Local Hour: Chasing The First Jai (feat. George Cloney)

Summary

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Episode Overview

Episode Title: Local Hour: Chasing The First Jai (feat. George Cloney)
Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Date: December 12, 2025
Main Theme:
The crew gathers live from the Elser Hotel in Miami to gear up for the Magic City Fronton Battle Court championship — the last at this historic venue. What should be a day of high-stakes anticipation for co-owners of the Cyclones team devolves into a half-roast, half-heartfelt plea for attendance, as nearly the whole staff invents absurd excuses to miss the game. Amid the comedic disappointment, they tackle Heat trade rumors, NBA front office frustrations, South Florida nostalgia, and the chaos of college football playoff selection.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Magic City Fronton Battle Court Championship

• Why It Matters:
  The Cyclones, co-owned by the Le Batard Show crew, are playing in the Fronton championship — possibly the biggest event for the show besides national TV gigs.
• Chris Cody’s Excitement:
  "It's not every day that you get to wake up knowing that the team that we co own can win a championship ... Today, 7pm, Live on YouTube, live on the ESPN app." (03:39)
• Mike Ryan’s Disappointment:
  Mike is “a little bit angry” over teammates' lack of excitement and excuses for not attending, despite having open courtside seats. (06:45)
• The Core Issue:
  Everyone but Chris and Mike finds excuses (often comically flimsy) to skip the game — moving, training for a “media skate,” family obligations, etc.

Notable Quotes

• Chris Cody: “When have you ever been offered a courtside seat to a championship before?” (07:20)
• Mike Ryan: “Moving on your own — suck of behavior.” (09:25)

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2. Absurd Excuses for Missing the Championship

• Each Cast Member’s Excuse:
  • Dan: Genuinely working, hosting on ESPN Radio that night (07:14)
  • Tony: Moving into a new house, has a pod delivery window; called out as a “sucker” for not hiring movers (09:01)
  • Jeremy: “Moving” due to water damage repairs finally ending — forced to vacate an Airbnb (09:39)
  • Roy: Missing to “get his skating legs under him” for a media hockey skate a week away; widely roasted as the worst excuse (11:13)
• Comic Accusations & Challenges:
  • Jeremy's sincerity is questioned: “That sounds like bullshit.” (10:30)
  • Chris offers to support Roy’s skate if Roy comes to the championship: “I’ll go watch your little bullshit skate around ... if you come out and support the team you co-own tonight.” (18:22)
• Team Ownership Philosophy:
  Chris: “Our show owns the Cyclones. That’s always been my ... it’s not a Chris Cody team. It’s not a Mike Ryan team. It's a Dan LeBatard Show with Stugotz team.” (07:34)

Memorable Moment

• Roy fakes out saying, “I’ll be there,” before clarifying, “in spirit.” Whole room groans. (35:24)

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3. South Florida Nostalgia & Mall Talk

• Toy Store Memories:
  Spirals from mascot naming (“George Cloney”) to reminiscing about KB Toys and Lionel Play World in Aventura Mall, highlighting the show’s blend of sports and local nostalgia. (23:08–24:01)

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4. Giannis Antetokounmpo Trade Rumors & NBA Frustrations

• The Rumor:
  Giannis reportedly "likes Miami as his landing spot if not New York," per NBA reporter Howard Beck.
  • Dan reads: “Miami was suggested to me as a place Giannis would really love to land. If it’s not New York.” (24:45)
• Feasibility Debated:
  • Crew discusses why the Knicks’ potential package (centered on Karl-Anthony Towns and picks) isn’t viable for Milwaukee. (25:06)
  • Jeremy expands: “You need picks when you’re trading away a superstar ... I don’t see Atlanta moving Jalen Johnson, and Miami might actually have among the best feasible offers.” (26:02–27:17)
• The Heat’s Draft Pick Problem:
  • Limited trade assets due to previous trades and league restrictions.
  • Tony: “It wasn’t even a screwing. It was a royal screwing.” (36:35)
  • Jeremy outlines the only (complicated) options for the Heat to unlock more picks with Charlotte’s cooperation (45:14–46:13).

Notable Quote

• Chris Cody: “The Heat can realistically put together a package for Giannis, a package that starts with Kello, you’ll throw in Tyler Herro, and ... Niko Jovic.” (35:56)

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5. College Football Playoff Selection Chaos

• Ivan Maisel Interview Reaction:
  Chris Cody, after mainlining college football podcasts at “1.75 speed,” is left “gaslit” by Ivan Maisel’s explanations of the committee’s logic — or lack thereof. (37:58–41:44)
• Transitive Property Madness:
  Miami beat Notre Dame head to head, but the committee never discussed that result. Chris is outraged at the lack of common sense: “This is common sense. How can BYU be better than Miami but Notre Dame be better than BYU if Miami beat the team you’re saying is better than BYU?” (40:49)
• Call for Reform:
  Both Dan and Chris propose media insiders — not athletic directors — should make playoff selections to avoid conflicts of interest and ignorance. (42:18–43:48)

Notable Quote

• Chris: “What keen insight would an athletic director have over, say, Desmond Howard? This is stupid.” (43:48)

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6. Mascot Reveal: "George Cloney"

• Introduction:
  Inspired by the Cyclones’ team name and the actor George Clooney, the crew officially christens the team mascot “George Cloney.”
  • Mike Ryan quips about the cost: “That costume. You're looking at a $20,000 costume, worth every penny.” (22:49)
• Comic Bit:
  The room jokes about Cloney’s "dent" and fusses over getting him media credentials. (22:38–23:08)

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Key Quotes with Timestamps

• Chris Cody: “It’s the Biggest day of my life ... It’s not a Chris Cody team. It’s a Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz team.” (03:39–07:34)
• Mike Ryan: “Moving on your own — suck of behavior.” (09:25)
• Roy (on skating): “Yeah, I had to get my skating legs under me.” (11:45)
• Chris Cody (outraged): “That’s embarrassing. ... I’ll be there — in spirit. Dirty fake out.” (35:21, 35:32)
• Dan Le Batard: “What if I told you guys that Giannis Antetokounmpo might be interested in the Miami Heat?” (24:03)
• Chris Cody: “The Heat only have two tradable draft picks right now. Why is that? That’s because the Hornets and the NBA screwed the Heat, all right?” (35:56)
• Chris (on Playoff committee): “His argument was ... we think BYU is better than Miami, and we think Notre Dame is better than BYU. ... This is common sense!” (40:08–40:49)
• Chris Cody (on ADs): “What keen insight would an athletic director have over, say, Desmond Howard? This is stupid.” (43:48)

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Highlighted Segments (Timestamps)

• Courtside Championship & Cast Excuses: 03:39–14:00, 18:03–23:08
• Nostalgic Toy Store & Miami Chatter: 23:08–24:01
• Giannis Trade Speculation: 24:03–32:00, 35:56–46:13
• College Football Playoff Outrage: 37:27–44:33
• George Cloney the Mascot Reveal: 22:08–23:08

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Tone & Style

• Warm, fast-paced, irreverently funny, and sprinkled with local Miami nostalgia.
• Bickering and joking, with a touch of mock outrage and affection.

