Local Hour: Dan Says "The Chiefs Are Dead"

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Local Hour: "Dan Says ‘The Chiefs Are Dead’"

Date: September 16, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Billy Gil, Chris Cote, Greg Cote, Frank, Eric, and others

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Overview

This “Local Hour” episode captures the signature blend of sports debate, comedic infighting, and Miami-centric riffing as Dan and the crew tackle NFL storylines after an eventful weekend. The main theme: Dan’s assertion that the Chiefs and their high-octane offense are "dead"—no longer what they were—with the group dissecting whether Kansas City’s offensive woes mark the end of their dominance, while also exploring Baker Mayfield’s late-game heroics, the evolution of NFL kicking, and the misery of Miami football fans. Listeners also get the usual banter about show logistics, office politics, and personal gripes—providing both laughs and sports insight for fans and newcomers alike.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Show Logistics and Absurd Office Politics

[01:36–05:13]

• Greg Cody arrives late, sparking a round of playful abuse and “veiled threats” about Miami traffic and the show’s start time.
• Greg claims he’s “checked out” of competitions due to believing they’re rigged, referencing a recent soup contest loss ("I don't think that it's a fair playing field." – Chris Cote, 04:54).
• The group reminisces about past competitions, shadow shows, and inside jokes, highlighting the chemistry and ongoing mock-feuds among show regulars.

2. Follow-Up: The Case of Jeff Conine’s Handshake

[07:46–09:10]

• After multiple failed attempts to connect with former MLB player Jeff Conine, they receive a text confirming he enjoyed his appearance—but doesn’t remember anyone’s handshake.
  • “Did you enjoy your time with us? He wrote, yes.” – Frank, 08:26
  • “Who is Mike Ryan? ... I don't remember anyone having a memorable handshake.” – Jeff Conine via Frank, 12:12
• Mike Ryan humorously fires back: "I don't remember his either." (12:30)

3. NFL Recap: A Song for Football’s Return

[05:48–07:46]

• The team launches into a gleeful, tongue-in-cheek “football is back” chant—underscoring their excitement about the season and their preference for “big hits and quarterbacks.”

4. Baker Mayfield: From Bust to Clutch Performer

[12:13–17:17; 21:37–24:44]

• Dan argues Baker Mayfield may now belong on the short list of quarterbacks feared in late-game situations.
  • “[Baker Mayfield] is going to figure out a way on 4th and 10 … he’s one of the top five guys.” – Dan Le Batard, 13:33
• Discusses Mayfield’s revival: cut from the Browns, playing hurt, almost out of the NFL, then immediately engineering two last-minute victories with the Bucs.
• “He hasn't reinvented himself to the point—now you, you hear that name and you think, wow, that, that's a really good quarterback who wins.” – Chris Cote, 16:48
• The 2025 Bucs are the first team since the merger to win game-winning touchdowns in the final minute of their first two games (ESPN stat, 22:47).

5. Jim Harbaugh as an ‘All-Time Great’

[11:19–12:13]

• Eric suggests Jim Harbaugh’s rapid turnarounds at Michigan, 49ers, and now the Chargers put him in the “all-time great” coaching tier.
  • “Literally everywhere he goes...he turns around [a team] really quick.” – Eric, 11:55
• Dan notes Harbaugh smartly picked the Chargers: “the smartest choice...get the young quarterback.”

6. Quarterbacks You Fear in the Closing Minutes

[13:33–32:18]

• Dan, Greg, and the crew debate: who’s most feared in the clutch? The consensus shortlist includes Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, and Matthew Stafford.
  • “[Mahomes is] still the champ when it comes to last two minutes... until he gets dethroned.” – Greg Cody, 31:33
• Notable stat: Since 2023, Mahomes & Jake Browning have the same number of games with 320+ passing yards (15:05–16:47).
• Breakdown of Greg’s "Top 5" clutch QBs (start [25:25]):
  5. Matthew Stafford
  4. Baker Mayfield
  3. Josh Allen
  2. Joe Burrow
  1. Patrick Mahomes

7. Are the Chiefs’ Offensive Glory Days Over?

[26:06–32:33]

• Dan bluntly claims the Chiefs’ high-flying offense is “dead”—even as others argue Mahomes isn’t to blame.
  • “It’s ruined. Like I’m watching a quarterback who looks like all the other quarterbacks.” – Dan Le Batard, 27:49
  • “That team’s dead. That team no longer exists.” – Dan Le Batard, 27:56
• Counter-arguments: injuries, missing weapons, aged Kelce; but the group agrees KC is no longer “must-see” offense.
• Chris: “I don't think he's lost anything. I think his surrounding talent has hit a crater.” (28:56)
• Nevertheless, the panel is split on whether the Chiefs’ slow start means they’re truly “done” or merely retooling with a strong defense.

8. Dolphins, Texans, and the Value of Early Season 0-2 Records

[33:09–35:38]

• The gang contrasts KC’s more “forgivable” 0-2 start with catastrophic ones for the Dolphins, Texans, and Bears.
• Greg: “I’m worried [CJ Stroud] stinks”—likens him to other flash-in-the-pan rookies (34:27).

9. The Evolution of NFL Placekickers

[39:47–45:23]

• Aussies marvel at Dallas kicker Brandon Aubrey’s 64-yard field goal and the general trend of kickers pushing the limits of distance and accuracy.
• “Nothing has improved more anywhere across sports than the accuracy of kickers.” – Billy Gil, 41:34
• Anecdotes about straight-on kickers, steel-toed shoes, and barefoot kickers, and the rise from 65% career accuracy (Super Bowl-era Dolphins) to modern standards.
• “Could [the Cowboys] get a first-round pick for Brandon Aubrey?” - Bill Barnwell, via Billy, 43:57
• The table debates whether long kicks are actually good for the NFL’s watchability.

10. Classic Le Batard Show Detours & Local Takes

[46:33–48:25]

• Play the "Mike McDaniel sound" re: Miami's woes; more jokes about Dolphins misery, with frequent “truth bombs” from fan-favorite Big Mac:
  • “I'm tired of looking at that sad Greer McDaniel.” – Frank, 48:01
• Entire segment underlines the brutal honesty with which the show treats local teams, especially the Dolphins.

