Local Hour: Don't Disparage The Upset Bird

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Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Local Hour: Don't Disparage The Upset Bird
Release Date: April 24, 2025

In this episode of "Local Hour," hosts Dan Le Batard and Stu Gotz, alongside guest commentators John Zaslow, Greg Cody, Dominique Foxworth, Jeremy Tache, and Lucy, navigate through a series of heated discussions centered around South Florida's sports landscape, particularly focusing on the Miami Heat's recent playoff setbacks, team dynamics, and broader journalistic debates.

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1. Traffic Woes and Show Punctuality [02:13 - 02:58]

The episode kicks off with Greg Cody expressing frustration over South Florida's notorious traffic, which has affected punctuality for the show.

Greg Cody: "I don't like to complain about what's apparent. And everybody who lives in South Florida knows rush hour. Getting from Broward to Miami is a pain in the ass."
Timestamp: [02:13]

Stu Gotz chimes in lightheartedly about the visible signs of Greg's late arrival.

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2. On-Air Mistakes and Accountability [05:06 - 08:22]

John Zaslow addresses a previous on-air blunder made by Greg Cody, where Greg mistakenly stated that Marv Levy had passed away, leading to a humorous yet pointed reprimand.

John Zaslow: "Greg Cody, yesterday on the show, killing Marv Levy... Greg Cody owes $55."
Timestamp: [05:26]

Greg Cody acknowledges the mistake, apologizing sincerely for the error and the confusion it caused.

Greg Cody: "I apologize to Marv Levy and his family. I honestly didn't know he was still alive."
Timestamp: [06:44]

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3. Jimmy Butler’s Injury and the Miami Heat’s Playoff Prospects [09:00 - 17:55]

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Miami Heat star Jimmy Butler's injury during the playoffs and its ramifications on the team's chances.

Impact of the Injury

Jeremy Tache expresses his disappointment over Butler's injury, highlighting the emotional and strategic setbacks for the Heat.

Jeremy Tache: "Watching Jimmy Butler get hurt in the postseason is one of the worst things to watch."
Timestamp: [09:03]

Dominique Foxworth adds to the conversation by discussing the team's overreliance on Butler and the financial implications of his injury.

Dominique Foxworth: "We can't do this every single year... We know who he is by now, and that means he can't be your number two scoring option."
Timestamp: [17:55]

Strategic Shortcomings

The hosts debate the Heat's current strategy, emphasizing their overemphasis on three-point shooting and lack of rim presence compared to rivals like the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Dominique Foxworth: "Bam and Wiggins together had 21 points... they don't have that top guy."
Timestamp: [19:06]

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4. Critique of Coach Joe Missoula’s Conduct [28:03 - 36:13]

The conversation shifts to Coach Joe Missoula’s controversial behavior during games, particularly his handling of player injuries, which has sparked criticism among the hosts.

Dominique Foxworth: "Missoula not only doesn't allow the trainer to check on him, he looks annoyed."
Timestamp: [28:09]

John Zaslow voices strong disapproval of Missoula’s approach, questioning his professionalism and calling for accountability.

John Zaslow: "This doesn't look sane. We need to talk about Missoula's behavior."
Timestamp: [29:32]

Greg Cody engages in the debate, initially skeptical about the severity of Missoula’s actions but eventually siding with the criticism.

Greg Cody: "What would be the charge that a jury would convict and imprison him on?"
Timestamp: [31:38]

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5. Journalistic Integrity and Credentials Debate [33:00 - 41:30]

A heated exchange unfolds between Greg Cody and John Zaslow regarding what defines a journalist, leading to broader discussions on professional legitimacy within the media landscape.

Defining a Journalist

Greg Cody asserts that holding a journalism degree inherently makes one a journalist.

Greg Cody: "If I have a degree in journalism, that makes me a journalist."
Timestamp: [04:14]

John Zaslow counters by emphasizing the importance of actively pursuing a career in journalism beyond academic credentials.

John Zaslow: "Doesn't make you a journalist unless you choose to pursue a career in journalism."
Timestamp: [04:22]

Hostile Banter and Defenses

Dominique Foxworth defends her qualifications, highlighting her degree from the University of Florida and her active role in broadcasting journalism.

Dominique Foxworth: "I went to the College of Journalism at the University of Florida. I have a degree. I'm a journalist."
Timestamp: [04:14]

The debate intensifies with personal jabs and accusations of superiority, reflecting underlying tensions among the hosts.

Greg Cody: "I do what Zaz does... I have my own podcast. I'm totally into that."
Timestamp: [38:54]

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6. Mock Drafts and Future Segments [43:54 - 44:37]

In a lighter segment, Greg Cody promotes his involvement in mock drafts, discussing his historical performance and encouraging listener participation.

Greg Cody: "I'm doing a live report card on my mock draft tonight online in the Herald."
Timestamp: [44:23]

Jessica expresses interest in following Greg's mock drafts, likening it to interactive games like bingo.

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7. Final Remarks and Ongoing Tensions [28:03 - 44:37]

The episode concludes with ongoing tensions between the hosts, interspersed with humorous comments and general banter, setting the stage for future episodes.

John Zaslow: "This is an echo chamber. This is not, not, not an echo chamber."
Timestamp: [41:43]

Dominique Foxworth: "I never made a decision because I'm a broadcast journalist. I'm doing it. I'm a journalist."
Timestamp: [41:21]

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Notable Quotes

• Greg Cody on Traffic:
  "Getting from Broward to Miami is a pain in the ass."
  [02:13]

• Jeremy Tache on Butler's Injury:
  "Watching Jimmy Butler get hurt in the postseason is one of the worst things to watch."
  [09:03]

• Dominique Foxworth on Team Strategy:
  "We can't do this every single year... We know who he is by now, and that means he can't be your number two scoring option."
  [17:55]

• John Zaslow on Coach Missoula:
  "This doesn't look sane. We need to talk about Missoula's behavior."
  [29:32]

• Greg Cody on Journalistic Credentials:
  "If I have a degree in journalism, that makes me a journalist."
  [04:14]

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This episode of "Local Hour" offers a blend of serious sports analysis, particularly concerning the Miami Heat's playoff strategies and leadership, alongside spirited debates about journalistic integrity. The dynamic interactions among the hosts provide both insightful commentary and entertaining banter, reflecting the vibrant South Florida sports culture.