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Conclusion

This Local Hour embodies the Dan Le Batard Show’s unique blend of sports enthusiasm, inter-office ribbing, and obsessions both hyper-local (Miami malls, Battle Court) and national (NBA trades, CFB insanity). What should have been a party for “their” Battle Court team becomes an episode-length trial of everyone’s priorities, with comic levels of peer pressure and self-roasting — and some genuine insight into the NBA transaction market and college football’s ongoing selection mess.
And yes, if you show up in a $20,000 mascot costume, you’re officially part of the chaos.

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Transcript

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[Chris Cody]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Look at. Look at all the space I have today. Look at this. Everybody sitting on the throne by myself in the big room. Everybody, come see how good I look. All right, you guys are very fired. Not fired up on that side.

[Tony]

So.

[Dan Le Batard]

So.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, this is ridiculous.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let me see if I got this. Let me see if I got this. All right, first of all, before. Before we get to everything that's actually happening in that room right now, let's make sure everybody knows today's a huge day. All right? Today's a very, very big day.

[Chris Cody]

Perhaps the biggest says, really?

[Dan Le Batard]

And you may be saying, zaza, what are you talking about? The Heat aren't playing tonight. The Panthers aren't playing tonight. How. How. How is this a big day? All right, but, Mike, Cyclone.

[Chris Cody]

That is right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right?

[Chris Cody]

This is it. This is the Magic City Fronton finale, the final battlecore game ever played at the Magic City Casino. We are moving venues next year. It is battlecore championship day.

[Dan Le Batard]

Big day or not a big day?

[Chris Cody]

It's a big day.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a big day.

[Chris Cody]

Perhaps the Biggest day of my life. And I came in with a certain type of energy. It's not every day that you get to wake up knowing that the team that we co own can win A championship. Today, 7pm Live on YouTube, live on the ESPN app. ESPN3 is still a thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

I've been told that that's for real. Like, it's on. Yes, I'm on ESPN tonight. I'm on ESPN radio.

[Chris Cody]

You are busy. You have a good excuse. I could literally google what you're up to tonight.

[Dan Le Batard]

But, like, I could tell people while I'm on tonight. I'm. I'm doing the show with Amber Wilson and I could tell people while we're on, like, hey, you could go watch on the app. You could watch the Cyclone. That. That's a real thing.

[Chris Cody]

That's right.

[Mike Ryan]

If you want to see a championship tonight, like, a lot of people don't know. Some people are just at home. What do I want to watch tonight? You could see a championship won tonight.

[Chris Cody]

If you're not in Miami, if you're listening to us abroad, I just booked your Friday night plans. Open up a nice bold cab, cuddle up on the couch, and watch the Cyclones win a championship.

[Dan Le Batard]

How long is a highlight match?

[Chris Cody]

It depends. Doubles take longer in the battle court final. It's all doubles. That's what the playoffs are. So this could last about like two hours. It depends, but is it kind of.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like tennis or really short or really long?

[Mike Ryan]

Anywhere between two and three hours. Three would be a long match.

[Dan Le Batard]

A long time, man.

[Chris Cody]

Three hours. Oh, stop.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right.

[Mike Ryan]

So everything slows down in the playoffs.

[Tony]

How long is the radio show?

[Dan Le Batard]

Three hours. 17 to 10 tonight.

[Chris Cody]

Okay. You want to do a live from the front on?

[Dan Le Batard]

I would. That'd be amazing.

[Chris Cody]

It does get a little loud. Would be amazing.

[Tony]

Why don't you do it?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Yeah, you should do it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, I feel like it's a little bit late for me to sell that to espn.

[Roy]

No.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hey, come set me up down at.

[Chris Cody]

Magic City live from a championship.

[Dan Le Batard]

I know, I would like that, but this is something we should have arranged before 10 hours till showtime.

[Chris Cody]

You could argue corporate synergy. Hey, we have a championship game being played on the ESPN app, and I can broadcast live from there.

[Mike Ryan]

You guys send great Internet.

[Chris Cody]

You guys send me to some of the biggest sporting events in the nation, and this is one that's in our backyard.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now.

[Jeremy]

How.

[Dan Le Batard]

When I. When I'm selling it on the air to listeners, like, hey, how do I sell it?

[Chris Cody]

I think you should, number one, tell Your update anchor to play it straight like you have sport. Do they still just do it at the top of the hour?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Wouldn't that be amazing? Top and bottom.

[Chris Cody]

Top and bottom.

[Dan Le Batard]

Depends what day. Depends what day part you're on. But tonight, when I'm on, it's top and bottom.

[Chris Cody]

Top and bottom here. We gotta legitimize this sport. So just make sure it's passed.

[Jeremy]

It's a simple sell.

[Mike Ryan]

Hey, sports fan, do you like to witness greatness? You want to see the best backorder in the world go for a title tonight? I mean, it's just under the revelation.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are you guys him?

[Chris Cody]

Undertaker.

[Dan Le Batard]

Have you had moments where you're thinking yourself how it's going to feel to own.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm not going there yet.

[Dan Le Batard]

To be the. You haven't thought about.

[Chris Cody]

So this. This is exciting because I have lifted the prestige Battle Corps trophy. It was inside the bubble. It was a Covid season, the first ever season. And it's, you know, have you ever done heroin? Everyone says you're chasing that first high for the rest of your life. And that's been us with Battle Court. We're chasing that first high.

