Local Hour: Chapel Bill

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Local Hour: Chapel Bill
Release Date: April 15, 2025

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1. The Hat Mishap and Dan’s Transformation

The episode kicks off with Dan Le Batard and Stugotz discussing Dan's recent body transformation. Stugotz humorously points out the change, leading to a light-hearted conversation about Dan's new hat.

Notable Quotes:

• Stugotz [02:27]: "This hat is actually you."
• Dan Le Batard [02:58]: "I mean, I was micro dosing on mushrooms. I was doing the things you do at Dead and Company at the Sphere in Las Vegas."

The trio delves into the challenges of maintaining their hat collection, sharing anecdotes about stained hats and the lengths they've gone to preserve them. Juju offers practical advice on cleaning hats, while Greg humorously remarks on his wife's disapproval of his extensive hat collection.

Notable Quotes:

• Greg Cody [05:49]: "I conservative estimate I might have like 300 hats."
• Stugotz [04:20]: "Washing machine tends to mess up the hats."

2. WNBA Draft and Bill Belichick’s Controversial Article

Transitioning from light banter, the hosts shift focus to recent sports news, particularly an explosive article by The Athletic about NFL coach Bill Belichick and his girlfriend, Jordan Hudson.

Chris Cody breaks down the article, revealing that Hudson holds the title of Chief Operating Officer at Belichick Productions. The article scrutinizes their relationship dynamics and suggests that Hudson plays a significant role in managing Belichick's public image.

Notable Quotes:

• Chris Cody [16:20]: "Chapel Bill is good."
• Dan Le Batard [24:20]: "Belichick has done nothing since Brady left."

The discussion highlights concerns over open records requests and their implications for private relationships and professional boundaries within sports organizations.

3. Katy Perry’s Space Adventure: A Publicity Stunt?

A heated debate erupts over Katy Perry’s recent trip to space. Jessica expresses her frustration, arguing that the endeavor appears to be a waste of resources and an overt marketing ploy rather than a genuine pursuit.

Notable Quotes:

• Juju [07:32]: "They were like, it's an all-female space crew. Oh, my God. Feminism."
• Stugotz [09:24]: "It feels like an overt marketing ploy."

The hosts compare Perry's mission to historical space journeys, questioning the authenticity and motivations behind celebrity-led space ventures. They also touch upon the emotional impact of such stunts, referencing William Shatner's introspective remarks during his space flight.

Notable Quotes:

• Chris Cody [12:22]: "What do you think you're interested?"
• Juju [09:26]: "It felt like a transparent marketing ploy."

4. The Weight of Pressure in Sports: Golf vs. Team Sports

Delving deeper into the psychological aspects of sports, the conversation shifts to the immense pressure athletes face, particularly in individual versus team sports. Dan praises Rory McIlroy’s performance at The Masters, acknowledging both his talent and the mental fortitude required to succeed.

Notable Quotes:

• Dan Le Batard [36:13]: "It's such an amazing tournament, and it's why I love it so much."
• Chris Cody [40:14]: "It can't be fun to anybody to be the source of viral shame."

The hosts explore how sports like golf uniquely isolate athletes, making moments of high pressure even more intense compared to the shared pressures in team environments like basketball or football.

5. Rory McIlroy’s Triumph and Career Reflections

The episode highlights Rory McIlroy’s recent victory at The Masters, juxtaposing it with his past performances labeled as "career choker." Dan expresses mixed feelings, appreciating McIlroy’s skill but questioning his consistency.

Notable Quotes:

• Dan Le Batard [37:26]: "He might be the greatest ball striker we've ever seen."
• Chris Cody [38:33]: "He's 40, right?"

The discussion extends to the broader implications of mental strength in sports, emphasizing how pivotal moments can redefine an athlete's legacy.

6. Chris Paul: Longevity and Performance in the NBA

Shifting gears to basketball, the hosts critique Chris Paul’s longevity in the NBA. While acknowledging his impressive statistics, they debate his lack of championship rings and overall impact compared to other legendary point guards.

Notable Quotes:

• Dan Le Batard [44:53]: "Chris Paul, 40 years old, 82 games."
• Stugotz [44:40]: "Probably not. But at least like that's the one possibility to move him off of his, his Chris Paul hate."

The conversation touches on Paul's dedication, physical resilience, and the challenges of maintaining peak performance without the ultimate team success.

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Conclusion

Throughout the episode, Dan Le Batard and Stugotz offer their candid perspectives on a blend of personal stories and high-profile sports news. From navigating the quirks of hat maintenance to dissecting the complexities of athlete relationships and career pressures, the hosts provide insightful and entertaining commentary that resonates with both avid sports fans and casual listeners.

Key Takeaways:

• Personal Anecdotes: Sharing personal experiences adds relatability and humor.
• Critical Analysis: Thoughtful examination of sports news highlights deeper underlying issues.
• Engaging Banter: Dynamic interactions between hosts keep the conversation lively and engaging.

This episode serves as a testament to the show's ability to blend light-hearted discussions with substantive sports analysis, making it a must-listen for fans eager to hear diverse perspectives on the latest happenings in the sports and entertainment world.

Transcript

[Mike Ryan]

Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan.

[Stugotz]

And if you're watching our show, you probably know and your boy has undergone a little bit of a body transformation.

[Mike Ryan]

And I gotta tell you, Peloton has helped me on my fitness journey. It got the ball rolling for me because I watch my wife on the peloton.

[Stugotz]

She takes all these great classes.

[Mike Ryan]

She has her favorite instructors. I listen to the music, I'm a big music guy.

[Stugotz]

Gets me fired up.

