Local Hour: Extending Trips for SummerSlam

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz Episode: Local Hour: Extending Trips for SummerSlam
Release Date: July 22, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz" titled "Local Hour: Extending Trips for SummerSlam," hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz engage in a spirited conversation with guest Chris Cody and fellow panelist Billy Corben. The discussion traverses various topics, including recent concerts, band dynamics, Miami Dolphins' performance, and the intricacies of sports management. The episode offers a blend of humor, sports analysis, and pop culture commentary, providing listeners with insightful and entertaining perspectives.

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Concert Reviews and Band Banter

Darius Rucker Concert Experience

The episode kicks off with Chris Cody sharing his recent experience attending a Darius Rucker concert. He expresses mixed feelings about Rucker's reluctance to embrace his identity as "Hootie" from Hootie and the Blowfish.

• Chris Cody [01:04]: "I went to see Darius Rucker."
• Stugotz [00:30]: "I don't think he's talked to you about it, but I think he's got some judgment about you flying to Vegas to a Backstreet Boys contest."

Chris details how, despite his apprehensions, the concert was enjoyable, highlighting Rucker's performances of both his solo work and classic Hootie and the Blowfish hits. He mentions the crowd's appreciation for familiar tunes like "Wagon Wheel" and some new material performances.

• Chris Cody [01:19]: "Everybody at the Darius Rucker concert still loves Hootie and the Blowfish because he played some Hootie and the Blowfish Biggest pops of the night was when he would come in and sing a Hootie and the Blowfish song."

Backstreet Boys vs. New Kids on the Block Debate

A significant portion of the conversation delves into a playful debate about the superiority of the Backstreet Boys compared to New Kids on the Block (NKOTB). Stugotz expresses discomfort over perceived shaming by Zaz regarding attending a Backstreet Boys concert, leading to a humorous exchange about band rankings and album sales.

• Stugotz [04:52]: "But which is it, Billy? Why does he think Darius Rucker can't say freely that he moved to the UK because he hates America?"
• Billy Corben [11:58]: "In terms of album sales, NSYNC sold over 70 million records worldwide. Backstreet Boys sold over 130 million records worldwide. New Kids on the Block sold over 80 million records worldwide."

The panelists compare their favorite boy bands, citing album sales and personal preferences, while poking fun at each other's choices. The discussion touches on the cultural impact of these groups and their legacy in the music industry.

• Chris Cody [12:03]: "Those numbers are fudged. I could tell."
• Billy Corben [12:16]: "They sat for a co-headlining tour. New Kids on the Block and Backstreet Boys alternated like that incredible tour with Ricky Martin and Rick Iglesias and Pitbull."

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Miami Dolphins Performance and Management

Dolphins' Declining Performance

Transitioning from music to sports, the hosts and guests analyze the Miami Dolphins' current standing in the NFL. They reminisce about the team's glorious past, particularly during the Marino and Shula era, and express disappointment over the team's recent struggles.

• Mike Ryan [25:24]: "I feel like young Dolphin fans, so if we're talking like 25, maybe even 30 years old or younger, have no idea where I used to take such pride in that."

Chris Cody shares an anecdote about a conversation with Darius Rucker, where Rucker humorously ties the Dolphins' success to his personal fulfillment.

• Chris Cody [25:43]: "If the Dolphins win a Super Bowl, I'm gonna talk shit for 364 straight days and the crowd went wild."

Cornerback Conundrum

The panel criticizes the Dolphins' management decisions, specifically the handling of cornerback Cam Smith, questioning the strategy behind his limited playtime despite being a second-round draft pick.

• Dan LeBatard [26:00]: "If the Dolphins don't sign another cornerback, they will have the worst group of corners I've ever seen in NFL history."

Jerry Jones and Cowboys Management

Shifting focus to the Dallas Cowboys, the discussion turns to Jerry Jones' management style and the franchise's relevance. They debate whether the Cowboys' continuous presence in the media is due to effective management or simply the spectacle Jones creates around the team.

• Stugotz [39:53]: "It is one of the great grifts of all time that an oil man who played poorly at Arkansas a long time ago and bought that team for $150 million."

Billy Corben highlights the drama surrounding the Cowboys' free-agent acquisitions and contract negotiations, suggesting that Jones thrives on the publicity it generates.

• Billy Corben [41:05]: "He loves the drama and he always caves. He always does. That's an excellent point there. And it keeps him in the headlines."

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Pop Culture References and Humorous Interludes

BetterHelp Sponsorship Advertisements

Throughout the episode, brief sponsorship segments for BetterHelp intersperse the conversation, promoting online therapy services as a means to manage stress.

• Jeremy Tache [19:48]: "Whether it's learning boundaries, managing stress, or talking things out, therapy can help you feel more like you. BetterHelp has over 30,000 therapists and they've helped over 5 million people."

Humorous Remarks and Light-Hearted Jabs

The hosts engage in light-hearted teasing and impersonations, adding a comedic layer to the dialogue. Stugotz and Billy Corben frequently challenge each other’s opinions, especially regarding musical preferences and personal anecdotes.

• Stugotz [09:35]: "You haven't been to the Sphere yet, right?"
• Billy Corben [13:18]: "He hammered you with."

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Conclusion

In "Local Hour: Extending Trips for SummerSlam," Dan Le Batard and Stugotz, along with their guests, blend sports analysis with pop culture debates, offering listeners a multifaceted discussion. From dissecting the dynamics of popular boy bands to critiquing NFL team management, the episode provides both insightful commentary and entertaining banter. The inclusion of notable quotes and timestamps enhances the listener's engagement, making the summary a valuable guide for those who haven't tuned into the episode.

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Notable Quotes:

• Chris Cody [01:04]: "I went to see Darius Rucker."
• Stugotz [00:30]: "I don't think he's talked to you about it, but I think he's got some judgment about you flying to Vegas to a Backstreet Boys contest."
• Billy Corben [11:58]: "In terms of album sales, NSYNC sold over 70 million records worldwide. Backstreet Boys sold over 130 million records worldwide. New Kids on the Block sold over 80 million records worldwide."
• Mike Ryan [25:24]: "I feel like young Dolphin fans... have no idea where I used to take such pride in that."
• Chris Cody [25:43]: "If the Dolphins win a Super Bowl, I'm gonna talk shit for 364 straight days."
• Stugotz [39:53]: "It is one of the great grifts of all time that an oil man who played poorly at Arkansas a long time ago and bought that team for $150 million."

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Transcript

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[Stugotz]

Chris Cody, welcome back. You look broken and hungover and typically Vegas. This is how it looks when you fly out of Vegas after a fun weekend. I'm not comfortable with what Zaz is doing though. Through Whispers privately. Privately, he is Backstreet Boys shaming you. I don't think he's done it to your face. I don't think he's talked to you about it, but I think he's got some judgment about you flying to Vegas to a Backstreet Boys contest. Even though Billy says concerts of all kind are fun. All kinds of concerts are fun.

