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Dan Le Batard
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Billy Gil
Shadow Show, Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow show, Shadow show, Shadow show, Shadow Show. Shadowing it.
Greg Cody
Shadowing it off the top of your head. Greg. Cody. What did I miss? Did I miss anything?
Billy Gil
I didn't know you were gone. No, I'm just kidding. We've missed you. You know, the ratings have skyrocketed in your absence, but don't take that personally. We're all happy you're back. I hope you had a wonderful time. Nobody deserves a vacation like you do, but you left it at. At a. At a sort of a downtime, you know, the summer doldrums. So I think you. You're back at a good time.
Greg Cody
So I didn't. I didn't miss anything because I was. I was in Hawaii. And I'm sure I will burden you with an assortment of irrelevant Hawaii facts over the course of the show today, including me falling down a flight of stairs. What? But before I do all of that, I will tell you that what I felt cross the ocean and it made me a combination of happy to be on vacation but sad about just the general state of sports is reverberating across the ocean. The Dolphins had a bad practice and I'm like, how is this. How is this something people are talking about for days? I have literally never heard of A practice so bad that it shakes the sea and arrives in Hawaii at my doorstep.
Billy Gil
We had a. The Miami Herald had a reporter live and in person in Chicago reporting that the Miami Dolphins had a bad practice. And I felt about the same way about that headline.
Don LeBatard
The Detroit Lions fan used to show up to games where in paper bags over their head. And the Detroit media was stunned at how bad the Dolphins were.
Greg Cody
Okay, so that's good. You guys are excited about the Dolphin season. It's just weeks away. We're just. We're just a little while away from Miami Notre Dame. Is Miami Notre Dame going to feel like Miami Notre Dame? Is that possible?
Dan Le Batard
It's a top ten match.
Billy Gil
Oh, yeah.
Dan Le Batard
But I think out of all the things you missed that you'd probably wish you were here for is Jeremy Tash is a racist now.
Billy Gil
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Greg Cody
What happened?
Don LeBatard
Shocking heel turn.
Dan Le Batard
He's a racist. Jeremy, who's supposed to aspire to be in the best of us. And he'll let you know about it, by the way, just cracked open the mic and just started saying racist slurs.
Billy Gil
Yeah. Anti Ireland slurs.
Dan Le Batard
Well, he lumped in multiple people into one slur. Catch all.
Greg Cody
I thought that among the people that we had here who aren't members of the original cast, I thought that the mo. The worst moment was had by Tony while I was away. That's.
Mike Ryan
That was also rough to watch.
Billy Gil
That's fair.
Zaslow
Which one?
Greg Cody
I. I only got one. And I just got that he lost a bet and. And flipped out.
Dan Le Batard
He crashed out on the air.
Greg Cody
Yeah, because. Because he lost a bet.
Dan Le Batard
Right. But we could do something with that. Jeremy, just being an open racist. Very hard to work with that. I can't do a lot of improv off of a dude just, like, spewing hate.
Greg Cody
You can't. I feel like Trump has provided a good amount of comedy on that front for all.
Mike Ryan
And he's back.
Dan Le Batard
And that's a fine.
Greg Cody
Well, I did. What do you mean, that's a fine? Why is the.
Dan Le Batard
My phone went off.
Greg Cody
Oh, I didn't hear it. Was that Greg Cody's phone? I didn't even hear it. Yeah, Trump said mouth the F word.
Zaslow
I don't think it was a Trump talk would end world hunger.
Dan Le Batard
Now we just reallocate to militarizing a city.
Greg Cody
Just this morning, Trump said on Fox News, I want to try and get to heaven if possible. I hear I'm not doing well. I hear here I'm really at the bottom of the totem pole.
Dan Le Batard
And we've already covered that bottom of the totem pole is actually good.
Greg Cody
Yeah, we have covered that.
Billy Gil
First time I've agreed with Trump in six years.
Dan Le Batard
Also, slavery is not as bad as we thought.
Greg Cody
Well, you know, we're back. Part of that, part of, part of, part of the commentary that he had that I will agree on is when.
Dan Le Batard
Hopefully not that.
Greg Cody
No. Right. But in that, in that tweet, there was something I agreed on, which is Trump did say that museums don't do enough in terms of celebrating the future. He's not wrong about that. Given by definition they are existing to only celebrate the past. So he wants them to celebrate the future more. But then they would not be museums anymore.
Dan Le Batard
Oh God. Start the show. Look, every football game is a grind. And if you're like Dan and the crew, you know there's no such thing as one size fits all. Your sleep should be just as custom as Coach's game plan. That's where Sleep Number comes in. You get to call your own plays. Softer, firmer, cooler, warmer. Your side, your comfort. Change it whenever you want. No more feeling stuck like a busted play. And for all the late night fights over the thermostat climate series cools up 20 times faster than the competition. True temp betting kicks heat and humidity to the sidelines so you can actually stay chill all night long. Bottom line, Sleep Number is like having a sleep coach in your corner, adjusting to you all night because your best game starts with the right rest. Why choose a Sleep Number? Smart Bed so you can sleep just the way that you like. The only bed that lets you make each side firmer or softer whenever you like. Your Sleep Number setting Sleep Number's biggest sale of the year is here. All beds on sale up to 50% off the limited edition smart bed limited time exclusively at a Sleep Number store near you. Sleep Number Official sleep and wellness partner of the NFL. See store or sleepnumber.com for details.
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Dan Le Batard
See.
Greg Cody
This is the Dan Levator show.
Billy Gil
With the Stugats podcast.
