Local Hour: Can We Learn How To Throw a Knife?

Summary

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Podcast Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Local Hour: Can We Learn How To Throw a Knife?
Date: September 25, 2025
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Billy Gil, Mike Ryan, Tony, Jeremy
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Overview

This "Local Hour" is classic Le Batard Show fare: a boisterous, free-flowing discussion of Miami and national sports, pop culture, and the self-aware absurdity at the heart of the show’s banter. Broadcasting from Downtown Miami, the gang riffs on the peculiarities of modern sports fandom, baseball’s changing landscape, the ever-disappointing (or surprisingly competitive) Marlins, Miami sports nostalgia, and, true to the episode’s title, a running gag about throwing knives. The tone is irreverent, fast-moving, with the kind of unwieldy, inside-joke-laden style that has become the show’s hallmark.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. COVID’s Impact on 'Nobility' & Sick Days

• Billy Gil laments a changed work culture where powering through illness is now frowned upon post-COVID, whereas before it showed heroic team spirit.
  • “COVID ruined nobility.” (01:11, Billy Gil)
• The group riffs on being judged for showing up sick and jokes about workplace norms upended by the pandemic.

2. A24, The Smashing Machine, & Movie Authenticity

• The team's admiration for the A24 studio and its films is tempered by Billy’s nitpick about continuity issues in "The Smashing Machine" due to The Rock’s ever-changing prosthetic makeup.
  • Billy: “Try to tell me that The Rock looks like the same person from one scene to the next.” (04:00)
  • Leads to a playful debate on whether they’d sit in makeup chairs for hours for a role—most say “only if the money or the awards are worth it.”
  • Memorable LeBron impersonation by Stugotz: “I want my damn respect." (05:05)

3. Baseball: Marlins Playoffs Math & Home Run Revolution

• Marlins Hopes:
  • Despite a crushing loss to the Phillies (11–1, 8 HRs hit by Phillies—a team record), the Marlins are technically still alive in playoff contention. Jeremy walks through complex tiebreaker permutations.
    • Jeremy (12:30): “Every single potential tiebreaker at 81 wins, the Marlins would win that tiebreaker because of their head-to-head record.”
  • Billy sharply summarizes: “You should just put ‘we’re screwed.’” (12:22)
  • Nostalgia for Game 163 “win-or-go-home” tiebreakers, which MLB has phased out.
• Home Run Boom:
  • Discussion around Cal Raleigh (“Big Dumper,” Mariners catcher) hitting 60, joining the pantheon with Ruth, Maris, Aaron Judge.
    • League average strikeouts are now so high that swinging for HRs is the norm.
    • Dan: “The game has changed so much that it’s legitimately disorienting.” (08:17)
  • Comparisons: Buster Posey’s best season (24 HR, 7.6 WAR) vs. current HR surge.

4. Baseball Deep Dives & Nostalgia

• Fun stat games: guessing division HR records by player and team, waxing nostalgic over Albert Belle’s legendary bad temper and eccentric in-game moments.
• Multiple segments include “put it on the poll” sports radio style debates:
  • Did Buster Posey “ruin baseball” by making collisions at home less frequent?
  • When did league home run records for divisions truly matter?
• Albert Belle Anecdotes:
  • Infamous stories: refusing a walk after being hit by a pitch, destroying a wall thermometer, chasing kids with his car after being egged (40:54).
  • Dan: “He was the only player other players feared. There’s no close second.” (39:28)
  • This segues into the titular knife-throwing discussion (43:15 and beyond).

5. The Knife-Throwing Tangent

• Inspired by Jose Lind allegedly hurling a hunting knife in a Pirates clubhouse, the hosts debate:
  • How hard is it to throw a knife and get it to stick in the wall?
  • Whether you throw a knife by the blade or the handle (44:02–44:52).
  • Tony: “You throw it by the blade!”
  • On throwing styles, rotations, and the proper “juice” for an effective throw—mock arguments abound, with everyone feigning confidence.

6. Miami Sports: Dolphins & Uniform Debates

• The upcoming Monday Night Football game (Dolphins vs. Jets):
  • The gang dissects the Dolphins’ “not-a-Dolphins” alternate uniforms, universally agreeing they look cool but are disconnected from tradition (32:27–33:29).
• Dolphins' defensive collapse is discussed; whether this defense is historically bad or just early-season bad, with deep concern about pass rush issues due to injuries.

7. Baseball Collapse & Standings

• Collapse of the Detroit Tigers:
  • “It’s the single worst collapse in baseball history. They were 15½ up in July.” (21:15)
  • Guardians heating up, taking over the division against all odds—stat breakdown and quick history.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Billy, on sick days and COVID: “COVID ruined nobility.” (01:11)
• Dan, on developments in baseball: “The game has changed so much that it’s legitimately disorienting to see the way they’re playing it now…” (08:17)
• Stugotz, imitating LeBron after a championship: “I want my damn respect.” (05:08)
• Jeremy, on Marlins scenarios: “Every single potential tiebreaker at 81 wins, the Marlins would win that tiebreaker because of their head-to-head record.” (13:43)
• Billy, on the playoff chances: “You should just put ‘we’re screwed.’” (12:22)
• Dan, on throwing knives: “Put it on the poll: In order to embed a hunting knife in the wall, do you throw it by the blade?” (43:44)
• Dan, on Albert Belle: “There was no close second on someone that was feared by everybody… it was just rage.” (42:06)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• COVID and Sick Days / Workplace Culture: 01:11–02:42
• A24 & The Smashing Machine debate: 03:00–05:05
• Phillies HR Record & Marlins Playoff Math: 06:38–14:36
• Complex Playoff Scenarios & Tiebreakers: 11:28–14:36
• Cal Raleigh Home Run Season / Buster Posey Comparisons: 21:43–24:22
• Old School Baseball/Division HR Leaders Game: 28:00–29:29
• Albert Belle Stories / Knife-Throwing Discussion: 39:11–44:52
• Dolphins Uniforms and Defense Woes: 32:27–36:47
• Tigers Collapse, Guardians Surge: 37:02–38:28

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Tone and Style

The episode features the show’s trademark blend of sarcasm, inside jokes, Miami in-jokes, and sports-nerd banter, peppered with moments of sweet nostalgia and performative outrage. There’s lots of crosstalk, comedic tangents, and play-by-play stat breakdowns designed to amuse and occasionally bewilder the listener (especially anyone unfamiliar with Miami’s sports or the hosts’ recurring bits). The group’s chemistry and love of the absurd shine through the knife-throwing debate and the impromptu quizzes.

