Local Hour: Greg Cote's Jimmy Butler Take

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Local Hour: Greg Cote's Jimmy Butler Take
Release Date: January 28, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz delve into a range of topics primarily centered around sports, with a particular focus on Jimmy Butler's tumultuous relationship with the Miami Heat. The discussion also touches on the NFL's international game efforts, the pitfalls of destination weddings, and critiques of management decisions within major sports franchises.

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Main Topics Discussed

1. Jimmy Butler's Situation with the Miami Heat

A significant portion of the episode revolves around Jimmy Butler's ongoing issues with the Miami Heat. Greg Cody, the local columnist, expresses strong criticism towards Butler, highlighting the negative impact of Butler's actions on his legacy and the team.

• Stugotz on Butler's Influence:
  "If we're going to be throwing up every day from the workouts, like... we're all in here on the same thing to win. You're now embarrassing in public a guy who's had Godfather power in this Sport earned for 50 years."
  [Timestamp: 02:36]

• Greg Cody's Critique:
  "Jimmy Butler does not lose any sleep at night over whether or not a segment of the Heat fandom doesn't respect... He's not losing. He's getting exactly what he wanted."
  [Timestamp: 30:34]

Billy Gill and Mike Ryan add to the conversation by discussing the broader implications of Butler's behavior on team dynamics and fan perception. Stugotz emphasizes the potential long-term consequences for Butler's career and legacy, suggesting that his actions are detrimental both personally and professionally.

2. NFL's International Games and the Dolphins in Spain

The hosts express frustration over the NFL's strategy to host international games, specifically the Miami Dolphins potentially playing in Spain. Greg Cody laments the lack of information regarding the game's date, making it difficult for fans to plan accordingly.

• Greg Cody on Planning Issues:
  "I'm freaking booked these flights to Spain and I have to take it out on someone."
  [Timestamp: 33:55]

• Dan Le Batard's Sarcastic Remark:
  "You should just go to Spain for the full three months of the season and that way you're there when the game happens."
  [Timestamp: 09:35]

The hosts debate the practicality and fan interest in international games, with many expressing that the NFL should focus on expanding within the United States rather than venturing abroad, where fan engagement appears limited.

3. The Pitfalls of Destination Weddings

Shifting gears, the conversation takes a humorous yet critical turn towards the concept of destination weddings. The hosts and guests share anecdotes and frustrations about the inconvenience and financial burden these weddings place on attendees.

• Billy Gill on Destination Weddings:
  "You’re insulting all of the people you’re inviting by asking them to rearrange their entire schedule to spend big money."
  [Timestamp: 12:00]

• Greg Cody's Take:
  "They don't want you to go to their wedding. Exactly."
  [Timestamp: 12:37]

The discussion highlights the societal shift away from traditional weddings to more elaborate destination-based ceremonies, questioning the genuine intentions behind such choices and the genuine participation of guests.

4. Critique of Management Decisions and Leadership in Sports Franchises

The episode also touches upon leadership decisions within sports organizations, notably criticizing Jerry Jones' appointment of Brian Schottenheimer as the Dallas Cowboys' head coach.

• Stugotz on Jerry Jones' Decision:
  "It's our statue... representing discipline in the face of spoiled brattiness, Greg Cody is."
  [Timestamp: 25:03]

• Greg Cody on Schottenheimer's Hiring:
  "They were stupid for bringing him in because he's done this everywhere... His contract is up and he's behaving."
  [Timestamp: 31:15]

The hosts argue that such managerial decisions reflect broader issues within sports franchises, including a disconnect between leadership and team performance or fan expectations.

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Notable Quotes

• Stugotz on T-Mobile's VIP Treatment:
  "With T Mobile, everyone can get VIP status. That means access to exclusive events and experiences just for being a customer."
  [Timestamp: 00:27]

• Greg Cody on Reporting Flaws:
  "We're not getting reports anymore. We're just kind of getting things that are put out there."
  [Timestamp: 04:29]

• Billy Gill Reflecting on Personal Experiences:
  "I've been to Spain, okay? I've been to Europe. I don't want to go there to have fun. I don't want to go there to work."
  [Timestamp: 06:35]

• Dan Le Batard on Logistical Frustrations:
  "How are we supposed to plan? When am I gonna book my flight?"
  [Timestamp: 09:20]

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Conclusions and Takeaways

The episode provides a candid exploration of the challenges and controversies surrounding major sports figures and organizational decisions. The intense focus on Jimmy Butler's relationship with the Miami Heat underscores ongoing tensions between star athletes and team management, highlighting the delicate balance required to maintain both professional integrity and team cohesion.