Greg Cody
I want to talk about our love of nostalgia and I what I imagine will be a cowboys documentary on Netflix that will do very, very well, even though the team hasn't done very, very well in 30 years. And it's totally unsurprising that instead of just doing a Cowboys documentary in 10 parts that Jerry Jones would insist on it be a documentary that with him and then talks about the cowboys. But before I do that, I just want to ask you guys for a formal definition here on how many stairs you have to fall down to fall down a flight of stairs. Because at two o' clock in the morning on my vacation in the dark, I am contending that I fell down a flight of stairs. But it wasn't obviously the entire flight of stairs. But it involves me bloody on the floor with my knee and elbow scratched up. Yeah, yeah. And moaning and laughing at the floor, waiting for my wife to have heard me from where did you tumble? I did tumble.
Dan Le Batard
Great question. Thank you.
Greg Cody
Yeah. But I don't think I'm going to get away with this because I did indeed tumble. However, I only missed the last two stairs. So I don't know how to describe what happened because it's not I just say I fell down a flight of stairs, but I don't know if I fell down enough stairs to qualify for falling down a flight, but did tumble into and not only that, I fell into the wall that was opposite the stairs because my momentum carried me. My moaning momentum carried me because I missed the last two steps because I was in my phone.
Dan Le Batard
Oh damn. My hotels never have stairs.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, that's the first observation.
Zaslow
You missed two steps.
Greg Cody
I did. I missed the last two steps in the dark. And so but, but if you there are a couple of observations that I have that I want to ask you guys because I don't know if you have seen this. There's some people talking about how inflation and the economy has bad that all of America ends up feeling like a streaming service that keeps upping the Prices, but removing some of the features. Okay, so I felt inflation when I went to, for the first time in 30 years, I went to, walking out of a pizza place, a gumball machine to get some Mike and Ike's. And I put one quarter in the gumball machine. And I ask all of you, what's the proper number of Mike and Ike's that I should get for one quarter if I go to a gumball machine from 30 years ago?
Billy Gil
What the hell is a Mike and Ike?
Dan Le Batard
No, Dan, that's not inflation. That's inflammation.
Greg Cody
Right.
Mike Ryan
Different.
Greg Cody
You don't know what Mike and I.
Mike Ryan
Come on, you know what that is?
Billy Gil
What? Tell me.
Greg Cody
It's.
Billy Gil
It's a gumball.
Greg Cody
It's a candy. It's a. It's a chewy candy. It's a.
Dan Le Batard
It's got a very cylinder shaped.
Billy Gil
How big is it?
Greg Cody
Very small.
Dan Le Batard
It looks like pill. Like a big supplement.
Greg Cody
A big pill. No, the shape of pill. It's not circular. It's more oblong.
Billy Gil
Okay. You got to get three for a quarter. Right?
Dan Le Batard
All right. You remember good and plenty.
Billy Gil
Yes.
Dan Le Batard
That's the fruity version of it.
Billy Gil
Ah, okay. Three.
Greg Cody
Okay, so you ruined the game. Perfect for the seat. Just. You ruined the game because I got three. And I was offended. I was hugely. I was offended on behalf of America. This can't be three. I've just been ripped off as I'm walking out of this place. This is a ripoff. If I.3 is not even a mouthful of Mike and Ike's in terms of what it is that you want for chewiness.
Billy Gil
Okay? One would have insulted you. Three is normal. But what does that have to do with you falling down a flat?
Greg Cody
I'm just going to give you an assortment of observation.
Mike Ryan
You had a quarter.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. I can't believe you had a quarter. Wow.
Don LeBatard
What else can you buy with a quarter these days?
Greg Cody
What's funny about that is the only reason I went to a gumball machine for the first time in 30 years is because I had a single quarter on me. And I'm like, what am I going to do with this? I usually just give this to whoever it is gave it to me.
Billy Gil
Okay. And when you fell down the flight of stairs. Because I'm not going to leave that alone. I find out how much you'd been drinking. Because when you fall down a flight of stairs and laughter ensues, it implies that alcohol was involved.
Greg Cody
Not a drink. It was not about drinking. It was two o' clock in the morning, in the dark.
Billy Gil
Okay.
Greg Cody
And you guys have Me staying in a hotel, I would not do that. I was. I was staying in a home. Yeah.
Billy Gil
Airbnb.
Greg Cody
And.
Zaslow
And you bought a house on vacation.
Greg Cody
Just a small one on the water.
Mike Ryan
The answer. The answer is five, by the way. Five steps. Is falling down a flight of stairs. If it was like, if you're on the fourth step, third step. That's just.
Greg Cody
I thought you were answering the Mike and I question.
Don LeBatard
I think if you get. No matter how many steps, I think if you get to the bottom of the stairs, still unbalanced, that's falling down a flight of stairs.
Greg Cody
Okay. But I ended up on my side and back again. Bloodied knee and bloodied elbow, and it was only. It was only two steps, but it was obviously a hard fall, and I'm very lucky. Like, I didn't break my ankle or something in terms of the way that I fell, but I felt. I fe. Felt the last step on my way on. On the momentum. The last.
Zaslow
You only missed one step. The second step, you hit the first step, but with your knee or back, that's.
Greg Cody
Well, yeah, I don't know. I don't even think it was my knee or back that hit the first.
Zaslow
You're going to die in a really strange way. I'm just going to make a prediction here.
Mike Ryan
The positives here, you're young enough where you don't break your hip doing that. You know, you're. You know that happened to my dad right now.
Billy Gil
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Well, I mean, we could be looking at the beginning of the end.
Billy Gil
I mean, I pulled a muscle in my arm trying to do monkey bars.
Mike Ryan
You should show that he did the monkey. Remember, we did that while you were gone. Were you here for that, Dan? When my dad tried to. He tried to do the monkey bars, failed at it. Spoiler alert.