[Chris Cody]

Not all, but. I had fun at a concert this weekend.

[Billy Corben]

Which one?

[Chris Cody]

I went to see Darius Rucker.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, nice.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, you saw Hootie.

[Dan LeBatard]

Wagon Wheel.

[Chris Cody]

Hootie, which I don't think he likes to be called Hootie's name, but I'll tell you this, he does not like.

[Stugotz]

To be called Hootie.

[Chris Cody]

Well, that's too bad for him if we're gonna be perfectly honest with you. You don't introduce yourself to the world as Hooty and then say, I'm not Hooty, you know. But you know what I learned this weekend? Everybody at the Darius Rucker concert still loves Hootie and the Blowfish because he played some Hootie and the Blowfish Biggest pops of the night was when he would come in and sing a Hootie and the Blowfish song. And then Wagon Wheel at the end, obviously. But spoiler alert, if you're going to a Darius Rucker concert, he ends with. With Wagon Wheel, they do the walk off thing and you keep cheering and he comes back, did some new stuff. It was, you know, it was fine.

[Billy Corben]

You know, he's recently moved to the uk. No, he just lives there now.

[Chris Cody]

Really?

[Billy Corben]

Yeah. It's just an odd thing. He's like, I just always liked it here. So I'm moving. I live here now.

[Chris Cody]

Does he?

[Billy Corben]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

How often? Because he's touring. So he's not in the UK now.

[Billy Corben]

Well, not presently. He's on tour. But he, I think I saw a year ago. He's like, yeah, I think I'm just living here now. I'M a.

[Stugotz]

But no political reasons like he's not doing it like Ellen or anybody else. He's not saying it cause people to.

[Billy Corben]

Like to live in, you know, his base. Yeah, no, he's good. He's not gonna make a big show of it.

[Stugotz]

But which is it, Billy? Which do you. Why does he hasn'. Can Darius Rucker say freely that he moved to the UK because he hates America?

[Billy Corben]

I don't think he can.

[Chris Cody]

I don't think he does.

[Jeremy Tache]

No.

[Stugotz]

But I'm saying could he if he.

[Billy Corben]

Did, I don't think he.

[Chris Cody]

Why do you always take it there?

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, I mean, you're drawing conclusions. All I have is Darius Rucker saying he loves the uk.

[Chris Cody]

I was gonna tell you he lost his voice a week ago. I had to end a concert short. But he came back and he was back. He's good to go. So if you're on the tour stops coming up, have no fear. Hootie brought it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Were you worried when you saw the concert canceled the week before?

[Chris Cody]

I heard that it was canceled the week before. That ended early. It was the first time it happened. I talked to Mike Golick Senior who's friends with Hootie. Did I talk to him in part to see if maybe some perks could come my way. Maybe I could introduce. Because I want my parents. Maybe I could introduce my parents to Hoodie. Maybe I brought it up. Did I ask directly? No, I didn't. So I didn't get that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Did you do the thing where you check in like, hey, Mike, what's up? Just how's it going? No, he says something back and then you go with the oh, by the.

[Mike Ryan]

Way, it's a delicate line. Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Like when you want to ask someone something specific but you don't want to jump right into it.

[Chris Cody]

No, we. We had him on GBF last week and I just very, very heavy handedly said at the end like, hey, I'm going to see Darius Rucker this weekend. Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Someone who likes asking for things. That's a delicate.

[Chris Cody]

I hate asking for things.

[Stugotz]

It doesn't sound like it sounds like it sounds like the stuga.

[Chris Cody]

I didn't ask.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sometimes you have to set the table like weeks in advance. It's like I'm going to ask them for something in three weeks. So just to check so it doesn't seem like I'm falling out of the sky in three weeks.

[Mike Ryan]

Do you think that person ever gets fooled by.

[Dan LeBatard]

I know they're like, this person doesn't just reach out to me.

[Chris Cody]

I hate doing that. So Java Chamberlain's dad passed away, so I reached out to him to say, like, my condolences. And like, the day before, Pablo's like, hey, we want to talk to Jabba. Can you put us in contact? I'm like, his dad died, and I'm not gonna ask him that today. And then, like, two weeks later, like, so about Jabba, I'm like, now I have to ask him.

[Billy Corben]

While he hasn't put an end date on his time in London, Darius Rucker says this is not a permanent move. I still consider the Carolina as my home, but this is part of a journey of personal growth, and he's moved out there with his entire family, which is dogs.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

I hate him. Why aren't you calling him by his real name? Hootie.

[Billy Corben]

Hootie.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.

[Stugotz]

The way that Zaslo's confidence is ever growing troubles me because he has no problem during these difficult times attacking people where it is that they may not be confident. And I don't know where.

[Mike Ryan]

What's difficult?

[Stugotz]

Well, what's difficult is your Backstreet Boys shaming people here in. In our company. Jason, our director, Chris Cody, because they flew across the country. A pilgrimage, a boy band pilgrimage to watch the Backstreet Boys. And you're judging it. And it doesn't feel right to me for you to be doing this to Jason and Chris as a newcomer, but I can't stop your confidence from growing.

[Mike Ryan]

I just like Chris Cody. When someone asks you, what did you go to Vegas for? And your response is, I went to go see the Backstreet Boys. You're not embarrassed by that?

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, I will admit I lead with the sphere. I lead with the sphere.

[Stugotz]

Oh, so you are embarrassed.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, it's just the first thing.

[Mike Ryan]

I lead with the venue.

[Dan LeBatard]

Most people know when I say the sphere. Oh, the Backstreet Boys. But, yeah, I lead with the sphere. But, no, I'm not ashamed at all.

[Chris Cody]

Why would you be embarrassed to go see the Backstreet Boys?

[Mike Ryan]

Like, traveling to go see Backstreet Boys?

[Chris Cody]

Who are you to peer pressure? I mean, you're my. I mean, you jock of the time. You're the big cool guy. Like, who gives a shit what you think about anything?

[Mike Ryan]

I'm not trying to say I'm a me. That's why.

[Chris Cody]

Exactly. Who cares what you think?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, okay, but you're telling me that Chris just said it. Because he just said it. He doesn't even leave peer pressure.

[Chris Cody]

Chris folds the bullying, and you're Here to bully him. I'm not here to stand for it.

[Dan LeBatard]

I want to thank Billy because he, he brings up a fantastic point just before the show. You're going to make fun of me. I heard you say this exact sentence to Mike Ryan. I just extended my trip for SummerSlam.

[Mike Ryan]

That's right.

[Chris Cody]

Like you.