[Mike Ryan]

I wasn't even there for that one.

[Jeremy]

I was on a cruise.

[Chris Cody]

He was on a cruise.

[Jeremy]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

Absentee owner.

[Tony]

Let me.

[Mike Ryan]

Trust me, we've been there.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can you imagine if the heater in the NBA finals and Mickey Arison's on a cruise.

[Chris Cody]

I could actually. Yeah. Because that's his other job. That was a bad example because he.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, it's a great example because he would never be on the cruise.

[Mike Ryan]

Of all the examples in sports, though, probably the.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, that's why it's likely example be.

[Chris Cody]

Like, I'm sorry, he owns it and.

[Dan Le Batard]

He would still never be at that job. That's.

[Chris Cody]

You're bad. You're bad at analogy.

[Dan Le Batard]

You don't know what you're talking about.

[Chris Cody]

You don't know what you're talking about. He owns Carnival Cruise Lines. Like that would be a legitimate excuse. Better than what Roy's got going on.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, so. So that's what's happening tonight. All right? And I'm. I'm gonna make sure everybody on ESPN Radio knows what's going on. That they could watch you guys on the ESPN app. Because that's how I roll. All right. But all that excitement that we just described. Mike Ryan is also a little bit angry because for the last few days.

[Chris Cody]

I am a little bit angry.

[Dan Le Batard]

For the last few days, Mike Ryan has been coming in. You know, he's been in the Office here.

[Chris Cody]

Got that Bert Nurney cadence. It drives me wild.

[Dan Le Batard]

And he'll say, like, who wants to come on Friday? Clone cartel? You know, I got a suite. I want to make sure that there's enough room for everybody. And I specifically told Mike. I'm like, oh, man, I would totally come, which I would. I would totally come, but I'm working tonight. I can't.

[Chris Cody]

I know. I know you to be busy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. So apparently, like, everyone else is giving you excuses.

[Chris Cody]

This entire back room. Open invite courtside seats. When have you ever been offered a courtside seat to a championship before?

[Dan Le Batard]

Jeremy, you ever been up close to a game before?

[Jeremy]

No, never in my life.

[Mike Ryan]

Another bad example.

[Jeremy]

Certainly not a. Certainly not a finals game.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, certainly not. And you won't be unless you trade Tyler Hero. More on that in a second, but I assume. Look, we're all doing this together. Our show owns the Cyclones. That's always been my. The way that I view it, it's not a Chris Cody team. It's not a Mike Ryan team. It's a Dan LeBatard show with Stu Gott's team. And Dan's not gonna be there. Stu's certainly not gonna be there. It would be a real shock if he were.

[Mike Ryan]

That would be an upset.

[Chris Cody]

That would be something.

[Dan Le Batard]

That'd be a swerve.

[Chris Cody]

That'd be something. Text me back. And I assumed, guess ignorantly, that everybody here would be super psyched and match our level of excitement. I. We've been talking about the Battle Corps championship for weeks on end, and I know that you've been busy. It's cool. But I was like, tony, you excited? And I can't wait to see you there, pal. And he's like, oh, I would go.

[Jeremy]

I would.

[Tony]

I definitely would go.

[Dan Le Batard]

What's your excuse?

[Tony]

I'm not in that excuse.

[Chris Cody]

No, no, no couches. And you definitely wouldn't.

[Jeremy]

I would.

[Chris Cody]

No, no, I would. Don't tell me you would when the opportunity is staring at you right in the face. I've gone, if you would. I don't remember you going, what if.

[Mike Ryan]

You would, and he's been long.

[Tony]

Then you scre my buddy Tommy for getting too close to the net that one time that I don't know who was.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a rookie move. You don't walk.

[Chris Cody]

You don't walk close to the net.

[Dan Le Batard]

But you remember that or. No, everybody knows I don't.

[Chris Cody]

I drink a lot of these things, and. And he's not going. Tony's not going.

[Mike Ryan]

Like a dryer getting delivered.

[Chris Cody]

I got A I got one of those pods being delivered and I'm like, are at 6, 7pm for first toss.

[Dan Le Batard]

What does that even mean?

[Tony]

So I'm moving. We bought a house. Move my stuff.

[Roy]

Right.

[Tony]

The thing is, we got to move out this weekend and I got to start doing the work early.

[Jeremy]

Right.

[Tony]

They're going to put the pod work.

[Dan Le Batard]

You didn't hire a mover.

[Tony]

You got money for a mover, buddy?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, send it to me.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're doing this all yourself?

[Tony]

Doing my brother too. My brother in law.

[Dan Le Batard]

I can't think of it.

[Tony]

Only a couple of things.

[Chris Cody]

It's my brother in law with the pirated shirts. Yes. I don't like that.

[Mike Ryan]

Moving on your own suck of behavior.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow.

[Tony]

Suck of behavior because it is.

[Chris Cody]

You're a sucker.

[Roy]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right. So Tony, Wow. I didn't expect that this early in the.

[Tony]

We only use A's for suckers.

[Dan Le Batard]

So Tony's out. Very insulting. Jeremy, what's your excuse?

[Jeremy]

I'm also moving.

[Tony]

That's a lie.

[Jeremy]

That's got to be a no.

[Chris Cody]

How many people can possibly move on a front? You know what? Every. Everybody knows the great window to move is Friday evening. Everybody saves their moves for Friday.

[Dan Le Batard]

Every community has laws that like, you can't move on the weekend.

[Jeremy]

So here's what's happening. I already live in my home, but for the last two months, I've been out of my home because we had a leak in.

[Dan Le Batard]

What? You're serious? We're doing a moving kind of thing as well?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

There was construction in our house for the last two months. Today is the day that we are kicked out of the Airbnb. It's the last day that we have for rent. We literally, as of yesterday, got the sign off to be back in our house. All of the timing worked out great. The unfortunate part is that the timing also meant there would be a controversy with highlights.

[Chris Cody]

This is the bullshit.

[Jeremy]

I don't like any of this.

[Tony]

That sounds like bullshit.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, now we're moving on the truth.

[Chris Cody]

This is the bullshit.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now we're calling me a liar.

[Chris Cody]

Waiting for. You know what? Everybody loves their weekend plans of moving on Friday.

