Local Hour: Clicks & Prayers (feat. Greg and Roy)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz — Local Hour: Clicks & Prayers

October 10, 2025 – From the Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, with Greg Cody, Roy Bellamy, Billy, Mike Ryan, Christopher, Pablo, Jeremy

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Episode Overview

This Local Hour episode blends the usual irreverent, rapid-fire banter around sports, South Florida, and internal show drama. The crew debates when it’s time to retire (with Greg Cody as the target), navigates jersey-wearing etiquette for sporting events and press boxes, deeply analyzes an MLB playoff moment, and riffs on the Philadelphia Eagles’ controversial "tush push" play. It’s a classic blend of humor and insight, with memorable moments of self-reflection and absurdity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Greg Cody's (Non-)Attendance and Retirement Musings

[01:35], [10:01], [36:57]

• The crew opens with Greg Cody’s absence. Cody, age 71, is now officially only supposed to work two days a week but is often absent even on those days.
• They joke about Cody’s recurring “I’m 71!” as an excuse—spurring a broader discussion about self-awareness and retirement in sports.
  • Billy: "Once you get to the point that you say 'I'm 71' as a way to not want to work, perhaps it's time you retire." [02:42]
  • Mike Ryan: "But he's been saying it since like 67 though, right?" [02:53]
• Greg Cody joins later via Zoom, explaining he’s “just very busy today” and defending his attendance:
  • Greg Cody: "I just happen to not be on your show. So naturally, everything is centric around you. So you assume I'm not working. I'm working very hard today." [32:18]
  • Jokes about unlimited vacation, going on cruises, and getting paid for days he skips.
  • Discussion ends with Greg referencing his health:
    • "I'm also going through, you know, a bit of a health situation right now, and it's just difficult... It's nothing I want to talk about right now." [40:22]
  • Banter about “thoughts and prayers” mutates into “clicks and views.”
    • Greg Cody: "Yeah, I want clicks, clicks, write a column about it. I want podcast downloads and thoughts and prayers in that order." [40:54]

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2. Jersey Etiquette and Press Box Behavior

[03:47], [04:15], [31:10]

• The panel goes deep on jersey-wearing etiquette, especially for adults and media members.
  • Roy’s habit of wearing his own name on jerseys is discussed, as is the jersey his daughter Rose made him.
  • The question arises: Is it okay to wear a show-branded hockey jersey into the press box?
    • Billy: "Roy, since I've known him, has been the only person here who would be willing to wear his last name on a jersey at a sporting event. None of you would do that." [04:26]
  • Mike and others debate if wearing jerseys with your name is childish as a grown-up.
  • Roy: decides to save the special jersey for Saturday instead of the weekday game. [31:02]
  • Greg Cody: defends him: “If I want to wear a Greg Cody show podcast hat on my head, I'm gonna do it, and nobody's gonna say anything." [32:18]

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3. Costume Fiasco and Jeremy's "Offensive" Look

[07:55], [08:36]

• Jeremy’s punishment costume (intended to imitate a Cardinals fan who went viral) unintentionally crosses lines, sparking a round of jokes about unintentionally offending multiple groups.
  • Dan: "It's at least three. We should have thought this one through. It's actually a little funny that it's happened to Jeremy." [08:27]
  • Jeremy tries to explain that his painted face, though black and red, isn’t blackface.
  • The panel riffs on “you look like you stormed the Capitol,” highlighting the confusion over the intent of the costume.
  • Jeremy: “You can put blackface face paint on without it being blackface. It's part of my face.” [08:51]
  • Mike: “Jeremy looks like he stormed the Capitol, if we're going to be honest.” [09:28]
  • Ultimately, everyone agrees: “It’s not good.” [33:05]

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4. MLB Playoffs Deep Dive: Dodgers vs. Phillies Choke-Job

[11:38], [12:23], [18:30], [24:55], [28:09]

• Billy launches into a detailed, almost obsessive, breakdown of a pivotal Dodgers-Phillies playoff game, specifically strategy around pitching to Shohei Ohtani and the game’s dramatic ending.

  • Rich analysis of bullpen decisions, star power vs. execution, and how tiny errors can end a season.
  • Billy: “In terms of star talent and roster construction, there has never been a baseball team as good as these Dodgers.” [12:23]
  • Dan: “So was it the right move to walk Ohtani?” [15:07]
  • Jeremy: “That's the best argument for pitching to Ohtani is there's just so much more strikeout in his bat.” [18:30]

• Kerkering’s Choke: Billy and Dan explore the final painful moment for Phillies fans: an unforced error (throw to home not first) by reliever Orion Kerkering ends the season.

  • Billy commiserates: “It was the Phillies losing the series because Kirkering made a mistake with the bases loaded in extra innings.” [24:55]
  • Billy praises Kerkering’s postgame candor:
    • Kerkering Audio: "Once the pressure got to me, just like that. Once the pressure got to me, I, I don't hear that very often." [29:16]
  • Billy: “We talk about choking moments all the time. You never see them this obviously where a guy simply panicked.” [27:56]
  • Mike: (“Tua” joke)—Le Batard reacts to openness from players about mental stress: “Something TUA is going to say in the next couple weeks. ... That guy is a real Chatty Cathy now with all of his fears..." [30:09]

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5. Eagles’ “Tush Push” and Football’s Boring-but-Effective Plays

[44:08], [45:16], [48:07]

• The show closes with a loud debate over the Eagles’ contentious “Tush Push”—the unstoppable QB sneak—and whether the NFL should ban it for being both dangerous and aesthetically awful.
  • Billy: “There’s 11 minutes of game action in an average NFL football game. It ain’t three hours, it’s 11 minutes when you do the tush push four straight times.” [43:34]
  • Dan: "I just don't like that we're talking about banning something that one team is excellent at. Yeah, it seems unfair..." [44:08]
  • Jeremy: “According to the league's internal data, there was a 0% injury rate on the Tush push last season.” [47:07]
  • Billy: “It’s just watching a farm machine churn up a harvest for no good reason.” [49:13]
• They note historical precedents for rule changes in sports for the better aesthetics and entertainment.
• Pablo: “Visually, it looks like people are getting hurt because of the way that things are lined up.” [45:55]
• Dan and Billy agree the play is ugly—while Dan wants to see someone actually stop it in a big moment before legislating it out.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

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On Retirement and Work Ethic

• Billy [02:42]: "Once you get to the point that you say 'I'm 71' as a way to not want to work, perhaps it's time you retire."
• Greg Cody [37:41]: "That's one of the reasons I'm trying to cut back on work, not increase my...work level."