[Dan LeBatard]

How can you say that and then come in here and shame me?

[Mike Ryan]

Okay. Are you, are you a huge Backstreet Boys fan? Just real quick, yes or no?

[Stugotz]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

You. You are?

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

You're not, you're not embarrassed to admit that?

[Stugotz]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

At your age, you're a huge Backstreet boy.

[Chris Cody]

You're a 50 year old that likes fake fighting. What are you talking about?

[Mike Ryan]

That's. We're gonna. Are we really gonna do the fake thing? That's what we're gonna do here to start the day. No, that's not like, are there, are there, are there no TV shows or no movies that you love? You know it's fake, right? You know movies are not real, right?

[Chris Cody]

No, they're real. I only watch documentaries.

[Stugotz]

He just called you 50 and you took it. He just called you 50 years old. He hammered you with.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, you could see I, you know, my beard is very full. It does make me look a little bit older these days.

[Stugotz]

How old are you?

[Mike Ryan]

I'm very mature. That's why I have a beard now. Because grownups have beards.

[Stugotz]

He hit you with a 50 years old. You did lead though, with the Sphere. If you lead with the Sphere. Let me ask you a question. If you were going to see the most impossible tickets to be able to get of whatever isn't the Backstreet Boys, I would. Taylor Swift, I suppose, as would make fun of you about that too. Drake. Would you lead with Sphere if you were going to see Kendrick Lamar? If you were going to see Kendrick Lamar, would you lead with the Sphere?

[Dan LeBatard]

There are a handful of venues that you lead with. The venue, Red Rocks. The Sphere. No, there are some places you leave. What are you going? Your travel. I'm going to the Sphere.

[Billy Corben]

It's an excellent point.

[Mike Ryan]

Really?

[Billy Corben]

It's an excellent point. Yes. Seeing a show at Red Rocks. If you're in Colorado and like, oh, this jam bands playing Red Rocks. I don't like jam bands, but I got to experience Red Rocks.

[Dan LeBatard]

But I also like. Look, I wanted to see the Sphere, but I. Backstreet Boys been in Planet Hollywood for years. This year I went. But that's what I mean. I like the Backstreet Boys, but I did go out there for the Sphere. I like the Backstreet Boys. Not ashamed to say.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, so if you went there for. Let's pretend that that's true and as if you were in drag, to go see Backstreet Boys.

[Dan LeBatard]

I bought her the tickets for her birthday.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Okay. Let's pretend that it was true that you wanted to go. It's really bo.

[Chris Cody]

You bought it for you, but you said it was for her.

[Dan LeBatard]

Zagaki.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, that's the play. I did that for my wife with the Backstreet Boys down here. I saw them. They're good.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, but again, that's here.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

You didn't travel? You didn't get on a plane. Five hour trip to go see Backstreet Boys.

[Billy Corben]

That's not. I don't understand. First off, we have some pretty damning evidence. A cad chewing a hypocrisy right now. Video team. Can you throw up what I sent you? This is Jonathan Zaslow backstage and a New Kids on the Block.

[Mike Ryan]

What? Yo, don't worry about that. What? Yo, don't worry about that. What? Don't worry about that.

[Stugotz]

Wait a minute. What?

[Mike Ryan]

Yo, don't worry about that. Don't worry about that.

[Dan LeBatard]

But that's the same thing.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not the same thing.

[Billy Corben]

What do you mean?

[Mike Ryan]

First of all, New Kids on the Block are the OG of the boy band.

[Billy Corben]

Please.

[Mike Ryan]

All right? Backstreet Boys can't even hold New Kids on the Blocks jock, all right? It is completely different level. And by the way, Chris Cody, are you friends with any of the Backstreet Boys? Because that guy right there, Danny Wood, is my friend. That is my friend. My friend performs in the OG Boy band. I am of course going to see my friend. Are you friends with a Backstreet Boy? I don't think so.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I'm not.

[Chris Cody]

Whoa.

[Stugotz]

That.

[Mike Ryan]

Whatever.

[Stugotz]

Can you guys put on the poll? Can the Backstreet Boys hold the jock of New Kids on the Block?

[Billy Corben]

You haven't been to the Sphere yet, right?

[Mike Ryan]

I can't go to the Sphere.

[Billy Corben]

Why? Oh, the vertigo thing.

[Mike Ryan]

I suffer from vertigo.

[Billy Corben]

Okay. No, it's probably the.

[Mike Ryan]

Right. About yesterday, to be honest.

[Stugotz]

Sucks.

[Billy Corben]

I've been. I've been to the Sphere twice. Both times I saw you laughing at Chuckles.

[Stugotz]

He called you a 50 year old loser like Billy's.

[Chris Cody]

Just hold on a second. Just didn't the. Didn't New Kids on the Block need Backstreet Boy to go on tour?

[Billy Corben]

Yes.

[Chris Cody]

No one else cared about them, so they had to form the Super New Kids on the Block. Backstreet Boy. Nkost bsb.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay. And which one open for which it.

[Chris Cody]

Probably depended on this.

[Mike Ryan]

Do you understand how concerts work? The opener is the lesser.

[Billy Corben]

Wait a second. Backstreet Boy is open for New Kids on the.

[Mike Ryan]

There's no way that new.

[Billy Corben]

So it's just your opinion.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't even know if they played together, to be honest with Billy.

[Chris Cody]

There is no Kids on the Block had to go home to take their pills and go to bed and all that stuff.

[Billy Corben]

What, What. What is the argument other than their og? Because if you're stacking up like sales, popularity chart top.

[Stugotz]

Backstreet Boys are bigger and I thought considered better, even though I don't know either catalog.

[Mike Ryan]

That is definitely not true. That's your rank. The. So we're talking, right? It's New Kids and it's Backstreet Boys and it's NSYNC and it's. What's the other Bobo?

[Dan LeBatard]

98 degrees.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes, 98 degrees. The lache guy. If you were to rank those, it's New Kids on the Block and it's everybody else.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I think it's Backstreet Boys, NSYNC and.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, you're nuts. Drew Hill, you're nuts.

[Stugotz]

I think you have new additions as well. I think most people listening to this would say the Backstreet Boys are bigger than New Kids on the Block. But we're just going to skip over the fact that he went after Chris, Cody and Jason that way on Backstreet Boys. And then all of a sudden, a source gives our great journalist Mike Ryan the information he needs to point out that New Kids on the Block, we're going to just skip past the fact that this judgment was being rained down from. Rain down from heaven, that it's raining down blows. On behalf of New Kids on the Block, we're going to expose him like this. And he's not going to eat the shame of that.

[Mike Ryan]

Yo, don't worry about that.

[Billy Corben]

Let me tell you something.

[Jeremy Tache]

New Kids in A Block crawled so Backstreet Boys can walk.