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For Newcomers

If you haven’t listened:

• This episode is a prime example of the Dan Le Batard Show’s unique approach to sports talk: part sports insight, part pop culture commentary, all filtered through the camaraderie and comic timing of friends who love to interrupt each other and push the boundaries of what sports radio can be.
• You’ll get up-to-date South Florida sports analysis, plenty of baseball talk, playful nostalgia, and a heavy dose of comedic chaos.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Dan LeBatard]

Hey, got Willa.

[Stugotz]

He got my daughter.

[Dan LeBatard]

I need to find her. Willa. From acclaimed director Paul Thomas Anderson.

[Mike Ryan]

You can save that girl.

[Dan LeBatard]

On September 26, experience what is being called the best movie of the year. This is the end of the line. Not for you. Leonardo DiCaprio, Sean Penn, Benicio Del Toro, Teyana Taylor, Chase Infinity. Let's go. Here I am, one battle after another, only in theater. September 26, experience it in IMAX. Rated R under 17, animated without parrot. I want to start a totally new, fresh segment that has never been done anywhere in entertainment before, where Billy was right and where Billy was wrong. But before we do that, Billy came in today and the first words he said to me, it wasn't Good morning, it was COVID Ruined nobility. I don't have any other thoughts beyond that because you haven't expounded. You just. It's the first thing I heard from you and then you walked away.

[Billy Gil]

Well, I don't like the segment that you're pitching just on the front end. I don't like that situation whatsoever. No, I just. I'm. I'm sick. I don't know if you can hear. I'm a little bit sick. And there was like a time when you were sick and you didn't want to leave, let your team down or your co workers down or whatever. And you're like, I'm gonna power through. I'm gonna go into work. And now that's very Much frowned upon. Like, I would love to have stayed home today. But I was like, you know what? I'm not gonna miss two days in a row. I'm gonna go in and I'm just getting judgment left and right when I'm out there. I'm not doing anything. I'm not touching people's food. I'm not sneezing in their faces. I'm just existing.

[Dan LeBatard]

You don't feel like you're welcome? We missed you. I don't feel like I'm Wild Willie. Wednesday was missed.

[Billy Gil]

Yester actually had. Robert told me. Robert who does something here? Robert said, he's the head of our it.

[Dan LeBatard]

He doesn't do something engineering, not it. He keeps everything. He keeps everything up in the air.

[Billy Gil]

He tries. So anyways, Robert told me, go home. And I was like, oh, okay. Welcome, Robert. Thank you for welcoming me in.

[Dan LeBatard]

Do you want me to start with where Billy was right or where Billy was wrong?

[Billy Gil]

Neither, ideally. Why? Did you see the Smashing Machine? Are you going to talk to me about that movie?

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't see the Smashing machine, but.

[Billy Gil]

This a24 of yours is something else, man.

[Jeremy]

Let me.

[Billy Gil]

Let me tell you something. A24, everything they do is great. Watch the smashing machine.

[Dan LeBatard]

A24 has a better studio pub than any studio making things right now.

[Stugotz]

A24 is awesome. I love them.

[Billy Gil]

So did Bernie Madoff until the end, right? Everyone's like, oh, we got to trust this Bernie Madoff situation. Then all of a sudden, we couldn't trust him anymore. Look, this is all I'll say about the Smashing Machine, which is not what we were talking about. And I don't want to ruin the movie. I'm not going to give you any spoilers.

[Stugotz]

It's just like you standing out because everyone loves the Smashing Machine.

[Billy Gil]

No, I'm not trying to stand out, but I'm just saying if you watch scene to scene and I'm not someone that how I watch movies. Here's the score, here's the, you know, lighting, here's the writing, here's the. This, here's the that I'm not someone who would ever be like the makeup in this movie. But I will say this when you're watching it, and I don't want this to be like the situation where, like, we pointed out how much Stugot's fake laughed on stupidity and no one could watch it again after that because they're like, oh, all it is is fake laughing. But if you watch the Smashing Machine just go scene to scene and try to tell me that the Rock looks like the same person from one scene to the next. Because every time it seems like, okay, this is a different day of shooting because he just looks different with all of the prosthetics and stuff. Doesn't look like the same person.

[Stugotz]

I want to think about now when I see it like you. You may have just ruined it for me.

[Billy Gil]

I told you, don't let this ruin it for you.

[Stugotz]

That doesn't matter.

[Jeremy]

You don't.

[Stugotz]

It's on you that you don't get to say. Don't let something ruin it and then say the thing. And it's like, I have to remember all. But Billy told me not to let it ruin it for me. That's the way it works.

[Mike Ryan]

That's how you spot the reshoots. Do that with Marvel MOV movies, too. Wait, that's on its beard length.

[Dan LeBatard]

Do you guys think that if you were Colin Farrell or Dwayne the Rock Johnson that you would do anything that required you to be three or four hours a day in makeup?

[Tony]

How much am I getting paid?

[Dan LeBatard]

But they get paid that without being three or four hours a day in makeup.

[Tony]

Yeah, but they're paying me that, so I'm gonna do that.

[Mike Ryan]

Nah, not if it gets you hardware. Hardware takes you to a new salary structure.

[Billy Gil]

But the Rock's already, like, the highest grossing person. He always gets. Already gets paid the most. Like the. The hardware is just about love of the game.

[Jeremy]

You know what he wants?

[Billy Gil]

Respect.

[Mike Ryan]

That's right.

[Stugotz]

I want my respect.

[Dan LeBatard]

Who are you impersonating?

[Stugotz]

That's LeBron after he won his four time. I want my damn respect.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, it's not a great impersonation you're doing.

[Stugotz]

He doesn't deserve a good impersonation.

[Dan LeBatard]

What do you mean? He's still one of the top 10 players in the world. And he's 400 years old.

[Stugotz]

Wins a championship. I want my damn respect.