On Candid Admittance of Failure

• Kerkering/Postgame Presser [29:16]: "Once the pressure got to me…I just thought it was a faster throw…the pressure got to me…I choked."

On Jersey-Wearing and Press Respect

• Billy [04:26]: “Roy, since I’ve known him, has been the only person here who would be willing to wear his last name on a jersey at a sporting event.”
• Greg Cody [32:18]: “If I want to wear a Greg Cody show podcast hat on my head, I'm gonna do it, and nobody's gonna say anything.”

On the “Tush Push”

• Billy [43:34]: "There’s 11 minutes of game action in an average NFL football game. It ain’t three hours, it’s 11 minutes when you do the tush push four straight times. ... No one likes that except Philadelphia."
• Dan Le Batard [44:08]: "I just don't like that we're talking about banning something that one team is excellent at."
• Jeremy [47:07]: “According to the league’s internal data, there was a 0% injury rate on the Tush push last season.”

On “Clicks & Prayers” (The Episode’s Namesake)

• Greg Cody [40:54]: “Yeah, I want clicks, clicks, write a column about it. I want podcast downloads and thoughts and prayers in that order.”
• Dan Le Batard [41:13]: "Yes, clicks and views!"

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Section Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------|----------------| | Greg Cody’s Reliability & Work | 01:35 – 03:37 | | Jersey & Press Box Etiquette | 03:47 – 05:27 | | Jeremy’s Costume Incident | 07:55 – 09:07 | | MLB Playoff Analysis (Dodgers) | 11:38 – 19:03 | | Pressure & Choking Moments | 24:55 – 30:29 | | Greg Cody Remotely Joins | 31:10 – 34:12 | | Tush Push / NFL Debate | 44:08 – 49:13 |

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a quintessential hour of “Le Batard Show” mayhem—smart, self-aware sports commentary undercut by relentless nonsense and navel-gazing. From debates over when to hang it up (Greg Cody’s “I’m 71!”) to the agony of playoff failure (the Phillies’ collapse), and wrestling over rules and aesthetics in football, the crew showcases their signature blend of deep dives and unserious digressions. The notable through-line: Candor—whether it's admitting to choking, facing your age, or looking for “clicks & prayers” instead of sympathy.

Listen for: Show staff drama, playful callouts, and the relentless search for what makes sports (and this show) human and ridiculous.

Transcript

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[Billy]

Chris, is your father late again today?

[Christopher]

It seems so, but he's been stressed this week so I can text him.

[Billy]

What? What's he been stressed about?

[Christopher]

He's. He threw at me. I'm 71 years old. He covered a hockey game. He did two shows and he may have brought up that he's only paid for twice a week here. I don't know. That's something between you and him, Billy.

[Billy]

What are you laughing at there?

[Mike Ryan]

I was just. I'm not super like following the Panthers yet. So is the hockey game three days ago.

[Christopher]

It was Tuesday night.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, well, you know, takes time to 71, that's, you know, big age.

[Billy]

So we've talked before about like the self awareness on people when it is in sports that they realize they need to retire. The old defensive end for the Dolphins when he was playing for the Raiders, Trace Armstrong, he'd watch himself on film and he'd be like, ooh, I've got to quit your dad saying I'm 71. When being asked to work a day after we had a meeting about caring like you're. He seems ready to retire.

[Christopher]

In his defense, I didn't see him in that meeting though he may not have heard it.

[Billy]

No, but I'm just saying in general, he, he should do what he wants. He is 71. But once you get to the point that you say I'm 71 as a way to not want to work, perhaps it's time you retire.

[Mike Ryan]

But he's been saying it since like 67 though, right? Like he's. I'm 68 years old now. I'm 69. I can't keep doing this. So the 71 doesn't change all that much.

[Billy]

Is he tired because the hockey season just started. So what's he headed for? He didn't have time to shower. Like he was already too tired to shower after the first hockey game of the season. So where are we with him? Like we are watching the end of this career. Correct. Where we're going to broadcast the end of his career if he's already saying I'm 71 and I've worked twice this week.

[Dan Le Batard]

He has to recover from a 5 o' clock hockey start two days ago.

[Billy]

That's what's being alleged, I think. Like get him on the phone. Is he coming in? Do you know? Because I know your father over the years, like once he starts with this, he's liable to just not show up.

[Mike Ryan]

Wait, so he missed Game 2, which was last night, right? Because like Roy left at like noon yesterday because I got a Panthers game. We're like, what? Like why did to leave so early for a hockey game?

[Billy]

Roy. Roy wore that jersey that Rose gave him to the hockey game. Right? Because Roy.

[Christopher]

No, he didn't.

[Mike Ryan]

That was a big question. I wish it was in so we could ask him because we were debating back here, is he going to wear that or not? Because like it's a great commercial for his hockey show. But then there's also like no jerseys in the press box. So we were kind of conflicted.

[Christopher]

Remember this is a guy that told us and admitted that he picked his daughter up and walked into school in full hockey gear during one before one of his training sessions.

[Pablo]

We actually are going to be able to ask Roy because I think he's not coming in for the show, but he's coming in for his show later.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes, that's right.

[Pablo]

So there's that.

[Mike Ryan]

I think he wore jersey with a blazer on top. This is business.

[Billy]

I'm guessing that he Was very happy and very proud of what Rose gave him yesterday. It was a beautiful jersey that she had made that celebrates the hockey show. I'm guessing he wore it to the Panther game. You guys don't agree with that? You guys think that he. Roy, since I've known him, has been the only person here who would be willing to wear his last name on a jersey at a sporting event. None of you would do that. No. There's no one else in the history of this company who would actually do what Roy does. 10 years ago. His back. His name is on the jersey on the back, and he proudly wears it out. None of you do that.