Additionally, the discussion on the NFL's international games and destination weddings reflects broader societal and organizational priorities, questioning the effectiveness and genuine interest in expanding beyond traditional boundaries. The critique of management decisions within sports franchises serves as a reminder of the importance of strategic leadership and its impact on both team performance and fan engagement.

Overall, The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers an unfiltered and engaging commentary on current sports dynamics, appealing to listeners who seek in-depth analysis and spirited debate on pressing sports topics.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

Oh, right this way.

[Dan Le Batard]

Who, me? I can stream shows at 30,000ft and I was able to buy reserve tickets for my favorite band.

[Stugotz]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Billy Gill]

Just desperately throws it up in the air.

[Chris Cody]

Incomplete.

[Stugotz]

Bills fans tonight, their hopes crushed yet again. It ends for the Bills again in Kansas City.

[Greg Cody]

It's not fun to beat the champs. You got to beat the champs and we can do it tonight.

[Stugotz]

I root for Buffalo so late. Post season pain is all. I know. It's just how it goes. Allen's great, but he can't beat Mahomes.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a hard thing to stomach that the team just can't seem to get over that hump of Patrick Mahomes.

[Stugotz]

Here in the afc. The Chiefs continue crushing all our dreams. BLEEP you Andy Reid, BLEEP Travis Kelsey and BLEEP Mahomes. Buffalo did not deserve to win. We can't beat my homes. Can't beat my homes.

[Mike Ryan]

They didn't deserve it cause they weren't the better team.

[Stugotz]

Can't beat my homes. Can't beat my. Their shadows constantly lurking above me. One shallow cross and suddenly they're scoring another super bowl with them. Feels boring. Please, J.

[Mike Ryan]

Buffalo is Kansas City without the trophies.

[Billy Gill]

Yet it's not fun.

[Stugotz]

What's happening nationally with Kansas City is super interesting because they're going to be so excellent that they beat the bleep you out of you. Where you're so frustrated that they always get to win.

[Greg Cody]

That.

[Stugotz]

That is some of the best and most hissing, defiant kind of winning when you can tell everybody you guys didn't want us to win, and we won any. But I have for many years. Now, secretly, I'm gonna reveal a secret. Tuesday's my favorite day of the week.

[Chris Cody]

Correct.

[Greg Cody]

Wow.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, wow. I know it doesn't seem like it because I'm perpetually annoyed, and Cody and Stugatz are maximum rodeo clowning, but the problem I have today is I've got Greg Cody fired up about a topic nobody else wants to hear another word about. However, he's the local columnist who has now descended into willing to call the athlet names, angry enough to call the athlete name. So I've got that in our holster. But I also have stug in the garage trying to fix a spare tire yesterday.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

And I have Billy Gill has a bone to pick. And I've got Jerry Jones and an assortment of clown sound.

[Chris Cody]

Wow. So you've got a lot.

[Stugotz]

So.

[Greg Cody]

But.

[Stugotz]

But Billy with a bone to pick. I snuck that in there.

[Greg Cody]

What?

[Stugotz]

I got to go there first, Correct.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, you don't have to. It's your show.

[Chris Cody]

Whenever Billy has a bone to pick, that's where you start.

[Greg Cody]

I got to tell you, I have bones to pick just about every day with someone or something, so I'm constantly picking bones. They call me the bone picker.

[Billy Gill]

Wow. There meat on those bones.

[Greg Cody]

Well, not after I'm done with them.

[Billy Gill]

Okay. All right, let's go. I want to hear it.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, well, I mean, you're part of this potentially.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, boy.

[Greg Cody]

Reporters. What happened to them? You know what I mean? Like, we're not. We're not getting reports anymore. We're just kind of getting things that are put out there. I heard, like, two weeks ago, there's. There's a Dolphins game in Spain.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

And you know what would be great? The date of that game. So people can plan to go in advance so that people can book their flights when they're cheap, not two weeks beforehand.

[Chris Cody]

Right.

