Local Hour: Desecrating The Cane

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Local Hour: Desecrating The Cane
Date: November 11, 2025

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Episode Overview

Broadcasted from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, today’s "Local Hour" is classic Le Batard Show mayhem: a mash-up of sports analysis, family banter, and the strange emotional journey of Greg Cody and his father's cane. The crew debates the nuanced hierarchy of crying (from weeping to wailing), shares Heat basketball insights—particularly the impact of Norman Powell’s arrival—and dishes out stories both hilarious and touching about family, aging, and Miami sports culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Hierarchy of Crying

• The episode opens with Chris Cody’s emotional vulnerability and the family debate on the emotional spectrum of crying. There is a passionate and comic parsing of "weeping" vs. "sobbing" vs. "bawling," and where "wailing" and "blubbering" fit in.
  • Memorable Quotes:
    • “Weeping is the neighbor of sobbing.” — Chris Cody [02:57]
    • “Weeping is silent. To me, sobbing is loud.” — Roy [03:31]
    • “Weeping is a single file line of tears, one at a time, whereas sobbing... It’s like they’re everywhere.” — Dan Le Batard [04:07]
  • The crew constructs the "tiers of tears" pyramid, humorously placing famous sports crying moments into their respective categories (Nancy Kerrigan, Haslem, Thomas Hill, etc.) [09:04–10:25]

2. Greg Cody’s Cane: Honor or Desecration?

• The emotional centerpiece is Greg Cody’s use—and Chris’ alleged misuse—of his late father’s cane. The group puts this on "trial," debating if using the cane as a prop was honoring or desecrating the memory.
  • Memorable Quotes:
    • “Is that honoring him, or is it desecrating it?” — Greg Cody [11:51]
    • “It’s a disgrace... forgivable, unforgiven.” — Tony, ruling on the matter as ‘judge’ [14:18]
  • Chris confesses to kissing the cane ("kissing the shaft" becomes a running innuendo), revealing his unexpected emotional connection to it. [19:34–20:10]
  • Greg offers support: “You have very few things that keep him alive. This would be one of them… You shouldn’t be embarrassed.” [20:14]
• The cane saga spirals: family comedy, a penalty for "desecration," and inevitable double entendre jokes.

3. Life at Home: Jumping Charlie and League Politics

• Chris’s massive dog “Jumping Charlie” is "getting fat," and is largely untrainable. The chaos of home—dog and cat fighting—plays out on Chris’s podcast, mirroring his struggles as "commissioner" of the family’s PFPI picks league.
  • Greg pokes fun at Chris’s grandiose "league commissioner" title, calling him out for not explaining things to the audience [23:29–23:44]
  • A hilarious aside involves a failed vote, familial betrayals, and the everyday comedy of living with rambunctious pets. [24:11–26:46]

4. Cane Logistics: Which Hand?

• A genuinely useful, but still comic, segment emerges when the group debates which hand the cane should be held in relative to the injured leg.
  • Chris claims he was taught by a physical therapist to use the cane on the opposite side of the injury, prompting denials and a Google search.
  • Quote: “According to Google AI… you hold it in the opposite hand of your weak or injured leg.” — Dan Le Batard [29:05]
  • Greg delivers a victorious “Helloooo!” after being validated. [29:16–29:40]

5. Miami Heat Talk: Norman Powell's Arrival

• The latter half of the show shifts to NBA banter, with an emphasis on the Miami Heat’s thrilling victory over Cleveland and Norman Powell’s unexpectedly ascendant role.
  • Greg contextualizes the Heat’s success as a classic Miami story: overlooked players excelling after arrival [35:17–36:59]
  • The group analyzes the final, wild shot by Donovan Mitchell, including a lively debate about whether he stepped out of bounds [37:00–38:25]
  • Jeremy offers a detailed, play-by-play breakdown of the game-winning Heat play, including behind-the-scenes details of Spoelstra delegating to Chris Quinn. [40:36–41:20]
  • Greg humorously hovers over the “cut” button as Jeremy’s breakdowns get too detailed: “That is not a journalist.” [43:46]
  • Evaluation of Heat’s unconventional, positionless offense and discussion of whether their style can succeed deep in the playoffs. [46:08–47:48]
  • Context: Norman Powell trade lauded as a Miami masterstroke, with comparisons to “2004 Heat.” [44:50–45:05]
  • Quote: “Why can’t this be like 2004? An unexpected team… Now pool these really good young players, and we get a super duper star.” — Tony [45:05]
  • The segment ends with a tongue-in-cheek debate: which was a bigger loss for the Clippers, Norman Powell or Pablo Torre? [48:27]

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “[Weeping and sobbing] are on the same street, but end of the cul de sac.” — Dan Le Batard [03:17]
• “So you changed your mind here in the last couple of days, something happened…” — Greg Cody, on Greg’s decision to finally use the cane [21:23]
• “We’re doing the tiers of tears.” — Greg Cody [08:53]
• “If there is anything being honored in [your garage], I might think that that’s the only thing, because there’s nothing else you put up on a wall…” — Greg Cody [12:19]
• “The cane is in replacement of the [injured] leg.” — Tony [28:47]
• “He’s never been weaker or stronger.” — Dan Le Batard, on Greg [29:44]
• “Norman Powell must be frustrated, snubbed for the All Star Game last year that he had to be in the shadow… Nobody knows how good that guy was last year.” — Dan Le Batard [36:13 & 48:00]
• “Norman Powell was brought here to be their number three option, but even if you want to make them 1A, 1B, 1C...He's their best offensive [player].” — Jeremy [45:05]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Hierarchy of tears discussion: [02:57]–[10:25]
• Cane “trial” and family stories: [11:08]–[16:01]
• Chris’s embarrassment over kissing the cane: [19:34]–[20:29]
• Debate over proper cane use: [28:01]–[31:11]
• Miami Heat / Norman Powell / Game breakdown: [35:13]–[48:31]

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The Show’s Signature Tone

Playful, self-deprecating, and tangential—“Desecrating The Cane” is equal parts family therapy session, Miami sports breakdown, and absurdist comedy. The hosts’ unique rapport delivers both heartfelt and hilarious moments: from Greg’s touching reflection on his late father to the show’s endless running jokes and meta-commentary.