Don LeBatard
No way you would be able to do.
Mike Ryan
And afterwards, he had a bruise on his bicep that, like, went. I was on both sides. So he did something like legit.
Billy Gil
The point is not that, but that if I fell down a flight of stairs, I absolutely would break a hip. So good for you not doing that. You got good hips. This guy leads a league in.
Mike Ryan
He always has.
Dan Le Batard
Well, nice gate. A perusal of artificial intelligence suggests the average flight is about 12 to 15 steps. Yeah, it goes to the next floor. Right?
Mike Ryan
Flight of stairs still dangerous. We're not downplaying how dangerous it was. It's just not a flight of stairs.
Dan Le Batard
The legal definition is a continuous run of steps without a landing.
Greg Cody
Bad. Bad arm day for you. Bad arm day.
Billy Gil
Bad arm Life.
Greg Cody
All right, let me see what you've got working there. We're gonna embarrass you on a couple of fronts here. Cause we have a video here that I am told you do not want us to play about something that you and your wife are bee over. So that's from. That is a strange place. So that's a strange place to have a bruise after doing the monkey bars. And I do believe. Oh, look at that thing. That the reason that happens is because that's where all your dad's pride, ego and will went to die because he couldn't actually do it.
Billy Gil
It was embarrassing.
Greg Cody
Yeah, well, but that was the intersection of. I don't want to be embarrassed. Let me see if I could tear my bicep doing this. Okay, now I have to stop.
Billy Gil
Okay. That's right. I was injured or else I would have continued and done the whole monkey bar. That's good. See, he just gave me a great excuse injury. That's why I couldn't.
Greg Cody
Why are you so delusional? And I have a theory, okay, I do have a theory that I believe is true after 40, which is that every man. And this only happens to men. Every man over 40 thinks he's 20 years younger than he actually is. Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Does every single man over 40 years old think he's actually 20 years old years younger than he is? Because I think this is an affliction for you. Especially because you think you can do everything in sports. Like you think you can block Miles garrett and kick 70 yard field goals.
Billy Gil
No, no, I've kicked a 50 yard field goal, as all know. So that's part of it. You know, I used to do monkey bars like in a top speed when I was.
Mike Ryan
That's how you did them?
Billy Gil
Yeah, when I was a kid. And so I'm figuring I'm stronger right now. I could kick.
Don LeBatard
Kick the ass your form would allow you. You would hit your head on the monkey bar. Like I. You're not making it.
Billy Gil
No, I'm going like this. I would kick the ass of my 10 year old self who did monkey bars. You know, top speed. So I'm thinking, why can't I do monkey bars now? So I tried and I failed.
Don LeBatard
Don LeBatard.
Dan Le Batard
We need to establish at least some reasonable doubt. Yes, exactly.
Greg Cody
Please toy where he feels more than you do.
Dan Le Batard
St I always like leaving hand on cuz he's so vulnerable. I just unfairly fade down the chickens to just leave him by himself.
Don LeBatard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the st.
Greg Cody
I don't understand how delusional you are about this. You mentioned kicking and it just made me think of a preview I saw while I was away. Have you guys seen the preview yet? For a movie that I have to see, which is just called if I had Legs, I'd kick you?
Billy Gil
Wow, great title.
Dan Le Batard
Is that from the makers of Something's Gnawing on My Leg?
Greg Cody
I don't know what this is about. I assume that it's a horror movie. But you can find some information on this for me. And what I wish for you to also do is please find some information for me on the movie the Senior starring Michael Chiklis, who I have been told, please get me a height and weight on Michael Chiklis and please get me an age on Michael Chicklis because he is going back to college. He's playing for a team called the Lobos. He has one year of eligibility left. He's an old man. But what I'm told is that he is a menace in this movie and it's based on a true story. He looks ridiculous doing everything that he's doing because he's an old man who's not particularly big. But one of the things that he does in the fourth quarter when everyone's tired, I'm told, is he lines up on the line of scrimmage and he informs everybody on the other team that it is, quote, clobbering time.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, that's actually a callback. He played the Thing in the Fantastic Four. And that's the Thing's catchphrase. I'm a nerd. Michael chiklis is currently 61 years old. He is listed anywhere between 5 foot 7 and 5 foot 9. He's an actor, so it's probably 5 foot 7. And just under 180 pounds was the last verified weight.
Don LeBatard
No way is he under 180 pounds.
Greg Cody
Get out of here.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, if he's five foot seven.
Greg Cody
This is asinine. A preview as I ever have seen done on Sports. A 61 year old Michael Chiklis trying to play college football. But he reminds me of Cody.
Billy Gil
Okay, first of all, I've seen that movie.
Greg Cody
It hasn't come out yet.
Zaslow
I was at the premiere in 2020.
Billy Gil
I was at the premiere in 2023. We actually had Mike Flint, the. The original linebacker who Chickless is playing on the Greg Cody show podcast. Christopher, you should get audio from that. But it, you know, the movie's a little bit corny, but it's sweethearted. You know, it's a sweet movie. I can recommend it.
Dan Le Batard
I can't tell if you're actually telling the truth or not.
Billy Gil
No, I am.
Dan Le Batard
You went to the premiere?
Billy Gil
I went to the premiere. It was in Fort Lauderdale in like the fall of 2023. The assumption was that it was gonna come out soon after. Apparently they.
Greg Cody
Well, I just saw a preview that said it comes out September 19th.
Billy Gil
It does? Yeah. So in other words, it had been in the can for two years.
Mike Ryan
Episode 46 of the Greg Cody Show. I completely forgot about it. We talked to 59 year old Mike.
Dan Le Batard
Flint of all the people that have something for you on a movie topic.
Billy Gil
I know Mr. Movie, he's like the.