[Greg Cody]

No one's following up on this, trying to figure out what the date of said game is. Chris Cody came out here, and he reported that he thought it was going to be the Bengals. So someone told him something, presumably. Or he decided, you know what? I'm going to take a 1 in 8 guess, and maybe I'm right.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

However he did it, he put himself out there.

[Mike Ryan]

I stand by that.

[Greg Cody]

He will either be ridiculed or he will be praised or forgotten. Probably also. But.

[Mike Ryan]

And by the way, I circled back, because people after that were like, when's the date? Yeah, when is it Back to the sources? They don't know yet.

[Greg Cody]

Well, no, someone has to know. That's the thing.

[Chris Cody]

Well, dig deeper.

[Greg Cody]

Someone knows. But. But like, Chris is not a reporter. So. Chris giving up. When someone says, I don't know, that's fine. He's not a reporter. Now, the Greg's of the world, this is. This is what you should be chasing. You should be going out there trying to find this date. Do you not want to go to Spain to see the Dolphins play a historic game in Madrid? No, you don't?

[Billy Gill]

Hell no, I've been to Spain.

[Stugotz]

Why don't you want to go to.

[Billy Gill]

Okay, hell no.

[Chris Cody]

Spain is overrated.

[Stugotz]

Wait, Chris. Chris, you're.

[Greg Cody]

Everything's in a different language.

[Stugotz]

Chris, your father speak English.

[Greg Cody]

Spain.

[Stugotz]

Your father has become so formed. He doesn't want to go anywhere foreign because he's happy in plantation.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, he.

[Stugotz]

A cruise ship plantation. Don't put me on a 12 hour flight that doesn't have a dozen beers on it so that I can get to another country.

[Chris Cody]

Everything he needs is right in plantation.

[Mike Ryan]

He lives in the city. Plantation for people that are on the way.

[Billy Gill]

Travel. I'm a traveling man.

[Chris Cody]

Good job.

[Billy Gill]

A traveling man. I've been to Spain, okay? I've been to Europe. I don't. I want to go there to have fun. I don't want to go there to work. I don't want to go to a Dolphin home game that I have to travel 4400 miles to see.

[Stugotz]

He'd rather go to Miami Gardens?

[Billy Gill]

No, not necessarily, but at least that's within my range. The NFL has gone crazy with these international games and the fans are hurting for it. The fans are suffering because of Goodell's obsession with internationalizing. Growing the game. Well, how about grow the game in the United States, my man?

[Greg Cody]

How much more growth is there to do here?

[Billy Gill]

Exactly.

[Greg Cody]

What? What?

[Billy Gill]

I mean, what do we put in? The Netherlands has a franchise next year. What's. What's going on?

[Chris Cody]

But no one agreed with you, and you said. Exactly.

[Billy Gill]

I mean, you know.

[Stugotz]

You'Re not even getting your signature lines. All right, you know what? He's fired up.

[Greg Cody]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's too early. Don't do it.

[Mike Ryan]

No, no.

[Chris Cody]

We're picking bones.

[Billy Gill]

Look at this. The finger.

[Stugotz]

He. All right, look, I'm not going to kick him out, but he's got to get his signature lines right the first 10 minutes of the show, that kind of thing.

[Billy Gill]

It can't nail that one.

[Stugotz]

It can't be later in the show. We will forgive that. It's a stamina. Thing. And he's run out of gas but we can't be 10 minutes into the show and he lazily throws out as a good guck. It's got to be, it's got to be a full force full Tuesday. Zagak, it's 11. Give me a gak till 11. Let me press the gas till 11. I'll tell you what's happened here and it happened to all of us yesterday. Sunday takes a lot out of us. Yeah, it takes a lot out of us for the whole week.

[Billy Gill]

Late night.

[Stugotz]

And so we're going to get a Greg Cody who might be a little fatigued today. A little. A little beat up.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, he already is. He's fatigued. This kind of thing, I mean, that kind of thing.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, you're messing with us now.

[Billy Gill]

No, what do you mean?

[Stugotz]

So Jessica, can you walk me through a moment? Never know these things which you're most interested in because we've got Jerry Jones after he tried to sneak ahead coach past us on Friday. Jerry Jones is out here talking and it's just great to see an 80 year old man just drunk on power basically running the most valuable franchise in sports and just hiring administrative assistants to be his coach because he can. Because he's going to run it to the grave. You've got that. You've got video of Stugach trying to fix a flat tire in the parking lot. You've got, I'm assuming, yet more bone to pick with Billy Gill and Greg Cody really wants to call Jimmy Butler names.