[Billy Gil]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the poll, please. Juju at lebatard show. Have you spent the last couple of weeks singing that Greg Cody football song? Because it's a bit of a banger. Jeremy is in the other room now changing all of his permutations from yesterday. As soon as we started talking about the Marlins playoff permutations. The Phillies hit eight home runs against the Marlins to win last night. It's the most the Phillies have ever hit in a game. Can you guys look up for me? Long the Phillies have been playing baseball because I think it's fairly amazing. That as soon as we started talking about the Marlins playoff possibilities, they lose 11 to 1. A Sosa not named Sammy hits three home runs. Schwaber of Core hits. Of course hits 250 home runs used to mean something. But now Seattle has a catcher. The big dumper who just hit 60. And he is. Let's see. Who do we have? Non steroid division. Who's ever hit 60 before because he's the seventh player ever to hit 60. But non steroid division, it's just Roger Maris and Babe Ruth.

[Mike Ryan]

Right? Aaron Judge.

[Dan LeBatard]

Aaron Judge has also hit 60. Didn't know that.

[Stugotz]

Are we sure about Maris?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Remember when we couldn't watch a Wake Forest football game without being reminded? Didn't. Not the same sort of fanfare for a catcher to do it. It was kind of weird.

[Dan LeBatard]

Or a non Yankee. It. The Seattle's a very likable team.

[Tony]

Phillies started playing baseball May 1, 1883.

[Dan LeBatard]

So, okay, so it's been 150 years that the. That the Phillies have been playing baseball and they've never hit eight home runs in a game until started talking about the Marlins playoff chances.

[Mike Ryan]

Let me be real and upfront with the audience. I'm in a Mariners group chat. Haven't watched a single game this year. I was all in last year. This year, Married with kid. You know, baseball kind of fell by the wayside this year. Hard to. Hard to track. It is absolutely insane to me that A catcher hits 60 home runs more so that it's a really good defensive catcher. Like he won a platinum Glove, which I just discovered is a thing. Which means it's not just you're the best at your position. It's better than a gold Glove. You're the best defensive player in your league.

[Stugotz]

Wait, Gold is better than platinum?

[Dan LeBatard]

No, platinum is better than gold.

[Mike Ryan]

Platinum is better than gold because it is the best defensive player, regardless of position. He won that last year. All right. This is a guy that two years ago told his GM and manager to make some moves at the trade deadline, and he was admonished for it. And two years later, he's helping win that team its first division title since 2001. As a sterling defensive catcher. As a catcher that hits a ridiculous 60 home runs, he hit two yesterday.

[Dan LeBatard]

We'll get back to that one.

[Mike Ryan]

Landed in the. In the third deck.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's crazy how good he is. And I am not ashamed to tell you that the sport has changed so much that I'm just wildly confused as to why it is there weren't a whole bunch of people hitting 60 home runs before this. Now that Aaron Judd can get into the 50s easily, he's got like three or four straight seasons of 50 home runs. The game has changed so much that it's legitimately disorienting to me to see the way they're playing it now where a fourth of the time players strike out, that's just league average. One out of every four players is striking out and they're all swinging for home runs. But Bill, you were sick yesterday and I want to get to where Billy was right and where Billy was wrong. But before I go to Jeremy out there to give us the new playoff permutations because the Marlins haven't been eliminated yet, I want get your thoughts on meaningful Marlins baseball the last week of the season. Were you hurting last night while you were watching? Certainly you've been interested in the seven game winning streak that preceded that, right?

[Billy Gil]

I mean, hurting. No, I. It was funny to see like September 24th or whatever that a bunch of Phillies fans were tweeting at me talking crap where it's like, guys like, you've won this division. If you're flexing on beating the Marlins the end of September, like, you're a loser. You have a loser mentality. You're not going to win the World Series. When you're tweeting at Billy Gill about the Phillies hitting eight home runs in a game, I'm surprised that they're still in it. Like, it's a great story that there's like four games left in the season and they're still not technically eliminated. I mean, I don't think that anybody know or thinks that they're going to make the playoffs. They have to jump too many teams, but it's still meaningful. And now you can see in the offseason like, hey, do you build upon this team or was this kind of like a fluky situation? It's a fun spot to be in where they're still competing. I can't decide whether I want to be mad at the organization for not spending more, being like, oh, look what this roster you had. If you would have spent a little more, you could be better. Or you could look at it as, look how good they're doing without spending. Like, the Mets are probably looking at the Marlins like, look how much money we're spending and we're a couple games ahead of these guys. Yeah, but you had a lot of guys kind of come out of nowhere that like Peter Bendix could have believed in by acquiring them as throw in pieces in a trade. But like you don't know that they're going to pan out the way that they've panned out. So it's a surprise team and you can kind of see how they build around it. Think I. I did like this. I did like that. Sandy was pushed to go start in the Mets series just to ruin the Mets season. Like, I love what days he's supposed to start. That's a good question.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's been on that. He's been better the last half of the season. But to your point, Chris, as to whether they should have spent or not, if they're Cy Young winner had simply been Cy Young, they'd be in the playoffs like the Mets are. They didn't need to go acquire a whole bunch of people. They just needed their Cy Young winner not to have an ERA of five and a half for the season. If he'd simply been mediocre all season, not even a Cy Young winner, they would not even a Cy Young winner. If their Cy Young winner had been mediocre this season, we'd be talking about them already being in the playoffs. But let's go out to Jeremy, who's had to recalculate all of this math. Now, Jeremy, keep us up to date on. I thought yesterday would be catastrophic. I thought losing 111 to the Phillies would eliminate them, but they are still somehow in it. Explain to me how that's so.

[Jeremy]

That's right, Dan. So the Marlins are still in it. Based off all these permutations, the. The thing that you need to know first and foremost is the Marlins are going to need to go 40 to make the postseason. The moment they lose a game, whether that's tonight against the Phillies or any game against the Mets, they will be eliminated. But in order to keep their playoff hopes alive, the only things that they need are a Mets loss.

[Stugotz]

The only one.

[Jeremy]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Just. Let's see, just hear me out. They need to win out. They need the Mets to lose tonight to the Chicago Cubs because of course the Marlins winning out would mean the Mets lose out from there. And they need Arizona and Cincinnati to not win two more games. They can each win one more of their next four in order for the Marlins to advance.

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[Dan LeBatard]

Cody, what are you laughing about?

[Jeremy]

So many words up there.

[Billy Gil]

Like, I like they're screwed. You should just put we're screwed.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, they're still in.

[Mike Ryan]

This is.

[Jeremy]

This is very much alive, guys. Arizona and very much alive.

[Dan LeBatard]

They're alive.

[Jeremy]

They're alive with four games to play.

[Stugotz]

But you would call it very much alive.