[Mike Ryan]

Roy knows.

[Stugotz]

So they are the og. There's no disputing that. But didn't Backstreet Boys become better?

[Billy Corben]

They weren't the og. New Edition was the New Edition.

[Jeremy Tache]

Yeah, exactly.

[Billy Corben]

He just replicated. Haven't you seen all these documentaries? He replicated the New Edition formula with a bunch of white kids.

[Chris Cody]

In terms of album sales, NSync sold over 70 million records worldwide. Backstreet Boys sold over 130 million records worldwide. New Kids on the block sold over 80 million records worldwide.

[Mike Ryan]

Those numbers are fudged. I could tell.

[Billy Corben]

I will say it was presented as a co headlining tour. New Kids on the Block and bsb. Yeah, probably an alternate. Maybe they alternated like that incredible tour with Ricky Martin and Rick Iglesias and Pitbull where they just took turns training, trading the closing spot.

[Mike Ryan]

But here's the thing. When I go and see New Kids on the Block, I've seen them a lot. When I go and see New Kids.

[Stugotz]

You'Ve seen them a lot.

[Mike Ryan]

Danny's my friend. I just told you that.

[Stugotz]

How many times have you seen them?

[Mike Ryan]

Probably like five times for the new stuff or.

[Billy Corben]

That's too many.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't think they have new stuff yet.

[Chris Cody]

Duh.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's rude.

[Billy Corben]

Have you seen how horny Jordan Knight is? He is mad horny on the stage now. Jordan Knight, he's mad horny on the stage.

[Mike Ryan]

I guess I didn't notice that.

[Billy Corben]

17Ft above the stage in a cage and his shirt is off looking at.

[Mike Ryan]

Him like that dude's mad horny.

[Billy Corben]

They. They don't a song where you should be that horny for it.

[Stugotz]

I've got so many questions here. Please put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Have you ever looked at a human being and said, yo, that dude's mad horny? Because it happened this morning in our. In our office. I learned something about somebody who works for us. We were putting people in categories whether.

[Mike Ryan]

There'S someone who's mad horny here.

[Stugotz]

Yes, evidently I learned it this morning that people were being put in categories either miserable or not miserable. Those were the only two categories. And he was the only person who instead of miserable or not miserable, got as a description, just horny, which is.

[Dan LeBatard]

Never good at work.

[Stugotz]

Put the camera right now. Just go ahead and put the camera on Ethan right now so that we can see.

[Mike Ryan]

There he is.

[Stugotz]

There he is. Horny Ethan, ladies and gentlemen. He was mortified by it earlier and he's more mortified by it now. I'm sorry, Horny Ethan, but congratulations on being neither miserable nor horny. Put it on the poll. I'm sorry, miserable. Neither miserable nor not miserable, just horny. At Lebitard show. Put it on the poll. Worst label miserable or horny. I want another thing clarified here that we were talking about earlier. It does have to be infuriating for Darius Rucker to arrive at this level of success and still have everyone think in the UK and America that he's Hootie.

[Dan LeBatard]

Maybe don't have a band where you name it Hootie and the Blowfish and be the lead singer.

[Mike Ryan]

It's like he was insulted you. You name.

[Dan LeBatard]

You could be with everyone.

[Mike Ryan]

Like no one. When. When there's a name at the front of the band that's the lead singer.

[Dan LeBatard]

Should have been Darius and the Blowfish.

[Mike Ryan]

Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. You're Tom Petty. Bruce Springsteen and the Easter Eband. You're Bruce and the.

[Dan LeBatard]

If it's followed by. And the. I think that person's the lead singer.

[Mike Ryan]

Hootie and the Blowfish. You're Hootie.

[Jeremy Tache]

No, no. Hell, Melvin in the Blue Notes. Hell, Melvin was not the lead singer. That was Teddy Pentagram.

[Mike Ryan]

Cool. In the Gang. You're cool.

[Jeremy Tache]

He was the bassist.

[Dan LeBatard]

Do you think the drummer is offended by Blowfish?

[Stugotz]

I. I don't. Is. Is cool in the Gang is cool. Actually the lead singer.

[Jeremy Tache]

No, no, that was the bassist.

[Mike Ryan]

I think he is.

[Stugotz]

Okay.

[Billy Corben]

There's also other confusing bands, like Alice Cooper. Alice Cooper was the name of the band. And then everyone just didn't understand that. They're like, the guy is Alice Cooper. Move on, Jade.

[Jeremy Tache]

That's not her name.

[Stugotz]

Her name is Kelly.

[Mike Ryan]

That's her name.

[Billy Corben]

Helen.

[Stugotz]

I do put it on the poll. Know that Shadow. His name was Helen. Also put it on the poll. Would Tom Petty be mad if. Let me see how to do this here. If no. Would the guy who wasn't named Tom Petty be mad if the band. Would the lead singer workshop this?

[Chris Cody]

Yes, we'll get it.

[Stugotz]

Well, it is confusing. Thank you. Would the lead singer, who's not Tom Petty be mad that people thought he was Tom Petty because he was the lead singer of Tom Petty in the Heartbreakers? Because Darius Rucker is mad that people think he's Hootie in the band Hootie and the Blowfish. And he shouldn't be mad about that because it is sort of his fault.

[Chris Cody]

You know what I was thinking at the Darius Rucker concert, Kind of like along the lines, what you guys are saying. So it's just Darius Rucker, right? But he has a whole band. But you're going to see Darius Rucker. So the drummer, who I assume has a name, his drum kit says Darius Rucker. And I'm like, that's. That's not your name. Like, if I was Tom the drummer, I'd wanted to say Tom the drummer and just Tom the drummer is in Darius Rucker's band. But we don't know any of the members of his band. Or at least I don't.

[Stugotz]

I don't think many people know the names of. All right, let's do it this way at Lebatard show. Who is the lead singer? Who was the lead singer for Hootie and the Blowfish? Darius Rucker or Hootie?

[Billy Corben]

Hootie.

[Stugotz]

Just. Let's ask the Internet. Let's just ask the Internet. Because I understand why Darius Rucker, who's moved to another country and another genre of music, to escape all of the shame in being known as Hootie, like, he has separated himself from this.

[Billy Corben]

You know, they still play shows as Hootie and the Blowfish.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, I do. And evidently they still play covers at Darius Rucker's country music concert where the fans want just Hootie and the Blowfit.

[Chris Cody]

They loved it. They loved I only want to be with you. Oh, and down here, when he said the Dolphins make me cry in the middle of the show for some reason. And it wasn't after I only want to be with you, it was just between two of his songs. A lot of his songs are pretty depressing, but it was in the middle of two of his songs. He just stopped to give a toast to the Miami Dolphins. And he took a shot to the Miami Dolphins because he loves the Dolphins. But it was like. Like apropos of nothing. We weren't talking about the Dolphins. You just felt like, you know what? I'm here. The Seminole Hard Rock. I'm gonna just toast the. The Miami Dolphins.