Dan Le Batard
Perfect guest is in studio with you.
Greg Cody
But, but has the movie come out yet or not come out yet?
Dan Le Batard
Because did you not listen to episode 46 of the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody?
Don LeBatard
It look, looks like it was canned. It was made a couple of years ago. It was canned and now it's coming.
Billy Gil
Out, finally coming out two years later.
Greg Cody
Okay, so Greg Cody got a sneak preview on a movie two years early that has not yet come out and has already covered it extensively on his own podcast.
Dan Le Batard
Adhered to a two year embargo.
Billy Gil
I scooped it. I scooped that story.
Don LeBatard
I've got some info on if I had legs, I'd kick you.
Greg Cody
I'll get to that in a second. I've got a lot to catch up on. And in hour two today we will review all of the things that I missed and I to be careful because I really did check out. So I don't know too much of what it is that you guys have talked about, but have you guys talked about that this season the Jacksonville Jags only need to get to their own 43 yard line.
Mike Ryan
70 yard field goal. Yeah, we saw that. I don't think we talked about it. I saw it though.
Greg Cody
But, but they only, they don't need to get to the other side of the field which is perfect for Trevor Lawrence. Are we now introducing. Because it makes sense, right? You always hear all the time, oh, this guy was hitting him from 70 in the pregame. It's here now, right? The 70 year old. The seven 70 yard field goal is actually here. Will we see this? We're going to see this at some point at the end of a half or at the end of a game. It doesn't make any sense to do it when you're going to give up the field position of allowing somebody to be in your territory. But we will see this happen.
Billy Gil
I'm surprised we haven't yet because the 60 yard field goal has become fairly commonplace. 65 has been done. You know, 70 is going to happen. But, but as you know, do it in a game. I mean, somebody did it in the preseason. I think the guy you're talking about doesn't count. Don't even consider it not a record. Do it in a real game. But if I had to guess, I would say the over under this year is that there will be two or three 70 yard field goals kicked.
Don LeBatard
I gotta be honest, Be honest. I'm gonna be honest. Everybody knows. If you know one thing about me, you know I'm honest. I'm gonna be honest here.
Greg Cody
I, I know that you like Thai food.
Don LeBatard
Dude, I'm tired of the long field goals being so easy. Now in the NFL, when do we get to a point they have to make the goal posts thinner. It doesn't have to be like arena football, but we got, we got to close those goal posts a little bit. Kicking field goals become too easy.
Billy Gil
Honestly, that was said when I kicked my 50 yard field goal. I'm not even lying. Hal Habib was the witness. And people said at the time, you're being honest. Yeah, people said at the time, if this guy who's never played organized football can kick a 50 yard field goal, we got to change the parameter because in a couple of generations from now, people are going to be kicking 70 yard field goals. That's what was said due to my 50 yard field goal. So I'm really taking a little bit of credit for the advancement in the length of field goals.
Mike Ryan
I like Damchek's idea from Football America. You put a crossbar at the top of the field goal so it's like a square instead of opening because the.
Dan Le Batard
Short ones, they go too high.
Billy Gil
That's not a bad idea.
Dan Le Batard
I like that you have more footballs blocked at the line of scrimmage.
Billy Gil
Make it tougher, make it tougher.
Greg Cody
You guys want to make the, you guys want to make the field goal more difficult and you're trying to discuss whether or not you'd rather make it kick it through a square or move the goal post closer together.
Billy Gil
Not only that, if it's a super short field goal, it should be worth one point. If it's a medium field goal, say 35 to 50 yards, you're rewarding the.
Greg Cody
The offense less for getting closer to the goal line.
Billy Gil
Should be 2, 2, 2 points.
Mike Ryan
If you go further down the field.
Greg Cody
You'Re going to ruin the game with a bunch of strategy to be at the 50 yard line.
Mike Ryan
You'll be taking knees at the 40.
Billy Gil
Strategy is part of the game.
Dan Le Batard
We're incentivizing them, going for it. The closer they are to the goal line.
Billy Gil
Right?
Dan Le Batard
That's how we spin it.
Billy Gil
That's right. Yeah.
Greg Cody
Put it on the poll, please. At lebatard show, should the goal posts be closer together? Please give me an update. Zaslow, if you would, on the great movie, if I had legs, I'd kick you.
Don LeBatard
Okay, here's the plot. Everybody knows that with her life crashing down around her, Linda attempts to navigate her child's mysterious illness, her absent husband, a missing person, and an increasingly hostile relationship with her therapist. And I'll tell you, this is a cast, all right? It stars Rose Byrne. She's an A list actress. Also Conan o'. Brien.
Billy Gil
What?
Don LeBatard
I didn't even know he's an actor. So, yeah, there you go.
Greg Cody
He's a psychiatrist in that movie. But it's a horror movie, correct?
Don LeBatard
Dark comedy. It looks like asap. Rocky's in it.
Greg Cody
It's a good. It's a good name for a movie. It's a movie that lures you in for sure. Can I wonder here aloud, Billy, because I have been grateful here that over the first 20 minutes of this show, you have not allowed Wild Willie Wednesday to break out of me. I don't break out around.
Zaslow
No, you're back. This is a celebration, a homecoming, if you will.
Greg Cody
But can you please explain to me, if you do not mind, why it is that you were alleging that a 31 to 17 game is more of a blowout than a 14 to nothing game?
Zaslow
I mean, does that have to be explained? Do you guys argue that a 31 to 17 game is not more of a blowout than a 14 to nothing game?
Dan Le Batard
It sounds better. It sounds more impressive because the points that you're putting up on the board, but also the other team has zero points. I've never really given this much thought, but I would rather beat a team 37. 31.
Greg Cody
31.