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For New Listeners: Why This Episode Matters

If you’ve never listened, this episode is a microcosm of why “The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz” stands out: wide-ranging sports chat, local Miami color, and the kind of personality-driven storytelling that turns a simple family heirloom into a courtroom comedy and a meditation on loss—all before a rant on NBA roster construction.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Tony]

Smirnoff.

[Dan LeBatard]

Wow, you're on the money with Smirnoff.

[Greg Cody]

Smirnoff.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm gonna ask you, Chris, what's your favorite game day food?

[Greg Cody]

Smirnoff.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's your favorite game day drink. What's your favorite game day food?

[Greg Cody]

Smirnoff.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, here's the deal. Game day is everything. The noise, the rituals, the passion, the dip, the wings, the dip again. Smirnoff. Smirnoff belongs in that mix. Because if you're tailgating or hosting or just sitting there checking your fantasy lineup every 30 seconds, you need Smirnoff. Otherwise, it's not a real game day. They've been doing it since 1864, which is. I don't even want to do the math. It's a long time. It's like when Greg Cody was born. They're award winning, they make cocktails super easy, and they're all about bringing fans together. So, yeah, we do game days. That's their thing. And if you're over 21, you should too. Why, Chris?

[Greg Cody]

Smirnoff.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Greg Cody]

It's time for WhatsApp message privately with everyone. Learn [e-mail] this episode is brought to you by US Cellular. Hey, real quick. When was the last time you got something that was fast, reliable and affordable? Like almost never, right? Well, US Cellular home Internet is breaking that streak. You get fast speeds, a rock solid connection and a super sweet price. Just $39.99 a month. When you bundle it with a wireless plan, that means you can stream, scroll, shop and binge without lag or crazy bills. It's not magic, it's just really good Internet. Check out US Cellular Home Internet today terms apply. Visit uscellular.com for all the details. Chris, you should know better than to agitate your father. As soon as we're starting what we're doing here, you come into the room and your dad has limped in with a cane, and you're badgering him about. You get emotional these days about anything. And you say you weeped on the podcast, and I really thought your father was going to correct you there and say, it's wept, kid. I'm a writer. I thought he was going to be offended. He didn't. He didn't do that. He said weeped is too strong. Fought back a tear or two is how he would phrase it. So why are you getting so emotional and fighting back tears but not weeping?

[Chris Cody]

Okay, there's an obvious line there. Everybody knows it. When you. When you weep, you're like openly, almost sobbing. Weeping is the neighbor of sobbing.

[Greg Cody]

It is. It might be the neighbor of sobbing, but it's not a synonym with sobbing. Weeping is to stop before sobbing.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, I think they're neighbors. I think they're. They're exchanging cups of sugar.

[Dan LeBatard]

End of the culdesac.

[Chris Cody]

They're friendly.

[Dan LeBatard]

They're on the same street, but end of the cul de sac.

[Chris Cody]

Okay? Weeping and sobbing. To me, you go.

[Dan LeBatard]

That'S sobbing.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, well, to me, that's weeping.

[Tony]

That's being a.

[Chris Cody]

To me, weeping is just like I wept.

[Dan LeBatard]

Weeping is silent.

[Roy]

To me, sobbing is loud.

[Dan LeBatard]

A few breaths. Weeping is just a few breaths. You know, I'm crying. It's.

[Chris Cody]

Okay.

[Greg Cody]

At any rate, sobbing has shoulders shaking. It's a bit uncontrollable. Weeping is single tears. Sobbing is a flume of tears.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't agree with that at all.

[Chris Cody]

There's no such thing as a single.

[Dan LeBatard]

Tears requires several tears. Weeping is stronger than crying.

[Greg Cody]

I said weeping is single tears, not a single tear. It's just a tear or two or three or four. Whereas sobbing is just a river of tears. You can't control it. Weeping is the stop before sobbing.

[Dan LeBatard]

Weeping is a single file line of tears, one at a time, whereas sobbing. It's like they're everywhere.

[Chris Cody]

It's just.

[Dan LeBatard]

They're just pouring down my face.

[Chris Cody]

You're given sobbing too much credit. Weeping is about as emotional as you get when you weep. There's nothing left like weeping is. I almost said worse. Weeping is more than sobbing. No, in my opinion.

[Greg Cody]

No.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, yeah, this is wild.

[Chris Cody]

Sob is bad.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, well, can we get to the answ, please?

[Chris Cody]

I forgot. What was the question?

[Greg Cody]

Why are you getting emotional? Why Are you fighting back tears, Weeping, sobbing?

[Chris Cody]

I mean, a couple of things came up on my podcast that, that made me emotional. I mean, you know, I do find the older I get, the, the. The more prone I am to weeping.

[Greg Cody]

Not sobbing, but where's bawling on the list?

[Chris Cody]

Oh, balling, please.

[Dan LeBatard]

See, now that now sobbing and bawling neighbors, they might even be like in a park in the same apartment building.

[Tony]

Tell you who's balling. Norman Powell.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Tony]

You know that Norman Powell says that's my gimmick.

[Chris Cody]

Yo, when I, by the way, I lauded the Norman Powell trade, I. That's another thing I predicted, right? When I referred to it.

[Greg Cody]

Wait a minute. What's. Wait a minute? Another thing you predicted, right? Are you going to take credit for the Dolphins today?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. I mean, you saw the game Sunday. The Dolphins showed up. It took until mid season, but they showed up. My Dolphins.

[Greg Cody]

Another thing you predicted, right?

[Chris Cody]

I lauded the Norman Powell. I called it a pickpocket for. For Pat Riley. He. He got Norman Powell for nothing. Now, Norman Powell ranks on. On everyone's early season MVP list.