[Mike Ryan]

Feels like a little bit of pandering, right?

[Billy Corben]

Yeah. And it works.

[Chris Cody]

I think he might have been drinking a little bit.

[Billy Corben]

Oh, wow.

[Chris Cody]

And he took a shot. He also had a red solo cup. I don't know what was in there.

[Stugotz]

Hold on.

[Billy Corben]

It's usually tea.

[Jeremy Tache]

Time to throw away doll journalistic credibility and get reckless.

[Chris Cody]

Here is something we like to call reckless speculation. You're good. I mean, I don't think it's good. Why is that reckless? Before the club, we take some Cuervo shots here. Like, sometimes you just gotta take some shots, loosen up a little, you know?

[Stugotz]

Well, you were accusing him of being drunk.

[Chris Cody]

No, I said he was drinking.

[Stugotz]

His judgment was impaired.

[Billy Corben]

No, it's irrefutable. Unless it was a put on. And why would anybody take a fake shot of anything?

[Mike Ryan]

You said he was alcoholic.

[Billy Corben]

We have video. Certainly did not of Jordan Knight being horny. Now, you're the big New Kids on the Block fan here. Do they have a song that justifies this level of horniness on stage from Jordan Knight, who looks great, by the way. How old is Jordan Knight? Jordan Knight. I think this song is called Hard Now. Maybe that Would justify hard has a bunch of different meanings. Does he mean it sexually? Here, Zaz, fill me in on what kind of song he would have to be this damn horny.

[Mike Ryan]

Sheesh.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, he's giving off a lot of Ethan there. There's a lot of Ethan in that sway.

[Dan LeBatard]

Look at all like what we did to Ethan.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, I don't.

[Stugotz]

Well, we. I didn't do it. I repeated it, but it was done to Ethan in the other room. I didn't do it.

[Billy Corben]

He's very proud of that body.

[Chris Cody]

This looks like Seth MacFarlane doing, like a parody of like.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Boy band.

[Billy Corben]

The same level of hair dye.

[Stugotz]

This. This is somebody. Somebody. Yeah. Who wants to. Goes up to somebody and says, you want a family guy.

[Chris Cody]

So, like you, you know, the least famous member of New kids on the block. That's the flex.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know why you would say that.

[Chris Cody]

Well, he's not Jordan Knight. He's not Joey McIntyre.

[Billy Corben]

Okay.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, that's. That's pretty horny. So the dolphins, you mentioned them. And I saw you doing. And I like Billy, this. This journalist streak that you're now developing. I saw you doing some reporting in the parking garage. Guys, go ahead and just leave that in the picture and picture in the corner so anyone who's got some morning lonely can get some morning horny.

[Billy Corben]

Howdy, folks, it's Mike Ryan. If you were listening to the show just a couple days ago, you know that Jeremy came up with the top five breath of fresh air type of list. A really refreshing feeling. And on that list, Jeremy, help me out.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, that first sip of a Miller light at the barbecue on a hot day, crack it open.

[Billy Corben]

That sound feelings better. That sound ultra satisfying. And then that first sip, it hits. And yes, while it's hot outside as it is presently cools your body down, it hits a little different down here in south Florida. But as someone that had Miller lite north of the border and basically football tailgates as the leaves turn, there really isn't a bad time to turn into Miller time.

[Dan LeBatard]

Next time we should do a top.

[Chris Cody]

Five times to have Miller time.

[Billy Corben]

I like where your head's at because it's every time.

[Stugotz]

That's right.

[Billy Corben]

Every time. Morning time problem. Well, scratch that. Morning time. Morning time. If you're on vacation. If you're on vacation, you're on vacation.

[Dan LeBatard]

If you're at a morning tailgate, there's a noon game.

[Billy Corben]

It's Miller time somewhere. Miller Light. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.

[Jeremy Tache]

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[Billy Corben]

Heating up with Marvel Studios the Fantastic Four. Light them up, Johnny.

[Mike Ryan]

This Friday, time to save the planet.

[Billy Corben]

What's the plan?

[Mike Ryan]

Trust me, I hate that.

[Billy Corben]

Bad plan.

[Mike Ryan]

Come on.

[Chris Cody]

That's a stupid plan.

[Stugotz]

Prepare for Fantastic. We will face this together as a family.

[Billy Corben]

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[Stugotz]

Only in theaters Friday.

[Billy Corben]

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[Mike Ryan]

Don LeBatard my algorithm on Instagram. It's Dan. It's all boobs.

[Stugotz]

Stugats.

[Mike Ryan]

It's a good algorithm.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Don Levatar show with the stugats.

[Stugotz]

I saw you doing some reporting. What were you talking to Big Mac about? Let's play the Big Mac intro without any Big Mac, please.

[Dan LeBatard]

Big Mac's take of the day.

[Stugotz]

So we don't have any sound here from Big Mac, but we have you doing reporting on what Big Mac had to say about the dolphins. What's his appraisal?

[Chris Cody]

So he's. He's very excited about Dolphins training camp, which is right around the corners. Walking in yesterday, stopped talking to Big Mac. I saw you. You went right by us. I thought you wanted to Talk along with us about Dolphins training camp and what the expectations were. But you didn't. You didn't partake in that. So we just stayed there. We talked about Dolphins training camp a little bit. We talked about the quarterback situation. Chris Greer obviously came up, as Chris Greer does come up a lot in my convers conversations with Big Mac. He says he's excited. And then everything that he said after that would lead to the fact that he's not really that excited about it. And that we kind of together came to the conclusion that this year, not a ton of expectations for the Dolphins. The fan base is kind of just like, eh, maybe it'll work out, but we're not coming in with the high expectations the past few years.

[Dan LeBatard]

He said to me, I wish I could be out there right now. And I was like, oh, you're excited about. So I could give Chris Greer a piece of my mind.

[Mike Ryan]

I was like, whoa.

[Stugotz]

The people in South Florida are pretty upset because they've had 20 years of heat and now the hockey team's a champion. And what was the winningest franchise in all of sports when they had Marino and Shula is now a national and international laughingstock. And it's the only way they register nationally and internationally. Otherwise, they are a forgotten regional thing that is well served by not having any expectations, because the first time this century they had any expectations, they were crushed under the weight of them.

[Mike Ryan]

I feel like young Dolphin fans, so if we're talking like 25, maybe even 30 years old or younger, have no idea where I. I used to take such pride in that, where I would be at a Dolphin game in the mid-90s or whatever it was, and they would flash on the Jumbotron. Highest win percentage any teams in sports. It wasn't highest win percentage in the NFL, it was highest win percentage in all of sports. Like the Montreal Canadiens were number two. Number one was the Miami Dolphins. I used to think that was. I was so proud of that. And now look at us now.