[Dan Le Batard]

No. We're grown ups.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Christopher]

I mean, the oddest thing he does.

[Mike Ryan]

If we have to, we will. I don't have to.

[Dan Le Batard]

There's never a scenario I have to.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, sometimes, like, you're gifted a jersey.

[Christopher]

Like, we played a media softball game once with the Marlins, gave us jerseys with our names and a number on it. So that I wore for that day. Haven't worn it since, still in my closet.

[Dan Le Batard]

I saw Billy at college gameday a couple weeks ago, and he was wearing a Gil FIU jersey.

[Mike Ryan]

That is fair. I did do that, because I wore. What I did was I was wearing the Miami Vice edition jersey, but it had my last name on it. I had to decide what to wear. My dad was so nervous when I was going in an FIU jersey to college game day.

[Pablo]

He's like, take that off right now.

[Mike Ryan]

People are gonna be fighting. I'm like, they are not gonna be fighting me about an FIU jersey. Like, nobody cares. I can't believe it.

[Billy]

He was worried for your safety.

[Mike Ryan]

He was worried that I was going to be an irritant at college, because I was. And I was explaining to him, like, you don't understand. People go. And you just represent. It's a celebration of college football. You go, you take a banner, a flag of whatever college you're representing. It's not a big deal. And I was also, like, they're playing the Gators. There's going to be so many more Gators fans and, like, FIU people that are trying to.

[Billy]

He was worried about hooligans. Like, he was worried about hooligans.

[Mike Ryan]

I think he was worried about me potentially inciting hool. Hooliganism by chanting paws up at people as I walked by them.

[Christopher]

I'm with Billy's dad on this. You don't wear another jersey when you're going to. You have to when you're going to a Game for with two teams. You wear those two teams?

[Mike Ryan]

No, it's college game day. That's a different situation. Maybe college game day. Maybe they're in my hometown. They came. It was a big one. F IU had a big one that week. They lost, but.

[Billy]

So your father was worried that you would go.

[Mike Ryan]

He wore an orange shirt and I was offended. I said, what are you wearing? What am I wearing?

[Billy]

What?

[Mike Ryan]

What are you wearing, sir?

[Greg Cody]

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[Mike Ryan]

Let'S go.

[Greg Cody]

For a break the way on the chains to raise the cup we'll be standing on our heads till we need a max at our eyes Hockey is backjack Hockey is back Jack.

[Billy]

Hockey is back Jack. KBM will be us.

[Greg Cody]

Enter ice.

[Billy]

We run a weird company here, so I don't know if Greg Cody is showing up for work. Please call Roy. I'd like to ask him if he wore the jersey to the game last night. Where The Panthers became 20 and Marchand continues to cement himself as a Florida legend whose name we don't know how to pronounce. Don't know if it's Marchand or Marchand. We'll probably figure it out before he's done. Jeremy, the wokest among us is offending how many different groups of people today with his costume? How many different people is he attempting to offend?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's at least three. We should have thought this one through. It's actually a little funny that it's happened to Jeremy.

[Christopher]

Oh, it was a wild card.

[Billy]

He chose it.

[Jeremy]

I did.

[Billy]

I don't think he knew what he was choosing at the time. I think that he thought he was choosing one thing, but certainly he wouldn't have chosen something that was at least partially blackface. Right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, oh, I mean, we don't want to say that part out loud.

[Jeremy]

You can put blackface face paint on without it being blackface. It's part of my face. For the audio audience, I'm by the red. Remember that Cardinals fan that the yellow. All right, everybody.

[Mike Ryan]

And the weird ponytail that he has for some reason too. That birds video team, please put up.

[Jeremy]

The comparison of the guy who went viral. The Cardinals fan. Please help me. Help me.

[Billy]

Okay, so there he is. There is the punishment.

[Pablo]

I also hate that one too.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

That one makes me feel a certain type of way.

[Billy]

That guy. Guy's hat is also Red when he leaves the stadium. Stadium as it should be.

[Mike Ryan]

Jeremy looks like he stormed the Capitol, if we're going to be honest. Multiple groups and races that are finally. I think, taking offense, by the way.

[Jeremy]

You can't be both offended on that end and then also say I look like I stormed the Capitol is a derisive thing.

[Christopher]

Pick.

[Jeremy]

Pick a side.

[Billy]

Well put, Jeremy. You hadn't considered the consequences of your punishment, but I do salute you for.

[Jeremy]

No, I'm pretty sure I know the consequences. I have my face painted as a cardinal.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not going to have you talk down to me on societal issues today, pal.

[Billy]

Greg Cody. Is he coming in? Do we know how to text?

[Christopher]

He's not coming in. He'll hop on Zoom soon.

[Mike Ryan]

What?

[Christopher]

And that's all he'll give us? He was not in the car.

[Dan Le Batard]

He just skipped.

[Billy]

He's scheduled to work today. He's.

[Christopher]

He is 71.

[Billy]

That's what he's. That his argument is I'm 70. It's a good argument, honestly. But I think we need to finally have a conversation with your father about whether he's thinking about retirement. Because once you're telling people who are relying on you, I'm 71, I'm simply not coming in. When did he inform us of this? Just now. Just like it wasn't even the courtesy of doing it last night. He's tired at the end of a workweek, so he's not coming in.

[Christopher]

Last time I spoke to him was Wednesday, and he did mention to me, oh, you need me Friday, huh? I only get paid for two days a week, but I'll see. I'll see if I can make it work. Now. Here we are. Couldn't make it work.

[Mike Ryan]

He couldn't make it work.

[Billy]

But does he not take into account that while we only pay him for two days a week, there are often and times we don't get either of those two days. Like, he's not. He's only doing it when it's more than two days because it's an average of two days a week that we're paying him for. But he's very often not here at least one of those days. Sometimes two of them. Like, for example, when it's just, hey, cruise. We're going on a cruise. It's not vacation time. It's not when anybody's going on vacation. It's just I wanted to go on a cruise. Why? Because I wanted to drink 15 beers a day on a cruise ship bar tab instead of in my garage magic package.