[Greg Cody]

He was an All Star last year, wasn't he? Or should. He was an all star. Correct.

[Tony]

Just to confirm you, right from the get go, you thought it was a good trade. Norman Powell and just giving up Kevin Love and Kyle Anderson.

[Chris Cody]

Yes. Yeah. I need your support.

[Dan LeBatard]

Norman Powell was not an all Star. He was a snub last year. He's just on the outside looking in.

[Chris Cody]

But the Heat saw something.

[Greg Cody]

All right, so the Norman Powell story, just to be clear, you figured out the way to make that about you.

[Chris Cody]

Well, I mean, you know, nobody else was applauding the.

[Greg Cody]

Everybody was. Craig, no. Greg, Mike Ryan went from being out on the Heat to. Never mind. I cancel all my opinions based on nothing but the acquisition of Norman Powell.

[Chris Cody]

The thing about that is he's got such a plain name. There's never been a Norman Powell. That excites you?

[Tony]

There was never a moment you thought Kevin Love Kyle Anderson too much?

[Chris Cody]

No.

[Greg Cody]

Nobody thought that.

[Chris Cody]

Yes. He's wood. Give me pieces of driftwood.

[Greg Cody]

Give me the greatest Norm ever in the history of sports. Norms. Sports. Norm Nixon. Is that going to be the best of the third guy on the champion Lakers? The fourth guy on the champion Lakers team? The fourth guy on a champion Lakers team. Norm Nixon is going to be.

[Dan LeBatard]

I know who Norm Nixon is, but.

[Chris Cody]

Tell Tony I want Norm, baby. Come on, Norman. Not Norm. Norm outranks Norman. I'm looking for a great Norman.

[Greg Cody]

So Norm outranks Norman and saab doesn't outrank. Weeping outranks sobbing.

[Chris Cody]

Weeping has an emotional level to it that sobbing does not.

[Greg Cody]

All right, we're off to a roaring start here, Josh. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast. That was a really great basketball game. What a night last night. Greg Cody insists that he's right about the Dolphins, and I will get to those things in a second. But I have to start with our old friend Greg Cody limping in here with his trick knee and a cane. A cane that has made him emotional for good reason. Jeremy asked me during the intro, is wailing atop bawling, sobbing and weeping. Because I think wailing is. If we're talking about being in tears, I think weeping is the beginning of the highway. The highway toward. You're falling apart. Weeping is. Is the beginning of that. I think it goes. Weeping, sobbing, bawling, wailing.

[Dan LeBatard]

Where's crying?

[Greg Cody]

Crying's the starting point. Crying is ground zero.

[Dan LeBatard]

But where do you have blubbering on that list? Because blubbering, I don't know if that's above wailing, but it's right there.

[Greg Cody]

Blubbering has to be above sobbing, doesn't it? Although sobbing has some blubbering, does it not?

[Chris Cody]

Blubbering is a cartoon word.

[Tony]

I think hysterical is obviously that. That's. That's a very deep cry. I think wailing is the deep cry with like. Like, that's a whale. Okay. And blubbering.

[Dan LeBatard]

Blubbering.

[Tony]

You also have snot bubbles.

[Dan LeBatard]

Blubbering is the.

[Tony]

Yeah, that's not bubbles.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, that's sniveling.

[Greg Cody]

That's. That's sobbing too, though.

[Dan LeBatard]

So what are we calling this?

[Roy]

Calling this the tears of tears.

[Greg Cody]

Ah, that's what we're doing, Roy. We're doing the tiers of tears.

[Dan LeBatard]

An important tier. The no Shaw Moreno during the national anthem tier. Where does that rank? Because that is a massive tier.

[Greg Cody]

That's the fight in Detroit.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's what that is.

[Greg Cody]

All right, you guys gotta figure out how it is to get me to the best of the ugly criers you've ever seen in sports, because now we have to get to who classifies for wailing, bawling, sobbing, weeping in the history of sports.

[Tony]

A good, good crier in sports, Thomas Hill, after Christian Laettner makes the shot. Thomas Hill, ugly crier.

[Greg Cody]

Can you guys think off of the top of your head of some time you have seen an athlete just sobbing? Oddly enough, the image that. The image that surprises me as we talk about it is you done is haslam in the heat locker room in 2006. I don't think that's something. That's. That. That was public, but I just was startled by it because it's someone. Since I covered since high school, and all of his emotion never looked like that. Like, obviously, you know how much he cares.

[Tony]

That was sobbing.

[Greg Cody]

But, yes, that was. Yes, that was sobbing. And I was just caught off guard by it.

[Chris Cody]

I think sobbing has a volume to it. Like, I don't think you sob quietly. I think if you're sobbing, someone else with their eyes closed knows it. That guy's sobbing. Because sobbing is a heaving.

[Greg Cody]

I think everything after weeping that we described here has a sound to it that you can hear with your eyes closed.

[Dan LeBatard]

How about Nancy Kerrigan?

[Roy]

But that was more pain inflicted.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, but that was sobbing. That's wailing. That's wailing, Jennings.

[Dan LeBatard]

I knew that was coming. He's right about that. As soon as we said wailing.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, I have to.

[Greg Cody]

Anyway, the emotion that we were talking about with your cane. You come in here in a cane. Your son told us yesterday. I also want to get to jumping Charlie because you were complaining about his weight gain and how generally unruly he is your dog. But Chris is alleging. The reason we're talking about wailing, sobbing, and gnashing and all of these things is because Chris is alleging that you get more emotional now than you ever have, and you get emotional. He's claiming over some small, small things like him just telling you that your granddaughter went to soccer practice.

[Chris Cody]

This.

[Greg Cody]

So what's happening with your cane right now?

[Chris Cody]

Well, here it is. Here. It's. It's a lovely wooden cane that.

[Tony]

Are you gonna cry now? Because if you are, like, I gotta mentally prepare.