[Mike Ryan]

Makes me want to take part in this fitness phenomenon known as Peloton. Peloton offers a variety of challenging classes, from four week strength building classes to running, cycling, and everything in between. Peloton will help you achieve your goals and maybe you'll have some fun along the way. I know I have. It's backed by thousands of members whose lives have been changed.

[Stugotz]

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[Mike Ryan]

Telling you I'm better for it. Have it in my office. Sometimes I can put on the baseball game. Sometimes I can put on a soccer match. Some other times I'm totally locked in on an emo playlist. Find your push, find your power. With [e-mail].

[Stugotz]

Now's a good time to remember where tequila's story truly began.

[Mike Ryan]

In 1795, Cuervo invented tequila.

[Stugotz]

Cuervo, what are you doing here?

[Chris Cody]

Cuervo. Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.

[Stugotz]

Well, I do know that to be true. But even during ad reads like Cuervo.

[Mike Ryan]

I think he could lay out, especially.

[Stugotz]

For one of our great partners.

[Chris Cody]

Sweet, delicious Cuervo.

[Stugotz]

Since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots.

[Mike Ryan]

The same family, the same land, the same passion.

[Chris Cody]

Cuervo.

[Mike Ryan]

So enjoy the tequila that started it all.

[Stugotz]

Cuervo.

[Chris Cody]

Cuervo.

[Mike Ryan]

The tequila that invented tequila.

[Stugotz]

Proximo.

[Mike Ryan]

Cuervo.com, please drink responsibly.

[Dan LeBatard]

Cuervo.

[Chris Cody]

Shadow Show.

[Dan LeBatard]

Shadow Show.

[Chris Cody]

Shadow Show.

[Dan LeBatard]

Shadow Show.

[Chris Cody]

Shadow Show.

[Dan LeBatard]

Shadow Show.

[Chris Cody]

Shadow Show. Shadowing it. Shadowing it. Is it the new hat or Does Dugatz look 10 years younger?

[Dan LeBatard]

I shaved you.

[Chris Cody]

You are clean shaven. And I haven't seen that in a while. It's been a long time.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, last week, I think.

[Greg Cody]

Looks tan too.

[Chris Cody]

Clean shaven. It might be the hat.

[Stugotz]

It's the hat.

[Chris Cody]

It is a new.

[Dan LeBatard]

Nice hat.

[Chris Cody]

It is a new hat. Do you want to tell us the story of the hat? Because we have seen you dress a certain way for a long time now, and we've seen the same hat for a while now. So this hat is actually you. And I don't wear light colors. Very Much so I'm in a light shirt today and people commented on that. So I imagine you've been getting a lot of comments on your hat.

[Dan LeBatard]

Now this is the first comment I've received about the hat. I will tell you the story that I was. I was at the Sphere. I have a residency there along with Dead and Company. And it was like two in the morning. I'm strolling through a little gift shop at the Wynn Hotel and there was a mirror in there and I looked at the hat I was currently wearing and it was stained. It looked really bad. And I was embarrassed. Even at a dead show at 2 in the morning, I was embarrassed about the hat I was wearing. And then I saw this hat and I'm like, that looks like a good.

[Chris Cody]

Hat fits you well too.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, I was micro dosing on mushrooms. I was doing the things you do at Dead and Company at the Sphere in Las Vegas.

[Chris Cody]

That looks like a hat you would buy while micro dosing. But that's not your excuse today. You have decided to stay with the look, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, yeah, because the other hat is still stained. I don't know how to get stains out of a hat. I mean, so this is the, the cleanest, the newest hat I, that I have and I like it. It's. I think it's a good look.

[Greg Cody]

I don't know at what point is it not microdosing anymore? If take like six tablets, I like, I feel like, you know, I've heard from a friend that, you know, take a couple and you're like, oh, this is nice. But then if you take six, you're not micro dosing anymore, you're just dosing.

[Chris Cody]

Put it on. You're overdosing, but put it on the pole. Juju at Levitt show, if you take six tablets, are you still micro dosing?

[Juju]

I took a hat to the dry cleaners once. It worked.

[Chris Cody]

I'm going to really, I'm going to put it on the pole. Juju as well. Would you ever take a hat to the dry cleaner? Not a baseball cap.

[Juju]

It was a baseball cap. It was one of my white baseball caps that I really like. And it had makeup stains and stuff. So I took it to the dry cleaners. They got it all out. It got stained again within like three days. And then I put it in my washing machine, same results. You could just put it in the wash.

[Greg Cody]

I think my wife has done the thing where she buys like the little hat thing that you can put to put it in the washing machine. If you put the hat in this little thing. It keeps it. It won't mess it up. It didn't work. It messed up all the hats. She's done it with.

[Stugotz]

Washing machine tends to mess up the hats. I've heard dishwasher.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dishwasher work.

[Juju]

How does the washing machine mess it up?

[Stugotz]

Mine was fine because of the cycle. I guess if you have other in there, they can, you know, compromise the structural integrity of the hat. Whereas the dishwasher stationary. You don't have to worry about things bumping into it.

[Chris Cody]

The hat that was stained, did it get stained there or. Because I. You have had hats that you golf in and you wear a lot and they do get stained. So this one was more stained than the average stained hat.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, this one was. This had arrived at a place where it was no longer wearable. I couldn't wear it anymore.

[Greg Cody]

You never know where a hat stain comes from.

[Stugotz]

Nope.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right? Yeah, right.

[Greg Cody]

You're like, where'd that come from?

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Dan LeBatard]

One day it looks like new, the next day it's, you know, you're throwing it in the garbage and you're getting one from the win at 2 in the morning. Microdose it.

[Chris Cody]

Chris. Did your wife has to be alarmed by the sheer number of hats she ruined, right? Because you, you seem, if I had to guess, who's got the most hats around here, it's you, is it not?