Dan Le Batard
17.
Zaslow
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Than 14. 0. Because I want to feel good about my offense more than I want to feel good about my defense.
Billy Gil
That's just wrong.
Zaslow
What's wrong?
Billy Gil
The 14 nothing game is. Is more rare.
Don LeBatard
I'm with you.
Billy Gil
Unusual. Yeah, that's what you want.
Zaslow
Two scores.
Billy Gil
How weird are shutouts anymore? I would like to see a pie chart or a graph on the number of shutouts in the NFL. They're so rare now that when you get one, it's a big deal.
Zaslow
I think 15 to 1 is more of a blowout than 14 nothing.
Don LeBatard
That's definitely score gummy.
Billy Gil
In my NFL, there could be a 15 to 1 score. See, you know what I mean? There could be.
Greg Cody
Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Is a 15 to 1 blowout more impressive than a 14 to nothing blowout? And is a 3117 blowout more impressive than a 14-to-nothing blowout? You guys are just doing football, baseball, that feels different. 15 to 1 and 140 feel the same. But when you do, when you do football on this and you tell me 14 nothing, 14 nothing for me represents one of the most famous scores in South Florida history. The Miami Dolphins won a very close game and a sloppy Orange bowl to advance to the super bowl over the Jets. Right? The last time either of those two teams was relevant that way at the same time over the jets, with AJ Dewey returning a interception for a touchdown to make it 14 nothing. But that was by no means a blowout. It's the most famous 14 nothing I can remember in South Florida's history.
Billy Gil
That's the same game I was thinking of when that score happened to come up and it was AJ Dewey, muddy conditions, AFC Championship game, right?
Greg Cody
But that, that was not a blowout. That was not in any way a blowout.
Billy Gil
It was a great game. I mean, it's basically a, a seven nothing game, you know, broken open a little bit by an interception return in the mud, which you can never anticipate.
Dan Le Batard
That game was covered in the ESPN 30 for 30 on the new York sack exchange. I could not believe the field conditions for that game. This is a game to go to the super bowl and they allowed them to play on that slot.
Greg Cody
Speaking of things I couldn't believe, I don't know if you guys have followed the Cowboys documentary that just released. I saw the first episode last night and it's just going to be very easy nostalgic watching because the personalities are so, so great. Basically, the Cowboys have been relevant for 30 years even though their team hasn't been any good. Because the personalities that started all this were great and it's endured for 30 years. But what I could not believe in the first episode that I simply did not remember and could not see happening again in my entire lifetime in sports, that when Tom Landry was replaced by Jimmy Johnson, they had a parade for just Tom Brady or Tom Landry has been fired and there were 100,000 people just there to watch Tom Landry go in a car and wave at them that he'd been fired. Because he was replaced. And that will never happen again. No, it'll. It'll never happen again in sports that a coach will be. Will have that kind of feeling from its fan base that a hundred thousand people will gather for something that is part parade and part funeral for a man who's still alive. And all he's done at the end is be sacked by Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones.
Dan Le Batard
Wait, were they happy he was fired or were they celebrating all of his contributions?
Greg Cody
They were mad that he had been.
Dan Le Batard
Replaced, but they were saying, he's waving. It seems as though he's got buy in. So he was under a certain impression.
Greg Cody
No, he had been let go by Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson in a way that was so unpopular.
Don LeBatard
Wasn't it the first thing Jones did when he, when he bought the tv?
Greg Cody
Yes, basically it's the first thing he did, was he brought in Jimmy Johnson. This part, this thing is so interesting. I've reached out to Jimmy to see if he wants to talk about it. Because one of the many interesting things about it at the end is to see, oh, look at this, they've made a documentary where Jerry's gonna allow Jimmy to get the credit in a way Kraft didn't allow Belichick to get the credit. This is interesting. Like where the E. Like they were friends and then they hated each other. And at the end of their lives, as they both examine mortality and immortality, the two of them are willing to make a documentary that does not gonna have all the truth in it. It's gonna have a little bit of truth and they're gonna avoid a whole lot of shit in it that Jerry Jones doesn't want in there. But one of the truths that they're gonna give you is that Jimmy Johnson did that. And with Jerry Jones signing off on that, that's not something Bob Kraft just did with Bill Belichick where he gave him the documentary credit. Ten parts of, yeah, he did this. It seems like Jimmy Johnson's going to be the big winner in this. In this documentary. But one of the things that I wanted here is we were very close, Meadowlark Media to getting that documentary. It's as heartbroken as I have ever seen Jonathan Skipper like that. He came a very close second to us being able to make that documentary. And second place is a set of steak knives. Because here's what second place gets you. That's what we get instead of millions and millions of dollars at Metal Arc Media. We get that at the end of a Cowboys documentary that all of you are going to Watch. Right. Right.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, I'll get. I'll get around to it.
Billy Gil
I think I. I'm still watching Alien Earth.
Greg Cody
It's candy of the greatest kind. Or am I speaking just as someone who's, you know, worked in this market for 36 years?
Billy Gil
I totally agree with you. And. And it. It's sort of lost over time that Jimmy Johnson's first year in Dallas, he went 1 in 15, so he had to really, really win that fan base over, and he did. And. And another aspect of this story I like is what a fraud the phrase America's team has become because they've been essentially under the radar for 30 years.
Greg Cody
I don't think you can say that when they're the most valuable franchise in sports.
Billy Gil
Okay. But I'm curious, though. Who owns the America's team? Is it NFL Films? Is it the Cowboys themselves? I'm kind of curious about that because.