[Chris Cody]

No, no, no.

[Dan LeBatard]

Prepare yourself.

[Chris Cody]

No, I'm not gonna cry right now. But this cane, I believe it was bought in a. In a. In a deep south general store, like in North Carolina or someplace. And it was my dad sleeping his life when he used the cane. And this cane had not been touched for more than a decade. It had been.

[Dan LeBatard]

I. I did use it as my first foray as the owner of the Cyclones.

[Chris Cody]

You're right. Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

But I don't know that it hadn't been.

[Roy]

Is that desecrating it or.

[Chris Cody]

No? I think it is.

[Greg Cody]

I think that's honoring it. I think. Wait a minute. What? Do you fit the character we need? The judge we need. Is that honoring him, or is it desecrating it? We'll get to the rest of the.

[Tony]

Story, but let's make Zaslow give Me the details again.

[Greg Cody]

Make real quick. Make a ruling. Greg Cody was alleging that this cane of his father's, Wild Bill Cody, had not been used in 10 years. Had been in the garage or somewhere else.

[Chris Cody]

It had been on two nails on top of a door in the garage.

[Greg Cody]

Okay.

[Chris Cody]

So not been used by me in more than a decade.

[Greg Cody]

All right, hold on a second. Before we go down this path, that garage is an atrocity. If there is anything being honored.

[Chris Cody]

My atrocity.

[Greg Cody]

It is your atrocity. That garage has been an atrocity for 40 years. It is dirty. It is. It is out of saw. It is awful. But if there is anything being honored in there, I might think that that's the only thing, because there's nothing else that you put up on a wall to. I've. That's been above the door in your garage since your father was alive, I feel like.

[Chris Cody]

Correct? Yes.

[Greg Cody]

When did he. When did he pass away?

[Chris Cody]

2006.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, so that's the only thing in your garage that is an honor of any kind to anyone?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Right.

[Greg Cody]

All right, so you're. He's saying that it hadn't been taken off for 10 years, but one day old parasol. Parasol wielding owner of the Cyclones comes in there and says, I need something funny as an outfit for my owner of a highlight team. And he reaches up there. It's probably dusty, right? It's probably got. Because I don't see your father cleaning that a whole lot. You reach up there and you grab what you think is a gimmick to. To get. To give your ownership of the highlight team some personality. And so the question before says is, was Chris Cody honoring Wild. Wild Bill Cody or was he desecrating what was happening with Wild Bill Cody?

[Roy]

All rise. The honorable Jonathan Zaslow now presiding with prejudice.

[Tony]

I need one final piece of information, and it comes from Greg Cody. Did you know that Christopher was taking the cane for this event?

[Chris Cody]

I don't believe I did.

[Tony]

Now, with that said, how would you have felt if you knew that he was taking it for this event?

[Chris Cody]

I would have been taken aback a little bit. I would have been surprised.

[Tony]

I made my ruling.

[Greg Cody]

Whoa.

[Tony]

It's a disgrace.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, my God.

[Tony]

Forgivable. Unforgiven. That's all I needed to hear. That. That's the only information I needed right there. That's a disgrace.

[Chris Cody]

Well, I support the ruling.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. If it's true. If it is indeed true, and I'm not sure it is, because I can see Greg forgetting, but I can also. I can also see his son not Asking permission because he knew that permission was going to be no. That you ask for forgiveness.

[Dan LeBatard]

Learn that. Learn that from around here.

[Greg Cody]

As for forgiveness, not for permission. Yeah, I was trying to teach that the entire time. At espn, they never really believe. So tell us the story then. Forgive us for interrupting you. Excellent ruling, Tony. Good work. By you. In fact, you know, delayed penalty on Chris Cody for desecrating Wild Bill Cody's cane.

[Dan LeBatard]

Penalty for that.

[Greg Cody]

Minor penalty.

[Dan LeBatard]

Two minutes, asshole.

[Greg Cody]

It's two minutes for asshole. It's not two minutes, comma, asshole. Like, I don't know why they read it like that. It might be because they don't know how to do comedy. Who did that? You know who did that? It's two minutes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Come on.

[Greg Cody]

You know it's two minutes for being an asshole and it should be five minutes. Anyway, tell us the story.

[Chris Cody]

I'm just curious though, in the history of the show, who is the previous person penalized for desecrating a cane? I'm just curious how common that. That particular.

[Greg Cody]

I was once disrespectful of Warren Sapp. Come on, that's a good joke.

[Chris Cody]

I saw what you did.

[Greg Cody]

Come on, that's a joke. In the local hour. A cane joke.

[Chris Cody]

No, that's not. Oh, no, that wasn't bad prejudice.

[Dan LeBatard]

Thank you, Royal.

[Greg Cody]

The bad breath joke.

[Chris Cody]

It wasn't bad.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, man, it's a legendary joke. St got me in trouble with Warren Sapp for saying that he had chronic allitosis.

[Chris Cody]

Did he?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. But I told him that privately.

[Chris Cody]

The truth is the best offense.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Roy]

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[Tony]

Don LeBatard yeah, imagine if someone told.

[Dan LeBatard]

You you couldn't have a Corvette.

[Chris Cody]

Stugats I'm a grown ass man who's not. Who's not filthy rich. I can't afford a Lamborghini. Well, I probably can, but that's.

[Roy]

Hey.

[Tony]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

[Greg Cody]

Anyway, the story of your cane.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, I didn't realize how much this cane meant to me until I started actually using it as a cane. And it just made me think of my dad a lot. And sometimes if I do get emotional on my podcast, I say things that are embarrassing and that I instantly wish I hadn't said. But I admitted on my current episode that dropped yesterday. That, and, and I'm embarrassed to say it now, but I was alone in my house one day, gone, and I kissed the cane and embraced it. And it just felt good to do that.

[Greg Cody]

Why would you be embarrassed to say that?

[Chris Cody]

Because I'm kissing a piece of wood.