[Jeremy]

Here's why they're very much alive. Because look at all of the tiebreaker scenarios. The only team that the Marlins can end up in a two team tiebreaker with at this point would be The Mets at 81 wins. Okay, 81 and 81. I was saying 82 and 82 yesterday. I was speeding myself up. That's my mistake. But at 81 and 81 they would tie with the Mets. They would clinch the postseason berth because of their 85 head to head record with New York. Then look at every three team tiebreaker that's possible. They all include the Mets and thus that 8 and 5 record against the Mets. Should they sweep them this weekend, Marlins would clinch every single three team tiebreaker.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jeremy, hold on. You're telling me that the Marlins can actually knock the Mets out of the playoffs by simply sweeping them at the end of the season? The Mets? I thought the Mets were in.

[Mike Ryan]

No.

[Billy Gil]

If they win today though.

[Jeremy]

If the Mets win today. If the Mets win today, the only thing the Marlins can do is knock the Mets out because Arizona or Cincinnati could ultimately jump them. But if the Mets lose tonight and the Marlins sweep them, the Marlins would make the postseason over the Mets. That is factually correct. Because of nothing else has to happen.

[Billy Gil]

If the Mets lose tonight and we sweep the Mets, we're in the playoffs.

[Jeremy]

No, no, you need. Now it's worse all guys, this is not that complicated.

[Stugotz]

Arizona and Cincinnati cannot both win tonight.

[Billy Gil]

And if the Mariners do something, they.

[Jeremy]

Can, they can win tonight. They would just need to be swept over the weekend. You need Arizona or Cincinnati to end up at 81 games as well.

[Billy Gil]

Right.

[Jeremy]

They both have 80 wins right now. They have four games to play. You can't let them get to 82. It's that simple. But if they stay at 81 wins, they go one in three over their next four, which is entirely possible. These teams are all sitting right around 500. That's where you get into the tiebreaker scenarios. And as you look through it.

[Billy Gil]

All right, I think we're done with this.

[Dan LeBatard]

So he's Gonna go to 14 tiebreakers.

[Billy Gil]

We didn't get to the 16.

[Dan LeBatard]

What about the six team tie? Go ahead, Jeremy, go ahead. Keep going.

[Jeremy]

All it is is to say the six team tiebreaker. I didn't get to finish writing it. Ultimately that would go to the Marlins as well. They would have the best head to head record against the other five teams combined. And when you look at it, the three team tiebreakers Marlins would clinch all of them. The four team Tiebreakers. The Marlins would clinch every single one of them. Unless it was the Marlins, the Mets, the Diamondbacks and the Reds. Because of percentage points, the Reds would have a better percentage points record, 579 to 576 over the Marlins. Outside of that, every single potential tiebreaker at 81 wins. The Marlins would win that tiebreaker because of their head to head record against these teams.

[Billy Gil]

How would you win a five team tiebreaker including Cincinnati, but not a four team tiebreaker tiebreaker including Cincinnati?

[Jeremy]

Because ultimately the record against St. Louis and San Francisco. So the head to head record for the Marlins against those individual teams is stronger than the head to head record for the Reds against those individual teams.

[Billy Gil]

Wait, we do two team tiebreakers. We don't do the game 163 anymore.

[Jeremy]

We do not do the game 163.

[Billy Gil]

I don't like Jeremy.

[Jeremy]

Look at the screen.

[Billy Gil]

Look at the screen.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, I see the screen.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, leave Jeremy alone. That's a joke for the audience.

[Billy Gil]

Remember game 163 a couple years ago? Oh my God. It was like the most exciting baseball game of the season. More people probably watch that than the World Series. I don't know if that's true or not, but I remember right. It was the Rockies. Someone else and one of the bald rocky guys slides into home plate. He cuts his chin, his helmet comes off. I'll never forget. I don't remember the name of the team, but I'll never forget it.

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[Stugotz]

Don LeBatard that was a long story.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, it's the only kind he tells.

[Billy Gil]

It's a short one for me. I tried to speed it up for you guys.

[Mike Ryan]

You forgot about the league's cup Stugats.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

La Carreta is a place where the best of the celebrations has to be the 90s Marlin celebration because it was Levon.

[Billy Gil]

Well, when Fidel died the first time. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

There is something that was more watched than a World Series game a couple of nights ago. It's the Jimmy Kimmel Show. That is something that represents where Billy was Wrong. The number that the Jimmy Kimmel show, Jimmy Kimmel live did was over 6 million people tuning in live to late night television. That's a college football number. That's nuts. That is a. I, that. That is crazy to have that in the middle of the night.

[Mike Ryan]

Miami, Florida did six and a half million viewers.

[Billy Gil]

Maybe more interested in Glen Powell.

[Dan LeBatard]

And Billy, you'll be happy to know that you were right and I was wrong. Those arches out there that they're spending $850 million on are indeed the thing that is going to be holding up the bridge of the future.

[Stugotz]

Really?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. It's not the actual bridge.

[Billy Gil]

It's a suspension bridge.

[Dan LeBatard]

But it's going to be. It is what he was saying. It's going to be like the golden gate bridge where they're building the arch and the arches is where the bridge will hang from. You will not drive obviously on the arches, but that's what's going to hold up the bridge that they're building out there that has made downtown such a zoo.

[Stugotz]

Driving on the arch would be intense.

[Mike Ryan]

Was anyone asking that question?

[Billy Gil]

I don't think anyone thought they were gonna drive on that arch.

[Mike Ryan]

Wait, did you think that? Did Dan think this?

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't think it was a bridge. I just thought it was an arch. I thought it was only meant to be something that made our skyline beautiful. I didn't think they were attaching a bridge to it.

[Billy Gil]

Like a bike path in there maybe.

[Dan LeBatard]

I thought it was just an ornamen. That'd be a great bike. I don't know about great danger.

[Mike Ryan]

The way up is gonna be hell.

[Billy Gil]

It looks hollow on the inside. Right? Like you think if, like you walk across that little bridge there that's holding the two pieces together. You think if you walk across it, you slide down that side. I want Tony's next week's top five from there. Right there. Standing from where? Like bridge. Like the scaffold that's holding both together between the two of them. That's where I want you.

[Dan LeBatard]

A little dangerous suspension thing.

[Tony]

Bail me out.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jeremy will be doing pitch clock today later in the show in post game. The base playoffs are about to start. It's an exciting time. I do love this time of year. I can't believe what's happening with the Detroit Tigers. It's the single worst collapse in baseball history. They were 15 and a half up in the middle of July. And it's just not something that you ever see. But I want to talk about the home runs last night and I want to talk About Cal Rally.