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Notable Quotes

• “If you build a shack next to a railroad track, you can't complain about the lonesome whistle.” — Chris Cote on Miami traffic and studio logistics, [02:27]
• “I've been starting at 8:55 for over a year.” — Chris Cote, to Greg Cody, [03:04]
• “It's a predetermined result … I don't think there was any chance.” — Chris Cote on the show’s competitions, [05:11]
• “I thought Zaslow was going to give you the gift of winning a competition that I didn't think you should win because Mike decided to make my favorite soup.” — Dan Le Batard, [09:14]
• “Is Jim Harbaugh already an all time great coach?” — Prompt for show’s poll, [12:13]
• “When you need your quarterback to be doing that, [Baker Mayfield] can win games late.” — Dan Le Batard, [14:55]
• “[Patrick Mahomes is] still the champ when it comes to last two minutes. Who you fear. It's still Patrick Mahomes until he gets dethroned.” — Greg Cody, [31:33]
• “The offense is unaesthetically pleasing. They've ruined what it used to be to watch Patrick Mahomes play football.” — Billy Gil, [28:46]
• “We speak more honestly about the dumpster fire that is the Dolphins here than anyone in Internet entertainment.” — Billy Gil, [48:25]

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Important Timestamps

• 01:36 – Greg Cody’s late entrance and Miami traffic debate
• 05:48 – “Football Is Back, Jack!” song parody
• 07:46 – The saga of Jeff Conine’s handshake (and his noncommittal feedback)
• 11:19 – Jim Harbaugh’s greatness & Chargers as AFC West favorites
• 13:33 – Baker Mayfield’s clutch gene and post-Browns resurgence
• 15:05 – Stat of the Day: Mahomes vs. Jake Browning (320+ yard games)
• 25:25 – Greg Cody’s Top 5 “two-minute” quarterbacks list
• 27:49 – Dan’s “The Chiefs are dead” proclamation
• 32:18 – Debate about elite D and Chiefs’ playoff future
• 41:34 – The hidden revolution of NFL placekicking, Brandon Aubrey’s lore
• 43:57 – Could Brandon Aubrey net a first-round pick?
• 46:33 – Mike McDaniel’s “to win the game you must not lose the game” analysis
• 48:25 – Big Mac shares blunt Dolphins takes

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Episode Highlights & Tone

• Classic show energy: Spirited debate, quick irony, local bitterness and in-jokes about staffers and South Florida struggles.
• Memorable one-liners: Dan’s “the Chiefs are dead”, Greg’s deep concern for CJ Stroud, Billy’s kicker stats, and Big Mac’s doomsaying.
• Stat-heavy but light: The show mixes real advanced stats with outlandish opinions and comic timing, so listeners come away with insights amid the laughter.
• Miami misery: The show’s Dolphins coverage is both sharply critical and self-deprecating, matching local fan sentiment.
• National perspective: Despite the Miami slant, the show puts QB play, coaching legends, and the NFL’s trends in a broader, witty context.

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In summary:
The episode is a sometimes-chaotic, always-entertaining tour through NFL hot takes, backbiting among friends, and both statistical and comedic analysis—anchored by Dan’s bombshell proclamation that the Chiefs’ days of offensive magic are over. While listeners may debate the panel’s conclusions, they’ll appreciate the mixture of expertise, humor, and uniquely Miami perspective.

Transcript

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[Eric]

Well, you know, normally you would think that it's rude to laugh in someone's face. That's. That's a. It's very dismissive.

[Billy Gil]

It's rude.

[Chris Cote]

Yes. Thank you.

[Frank]

But.

[Eric]

Well, hold on with the thank you. Sometimes it's. It's deserved. Sometimes it's deserved. I mean, Greg, like we do a shadow show every day. You're not. You don't know that.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, I'm in once or twice a week, but those.

[Eric]

Once or twice a week. We always do shadow show. Right?

[Chris Cote]

Sure. Yeah. I can't, you know. Okay. This is directed not at you. Not sure where you live. I know where Dan lives. Okay. And I Know where he does his show.

[Eric]

It's a veiled threat.

[Chris Cote]

All right, listen here. If. If you build a shack next to a railroad track, you can't complain about the lonesome whistle. Okay? You build a studio in downtown Miami, the worst traffic city in America, and expect people to drive here through rush hour. And, you know, you can't complain about the lonesome whistle.

[Frank]

Doesn't rush hour start at 8:00am no, it's good.

[Greg Cody]

It's gotten earlier.

[Billy Gil]

Oh, no, no, no. At 6:30 in the morning at this.

[Frank]

Point, I know traffic is thick, but I would not even call that rush hour. That's not our rush hour.

[Chris Cote]

Our rush hour in Miami. It's like 6am to 10.

[Billy Gil]

Okay?

[Chris Cote]

This is.

[Billy Gil]

None of. This is the reason that Zasla was laughing, okay? And none of this as he gets off his lonesome whistle line has anything to do with the specifics of why Zaslo is laughing. This is why Zaslo is laughing. Greg comes in here and he says, doesn't the show start at 9? And I'm like, we've been starting. This is the sentence that made Zaslow laugh. We've been starting at 8:55 for over a year.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. Who keeps track of that minutia? It's true.

[Eric]

Radio people.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. I don't have the bandwidth for all the details. You know, again, I don't want to belabor it. I need a staff now. But, you know, we're doing the best we can. Pedaling as fast as we can on a small one man bike.

[Frank]

Again with a weird saying.

[Chris Cote]

Just that kind of thing.

[Billy Gil]

You know, he's so good at this that he doesn't have to worry about what time things start. Yeah, he'll do it on his own time. He'll do it his own way. And the rest of us will get used to it. There will never be any consequences, except that occasionally he'll get rage because he's 04 in all of his competitions around here.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. Okay. And there will be no more of.

[Frank]

Those, in Greg's defense. I mean, look, Greg, you can't control the fact that normally it takes you 45 minutes to an hour to get here. And on a given day, it might take two and a half hours to get here because of other people's driving, not your own.

[Chris Cote]

Jeremy is. If I could say more than 100%, I would. Although that's an annoyance of mine when people say I gave 110%. No, you didn't.

[Billy Gil]

You're celebrating, Jeremy. And I think that Jeremy was so eager to talk they didn't hear the news that you had right before he spoke, which is you said you're not doing any more competitions. You announced publicly that you're out on doing any competitions here because you're winless.