[Greg Cody]

It reminds you of your late father, though. Like, you have very little, very few things that keep him alive. This would be one of them, that, that Very, very few material things that would keep him alive, certainly. And so that's a beautiful story. You shouldn't be embarrassed by that.

[Chris Cody]

Well, thank you.

[Greg Cody]

In fact, I would say that after a lifetime of knowing you to be somewhat repressed with your feelings, it's not surprising to me that late in life, as you consider your mortality, you consider your dad's frailty when you didn't know him to be a frail man. But at the end, he needed to walk with a cane. And you stubbornly tell your son that you don't want to use this cane, but you come in with it today. So you changed your mind here in the last couple of days, something happened because he said that Earlene was very frustrated with you because you weren't using the cane at home.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. You know, I think my knee's fine. I don't need anything. But she and I saw the physical therapist yesterday for my first session, and he said I should use the cane a little bit longer as well. So I'm pleased to use the cane.

[Greg Cody]

You know the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody with.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Does it have any other things in it that are teasable things that would make people go over there to hear about an old man hugging his wooden walking stick?

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, kissing the shaft.

[Chris Cody]

I, I, I talked a lot about desecrating again.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's desecrating giving details to the audio audience. Grandfathers could have been the test. Could have been the handle Penalty. Two minutes. I don't know if I'm listening. If I'm only listening. I don't know where he kissed it.

[Chris Cody]

There is a funny exchange on the podcast. He says, did you kiss the tip? Come on.

[Greg Cody]

He just did the shaft joke again, thinking about it all night. And you did it?

[Dan LeBatard]

He said he saved that one for here.

[Greg Cody]

The tip exclusive. Thank you, Chris. You're doing great work. The tip was an exclusive. When you're executive producing the Greg Cody.

[Chris Cody]

Show featuring Greg Cody, nothing is sacred.

[Greg Cody]

You turn it into the shaft when you're in here.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Tony]

My father's talking about what your grandfather means to him and you're talking about kissing a shaft.

[Chris Cody]

Thank you.

[Greg Cody]

So thank you, Zaslo, for the support of. Thank you for.

[Chris Cody]

Thank you for that clarification.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you for the support that is needed around here because that's disrespectful. We'll get to the Heat game in a second and we'll get to Greg Cody being right in a second. But why has Jumping Charlie gotten fat?

[Tony]

Well, holds.

[Chris Cody]

He. He's three and three and a half. Still a young dog, fully grown, but somehow growing. No, he's. I think he's pushing £100 now. 90, 95. And he just doesn't get enough exercise. We tried taking him to the dog park. He won't have it. He does run like a maniac in my backyard. But. But, you know, that's only so big and so he gains a little bit. Little bit of weight. But there was a funny aside in the podcast when I'm trying to have a serious conversation with my granddaughter about her betrayal on. On her punishment powers vote and in the background.

[Greg Cody]

What does that mean?

[Chris Cody]

I mean, what.

[Greg Cody]

What did you just say? What did. What did you just say?

[Chris Cody]

I need your support, Greg. I needed her support and she didn't give it.

[Greg Cody]

Greg.

[Chris Cody]

What?

[Greg Cody]

You can't say my granddaughter. You got to give the audience more than that. You can't assume that everyone listening to this listens to every episode of the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody and knows what your granddaughter's betrayal means. What was the phrase you used after that?

[Chris Cody]

The punishment powers. We had a PFPI commissioner proposed a punishment power in which repeated offenders on the weekly deadline to submit picks would. Would go through a series of warnings leading up to an eventual one game.

[Greg Cody]

Tony has a question.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dan.

[Roy]

Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

When he talks about the PFPI and talks about the commissioner, isn't he the commissioner of said league?

[Chris Cody]

Yes, I am.

[Dan LeBatard]

So why didn't you just say I put together a vote instead of the commissioner? It feels like that's more, well, grandiose.

[Chris Cody]

I'm speaking in the. In the third person because I'm honoring the office of the commissioner. You know, whenever I refer to the league, it's uppercase.

[Dan LeBatard]

L. I always turn in my pick slate. So my dad, the commissioner proposed, hey, if you're late more than one, more than a few times, you get punished. And we went around, everyone voted on whether this was fair. And it all, it all came out. It all came down to my daughter. Wow.

[Chris Cody]

And we needed a 5:3 majority vote. It ended up being a 4:4 vote. And I was betrayed by my youngest son, Michael, and by my granddaughter. I anticipated both of their support and got neither. I need your support. Exactly. Yes, I did. And she didn't give it. And so I need your support. And I was asking her on the podcast why she voted like she did. And in the middle of that serious conversation, the dog and the cat are hissing and clawing and just acting like animals in the background. They are, but they don't have to act on my air.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, well, they act like animals, at least in part, because the cat is untrainable as a cat. And you've poorly trained Jumping Charlie. You sent him out for boot camp, and he learned a few things that he does when he's at boot camp, but then he does whatever he wants at your house. And I've seen, like, this dog is unreasonable. And what's happening here between, like, I'm surprised that this doesn't escalate. Let's see. Does this have sound? Because the video's great. But here is the Greg Cody Cody show, featuring Greg Cody. You will see in the foreground, you will see his beloved cane that he hugs while weeping or sobbing or wailing. And you should, you know, you should not call that the tip or the shaft. It's his beloved uncle. His father is wild. Wild Bill Cody's cane that's in the foreground. This is a work of art. What's happening right here in terms of look back into the past. And here's what the 1950s looked like.

[Chris Cody]

Somebody in the league.

[Dan LeBatard]

Charlie and the cat.

[Greg Cody]

Hold on, dad. We're getting a free show right here.

[Dan LeBatard]

For our YouTube channel.

[Roy]

Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, that's two hisses from Charlie. I mean, from Ollie.

[Chris Cody]

No, hey, Charlie. No, no.

[Greg Cody]

That dog is not trained. That is not a trained animal. What did he tear up?