[Christopher]

15 is putting it, like, also unlimited vacation.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, we're starting to see what happens when you tell people that, and then they start taking advantage of it.

[Billy]

Starting to see what happens when, that.

[Jeremy]

Is, you guys get vacation.

[Billy]

I want to talk about one of the games last night and not the one that everyone's going to be talking about because I assume everyone's going to be very worried about the Eagles and start talking about the personality change of the New York Giants, which is a little bit fun and a nice little fumigation on everything that New York sports have been that they've got a Giants team with a couple of personalities that you could get excited about. But the game I wanted to talk about yesterday, as the Dodgers continue to play what is a totally unfair baseball game, they have an overwhelming All Star team and they've underachieved this year because it's the best team ever assembled.

[Christopher]

Like.

[Billy]

And I know we can sit here and argue about what is the actual end results. Best team, a Mariners team won 111 games. But in terms of star talent and roster construction, there has never been a baseball team as good as these Dodgers. And the game they played against the Phillies yesterday and the series. The Phillies are a really good baseball team. Lizardo pitching with Snell, pitch for pitch is something close to a miracle because Snell is a good deal better than Lozardo. But that series was very well played, and the pitchers in that series are extraordinary. So that even an All Star team like the Dodgers has all sorts of trouble scoring runs. But before we get to the error at the end, because I really was hoping that was a series that would be won instead of lost because it was really quality baseball. Schwarber and Harper and Castellanos or Castellanos. These are not chokers. Trey Turner, they're not chokers. The pitching is extraordinary in baseball. And what the Dodgers have where they could go to Glass now who's an ace, and they could just throw him out of the bullpen because they've got just aces all over the place. Made it so you have to play perfect baseball against that team to beat them. And this is the situation that they got into where they're fighting over every little run. Okay, before the ending, this is what happened, and it's why it's impossible to play the Dodgers. Maybe baseball happens to the Dodgers, but this is why it's impossible to play them. Louis Rdo got knocked out because they got Freddie Freeman and Freddie Freeman hit a double. And Freddie Freeman's their third best player, third best hitter. I like Mookie Betts better. I like Ohtani better. But it's. We can argue about it. Freeman's exceptional in the inning where the Dodgers are down one nothing. And you got to do everything right against this team. They've got runners on second and third, and first base is now open. And the guy pitching for the Phillies, they're bringing the best reliever in baseball in the seventh inning. It's a high leverage situation, and they know the Dodger, top of the order, is coming up in a second. They've got first base open. What do you guys do? It's Duran. He throws 99 mile an hour sinkers. He's not a hittable person. But first base is open, and Ohtani's coming up. Ohtani is 1 for 17 in the series with eight strikeouts because the Phillies pitching is really good, too. It's not because Ohtani is a choker. It's because this happens in baseball. You can have four or five bad games. He's 1 for 17 with eight strikeouts. And Duron is as good a closer as there is in the game. What do you do, guys? It's lefty against lefty on Ohtani. What do you do? He's 1 for 17. First bases, you're welcome. I wouldn't have. But I understand that they did because.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, then what happened?

[Billy]

Well, so they walk him. But the reason I wouldn't have walked him, I got lefty against lefty. I've got the best reliever in baseball and Ohtani struggling in the Series. But the reason I wouldn't have walked him. There are two outs. The only reason I wouldn't walk them is because now you're leaving no margin for error on the next hitter. Who is Mookie Betts. It's Mookie Betts.

[Mike Ryan]

He's been bad lately, though. Like, it's. I think it's the curse of Billy Pixie in fantasy, but, like, he was not good this season at all. And Lucardo, by the way, you said before, like, pitch the gem. Like, he has it in him. Like, he was a highly. He was a highly regarded prospect. And when they traded him, the Marlins traded for him from the A's. Like, he. He struggled a little bit, but he lived up to it the last couple years, and he had a great game last Series.

[Billy]

Also, the reason the Phillies traded for him is because he has the potential in that arm. He's not Snell. He's never going to be Snell. He went pitch for pitch with Snell. He'll never be Blake.

[Mike Ryan]

Snell, he's, he's Snell. Like every other Snell season where Snell seems to like just take off sometimes. Yeah, he's very up.

[Dan Le Batard]

What happened? What's the right answer?

[Billy]

We're getting there in a second because this isn't even how the game was decided. It's just how the Dodgers got the game into extra innings. You say Mookie Betts hasn't been that good. Okay, I'll grant that to you. But what Mookie Betts does is he's got extraordinary plate discipline. And what I've now done to my great closer is I have the bases loaded and you can't make the mistake against Betts. So now it goes to a three, two count and you can hear that place going crazy. And Betts has such extraordinary plate discipline that he takes a pitch that everyone else in the league would have swung at. You're not looking at a bases loaded situation in Dodger Stadium, wanting to be the hero and taking a pitch that's at your chest when the reason the Chapman's good this season because everyone in the league is swinging at that pitch now. Every single person and Bets lays off it to tie the game. In a game you cannot make a mistake in because one run is going to decide it.

[Jeremy]

Duran's first career bases loaded walk. And just to go back, it was Sanchez was the lefty that had been in and it could have potentially been in at bat with Ohtani. But Durant is a right handed pitcher, so it was a righty against a lefty. Their idea was we don't want to let Ohtani beat us with two runners on in that scenario. Don't let him get hot and approach bets.

[Dan Le Batard]

So now you definitely walk him.

[Christopher]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

What's the answer? They walked him. They did. Was that the right move?

[Jeremy]

Well, then they walked Bets and the run came in.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, okay.

[Mike Ryan]

Moogie's hitting.385 this round. Small sample though.