[Mike Ryan]

Like the Maris family better be there and we better get cut ins. He can pass, Judge. There's four games left. He can do this. Hell, he can catch Bonds. I wouldn't put it past him because nothing gets past Big Dumper.

[Stugotz]

What's he got to do to pass bonds?

[Mike Ryan]

13 more, I think.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, to tie in four games. Are they still playing in Colorado? Do they have the four games in Colorado? He hit two last night in Colorado.

[Mike Ryan]

Big Dumper, my boy. He's got pop. Which leads me to a traditional sports radio topic. Who's the greatest FSU catcher of all time?

[Dan LeBatard]

Whoa. He is like two options, right?

[Mike Ryan]

I mean. No, no, you got three. You got Maurer, you got Buster Posey, Mauer, and you got the Big Dumper. So we take them all at the peak of their powers. And again, Buster Posey, brilliant player. Tremendous defensive player as well. Dumper. Platinum glove there, Zaslow. So I would say, who was the.

[Stugotz]

Marlin that almost ended Buster Posey's career?

[Billy Gil]

Scott Cousins.

[Mike Ryan]

Scott Cousins, that's right.

[Billy Gil]

They got that stupid Buster Posey ruined baseball.

[Mike Ryan]

So you take this Cal Raleigh season and you make that the algomation of Cal Raleigh at the peak of his powers, and that's a 7.2 war. Buster Posey's best war was 7.6, which is. It just boggles the mind. Like, how could Buster Posey have had a better season?

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, he had an MVP season. They won the World Series when he was an MVP.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, but Cal's having an MVP season and he's hitting 60 dingers.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, put it on the poll, please. Did stupid Buster Posey ruin baseball?

[Billy Gil]

That used to be my computer, like backdrop. Scott Cousins trucking. Buster Posey. You know, when you used to be able to put an image, I guess you still can.

[Stugotz]

I think you still can.

[Billy Gil]

On your laptop. Yeah, but does any. No one does that anymore, right?

[Stugotz]

On their laptop.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, sure.

[Stugotz]

Why not?

[Mike Ryan]

Do you?

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, yeah. What's your background?

[Stugotz]

My show. Logo. Zazzle Show 2.0.

[Dan LeBatard]

Billy, I don't think you said Buster Posey might be better than Big Dumper, and he was the MVP of a championship season. But did Buster Posey ever hit even 30 home runs in a season? Did he ever hit 25 home run. Did Buster Posey ever hit 25 home runs in a season so that you guys can sort of absorb how much baseball has changed? Did the MVP of a World Series champion, Buster Posey, ever hit 30 home runs in a season?

[Billy Gil]

No. His Career High was 24 that season, probably. Yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

And so when it comes to individual measurements, Mike, I think OPS and OPS plus is where you go. Is Big Dumper having a better OPS and OPS plus season than Buster Posey did the greatest season of his life when he won the MVP and they won the championship.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm not here to be deposed. That's for somebody else else to figure out. But I think Jeremy does have an update on my traditional sports radio topic. We kick it out to Jeremy.

[Jeremy]

Well, ultimately, look, the. The peak of Cal rally and doing this as a catcher behind the plate. The craziest part about getting to potentially 60 home runs is just the wear and tear that comes with it. Because to be able to produce that type of power. On the flip side, Buster Posey showing up every day and hitting about.330, as he was such a tremendous defensive catcher in the middle of an order that didn't have quite as much protection. The peak of their powers. It's really hard to argue one way or another, but. But I do want to get back to something that Chris was questioning because all that needs to happen is that.

[Mike Ryan]

The Diamondbacks and the Brother, you're doing this wrong. Just best FSU catcher of all time.

[Jeremy]

It's not Joe Maurer. He didn't go there.

[Billy Gil]

He committed there, but then got drafted.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, he was finishing third anyways. Let's be real.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Kimmel monologue not only did more than 6 million people in the middle of the night, it also did more than 20 million people on YouTube. So three times as many people on YouTube watched as we're watching.

[Billy Gil]

Couple people watched it twice, probably. But then there are also the people that watched it in groups. Chris. That's true.

[Mike Ryan]

Some of us didn't watch it at all.

[Tony]

Amen.

[Billy Gil]

When did we start, like, tracking the AL home run record? That's annoying, right?

[Mike Ryan]

When it was Aaron Judge.

[Billy Gil]

But it's so annoying to be like, oh, Cal Raleigh's about to catch Aaron Judge for the AL homer. It's like, dude, what does that mean? What's the NL east record? I know it doesn't matter that we're playing interleague play season round now that like, the AL records and the NL records are completely irrelevant. No one's like, I'm an American League baseball fan anymore. That's not a thing.

[Mike Ryan]

It stopped being a thing when the umpires started wearing just MLB hats.

[Stugotz]

That's right.

[Billy Gil]

That's right.

[Mike Ryan]

Just call me AL Hat.

[Billy Gil]

Remember Al?

[Mike Ryan]

That's right.

[Billy Gil]

Angels in the outfield.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm so happy. The greatest thing that Big Dumper did with this season is just rip away the facade of that whole Aaron Judge bullshit that we had to deal with a couple seasons ago.

[Dan LeBatard]

You guys were so mad that it.

[Mike Ryan]

Was BS and it was just because it was a Yankee. We all know now the emperor has no clothes. Dan.

[Billy Gil]

So in 2012, Buster Posey's OPS was 957. Right now, Cal's is 959. His OPS+ is 172. Buster Posey's OPS+ was 171. And I think we all know what that means.

[Dan LeBatard]

They're close to very comparable players in terms of what it is that they.

[Mike Ryan]

Do, which is wild because one of them is hitting 60 home runs.

[Tony]

Dan, we're getting to the part where the baseball playoffs matter, right? And what I want to do is I'm locked in now. Yeah, we're right here. We're at the doorstep of the baseball playoffs and I need to know.

[Billy Gil]

I got.

[Tony]

I need to get an update from the baseball guys to see kind of where we are. So I know what to do going into the season. So going into the postseason. So right now I have written down Mariners. Good, good catcher.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah.

[Tony]

Tigers collapsed. What else do I need to know?

[Stugotz]

They still got a few days left. They may not fully.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, they haven't. They've already collapsed. That's now they might.