Transcript

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[John Zaslow]

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[John Zaslow]

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[Greg Cody]

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[John Zaslow]

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[Greg Cody]

Shadow Show. Shadow Show.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Shadow Show.

[John Zaslow]

Shadow Show.

[Greg Cody]

Shadowing it. Shadowing it.

[John Zaslow]

This one promises to be interesting because Greg, Cody, and Zaslow are sitting across from each other. There is a history of something, something. A history of something there. Greg is pointing at me right now. But the reason this also has the possibility of being a cantankerous day is because you just muttered, I heard you right before we started bleeping traffic. Pain in the ass.

[Greg Cody]

Well, you know, traffic is traffic, right? So I don't like to complain about what's apparent. And everybody who lives in South Florida knows rush hour. Getting from Broward to Miami is a pain in the ass. But more so today, I don't know why I left the house at the same time. Normally, I get here 20 minutes earlier, blah, blah, blah. So I'm breathing heavily. I'm.

[John Zaslow]

You do seem. Chris, you've been laughing at him. His hair's a little discombobulated. He seems frazzled. He sounds frazzled. He's rushing in. Three minutes beforehand doesn't draft days hell week for him.

[Greg Cody]

Sure. Yeah. I'm a person who likes to show up early and not feel rushed. And today I showed up late, and I feel rushed. So I'll catch up. Don't worry about me, kid.

[John Zaslow]

I do worry about you every time that you're in because you tend to derail things with the way that you don't do things according to protocol. It's one of the reasons that Zaz has been. Zaz and Dominique, I think, are perpetual. I don't want to speak for them, but they're perpetually. They've said on this show that they're frustrated that some basic things that could be easily learned around here are things you refuse to learn.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, like what?

[John Zaslow]

Radio. The doing of broadcast.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay.

[Greg Cody]

I was under the impression I was speaking into a mic right now that.

[John Zaslow]

People were hearing very often that Mike is not in front of your face.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Well, but if I was writing, like, if I was allowed one day to write a column in the Herald.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dominique Foxworth]

All right. And I wrote it in crayon, that would bother you, right?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, well, it would bother the reader because we don't publish crayons. So what you wrote would never be published.

[Dominique Foxworth]

But you'd be offended. You're like. Like, this is not how we do it.

[Greg Cody]

Well, how do you do it?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Well, I don't know, because I don't write in the newspaper.

[John Zaslow]

Believes he's every bit the journalist you are.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Well, yeah, like, I think today's gonna be fun. Just three journalists chopping it up here.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, well, we went into this journalist argument before. To me, if you're talking about the Panthers while wearing a panther shirt, you recuse yourself as a journalist.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I disagree.

[Greg Cody]

Okay?

[Dominique Foxworth]

I mean, I went to the college of Journalism at the University of Florida. I graduate. I have a degree. I'm a journalist.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, well, because you have a degree in journalism doesn't make you a journalist unless you choose to pursue a career in journalism.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I don't think that's true. I think if I have a degree in journalism, that makes me a journalist.

[Mike Ryan]

Guys, guys, guys, guys. You fell for it. You fell for it. He came out the gate shit stirring, and you fell for it. You took the bait you ran with it. You're having an argument about journalism.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Just defending my education.

[Mike Ryan]

No, you're zaz. You gotta be better than that. You gotta be better. Greg, you see what this guy's doing in the middle?

[Greg Cody]

I do, and I'm just saying. And I'll leave it at this, if I have degree, a degree in botany, but I'm not a botanist. I don't call myself a botanist.

[Mike Ryan]

But to Mike, you got the last shot up.

[Greg Cody]

But to Mike's point, the so called feud, or whatever you choose to call it between Zaslo and I is totally contrived by this guy. By this guy. I'm getting wise. I have nothing against Zaslo. I don't know him well enough to have any animus whatsoever.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I could speak for myself.

[John Zaslow]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast. I begin with an apology to the audience. This, that I missed this yesterday. Many of you rushed into the breach to say that Greg Cody owes $50 because yesterday he killed Marv Levy on the air very early in the show. Nobody here corrected him. I don't know how old Marv Levy is, but he is still with us 99. That means that Greg Cody owes $50. $50. And also he owes $5 because his phone went off. So he owns. He owes $55. Can we get the sound here of GRE with all of his hair disheveled from traffic? Greg Cody, yesterday on the show, killing Marv Levy. When the anonymous quotes come flying from the people who still admire Robert De Niro as a marquee movie star, the old coaches are speaking anonymously. I hate this. One of the many reasons I hate this time of year.

[Greg Cody]

Well, if Marv Levy and Don Shuler were still alive, the reference would have been, there are no Lawrence Oliviers in this draft. So we. We have moved forward on that progress.

[John Zaslow]

I can't believe I missed that.

[Greg Cody]

Well, can I say something in all seriousness? I apologize to Marv Levy and his family. I didn't say that as a joke. I honestly didn't know he was still alive. And I do think I don't know who the commissioner of the fine bucket is, or if you're still calling it a fine bucket. But I appeal to the commissioner that a $50 fine should be reduced when the person I quote, unquote, killed is of the age 99. In other words, when someone is 99 or would have been 99, they should be dead. Well, there's a fair assumption that they might no longer be around. Look, when Marv Levy turns 100 in August, the city of Buffalo, the Bills, the NFL, should throw this guy a parade. He's a Hall of Famer, in my.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Opinion, because time's running out.

[Mike Ryan]

What if.