[Dan Le Batard]

Also the Steelers are apparently playing the packers in Ireland next year, but they haven't announced that either. Billy.

[Chris Cody]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm just being told that we're just.

[Greg Cody]

Never gonna know when these games are. How are we supposed to plan?

[Stugotz]

Right?

[Greg Cody]

How are we to plan?

[Dan Le Batard]

When am I gonna book my flight?

[Greg Cody]

Exactly right. I'm getting these, I'm getting these notifications saying there's flights to Spain on sale until the 28th. That's today. I need to have a decision by today or I'm just guessing. I can't just guess when this game is gonna be. I mean I could take an educated guess. It's not gonna be the first week of the season.

[Dan Le Batard]

You should just go to Spain for the full three months of the season and that way you're there when the game happens.

[Greg Cody]

This is how. This is how. You want to know how we're doing this? This is the way. As I've stated in the past, I have no interest in going to Europe. Been there, done that. As Greg said, to Spain. In fact, I went to Spain, but I went to Valencia in Spain, and it was way too long. I was there for like, 10 days for a family wedding. I got it. You're a little town. You're by the Mediterranean. It was fine. We saw the church, we saw this, we saw that. We saw lots of things. But 10 days in one place was fine. But when you go to these destination weddings, there's so many activities that you need to be part. I wanted to take a train up to Barcelona. It wasn't that far away. No, we need to go eat with the in laws. And I'm like, I don't need to go eat with the in laws. I can go to Barcelona and see the architecture, see the world. I'm here. When am I going to come again? Unless the dolphins come to play, you know? And now I have the opportunity, and this is. This is the way that you do it. You say wife. That's what. That's what I call my wife. I say wife. Listen, dolphins, they're going to Spain. Wouldn't it be great to go to Spain? Then we can see your family there. Make a week out of it. We'll see your family. But also, we're not going to Valencia again. We've been there, done that with Valencia. They're gonna have to come to us, to Madrid, meet us halfway. Not even halfway, but meet us halfway. So what you do is you position it as a family trip when you're really going there to see a football game. You know what I mean? But I need to know when the football game is, because since the last time I was there, my family has grown exponentially. And sure, I'm to blame for that, but it has grown exponentially. So now things are pretty much double what they were before because there's four of us instead of two of us. So I need to get the deals while the deals are there to get got. But I need the reporters to do their jobs and tell me when this GD game is so that I can get these deals at a good price. I want to book these flights today before I have to pay tomorrow's price tomorrow. Someone do some reporting. Devin Furonis.

[Chris Cody]

I'm back on.

[Greg Cody]

Get out there. Tell me what day this game is. Someone. Anyone.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you like destination weddings, Billy?

[Greg Cody]

I like the idea of them.

[Chris Cody]

The thing that is not attending them.

[Billy Gill]

They're ridiculous, those things.

[Greg Cody]

Destination weddings?

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, don't get me started on that. You're insulting all of the people you're inviting by asking them to rearrange their entire schedule to spend big money. I have an unnamed nephew who once got married on a cruise ship.

[Greg Cody]

Really?

[Billy Gill]

So I gotta. I gotta. All of a sudden I gotta buy an international cruise to attend my nephew's wedding? Not necessarily. It's not gonna happen. Yeah, you know, the. The destination wedding just isn't flying anymore. I don't know why the. The groom and bride get together and decide. That's a good idea.

[Mike Ryan]

You guys being offended by a cruise wedding with all the cruise cruises you guys go on is hilarious.

[Chris Cody]

No, Chris, if you're gonna have a destination wedding, you better pay for me to get to that destination for all hundred guests.

[Billy Gill]

Yes, thank you.

[Chris Cody]

Otherwise, don't have it, guys.

[Greg Cody]

Just don't go. It's a trick, right? Like people that have a destination wedding or people that don't want.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know what?

[Greg Cody]

They don't want you to go to their wedding. Exactly. So they make it as inconvenient for you as possible so that you don't actually attend their wedding.