Greg Cody
Originally it was the Atlanta Braves of Ted Turner. When they brought in cable television, they were supposed to be America's team because they went from being a local broadcast to a national broadcast. But then, then after that, the Dallas Cowboys became America's team. And they are perfectly American in that they are basically famous currency. Interesting, because they can gather attention, but aren't going to actually win anything as long as those people are in charge of it. And even though the relationship of Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones broke up in a drunken bar because Jerry Jones was telling everybody, I could win with 500 coaches, Jerry Jones ended up being right in the short term because he picked a professional clown to coach his team, and that, too, won a championship.
Billy Gil
Switzer. Yep.
Greg Cody
But he hasn't been able to do shit since other than ruin the earth with his oil business, make a bunch of money, and have a team that everyone talks about but doesn't fear.
Billy Gil
And also another thing he's done is remain at the forefront of publicity and attention by being the owner who's on the sideline, by being the owner who's picking a fight with his best defensive player on the dawn of the season. He loves headlines and attention, and he's gotten those for 30 years.
Greg Cody
But that's the thing about all of that that's interesting. They say it right at the beginning of the documentary. He says, I went into so much debt as a gambler. I've got all these scars inside because I could be really good at borrowing money. Like, my mouth is great. He's done it on his mouth. It's not anything else. He's done it on his mouth for 30 years. It's. It has been cartoonishly wonderful to watch as he behaves differently than any other owner and is held to a different standard than all the other owners because he's still in charge. No one can do anything about it. And he isn't any good at that job. And he hasn't been any good at that job for 30 years. He's only good at telling you he's good at that job.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, the valuation of the franchise has skyrocketed under his leadership. So I'm talking about, maybe anybody can do that, but they are the single most talked about franchise in this country.
Don LeBatard
You're talking about him as a gm.
Greg Cody
I am talking about the football product and what you're talking about. You're not wrong. You're. It's a good correction in this respect, and I'm sure they're going to cover this in the documentary. Jerry Jones and Bob Kraft are sitting there and Jerry Jones is keeping Bob Kraft out of the hall of Fame right now, according to the reporting around it, because their competition over the last 30 years has been about. About who could be the king of this sport on the field and off the field, who's the king? And Jerry will say to Bob Kraft, I'm worth more. My, my thing doesn't even need to win as much as your thing. I don't need a dictator coach. I can take out an assortment of puppets and I'm worth more than you. And I'll keep your ass out of the hall of Fame because I'm more powerful than you as well. And so what they will get credit for is absolutely. They built that entire league. The two of them have built what that is. It was Jerry Jones's league, it was Bob Kraft's league when he was winning. But Bob Kraft doesn't have the personality to ever be Jerry Jones.
Don LeBatard
Wouldn't you make the case, though, that Jerry Jones is the face of the NFL right now?
Billy Gil
No, no, I wouldn't say that.
Greg Cody
No. Really, Mahomes, you're talking about face as an owner. Like you'd make it Goodell or power. You'd make it an owner instead of a player. You wouldn't make it Travis Kelce. You wouldn't make it a player. Sure. Face of the league. Can the face of a league ever be the arm? Was Mark Cuban ever the face of basketball? Is the power where the face of a league is?
Don LeBatard
Oh, I don't think Cuban's in the same territory as Jerry Jones.
Dan Le Batard
I think he's certainly top 15 names like there is the Most important reason why Roger Goodell is telling assembled media our competition is not other leagues, it's tech companies, is because Jerry Jones is the most most influential owner in a league run by owners.
Billy Gil
This is one of the most spectacular.
Greg Cody
Venues with all kinds of character and hospitality scenery.
Billy Gil
These people in this gitatas valley is they love when you come to see what they have to offer.
Greg Cody
I'm JJ Harris, Ellensburg rodeo clown, and I want to invite you to the rodeo. Come hang out with us in Ellensburg. Great rodeo. Great time. Two performances on Saturday. One is the extreme bulls of the year event. Do not miss The Ellensburg Rodeo, August 29th through September 1st. We'll see you there.
Don LeBatard
Don LeBatard.
Greg Cody
I am mortified to say that it wasn't but, like 10 years ago that I didn't even realize that I went one time to Ron McGill Zoo wearing accidentally my. My mother's shirt. St. Not realizing that I buttoned it. That's impossible. It's not impossible. It was one of the most airheaded things. It seems ridiculous for everybody involved. I was much leaner at the time. Yeah, I don't want to make my mother. That's impossible. 280. That's also impossible.
Don LeBatard
This is the D Ler show with the St.
Greg Cody
I'm a bit surprised by what Zaslow's doing there in that. I don't know that I've ever made an owner a face of a league.
Dan Le Batard
Well, it's also tough because which one of his faces?
Greg Cody
I guess Dana White is somebody. I would have to do that. I would do that with ufc. He is absolutely the face of ufc. But I think a player, when you're ever talking about face of a league, it's not power, it's play. And so the distinction you guys are making is a good one and an important one, because Jerry Jones has won, even while he has not won, because it's worth more than anything. And it's because of what they've made. That league. He bought it for $150 million. He bought the Cowboys $150 million. It's worth more than 10 billion now.
Dan Le Batard
Also. I'm not a fan. Sorry, Greg. I know what we're doing. They haven't won in 30 years, and they don't have many playoff wins to their name. I don't know what the number is.
Greg Cody
But I think it's two. Mike.
Dan Le Batard
Two. Two. But he does have three Super Bowls, one of which is with Barry Switzerland. Everyone keeps trying to take that away.
Mike Ryan
And they've rarely been bad. I don't want to do the thing of he's not bad at, he's not bad at being a gm. He's average. But they're, they've rarely been the worst team in the league, by the way, a lot worse GMs.
Don LeBatard
I mean, by the way, before this last season, which was obviously a disaster, they had three consecutive 12 win seasons. Like, is it Jerry's fault that they get to the postseason and the defense sucks or Dak doesn't play well? Like it's Jerry's fault in that spot.