[Chris Cody]

I will say this. My friend, Darius Rucker, we were at a concert together. We were doing shots. Him was a shot. Me was not, but we were doing shots together. And Darius, when he raised the glass, said to my favorite franchise ever, the Miami Dolphins. He took the shot. He said, I'm 59 years old. Last time they won, I was 6 or 7 or whatever the math came out to be. He said, if they win a Super bowl, they better win before I die. And if they win a Super Bowl, I'm gonna Talk shit for 364 straight days and the crowd went wild.

[Mike Ryan]

What do you mean? They better win one before. Like, what happens if they don't? They better win one.

[Jeremy Tache]

Well, he did well.

[Chris Cody]

His life will be unfulfilled. He'll have moved to England for nothing.

[Dan LeBatard]

If the Dolphins don't sign another. Like any cornerback, they will have the worst group of corners I've ever seen in NFL history. Their corner. Have you seen this cornerback?

[Stugotz]

Main Akime says it's by far the worst in all of football.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't want to get too technical about it, but didn't they draft Cam Smith in the second round, like a.

[Dan LeBatard]

Couple years, and he's like their number one right now. They haven't let him play for two years.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't understand. Like, if you draft a cornerback in round two, that should be. And he's going to his third year. That should be a guy who's going to be like, really good.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, he hasn't been able to play. I mean, maybe they've just been saving him.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. For a rainy day.

[Stugotz]

Put it on the poll, please. Ebitard show. Do you like when the lead singer starts yammering a whole bunch instead of singing? Because that always bothers me. None of them are as clever as they think they are. Except for Coldplays lead singer Chris Martin because of what he did the other day to shame. And a CEO. A cheating CEO.

[Billy Corben]

Stated reference. But look, when Kanye was on tour at the peak of his powers, the set list remained the same for the national tour. The rambling meanderings of one Kanye west that was unique to every city and that was what the special experience was for those in the ticketed audience.

[Stugotz]

I don't feel like that should count. Because you're not doing that because he's eloquent or doing good speech making. You're doing that because you wanted morsels of the crazy.

[Billy Corben]

Well, there's one show on the tour where he's cussing out Kid Cudi. The very next show, he's giving Kid Cudi love. Another one that I went to. He's taking credit for inventing leather jogging pants. I mean, it was crazy. Quite literally.

[Stugotz]

Kid. Kid Cudi is the one who had his car blown up. Allegedly by Diddy. Correct.

[Billy Corben]

Yep.

[Chris Cody]

I saw Kid Cudi in a concert with Pitbull.

[Billy Corben]

Oh, wow.

[Chris Cody]

Guess who opened.

[Billy Corben]

What a bill. Wow.

[Mike Ryan]

I would say one new kid's on block. Tell you what.

[Chris Cody]

Kid Cudi opened.

[Billy Corben]

Wow.

[Chris Cody]

And then. And then half of the crowd left.

[Billy Corben]

Really? Was this in stage? Was this like an fiu?

[Chris Cody]

It Was at fiu. Yeah, it was awesome. Oh, man. So great.

[Billy Corben]

That's a hell of a book. And when you were at FIU to get man on the Moon Kid Cudi.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Wow. That the bank think that's incredible.

[Stugotz]

Darius Rucker getting in front of a microphone and coming to Miami with a sentence that I associate with him more than any other sentence. And the Dolphins make me cry. And when he wrote it, they hadn't even begun to actually make him really cry. Like whenever that lyric was written when. When Zaslow says what he says, okay, put this on the poll as well. Juju at LeBatard show. Did you know that in the 70s, 80s and 90s, the Dolphins had the best winning percentage in all of sports? Because I assure you that the majority of the audience simply does not know.

[Mike Ryan]

Totally.

[Stugotz]

And so while they weren't quite the Patriots winning seven championships one out of every three years, there was an expectation when they had Shula and Marino that they were going to be Mike Tomlin. Every year.

[Mike Ryan]

Literally every year. Growing up, I think thought the Dolphins had a chance to go to the Super Bowl. I mean, I haven't felt that in 25 years.

[Billy Corben]

Remember how cool it was for local sports fans to see that Hootie and the Blowfish video? And by then they had a couple of hits. They were in terms of adult contemporary music, like the biggest thing going. And then on mtv, you see Dan Marino show up in the music video.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, we had a good run because that was also around the same time with Ace Ventura.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Whoa. Miami Dolphins.

[Billy Corben]

Did you know that mtv for a full week in September is going back to just being wall to wall music?

[Mike Ryan]

Really?

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, I think it's as a way to drum up interest for the Video Music Awards.

[Mike Ryan]

Are they bringing back Total Request Live?

[Billy Corben]

I don't think so.

[Mike Ryan]

Those were Dan. Those were the days. You'd come home from middle school, you put on the trl.

[Dan LeBatard]

And who dominated those. Those rankings?

[Mike Ryan]

I can't help it if it was a different year.

[Dan LeBatard]

How can you crush TRL and then crush.

[Billy Corben]

You're putting over TRL and the band that was a top trl. Basically the entire run was Backstreet Boys. Now you can understand the.

[Mike Ryan]

You're acting like TRL was devoted to Backstreet Boys.

[Dan LeBatard]

Britney Spears.

[Mike Ryan]

What World. Yes, that's right. I got no problem when I'm in middle school watching Britney Spears video. That is correct.

[Billy Corben]

You'd get the occasional pod climb to number one. Rag Corn Bum Bum Song by Tom Green.

[Stugotz]

Are you guys aware that all of it was Fraud as reported by Pablo Torrey finds out before it blew up into the place where you find all sort of investigative fraud. TRL was phony and fake, and they weren't calls and requests that were actually being taken. You should check out Pablo Tory finds out TRL was corrupt.

[Chris Cody]

Not the best episode, if I'm gonna be honest. I listened to the whole episode. He sold me on it. And at the end, spoiler alert, it was kind of, like, inconclusive. It's like, well, I guess we didn't find out this episode. We just surmised this happened.

[Billy Corben]

But that was before Pablo got good.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, he was still finding his wheels in journalism there with the TRL stuff.

[Billy Corben]

Now you're worried every time he tweets.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

You mentioned Dan Marino appearing in a Hootie and the Blowfish video. Did you guys have any reaction whatsoever? Any kind of reaction? I know that people notice when DeMar DeRozan shows up in the Kendrick Lamar video when the oldest player in basketball and a player. I don't say these things about LeBron, but gets made fun of for dad stuff or corny stuff or whatever it is to age in places where young people can mock the aged. How did LeBron do in the Tyler the Creator video that he appeared in? Was it something that landed well or landed poorly? LeBron led lend. He doesn't do a lot of that, obviously lending himself to a video when we've watched him for 20 years, you know, singing music in his car.