[Chris Cody]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

And then they don't have to actually do the elopement thing where they actually piss off all the Answer.

[Stugotz]

No.

[Greg Cody]

Well, no. And. And then, I mean, if we're going to be really honest about destination weddings, the way that they do it is they say, yeah, you know, we're booking it through this person. And then the more people that actually come, the more stuff they get for free so they don't actually have to pay for their vacation to wherever it is they're Mexico or the Dominican Republic. What? They get a whole package. So really, not only are you going, you're paying for their wedding, and you're paying for their room, and you're paying for their vacation and for their excursions and for all of that stuff. It's really a trick. And Greg, to your point, the cruise, if I'm going on a cruise, don't interrupt my cruise with a wedding. Yeah, okay. Like, no, thank you. And if. If I have to go to a destination, make it a destination I want to go to, not one that you want to go to. I think if you're gonna have a destination wedding and you invite all these people to go, there should be a committee where you vote on where the destination is, because again, we're paying for your entire wedding, and we're paying for your trip and your room and your flights and everything because of us going, we should decide where you have to get married. Now, if you're gonna inconvenience us, at least do it on our terms.

[Mike Ryan]

Now, I've Got the bride sitting and hoping, where's my wedding gonna be? Where's everyone gonna vote?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, it's a great idea to make the bride and groom have the community vote on. Where would you like our love to be celebrated?

[Dan Le Batard]

Can it be a choice or can anywhere. Can they pick, like, Boise or something random?

[Chris Cody]

Parkland.

[Stugotz]

Well, you're allowing the group, the community, Billy's backyard, to make a joke in that case.

[Greg Cody]

I don't want people in my house, though.

[Stugotz]

Well, it'll never be neighbors back yet. Let's examine this for a second, because I hate that we're becoming this show. Okay, Greg. Cody is sitting here arguing. I don't want to go to an NFL game in Spain. But I would imagine if Meadowlark paid for any employee here to go to Spain for that Dolphin game, that would be a prized possession in this workplace, because not everyone is so jaded and cynical after a lifetime making money off of sports that they say, I don't want to go all the way to Spain to see the Dolphins play an NFL game. I don't want to be that show, Man. Like, inside the NBA is complaining a lot about today's basketball. We're now the show that doesn't want to go to a foreign land to watch the Dolphins play because Cody's tired and just wants to drive for yourself.

[Dan Le Batard]

I went to Ireland.

[Billy Gill]

Ireland.

[Dan Le Batard]

Some of us are not that show.

[Mike Ryan]

I was in Germany.

[Chris Cody]

I went to Detroit.

[Mike Ryan]

Company paid for Germany.

[Billy Gill]

I love Spain. Don't get me wrong. Barcelona is one of the loveliest cities on earth. I love Barcelona. Madrid, not so much. Folks in Madrid, that's not all that friendly. I Madrid going there. But I think that the NFL just expands too much internationally. I'm again it. And again.

[Mike Ryan]

Again with this.

[Billy Gill]

And. And I don't think that. That it's right to ask home fans to travel 4,400 miles on their dime to cheer for the home team.

[Mike Ryan]

You know, luckily, they have a choice. They don't have to go in the.

[Billy Gill]

NBA, where there's a thousand home games a year. In the NFL, there's eight or nine home games a year, and all of a sudden, you're taking 12% of someone's home schedule and giving it to Spain. Come on.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you go on the cruise wedding, by the way?

[Billy Gill]

I did not. We made up some lame excuse.

[Dan Le Batard]

What was your excuse?

[Billy Gill]

Well, I don't want to Pay, you know, $4,000 to go to my nephew's wedding, quite frankly.

[Chris Cody]

So you told the truth.

[Billy Gill]

It's just a wedding. It's Just a wedding.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just cut the check and save your money. Right.

[Billy Gill]

And parenthetically, the marriage failed.

[Mike Ryan]

I was going to ask about that.

[Greg Cody]

I was gonna ask.

[Stugotz]

You gotta let that sit, Billy. You gotta let that sit.

[Dan Le Batard]

Parenthetically, right?

[Billy Gill]

Through no fault of my nephews, quite frankly. I mean, I don't want to get into detail, but it's always a woman's fault. Well, in this case, you know, it's. Come on now.

[Greg Cody]

How long did it last?

[Billy Gill]

She shall remain nameless. I don't know. A couple of years.