[Chris Cote]

No, not because I'm winless, because I don't think that it's a fair playing field. And I mentioned this on. On my podcast, which came out yesterday. I think it's. It's a predetermined result. Okay? I don't think it's not. I don't think there was any chance.

[Eric]

I had no evidence.

[Chris Cote]

No, I don't have any evidence.

[Billy Gil]

It's not true.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was instructed to vote against you, and I went against that trend because they said we need to make sure that this is rigged so Greg loses on his birthday.

[Frank]

Nobody said that.

[Billy Gil]

No one said that.

[Chris Cote]

Okay, I'll. It was implied my lawyer will depose Billy in case a lawsuit is brought. But, no, I mean, everybody knows it. You know, this is a preconceived thing, all right? It was Greg's birthday. It was Greg's birthday that day. Everybody figures they're gonna let Greg win. And. And, you know, that was the zig and you guys zagged, and everybody knew it.

[Eric]

Have you ever thought about leaving your house earlier in the morning?

[Chris Cote]

No, because I leave my house damn early as it is. I leave my house between 7 and 7:15. Ridiculous. Football, football, football. Football is back, Jack. Oh, my. We're waiting for so long. We're so damn excited that we put it in a song. No need, no check downs give me big hits and quarterbacks keep your fantasy team from falling off the track. Football is back. Whether on the ground or through the air when the chips are down and you throw a prayer when your team is primed and on The Hunt It's 4th and 10. You refuse to punt when the shoulder pads and helmets crack. That's how you know that football is backjack. Let me hear you say football is back, Jack. This high is wild and out of control and we're gonna ride it every week till we reach the Super Bowl. Don't need no checkdowns give me big hits and quarterbacks. If you say this game's the best, I'll say it's a gag. Football is backjack. Football is backj. Football is back. Football is back.

[Billy Gil]

Jeff Conine finally texted you back. Jeff Conine got back to you. We wanted to talk to him about whether or not he's got the strongest hands in the history of handshakes. And it took us two or three days to reach him. FaceTime, an assortment of things, but we finally have closure on this. Chris, what did we find out about Jeff Conine's availability or lack of availability?

[Frank]

On Friday? Sent him a zoom link with a text. Hey, we'd love you to pop on right here. That just kind of went unanswered. And so after. Right after the show, I'm like, all right, hey, you can respond just via text. Here's a couple questions. Did you enjoy your time with us? And do you remember how strong Mike Ryan's handshake was? So I have answers to both of those questions. Okay, first question.

[Eric]

Do you.

[Frank]

Did you enjoy your time with us? He wrote, yes. There you go. I feel like that's a win for us.

[Chris Cote]

What enthusiasm, you guys.

[Billy Gil]

But you guys thought. You guys thought. He did not enjoy.

[Frank]

I would say he was a tough book to read.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Eric]

I don't agree. And maybe that's because I was. I was sitting in the room here with Conan. I thought he enjoyed his time. Maybe it came across different.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are you a teacher's pet? Like, what's your role here exactly? Just agree with everything that Dan says. Shit all over.

[Eric]

Don't even start with me.

[Chris Cote]

Wow.

[Eric]

Don't even start.

[Dan Le Batard]

Such a great time in this. Jeff Konai is not listening to you. He doesn't care.

[Eric]

It's too early for you to be pulling this shit.

[Chris Cote]

No, it really isn't. I agree with Billy. I mean, you know, obviously, you. You voted. You. You were the. Decided. He got the memo against me, the super.

[Frank]

Back to the line.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Billy Gil]

Are you officially saying you're out on competitions? You're forever going to be winless around here in competitions because you're quitting the competitions because you think they're rigged when I'm telling you they're not rigged. When I was singing you Happy Birthday, it's because I thought Zaslow was going to give you the gift of winning a competition that I didn't think you should win because Mike decided to make my favorite soup. And I'm sorry, he. He tilted the scales in his favor by making what is my favorite soup? I argue that the Thai coconut soup is the greatest of all the soups. I'd argue. I'd argue that it's better than all of them.

[Chris Cote]

Did you taste the coconut?

[Billy Gil]

Here we go again with the coconut.

[Chris Cote]

No, I was just curious.

[Billy Gil]

But you're officially saying you're out on all competitions?

[Chris Cote]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. No question about it.

[Frank]

We'll find one for you to do again. Zaz, I doubt it.

[Billy Gil]

What is it that you're agreeing with Billy on? Are you just lining up against Zaslow?

[Chris Cote]

No, I'm not. I. You know, Zazzle's role on the show is to line up against me. I get that.

[Billy Gil]

That's not true.

[Eric]

Nobody's told me that.

[Billy Gil]

That's not true.

[Chris Cote]

Okay, all right. You all are painting me as somebody who's paranoid now. Okay? Yeah, I'm making everything up. Okay.

[Greg Cody]

All right.

[Frank]

The rest of this text. So I also wrote, do you remember how strong Mike Ryan's handshake was? His response? Who is Mike Ryan? He followed up. I don't remember anyone having a memorable handshake.

[Chris Cote]

Classic.

[Frank]

I told Mike this and his response was, I don't remember his either.

[Billy Gil]

All right, I'm glad we finally got to the bottom of that. A number of things that I wish to talk about from last night. Okay. Because a lot of people are talking about Tom Brady wearing a headset. And that's the most disastrous game Geno Smith's ever had. It's been 10 years since any quarterback had a game where they tried to throw down the field that much and didn't complete anything at all. That Chargers defense is quantifiably good. Obviously, Khalil Mack being hurt doesn't help anybody, but that defense is. Allow that. The average pass attempt against that defense is 3.2 yards. It's the best in the league by miles. And Zaslow with cream cheese on his face walked in here this morning and was willing, was willing to make a proclamation.

[Eric]

I think Jim Harbaugh is an all time great coach. I'm just looking at his resume. You see what he did, obviously at Michigan where they won a national championship. And by the end of his time there, they were always beating Ohio State. Go back before that. He took over a 49ers team. That was garbage. And I think it was by his second year with San Francisco, he had Alex Smith in the NFC Championship. The next year, he had Colin Kaepernick in the Super Bowl. And then he's in Los Angeles now with the Chargers. And they were whatever last year and now they look like they're going to win the AFC west this year. They are now part of his. Cheats aren't as good, you know, but the Chargers are going to be a really good team. It's only his second year there. Literally everywhere he goes, not only does he turn the teams around, he turns around really quick.