[Jeremy]

There's nothing I could do about it.

[Mike Ryan]

Insurance would all be covered this Friday. Moving.

[Jeremy]

I have no choice.

[Chris Cody]

And then we turn our attention to Roy. Roy, a legacy member of the cast, someone that I know would love to celebrate a championship. And I. And I said, hey, family friendly kids free. This is free to the public. This is the best bargain in town. And I'm like, roy, you coming tonight? And he's like, Exaggerating right there, searching. And guess what he told me.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know.

[Chris Cody]

I got one person hosting radio. That's okay, I can Google it. I got two people moving at the exact same time on a Friday night. I don't believe them, but whatever. You know what Roy told me? I'm going to the practice rink. There's no way. There's no way.

[Roy]

Yeah. As you know, the Winter Classic is coming down in about two weeks and I have to get my skating legs under me because.

[Mike Ryan]

You're practicing?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, I thought you were like, going to watch the Panthers practice.

[Roy]

No, no, the Panthers are on the road.

[Dan Le Batard]

I can't you understand how road trips work?

[Chris Cody]

Roy's lacing them up because he's got a big one against the rags.

[Roy]

Yeah. So, yeah, I had to get my skating legs under me.

[Jeremy]

Okay, hold on.

[Chris Cody]

That's by far the most ridiculous excuse.

[Dan Le Batard]

For what is you sk. Have anything to do with the Winter Classic?

[Roy]

There's a media skate and I'm going to be a part of that.

[Dan Le Batard]

When you say skate, that like a game?

[Roy]

Yeah. Not a game. Like you get to go on the ice at the ballpark.

[Chris Cody]

Wait a second. You're training for a casual skate around the rink? Yeah. This is bullshit.

[Roy]

This is not bullshit.

[Chris Cody]

He's getting his skating legs under him. I go to Kendall Ice arena, like once every three years. Trust me, I don't need to train for it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I hope at seven I like to.

[Roy]

See you skate then.

[Chris Cody]

I do. Every three years.

[Mike Ryan]

That is the.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is a completely fair point that Mike Ryan is making because I haven't skated. I haven't ice skated in years. And I know if you took me to an ice skating rink right now, I'll skate my pants off.

[Roy]

Like, I would like to see that.

[Mike Ryan]

I would not.

[Chris Cody]

He's poor Canadian.

[Dan Le Batard]

You don't forget how to skate.

[Roy]

Skating is like riding a bike, Zap.

[Chris Cody]

It really is. For you.

[Mike Ryan]

Maybe if you didn't ever know how to skate, though. And you're learning.

[Chris Cody]

But he's learned. Yeah, the learning's been done.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's already a learned skater.

[Chris Cody]

He's a learning skater.

[Mike Ryan]

At 7:15 tonight when like the intense moment for. About to have first toss. I want just a cut to what Roy's doing.

[Chris Cody]

I. This is. He's just at a nice. This is insane. Yeah, I thought he was training for a media game because that's what I heard a year ago when he began his training, and now it's just a. A casual jaunt. Around a rink, in a baseball park. I've never once in my life gone to Kendall Ice arena and been like, damn, I should have trained for this.

[Mike Ryan]

You gonna go backwards?

[Roy]

I'm gonna try.

[Dan Le Batard]

Roy, you just started like you just learned how to skate.

[Roy]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

How long ago?

[Roy]

I learned how to play while skating about a couple months ago.

[Dan Le Batard]

And what about learning how to actually skate?

[Roy]

How to actually skate? Not intensely. Before this year. So no, it was really the first time I really learned how to skate.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow. When you first got out there, were you out there, like, with the bullshit where, you know.

[Roy]

No, no, no, no.

[Mike Ryan]

We have a live look at what Manu is doing this morning to prepare for tonight's.

[Dan Le Batard]

That guy plays for you.

[Mike Ryan]

That's our. That's the best backorder in the world.

[Chris Cody]

That guy plays for us.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's your boy.

[Chris Cody]

That's your boy.

[Tony]

My.

[Chris Cody]

My new la Douche, that is.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't want people to think he's actually.

[Chris Cody]

He doesn't smoke.

[Mike Ryan]

That's what we imagine he's doing right now.

[Jeremy]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Jeremy]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Tony]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Dan lebatard My algorithm on Instagram is Dan it's all boobs St Good algorithm. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Chris Cody]

Boy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to hear who. And we're gonna get back to the clones, all right? I want to hear who else is skating in this media skate.

[Roy]

Well, I don't know. I just know that the league, the league emailed me.

[Chris Cody]

I'm gonna text, I'm gonna text.

[Jeremy]

They emailed you to be like, hey.

[Chris Cody]

Roy, do you want to skate before the game? I'm. I'm texting Peter Black.

[Roy]

It's not, it's not training for this casual state. It's like, I don't know, maybe a week or two. A week before the game or something like that.

[Chris Cody]

So it's a week before the game.

[Tony]

That you're just gonna skate on ice? I could take you to the ice arena.

[Chris Cody]

Tell you what, I'll make you a promise. I will go watch your little bullshit skate around and support you if you and the family, including Princess Claire, come out and support the team you co own tonight. Magic City Fronton, 7pm first toss Eastern.

[Roy]

You need a credential for skate there for the Fronton.

[Chris Cody]

Are you telling me I can't come to your casual skate?

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on a second.

[Chris Cody]

You can just regular. Are you telling me I can't pull a credit? Let me tell you, I'll be there with a lanyard on. All right? I will have a fancy ass lanyard.

[Dan Le Batard]

He'll wear, he'll wear a hat that says press on.

[Chris Cody]

I will be there.

[Mike Ryan]

He'll have level one access.

[Roy]

I'd love to see you.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, he'll be on the ice with you.

[Dan Le Batard]

How about that?

[Chris Cody]

Oh, you got skates. This is. I. Yeah. And I don't need training for it. I don't need to train for it. I'll be like, well, it's one of those, those times. Once an Olympiad, Mike laces them up and. Look, I'll be fine. I'll be okay.

[Mike Ryan]

Race around the ring.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Roy]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris Cody]

I'll be okay. This is the bullshit that I was telling you about as.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow.