[Chris Cody]

Huh. Interesting.

[Billy Gill]

What is.

[Greg Cody]

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[Stugotz]

On Carvana Value Tracker on all our devices? Yes, Kristen. Yes, I am.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I've been looking for my phone for.

[Greg Cody]

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[Stugotz]

All of them?

[Greg Cody]

All of them. Value surge trucks up 3.9%.

[Stugotz]

That's a great offer. I know.

[Greg Cody]

Sell.

[Stugotz]

Sell.

[Greg Cody]

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[Stugotz]

Don LeBatard.

[Billy Gill]

He has been great. He's made great hires.

[Stugotz]

I said all. We've said all.

[Greg Cody]

He said all the first time I heard any of this.

[Stugotz]

Greg, everything you're saying, it's all been said, okay?

[Billy Gill]

You got to understand one thing. Sts me maximum.

[Greg Cody]

That's right.

[Billy Gill]

I say it, it hasn't been said.

[Greg Cody]

Okay?

[Billy Gill]

Understand that until I say it hasn't been said.

[Greg Cody]

This is the D? Ler show with his two go.

[Stugotz]

I want to get back into the destination wedding in a second. And perhaps this statue has been moved from upstairs to now next to me. I'm proud to have it next to me. Representing discipline in the face of spoiled brattiness, Greg Cody is. He's descended into the stage. I haven't seen it in a long time. I really haven't. Local columnist, a man of dignity who has written a number of columns over the years and doesn't usually excoriate anyone. I remember at the end, look, this used to mean something when Billy talks about reporters and stuff. It used to mean something when the local columnist was somebody of a certain grace who in our community at least, you know, when. When he ripped somebody, it meant something. It was. It wasn't just, you know, gas bags on the radio like. Like us or even kids in the newspaper like me. When I ripped somebody, it meant less than when Edwin Pope was doing it. Greg Cody is now Edwin Pope in our market. And I don't know that I've ever seen him as angry at an athlete as he presently is at Jimmy Butler. He's descended in the kind of name calling that I did when Saban left Miami to go to Alabama and I was wandering everywhere calling him a carpet salesman, like, because. Because he sold everybody a bunch of things about how he wanted to be here. And I wandered around calling him names for. For an entire year.

[Chris Cody]

The old bill of goods, huh?

[Stugotz]

I mean, he did. It was the easiest thing.

[Billy Gill]

Liar. Yeah.

[Stugotz]

But now. Now Greg Cody has arrived at Quitter.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. He's quit on everybody. He's quit on his team, on his teammates, on the fans, on the city of Miami, on the integrity of the NBA. I think his actions during all this, and I wrote this column before he was suspended yesterday for a third time this month.

[Stugotz]

Month.

[Billy Gill]

He's simply acting unprofessionally. He's acting childishly. I think what he's done lapses on the betrayal level. Somewhere near traitorous in his actions. I just think he's been. I cheer the Heat for suspending him without pay indefinitely because he deserves it. I haven't, in this. In all my time covering this market, I haven't seen or certainly don't recall another instance of an athlete, let alone a star athlete, behaving like this and just ruining. He's ruined his legacy. Okay? He was the popular player who would have been a tier below Dwyane Wade in terms of being beloved in this market that's blown up by his own actions.

[Mike Ryan]

It wasn't a great ending with Shaq. I know this. I'm not saying that Shaq was worse than this.

[Chris Cody]

Shaq won a title, though, right?

[Mike Ryan]

But it was. It was bad at the end.

[Billy Gill]

It was bad. And look, Dwyane Wade didn't go out on the right terms and went to two other cities before he came back. I'm not saying everything is a happy ending. But Jimmy Butler has just taken a stick of dynamite to his own legacy.

[Stugotz]

If I may here, because I haven't done any reporting on what happened yesterday. I've read the reports. I don't know how much reporting you have done, Greg. I do believe that at this point, I'm led to assume that the Heat will suspend him if he hiccups wrong like that. The rules have all changed now to whatever it is we need to do to suspend him. He's now practicing with a bunch of guys who don't want to be practicing with him. If you believe in the cultish aspects of. Look, man, these people are very much. It's us against everybody. You're either in here or you're not. Because if we're going to be throwing up every day from the workouts, like. Like we're all in here on the same thing to win. You're now embarrassing in public a guy who's had Godfather power in this Sport earned for 50 years. I cannot imagine how cruel and petty he is doing this as he's got the strength of everybody behind him. Stugat because it's the easiest thing in the world right now to Lean back on Jimmy Butler. The entire machine does. Nobody's going to support what he's doing now. That's not. No, no. That's not going to be supported even by the crassest of businessmen. But it is the model for how you get your way in this sport. They benefited off of it 15 years ago and they suffer from it now. Like, this is what happens when the player gets the power.