[Billy Gil]

Put it on the poll, please. Is Jim Harbaugh already an all time great coach? I I admire the choice that he made in choosing that as his landing spot when he had choices, because the smartest choice to make is get the young quarterback. Make sure that at that position you're solid. But the reason they won last night is not because of the quarterback. The reason they won last night is because their defense is so good. Let's put that game off to the side for a second though, because we'll talk about the Brady elements of that in a moment. But now that Brady's no longer on the field, he at one time was consensus don't leave him anytime. If you leave him anytime, you're going to lose the game. He's going to get down the field. Then he was replaced by Mahomes. Don't leave him any time. I'm wondering how close Baker Mayfield's now creeping into the conversation and I want to examine for a second just this show's history talking about Baker Mayfield because Baker Mayfield got swallowed by Brown's expectations. He decided to play Hurt when they had Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham. He was playing while hurt. He ended his career in Cleveland and nearly because he was playing while hurt, ended his career in general. If he does not have that Monday night game, meaningless for the rams for Sean McVay. I believe that Baker Mayfield never gets to start again. And now I'm willing to make the argument that at the end of games he's one of the top five guys. I fear that he's going to do what TUA couldn't against the Patriots, that he is going to figure out a way on 4th and 10 when they're blitzing a corner and there's no room on the field. And this is the other thing from last night's game that I found so interesting. The Bucs were primed to get beaten because their tackles were out and those pass rushers are good. Mike Evans was shut down. I know it said five catches for 50 yards, but when you can take Stingley, put him on Mike Evans and just know he's not going to get down the field, you've shut down one of the great receivers, a Hall of Famer of all time. Baker did not have a lot of help the in that game. What happened is first four drives, all scores by both teams. Then nothing happens the rest of the game. Nothing until the last five minutes. And Houston does the things that at home win a game and you got 4th and 10 in the opposing stadium and Baker Mayfield pulls it out. So I want to ask the group, make the list for me now that The Chiefs are 0 and 2. I still think Mahomes is on there and I still feel obviously anytime I'm on defense, I fear Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. But at the end of games, I don't fear them in appreciably larger way than Baker's going to figure out how to do something here. He's done it the first two weeks of the season and he routinely does it like obviously Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson are better quarterbacks. But I'm talking about a thing here that TUA doesn't have locally that Baker Mayfield clearly has. He can win games late when you need your quarterback to be doing that.

[Greg Cody]

I've got a top five list that I wrote down of guys that are that exact thing that you fear in the last couple of minutes of the game to make plays to win you the ball game. You guys ready?

[Billy Gil]

Give me just a second here to just get off some stats here because since 2023, this is a real stat. Give me the stat of the day music here because I believe that this is an excellent stat for stat of the day now that Patrick Mahomes is a dink and dunk quarterback. Start of the day, Start of the day. It is the start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. It is the start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the. It is the start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. It is the start of the day. There's no way the Buccaneers should have won that game. Like, honest to God, you're on the road. The Texans are trying to avoid. Oh, and two, and what I'm telling you, your main receivers getting shut down and your backup tackles are facing that pass rush. Here's the stat of the day games with 320 plus passing yards since 2023. Patrick Mahomes 3, Jake Browning 3. Who do you fear when I think off the top of your head, if I take Brady and Mahomes off the board, who's the guy now that you're saying don't leave him time late in the game?

[Eric]

Probably Josh Allen.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, I would have said Josh Allen. And I don't have the comparative stats. I do know that BAKER Mayfield since 2023 has had more fourth quarter and overtime touchdowns than any quarterback. And also this guy has just reinvented himself. I mean, Baker Mayfield was a laughingstock punchline, what, three, four years ago. He hasn't reinvented himself to the point now you, you hear that name and you think, wow, that, that, that's a really good quarterback who wins. Who knows how to win a game. That. That's teetering.

[Frank]

That's Stat of the Day, presented by Amazon Prime Video. Thursday Night Football is on. The Miami Dolphins take on the Buffalo Bills. Coverage begins Thursday at 7pm Eastern only on Prime Video.

[Billy Gil]

When did 7pm start for Amazon? Is that new or is that. Have they always been doing that? When I saw the 7pm start time.

[Frank]

That's coverage. Yeah, the broadcast.

[Chris Cote]

Okay. All right.

[Eric]

That's getting you ready for the game.

[Frank]

They have a damn good one there too.

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[Billy Gil]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Eric]

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[Billy Gil]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Billy Gil]

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[Eric]

Has Baker Mayfield reinvented himself or is it just. Hey, remember it used to take quarterbacks a few years to be able to play at this level.

[Chris Cote]

For me, he has, you know, and Sam Darnold has to a lesser extent. But I would put those two in the same category. They were seen as draft busts a couple of years in And Baker Mayfield.

[Eric]

Was running scout team in Carolina.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Frank]

Last night was so infuriating to watch that game. You have Baker who was available for everyone to have a couple years ago. And I'm sitting here with tua. You see the Texans fans booing CJ Stroud on a couple grads, on a couple drives. I'm like these ingrates. You don't know how lucky you have.

[Billy Gil]

Do I have it correct? Is this an accurate appraisal, what I'm about to say? Baker Mayfield was on a one year prove it deal because the Bucks thought Kyle Trask was going to be their quarterback. Do I have that wrong?

[Eric]

I think when Brady retired, the initial thought was true. Trask could be the guy.

[Frank]

No, he was brought in to compete that first year.

[Billy Gil]

It was a one year prove it deal. Trask wasn't drafted that high. But was Trask not viewed as somebody.

[Eric]

I think you're right.

[Billy Gil]

At the time people were saying, well, Baker will keep it warm for Trask, but this is not going to be Baker Mayfield's team. I really think that Baker Mayfield. What? I can't believe what I'm saying that Baker Mayfield was this far from being a backup quarterback to now he has gone right to the top of the list of the first two games this season. He's led game winning drives. And this is per ESPN here, the 2025 bucks are the first team since the merger to score game winning touchdowns in the final minute of their first two games.

[Eric]

Well, and how about this? Baker Mayfield is the second quarterback in the last 30 years to lead back to back under two minute drives to win the game in the last 30 years.

[Billy Gil]

Am I over second quarterback? Am I overreacting when I say I know it's recent. It's the first two games of the season. So obviously it's not. Daniel Jones is suddenly getting MVP talk because it's the first two games of the season.