[Chris Cody]

Roy, look at me in my eyes. Wow. Bad excuse.

[Mike Ryan]

Roy, Imagine, Roy, imagine game seven and you're like, chris, you going tonight? And I'm like, I'm going to play volleyball, my friends.

[Chris Cody]

No, no, no. Chris is like, I got to practice volleyball because I'm playing in a couple of weeks.

[Dan Le Batard]

What would happen, Roy, what would happen if you didn't go to practice tonight and you show up to the media skate? Like, would you just be. You'd be falling down all over the place. Roy, what's. You know, I went to Cyclones you.

[Chris Cody]

Think they're going to be scouts there? Think the Rangers are going to be there? Like wow, that guy should have trained three weeks ago.

[Roy]

You don't know.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, at least Roy's being honest. Jeremy's just making up.

[Chris Cody]

Making up.

[Jeremy]

Jeremy, I was just thinking to myself, I feel so much better. I feel almost no guilt now because I actually have something to do.

[Dan Le Batard]

So if we're going to.

[Chris Cody]

What are you talking about?

[Roy]

You actually.

[Mike Ryan]

How many more.

[Jeremy]

How many more times do you plan on skating before this ultimate practice game?

[Chris Cody]

Great question.

[Roy]

Hopefully several more times.

[Jeremy]

Exactly.

[Tony]

So you got several more opportunities.

[Chris Cody]

That's a worse.

[Roy]

Unbelievable.

[Dan Le Batard]

Gotta tell you, a little disappointed in this group. So Mike, Chris, because both of you guys, you'll obviously be there. Your owners, they don't be there. Okay, Ethan, if we had.

[Chris Cody]

If we haven't told you yet, Ethan's going to be there.

[Dan Le Batard]

If we had to rank level of.

[Roy]

Definitely not going to be there.

[Dan Le Batard]

If we had to rank level of disappointment with unattendance.

[Chris Cody]

Number one with a bullet is Roy. That's the bullshit. And I don't believe Tony straight up, his excuse is I got a pod being delivered at 3:00pm Eastern Time.

[Tony]

I didn't say 3:00pm I said the window is 5 to 7.

[Chris Cody]

No, no you didn't. No you didn't.

[Mike Ryan]

So if we hit that early window, you'll be there?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, you said you would.

[Jeremy]

I said I would.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, you would. I would knock him.

[Tony]

Yes. Once it knocks, then I'll know. All right.

[Chris Cody]

And 6:35 I'm like, I don't know.

[Tony]

I'm in west.

[Chris Cody]

On the spectrum of disappointment is Jeremy. Because quite honestly, between us, I didn't.

[Dan Le Batard]

Even want him there.

[Chris Cody]

I had to invite him.

[Roy]

Also keep in mind this is going to be content for the hockey show.

[Chris Cody]

So what, this is what? Content for the hockey show. What? The Dan LeBatard show with Stu Gotts. Owns a flippin team. We can win a flippin championship. Content for the hockey show. Trust me, your content for the hockey show is going to be fine. If you don't get one of your next six training skates in, this is the bullshit.

[Dan Le Batard]

Boy, I did not expect a Friday. We should all be in a great mood today. We should all be excited about tonight and I not expect this level our mascot of disappointment.

[Roy]

Mascot?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, Name the mascot. I don't know what goes with Cloney. Do we call him Cloney?

[Roy]

Oh, that's a nice name.

[Jeremy]

George.

[Mike Ryan]

George Cloney.

[Tony]

George.

[Chris Cody]

Cloney is a nice name. Yeah, go get, go get George Cloney. George Clooney.

[Dan Le Batard]

Bring Cloney in here. Whenever he's ready, bring him in here. He can hang out. He could support tonight's efforts. Bring it. There he is. Bring him in. Look at that. Oh, it's a little bit scary because he's a cyclone. You know, I'm a little bit. I'm a little scared. Oh, here he is. Hey, Cloney, my man. Come sit down right here. Just hang.

[Chris Cody]

Hey, Georgie.

[Dan Le Batard]

Here you go, George. Cloney. There he is.

[Mike Ryan]

Can he sit in? That is the real question.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's see.

[Chris Cody]

All right, he can sit.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just gonna be grilling me here.

[Chris Cody]

You know why we're not going to the super bowl this year? That costume. You're looking at a $20,000 costume worth every penny.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're a little disappointed, and I get it. Hopefully everything works out for you tonight. But let me see if I can try and turn that frown upside down. What's that slogan from anyone? Anyone?

[Chris Cody]

I don't know where it originated.

[Dan Le Batard]

Lionel Play World. Turn that frown upside down.

[Roy]

I'm sure they said that before.

[Tony]

Put that thumb in this direction.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was the big rival to Toys R Us growing up. Lionel Play World. Anyway, so it's KB Toys. KB Toys is a great toy store. Growing up, they had one Aventura. Mars. I love going to KB Toys.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, you went to. Wait, weren't you, like, 18?

[Dan Le Batard]

Wasn't 18. What?

[Chris Cody]

When the KB Toy store opened up in Aventura Mall.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, KB Toys, man. I was a little boy. They had KB Toys. It was right next to JCPenney, man. You don't know what you're talking about.

[Chris Cody]

I don't get a clue. That's right. I forget that Aventura Mall was like a mall before they totally redid it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, Aventura Mall's been around forever.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, but, like, it wasn't worth a note at all until they redid it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't like it now. It's not good.

[Tony]

Now it's far as hell from where we are. Aventura is so far. How do these still call that Miami? That's not Miami.

[Chris Cody]

That's hot.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's state, County.

[Chris Cody]

No, it's not day counties.

[Jeremy]

It is not.

[Tony]

It takes you two hours to get.

[Dan Le Batard]

It on the border anyway. Let me see if I could, you know, turn that attitude in a brighter direction. What if I told you guys that Giannis Antetokounmpo might be interested in the Miami heat? What if I told you that that's the direction that the reports are in right now? That Giannis. Their reports out there, that Giannis Antetokounmpo might be interested in the Miami heats. Would that be something you will be interested in?

[Tony]

I might be interested in that.

[Chris Cody]

Just give me a second. I'm gonna. I'm gonna pull out the dent that's in George's eye.