[Stugotz]

Is it still collapsed? If they still win the division, they might un.

[Dan LeBatard]

Collapse. But as we speak of this, they've already collapsed.

[Stugotz]

The old collapse into an un Collapse.

[Billy Gil]

I don't think you could collapse.

[Dan LeBatard]

You don't think that they can now win the division and therefore not have collapsed as historically as I imagine that this collapse is going to be like.

[Billy Gil]

Greg collapsed at high alai. And then when he came back, we didn't say, well, good. Good news, Greg. Un. Collapsed. Maybe we should have collapsed. Maybe.

[Mike Ryan]

Dan, do you remember Terry Kennedy? A 1980s catcher, four time All Star, played in four different World Series with three different teams. He was an FSU catcher.

[Billy Gil]

Believe it or not, Giancarlo Stanton holds the record for single season nleast home runs.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, just NL East.

[Billy Gil]

Now you're doing, I believe, 59.

[Mike Ryan]

I believe it.

[Jeremy]

It's a lot.

[Dan LeBatard]

I remember that vividly, but you mean.

[Billy Gil]

I'm gonna go through every division?

[Dan LeBatard]

You're just gonna do it by division. Who holds the. So the division.

[Mike Ryan]

Can we guess?

[Dan LeBatard]

Lead in home run.

[Billy Gil]

I like NL Central. Who you got?

[Mike Ryan]

I got Mark McGuire. Famously right.

[Billy Gil]

You nailed it.

[Mike Ryan]

I got second place. It's probably either McGuire or Sosa.

[Billy Gil]

All right. NL West. Damn it. Bond. All right. Keep playing, though. Al West, Cal, Raleigh. Yeah. All right. We're having fun here.

[Mike Ryan]

AL Central, AL Central. Now this one's tricky. AL Central.

[Jeremy]

Thomas is a great guess.

[Stugotz]

Paul Korko.

[Mike Ryan]

Jim Toy is a terrible guess.

[Stugotz]

That's a good guess.

[Billy Gil]

That's a terrible guess. Who Jimmy Fox play for?

[Dan LeBatard]

Jimmy Fox? Detroit. Wasn't he then?

[Billy Gil]

There you go. That's him. But they may not have been in the Central then.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think they were in the. There wasn't Central back then.

[Billy Gil]

Who Hank Greenberg play for?

[Dan LeBatard]

There was. There was Hammer. There was. There was not a Central back then.

[Mike Ryan]

Fun game.

[Jeremy]

Jimmy Fox played for Philadelphia, Boston and Chicago Cubs. So we didn't get any of that right.

[Billy Gil]

What about Hank Greenberg?

[Mike Ryan]

The Hammer? Phillies are good.

[Jeremy]

Hammer.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's a good nickname.

[Billy Gil]

He played for Detroit. There you go. We got our AL Central year. Did he play all his whole career? What years were they? The 30s. Then there was no Central, then. Whatever, man.

[Dan LeBatard]

When did they start the Central? When did that start? Because there were two divisions deep into the. Deep into the 90s. I think that before they made it three, they made it three divisions in each league.

[Mike Ryan]

Can you think right, Chris? Can you sort by career and not individual seasons?

[Jeremy]

Because they're playing in 94.

[Mike Ryan]

Because they're. Players like Maglio Ordonez have played for multiple teams inside of the AL Central. This is where it gets fun, folks.

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[Billy Gil]

There.

[Dan LeBatard]

Don LeBatard while there's nothing official and conversations are still ongoing.

[Billy Gil]

Was that a fake chef dirt? Because it was pretty good. It was excellent. I feel like there's legs.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, I tried at the beginning and then I lost confidence in it.

[Billy Gil]

You got this. Nothing official. Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

So good conversations are still ongoing. St it is trending towards Nick Sirianni remaining the head coach of the Eagles.

[Billy Gil]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the st.

[Dan LeBatard]

I want to talk about very briefly the uniforms that the Dolphins are going to be wearing on Monday night. Monday night is a apocalypse. The Dolphins and the jets are playing Monday Night Football and these uniforms are really good looking uniforms. They're just not in any way Dolphin uniform.

[Stugotz]

It's. It's horrible. I'm embarrassed.

[Billy Gil]

I can't believe how negative this office has been on these uniforms. I thought it was going to be a consensus. These look cool and everybody around here hates these.

[Stugotz]

They may look cool, but they're not the Dolphins. Like that's not the Dolphins color, that's not their uniform. But on top of it, you know what aggravates me and maybe some other fans too, is there is a consensus out there of, I would guess to say 100% of the fan base would like them to wear a specific uniform and they refuse to go back to it. Old school one and you of course. And they're breaking this out like, that's not the Dolphins. Who is this team I'm going to be watching on Monday nights.

[Dan LeBatard]

I cannot blame the Dolphins for wanting to wear a disguise when the world is watching for so that no one knows who they are. Because this 03 football team. Are you guys in agreement when I keep saying that this is a historically bad defense or were you fooled by the second half against the Bills?

[Mike Ryan]

I think it's too early to tell.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Early in the season, how much worse would you have liked them to be than not be able to stop any of the drives of the Colts and the Patriots?

[Stugotz]

I think the part that's so surprising with this defense. I think one thing most of us would have agreed upon going into the season was they're going to be able to rush the passer they got. Some guys are going to be able to get after the quarterback, and maybe that'll be the one. Saving grace to having a terrible secondary is all right. If you put pressure on the quarterback, you know that that'll be okay. Then not only do they not get after the the quarterback, but they blitz like the most of any team in the league through the first three weeks and they still don't get to the quarterback.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, explain to me why. Okay. You guys are surprised by a lack of pressure when I say the following. Because Chubb's getting to the quarterback. But Phillips, you would understand why it is that his body is not right and he might not be the same player he was. And Christian Wil Wilkins was kind of important to them and he was important to Sealer. Like what they had coming up the middle when they were getting pressure and on the edges. We can agree that Wilkins was a very good player for them. Wilkins is missed in a lot of ways. So you're surprised when I tell you Phillips's body is broken.

[Mike Ryan]

Were you not, excuse me. Encouraged by his performance against Buffalo, though? Because I think prior to he looked like, man, have all the injuries. Keep in mind Jalen Phillips is a player that almost medically retired before he transferred to Miami. His body has taken a lot of.