[Greg Cody]

By whom? Who's getting mvp, by the way? Not to call people out in our industry, but I saw a couple of.

[Eric]

Weeks ago Speak their names, man.

[Greg Cody]

No, I don't want to say their names. I saw a very prominent show where a guy kicks field goals and kicks and gives money away.

[Dan Le Batard]

He was a player.

[Greg Cody]

No, I'm saying kicks field. Other people kick field goals. He gives money away. They had a topic on the show saying, is Daniel Jones the MVP 2 weeks ago? I didn't like that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Who do you think on college game day is watching you? No, no. Stealing your takes. Just out of curiosity.

[Greg Cody]

Nobody has.

[Dan Le Batard]

I know in the past You've accused Mina Kimes of doing such. So who on college game that's sitting around taking notes of your top?

[Frank]

Could be a producer stealing your feeding talent.

[Chris Cote]

Could be.

[Greg Cody]

All of a sudden PM has a. Has a topic. I have the picture of it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Pat McAfee is watching you to take you.

[Greg Cody]

I don't say him. Somebody could be.

[Billy Gil]

Pat McAfee has been saying since the beginning of the season that the Colts are going to win the Super Bowl. He's obviously every season in the tank for the Colts. Do you want to do your top five list now? Do we have Olis? These are the guys you trust the most, quarterbacks you trust the most at the end of a game?

[Greg Cody]

Yes.

[Billy Gil]

All right. Any Oli?

[Greg Cody]

Yes, one Oli. Not my official top five, but thank you, Chris, for bringing it up really quickly. Number Oli. Jayden Daniels.

[Billy Gil]

I think all of us should probably, if we're going to be analyzing football, also point out already two weeks into the season, what is it? 20% of the starting quarterbacks are hurt. Is it 20?

[Greg Cody]

Saw the graphic.

[Billy Gil]

It was like eight guys.

[Frank]

I was like, wait, when that guy.

[Billy Gil]

Get hurt, it's two games in the season and. And five quarterback starters are out.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. And one of them is not tua. That's sad.

[Greg Cody]

That's an upset. Number five, Matthew Stafford.

[Billy Gil]

Oh, that's true.

[Greg Cody]

Guy liking the grizzled veteran.

[Eric]

Got the gray hair going.

[Frank]

Lasers all over.

[Greg Cody]

Number four, Baker Mayfield.

[Billy Gil]

I put Stafford ahead of Mayfield, but.

[Greg Cody]

You put Stafford ahead of Mayfield.

[Frank]

You just put Mayfield ahead of Brady.

[Billy Gil]

No, no, no, no. I did not do that. I put him at the top.

[Frank]

You said the top. You said of all time quarterbacks, he's better than both Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes. It was amazing. You did kind of wonder whether Mahomes was still in there. I was like, of course he's still in there.

[Billy Gil]

He wasn't in there the first two weeks of the season. I wasn't expecting him to do shit at the end of games. Were you like, were you? Everyone's mad at the Eagles for being 2. 0 because of the way they're 2. 0. Like, look, that league, everything that's happened on defense in that league, that makes all of these quarterbacks go for 150 yards. The defenses have gotten so suffocating that they have ruined the entertainment value of Patrick Mahomes. Ruined it. It's. It's not partially ruined. It's ruined. Like I'm watching a quarterback who looks like all the other quarterbacks. When all I heard the Last three seasons was a complete hyperventilation from the broadcast media that felt like they were watching something that was more aesthetically pleasing than anything else in the league.

[Dan Le Batard]

But is it his fault? I mean Isaiah likely is out or not Isaiah. Xavier Worthy is out. Travis Kelsey can't catch. Like it's not Patrick Mahomes fault.

[Chris Cote]

Rasheed Rice is suspended.

[Dan Le Batard]

Exactly. I mean he's losing. He's missing a lot of weapons.

[Billy Gil]

Yes, that's true. And I saw him in a Super bowl get throttled. Not this last one, the other one against Tampa when he doesn't have his offensive line agreed on all counts.

[Chris Cote]

And Travis Kelce looks spent too. He looks like he's more worried about his podcast than he is catching.

[Billy Gil]

But he is a dink and dunk quarterback and I don't believe that. If Josh Allen and and Lamar Jackson had you mentioned likelys out, I can have them lose guys and they will have a variety of game. They would have a versatility required in today's game that might not make them look again as unaesthetically pleasing as what I'm watching from the Chiefs offense when what I was used to. Guys, you remember you never bet against the Chiefs no matter what the point spread was. And you assumed every game that they were going over 30 points. Points. That team's dead like that. That team no longer exists. The team that. All you know is that for a while.

[Greg Cody]

I mean that's like three years.

[Eric]

Three years.

[Billy Gil]

How's it been?

[Frank]

Dead for three? Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

No, Dan's 100 right?

[Billy Gil]

They almost three peated last.

[Greg Cody]

That doesn't matter.

[Frank]

But they did it, does it for.

[Greg Cody]

Way they changed the offense completely. They got rid of Tyreek Hill. They went to a dink and duck. They had two high safeties. They couldn't go deep. That was the whole point.

[Chris Cote]

Did they get to the super bowl last last year?

[Frank]

Three years in a row.

[Billy Gil]

They won two out of three.

[Greg Cody]

Change the offense completely.

[Frank]

Spagnola would like a word.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is so much worse than stugats take.

[Billy Gil]

What is worse about it?

[Chris Cote]

Damn.

[Greg Cody]

These guys don't know ball. I just realized that these guys don't know ball.

[Frank]

You're watching one side of the field.

[Dan Le Batard]

If you think that he's gonna laugh at us when he's watching the steer takes later.

[Billy Gil]

You guys are again listening poorly. It's not surprising. Those ears on the side of your head are usually just ornaments. I did not say anything about about the defense. I said their offense is no longer fun to watch. That's not up for debate. Like that's not. It's.

[Dan Le Batard]

You said the Chiefs are done.

[Frank]

Quote, that team is dead.

[Billy Gil]

That.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's a direct quote.

[Billy Gil]

The offense is unaesthetically pleasing. They've ruined what it used to be to watch Patrick Mahomes play football.

[Chris Cote]

Agreed. But let's also agree it's not Patrick Mahomes fault. He does not have a great running game. He does not have anywhere near an elite receiver. Travis Kelce looks old all of a sudden. I don't blame Patrick Mahomes. I don't think he's lost anything. I think his surrounding talent has hit a crater.