[Billy Corben]

I wish I could help you here. I haven't seen it yet. I know Tyler just released new music, and I do like some of Tyler's stuff, particularly because he works a lot with Pharrell, but culturally, I've got nothing here for you, Dano. I can watch it, though, during the break.

[Stugotz]

Do any of you have anything for me, though? So somebody. Lance. So you guys are telling me that LeBron James, just to the point of TRL, doesn't matter like it did? Music videos don't matter like they did. You're saying that LeBron can land in a video now that quietly and everyone would just yawn? Unless he's doing something controversial that something creative or artistic or lending his name to something like that isn't as cool as it would have been once upon a time?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, my question is. And I did. I saw this. But, like, I don't know anything about Tyler the creator. All right? But I.

[Stugotz]

You're more of a new Kids on the Block guy.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, whatever. But I saw LeBron James put out a tweet afterward, which said, stop effing playing with me. And he wrote it in cap. So, like, is he sending a message to the Lakers there? Is that what's going on? Like, I don't know the deal with Tyler the Creator. I'm being serious, though.

[Stugotz]

We're showing our ignorance here. As a show, this video has escaped the majority of our attention. Maybe we have to check in with Horny Ethan or some of the younger people in the other room, but this room doesn't know anything about what Tyler the Creator is doing with his music video. We are out of touch.

[Billy Corben]

I mean. I mean, I've seen Tyler the Creator a couple times live. I'm just not wise to this.

[Stugotz]

Well, I think that that is a resume that, like, we needed it, though.

[Dan LeBatard]

Because everyone was like, wow, Nobody knows.

[Billy Corben]

No one knows anything about Tyler.

[Dan LeBatard]

Little bona fides.

[Billy Corben]

So I'm getting kicked out for being the only person that knows anything about getting kicked out.

[Stugotz]

You didn't get kicked out. You just got hit with a look at me, Louie. That's not. That's just a disgrace. It's not kicked out.

[Billy Corben]

That's not a disgrace.

[Stugotz]

You get to stick or private.

[Billy Corben]

I'm not 40 yet.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right now at the Home Depot, you'll find storage solutions made to fit your needs. Grab an HDX Tuff tote to protect your tools.

[Billy Corben]

Or keep your sports equipment contained with.

[Dan LeBatard]

Reinforced snap fit lids.

[Mike Ryan]

Or stack up and make better use.

[Dan LeBatard]

Of your space with bins and totes built to last. Whatever your story, we've got the gear to keep it organized and protected at the Home Depot.

[Billy Corben]

How doers get more done.

[Stugotz]

Dan Lerd.

[Billy Corben]

John Z.

[Stugotz]

How you love that cat phrase. Bad news for opposing teams in the triple air stall.

[Mike Ryan]

Smiles till the Bloods are clutch again.

[Billy Corben]

Clutch again.

[Stugotz]

Clutch again.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Billy Corben]

And I would go absolutely to the Sphere to watch Backstreet Boys. I think we've come out on the other side. Yeah. You may have found them corny when you were 18, but now it's nostalgic. And also, it's for the Sphere. I've seen two bands at the Sphere. Don't like either one of them. You two Grateful Dead.

[Mike Ryan]

That's ridiculous. Go to a venue and see a show that you don't even like. But hey, I'm at the venue.

[Billy Corben]

Yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Have you heard about this fear thing?

[Billy Corben]

Has it. Has it not been on your radar? Are you just learning about this?

[Mike Ryan]

I already told you that's fair.

[Billy Corben]

A big screen. What. What is It.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know who you're doing impression up there. I know that's not me. Oh, you got a headache? I know that's not me.

[Billy Corben]

I'm more of an Angus young guy.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know who you're impersonating there, but whoever it is, you need to work on it. Yeah, you see what Jay Uso said, not me. You can't. You can't just mumble and then say, oh, that's my impression sphere.

[Billy Corben]

Let me tell you.

[Mike Ryan]

Better work on that Everett sphere. Awesome.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's a bad headache.

[Billy Corben]

Awesome.

[Mike Ryan]

I would lose that if I were you.

[Billy Corben]

I like Vertical Silver Slam.

[Chris Cody]

Big event.

[Billy Corben]

Is that Joseph Gaggy? I don't know who that Silver Slam.

[Stugotz]

If we could get two Zazlows to argue with Zaslow, I think I would enjoy that.

[Mike Ryan]

At least I understood the word that came out of his mouth. Mike, you may. You may want to take some cues from Billy. That person.

[Billy Corben]

You gotta. You got a ring. General Gunther Taylor. CM Punk. Yeah, CM Punk. Challenge him for another title, even though he's only got two wins since January.

[Mike Ryan]

Here's the thing. I'm not embarrassed to say I'm going to SummerSlam. Chris Cody led with. I went to the Sphere.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's the Sphere. I just. Because of Red Rock Sphere, I would lead with that. I'm not embarrassed.

[Mike Ryan]

If you were going to see, like, the. Like the hottest band in the world or the hottest.

[Dan LeBatard]

If you.

[Mike Ryan]

Let's just say Taylor Swift. All right, I said she's the hottest.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm going to the Sphere.

[Mike Ryan]

What do you go. What show are you seeing in Vegas? I'm going to the Sphere. That's agreeing with Taylor Swift.

[Billy Corben]

That's how it works.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm going to the Sphere to see Taylor Swift.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay. At least he had in the same sentence.

[Billy Corben]

Are you going to SummerSlam to just watch SummerSlam or are you going there for solo sequoia?

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, it's holo.

[Billy Corben]

So coa.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm certainly not saying I'm going to MetLife Stadium. I'm saying I'm going to SummerSlam.

[Billy Corben]

Two nights. You're going to do two nights at MetLife Stadium? Have you ever gone to MetLife Stadium?

[Mike Ryan]

No. It's a hellscape that's right here.

[Billy Corben]

Going there. Are you gonna stay in New Jersey?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah. You might as well. You should, because, like, two long nights over there. The commute back to the city is awful.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I'm not looking forward to that.

[Billy Corben]

That place is a terrible new city.

[Mike Ryan]

I hear it's a dump.

[Stugotz]

Put it on the poll, please. Is MetLife Stadium a hellscape? And Mike, I'm sorry, I missed the reference. Can you explain to me why it is that you mentioned ACDC's Agnes Young? Angus Young. I don't know why it is that you necessarily did that.

[Billy Corben]

It's just something I call people occasionally.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I think Brian Johnson is the one that we're looking for actually.