[Dan LeBatard]

The University of Miami, not the Dolphins.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, yeah. And I thought he was. I thought it was an encouraging performance against Buffalo. He's starting to get home a little bit more. And that's the type of injury that, I mean, we've seen over time. You kind of need some time to bounce back.

[Dan LeBatard]

Wilkins is missed.

[Billy Gil]

He's out there.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Billy Gil]

I mean, he was released. They could go get him if they wanted. He's recovering from injury. He's available. Bowl.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think that this is going to be a historically bad defense. I think they're going to have trouble stopping everybody all season.

[Billy Gil]

Well, let them mesh. I mean, we'll see on Monday Night Football against the jets, and then they have the Panthers, so he could be fooled about how good they are or not. Then we'll get a test. You know, when they take on the Chargers, the Browns, and then the Falcons. That's the test. The Charger games, we'll see. No, with the Falcons, I wonder who's going to be quarterback at that point in time. Right. Then after that, we have Bills commander, Ravens, Bills commander. That's a difficult stretch. By the time the Saints come to town November 30th, mark your calendars, we're going to know who this defense is.

[Tony]

Can you have two historically bad defenses in a span of six years? Because wasn't Dominique saying that it was criminal what they were doing like six years ago? So now you have an unethical. Not unethical, my bad.

[Billy Gil]

Yes, it is possible.

[Tony]

Now another six years later, you have another historically bad.

[Billy Gil]

That's like when they say someone's a generational talent and there's eight of those playing every year at the same generation, which makes no sense to me.

[Mike Ryan]

I think to be a historically bad defense, you need to be the worst defense in the league, which they are not. They are 26 in the league right now. If you wanted to say the Ravens have a historically bad defense, you would presently be right.

[Billy Gil]

I don't think you can ever say the Ravens have a historically bad defense.

[Mike Ryan]

Teams with a worse defense than the Miami Dolphins, according according to yards per game. Ravens, Giants, Cowboys, Bears, Steelers, Titans.

[Billy Gil]

Don't pay attention to stats. You could just never say the Ravens have a bad defense.

[Dan LeBatard]

Give the Dolphins time. They'll catch up. Let me just go back since we were talking baseball. And again, pitch clock will be later in the show as we continue to segregate baseball. But this is an exciting time of year for me. I really do enjoy baseball. But when you talk about what's happening with the Tigers, look at this when I give you these stats. The tigers have lost eight in a row, 11 of 12 and 20 of 27. While the guardians have won 17 of 19. So that's. That's how that.

[Tony]

Guardians good. Do I write that down?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, the Guardians good. Guardians also hot. Hot at the right time.

[Billy Gil]

Hot.

[Tony]

Guardians hot at the right time.

[Billy Gil]

Okay, Jim Tomey, 52 home runs, 2002.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, that's the leader since 1994, since the AL Central was officially established. But you want to talk about the Garden Guardians and this collapse by the tigers. So on August 25th, Fangraphs had the Guardians as a 0.0 chance to win the AL Central. On September 10th. It's only the 25th. On September 10th, they had a 0.1% chance to win the AL Central. Now they are in sole possession of first place and own the tiebreaker over.

[Mike Ryan]

The Tigers, who are the Guardians.

[Billy Gil]

Also, Paul Canerico's career high was 41 in a season.

[Stugotz]

That's good.

[Billy Gil]

Frank Thomas, 43. So it's a big difference.

[Stugotz]

You can't come at me and say it's a terrible guess when he was 2 behind the big hurts 43. That's not terrible. That's actually really good.

[Jeremy]

Jim Thomi, Albert Bell, Jim Tomey, Albert Bell, and then Salvador Perez.

[Dan LeBatard]

Albert Bell. Every time. Every time you say Albert Bell, it brings a smile to my face. Even though Albert Bell was a total menace as a human being who scared everybody around him. See if you guys can find on YouTube for me, Albert Bell being hit by a pitch and just refusing to go to first base, saying, no, I want. I want to hit. I don't. I don't. I don't want first base. I want all. I want all the bases. No, you're not allowed. You're not allowed to do that. But he also. Somebody was mad at him because he was keeping the clubhouse too cold and. And he just destroyed the thermometer with his bat. Or he just. That was on the wall.

[Jeremy]

He had three homers in the game already, which is why he didn't want to go to first. He was looking to hit a fourth home run that day. And so when he was hit by a pitch, he said, nah, I'm good.

[Stugotz]

The first thing you think about with Albert Bell is when he, through the forearm shiver at the second baseman, trying to attempt to double play. Right.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's the only player in baseball. Like, there's been some sizable guys, you know, you don't want to fight Mo Vaughn if he was coming out to the mound to fight with you. But he's the only guy in my career as a baseball player that I knew that everyone else was just afraid of him. They were afraid that he was going to beat them up. He also had a temper problem. Like, he had a bunch of incidents, including, like, didn't he chase some kids with his car on Halloween? Like he had a temper problem. Yes, like.

[Mike Ryan]

Like, jeepers creepers.

[Stugotz]

What do you think those kids were dressed as?

[Dan LeBatard]

Pretty. I'm pretty sure that he has a long litany of things on the resume that suggest that, yeah, temper needed to get it under control. Had some issues with that. But I just don't think of baseball players as being so menacing that you're afraid of them. Even Aaron Judge. You look at Aaron Judge.

[Stugotz]

Oh, he seems nice. Aaron Judge.

[Dan LeBatard]

Can you give me some information about Aaron Judge being about where it is that Aaron Judge was drafted? Because general players that size, their strike zone is too big for them to be hitting 50 home runs all the time. Because no matter how long their levers are, that size of a strike zone is too big of a strike zone for somebody to be as good as Aaron Judge is. Where was he drafted, Jeremy?

[Jeremy]

He was drafted 32nd overall. So he was a first round pick. But there were 31 players who went ahead of him, ironically that year. Number one overall, Bryce Harper. Number three, Manny Machado. So heck, the of a draft.

[Billy Gil]

On Halloween in 1995, a bunch of teenagers decided to egg Albert Bell's house. So he decided, I'm going to chase them down with my car. Bell was fined $100 for reckless operation of a vehicle. The guardian of the teenager later sued Albert Bell for $850,000, contending that Bell's car had bumped into the teenager. The lawsuit was settled in 1997.

[Jeremy]

I was wrong about that draft. He was drafted in the 31st round of out of high school, out of high school in 2010. Then he was drafted 32nd overall in 2013. That draft was led by Mark Appel and then Chris Bryant.