[Greg Cody]

Well, 100. I mean, who lives be a hundred?

[Mike Ryan]

I kind of get where Greg is going with this.

[Jeremy Tache]

Alberta.

[Mike Ryan]

I think if the person in the upper 90s, the fine goes down to, like, 45. System. Yeah, it's a tiered system.

[Greg Cody]

I think so.

[Mike Ryan]

It goes down to, like, 40 bucks.

[Jeremy Tache]

If you kill someone who's in their 90s, it's like $25. If they're in their 80s, it's $35. They're in their 70s, you get to.

[Jessica]

50, it's minus five for every year over 100, they live.

[John Zaslow]

Okay, none of you are allowed to be in charge of the fine bucket. None of you respect the fine bucket. And this is a hard and fast rule. No need for dilution or nuance. If someone's alive and you say they're dead, $50. That's the rule. There's no. We don't need any judges. We don't need any. We don't need to do any gerrymandering here in order to get the right votes that we want. It's hard and fast. He killed somebody who's not dead. $50.

[Greg Cody]

You know, in a democracy, you're allowed to appeal a verdict.

[John Zaslow]

Not a democracy. $50. If the person is alive and you make them dead, you. You owe $50.

[Greg Cody]

I'm going to get my personal assistant on that.

[John Zaslow]

No. Chris, come in here and make sure your father pays this, please. Grab his phone.

[Greg Cody]

I would, but the phone is turned off by your mandate.

[John Zaslow]

That's fine. I know what the passcode is, Chris. Right. I'm tired of him not paying any of the fines. We're going to put an end to that. We're going to get back to the assortment of things to talk about today. I'm guessing Zaslow and Heat fans enjoyed last night simply because Jimmy Butler got hurt.

[Jeremy Tache]

Not at all.

[Greg Cody]

That was awful.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I didn't enjoy that.

[Mike Ryan]

But I'm not a Heat fan, nor am I Zazzle.

[John Zaslow]

I don't believe any of you. I know that you guys say publicly whatever it is that you want to say. I believe the fact that Jimmy Butler left the game. No. And then champion Steve Kerr says, well, once that happens, we don't know what we're doing.

[Jeremy Tache]

I wanted Jimmy to lose in five like I wanted the warriors to lose. I won't shy away from that. I didn't want the Heat to get potentially swept in the first round and have the warriors go on some miraculous run. Course, but watching Jimmy Butler get hurt in the postseason is the. One of the worst things to watch. He's one of the greatest postseason performers that we have, and as an NBA fan, as a basketball fan, you're miserable, and as a Heat fan, you don't want to see the guy hurt.

[John Zaslow]

Oh, that's the nice thing to say. Jeremy. Jeremy, you don't know Miami or Miami fans very well if you think you're speaking for all Miami fans.

[Jeremy Tache]

I don't think I'm speaking for all Miami fans. I'm think. I think I'm speaking for more Miami fans than not, though. I don't think anybody wants to get so.

[John Zaslow]

I got so many texts last night, hey, can't believe believe Jimmy got hurt two games in. Like, my phone just filled up. That's how I got the news. Don't tell me that everyone's being nice about this.

[Jeremy Tache]

I didn't say everyone's being nice about it. I said, I think most Heat fans with a. With a soul are looking at this.

[John Zaslow]

And saying, that doesn't make sense.

[Jeremy Tache]

It's a shame. It's a shame that. That he got hurt. Like, I don't think anybody wants to see that. I think there. There might be people who send the text of I told you so. And that's a different thing. Thing. Knowing that the guy puts his body out on the line and being worried about paying long contracts and blah, blah, blah. That's a different thing than I'm feeling glee over the fact that he's injured and won't make a run now. Right.

[John Zaslow]

I have found very little around here pleases people more consistently than being able to say, I told you so.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, that's the best.

[Jeremy Tache]

That's right.

[John Zaslow]

And so all of these things get muddled. Like, you can sit here and say, I have a soul because I feel bad secretly, but also, I told you so. Those things don't go some happiness involved with just being able to not be miserable because The warriors are 17 and one in their last eight.

[Jeremy Tache]

So you agree with me.

[Mike Ryan]

That sounds like an agreement.

[Jeremy Tache]

You just agreed with everything we found. Thank you.

[Mike Ryan]

Consensus. That's great.

[John Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Good.

[Jeremy Tache]

All right. Good for us as a team.

[Mike Ryan]

We did it. We changed someone's mind.

[John Zaslow]

I agree with you.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I like the idea of all the people texting you, thinking they're so original with their text. Oh, surprise. Jimmy Butler got hurt after one game. I'm not happy that Jimmy Butler got hurt. The part that I am happy with, the part that does please me, is I envision Pat Riley and the Heat front office. Like, yeah, this is why we weren't going to give him an extra $150 million on top of the two years that we've already guaranteed him. Because that.

[John Zaslow]

Why do you guys think that Heat fans would be nicer about this than people were when Anthony Davis limped off the court and everyone took a certain glee in. Ah, see, because that was funny.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Like, that was funny. Jimmy getting hurt's not funny.

[Mike Ryan]

This is also, like, we don't know how bad this injury is. Like, he's got a bruise on his pelvis. He could tough that one up.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He was ruled out really quick.

[Mike Ryan]

He can tough this one out. It could add to his playoff legend, possibly. It was also, like, a freak injury. He's just going up for a board. Dude behind him trips over Draymond. It kind of looked dirty initially.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Or maybe he did it on purpose.

[Mike Ryan]

You think? I mean, if he did, Draymond would have went at him, but Draymond was kind of responsible because it do kind of tripped over Draymond. Draymond's leg. Yeah.

[Jeremy Tache]

It felt like he was just kind of trying to gain his balance. But I actually think that that's part of it. Right? If Jimmy was just, like, driving to the hoop and rolled an ankle without even stepping on anybody and it was that type of thing, a little bit of that I told you so maybe even creeps into what we're talking about. But when you see a nasty spill like that, I just don't think that there's anything to look at other than, oh, man, this. This stinks. The stinks.