[Dan Le Batard]

So Giannis Antetokounmpo. This is according to Howard Beck, a very respected NBA guy. Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly likes the Miami Heat as a landing spot if he can't land in New York, quote. Again, in doing the honest story and talking to people around the league, Miami was suggested to me as a place Giannis would really love to land. If it's not New York, end quote. Cloney, how you feel about that? Giannis report right there. Come on now. Here's the thing. Here's the thing, all right? Giannis can wanna go to New York all he wants. I don't see how New York acquires him. And the reason I say is, okay, New York's obviously gonna give up Carl Anthony Towns, fine. But they don't really have anything else to give up. And there's no reason Milwaukee would be in on just Karl Anthony Towns because Giannis is a lot better than Towns. And you know, they're not any good right now with Giannis, so why would they want Towns? New York doesn't have any draft picks. They have no draft picks that they could trade. So if you're at Milwaukee, you can't just build by getting Carl Anthony Towns in return. So Giannis can want New York all he wants, but I don't see it as a realistic destination.

[Jeremy]

The packages that they could potentially offer would be Towns and some filler of role players that aren't the names you recognize and pick swaps. Or they could offer Kat and Mikel Bridges together. But. But to your point, Zaz, you need picks when you're trading away a superstar, particularly within the same conference, to a team that obviously would be elevating itself. You don't often see a trade like that not be for a haul for your future. So theoretically, a top prospect with high upside plus several picks and the Heat aren't the only team that can offer something like that. Like if Atlanta was willing to offer Jalen Johnson and several pick, that's like probably the best thing that could potentially happen. But it depends on what both the Bucks and Giannis ultimately want here and will they handle it the same way that Portland did and just send him wherever they feel like if he decides he wants out, will they be able to keep a Good relationship. Like, these are all the questions that you ask as this unfolds over the next, you know, few months. But we're three days away from essentially everyone being open to being traded from every roster that's starting on. On December 15th.

[Tony]

It's like, the question is Milwaukee still doing the thing where they're not listening to offers, even though they're obviously listening to offers? Because they have to listen to offers.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Every time a player has gotten to the point where he's going to request that trade, the team always starts with they're not listening to offers.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Tony]

So we're not listening to the 29 offers that are pouring into our inbox every single second of the day. And then I love the reports. Like, Golden State says, hey, we'll trade you Draymond.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now, hold on. Everybody's like, okay, hold on a second. When you say Golden State, like, what does that mean? Golden State says there's been.

[Tony]

There's been conversations, said that Golden State would offer Draymond Green as part of a trade.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, so what you originally said, you made it sound like Steve Kirk on. From a microphone said, yeah, we would trade Draymond for.

[Tony]

I mean, basically type for Milwaukee.

[Jeremy]

By the way, when we're talking about picks, like, this year, they have a pick, it's just whichever one is the worst of their pick. And New Orleans likely to be their own pick. But if you look forward in the next few years, years, they're not going to have a 2027 pick. They're going to have the least favorable of several different teams. Picks. In 2028, they don't have a pick. In 29, they're going to have a pick swap with Portland in 2030. So they have some draft picks available to them. But the real likelihood here is they're going to be looking for some draft capital, because even if they struggle over the next few years, their picks aren't going to be great. Now, that is where you could convince yourself if you're on the Knicks side of this. Well, if their own first round picks are going to be swapped with other teams, they might as well end up with the worst possible pick, because who cares, right? If you get a bad pick, the other team's just going to take that from you. And you might want to remain competitive, but normally, the way this all ends up working itself out, these teams are looking for a giant haul in return for their superstar. So whether that ends up being, like I just mentioned, if it's Jalen Johnson in Atlanta, there are other teams I don't know if they make these offers, but I don't think that they would do it either. Like, that's the thing. I think Atlanta's in the space presently where they've decided, like, that's their guy.

[Tony]

Johnson could be the best player in the Eastern Conference in three years.

[Jeremy]

Right. And I think that they'd be more likely to move Trae Young as a piece to a team that thinks that could take them over the top or. Or dismantle things around it so they can build around Jalen Johnson. Then they would be willing to move him in exchange for Giannis to pair with Trey Young. That's where you look at the Miami Heat and you say whatever their best offer is may actually end up being, at the very least, near the best offer that Milwaukee can get. And if that's one of the two places that Giannis would want to be, that's where you go. But the weird part about all of this has become like, normally this show and Heat Twitter are doing all of the hope trafficking right now. We've all been sort of like resigned to Giannis won't end up here. And this is all coming from national voices. Howard Beck is not a guy who's.

[Dan Le Batard]

Funny that you're saying that because I haven't seen a ton of it from Heat fans either on social media where it's like the Heat to get Giannis. They should do this.

[Chris Cody]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard if Daniel Day Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, come on. Yeah, I would be aggressive description. I mean, what is it? What is that?

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm just saying.

[Chris Cody]

That's just saying what? That's mean. I see that photo of Daniel Day Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming. Lincoln, and you know what I do amin stugats? I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do. Lincoln, who you outed the other day. Don't make this a rejoin.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. Why does Mike look like Nick Cage on skates in this?

[Tony]

It's a very con air, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

You look like lanyard at Roy's Skate Around. And look how confident I am upright on my skates, ankles not turned thin. You know why? It needs the sleeve. But honestly, it looks a little bit more like Frank Kaminsky.

[Dan Le Batard]

And look, you got the lanyard in the cart. You belong.

[Chris Cody]

I look like Mr. 305 eats there.

[Tony]

Shout out to George.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, shout out to George. We like George. George went to the last battlecore championship that we were in. We lost that one. We're 11 in the battle Court finals. Not George Richards. You're such a mark, dude. Get who.

[Jeremy]

What a.

[Chris Cody]

Who the hell is George Richards?

[Dan Le Batard]

What a mar. No.

[Chris Cody]

We love George.

[Tony]

I don't know who that is.

[Dan Le Batard]

Roy, you don't know that fool.

[Tony]

Roy, I don't know that fool.

[Chris Cody]

I'm making a personal appeal. It would mean a lot to me and Chris. I feel like I'm speaking for Chris here. May I?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, you may.

[Chris Cody]

We want you there. We want you. We want Anit. We want Claire. We want the Bellamies. It's. We want them all there at the Magic City front time.