[Greg Cody]

No, no. Like Roy and Billy and they have all those hats, the, the minor league hats that we got sent over the years.

[Stugotz]

My wife hates the fact that I have so many hats. I have like, I got from the Internet, like two industrial size hat racks that you have in department stores and they're just packed to the brim. And I, it's overflowing. I have a separate crate for it. I conservative estimate I might have like 300 hats.

[Greg Cody]

And to answer your question, she doesn't ruin a lot of hats because after the first one I was like, you're never washing any of these hats again.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Dan Levator show with.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Stu Cats podcast.

[Chris Cody]

We'll get to the WNBA draft and an explosive article by the athletic. That's not all that explosive, but it's just about Belichick and his girlfriend. So people are going to eat that up today because an open records request, I imagine. Even though the emails were not terribly damaging, I believe North Carolina will not make the mistake again of having a situation where they can be subject to an open records request, even though it's a school. And I just got to imagine they're going to be Communicating more carefully now, even though the article just makes Jordan Hudson, his girlfriend, look like a business beast, like, she's. She's going to be helpful for this, for Belichick in his old age. But before we get to that, I just. I need to start with. We've known Jessica here for four years now. I've never seen her as angry as I did before the show. And I was only catching glimpses of it, right, because it was going past the door and I don't know who she was yelling at or where it was directed, but she is fed up with the idea of only Katy Perry going to space. Like, all I heard was just stray shots, and it wasn't anyone else that was bothering her, but it seemed like Katy Perry doing it bothered her.

[Juju]

I mean, did it not bother you, Dan? Did not bother you, Mike?

[Stugotz]

I could see how it bothers folks.

[Juju]

This whole space thing. It's not just Katy Perry, okay? This started years ago maybe. The first time they did it, I was like, that seems like a waste of money. Then the second time they did it, I was like, okay, what's the point of this now? They're doing it. They're like, it's an all female space crew. Oh, my God. Feminism.

[Hannah]

Yes.

[Juju]

I don't care. Who cares? Like, what a. What a turd. Honestly, this just landed on my timeline like, a turd yesterday, and I just don't care. I'm like, you were in space for 11 minutes. You get off the flight, you kiss the ground. Really? Like, William Shatner went up into space however many years ago on one of these flights and said that it made him very sad. It was a very sad and lonely and like, just a profound moment for him. And he was like, I don't know why I did that. Basically, I'll read the quote.

[Chris Cody]

No, please, no. I'm going to find. While you're talking, I'm going to find the quote because it was one of the best quotes I've ever read by anybody. William Shatner doing some real pondering while going up into space. And I'm gonna find it right now. Gayle King looked. She looked miserable, deeply unhappy. I imagine you'd be a little scared. No. No one else seems scared.

[Greg Cody]

That's what she looked to me, Gayle King, terrified.

[Stugotz]

She looked every bit of, oh, my God, I'm strapped to a rocket going into outer space and I may not come back. Is that Katy Perry?

[Juju]

And they were like, Katy Perry sang in space. Like, okay, of course she did. I don't care.

[Greg Cody]

What a day. For women.

[Stugotz]

Okay. Katy Perry has had nine number one singles.

[Juju]

People forget she was a superstar in the 2000s. Early 2010. Like, I loved Katy Perry.

[Dan LeBatard]

Biggest of super.

[Juju]

This isn't about her music sucks. Which her new album wasn't very good. This isn't about like her public Persona. This is about any of the things that may annoy you about Katy Perry. This is the fact that they just spent like millions of dollars for an 11 minute space trip and they were like, ooh, look, but it's all women.

[Stugotz]

May I. May I posit that it is a little bit about Katy Perry sucking now?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Juju]

I mean, I'll give you a little bit.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Because she, it, it feels like an overt marketing ploy. She reveals the set list while she's in outer space to her tour. A tour that's reportedly been really struggling to sell tickets after a huge flop of an album. It felt like a transparent marketing ploy, which is like the only thing that really bothered me about Katy Perry going in album.

[Jeremy]

I know you think it's a marketing ploy, but how do you know this wasn't her teenage dream?

[Mike Ryan]

Get out.

[Chris Cody]

Don't do that to him.

[Juju]

No, get out.

[Dan LeBatard]

He deserves it.

[Chris Cody]

It's too early. Was forced out. Okay. All right, let's see here. What do we have? Let me see what we've got here.

[Stugotz]

He had nine number one singles to choose from.

[Greg Cody]

Major penalty, five minutes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Grooming, comedy. Wow. Gotta be high sticking.

[Chris Cody]

I. I really got bullied. I got bullied into that one by you guys.

[Juju]

I have nothing Dan, to say about like, the ethical implications of this, the moral implications of this, any of the things that are happening with Amazon. I put all of that aside. Just the mere substance of people going to outer space. But it's not really outer space. But technically it is outer space. And this whole publicity stunt aspect of it. Who is it for? Does anyone care?

[Chris Cody]

Well, you. You are understandably upset about this and a lot of people are.

[Stugotz]

Yes, I think Bezos did face plant.

[Mike Ryan]

So that's good.

[Stugotz]

I'm here for the content of it. The Gayle King looking terrified aspect of it. The force marketing ploy. Jeff Bezos face planting as he was being a concerned husband outside of the spaceship. No, no. They got married, didn't they? Did they get married or.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think they got married. Yeah, who cares? Italy.

[Stugotz]

Either way, he face planted. That's the headline.