Dan Le Batard
I mean he assembles a team unlike. Yeah, you can 12 wins you. I understand. But is it Jerry's fault that the defense he beat falls apart in the defense in the postseason? You can make that argument.
Billy Gil
Well, Jerry Jones lives with the curse of having won the biggest early in his career, early in his ownership career. Don Shuler lived with that same curse. He won two Super Bowls back in a row and in a row and spent 30 years trying to live up to his own image, which is what Jerry Jones is doing. But the face of the league America's team in the NFL was Tom Brady in New England for 15 years. And that had to kill Jerry Jones. And that's what interests me about them hanging on to that America's team title because it to me it's become a little bit of a mockery, but it's a fascinating one he just made.
Mike Ryan
Is Tom Brady still the face of the league?
Dan Le Batard
Which one of the faces.
Mike Ryan
That's a good question.
Greg Cody
Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Is Tom Brady still the face of the NFL? And also which one of the faces.
Zaslow
You guys are going to watch eight episodes of this Cowboys, isn't it 10, eight, whatever it is you're gonna watch.
Don LeBatard
That'd be weird if you watch. Aiden didn't watch last.
Dan Le Batard
It's hard for me to get through eight episodes of anything right now. I'm still on episode one of Alien Art.
Greg Cody
So Billy, not for you, the ten.
Zaslow
Nah, not for me. I mean IMDb says eight. I guess maybe two more to come out at a later date.
Greg Cody
But oh no, no, I might have it wrong. When we were originally talking about it, it was 10. So I like it's going to be cotton candy. But I am asking you if it's cotton candy for a certain age because I know it's cotton candy for me and Greg Cody. But the nostalgia of these. This is a last dance phenomenon. We all got this during the pandemic. This changed in viewing habits where Billy might be out on 10 episodes. But most people prefer 10 episodes now to a movie. That's.
Zaslow
No, I mean, I watched 10 episodes, just not of the Cowboys and Jerry Jones. Like, it's just not interesting.
Dan Le Batard
It just doesn't do it. I think it's pretty interesting, but the timing is not great for me to get through that many episodes. I need it in July. I mean, there's literally football this week. I'd rather watch the football than watch a documentary about football.
Greg Cody
Week zero. That's what we're gonna keep calling it. Where Greg Cody shaking his head sadly.
Billy Gil
I always hated week zero.
Don LeBatard
I don't think it's technically called week zero anymore.
Billy Gil
It shouldn't be.
Don LeBatard
I think we have like a big week one.
Billy Gil
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Formally, yeah.
Dan Le Batard
But in our hearts, week zero lives on.
Billy Gil
It's like a two week week one now. The games in week one are literally like 12 or 13 days apart.
Greg Cody
I can see on you guys, you guys have tells, you guys have talked about this before. The boredom that swept through the room as you guys just did the notes, the weak, lazy notes on. Oh, we did this last week. Let me see if I grab some of my best stuff, it was actually yesterday. And throw it at Dan half heartedly and see if he notices. You guys just threw a mountain of board and different shit at my face.
Dan Le Batard
Well, that's why we're trying to move past it quickly. If we sound excited about it, then we're just microwaving yesterday's leftovers.
Don LeBatard
I mean, we can't match the excitement of you falling down a flight of stairs.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, two steps. It wasn't a flight.
Zaslow
And he only missed one. He hit everyone with his back.
Billy Gil
It was a mini flight.
Zaslow
You're somehow both too old and too young to fall down two steps.
Dan Le Batard
I'll put it to you this way. If you order a flight of beers at a restaurant and they give you two, what do you say? That's not a flight.
Mike Ryan
It's gotta be four. It's a good point by Mike.
Billy Gil
Yeah, maybe five. Flight's five, right? In a restaurant. Yeah. Flight's five.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, look, it could be four, it could be five. One thing it ain't. Yeah, damn sure it's not two.
Mike Ryan
Rarely three. Honestly, I don't think I've ever seen a flight.
Greg Cody
Three.
Dan Le Batard
I'd be like, this is light for a flight.
Billy Gil
That's a stumble. Sure it's a stumble.
Mike Ryan
Like a flight to Tampa.
Greg Cody
All right, so. So how would you guys say what it is that happened to me?
Don LeBatard
You fell down a step, you tripped.
Billy Gil
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
You Tripped.
Billy Gil
I stumbled.
Mike Ryan
And to act like you weren't drinking like at 11 or 10 that night, you're like, alcohol, wasn't it?
Dan Le Batard
There was an umbrella in that drink.
Greg Cody
I on my vacation.
Mike Ryan
You guys are off day of drinking on vacation.
Billy Gil
You've been drinking all day with Jack Lord.
Dan Le Batard
You guys have me drinking. Jack Lord said me drinking on vacation.
Mike Ryan
In Hawaii, though sometimes on vacation you get to like that sixth day and you're like, I need a day.
Dan Le Batard
Which day did you trip?
Greg Cody
I will get to a number of the things that you guys just before.
Zaslow
After the Mike and Ike fiasco.
Greg Cody
Yeah, but Greg Cody shouting. Okay, Just shouting a Jack Lord reference. Okay, fine for me. When Jack Lord died, please. He was the star of Hawaii 5o. A show that has not died. Somehow, somehow it still exists. But not with Jack Lord in charge. So thank you for that joke.
Billy Gil
There wasn't a joke. I didn't know it died.
Greg Cody
I, I, oh, he did. I make him dead.
Mike Ryan
He died in 98.