[Mike Ryan]

Bellamies.

[Tony]

Yeah, but Roy wants to go skate.

[Jeremy]

He'd rather skate than go to the battlecore championship.

[Chris Cody]

That's embarrassing.

[Roy]

I'll be there.

[Chris Cody]

In spirit.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dirty fake out.

[Chris Cody]

That was a good psych. That was a good psych.

[Jeremy]

Mike, I have.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good for you. That was a good psych.

[Jeremy]

I know I can't make it.

[Chris Cody]

That's great news.

[Tony]

Yes.

[Chris Cody]

And. And.

[Jeremy]

And I'm sending my replacement. Jason will be there.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, I love your brother Jason.

[Jeremy]

He'll be there in my stead.

[Dan Le Batard]

Your brother is really good.

[Chris Cody]

Does he need a plus one?

[Jeremy]

I'll ask him.

[Chris Cody]

Jason Tache can do whatever he wants around these parts. He is a okay with Me. So.

[Jeremy]

Terrific.

[Dan Le Batard]

So Jeremy explains there what Milwaukee would want in a potential Giannis trade, and here's where Adam Silver, the softest commissioner in all of professional sports, is really screwing the Heat. Heat. All right, because the Heat only had, like, the Heat can realistically put together a package for Giannis, all right? A package that starts with Kello, where, of course, you're going to throw in Tyler Hero most likely, as well. And, you know, we'll give you Nico Jovich, too, but you want to have the opportunity to give all the picks, and the Heat only have two tradable draft picks right now. Why is that? That's because the Hornets and the NBA screwed the Heat, all right? And like, Tony, you understand how this works? Like, why?

[Tony]

It wasn't even a screwing. It was a royal screwing.

[Jeremy]

Zaz.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's right. They screwed the Heat. And what's Adam Silver doing about it?

[Tony]

Sitting on his hands.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nothing. Nothing. That's his move. Do nothing. He's doing nothing. He's doing nothing.

[Tony]

Some people do something.

[Chris Cody]

He did nothing.

[Dan Le Batard]

He does nothing.

[Chris Cody]

This is gonna get figured out, right? No.

[Dan Le Batard]

No.

[Jeremy]

Why?

[Tony]

What faith do you have in getting figured out?

[Chris Cody]

And it's just so unfair.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, it's very.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's very unfair.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Maybe there's a memorandum we can send, like, hey, guys, this is unfair.

[Tony]

A memorandum of understanding?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, one of those. Oh, don't get me started on that. I was listening. Memorandum, dude, Memorandum. I was listening to an Ivan Meisel interview on. It was actually pretty interesting. Ivan Meisel wrote a book about Notre Dame, and he is also on the College Football Playoff selection committee, and he joined a podcast.

[Dan Le Batard]

Didn't he used to be, like, a reporter for espn?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, he.

[Mike Ryan]

How many CFP podcasts have you listened to in the last couple weeks?

[Chris Cody]

I've listened to a lot of them. You're one speed guy, right? Yeah, I'm 1.75. Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

But I never do that. Should I do that?

[Chris Cody]

Your ears are just 1.5.

[Tony]

You figure it out. 1.75 is.

[Mike Ryan]

2.0 is a little crazy, but 1.75.

[Chris Cody]

I read a book about Garth Brooks allegedly being a serial killer in, like, a day. So, anyways, Ivan Meisel was on this podcast. It was Gene Wojakowski. Gene Wojajowski or Wojkowski.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think it's Wojciechowski.

[Chris Cody]

I think it's a Housekey. I think it's Houski, Pat Fordy and some other guy. And Ivan Meisel was on it. And this is the first time that I've heard Anybody from the College Football Playoff selection committee do an interview? And as you know, Ivan Meisel made news recently because Notre Dame's bookstore canceled an appearance because he wrote a book on Frank Leahy, the Notre Dame coach. So whenever Notre Dame came up in the class.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, that's not why they canceled it. They canceled it because he's on the committee and Notre Dame got left out.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Ivan Meisel, by the way, was not happy about that. And they have since rescheduled. In fact, Pete Bavaqua, he reached out to Ivan Meisel to apologize because the bookstore was acting independently. Ivan Meisel was ready for all the smoke. Any hoodles? Ivan Meisel gave keen insight into the selection process. And I thought I would come away encouraged by it. I was more gaslit than ever because.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, well, he recused himself, right?

[Chris Cody]

He did. Anytime the Notre Dame Fighting Irish would come up, like, a light would go up on his laptop. He's barred from talking about Notre Dame because he wrote that book.

[Dan Le Batard]

Light would come up on his laptop.

[Chris Cody]

A light would, like, they're all in this meeting room, and anytime they talk about Notre Dame, a light comes up on his laptop to signal to all the other committee members, like, yeah, he can't be here. There are certain tiers of access. He had access to remain in the room. Some people have to recuse themselves completely and have to leave the room entirely.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, yeah. Isn't that what happened with Ward Manuel a couple years ago with Michigan?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, he. Ivan Meisel was able to stay in the room. Just. He would have to be, you know, zip up the lips. So Ivan Meisel was there and he was explaining, like, the whole, like, Miami, Notre Dame, because it defies common sense that no one in that room until Sunday was like, guys, these two teams played and Miami beat them. But he was genuine in that the head to head never came up with Miami, not. Not once. And, guys, what are we? What the are we?

[Dan Le Batard]

You don't. You don't believe him?

[Chris Cody]

So the way, like, I sincerely believe.

[Dan Le Batard]

I do believe him, someone can come out and say, that's not true.

[Chris Cody]

I believe him, but this is where I lost so much faith in the process. His argument for, like, let's say the penultimate episode was byu in between Notre Dame, who was ahead of byu, and Miami, and the way that they would genuinely look at it is, well, we think BYU is better than Miami, and we think Notre Dame is better than byu. And that's like, when you hear that in a vacuum, you're like, okay, but Miami and Notre Dame are 10 and 2, and Miami beat Notre Dame. This is common sense. How can BYU be better than Miami but Notre Dame be better than BYU if Miami beat the team you're saying is better than byu?

[Dan Le Batard]

That's transitive theory.