[Chris Cody]

So this is part of the quote. I'm having more and more trouble finding things because of the acid pit of AI that Google is and that everything is so Shatner said of going into space, he's the oldest person to ever go into space. I wept for the Earth because I realized it's dying. I dedicated my book Bold Go, to my great grandchild, who's three now coming three. And in the dedication, say, it's them, these youngsters who are going to reap what we have sown in terms of the destruction of the Earth. I saw more clearly than I have with all the studying and reading I've done. The writhing, slow death of Earth and we on it. It's a little tiny rock with an onion skin air around it. That's how fragile it all is. It's so fragile. We hang by a thread. We're just dangling. And he said he started crying because it was just grief. Now I will say that I have, and this will surprise no one listening to this. Been told after crying on an airplane, that at certain heights you get more emotional. And so, I don't know.

[Dan LeBatard]

Interesting.

[Chris Cody]

I don't know if the higher you go, like, so I have been told. Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Do airplanes. Does traveling at a great height make people more emotional?

[Juju]

This is a great bit to find out how the higher you go, do you cry? At worst movies, like, if I can get up to 10 miles above sea level, am I crying at the end of 80 for Brady? Because at 30,000ft, Little Women bawling my eyes out. I mean, oh, my God, what a devastating, devastating film.

[Chris Cody]

Chris Cody was right. What a day for women, huh?

[Greg Cody]

Feels like it.

[Juju]

They're like, yeah, we're, you know, the government's going to defund NASA, all of our science and medical research. We don't care about that. But, like, look, we're. We're going to space with Katy Perry. Look over here. Katy Perry's going to space.

[Dan LeBatard]

Would you want to go to space?

[Chris Cody]

Not particularly.

[Dan LeBatard]

He could. He would, but he could.

[Chris Cody]

What just happened there?

[Greg Cody]

I was trying to call back to.

[Dan LeBatard]

You could go to space.

[Chris Cody]

At least you did it. Well, yeah, from 10 days ago.

[Greg Cody]

Stay focused on the joke.

[Dan LeBatard]

Now that we've heard it and the question.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, but I thought the joke was about, I could live there, but I would live there.

[Greg Cody]

I think you could go to space, but you wouldn't.

[Chris Cody]

I couldn't go to space and I wouldn't. So I think the joke doesn't work on any level.

[Juju]

And you wouldn't.

[Chris Cody]

I. But I. But I couldn't. How would I go to space? I don't like, it's. It's too expensive.

[Juju]

Call Mickey Arison. I don't know. You must have a connection.

[Chris Cody]

No, I can't. So wait a minute. So Mickey Harrison's Cruise Lines and not Rockets. Just. He's a rich person. So I just call Mickey Harrison.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know, you say, get me to space.

[Chris Cody]

So here. So I've said this before on the show. Like, I legitimately. If you gave me. I live right here in the epicenter of Miami, and I have for a long time. And if you gave me a challenge right now and said, dan, by yourself in an hour, get cocaine, I couldn't do it. And I wouldn't know how to do it. Like, I wouldn't know where exactly to start.

[Dan LeBatard]

The alley where you get blood every morning.

[Chris Cody]

It's not every morning. It's every three months. But I legitimately don't know how to do that. So when you tell me, can I go to space? I don't think I can, even if I wanted to. I don't think. I think this is just the exclusive domain of William Shatner and Katy Perry. I don't know how much this costs. I assume it's extraordinarily expensive, like that coke. I'm guessing that.

[Stugotz]

So I don't know how much, like, would you pay. Like, you'd probably pay $25,000 for cocaine because it's just so foreign to you.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, if you're a coke dealer, you seek out Dan, he's a whale.

[Stugotz]

25,000 sound okay. Is that all right?

[Chris Cody]

Find out for me what it would cost somebody if they just wanted to go to space. What can you tell me what you're interested? Stugots, this athletic story. I imagine that this will. This is one of those that gets people behind the paywall because they are simply interested in the fact that Bill Belichick is 50 years older than his girlfriend. And there was a lot of talk a couple of weeks ago because it was just. It was just known that she was being. She was involved in some of the business operations and emails and managing and marketing of his career. And in this open records request, she has a title. And so I thought she was acting as sort of a manager. Manager slash agent. But she is the chief operating officer of Belichick Productions. And so coo. That's correct. That is a high position. That's one of.

[Dan LeBatard]

Very high.

[Chris Cody]

That's one of his chief executives. And among the things she's handling is she's talking to their sports information department about how Steve Belichick is framed. She is writing emails saying he is to be framed as his own person, stay away from pictures of the two. Make sure that you are giving out his resume. And try to avoid the idea of Bill's son. Now, there are two. There are two Belichick kids on the staff. Right. But only. This was only in the older one, the one that we know that we've seen on NFL sidelines. She was also telling their social media people to get in the comment sections and start, you know, silencing people, blocking people, because one of the emails from Belichick himself was saying. He was saying, I can't believe that UNC would in any way be okay with me being called a predator because of who he's dating. And so they. They went and they scrubbed it, and he's. And he. And they are asking. It's flimsy. You can't. It's only 44 pages. And you don't see the rest of the exchange, but you're basically snooping around in Belichick's office and you're through his email. And then the one that I think Stugatz is going to like is there's also, on April 3rd, a signed document with the US Patent and Trademark Office consenting to an application for 14 phrases. Chapel Bill.

[Dan LeBatard]

That was mine. I mean, to be fair, the Bella Straighter. Ooh, wow. Jay Billis doesn't have that. I mean, and all forms of it. The Billustrator.

[Stugotz]

Illustrator.

[Dan LeBatard]

I know, but you have to take everything else, right?

[Stugotz]

Bellustrator.

[Dan LeBatard]

I get it.

[Chris Cody]

It's totally different.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't get it.

[Juju]

Like Telestrator.