[Billy Gil]

The average yard per attempt on what Patrick Mahomes is doing for whatever the reasons are. Because I remember when he had Tyreek Hill 50 yards downfield and Travis Kelce was. Was Gronk. And back then when he had that, everyone was telling me how great Mahomes was. With or without them. They won a championship after Tyreek Hill left. But the offense is no longer a pleasure to watch. No one here is disagreeing with this. Correct. It's not a pleasure to watch that offense. You can blame everybody but Patrick Mahomes. We know he's a great quarterback. That's not up for dispute. We know that he's a great quarterback.

[Chris Cote]

I agree with you. But I also don't write off the Chiefs at 02 for reasons that you can. And you do write off the dolphins at 02. I think it's very, very premature to write off Mahomes and the Chiefs at 02.

[Eric]

Let me ask you something. When the Dolphins lose on Thursday night to drop to 03, if. All right, man. When the Dolphins lose on Thursday night to fall to 03, does Tyreek Hill then also play for the Chiefs Sunday night?

[Frank]

Is that allowed?

[Billy Gil]

I don't think that that's allowed.

[Eric]

Why not?

[Billy Gil]

I don't think it's allowed.

[Frank]

He played twice in one week.

[Billy Gil]

I don't think you can play.

[Eric]

Why wouldn't that be allowed?

[Billy Gil]

You guys think he can play two days, three days later? You think four days later?

[Dan Le Batard]

There's players that have been traded that already missed the new team's bye week so they have an extra game every season.

[Eric]

Mikel Bridges played 83 games a couple years ago in the NBA. Everyone else played it too.

[Billy Gil]

You are right that Patrick Mahomes has an assortment of injuries around him. He has had 11 starting lines, left tackles since becoming the chief starter. The only other player with more is Baker Mayfield, but he's played on four different teams.

[Greg Cody]

He's also number four. Number three on the list. Josh Allen.

[Chris Cote]

Boy.

[Eric]

Who's ahead of him?

[Chris Cote]

Two better than that.

[Greg Cody]

Two better than that.

[Chris Cote]

Thank you.

[Greg Cody]

This is the list of guys that you fear in the last two minutes of the game to win the game. Number two. Joe Burrow.

[Chris Cote]

Thank you.

[Billy Gil]

I cussed his sleeping.

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[Billy Gil]

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[Eric]

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[Frank]

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[Chris Cote]

It's a dramatic pause. What?

[Greg Cody]

Billy. Go ahead.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Chris Cote]

Hey. He's not writing off Mahomes. No.

[Greg Cody]

He's still. He's still the. The. The champ when it comes to last two minutes. Who you fear. It's still Patrick Mahomes until he gets dethroned. But Dan's point is. 100 correct.

[Chris Cote]

Got the rings, baby. Ringing it. Patrick Owens. Just look at those red. Look at the jewelry first. And look at the yards per attempt second. When he's got no surrounding talent. No surrounding talent. Look. The Chiefs. It's a great division they play in. And they may well not win the division. But I'll take your bet and give you odds. If you don't think the Chiefs are a playoff team. They are.

[Billy Gil]

I'm not saying they're not a playoff team. Again. I will say it again and again and there's not a rebuttal to it. It's no longer fun to watch an offense that I assumed would always go over 30 points every single game they're playing. That. I don't see how you argue against that.

[Chris Cote]

I don't.

[Frank]

You said the Chiefs are dead.

[Chris Cote]

That.

[Frank]

That's what she said. And it's okay.

[Chris Cote]

You can. It's.

[Frank]

It doesn't have to be one or the other. It can be. Hey. I don't like watching their offense. And they are dead. But you said Both things feel like my dad. And you said that Baker Mayfield's better than Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady. I mean, Dan.

[Greg Cody]

My dad.

[Frank]

Hour for you. My dad will just have everyone in like. Like still in it. They're 0 and 2. They're still in it. Everyone is still in it.

[Chris Cote]

Right? They have. They have elite coaching. They have a great defense. They're okay. Rashid Rice is going to be back soon. They're probably going to be back soon.

[Eric]

That's six games.

[Chris Cote]

They're probably going to trade for Tyreek Hill. They're going to be okay.

[Eric]

He's going to play Sunday night for them.

[Billy Gil]

Greg, just, just in analyzing throughout the history of sports, when you start 03 in that sport, your season tends to be done. Yeah, almost statistically always.

[Frank]

I saw yesterday four people. I think four teams have started 03 and made the playoffs since 1990.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are you talking about the Dolphins or the Chiefs?

[Frank]

You think the Chiefs are going to.

[Dan Le Batard]

Lose to the Giants?

[Billy Gil]

The Bengals are the one that keep doing that three times. Right, The Bengals. I was talking about the dolphins starting 03 and how behind Greg is because the chiefs are a different.02 than the dolphins are.

[Chris Cote]

Sure.

[Billy Gil]

The dolphins are a calamitous 02. They, the dolphins are the worst Owen 2 there is in the entire league. Worse than Houston's, worse than the Saints, worse than Carolina.

[Frank]

Owen two off. I like this.

[Billy Gil]

The Dolphins look. No other team in the sport has this around them. Not, not this around them. Banners. The Texans did boo last night. The Texans fans were booing during that game. C.J. stroud spoiled them the first season. They can't block anyone up the middle and that offense is now all of a sudden neutralized. You said you're not used to quarterbacks coming in and immediately being good. C.J. stroud's kind of started that trend. The first couple of times I saw that. One of the first times I saw it was Cam Newton's first game. He threw for like 400 yards. Usually that's not something that, that you see, but CJ Stroud convinced us that he was a good quarterback. But he's now spent more time in the pros with us wondering whether he's a good quarterback than he spent being a good quarterback.

[Greg Cody]

I'm worried he stinks. I'm going to say that out there. I'm just going to put that out there for everybody to think about. I'm worried he stinks because we've seen it before.

[Eric]

Like, I know injuries played a role too, but Robert Griffin was amazing his first year. Look at the year and like, aren't.

[Chris Cote]

There anything after that?

[Eric]

You know, we, so we, we've seen some of these guys. Cam Newton was able to sustain it somewhat, but we, we've seen a few of them before.