[Billy Corben]

You know, you have Solo Soko. He's got. He doesn't have the ULA fala anymore. He's got a new tribe again.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know who you're impersonating there. That. That I've never heard.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, you know, you gotta look out for Jacob FA2.

[Mike Ryan]

Small werewolf.

[Stugotz]

Can you guys please get for.

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't understand what you said.

[Stugotz]

Some of the.

[Billy Corben]

I said somewhere else. Small werewolf.

[Mike Ryan]

Small werewolf.

[Stugotz]

Can you guys please get for me some of the sound from Jerry Jones just basically lapsing into early onset. I'm too powerful. So just because we sign him doesn't.

[Chris Cody]

Mean we're going to have him.

[Stugotz]

He was hurt six games last year.

[Chris Cody]

Seriously, we've signed.

[Stugotz]

I remember signing a player for the.

[Chris Cody]

Highest paid at the position in the.

[Stugotz]

League and he got knocked out, out two thirds of the year. Dak Prescott. So there's a lot of things you can think about when you. Just as the player does when you're thinking about committing and guaranteeing money.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just what you want to do at a get in training camp going press conference. Let's piss off our two best players.

[Mike Ryan]

Is Jerry Jones explaining to us that there are injuries in football?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, I should have explained better what that sound was. So he's talking about Dak Prescott and Micah Parsons there. So let me just play the sound again. Forgive me for setting it up poorly there so that you can. He's talking about. Because he said some things yesterday that make me think again. We need to take the power and the microphones away from Jerry Jones if they'd like to do any sort of winning. Because they asked him, did you. Have you thought about stepping down? He's like. For a second. For a second I did and then I stopped thinking about it real quick. But I did think about it for a second. And so yesterday what you have is a man who has been power for a long time and who is winning. Because if the lakers went for 10 billion, I can't imagine what the Cowboys are worth. But they stink as a franchise and they've stung for 30 years and they're relevant, but not because they're winning important football games. Just because they do a bunch of stuff that stays relevant and they get grandfathered in in a way the Dolphins don't get grandfathered in from a previous time.

[Billy Corben]

And the Dolphins in terms of popularity, not quite America's team. But in the 80s 90s, a lot of people found the Dolphins as their favorite franchise. And say what you want about the level of success or lack thereof that the Cowboys have had over the last close to 30 years. They got that Ed factor. They are worth talking about. They are the most chewed on topic out of any individual sports team in this nation on cable tv.

[Mike Ryan]

Can I. Can I just. Not to defend Jerry Jones, but.

[Stugotz]

And he just did, by the way. He just did by saying that Jerry Jones is absolutely winning, even though he's not winning because he has kept that franchise relevant by simply having the circus tent around it and making the star on the helmet a redundancy. But. But it's not because it's on merit.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, so Jerry Jones has said this before, right? Where the Cowboys will be on the clock at the draft and even when they know who they're selecting. I'll be damned if we're going to make that pick before the clock hits zero. You're going to have that star on the screen the entire time. Like he has said that before. Is it possible, like the Cowboys don't lose the free agents they want to keep? Like what? Who's the free agent they wanted to keep that Jerry wanted to keep and they weren't able to keep? We did this with Dak Prescott, CD Lamb, Ezekiel Elliott. They don't lose the guys. Like is it actually possible that he. This drags on? It's worth him paying more money to Micah Parsons now because of the Miles Garrett deal and the TJ Watt deal as opposed to doing it last year, which Michael Parsons was ready to do. And it would have saved them money because we're still talking.

[Billy Corben]

He loves the drama and he always caves. He always does. That's an excellent point there. And it keeps him in the headlines. Hell. Well, if I wouldn't know any better, I'd say this by design.

[Mike Ryan]

It's worth it for him to pay more money to the player for us to continue talking.

[Billy Corben]

We got three years out of Dak Prescott's contract. They're still dissecting it on television.

[Stugotz]

It is one of the great grifts of all time that an oil man who played poorly at Arkansas a long time ago and bought that team for $150 million. That's right. That's right.

[Billy Corben]

Oh, man, that's right.

[Jeremy Tache]

Bit of a Profit there, huh?

[Stugotz]

150. $50 million. If the Lakers are worth $10 billion, what are the Cowboys worth? And when you are in the power game of calculating the winning with power and money, you don't need standings for that.

[Billy Corben]

Can you take out a franchise equity loan?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Billy Corben]

And we'll ask David, because, man, Stephen Jones actually had this incredible clip that I saw last week, and I thought about sending. It was about when Johnny Manziel was available for them on the draft board. And to Zaz's point, Jerry Jones loved being about the drama. They had Tony Romo in house, but that was an electric moment in draft history when the Cowboys were up and Manziel was on the board. Everyone in that front office wanted Zach Martin. Every single person wanted Zach Martin. And Cowboys are on the clock. Jerry's like, what do we think about Johnny? And everybody shoots their head down to the desk. No one wants to look the man in the eye. And Steven Jones, his son, has the courage to say, dad, I don't. I think we gotta go with Zach Morton here. No one else wants Johnny. I think we gotta do this. And then they make the pick. And then Jerry Jones pulls Stephen Jones aside at the table so everyone can hear. He's like, that's why you'll never be great. Gets up, leaves the room. Jason Garrett slowly picks his head up and tells Steven, man, I'm glad that wasn't me. And then 10 minutes later, Jerry Jones comes back and is like. Like, I overreacted. Great pick, everybody.

[Stugotz]

I have only spoken in person with Jerry Jones one time, and at the time, he was coming off of all of the success of having successfully replaced Tom Landry with Jimmy Johnson and proving to Jimmy Johnson after their breakup, because he said while drinking in a bar around a lot of reporters, I could get. Get 500 coaches to coach this team and win a Super bowl, and then got a professional clown named Barry Switzer and then won another Super Bowl. And so he's at the height of what his power was. And I can tell you, I have rarely met people in my life that charming. Like, a lot of hand on the knee, a lot of mentioning your. Like you're sitting there and he's mentioning your name, and it's just elegant, colorful, quote after quote after quote. And where he and Jimmie Johnson fell apart was, come on, Jimmy, just make it look like I'm in charge. Can you? And he's like, no, I don't really want to do that anymore. I picked the players. And so when he's interviewed, I think it was by Bob Costas. Bob Costas was like, leaning on Jimmy in front of Jerry. Do you respect his football knowledge? He's like, yeah, he knows football, but not like, I know football. And so that's like, that's where they fell apart. But since then, Jerry Jones has wanted to be the hood, ornamental. Like, Jerry Jones would be fine if it was his face on the helmet. Like, I think he, I think put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Do you think Jerry Jones would prefer if his face was on the helmet?

[Billy Corben]

Which face?

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