[Billy]

Forgive me. You got that right, Jeremy. It was righty left as well. And, and I understand why you walk Ohtani there because everybody in the world probably would have walked Ohtani there, but you're not allowing for 1 for 17 with 18 strikeouts. And this is the best pitcher he's going to face. Like there there's not someone better than the guy. He's struggling in this series. And this pitcher who's throwing 99 mile an hour sinkers, what you've just done to yourself is you've created the situation where bets is plate discipline can beat you because you can't make a M you've got when the 32 pitch is coming, Betts knows that it's going to be something near or in around the strike zone. It's not going to be in the dirt. It's not going to. It's going to be around the strike zone. And he tempted him with the most tempting pitch and Bets laid off it.

[Jeremy]

That's the best argument for pitching to Ohtani is there's just so much more strikeout in his bat. And when you have a guy in Duran who is so capable of striking out hitters, you saw Ohtani later in the game strike out against Lizardo. If you approach that at bat the right way, you can get that strikeout. Now, righty against lefty, it is a different thing. But Bets is a guy who has not only that plate discipline, but not nearly as much swing and miss. And so the probability just goes up. Even if he just puts the ball in play and it's an error, you're putting yourself behind the eight ball.

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Billy]

Hey Mike.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Jeremy]

It's been a partner of this show since I was 10 years old and.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Jeremy]

I mean, to think that people were celebrating at my bar mitzvah with Miller Lite as they were a partner of this show is pretty incredible.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Jeremy]

What's that?

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Jeremy]

I still can't believe that we say it every week. I can't believe it.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Billy]

Don LeBatard punctuate this segment with what is your strike three call?

[Christopher]

Strike one would be strike.

[Mike Ryan]

And then you stand up and you.

[Billy]

Give a good point to the right stugats.

[Christopher]

That's same for strike, dude, but strike three, you get down low, you got your hands behind the catcher. All right? The right arm goes up into the air, and then you finish it with the punch. The right arm flings way up into the air.

[Billy]

I wish I could see that. The audio's great. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Pablo]

It might have been a good thing to pitch Ohtani because he's had this thing in the last couple of bats where he wants to crush the ball every, every time he gets a pitch and he wants to play hero ball where I'm like, I'm taking this ball out. And it happened in the Lizardo at bat where he's just taking massive hacks and he's like, first pitch, I'm, I'm.

[Greg Cody]

Trying to hit it out of the.

[Billy]

All right, but my, my point on all of this, because I'm, I'm micro analyzing something here that isn't even what people are going to look at as deciding that game or that series or ending the Philadelphia season. The reason that I'm doing it, though, is because there is against that baseball team, an all star team, all star team. Those are not the best players in America. Those are the best players in the world. That is an international baseball team. And what got decided at the end was a dribbler from a home run hitter. And it wasn't the Dodgers winning the series, it was the Phillies losing the series because Kirkering Orion Kerkering made a mistake with the bases loaded in extra innings. And I was feeling late in that game. You tell me if you guys ever feel this for a fan base. You felt it when it's your team. I felt bad for the Phillies, the entire extra inning scenario, because you're on the road and now your fans are in a room where the water's rising and any one of the Dodgers ends your season with a swing, you're watching the bottom of innings when you haven't scored in the top of innings and they've got a one game lead in the series. So as the pressure rises on a team you have to play perfect baseball against because they're better than everyone. It's the base. It's the best roster ever constructed. It Bajes Cuban player shipped in last year. Like, hasn't played much B. Hasn't played much Major league baseball. He comes up with the bases loaded and he hits a dribbler. This is a home run hitter. He hits the ball the least you can hit it.

[Christopher]

Karine made his pitch like he made the pitch he wanted to make in that spot.

[Billy]

But this is a home run hitter in a lineup filled with home run hitters. As the Phillies are watching and their fans are watching. Any guy can end our season with a swing. Like, when is the last time. I guess the. I guess you guys felt this during a little bit during game seven of the. Of the Stanley cup playoffs against McGregor last year. Because David McDavid, excuse me, that was two years ago. When's the last time you guys felt like your season could end in a moment where you're watching, where you're watching something you deeply care about and you're the bottom half of an inning from a team at home? Like, I really felt bad for Phillies fans watching that because they're playing this team and any swing can end the season of great expectations. Having several seasons ruined that had great expectations.

[Dan Le Batard]

I guess it happened with the Panthers too. Eastern Conference semifinals against Toronto when they went down 20 in Game 3.

[Christopher]

That's why the fourth line got to finish the season because they played so well in that game.

[Dan Le Batard]

That game went to overtime. That was a little nervous.

[Jeremy]

Nelly.

[Mike Ryan]

Opening Day 2017 Ian Hap the reason.

[Billy]

That that doesn't qualify is only because there were more games after that your season would feel like it ended. But it hadn't actually ended.

[Christopher]

3.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean that's tough.

[Billy]

Down 03 is not. Your season's immediately over. I went from hoping this team was going to make it to the World Series to one swing and I'm finished. It's just a pressure that I as, as someone who considers himself weak in these circumstances, it's a pressure I would not want on me because here's what happens late in the game. And I mean I really do have to get credit to Kirkering for the way that he talked about this because he is somebody who will have a name in Philadelphia now that will be associated with a moment got really tense for you. We had great hope and you simply choked. Like this is identifiable in his own voice. Obvious choking from what happened. The pressure of a moment got to him and he did something that nobody does. He says afterward that the pressure of the moment got to him. So the bases are loaded and the Dodgers you can hear in the Sound on the call. The way the dribbler goes back to the mound. And all of a sudden 60,000 people in Dodger Stadium are rising up and you can hear the noise and the pressure. The play there is. You pick up the ball and you throw it to first base. Real muto. His catcher is pointing to first base. Don't throw it to me, just point. He's pointing to first bas. And Kirkering just chokes on the moment and throws the ball home. Throws the ball home poorly and the game and the season is over and it's your fault. And what happens to him is he immediately bends over sick to his stomach. And if he could have, he would have just thrown up right there on the field because of how bad he felt. Cuz it's as identifiable as a choking moment. We talk about choking moments all the time. Time. You never see them this obviously where a guy simply panicked.

[Christopher]

I feel like in baseball, though, when you bobble a ball and you just have this panic of, oh, shit, I need to go quicker than a normal routine play. Like I can. I mean, I'm not going to do the thing I've played like, I can relate to that panic of just like, oh, shit, I made an error. I'm not thinking anymore. And you just throw it out of the way.