[Chris Cody]

Yes, yes.

[Juju]

But why.

[Chris Cody]

But Belichick. Because. Well, look, I'm not saying they're good patents. I'm just saying they went for 14 of them.

[Juju]

Don't bother with that one. That's what I'm saying.

[Dan LeBatard]

The first one's good. Chapel Bill is good.

[Chris Cody]

Chapel Bill is good.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. I want the rest.

[Chris Cody]

I don't have all 14. The Athletic couldn't get all 14. They only got some explosive article. They got 40 point. I said it's only explosive because people like reading about this. I would imagine.

[Jeremy]

You didn't tell us that they had Chapel Bill in parentheses. Bill's version.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, I didn't really even understand that.

[Jeremy]

Taylor's version.

[Chris Cody]

It was spelled exactly the same way.

[Jeremy]

It's Taylor's version. Like Taylor Swift. Come on, Dan.

[Stugotz]

Jeremy, you're flirting with disaster.

[Jeremy]

The Belichick way. Been trademarked.

[Dan LeBatard]

Thank you.

[Chris Cody]

Minor penalty, two minutes high sticking.

[Jeremy]

Been real hot and cold with these jokes today.

[Chris Cody]

That one was a little bit.

[Juju]

Speaking of female pop Stars. How did they spell chapel? Cuz maybe he's like a chapel drone. Also, now that I've talked about another celebrity female artist, I. I did it again. I'm kind of scared. The last time I did this didn't end well for me. And I still don't talk about C asterisks on the Internet. I take back everything I said about Katy Perry. I don't want to get another beef.

[Stugotz]

Does Katie have the same kind of fan zone?

[Juju]

She definitely does.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

No way.

[Juju]

She must. She must.

[Stugotz]

I mean, they're not doing work right now for her. She could use them.

[Chris Cody]

Chris, is your father okay? Because Greg Cody. Tuesday, I've gone too far into the show without addressing the fact that Greg Cody is not here today. That Greg Cody is okay. He is. Well, he has the belly button umbrella that he had or awning, whatever that thing was over his belly button. What do we know about it now?

[Greg Cody]

It's been pushed back. I haven't seen his stomach yet. I know he's home yesterday and he was texting with me. FaceTiming. And he's good. He's just resting. He was even debating coming in tomorrow, but we're thinking we're gonna push it back to a Thursday. Just give him a few days to rest. So we are expecting him this week.

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[Dan LeBatard]

Bob Kraft. The only reason your organization is good is because of Bill Belichick.

[Chris Cody]

Stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

Belichick has done nothing since. Since Brady left. He made the playoffs once. I think at the very least, he should not be a first ballot hall of Famer. They should make him wait like 10 years to get it. He's an overrated coach.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stug. Oh, thank you for putting that behind me. There is J.D. vance. I had not talked about that yet. Jay. You cannot put anything in the hands of these people and trust that it will be handled with care. J.D. vance at Ohio State's championship celebration at the White House. That one hurts, right? Like, I understand that humiliation requires people to be capable of shame, but that one hurts like he goes home at night. And the image of that. If you care about Ohio State football, like, all you gotta do is not that. That's the only thing you gotta not do. You can do almost anything else. In fact, you have more range than you have ever had to do almost anything else wrong in this situation. But that you can't do. I'm guessing that that caused him some shame, and there's plenty on that resume to cause shame, but I'm guessing that one hurt. He's like, how could I not know that that trophy is two pieces? How could I, how could I botch that that completely?

[Greg Cody]

I love how he reacts in a way like, let me pick this up real fast so no one notices. Like, he kind of reacts in a way like. Like, oh, let me do this.

[Dan LeBatard]

Really?

[Greg Cody]

Let me hear. No, nothing happened here. But it's like, yes, we all cleared.

[Jeremy]

The entire press corps there.

[Juju]

Dan, to your point, if you've watched any college football national championship games over the last five, six years, 10 years, everyone knows this is a two piecer, right? I mean, real ball watchers know.

[Chris Cody]

Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Did you know that the national championship trophy in football was two pieces?

[Dan LeBatard]

Those hands have to be slippery though, right?

[Chris Cody]

I mean, just all of it is slippery.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Greg Cody]

No one loved that more than Trump.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's just like, it wasn't me. Look at this guy.

[Greg Cody]

I would never do that.

[Jeremy]

Well, that they sent him up there because he was the Ohio guy. Like, all right, Ohio State, here's Vance's chance to have a moment. And then the base of the trophy just Slips out of his hands and he fumbles around for it like he's like dropping papers outside of his car.

[Greg Cody]

Someone has to yell there. Like in the group, one of the players fumble.

[Chris Cody]

There was. There was wincing and gasping again. Only one thing you can't do. Don't drop or break the trophy. I mean, I suppose. I suppose there are things that can be said that would also be a humiliation. But just that particular video, I'm guessing, you guys. Tell me, if that had happened to you, do you think you'd have trouble sleeping that night? That if. Because it's never fun. Stugac. It can't be fun to anybody to be the source of viral shame. Like, even people who are super confident people, even people who are indifferent about the Internet. I suppose the people who can avoid this are just people who aren't attached at all or in any way to the Internet. But I was having a conversation the other day while we were in California as part of the South Beach Session series with both Mena Kimes and Bill Lawrence about the effect of social media that I've been surprised by in my 50s when I wasn't affected by it in my 30s and my 40s. And like, I'm just super confused by sort of like, the way. The way that what the Internet is and what has always been has a corrosive effect on my mind. While we all sort of acknowledge, hey, this is a great untreated addiction that we all sort of have, that people walking around on the streets, you cannot walk 10 steps without seeing someone who is in their phone. Because these things have become appendages for us. But viral shame, even to these. This clown car of people, I don't.