[Frank]

Jaden Daniels, I see your dolphins 0 and 2 and I raise you a Chicago Bears 0 and 2.

[Dan Le Batard]

They have a worse embarrassing loss, worst point differential.

[Chris Cote]

And I would argue Houston, because they made the playoffs last year, their expectations were much higher than the Dolphins.

[Billy Gil]

Neither of those coaches are going to be fired after week three. In a conversation like and Zaslow fired.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Bears coaches Got hired. So he's not going to be fired.

[Chris Cote]

He's got a little slack.

[Dan Le Batard]

Andy Reid might be on the hot seat now though.

[Frank]

02 as well, since the Chiefs are dead.

[Billy Gil]

You mentioned, by the way, Zaslow, Cam Newton was okay after that. Yeah, he won MVP after that. Like he opened with a 400 yard game and then went 55, 15 1.

[Eric]

I don't think I said he was okay. I think he's. I think he's somewhat sustained what he did.

[Billy Gil]

Somewhat sustained.

[Eric]

Well, he didn't have 400 yards every.

[Billy Gil]

Game, but he was MVP of the league. He did somewhat sustain it to become boy Cam.

[Eric]

How about you try and recover that fumble in the super boys? Sit there and watch.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, there you go. Disappointing career. Cam Newton, based on. Based on talent, Based on how it started, in my opinion.

[Billy Gil]

Put it on the poll at lebatar show. Did Cam Newton have a disappointing career at levitar show he won an MVP and played in a Super Bowl.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

You don't, you, you don't agree? I'm surprised.

[Billy Gil]

I mean, he was pretty great. That Carolina team is one of the worst collection of talents I've seen in a Super bowl, other than the one Rex Grossman dragged to the super bowl like that. That team was 15 and 1.

[Chris Cote]

You know how often Cam Newton has been mentioned in the same breath as Pro Football hall of Fame? Never.

[Billy Gil]

Okay, but he was the MVP of the league.

[Chris Cote]

Okay. Other people have been and not made. You know, people have great. They were Washington net a kicker who was the MVP of the league.

[Billy Gil]

Okay. Mark Mosley's the same year.

[Chris Cote]

Was that so.

[Billy Gil]

Mark Mosley in 83. Just to be clear, even if Mark.

[Frank]

Mosley's watching this right now, he's like, where'd that come?

[Chris Cote]

I think it was 82. The strike season should put up Cam.

[Eric]

Newton's career stats and Mark Mosley's career sets on the screen.

[Frank]

Mark Mosley's son would be like, that's not true.

[Chris Cote]

He won an mvp.

[Eric]

I want a side by side of Cam Newton and Mark Mosley.

[Billy Gil]

I want what Chris is imagining there, which is Mark Mosley waking up in the morning, firing up the YouTube, watching our show and being just like making coffee.

[Eric]

Hell yeah.

[Frank]

Distance. He's like, hell yeah.

[Billy Gil]

What he did it is one of the most absurd things I want you guys. All right, now as we're, as we're listening this together, go ahead and imagine a kicker winning mvp. Now imagine under what circumstances we would have to have in football in order for a kicker to win mvp.

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[Eric]

Never stepped foot on that campus. I if you told me right now your life depends on it. Go to Santa Fe University and just, just, just take a picture st I would die. I don't know where it is.

[Billy Gil]

This is the Dan Ler show with.

[Chris Cote]

The ST.

[Billy Gil]

Are you guys in agreement that Dallas's kicker would have made that from 75 yards on Sunday.

[Eric]

He's got a boot.

[Chris Cote]

That's crazy.

[Frank]

Could have been 80. He's ridiculous.

[Billy Gil]

How is that a thing? He. He was kicking it from his own 45 yard line and he made it easily. Dan.

[Greg Cody]

They ran a running play. The play before they were like, no, we're good. He's going to make it settle.

[Eric]

I was like, wait, what for a draw play.

[Frank]

Can someone explain how the kickers have gotten so advanced in the last like 10 years? Like it in golf? You can explain it with the golf clubs. You know what I mean? Like, is it their shoes? Like. I know, bigger, faster, stronger. But it's just the, the jump. Oh, this. That's the guy.

[Billy Gil]

That's Mark Mosley. That's.

[Frank]

Did he run straight at the sticks on that?

[Eric]

That's Cam Newton's comp.

[Frank]

I do think they should bring back the single bar helmet. The single bar helmet is awesome.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Kickers always used to wear those do.

[Billy Gil]

What was the name of the kicker? Was it Dempsey who had half a foot.

[Chris Cote]

Tom Dempsey had half a foot and. And used a steel toe in his shoe. And now that's what the kickers now are doing. I allege they're all using steel toed shoes like Tom Dempsey.

[Frank]

They're not using like the sticky stuff in baseball.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's alleging. We don't know for sure. I'm alleging Pablo Tor will find.

[Eric]

Wasn't there a kicker who used to kick barefoot?

[Billy Gil]

There have been a few. There have been a handful of who have been barefoot kickers. But when Greg says that he had a steel toed shoe, he was kicking the ball with the toes. That's not something they do like straightforward.

[Frank]

Right?

[Chris Cote]

Right.

[Billy Gil]

Yes, that they're straightforward. They weren't coming from the side and they weren't kicking it with the top of their foot.

[Eric]

Why they stopped that. You get some good power on that.

[Chris Cote]

The gogle ax.

[Frank]

Didn't you try that, dad, when we went to St. Thomas for your 50 yard field goal, like you first tried doing it straight.

[Chris Cote]

I get it. Yeah. I was better soccer style. Yeah. Yeah.

[Billy Gil]

Chris, I have told you, okay? In sports, throughout sports. Sports Illustrated did an article about this about eight or nine years ago. Nothing has improved more anywhere across sports than the accuracy of kickers versus what it is that that was once upon a time where they go into the 90 percentile or the 80 percentile range and it's mathematically it was true eight or nine years ago. It's mathematically so empirically that nothing in sports has been More improved than the kicker. And also if you got a job in football, I understand that the pressure of this job seems unpleasant. Like the Bucs kicker last night was falling apart. The Bengals kicker the other day was falling apart because of the pressure with the job. But it's a really good job to have if you never have to get hit. You could get paid millions of dollars and all you're doing all the time is the lonely sculpting and perfecting of the that one thing. And you're doing it so clinically and so always that you get as good at it that you're making kicks from your own 45 yard line.