[Roy]

There he goes. Look at this jerk.

[Greg Cody]

What did he tear apart? There were. There was fluff all over the place.

[Dan LeBatard]

Like a blanket that stays on that couch.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, it's a dog blanket. It's fine.

[Greg Cody]

It's fine. He's got fragments of blanket in his mouth.

[Chris Cody]

That dog will kill me one day. I thought about that walking on a cane the other day. If that dog unintentionally runs into me and knocks me off my pins, I'm in trouble.

[Greg Cody]

That has happened to me at the dog park with my dog, where he hits me in the legs and I go straight down face first, which is, you don't want to have happen at a dog park, because face first is just shit. And you're like, isn't that Dan LeBatard? Yes, it was me.

[Chris Cody]

Doesn't he hire a dog walker?

[Greg Cody]

Gets up, he's got shit on his face. I mean, I could have. That's Dan. I could. That could have absolutely happened. Like there but for the grace of God. Do I not have shit all over my face? As my dog has taken out one of my pins, as he called it. So where are you on the cane? So you've come around and now, cuz I gotta tell you, you walked in here today and you looked regal. I don't know. I have very rarely in my life felt softer toward you than watching you walk in here. You don't like to show weakness. You don't. You're a stubborn old man.

[Dan LeBatard]

Didn't the doctor tell you you're holding the cane with the wrong hand?

[Chris Cody]

Yes, that's the first. No, not the doctor. The physical therapist yesterday, he. In the first five seconds of seeing me, he says, you're holding the cane wrong. We're gonna get to that right away.

[Greg Cody]

Well, it is funny. It's your right knee, correct?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

You've been holding the cane in your left hand the entire time.

[Chris Cody]

Well, that's the correct time, the correct way.

[Greg Cody]

It is it.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Tony]

No, it's not.

[Chris Cody]

Yes, it is. Look it up, as I like to say.

[Dan LeBatard]

So you. You're saying you had it in your right hand when he told you you.

[Chris Cody]

Were doing it incorrectly?

[Greg Cody]

I thought I was. I thought he's wrong that you're keeping weight off of the leg.

[Chris Cody]

I thought so too. Erroneously. No. All the cane people out there, all my canes stand up, but carefully.

[Tony]

The cane is in replace.

[Chris Cody]

Exactly. Thank you.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's a gold.

[Roy]

That kind of thing.

[Chris Cody]

No, Everybody's nodding like a bobblehead because I'm right.

[Tony]

The cane is in replacement of the leg.

[Chris Cody]

All I can tell you is I.

[Greg Cody]

Think you've got a quack.

[Dan LeBatard]

According to Google AI, Greg Cody is right. You hold it in the opposite hand of your weak or injured leg.

[Tony]

Hello?

[Chris Cody]

I need your support.

[Greg Cody]

Hello.

[Chris Cody]

You don't trust me. You were wrong in this Earth for 70 years.

[Dan LeBatard]

In our defense, you were wrong yesterday.

[Chris Cody]

Gaining information every step of the way.

[Greg Cody]

I want to get that off the ground as a celebration. When you are maximum right about something, you summon some Ethel Merman, some Shirley Temple, and you just say hello.

[Chris Cody]

If you want to make the E and A. I don't object. Hello.

[Roy]

You know he's gonna be done an hour too, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

He's got nothing left after this.

[Greg Cody]

What a heater like he has given us 25, 25 minutes of flames. He's throwing 107 out of the bullpen. I've missed him so much. He's never been weaker or stronger.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't have eyebrows.

[Greg Cody]

I mean, he singed me. He is totally on fire. Can you tell me the hello that's as victorious as I've ever heard you? It's the world's strangest victory lap and I can't believe you're right about this. I believe that the audience sides with us in thinking that the cane is something that is put on the side of the body so that you're not making the leg that is surgically repaired weight bearing.

[Chris Cody]

I thought the exact same thing. For days. I was walking like this because it was my right knee and that does.

[Greg Cody]

Keep pressure off it. It makes it hurt less to walk that way. Right. The other way you're putting full weight on your right knee.

[Chris Cody]

That's what I would have thought. But that's the first thing the physical therapist said. He identified a man using a cane in his wrong hand and instructed me. And sure enough, it's accurate. It doesn't make any sense to me either.

[Tony]

Makes no sense.

[Chris Cody]

It doesn't make sense to me either. We need to get a physical therapist on the line to explain the who's and what fors, but I know now I'm walking correctly with a cane.

[Dan LeBatard]

Cleveland Clinic says that if you have an injured or weaker side, you hold your cane on the opposite or stronger side. And presumably that's because if you're going to be exerting force on that cane, you're going to be needing to support yourself. You're using your stronger side to do so, despite the fact that but seemingly it doesn't allow you to take the weight off of that leg.

[Roy]

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[Tony]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach. I'm very confused.

[Greg Cody]

As am I. As I imagine the audience is. And when Jeremy mentions Cleveland Clinic. It was Miami's clinic clinic last night. Cleveland had it fall on their head at the end of the game.

[Roy]

What a dance.

[Tony]

What a night.

[Chris Cody]

Wow.

[Greg Cody]

Can you guys tell me even understanding that Eric Spoelstra had the worst season of his life last year, calling a timeout at the end of the game that he doesn't have, just costing his team the game. His percentage point rating with the GMs in the league who vote on such things went down because Eric Spoelstra had a bad year last year. The results were bad and he had a bad year. Everything that Eric Spolster was about sort of got torched from the inside on the last flames of Jimmy Butler. Have fun with that Golden State. What Miami has done in the interim is what it usually does, which is guy you thought was nothing gets here and is better than that, or guy you may have thought was underrated gets here and becomes a lot better than that. Norman Powell must be frustrated, snubbed for the All Star Game last year that he had to be in the shadow of three guys with the Clippers who now flail without him. They lost last night to Atlanta at home. They're relying on James Harden to be the center of that team. And Norman Powell has been given the opportunity in Miami that Tyreek Hill was given in Miami. Hey, cared about basketball all your life. Care the way you done is Haslam cares when he's sobbing in the locker room. Care to be the number one here and wow, more points through seven games by a lot than any Heat player. You trust him because he can do all of the things offensively, like all of them. It's not just Haquez now who's not giving you necessarily threes. Powell can do all of the things offensively. You're playing Cleveland and you're holding off at the end. A barrage from Sam Merrill and Donovan Mitchell making the most ridiculous of shots.