[Billy]

I talked for seven minutes earlier this week in that series about a wheel play the Dodgers ran because they're not going to panic.

[Jeremy]

And it was beautiful.

[Billy]

They're not. They're not. They're not going to panic because their guys have been in this situation every postseason for 13 straight postseason. So they get the benefit that Jeter got where if I'm always playing here, it feels like just another game. The pressure doesn't get ratcheted up to a place that suffocates me. But can we hear Kerkering in his own words here? I'd like to just hear. You just never went. Tell me the last time you guys, after watching someone choke, saw the athlete raise his hand and say, yep, I choked off my foot just kind of once. That pressure got to me. Just thought it was a faster throw, the JT a little quicker through than trying to cross body at the Bryce. So just throw.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you. Did you hear them calling, telling you.

[Billy]

To go to first at all?

[Dan Le Batard]

Or were you just in the moment that you wasn't even just in the moment? Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Can you.

[Billy]

Can you see JT pointing in that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Moment or is it just kind of looking.

[Christopher]

Just kind of looking up?

[Greg Cody]

Just be ready to go.

[Billy]

I knew a lot of guys at nerv.

[Greg Cody]

Nick was one of the first ones there.

[Billy]

Just one of those guys say, you in that room, just keep your head up. It's honest mistake. Just, it's baseball happens.

[Greg Cody]

And just keep your head up, you'll be good for a long time to come.

[Billy]

It's not my fault. Just that opportunity to score. Have you guys heard an athlete say before? Once that pressure got to me, just like that. Once the pressure got to me, I, I don't hear that very often. I don't hear that level of self awareness very often. Usually the bravado of the moment makes it so that you mask that you hide, you try to lie, you lie your way around that. I wasn't scared, I wasn't worried.

[Mike Ryan]

Something TUA is going to say in the next couple weeks. I'm telling you right now, that guy is a real Chatty Cathy now with all of his fears and every. Oh, that guy says better than me. I don't care if I throw five interception. Oh, the moment's too big for me. Like, oh, I don't remember what happened yesterday. Today it's coming. I'm telling you with this Tua. I don't think I've turned on him yet. But we're headed in that direction. $300 not well spent on that frame.

[Billy]

We've got. Roy and Greg Cody are both here bombing in from home. I've been told that Greg Cody is irritated that we're calling him because he's 71 and he's very busy and he has a lot to do today. So I'll start with Roy. Roy, how did you, did you wear, did you wear the jersey to the lovely jersey that Rose gave you? Did wear it to the Panther game yesterday? No, I plan on doing that on Saturday. So why, why did you not wear it yesterday when you were already wearing it?

[Mike Ryan]

No, because I'm wearing it today for the hockey show and I just decided, you know what? I'm not, I'm not gonna wear it today. I'm just gonna save that for Saturday.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are you going to the press box?

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Don't they have like a no jersey policy?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, it's.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not a National Hockey League team. I'm not really sure.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not like supporting Ottawa Blazer on top, maybe.

[Billy]

Okay.

[Mike Ryan]

Or underneath, possibly wear a shirt on top? Yeah, sure, I'll do that, Billy.

[Billy]

Thanks, Greg. What are your thoughts on this Roy Bellamy who may at one point in the Panther arena have a dedicated place named after him. He should the Roy Bellamy legendary Memorial press area. What is your ruling as a journalist on whether or not Roy is allowed to wear a jersey in the press by.

[Greg Cody]

Well, I'm working behind the scenes to get Roy on the media hall of fame that you see as soon as you leave the elevator and go to your seat. What kind of jersey is he wearing into the press box?

[Billy]

It is the hockey show. It's a hockey jersey, but it's not of a team. It's of its own show. And when you say you're working behind the scenes, is your only effort there to be behind the scenes and not actually doing anything? Because I don't believe that you're working behind the scenes, and you're not working in front of the scenes today. You're not working, working.

[Greg Cody]

Well, I am. I'm working very hard. I just happen to not be on your show. So naturally, everything is centric around you. So you assume I'm not working. I'm working very hard today, which is one of the reasons why I couldn't be in the studio with you. I think it's fine for him to wear a shirt promoting the hockey show. If I want to wear a Greg Cody show podcast hat on my head, I'm gonna do it, and nobody's gonna say anything.

[Dan Le Batard]

Roy, how are we feeling about Jeremy's overall look? I don't. I don't know. Why? Well, I got a feeling. Why I think I thrice offended. Yeah, that's good luck, Jeremy.

[Greg Cody]

What is he, a cardinal?

[Billy]

Wait, Roy.

[Christopher]

Yes. Don't.

[Jeremy]

Thank you.

[Christopher]

Wait, look at the hair, though, Roy.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Yeah. That's not good, man.

[Billy]

It's not good.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not. It's not good. Of all people, he's supposed to be an ally.

[Mike Ryan]

Mm. It feels.

[Billy]

It feels appropriated. It does, Roy, thank you. I still don't understand your jersey wearing habits. I thought if you didn't wear it yesterday, you wouldn't wear it at all. Instead, you're saving it for Saturday.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a big game Saturday, Dan.

[Billy]

Okay. Yes. Last night was a nice one too. Two and. Oh, the Panthers now, are they. They ruin the life of Rick Tockit and his. A great. A great hockey name. They ruined the Philadelphia Flyers opening debut of the illustrious Rick Tockit because Brad Marchand is now a local legend, beloved by all, including an arrogant and wrong Mike Ryan, who has to walk back all public comments already did.

[Dan Le Batard]

We buried the hatchet.

[Billy]

I don't think he should forgive you, honestly.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's all right. That's his prerogative. He's. He's our he's our rat.

[Billy]

I don't believe that the audience should forgive you either. Roy. Thank you. I have some more questions for Greg. Greg, you stay there. Appreciate your time and it was a lovely jersey that Roy that Rose made for you.

[Mike Ryan]

Thank you Rose.

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[Christopher]

For I was probably like that kind of thing.

[Billy]

Something.