[Dominique Foxworth]

No, I think it's a freak injury, obviously, but it's. It's still along the lines of why the Heat don't trust him at this point in his career, to give him additional money.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, but I don't think I told you so is even in play here. Jimmy Butler is always going to be seen as the traitor who quit on the Heat and quit on Miami.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You think he's always going to be seen as that?

[Greg Cody]

I think so.

[John Zaslow]

I don't believe that.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I don't think so.

[Greg Cody]

I do, too, because he didn't win a championship here. Let's not oversell the fact.

[John Zaslow]

Well, but by local homers, he'll be considered that. But that's not the national reputation of Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler is now golden forever. Based on what we've already seen, the surprise we've already Seen makes him golden forever as one of the most surprising things seen in the history of the NBA postseason.

[Greg Cody]

And what I'm. What I was about to say before you. You put a pause on my comment was that he won the trade already. Like, Jimmy Butler is a darling in Golden State. He won the trade, particularly because, you know Wiggins. Look, Davion Mitchell and Wiggins are pretty good and they showed it. Davion showed it last night.

[John Zaslow]

Are they. I'm not totally sure.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I don't know.

[John Zaslow]

Mitchell.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Good.

[John Zaslow]

Let's. Let's explore last night's game. Finish your thought. I didn't mean to put a pause on your thoughts. There.

[Lucy]

One way to say it.

[Greg Cody]

I think in South Florida, he's always going to be the traitor who quit on the Heat and pouted his way out of Miami. I think nationally you're right. He's feathering his legend, particularly if they. If they somehow win the championship and he won the trade. He got what he wanted. He got the money he wanted. He got the teams the situation he wanted. He loves it.

[John Zaslow]

He didn't quite get the team that he wanted.

[Greg Cody]

Well, he won the trade.

[Mike Ryan]

Shaq's not thought of that way. Shaq did the exact same thing. It was probably less messy, but that didn't mean it wasn't messy at all.

[Dominique Foxworth]

But isn't that because Shaq kind of did it in the shadows?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, I guess. And media was different there. And Shaq has something that Jimmy doesn't have a championship in a Miami Heat uniform. But I do think time will heal all wounds, especially for a younger generation that maybe was adolescent during the Big Three era. Jimmy was their guy. And Jimmy is like the face that they associate with the franchise.

[Greg Cody]

Well, he won. He became the face of Heat culture. Wrongly. I don't think he was ever the face of Heat culture. But look, the way he left is never going to be forgotten. It may be. Greg.

[John Zaslow]

Greg, by you. The noise of the moment with real legacy. The noise of the moment isn't something that echoes.

[Greg Cody]

Okay?

[John Zaslow]

This is. This is 15 years of career and Draymond Green punched a teammate. Not how he'll be remembered. Like, that's. The noise of. The noise of the moment is not the thing that sticks.

[Lucy]

I think that when we look back at the totality of his career, it's going to be more. He couldn't land anywhere. He was never happy anywhere. I mean, yes, he had the bubble run with the Heat, but I think he will be thought of more generally as a guy who was really good that just couldn't fit in anywhere.

[Dominique Foxworth]

As a journalist, I would tell you that I think that that's not going to be the way he's remembered here.

[John Zaslow]

Let's talk about the specifics of last night's game. Cleveland extraordinary at threes. The way that Cleveland can beat Boston is by being better than threes. Better at threes than Boston. In last night's game, the Heat put together offensively a second quarter. They kind of want to put together six threes in a second quarter. That's. You do that. Over the course of the game, you've made 24 threes. That's kind of what it is that you want to do. However, they're down 17 because Cleveland's made five more threes than them in the second period. It's the most ever in a quarter in an NBA postseason. And the Heat just basically trailed the entire game. And then late in the game, they got close. I'm curious how the rest of you feel about this. The Heat have only two players who are all stars, and one of them that they need to be huge in this series is floating around the perimeter and assists and taking three pointers and trying to out three. The Cavs by. Bam's taking threes on the perimeter, and they're also down 17 at the half because they're getting nothing at the rim. Nothing is happening at the rim. And Cleveland saying, go ahead, Bam. We'll. We'll let Davion Mitchell and. And Tyler Herro try to take their chances. We're not gonna let you beat us. And Bam's like, okay, I won't be the one who beat you. You guys, as Heat fans, how do you feel when you've got your dream team guy, your all star floating around the perimeter as a non factor all game? And I'm saying this, even though he.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Had nine assists, I feel like we can't do this every single year for real. Meaning we know who he is by now, and that means he can't be your number two scoring option. He's a guy who.

[John Zaslow]

All right. Whoa.

[Dominique Foxworth]

How about that Bam game where he had 29 in game four? That was amazing. He's not going to be relied upon to be able to do that. He's a number three scorer who could do other things as good as anybody in the league, and that's going to be this Heat team's shortcoming this postseason because they don't have that top guy. Like, we can't keep doing this about Bam. We know.

[John Zaslow]

Well, what about this other part of it, though? Like Tyler Herro's been the screener defender on 50 pick and rolls through two games and the Cavs are generating 1.2 points per possession.

[Dominique Foxworth]

We saw what Darius Garland said their strategy was going into yesterday, right? He literally said. He didn't say pick on their bad defenders. He said pick on Tyler Herro.

[Mike Ryan]

It's a weird flex. Jeremy was explaining to me that Tyler totally cooked Darius.

[Jeremy Tache]

He cooked everybody last night. It's funny. Look, Tyler is the guy they're going after on defense. It's obvious. And when they're putting them in the pick and roll, they're getting everything that they want. Tyler is going to need to take some pride in the defensive end if the Heat are going to be able to do anything in these next couple of games. But Tyler also had 33, 6 and 5 last night efficiently and was clearly the best offensive player on the floor for either team until the final five minutes when when Donovan Mitchell showed the type of first team all NBA superstar that he is.