[Mike Ryan]

You didn't need to correct yourself. That was. You were right.

[Dan LeBatard]

Billy, would you do me the favor please of just looking through all Albert Bell incidents? Because I think.

[Billy Gil]

I think not as fun to continue.

[Dan LeBatard]

Really.

[Mike Ryan]

You're not going to like where this goes.

[Billy Gil]

2006, he was sentenced to 90 days in jails and five years probation after he admitted to stalking his former girlfriend. 2018, he was arrested or charged with indecent exposure and driving under the influence. Charges were dismissed.

[Jeremy]

Marlins took Colin Moran 6th overall the year Aaron Judge.

[Dan LeBatard]

I want the incidents while he was playing baseball.

[Billy Gil]

I thought you meant the legal trouble.

[Dan LeBatard]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

Sounds like a nice guy.

[Dan LeBatard]

Otherwise that's not. No. I wanted misunderstood maybe from his playing career. I pretty much understood just where he was coming from at all times. And it was just rage.

[Billy Gil]

So under the personal problem section because that starts with alcoholism. That's not good either.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I'm just looking for stuff during the playing career. Just stories that were told. I've told you guys before the story like baseball clubhouses are funny, right? The Pirates had a second baseman, Jose Lind, who one time, for reasons that I didn't have any understanding for, I'm just standing there and he throws a hunting knife across the room and embeds it in the wall. And I'm like, why would someone do that? That doesn't seem sane or reasonable in any way. And the one who was feared by all other players. Players was only Albert Bell. There was no. There was. There's no close second on. On someone that was feared by everybody long before. Like, if that player played today, we would have him go get treatment because all of us would understand that's. That what's happening there is not sane. But he could hit a baseball very hard and very far and would hit three home runs in a game and then get hit by a pitch and say, I don't want to.

[Billy Gil]

How many throws would it take you to throw a knife at a wall.

[Stugotz]

And get it to stick?

[Tony]

Hunting knife. Those are sharp.

[Billy Gil]

You're doing it first try. You're doing it first try, Tony.

[Tony]

Yeah, I'm doing it first try.

[Dan LeBatard]

Of course, Chris, you feel like you're going to. The handle's going to just hit the wall. And I'm just like, you got to throw a blade.

[Tony]

You don't throw it up by the handle. You throw it by the blade. By the blade?

[Billy Gil]

No, that can't be.

[Tony]

That's how you do it. You throw it by the blade first. So it has the rotation.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, but when you throw an axe, you don't hold the ax. Right.

[Jeremy]

Like, what are you talking about?

[Tony]

It's different, though.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think he might be right there.

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[Billy Gil]

Yeah, sure.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think. Put it on the poll at Le Batard show. In order to em a hunting knife in the wall, do you throw it by the blade?

[Billy Gil]

Well, hold on a second, though. Explain that to me.

[Mike Ryan]

The ax is different.

[Tony]

The axis, but exactly the handle. There's more surface area.

[Billy Gil]

Okay.

[Tony]

There's more surface area on the blade of a knife than there is an axe.

[Billy Gil]

Okay. Where are you getting this knowledge from?

[Mike Ryan]

I don't.

[Billy Gil]

It depends the size of the knife.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right.

[Billy Gil]

Because. What if he says. Because he says it was confident. This is a.

[Mike Ryan]

This you have to do it in a hurry situation. That's very.

[Billy Gil]

The rotations matter. What if I throw from 3 inches further back? Then that would be like half a rotation. And then the blade.

[Tony]

You can fix that by throwing it faster.

[Stugotz]

Well, and this is very important, do you throw the blade overhand or is like you take on you underhand.

[Mike Ryan]

I can do it. I can do that.

[Tony]

You don't have the Same juice. Underhand. You got to go over.

[Billy Gil]

That's how you get with juice.

[Mike Ryan]

I'll decide how much juice I have.

[Billy Gil]

Underhand.

[Tony]

Yeah, Underhand's no.

[Billy Gil]

You can do underhand.

[Stugotz]

You'll know about that, Daniel.

[Mike Ryan]

Weakness. Kind of like Gambit.

[Stugotz]

That's how you get them.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Tony]

Oh, yours is sideways.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, like Gambit.

[Billy Gil]

You put your arm up. I don't see what you're doing. No one throws a knife like a Frisbee.

[Mike Ryan]

Not like a Frisbee. Like Gambit throws Frisbee.

[Billy Gil]

What are you throwing?

[Stugotz]

A boomerang? You're not getting anyone.

[Mike Ryan]

I can also.

[Dan LeBatard]

I can.

[Billy Gil]

That's what I'm saying. Like Zaz knows.

[Mike Ryan]

Like Alex Gonzalez.

[Stugotz]

I've already stabbed you in the heart.

[Billy Gil]

Like Alex Gonzalez. Turning to. Well, if you throw it. Did you stab him?

[Stugotz]

I got lots of blades in my pocket.

[Dan LeBatard]

You guys are not noticing. Everyone's talking and no one's noticing that Zaz is providing a sound effect with his underhand blade throw. That kills you while you're talking, you're giving opinions, and he's going left handed. You're not expecting it in any way.

[Stugotz]

Animal righty.

[Dan LeBatard]

Everyone else is coming at you overhanded. They're telegraphing what they're doing.

[Billy Gil]

He's doing a sneaky style, but he keeps missing us. That's the problem.

[Mike Ryan]

Are we doing this in a competition or are we doing this like. Oh, it's real life. You need to throw something in the street. You're not going blazing first. Too dangerous. If you have to do something quickly like that, you'll cut your hand.

[Dan LeBatard]

Not if you're an accomplished hunting knife thrower like Tony.

[Tony]

Plus, what you do is on the street, you grab it and then you toss it up and then catch it on the plate.

[Billy Gil]

Wait, you're putting on his show, right?

[Mike Ryan]

That part we agree with.

[Billy Gil]

Right?

[Mike Ryan]

So you have to.

[Billy Gil]

You have it in your thing.

[Dan LeBatard]

What?

[Mike Ryan]

That. That the swoof is important.

[Dan LeBatard]

You guys are all coming in. Zach, though, you're telegraphing what you're doing. You got your arms out. You got your blades out.

[Stugotz]

So many blades. I threw you.

[Billy Gil]

You do it too quick, though, I imagine, like, it's rock is too quick, and boom, you threw your keys at.

[Stugotz]

Me too quick for you to notice it's coming.

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