[Dan LeBatard]

Think he cares, Dan. I don't think J.D. vance. I think he slept fine last night.

[Chris Cody]

You think he's immune to. So you're immune to shame? Because the reason I'm saying this one.

[Stugotz]

Hurts is just like, hey, generally that is the administration's superpower. But agreed, no one can replicate POTUS shamelessness. And JD has quite famously tried, but falls short. And I do you see it on his face right here. Immediate shame.

[Chris Cody]

It's just you're sent out there on behalf of Ohio. Here's the most precious thing Ohio has. It's the thing like, give Ohio one thing. This is what they want it to be. And you broke it in half and you fumbled and it's like, you gotta go home. And I don't know. I don't know what your wife says to you in that situation. I don't know how anyone soothes you in that situation, but you just think, stu got you. You. I think just.

[Dan LeBatard]

They seem incapable of shame. So I have a hard time thinking. I'm certain he had plenty of things to do after that, that day, but I just think that they're incapable. Like, no, he's not losing sleep over that, man. He's done a lot worse than that.

[Stugotz]

It's a bad trophy too, right? It's got to be one piece. The fact that it comes apart, that's terrible. It's bottom heavy.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. It's on the trophy makers.

[Stugotz]

It looks like a dick and a vagina.

[Juju]

Yeah, I would say that's a plus.

[Stugotz]

I mean, it's the only trophy in sports that looks like both.

[Chris Cody]

Is it the only trophy in sports that's a two piece?

[Stugotz]

No. I mean, I remember the old national championship trophy. The crystal ball was fixed on top of a really massive base, but people would lift the crystal ball up. In fact, NCAA trophies generally very flimsy. They're wild planks. They're two pieces.

[Juju]

Just.

[Stugotz]

Just give me. You know what? Just give me.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just give me a trophy.

[Stugotz]

Just give me a cup with two handlebars on the side. What are we doing?

[Chris Cody]

I mean, everyone thinks that the greatest trophy in sports is the Stanley Cup. There is no dispute of this. It is something that has great history on it and is also a bit like sort of the Carpenter's cup in Raiders of the Lost Ark that represents, you know, the golden enlightenment. Because. Because it's not particularly a beautiful trophy, but you know what it is. You know its history. And I suppose its size is awfully impressive, but you know what that trophy means. I don't think it's actually beautiful as a trophy, though.

[Juju]

If the Stanley cup bowl came off of the base, this is what we're talking about here with this thing. But if you watch hockey, you would know, pick it up with two hands or just pick up the top.

[Chris Cody]

This is one of the reasons, though, that I believe that there might actually be a dollop of shame here. That's a terrible way to learn that. To learn that it's two pieces.

[Juju]

You live in a post shame society. Dan. Katy Perry is going to space.

[Greg Cody]

His assistant got fired. Right?

[Chris Cody]

Somebody like, literally a handler, like, you need somebody.

[Dan LeBatard]

You didn't tell me it was two pieces.

[Chris Cody]

Somebody to handle Pop Tart bowl trophy.

[Juju]

Two pieces.

[Greg Cody]

You see what you did to me out there?

[Juju]

Oh, I guess. I guess you wouldn't know.

[Chris Cody]

I would like to know if there is another trophy that is indeed two pieces.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think the Lombardi Trophy is the greatest of all the trophies in terms of being able to handle it, carry it. You can pick it up with one hand. I mean, it's great. It's an efficient trophy. It is. And it means more than any other trophy.

[Juju]

Stugot isn't like the Claret jug have a. Have a awkward, like, lid on it or something that does at the top.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, it's weird.

[Juju]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

I think Stugatz is right, though. Like, I. As a. As a trophy you want, the Stanley cup is a cumbersome beast. It is. You cannot lift. No one can lift it up with one hand. You must lift it up. Lift it up with two.

[Stugotz]

What's cool is that your name is on it for several generations before they retire those little cylinders and put it to the hall of Fame. But you're etched in history forever. And I know you're given the Lombardi Trophy, and it's there on a display case, and you get your super bowl rings, and I guess that's your own personal trophy. But the fact that part of the experience is everyone that grows up wanting to be a pro hockey player wants to have their name there. They win it, they go through it. Oh, is my cousin on there? Is.

[Dan LeBatard]

Is.

[Stugotz]

Look at all these legends that are on this Stanley cup, and they want to read every single name. It's just. I think that's a cooler part of the experience. There's plenty of great trophies. There's plenty of bad ones, but the cup is just so far and above everybody else.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I think the cup is the coolest trophy for many of the reasons that you just described. I'm just saying the most efficient trophy to carry around with you is the Lombardi Trophy or the Heisman trophy.

[Jeremy]

Well, Larry O'Brien trophy is pretty easy to carry around. I guess.

[Stugotz]

Heisman's very heavy.

[Dan LeBatard]

You hold it by a leg, though, right?

[Chris Cody]

The Larry O'Brien is also heavy. These are heavy trophies. Both of them are, we can all.

[Jeremy]

Agree, the World Series trophy, aesthetically pretty, but doesn't really work for carrying around. Might get poked in the eye.

[Stugotz]

So dangerous. The chance for being impaled by that trophy is much higher than any other trophy.

[Chris Cody]

How about Wimbledon? Nothing?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, that's a. It's a bowl, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, it's a bowl.

[Chris Cody]

A dish that's like.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's the runner out.

[Stugotz]

Like, when you have company, you put salad in it.

[Juju]

Lando Norris. I know these, baby. Lando, for those who are fans of the F. One minute he broke. Accidentally broke a porcelain trophy. Last year, after a race, I think it was the Hungarian Grand Prix, and it caused quite a scandal, quite a stir.