[Greg Cody]

Well, the Brandon Aubrey lore is that him and his wife were watching a game and then if kicker missed a field goal and then she's like, you could do that. And he's like, wait a second, I can't.

[Frank]

Well, he was a soccer player for sure, but his wife was like, he was retired. His wife's like, hey, you should, you could miss those.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, but he didn't play football right. Like he played soccer. Like that's what he did. And then he's like, yeah, I can go out and do it. And now became the best kicker in the league.

[Chris Cote]

League.

[Eric]

There's no reason that a really good like collegiate soccer player who is not going to go to the next level can't then decide to try out to be a place kicker.

[Frank]

You mentioned McLaughlin, the kicker for the Bucks missing. He did the rare point to the sky after a miss. Usually they don't do it if they miss.

[Eric]

I respect that.

[Frank]

After a make they like do this thing. He missed it and he gave a very subtle just like thanks anyways.

[Chris Cote]

Thank you.

[Billy Gil]

There was a Texan last night that did the same thing on a what he thought was a sack and it was just Baker Mayfield Field getting a first down like tackled him two yards beyond the first down and was celebrating as if he'd gotten a sack. When all it was was Tampa was really happy because it wasn't anything other than a successful first down for Tampa.

[Chris Cote]

Here's an example of the evolution of place kickers in the NFL. One of the first story Dolphins place kicker was Gary A Premier from the, from the super bowl era and his career accuracy percentage was 65%. You do that in the preseason now and you don't make the roster.

[Billy Gil]

Bill Barnwell was asking on the Dominique Foxworth show if the Cowboys could get a first round pick for Brandon Aubrey. Could they? And he was also, he was also asking the question at your life Savings. What would I have to set the number at where you're not nervous that Aubrey will come up short? Like where do I have to put up the number? You're betting your life savings and you, you're betting against the kick coming up short.

[Eric]

How long was the kick on Sunday?

[Billy Gil]

It was 64 yards and he made it easily from the, from his own 45, 40, 46 yard.

[Frank]

If it was a 70 yard kick, I would take the under.

[Eric]

Yeah, you have to.

[Billy Gil]

No, I wouldn't take. I wouldn't take the under on seven he made. What do you mean? Like.

[Frank]

But he's not doing like. I guarantee you he still has kicks where he comes up short on that. I'm not saying he's not capable of.

[Billy Gil]

It, Chris, but what, what Tony said is accurate.

[Chris Cote]

It.

[Billy Gil]

With seven seconds left in that game, Dallas was just trying to get the ball to the middle of the field. Like they weren't trying to get down the field closer. They knew they were in his range and everyone was questioning how stupid it was to simply run right up the middle if you could just throw an out for six yards. But they didn't need it because that guy can obviously make 70 yard field goals. Now I'm talking about coming up short though. I'm not talking about actually making the field goal. Yeah. I'm saying he kicks the ball. You got to be right. It's your life savings. Where do I put the number where you're nervous that he's going to come.

[Eric]

Up short if he had to kick another 64 yarder? Like I'm still going to think he's.

[Chris Cote]

Going to come up short if he kicks the ball from his own territory, even if it's his own 49. I would root again, not root. I would bet against him.

[Billy Gil]

But you did see how easily he made the 64 yard.

[Eric]

So from his own 49, it's a 67 yard field goals that we're talking about.

[Frank]

I'm with Dan though. Dan's making you put your life saving. So you guys are being a little flippant with this guy.

[Billy Gil]

He was on his own 45. It wasn't the ball, but the ball was spotted. The ball when it was held down for the kick was at his own 45 yard line. That's where he kicked it from. Right.

[Eric]

So it was a 65 yarder.

[Billy Gil]

Right. Okay.

[Chris Cote]

Does anybody think longer field goals are good for the NFL? Good for the sports watchability?

[Billy Gil]

I don't think field goals in general are good for the NFL.

[Chris Cote]

No, I don't either.

[Billy Gil]

I'd like to eliminate them altogether.

[Chris Cote]

And now we're seeing more of them.

[Eric]

I'm serious when I said I think they should be shortening the post. Not quite as thin as arena football was, but I absolutely. I mean, Dave Damachik came in and he wants an actual box that he gotta kick. I mean, I'm doing that, but I think the post should be much closer together.

[Billy Gil]

Can I get Mike McDaniel sound here, please, that we didn't play yesterday? Because I don't believe this is happening around the Bears. I don't believe this is happening around the Saints. I don't believe this is happening around Carolina where people are listening to the hometown coach and they're just tired of him yammering and circles goals.

[Frank]

To win games, you have to win the game, not lose the game honestly. And that. That is how you lose the game.

[Chris Cote]

You're moving the.

[Frank]

You're moving the ball down the field. You're first and 10, and then you find yourself at second and 20. That was critical.

[Eric]

I'm glad he's being honest.

[Billy Gil]

So to win the game, you have to not lose the game.

[Frank]

To win games, you have to win the game, not lose the game.

[Chris Cote]

He ain't wrong.

[Frank]

Honestly.

[Eric]

Honestly.

[Billy Gil]

I mean, it is honest and it is true.

[Frank]

I appreciate his honesty.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Billy Gil]

What is Big Mac saying? Have you guys checked in with Big Mac? Billy, have you checked in with Big Mac? Every time I come in through the. Through the carport, he gives me a thumbs down and then I'm driving away and he's just shouting at me how the Dolphins stink.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, he's not happy with the current state of affairs.

[Frank]

Big Mac max take of the day.

[Billy Gil]

Didn't I tell you?

[Chris Cote]

I told you.

[Frank]

You had it right the whole time.

[Chris Cote]

I knew it. Cause I can't stand.

[Billy Gil]

I. I feel sorry for him in a sense, but it's time for him to get out of here.

[Frank]

I'm tired of looking at that sad Greer McDaniel.

[Chris Cote]

I love him. Do it. I told you, do it.

[Billy Gil]

It hurts me. And then he called out the whole dog bone. He don't talk about himself. It's all we. You the one messing us up. I told you if we lose the game, if we lose, it was going to be because of him. And that's exactly what happened.

[Frank]

Big Mac's take of the day.

[Billy Gil]

Just truth bombs in the local hour between McDaniel and Big Mac. No lies told here. We speak more honestly about the dumpster fire that is the Dolphins here than anyone in Internet entertainment.

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