[Greg Cody]

Well, the Cavs rightly have the luxury of treating Hero as the only offensive threat on that team. And I thought that really shown through last night. This was a game where they needed and I'm going to say Bam and Wiggins, they needed one of those guys.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Emphasis on Wiggins, to have a big.

[Greg Cody]

Game that Bam and Wiggins together had 21 points on 6 of 19 shooting. They're never going to beat a team in the playoffs, let alone the highest scoring team in the league. The number one season Wiggins was 3.

[John Zaslow]

For 1010 points in 28 minutes. Doesn't look anything like the champion contributor that he was for the Warri. He helped win the Warriors a title. He was that kind of important. Bam had 11 points on nine shot attempts. But let's hear from Darius Garland here again. Tyler Herro has been the screener defender on 50 pick and rolls through two games at the trade deadline.

[Greg Cody]

Miami's been really good at turning teams.

[John Zaslow]

Over, but the first two games you.

[Greg Cody]

Guys have really held onto it.

[Mike Ryan]

Just what's the key to playing clean.

[John Zaslow]

Basketball like that against a team like that?

[Joe Missoula]

Pick on Tyler Hero and take care of the ball. Don't play in tight spaces and pick on their weak defenders. Go after them.

[Mike Ryan]

Is it less racist if the Cleveland Indians logo is upside down? I don't. Cool hat, bro.

[John Zaslow]

You guys think what of that? Because when the Heat lose, they've lost more games this season that they've won. They don't belong on the floor with that team. That team has been exceptional all season. Is better than them in every way. The real only advantage that you have in that series is that you hope that over seven games Spoelstra can figure out playing the same team again and again and again that he's got something for them later in the series. But.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, he was tweaking with the lineup a little bit. Guys that hadn't played in a long time are finding themselves playing way more minutes than they're probably prepared for. But look, this is a one versus eight matchup. But Miami's going back to home court. And I do think that Miami has.

[Jessica]

A series hasn't started yet, hasn't even started.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, Miami has a shot to make this an exciting.

[Greg Cody]

The series sort of has started and crushed the Heat. Spoelstra has a reputation as the master adjuster and I get that. His record going into last night was 10:3 in game twos after his team had lost the opener. So. And he started Davion Mitchell. I thought that worked out well. But you know, he's not a miracle man and it takes a miracle right now. You know, he tried to put the positive spin afterward. He said after the game, I thought this was sort of weird. I thought it was an off key note by him. He said, at the end of the day, we were two points down, meaning late in the game with like four and a half minutes left, it was.

[John Zaslow]

101.99 late in the fourth.

[Greg Cody]

And I would say, Spo, with due respect, at the end of the day, you're in a two nothing hole. You've been outscored by 30 points. You don't have a second offensive option against the best scoring team in the league. Where's your lane to victory? And I can't see it right now.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I think their lane to victory is math. And that's why they shot more threes. Like they were clearly emphasizing we need to shoot more threes than we did in game one, which they did. And this way, let's just play with the math. If we get really hot from three, that ends up being the great Jessica thinks you're pathetic.

[John Zaslow]

I saw the look on her face. It can never be the lane to victory.

[Jessica]

No, I think Jeremy's pathetic.

[Lucy]

Jeremy just should hear him back.

[Jessica]

So sad, absurd theater kid basketball analysis line that I've ever heard from him, which is really saying a lot.

[Lucy]

My dad was talking about the adjustments that SPO made and criticizing him last night.

[Jeremy Tache]

And Jeremy just back here, his adjustments were spectacular.

[Lucy]

It's just like they lost. They're down.02.

[Jeremy Tache]

The only reason they were Even in that game is the differences that they made in the rotation. Moving Davion Mitchell into the starting lineup, playing Nico Jovic and playing Palo Larson. I had no idea.

[John Zaslow]

Right.

[Jeremy Tache]

Nico Jovic ends up playing. Just to show you the disparity in these teams. Right. Like the Heat just decided to ride a hot lineup that included a guy who hasn't played since February for the final, you know, basically 15 minutes of that game. And that's the lineup that got them back in it because they're still in this space with this roster of I.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Don'T really know who we are.

[Jeremy Tache]

I don't really know what we have. And so changing the math was what they tried to do early in the game. They tried to get Wiggins involved and he couldn't get going. And honestly, that was part of the reason Bam ended up taking four threes with Jeremy seconds left in the shot.

[John Zaslow]

They do know what they have. They know it's not good enough and they. They try a bunch of other things.

[Jeremy Tache]

That's exactly right.

[John Zaslow]

Don't know will work.

[Jeremy Tache]

No, that's right.

[John Zaslow]

Because what they do know is that what they have will not work in the formations that they've been using them.

[Lucy]

Emphasis that he put on spectacular was hilarious.

[Jeremy Tache]

The adjustments were real and they were spectacular.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. Jovic SPO was raving about Jovic after the game. We're a different team with him on the floor. Fine. That may be, but what I saw last night was rust falling all off the floor against him. He was one for eight against threes. If. If that's the impact they need, I don't see it.

[Dominique Foxworth]

God, how exciting would it been if Jovic hit that shot? Corner would have brought them within one.

[Jeremy Tache]

Hawk had no legs, but the adjustments were a tour de force.

[John Zaslow]

Yeah, you mentioned that.

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[John Zaslow]

Don LeBatard John Zaslow, how you love that ca bad news for opposing teams.