[Tony]

I was cheating on that last play, though.

[Greg Cody]

I can't take that play away from Donovan Mitchell. Even if he had been behind the bench, like if so far out of bounds, like I have to give him that sh. Because to not give him that shot would be wrong. That's Khalil Ware coming at him and he's just that whole sequence at the end was ridiculous. I believe Cleveland's the best team in the East. I not saying anything shocking there. For the last couple of years I felt like they have been except they can't beat New York. They don't have a chance against New York because every time they play New York, New York matches up well against them. But Donovan Mitchell's a special player and at the end of what what that game was yesterday, he made a special shot that had former Heat member Thomas Bryant on the Cavs bench, making the face we were all making, which is like, how the hell did he make that? That's the tallest player on the court, one of the most athletic, coming at him, arms outstretched. He's got his back to the basket, and he turns around and just throws up a shot. That's a good deal higher than the average shot.

[Tony]

He was out of bounds.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, but the flight. Are we in agreement that the flight of the ball was not even a normal jump shots flight? Like this is a punt landing in the basket and you're going to keep doing out of bounds?

[Tony]

Well, yeah, because if you go out of bounds, that's cheating.

[Dan LeBatard]

Twice it looked like he went out.

[Tony]

Yeah, he was definitely out of bounds. I have no idea if they can or if they did review it, but he was out of bounds. That's it.

[Dan LeBatard]

The parabola of the shot was like Steph Curry versus Wemby. Ish. Right. Remember when.

[Greg Cody]

When Steph had to throw it up.

[Dan LeBatard]

Basically because Wemby, who's 19ft tall, was, like, standing over him, lording over him.

[Roy]

That's kind of the same thing.

[Tony]

And if you don't think that I was going to be pissed off if the Heat lost that game and they didn't call the out of bounds, you don't know me.

[Chris Cody]

You should file a lawsuit.

[Tony]

Well, no, I don't have to. They won. It's okay. But if they lost, could have been a problem for a lot of people.

[Greg Cody]

But the end of that game, when I'm talking about Eric Spoelstra, I really. I really don't know. Like, Kenny Atkinson's a good coach. He has. He has helped the Cavs become a lot better by unlocking the usage rate of Evan Mobley, who's a beast on the offensive. It's a really good basketball team. And what happened at the end of that game is just a coaching surgery. And now you need your players to execute. Okay. And Sam Merrill blew the assignment. I'm not even sure he should be on the floor in that spot. I don't think he should be on the floor, but. Okay. Sam Merrill. Sam Merrill, as a kind of specialist like Duncan Robinson, actually missed that kind of guy that he don't have one of those. Not that kind of guy that will just spot up and shoot threes and we'll shoot 12 a game, and we'll get you back into a game quickly. What happened at that. At the end of that game, surgically, cannot happen to a coach, cannot happen to a team. You cannot allow that shot to be that easy at the basket when There are only 4/10 of a second left in a. In a basketball.

[Tony]

We all knew that's what they're going to try and do. Like. Like, you'd have to figure Kenny Atkinson had a clue that's what they were going to try and do.

[Greg Cody]

But it's the only thing you cannot allow. Even if you have to put. Put five guy. If you have to put five guys under the basket, the thing that you can't let that happen there is that game to end that way with 4:10 of a second left.

[Dan LeBatard]

Kenny Atkinson might have had a clue, but he was in the locker room because he was ejected earlier for his second technical. So it was the Cavs assistant coaches who were trying to defend this play, and they seemed rattled a few times. There were multiple moments. Look, you're unlike baseball, you're not expecting to be without your head coach, particularly in a close game late, where there's all these shots being made.

[Tony]

They kept showing the assistance. They were constantly huddled up to see him, like, being in game.

[Chris Cody]

Hey, yeah.

[Tony]

They were constantly, like, figuring things out while they don't have going on a.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hierarchy the way that the Heat do. And it actually wasn't even Eric Spoelstra who drew up that play. He has had this play on his list for the last several years. He said for, I believe, four years, he's had this play sitting on his list.

[Tony]

Did anything with Jimmy Butler like that recently?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, against the Rockets a couple of years ago, labeled CQ for Chris Quinn. And he said rather than articulating the play himself, he just. I was 10ft away. I watched him hand the clipboard off to Chris Quinn. And he was able to diagram that play himself, articulate it to.

[Tony]

You happen to know that's what happened.

[Dan LeBatard]

I watched it happen right there.

[Greg Cody]

The 10ft away was not necessary.

[Chris Cody]

I think it was. It added a lot. It took me there. Thank you, Jeremy. You're very welcome.

[Dan LeBatard]

Everyone's standing. If you really want the picture, paint it. Everybody is standing. I'm standing in the tunnel, right? Getting ready. It's me and one of the ushers who I always get. Get to see, and he's always like, I don't know why you're here. You're going to give me a heart attack. Because pretty much every single game that I call for whatever reason, it ends up being a really close game late. And so everyone is standing. I'm standing just behind.

[Chris Cody]

Look at me.