[Greg Cody]

Okay no, the home run call was that kind of swing. That kind of thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

STS oh, it's a good call.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you. And plus, it doesn't matter who's hitting it. Like you're not tailoring it to a particular name. You know, all that jazz. You know, you don't got to do that. You just. Oh, that would be a great call. Up, up and swing. That kind of thing.

[Billy]

This is the D. Levatar show with the st. Greg, why aren't you in today?

[Greg Cody]

You were scheduled schedule. That's funny. Well, first of all, Dan, I, I know you don't like major in math or anything, but I'm paid now to be on the show twice a week. And you may recall I was on the show earlier this week for two days. And so the third day I consider to be sort of optional. I'm not paid for a third day. I love to you and, and I love being on the show despite conversations like this one. But I was just very busy today. And so I said to my son Christopher the other day, I just can't be in Friday. I got to do this, this and the other. And, and he was fine with it. And so here we are.

[Billy]

You said, I'm 71. That's, that's what you said. I'm 71.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. Well, that's one of the reasons I'm trying to cut back back on work, not increase my. Okay. Not increase my work level. But today happens to be an extra busy day. I've got a. Right around the corner from this. I've got a book related zoom interview with Ron McGill. There's a deadline approaching for that book. And, and so that's weighing on me. I've got a Greg Cody show, a major podcast interview coming up right after McGill, and, and so I'm just very busy today. Dan, you know, the, the world doesn't revolve around, around you and your show as much as you'd like it to.

[Billy]

Larry Little.

[Greg Cody]

That's correct. We have Larry Little, the Miami legend, the Dolphins hall of Famer on our next podcast episode. And I'm really looking forward to that. I've known Larry a long time. I don't know him super well, but I know him well enough to really admire him.

[Billy]

It is funny to hear you say that the world revolves around me when you did some very basic math there. That forgets some things. I pointed this out before you came on with us, which is, yes, you're paid to work twice a week, but what about all the weeks when you don't actually work, work and just go on a cruise and we don't get the two days.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, you mean the weeks that I actually dare to have the vacation that I'm entitled to?

[Billy]

I'm just saying you don't work twice a week, every week. You often don't work the two days every week, correct?

[Greg Cody]

No, that's not true. I think if you. I think if you do the research on that, you'll see that ever since I. I made my new deal to basically increase from one day a week to two, too, I've been religious in my ardor to. To fulfill that and be in twice a week. This just. And. And normally I would do a third day if possible, but this is just a day that it didn't work out for me on this end. If I had a staff, if I had, you know, a chief of staff like you do, to organize, tie up all my loose ends and do all this and that and the other, then there wouldn't be this problem of miscommunication.

[Billy]

I was arguing before you came on here that once you're saying, I'm 71 and by Friday, I'm tired of working, that's around the time that you should start thinking about what retirement looks like. No.

[Greg Cody]

No, because I'm really enjoying my. My life right now. My and. And my job. Jobs, plural, are a big part of that life, and I want to continue doing it as long as I'm healthy enough to you, which hopefully will be well into the foreseeable future. But at the same time, you do have to cut back on certain things. I'm also going through, you know, a. A bit of a health situation right now, and it's just difficult.

[Billy]

Where did that come.

[Mike Ryan]

Sorry, Greg. Thoughts and prayers.

[Billy]

Yes, yes.

[Greg Cody]

Well, no, it's nothing that serious. It's nothing I want to talk about right now, but seems serious.

[Dan Le Batard]

Serious.

[Christopher]

Wow.

[Greg Cody]

These are things that weigh in.

[Billy]

A bit of a health situation is what you're hitting us with at the end. A bit of a health situation. Nothing serious, but thoughts and prayers.

[Greg Cody]

No, no. Thoughts and prayers. No, I don't want them.

[Dan Le Batard]

Actually.

[Greg Cody]

I don't want thoughts or prayers.

[Mike Ryan]

What? You want thoughts on work? If we gave. How about views and prayers? Views down.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I want clicks, clicks, write a calm about it. I want podcast downloads and thoughts and prayers in that order.

[Billy]

I. I think David Cross is the comedian who says instead of thoughts and prayers, like incantations and chanting or something. So for Cody, should it be clicks and views?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, clicks and views.

[Mike Ryan]

You'll get. Like, in lieu of flowers, please donate to this. In lieu of flowers, please.

[Greg Cody]

Yes, that's exactly right. Exactly. Please read my NFL Week 6 picks. In lieu of thoughts and flowers.

[Billy]

Flowers week. W E A K. I saw what you did. I Think you're not coming in because you had your worst week ever with picks and you've been derailed by it like you've been. You are weaker today and weaker this week than you normally are because you had your worst week ever picking games.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I was 4 and 10 straight up. I rallied a little bit. I had had a few dogs with the points So I finished 7 and 7 against the split spread. But I will tell you this. There were a an NFL record tying six games last week in which a team with a double digit lead blew it and lost. Including the Chiefs and the Dolphins and four others. I was on the wrong side of all six of those games. So my 4 and 10 could very easily have been 10 and 4. I don't make excuses for a bad week, but that was an extraordinary situation that I was on the wrong side of when six, six teams blew big leads. It doesn't happen. I mean it was record time.

[Billy]

Thank you Greg. Appreciate the time. Appreciate you taking, taking this weekend to rest so that you can be strong and give us your two days a week next week. We will talk to you next week.

[Greg Cody]

That's all I live for. Thank you Dan.

[Billy]

The the game last night, the Giants blew a double digit lead and then won the game late because everyone is talking today in football about the fact that the Eagles have a legitimate problem. They're the worst second half football offensively. Like they're all. It's not, it's empirical, it's not up for debate. They're 32nd in all the categories of they can't score in the second half and on top of that they've got that boring play. Everyone hates that they ran four straight times and it was the last time they scored in that game. It injures their players, it injures other players. Nobody wants to watch it. There's 11 minutes of game action in an average NFL football game. It ain't three hours, it's 11 minutes when you do the tush push four straight times. Times. No one likes that except Philadelphia. Right? There's no one watching football, no one watching sports who likes to see four straight rugby scrums, one of which the officials again can't officiate correctly because it should have been fourth and six or fourth and goal from the six instead of the one because they jumped too early. Again. Is there anyone outside of Philadelphia who doesn't want that eradicated and all turned to dust cuz it's dangerous, it's illegal and worst of all ball. It's boring. Like it's unbelievably boring to have. You got 11 minutes of game action and they're giving you four plays where you're just really. You're going to take half the quarter and this is what you're going to do. You're just going to fart your way up the field a yard and a half at a time because you've got some sort of play that nobody likes.