[Dominique Foxworth]

In the Tripol air stugats. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

[John Zaslow]

There's been some overreaction around here. Zaslow stormed in today saying that Joe Missoula should be in prison.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He should. He should. This is not normal societal behavior we're seeing from this person. You go back to the last game, and Jayson Tatum is writhing in pain on the ground. And Missoula not only doesn't allow the trainer to check on him, he looks annoyed. Yeah, he's annoyed that the guy who just wants to do his job and make the guy who is hurt feel better. He's a. That's his job. He's annoyed that that guy might want to make his player feel better. And then he shouts to Tatum, get up. He barks at him while he's what? While he then has to go take an X ray and ends up missing game two. All right, get up the guy's heart. And then last night, Chris sounds Porzingis.

[John Zaslow]

He.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He takes a really nasty elbow to the head.

[John Zaslow]

He's.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He's dripping blood on the ground. And then after the game, Porzingis was funny. He had like these red blood streaks in his hair, you know, while he's playing with. And then after the game, Missoula says he likes that his player was bleeding.

[John Zaslow]

Let's play that sound here of a Joe Missoula that Zaslow says should be imprisoned.

[Joe Missoula]

I like his overall just approach. I think he has an ability, an innate ability to take things very serious at the same time, you know, have great perspective. And, you know, you see how he. I think he can control his environment really well with how he handles the crowd and how he handles the physicality of it, and he can maintain his kind of his poise, and he just has a great way about him. And I think that that helps us. And like, I do, I love watching him. I like watching him bleed on the court. I think it's important. And then he comes back in and does his job. So I do like that about him.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Dan, if Jeremy hit his head on.

[Lucy]

The side of the desk, it's a bad example.

[Jeremy Tache]

Everyone would love. If I was, oh, we're gonna go viral. He might go out there and start bleeding now. So that, that way I can say things about adjustments and have gushing blood from my face.

[Dominique Foxworth]

If Roy. If Roy hit his head on the side of the desk there and he's bleeding, is Dan's response, Is your response? I enjoy watching Roy bleed.

[John Zaslow]

Can we just look at the end at Missoula again?

[Jessica]

Is he in a costume?

[John Zaslow]

It depends. Freeze frame on Missoula here. Because the difference in the eyes. Yeah, the difference in the eyes makes him. When he's saying that he likes to see his players bleed, that just objectively, empirically doesn't look sane. I want to ask the group here, do you have a lot of other settings where a 7 foot 3 man is getting elbowed in the head, like physically?

[Mike Ryan]

SummerSlam.

[John Zaslow]

It seems like outside of wrestling something falling out of the sky, it seems like it's a little difficult to elbow somebody who's seven foot three in the head.

[Mike Ryan]

Just you take a high risk maneuver.

[John Zaslow]

How did you pronounce Kristaps name?

[Mike Ryan]

He said Porzingis.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah, that's how you say it.

[John Zaslow]

Porzingis.

[Greg Cody]

Can I go back to the. The imprisonment.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I'm a linguist also and a journalist.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, linguist.

[Mike Ryan]

No, you're not. I remember.

[John Zaslow]

I'm a lingoist.

[Mike Ryan]

Famously, you mispronounce Matthew Tkachuk's name.

[Jessica]

Lingo star over here.

[Greg Cody]

Nice. What would be the charge? I'm just curious because when I hear what he says, said, I don't hear anything wrong. Champion coaches can say whatever they want and it's categorized as genius. That's just a motivational thing to say, nothing more than that. What would be the charge that a jury would convict and imprison him on? I'm just curious.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Not fit for society.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. Like it's like a pretty general, like a danger.

[Dominique Foxworth]

A danger to people like you, Greg.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dominique Foxworth]

If that person is allowed to roam free in the same area that you are allowed to roam free. I worry for your safety.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, so. So you think that, that, that coach Missoula, you think that out of uniform.

[Lucy]

Are you leaning away from the mic.

[Greg Cody]

Out of the context of.

[John Zaslow]

Because he's feeling pretty confident that he shouldn't be imprisoned for what he said. I think he's feeling good about his point. So he's winding up here?

[Greg Cody]

Well, I just.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It's a move us journalists use sometimes.

[Greg Cody]

It's just coaches. I mean, why are we upset that he's.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Hold on, coaches. When have you ever heard another coach speak? Yell at his player who is hurt and writhing in pain on the ground, and yell for him. He is agitated that his player is not getting up from being injured.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, works for him.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Well, Jason Tatum missed the game last night. I don't know. There weren't.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. I think he's done pretty well. I think he's earned the benefit of doubt to motivate and coach in. In a way that he lost to.

[Dominique Foxworth]

An 8C two years ago.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, how about last year? How'd that work out?

[John Zaslow]

I told you there was tension here, and you guys said there's not. Friendly disagreement about you guys being the same kind of journalist, the two of you.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, here we go. Look at this guy.

[Lucy]

They're stirring it back up.

[Jeremy Tache]

You know, from Missoula, though, with. Without Tatum last night. His adjustments were picturesque.

[John Zaslow]

Yeah, you mentioned that. You.

[Greg Cody]

I'm not wearing a Heat hat, by the way.

[John Zaslow]

Hat backwards. You're not wearing a heat hat backwards. Why do you think. Why do you think you're a better journalist than Zaslow is?

[Greg Cody]

Merely because I am a journalist. So by process of elimination, that makes me a better journalist.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I mean, your opinion.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. All right. I don't think people see someone who barks into a radio wearing a Heat hat and a Panthers jersey as a journalist. No offense to Zaslo, who's very, very good at what he does.

[John Zaslow]

Barks.

[Lucy]

Very dismissive.

[John Zaslow]

Yeah, that is an offense. Like.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Like I'm a dog.

[John Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[John Zaslow]

When you said barks and you made him not human. Yeah, that's a little offense.

[Greg Cody]

I said no offense to Zazzle. He's very good at what it is.

[John Zaslow]

Because you say, no offense. Offense. Said, hey, Greg, you're an asshole. No offense.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, thank you.

[John Zaslow]

Like, that's. You can't just throw in a no offense after you've offended to exonerate your offense.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, well.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And you've. You've. You've offended my education. I have a degree in journalism.

[Greg Cody]

You didn't pursue that.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's not true.