[Chris Cody]

That's right. The transitive property. This is common sense. This has applied in AP rankings since the dawn of the AP rankings. Yet for whatever reason, these 13 people never thought until Sunday that this was ridiculous. It boggles the mind. And I came away saying, thank God for this weekly show. Thank God for it. Even though it's like a dog and pony show. Even though it was part of the problem that Notre Dame rightfully has with this process. It holds people accountable because in that room, those folks. Clueless. They're clueless. And I like the fact that there is a weekly show to hold people accountable. So you can get outraged and. Yeah. Does it form outrage? Absolutely. Hundred percent. That's part of the deal. But some of that outrage is warranted and it could actually bring about change.

[Dan Le Batard]

In all seriousness, instead of having these athletic directors and people who we. We, you know, don't nest. We don't necessarily believe are the most informed, why can't they have, you know, some of the top college football media people who we know are well aware of everything that goes on with all these schools and these teams and what have you. Like, why does it have to be these, you know, these athletic directors who we don't necessarily trust?

[Chris Cody]

It should never be an athletic director. I don't. I don't understand why they're. It should be. Even though I can't be top college football media, it should be like 13 Ivan Meiselles.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Tim Kirchen, I.

[Chris Cody]

There is such a conflict of interest with an AD being in that room. This is such a transient.

[Dan Le Batard]

There should not be a scenario where, in this case, it's Ivan Maisel. There should not be a scenario where someone has to recuse themselves from a conversation.

[Chris Cody]

There is like, you know, nads. Very rarely do they stay at one school. They have. They've. They've all gone through some sort of climb. They've been at other schools. They all know each other. They all have relationships. When you're having an SEC conversation, you can't have the chairperson getting daily calls from Greg Sankey because he's the athletic director at Arkansas. This is beyond stupid.

[Jeremy]

Szaz.

[Mike Ryan]

You know ads.

[Dan Le Batard]

No.

[Chris Cody]

Well, you know about them.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, yeah, I know about. But I don't know those fools.

[Chris Cody]

You know about them.

[Dan Le Batard]

I know about them. But I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to conversate and hang out with ads.

[Chris Cody]

Suffice to say they don't. They're not soup to nuts over there. In their administrator role. They have a climb. They go to other schools. They get recruited over by headhunters and they put them in place over there. It's asinine that you have athletic directors in this room. What keen insight would an athletic director have over, say, Desmond Howard? This is stupid.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's what I'm saying.

[Chris Cody]

What, like what are your quality. I understand why Mark Dantonio is in there. I understand why Chris Alt is in there.

[Dan Le Batard]

And by the way, why is an athletic director spending so much time watching other teams football games as opposed to paying attention to his athletic department? Like his job.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, that was another thing. I don't think they watch these games. I that was like he made a whole big deal about the Saturday. Like we watched the noon game, then we took a little break and they skipped the sec. They didn't sit there for the SEC championship. They went back for the Big Ten title game. No wonder Alabama stayed where they're at. They didn't watch it together. What is this process? Who Let him speak, Jeremy.

[Dan Le Batard]

You got the Mack Daddy offer for us.

[Jeremy]

Well, I've been doing some research here into the protections on these picks.

[Dan Le Batard]

Go on.

[Jeremy]

And why the Heat can't trade four first round picks. They can only trade two right now what this is is in 2027, the pick that they have going to the Hornets and the Terry Rosier Kyle Lowry.

[Dan Le Batard]

Where Adam Silver is just sitting around his lottery.

[Tony]

Sham trade, by the way.

[Chris Cody]

Sham trade.

[Jeremy]

Okay, but even, even with the sham trade, this is where I'm at, Jeremy.

[Dan Le Batard]

You'll admit Adam Silver sitting around doing nothing.

[Jeremy]

Oh, it's garbage. It's garbage the way that this is being handled. But this is.

[Mike Ryan]

I think it's sham straight.

[Jeremy]

This is the interesting part of what.

[Dan Le Batard]

A sham trade or a sham trade.

[Tony]

Steve Martin too.

[Jeremy]

The, the Hornets and the Heat could negotiate to unprotect that pick in 2027. So officially that pick would convey in 2027 and the Heat could trade 26, 28, 30 and 32.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, that's not true.

[Jeremy]

That is true.

[Dan Le Batard]

You can't trade back to back years.

[Jeremy]

What did I just say?

[Dan Le Batard]

26, 28. You just said. But they're going to give 27. That would be back to back years.

[Jeremy]

You can you. I know they are in the.

[Chris Cody]

That is if they convey.

[Jeremy]

If they convey. If they unprotect this pick in 27, the Heat will be able to.

[Chris Cody]

To move.

[Jeremy]

That's been the conversation.

[Dan Le Batard]

They won't be able to trade 20.

[Jeremy]

Picks, so it may be the other way. It would be 27, 29, 31, 33 at a certain point.

[Dan Le Batard]

So if they unprotect 27 and it's going to convey there no matter what, then 31.

[Jeremy]

There's a scenario here in which the Heat would be able to trade four picks. Yeah, I'm a little.

[Dan Le Batard]

Adam Silver gives the Heat their pick back.

[Jeremy]

Not well. Okay. Either way, what I was. What I was going toward is the Hornets, just like the ACC commissioner, need to do the right thing. The Hornets need to negotiate in good faith this time, not in bad faith. Not like Dan Lebatard yesterday in his argument.

[Dan Le Batard]

Bad faith, bad.

[Jeremy]

They need to negotiate in good faith and help the Heat get to a space where they can have more picks available, even if it's just a second round pick swap, to be able to help them have the most draft capital possible. And if they do, you're offering essentially everything that's valuable in the cupboard except for Bama to buy.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm getting worried about George Cloney because that feels like our air conditioning cut off here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, it's a little hot.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, it has to be hot.

[Dan Le Batard]

He hasn't moved in a few minutes. Oh, okay.

[Roy]

All right.

[Mike Ryan]

How sweaty are you?

[Chris Cody]

Is it sweaty under that?

[Mike Ryan]

Come on, a scale of 1 to 10, how sweaty he is. I don't think he can hear me.

[Jeremy]

Zaz.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, you gotta ask him.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, ask him how. How sweaty he is.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yo, how sweaty are you?

[Mike Ryan]

Scale of 1 to 10?

[Dan Le Batard]

Sweaty, sweaty.