[Dan Le Batard]

I just don't like that we're talking about banning something that one team is excellent at. Yeah, it seems unfair and I understand it's. It's boring and I understand the arguments for it and I do think, think that ultimately you will get your way. But I like that there's this thing in the sport that is nearly unstoppable that people hate because it's going to set up a moment where their season is on the line and someone is going to stop it and it's going to be absolute scenes.

[Billy]

It's been stopped before. It's. It. It doesn't actually work every time. It works at a 90 plus percent clip, but it has been stopped.

[Dan Le Batard]

But I'm talking about a big moment.

[Billy]

I'm asking you guys, do you believe that anyone wants to see that play run four straight times so you can watch what had been an exciting offensive football game? Surprisingly exciting because that the total in that game was 40. Because no one expected scoring, because the Giants are good at defense and because Philadelphia is bad at offense. It's the last scoring the Eagles did in that game was to run four straight plays that. That left players strewn on the field. You'll agree with me that it's a dangerous play, correct?

[Dan Le Batard]

The Tush push.

[Billy]

More dangerous than even football.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, it looks violent. I don't. I don't know what. I don't know if anyone's done a deep dive. Maybe Pablo can get on it.

[Billy]

People are getting hurt, Mike. Like, it is a place. It is a place that people. That Eagles get hurt.

[Dan Le Batard]

And people get hurt in football all the time.

[Billy]

Agreed.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know if, like this specific play has more. I'd like to see the numbers on that because that would help me. That would help change my mind. If you could prove to me that this play is more dangerous than other plays, I'd come around on it. And I understand that. I'm kind of like a dissenting voice here. I understand why people don't like it. I kind of like it because people don't like it. And it's just something that can't be toppled yet.

[Pablo]

Visually, it looks like people are getting hurt because of the way that things are lined up.

[Greg Cody]

Right.

[Pablo]

Like you have the guard super in and then like submarining underneath the defensive lineman, which obviously arms and legs could get caught, you know, in different things. It just feels like the Eagles run it and nobody really gets hurt on their team.

[Christopher]

Can I make a prediction? I think in the next few weeks we're going to see a play action.

[Billy]

No, they did it already two weeks ago. Two weeks ago they ran it easily into the end zone by just handing it to Saquon Barkley.

[Christopher]

That was a good idea by me, though. Yeah, it was ahead of my time, behind my time.

[Billy]

I'd enjoy seeing them throw to that Frankenstein Goddard out of that.

[Dan Le Batard]

He had a good game.

[Billy]

You guys do understand when I say whenever a league. I get your point, Mike. Why stop a play that only one is good at? But you do understand that whenever the sport suffers from an entertainment problem, esthetically what they do is they change the rules. Like that's, that's throughout sports. I could have made, I could have made the, the argument that when Michael Jordan was playing against the Pistons and they were just dragging everything into the mud, and later after that, Pat Riley was ruining things by making a bunch of Knicks games, 80 to 81 to 80 games, that basketball changed all its rules.

[Jeremy]

According to the league's internal data, there was a 0% injury rate on the Tush push last season.

[Billy]

Is that right?

[Jeremy]

Yeah, zero percent according to the NFL.

[Dan Le Batard]

Which I mean, to help contextualize. Oftentimes there is a clock management aspect to this, and we cannot ignore the possibility of players faking injuries on this to stop the clock. This play is available to everyone in the leak. I'm with you. But they're excellent at it. Now what I would like is to see the rules actually enforced a little bit better on this because it seems as though in part they're better because they're getting away with stuff. I don't like that. I like a straight up play. But Buffalo was the second best in the league. They, they, they did this a lot. And in a playoff game against the Chiefs, they famously got stopped and it was a big time moment. So I'd like to see this run its course and someone stop it before we talk about, like, let's get it away because it's, it looks boring. I, I, I don't like that either. Changing the rules just because one team is really good at something.

[Billy]

So Buffalo's not good at it because they're good at it. Buffalo's good at it because their quarterback is so big and strong that he can do some of the things that Jalen Hurts can do with his lower body. Because they say that Jalen hurts squats. What do they say? Squats, 600 pounds or something?

[Pablo]

Probably more than that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I, I don't. Yeah, they're good at it because they're good at it because they're the body type and the superstars that they have on their team. The same way that Philly's good at it because they have a really good offensive line and Jalen Hurt seems to be really good at this play.

[Jeremy]

From an aesthetic and waste of time perspective, it's almost like having to throw pitches on the intentional walk. Now you just put the guy on, right? So from an aesthetic perspective, it's, hey, if you have a quarterback whose athleticism and size can allow him to QB sneak for a yard, that feels different than what this is where you're wasting time and you're just doing this thing that's boring for everyone. Falling.

[Dan Le Batard]

Watch. No. It's such a loser. I can't believe I'm shocked we're having this conversation.

[Jeremy]

I am not a loser.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, no, no. A day after they get smoked, because I understand if they win the super bowl again and no one can stop it and it's like, oh, no. But like, there's a path to beat this. They look flawed right now.

[Billy]

This is why I'm bringing it up, though. Because what they did the most success the last time they had success last night is when they did that four straight times and made everyone in America hate them for reasons that didn't have to do with. It had to do simply with. That's no fun to watch. I've got 11 minutes of game action and I'm watching that for half a quarter, Four straight plays where they're going from the four yard line to the goal line because they're, they're. It's. It's just watching a farm machine churn up. Churn up a heart chart, churn up a harvest for no good reason. They never scored again after that. They did nothing in the second half after that.

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[Billy]

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[Billy]

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