[Chris Cody]

I'm. I'm sorry. I just laughed to myself about. About Stugatz last week, calling the green jacket a green coat.

[Dan LeBatard]

Rory got one.

[Chris Cody]

Yes, I'm. You were here yesterday, so we should get your thoughts because we were talking with glowing praise. I don't know the last golf moment around here that felt exactly like that one. I can't off the top of Tiger.

[Dan LeBatard]

Winning the Masters, maybe I can't off.

[Chris Cody]

The top of my head, remember anything other than that. Us talking about golf in a way that was purely positive and purely. Isn't golf, golf great? Or isn't sports. Isn't sports great? Because that's. And a reminder, again, like this is the part, right, that's so interesting to me about Luca being traded or any millions of ways that ownership or corporate ends up ruining the emotion business by forgetting that it's the emotion business. We don't have a lot of those where your customer is connected to your thing in a way that is super strange. Our value, for example, as just a sports adjacent entity has to do with the power of the emotion business, making the customer stick around for three hours. When the entertainment industry is so splintered that not just the entertainment industry and our attention spans are so splintered with the number of options that you have that staying in front of something for three hours and consuming it is a. Is a treasure chest. And I'm just curious what your thoughts were about the way that golf captured America on Sunday.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's such an amazing tournament, and it's why I love it so much, and it's why it's my favorite sporting event. And I say that every single year. It's my favorite week on the sports calendar. Saturday and Sunday at Augusta are just. They're incredible days where Justin Rose has the lead, but by the time he tees off, Rory is ahead of him and suddenly he doesn't have the lead. And what that does to your. To your mentality and how you approach it from a mental standpoint, thinking you're gonna have the lead, and then you don't have the lead by the time you tee off. It was. I gotta tell you, Sunday was great to watch. It was also frustrating because that guy is such a talented golfer. And I think what captivated the world was if he didn't close that out, he's a career choker. But he did close it out and he got it done. And the way he got it done was ridiculous. But he went from career choker, maybe never overcomes that final round to one of the all time greats. Well, he is up there, Dan, now with Tiger Woods. He is up there with. You can mention him in the same conversation because he has the career Grand Slam. It was frustrating from this standpoint. I'm not certain he deserved to win that thing. He blew it so many damn times. I was getting aggravated with Rory McIlroy.

[Chris Cody]

McElroy, that's one we bet four and a half. The over under today was four and a half times. You would get that golf dyslexia.

[Dan LeBatard]

But the reason I think people get so frustrated with him is the talent is so obvious. It is so great. He might be the greatest ball striker we've ever seen. And I'm including Tiger woods on the PGA Tour.

[Chris Cody]

And Chris Paul.

[Dan LeBatard]

Paul, 20 years, played 82 games, huh? No rings. What's more impressive? 20 years no rings or 20 years playing 82 games? Who cares about the fact that he played 82 games? I mean, seriously, you show up, you. I don't care if I see Chris Paul play. I know, hey, in a day where superstars aren't playing anymore, you know, they play 50 games, they play 60 games. There's Chris Paul 20 years in, still giving you 82 games. You know what he's giving you? 82 below average games. That's what he's giving you.

[Chris Cody]

I want to ask you guys, I'm.

[Dan LeBatard]

Talking about the master.

[Chris Cody]

I don't know you. I was surprised that you talk about.

[Dan LeBatard]

How talented Rory is. And that's why we get so frustrated when he misses a four foot putt. You're too talented to be us.

[Chris Cody]

I was legitimately surprised that you went straight to the Chris Paul take machine there.

[Dan LeBatard]

You lobbed it up.

[Chris Cody]

Well, but I mean, you said ball striker. You lobbed it up. When I'm sitting there watching though, what you're talking about in terms of pressure, can you guys tell me what it is that you think of when I ask the following question? The most pressurized thing that you watch, where you feel for an individual in sports, the pressure on that individual's behalf. Does anything do it with the speed and loneliness, the pace and loneliness that makes pressure in golf, the loneliness of it. You're alone over a ball with a stick. Makes human beings who know golf or don't know golf understand. Oh, I'm watching this. And I'm expecting a person not to have the mental strength to overcome how pressurized it is in this instance, to be precise, because he has time to think it's not muscle memory. This is like free throws. There aren't a lot of places in sports where you actually have. These people have been training so very much to get to those moments that whether it's an exhibition game or they're in the super bowl, there's a level of focus involved that makes it an event that they don't even have to think. They don't have to think. Golf is something entirely different. Golf, you can feel the weight on.

[Dan LeBatard]

These people from one shot to the next, by the way, but they then.

[Chris Cody]

Walk down the course. Right? So like I was thinking about this, about the day that, the times that they have to go to a playoff the next day. That's a tough night of sleep.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Chris Cody]

Because it's not just that you feel the pressure, it's that you know that everyone watching you knows that you're under pressure. Like, it's just, it's different than playing in front of a stadium full of people and having, you know, 100,000 people or 20,000 people, all that stuff, that's a lot of breathing on you, watching your performance. The thing the athlete risks, okay? And that it's, it, there's bravery in it, in being the gladiator or the entertainer, you risk. Risk being embarrassed, knocked out. In boxing, you risk being embarrassed in front of everybody. Boxers can't spend time thinking. Boxers, fighters can't spend time emotional. Like it's just gotta be scientific sort of survival, Survival. And so I felt this pressure on behalf of someone going in to fight. One of the menaces, you know, the historic menaces, whoever it is that you consider the boxers of all time, seeing them walk to the ring. I feel the pressure. But tell me, Chris, as someone who loves golf. Golf, where else? Like, I feel bad sometimes for the pressure on goalies or whatnot. But again, it's muscle memory, it's reflex. They're not, they're not spending a lot of time under knowing that they're under pressure. Aware of it.