[Greg Cody]

You didn't pursue the degree.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Hate that shit.

[Jessica]

Do you do journalism, though? Because it's, like, a thing you do.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you, Jesse.

[John Zaslow]

What's inaccurate? Hold on. What's the fake news? Where's the Journal?

[Mike Ryan]

Went to Santa Fe.

[John Zaslow]

He did, but that's not where.

[Dominique Foxworth]

No, I didn't. No, I didn't. I've never stepped foot on that campus. I, if you told me right now your life depends on it. Go to Santa Fe University and just, just, just take a picture.

[Mike Ryan]

I would die.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I don't know where it is.

[John Zaslow]

Why? Speaking to the mic like professional journalist and broadcaster. Why do we think that you went to Santa Fe? I don't know.

[Mike Ryan]

Because we had a conversation. You told me you went to Sant.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah, straight up lying.

[Greg Cody]

I think that's a liar. And community college. Not that there's anything.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You're right, it is. You're right, it is a community college.

[John Zaslow]

Minor penalty.

[Mike Ryan]

Two minutes for lying.

[Greg Cody]

Straight up. Yes.

[Jeremy Tache]

Imprison that man.

[Greg Cody]

Imprison that man.

[Mike Ryan]

Mike.

[John Zaslow]

I want to play some sound here from yesterday of Greg Cody when he wasn't, when he wasn't killing Marv Levy. He was also taking a colleague, Andrew Hawkins, and for some reason calling him. I believe it was Walter Hawkins.

[Greg Cody]

Great name.

[John Zaslow]

Let's hear that sound, please.

[Greg Cody]

I don't know Walter. I don't know Walter. Okay. And, and, and the thing that got me a little bit upset was that you tried to make it seem like Greg doesn't even know a co worker. He doesn't know someone who he's worked with. I've never met this man. I have never worked with him. I have never seen him. I've never been in the same studio.

[John Zaslow]

Played in the NFL and works with us at Metal.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I feel like never met this man is also a little bit dismiss.

[Greg Cody]

Why?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Just feels like, it feels like you, you know, you don't know.

[John Zaslow]

You need to quit barking.

[Greg Cody]

I don't know, Walter.

[Jeremy Tache]

I think I know what happened here. Greg, you have been on this show for the last few weeks as we have tried not to spoil a very popular TV show. There is an actor who is on two different TV shows that get spoken around here a lot. His name is Walton Goggins. And I believe when you heard the name Andrew Hawkins, you thought we were talking about Walton Goggins and called and called him Walter Hawkins. Am I right?

[Greg Cody]

You are not. But I wish, I wish you were because it's a great excuse you just gave me.

[Jeremy Tache]

Why didn't you just roll with it?

[Lucy]

I saw a lot of people tweeting that. I think a lot of people, people thought what Jeremy was thinking.

[Jeremy Tache]

It had to.

[Lucy]

You heard Hawkins and thought Goggins.

[Jessica]

Dan also called him Walter once.

[Jeremy Tache]

I don't know.

[John Zaslow]

You guys accused me of calling him Walter Goggins. It was an accusation. I referred to him as Goggins and you guys said I was afraid of his first name. I never called him Walter. That's not something that happened.

[Greg Cody]

I'm a big White Lotus fan. I know Goggins work.

[Jessica]

What about Uncle Baby Billy?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, he's great. And in the last episode, he's driving a cybertruck, which was just.

[Jessica]

Who wants to ask the old man's d. I know.

[Greg Cody]

It's water skiing.

[Jessica]

Nude sensor in it.

[Greg Cody]

That's great.

[John Zaslow]

By the way, the Last of Us. I'm not gonna spoil it. Even though it's, you know, right around spoiler alert Wednesday. But the Last of Us caught me very much off guard in the last episode. I was not expecting that.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I didn't see the last episode.

[John Zaslow]

Okay, well, you'd spoil it.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Whatever.

[John Zaslow]

No, no, I'm not gonna spoil this.

[Jessica]

But is it Wednesday?

[John Zaslow]

That's why I'm not going to spoil it. I did. I was going to spoil it yesterday, but I didn't. I didn't. So now here we are.

[Jessica]

Oh, there's the new EP of the show.

[John Zaslow]

By the way, that is Chris Cody's daughter. She came in here today and called me a doo doo hat. I don't know. That runs in the family, I guess. The Cody's passed that down. I am being told by producers that everyone is enjoying the tension between Zaslow and Greg Cody. I've been enjoying it for many years. Like, they. They have both come up in this market. And I don't believe that Zaslo looks down on Greg Cody. But I do know, and I'm not saying Greg Cody looks down on Zaz, but I do know that print journalists generally look down their nose at radio guys. That's a pretty common affliction in my history in this business, for some reason, the print guys think they're more noble than the radio guys.

[Greg Cody]

I will say this. Early in my career, before I got into broadcasting and podcasting and all this stuff, I might have thought that early in my career, when the newspaper was still a big thing in the 80s and into the 90s, I might have thought that. I don't now. You know, I mean, I essentially, I do what Zaz does a couple of days a week on your show. I have my own podcast. I'm totally into that. I respect what he does. But to your larger point. Point, I do think I am a journalist. And Zaz isn't saying that. It doesn't mean I'm superior. It just to me, I'm stating a fact.

[John Zaslow]

Oh. But I do believe you think that that's also superior. It doesn't different.

[Greg Cody]

It makes Me different but not superior. I'm not wearing a Heat hat, you know, I'm not cheering for the heat.

[John Zaslow]

Which one do you think is more admirable? If you were just looking at it from afar? Who do you respect or admire more? The person who has a print journalist's resume or the person who has a radio person's resume?

[Greg Cody]

Okay. I mean, I would argue that I have both at this point in my.

[John Zaslow]

Career, but that's not the question I was asking you. Like, which one do you respect more? Like just if I, if I put in front of you a great radio broadcaster and a great print journalist who gets more respect from you?