Greg Cody
Oh, I thought you said he was 98. Okay, I thought that was a $50 fine. I don't know why it is you guys think that I would lie to you when I volunteer the falling down the flight of stairs, but the place that's a bridge too far for me is. Oh no, I was drunk. Like I'm volunteering the first part of it, right? And so I'm not lying to you when I say not only I was getting up in the middle of the night, I was not coming home in the middle of the night. I'm in bed at 10 o' clock at night.
Mike Ryan
Most night day drinking. I've been there.
Greg Cody
So four hours after waking up, I'm stumbling down the stairs with my phone, checking my phone.
Billy Gil
There you go.
Dan Le Batard
You're at the age where you shouldn't not be doing that.
Greg Cody
Yeah, look, I spent the last two years at the Clevelander following my father down the steps with my hands under his elbows. Always made me nervous he would not hold the guardrail. Cause he thinks he's 20 years younger than he is.
Dan Le Batard
Earlier this segment you said you were disconnected. Middle of the night on your phone is not disconnected.
Greg Cody
Okay, like you guys think I threw my phone into the sea for three weeks.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, we got you.
Greg Cody
You got me?
Dan Le Batard
Got you.
Greg Cody
You got me me. I've been cornered by you guys. So what did you get me on?
Billy Gil
Descending while checking 2 to 4am was his phone time.
Dan Le Batard
It was a doom scroll.
Greg Cody
It wasn't. It was not. It was not drinking. And it is something I should not do on the stairs. I don't think it's a flight of stairs, but I don't think, you guys. I mean, I don't think in describing it to somebody, when they say, what happened to your elbow? What happened to your knee? I don't think I stumbled or fell down a stair qualifies for what it is. That my.
Dan Le Batard
Looks like you fell down some stairs.
Mike Ryan
Fell down some stairs, yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Which is two for the record, but not a flight.
Billy Gil
Right? What are you checking on the phone at 2am I'm just curious. What's. What's the imperative there?
Don LeBatard
I don't tweets.
Greg Cody
I know, I know. I know that while Zaslow has said that we should only have one time zone and it should be the Lord's time zone.
Don LeBatard
Everyone knows that.
Greg Cody
What I will tell you what am I checking at 2 o' clock in the morning? What I love about Hawaii, I love everything about Hawaii. Maui is someplace that I could actually live. I don't say that about many places. Is that. That my 10:00pm baseball games are at 4:00 clock in the afternoon. My. My 7:00 p. All of sports is six hours earlier for me, so everybody is done early. I could go for that as the Lord's time zone. Six hours earlier. I mean, we're gonna. We're gonna change all this, right? Basketball's now gonna be on at 11 o' clock at night. All. All over the place. All of streaming is gonna change to be more international so these games could be more global. Right.
Dan Le Batard
So what time did you see a green dildo hit the corporate court?
Greg Cody
I heard that Greg and Chris went to a sex shop together.
Mike Ryan
You have to tune into the episode to find out whether we actually went in or not. But we went there.
Dan Le Batard
I'm catching up. I'm still on episode 46 now.
Billy Gil
Okay.
Greg Cody
Is it because Greg didn't believe that there were still. Or Chris didn't believe that there were still adult bookstores, as Greg called them?
Billy Gil
Exactly.
Mike Ryan
Well, I still fight that. I mean, I don't think that there are just places that only sell adult books.
Billy Gil
I took him to an adult entertainment center and he was shocked that it even existed.
Mike Ryan
Interesting choice.
Don LeBatard
Whatever happened to go to the video store and you have to go past the saloon doors to get to the adult movies?
Dan Le Batard
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Episode: Local Hour: Dan's Tumble Down a Flight of Stairs
Date: August 20, 2025
Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, the Local Hour reunion welcomes Greg Cody back from his vacation in Hawaii. The episode blends classic Le Batard Show sports irreverence with South Florida pop-culture commentary, and plenty of playful personal storytelling. Greg’s harrowing (?) “tumble down a flight of stairs” in Hawaii launches a meandering, laugh-laden conversation about injury definitions, the economics of nostalgia, Cowboys documentaries, football “blowouts,” and other highly debatable topics.
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On Greg’s stair “tumble”:
“My moaning momentum carried me because I missed the last two steps because I was in my phone.” — Greg Cody [09:26]
On sport’s obsession with nostalgia:
“It has been cartoonishly wonderful to watch as [Jerry Jones] behaves differently than any other owner and is held to a different standard… and he isn’t any good at that job. And he hasn’t been any good at that job for 30 years. He’s only good at telling you he’s good at that job.” — Greg Cody [31:55]
On the face of the NFL:
“Can the face of a league ever be an owner…?” — Billy Gil [33:58]
On blunders and masculinity:
“Every man over 40 thinks he’s 20 years younger than he actually is.” — Greg Cody [14:42]
On rare football outcomes:
“How weird are shutouts anymore? … when you get one, it’s a big deal.” — Billy Gil [25:01]
The episode maintains the Le Batard hallmarks: loose, conversational, playful, with plenty of sports-adjacent diversions and ironic “stakes.” Greg Cody’s self-deprecation and age-driven nostalgia is a main engine; the crew’s willingness to roast him—and each other—keeps the mood irreverent.
Fans and newcomers alike will find classic Le Batard Show appeal here: a mix of sports takes, embarrassing stories, pop culture, and “old man yells at cloud” energy. The episode’s main throughlines—Greg’s not-really-a-flight fall, the economics of nostalgia, what truly constitutes a sports “blowout,” and the mythos of the Dallas Cowboys—are all handled with humor, humility, and plenty of polling for the audience.
TL;DR:
Greg Cody’s “flight of stairs” wasn’t much of a flight; Cowboys nostalgia is more valuable than wins; and in Miami, every debate is an excuse for laughter, teasing, and an audience poll.