[Greg Cody]

Baseball, pitchers. Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, in basketball it's on the foul line, right? Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

I mean, I can't. To your point, there's not a lot of examples of time to think in sports.

[Chris Cody]

Well, you don't, you don't think when you think baseball. Even a quarterback on a last minute drive. Right, right. Quarterback on a last minute drive. That whole thing takes less than two holes. Like this is an all day thing that you're living with. It's the last day. I've been playing for 10 years. I haven't won this guy's chasing me. We all feel it, is what I'm saying. We're all sort of there with you, but we don't really understand it. And so when do you understand it? When he's walking off at the end and you see, my God, he was terrified. He was Gayle King trying to go into space.

[Jeremy]

Maybe Clayton Kershaw making postseason starts. Guys like that, that are historically great regular season pitchers. Right. Pitchers specifically, that then have a big start later in a postseason when they've struggled. But those are few and far between. There are not a lot of guys who were that dominant in the regular season and then don't have those moments in the postseason. That's the only thing I can think of. Because even a closer, you don't know whether you're going in that day or not. You don't have to wear that with you all day long. Unless you're someone like Brad Lidge that, like, blew big game, and now you've got to go into the next one with a chance to win.

[Juju]

I was. Sorry, Dan. I was mistaken about the Claret Jug.

[Chris Cody]

Wow.

[Juju]

Okay, Jeremy. Give a. Give a fist bump, I guess for.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, they do that when I make good points now.

[Juju]

I guess it wasn't a claret jug, because that's a jug. It doesn't have a lid. I should have realized that. It's the Wanamaker Trophy and Colin Morikawa PGA Championship. Colin Morikawa.

[Dan LeBatard]

The top fell off. Yeah.

[Juju]

Yeah. Lifted it up after he won and the top fell off. I wanted to do a clarification.

[Stugotz]

Another great trophy in sports. I guess you could argue, even though there's an actual trophy for the Masters, there's the green jacket that everybody wants to have in their green coat one day. But there was a great trophy that was handed out over the weekend at Bristol Motor Speedway. You get a sword if you win at Bristol.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. A functional sword. I think our video team has a photo of what Kyle Larson won. A big old pointy sword.

[Chris Cody]

Okay. But you guys are throwing things at the video team, and the video team wasn't ready for what you threw at them.

[Stugotz]

They actually told me they were. So find the.

[Dan LeBatard]

We have a sword. Yes.

[Chris Cody]

Okay. Because I was waiting for the claret Jug to be dropped there. I was waiting for the Wanamaker Trophy.

[Stugotz]

We don't have to pay attention to it. We just move on.

[Chris Cody]

But are we going to see the video instead?

[Juju]

We got Jeremy fist bumping.

[Chris Cody]

Because I'd like to. I would like to see that video. That would be something not that video. That's not the one that I want to see.

[Jeremy]

You know, Chris Paul had a pretty good year.

[Dan LeBatard]

Reported the news.

[Chris Cody]

Well, let's talk about this for a second because. Because St. Gods.

[Dan LeBatard]

How's he gonna do in the postseason?

[Jeremy]

Oh, he won't be there.

[Chris Cody]

That was the joke, Jeremy. You could have just let that sit. The joke. That was the. Yeah, he won't be.

[Stugotz]

That's not being there is going around.

[Jeremy]

I was not being in the finals is the joke.

[Greg Cody]

I was hitting Rangers fans of that all last night at the Panthers game, like good luck in the play. Oh, that's right.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're not gonna be there.

[Jeremy]

Over 50% on two point field goals. 38 from three. Seventh in the league in a assists. Chris Paul, 40 years old, 82 games.

[Chris Cody]

How about that?

[Jeremy]

They outscored teams when he was on the floor. The spurs, they were terrible.

[Stugotz]

I cannot believe he has played to this age because he doesn't have cartilage in his knees and hasn't since like he got out of wake. It's crazy.

[Chris Cody]

There's nothing that can move Stugatz off of this position. Right.

[Stugotz]

Like I, I, Yeah, Chris Paul actually went in the thing. But that's not going to happen.

[Dan LeBatard]

No.

[Chris Cody]

You think that would move him off the.

[Stugotz]

Probably not. But at least like that's the one possibility to move him off of his, his Chris Paul hate.

[Dan LeBatard]

My problem with Chris Paul is when we, you know, back at espn, Stephen A. Would come on all the time and say He's a top 10 point guard of all time. And he's not. That's all. That's it. He's not all. The greatest point guards in the history of the NBA have won at least one title. At least one. Chris Paul. None. Congratulations on 82 games.

[Chris Cody]

It's not just 82 games though. It's 82 games and he played very well. He's still good.

[Jeremy]

He's 40, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

7Th of the league in assist. He'll be watching the playoffs with me and you. I mean, I would love that.

[Juju]

That sounds fun. Are we doing a watch party?

[Chris Cody]

Can we do that?

[Dan LeBatard]

We should hire him.

[Jeremy]

We should get Chris Paul.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Juju]

I bet he can get you into space.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's always available this time of year.

[Chris Cody]

We've got Jamal Crawford coming on later. Will you settle for some Jamal Crawford, Jay?

[Dan LeBatard]

Crossover. By the way. 250 grand to go to space on Richard Branson's rocket. Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

What?

[Dan LeBatard]

It's cheap. Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Wait a minute. That's not Spirit. That's not the Spirit Airlines of space.

[Dan LeBatard]

Folks.

[Greg Cody]

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