[Dan LeBatard]

Standing just behind the front row of folks where a couple of people have Already left after regulation. And I have a nice view of. Of Nico Jovic ahead of me on the opposite sideline, right? And he's. He's. He's standing there, and you could see it. Evan Mobley is defending him as this play is about to start. But then, for whatever reason, those assistant coaches that we said, you know, were really struggling, they take Evan Mobley off of the inbounder. They put him with Jaime Hawkez on the opposite baseline. Donovan Mitchell now defending the inbounder, and he's facing backwards, just looking for that inbound pass, because with 0.4 seconds left, of course, you can get a shot off. Norman Powell's been hot all game, so they've got him running from the baseline up toward the top of the key. When that happens, you see Mitchell sort of shift that way. You see Sam Merrill defending Davion Mitchell. You had to know that inevitable rambling. He's breaking down the play. Your honor, Objection.

[Chris Cody]

He's breaking down the play.

[Dan LeBatard]

Real quick. Real quick. Yeah, yeah, I'm painting a picture.

[Chris Cody]

Who are you wearing?

[Dan LeBatard]

Express.

[Chris Cody]

Thank you.

[Greg Cody]

All right, all right, look, let's just get the video or just the visuals of Jeremy after the game. His enthusiasm.

[Dan LeBatard]

Journalist.

[Greg Cody]

This is not me. Tony, you are correct. That was the correct ruling to make. As someone who was there in the action, the describing of the play at the end with maximum information is the way to go. But I have to be honest here, okay? I've been hovering over that button for about two minutes, as I always am when he starts talking.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm glad you found it.

[Greg Cody]

And Roy was smiling the entire time. And he was. The only show Roy was doing was watching me hover over this button. And as I do this, Louis puts in, cue journalist Jeremy. And what I get to see on the screen is the same giddy guy who walked in today with the strut, and he was waving a parasol around. Heat are good. Heat are good again. And so look at him here in the middle of the action. That's closer than 10ft away. Look at Jeremy's face. I want you to close up on the side of his face. That is not a journalist.

[Tony]

Eric Reid called him the team's good luck charm when he looked at it.

[Greg Cody]

Look what's happening right here.

[Dan LeBatard]

And so that happiness. Who would want that?

[Greg Cody]

He's been eating it for about a year because of how bad the Heat were last year and what a messy conundrum they were last year. But this Heat team scores. And I will tell you that while this is very exciting and I Do get excited about Norman Powell as a number one in a weak East. It's still Norman Powell is your number one. And I'm like this season is going to be. The Miami Heat are going to be better than we thought they were going to be. Norman Powell is going to be a good number one if he is healthy. But it's not where Heat expectations are. The franchises like I understand that it's, it's small minded and man oh man, like it's, it's almost cruel the standard that they've set. But number one is the standard. Not eight seed, not six seed, but this team is good enough to be a four seed in the East.

[Tony]

Baby steps, man. Like why can't this year be similar to what 2004 was? Where it was this unexpected team, this unexpected season with a lot of really good young players. And guess what? Now we're going to pool these really good young players and we're going to get a super duper star.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jeremy's calling them the Pacers from last year. So that's where he's going. Well, I am just wondering like why we can look at this team. Like you say Norman Powell is the number one. Norman Powell was brought here to be their, their number three option off because the offense often runs through bam at a bio and then Tyler Herro has been their lead scorer. Either way, even if you want to make them 1A, 1B, 1C and what they're doing offensive, he's their best offensive, their pace and the way that they're playing offense, they only set nine picks yesterday. Nine picks in an overtime game where they had a 123 offensive reading. That is insane. That is not something that happens in basketball. And with this free flowing offense, it doesn't really matter who your number one per se is. What matters is that you have several different options and several different playmakers which they have. Whether it's Jaime Hawkes, Nico Jovic, these guys coming off the bench, they have mismatches and they're going to continue as they, they get healthy. That's great. But when the playoffs come and it's a half court game and you're not running in pace and you're not scoring 140 points a game.

[Chris Cody]

Who's your dog?

[Dan LeBatard]

Who's your alpha guy? Who's going to go get you a.

[Roy]

Bucket in crunch time, the Heat have Tyler hero, Jaime, let's like okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

And Norman Powell like they had a.

[Greg Cody]

Bayou like this is the place that I would, I would just stop you. This is the place and this is the cutting edge that I would say it's fair to say. The Heat have been pioneering on, on the revolution of basketball over the last 15 years of positionless basketball. The reason to be excited about this Heat team, you can use all of those old metrics and they're fair because they've always been fair throughout basketball. Who's your end of the game guy in the playoffs has been a true thing throughout the playoffs since we've been watching basketball, however, with the pieces they have that they were unwilling to trade for yesterday's star in Kevin Durant, a basketball culture franchise. And I'm not gonna let me take back culture cuz it annoys people. Just what these people do in revolutionizing whatever the future looks like to take the offense and be like, no picks. We're just gonna go after Jimmy Butler ball. Bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce. Jimmy Butler Bo. Bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce. Like to go from that to we don't care who the star is. I would love to believe in that. It's just at no time in history, except when the Pistons beat the Lakers because Kobe and Shaq hated each other, has that ever won. And what you'd be trusting here is that the Heat know more about how to evolve their maximum pieces than other teams do. But the reason they didn't trade these guys is because they knew it looked like this. Like, we didn't know, but they absolutely knew that this is what it would look like. Like they had no like.

[Dan LeBatard]

Also Jeremy knew. That's right.

[Greg Cody]

That's an interesting thing though, when you think of the architects of like, okay, now we got Jimmy out of here. And man, that year hurt. Like, everything about what that did to us hurt. Anybody want to play here where we don't care who the number one is? Anybody want to play here where we do not care? Because Norman Powell is coming from the perfect situation. Are you kidding me? The shadow of Harden and Kawhi. Nobody knows how good that guy was last year. Nobody knows. Like, how do you get that for Kevin Love and Kyle Anderson? And then of course, you put him in this. You put him in this cauldron and it gets better.

[Tony]

Great. You like that trade right away I did.

[Chris Cody]

I was all over it. Thank you. Really appreciated that trade.

[Dan LeBatard]

Biggest reason for Clippers fall off losing Norman Powell or Pablo Torre.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, Pablo, no doubt. I need your support.

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