[Greg Cody]

Well, it's, it's impossible to answer because one of the people I respect the most in this entire business is Tony, Tony Kornheiser, who's been really great at both. And you can do both. So I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to be forced to say an either or where it's sort of an apples and oranges thing.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I get what he's saying. I'm not offended as a journalist, I know the way this game works is very competitive. I understand.

[Greg Cody]

Okay.

[Jeremy Tache]

All right.

[Greg Cody]

So you didn't go to Santa Fe. Where did you go to college?

[Dominique Foxworth]

I went, I have a degree from.

[John Zaslow]

The University of Florida in journalism.

[Greg Cody]

Wow.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I went to the University of Florida.

[John Zaslow]

Yours is from fau, Correct. Actually, empirically speaking, he's got the better journalism degree. Like that's, that's a fact.

[Greg Cody]

Okay.

[John Zaslow]

And that's not subjective.

[Greg Cody]

And at one point, Zsas had a conversation with himself and said, you know what? I've got this journalism degree from a top notch college.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's right.

[Greg Cody]

But I've decided not to be a journalist. I'm just going to yuck it up on the radio. I'm going to have fun. I'm going to wear Panthers jerseys. I'm just not going to be a serious journalist. How was the evolution of that decision?

[Dominique Foxworth]

I never made a decision because I'm a broadcast journalist. I'm doing it. I'm a journalist.

[Greg Cody]

Well, you're broadcasting.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You're a print media journalist. I mean, among things, I'm a broadcaster.

[Lucy]

We are in the mud.

[Jeremy Tache]

You are broadcasting.

[Mike Ryan]

So happy.

[Greg Cody]

You are broadcasting.

[Jeremy Tache]

Is this what you want?

[Mike Ryan]

You are Kevin McAllister giggling at the.

[Jessica]

Top of the stage for weeks off of this.

[Greg Cody]

I'll give him that.

[John Zaslow]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

He just swung two paint cans at you guys.

[John Zaslow]

That's right.

[Mike Ryan]

Just slipped on micro machines and he's just having the time of his life.

[John Zaslow]

Yeah. And that's right. And what's at the end of it, a beautiful artistic tapestry for everyone to enjoy. Because we need more sparks around here. Because this is an echo chamber. This is not, not, not an echo chamber. You guys saw some of the numbers on Vasilevsky because that's not the biggest one.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Six goals.

[John Zaslow]

I know he. This, this is something. In this Tampa, fl, Florida series, he's allowed six goals in Tampa five times in his career. Three times it's been done by the Panthers. In the last game, the Panthers scored, I think, five goals on 11 shots or something absurd. And Roy, Mike and Zaslow came in here. Chris. Less so expecting that. Expecting that. Because if you've done it three times to him, it's only happened to him five times at home. And you get six goals against a goalkeeper. I've seen win the championship by being a hot goalkeeper. Tender to see what it is. Yes. Sorry to see.

[Mike Ryan]

Which is a surprise because I know you love them tendies.

[John Zaslow]

I do love those tenders.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. I was a little surprised. I don't think that that SAT is like that shocking. They've played each other in the last four postseasons. The Panthers sample compared to other teams is greater.

[Dominique Foxworth]

But he kind of owned us those first two series.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, look, those passing lanes against Tampa in Game 1 were ridiculous. Like, we're literally just saucing air passes over to San Benin in the middle, like in the middle of the ice, shrieking towards the net.

[Dominique Foxworth]

How good is Mackie?

[Mike Ryan]

Mackie is. Mackey is really good. Really underrated. It's going to suck when, like, the Bruins sign him to like a max 10. There's. Hey, another tendee there. Dano.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Tonight's gonna be so good.

[Mike Ryan]

Tonight's gonna be great. A 6:30 puck drive.

[John Zaslow]

6:30Pm God bless.

[Mike Ryan]

Way better than the 8:30. And this means Zaz.

[John Zaslow]

Kristen.

[Lucy]

No, I just learned at 6:30 you.

[Mike Ryan]

Can watch a cat. You can watch the cats and then go into your Pearl Jam concert right.

[Dominique Foxworth]

After it works out Great.

[Jessica]

Or the NFL draft.

[Lucy]

That is better than 8:30, I will say for me at least, Jessica, you.

[John Zaslow]

Have no interest tonight in anything but the draft, Correct?

[Jessica]

Correct.

[John Zaslow]

You are zoned in and you're not someone who's going. Greg Cody's trying to break last year's record of nine exactos.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[John Zaslow]

He's feeling very confident that his mock draft is going to be successful. Have you done any mock drafts?

[Jessica]

I have not done any mock drafts, but I do want Greg Cody's exactos before we finish the show today so that I can follow along from home. Similar to, like a game of bingo or dango or whatever people play these days.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I'm. I'm actually, I'll. I'll promote this. I'm doing a live report card on my mock draft tonight online in the Herald. So I'm. It'll be a live analysis of the draft behind the paywall and a report.

[John Zaslow]

Card behind the paywall.

[Greg Cody]

I have no idea now that as.

[Dominique Foxworth]

A journalist, I never learned. Grading yourself, grading your own work. I did not learn that.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, well, the beauty of that is that it's all out there. Like last year, I happened to do very well. Nine Exactos is excellent. It was better than Kuiper and a lot of other national names. Tonight, I may get three, and I may be embarrassed publicly.

[Dominique Foxworth]

What would that grade be if you got 3?

[Greg Cody]

A D minus, because I think the average. This is the 34th annual that I've done this. That tells you how old I am. I think my average is probably five or six Exactos. Nine is really good. Two or three is, like, unacceptable. It's just bad luck, but also unacceptable.

[John Zaslow]

Zaslow, as a journalist, did you learn at the University of Florida to consult an imaginary bird when making your weekly picks on the NFL?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, the upset bird. No, don't disparage the upset bird.

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