[Chris Cody]

For the audio audience, Dan is saying all this while pointing to a cardboard cutout of Pat Riley. I mean, kind of like he was a weatherman.

[Stugotz]

It's a statue. It's our statue. We said this was a statue. It's not a cardboard cutout. It was on the roof of the Elser Hotel. Because this show now stands in solidarity with Pat Riley. But this particular name calling. Can you guys help me? Because I know everybody's tired of this. And look, it's just. It's the gossipy, lame news of the moment in sports. If you don't want to talk about Jerry Jones, another suspension for a 500 team that had a nice win last night against Orlando and a regular season that only matters for these things, like, because Boston's losing against Houston. And we'll make that a nice story. But everyone knows come playoff time, Boston is going to be the team to beat if they're healthy. Even if they go through 20 games, they're weird. And lose at home to Houston.

[Chris Cody]

Yep. Maybe the Cavs.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, maybe. And maybe the Knicks. The Knicks looked great last night as well. This. This Heat is a bit of a nowhere team right now. And this kind of stuff is stuff that sports fans love to eat up. I ask you to imagine. What do you imagine that workplace is like for him right now? The mess he made when I explained to you that this is a cult of people who are going to now line up against you. You're either with us or you're. Now the whole machine works against Jimmy Butler. It's not just Pat Riley. It's not just statement after statement. Here's the suspension, here's another 500 grand. The media is going to also do what Greg Cody is going to do because the city's going to applaud Greg Cody saying it.

[Chris Cody]

I don't think Jimmy. I don't think he really cares if everyone's against him. In fact, I think Jimmy's kind of comfortable when everyone is going against Jimmy Butler. So I don't know how it's going to impact him. I do wonder how him not being there impacts the team. Is that a better Environment, it seems. You know, from reports that I have read and heard from, it seems like the players do like it more when Jimmy's not around. So they won last night. That was a great win. They came back, they got the W. I may or may not have had the Heat minus one.

[Greg Cody]

Do you think Jimmy's losing this exchange because, like, Jimmy's winning this exchange. Jimmy's getting exactly what he wanted. They said a month ago there's no circumstance in which we will trade Jimmy Butler. Butler. And if they don't trade Jimmy Butler, they're just going to have to deal with a year's worth of suspensions every five minutes whenever he comes back from his previous suspension. Like, they're going to get rid of him eventually and he'll go to a new team that hopefully will get him the contract that he wants that they weren't going to give him at this time, which is why he kind of started this stink to begin with. He's not losing. He's getting exactly what he wanted. And by the way, if this wasn't happening here in Miami, we'd all think this was hilarious. Like, we'd all think this is exactly. You'd be talking about how the player has taken the power away from management and how he's doing his own.

[Stugotz]

But it is hilarious.

[Greg Cody]

I know, but, like, we're viewing this from a Miami prism where we're like, this is no way to behave. And this is exactly how the Heat got everyone. They've got it as of late.

[Stugotz]

Like, correct.

[Greg Cody]

This is just the most extreme example so far.

[Stugotz]

It's amazing.

[Greg Cody]

It's kind of crazy. It's amazing what he wants while behaving terribly.

[Stugotz]

And.

[Greg Cody]

And supposedly he's getting punished, but he's really just getting what he wants. Like, think he wants to go back and play these games? No, he wants to go to paddle ball pickleball tournaments, get screamed at by fans.

[Stugotz]

On that one. I might stop you just because I do think he wanted the public spectacle of getting his money by showing up and then not starting. And I do believe it bothered him that he was not starting. And so I believe the reports that he walked out of practice early. I would stay until the end of practice, practice if I were him every day, because I would assume they are looking for ways to find that Jimmy Butler. You basically have an organization that I'm assuming is when he shows up to work for these next this week of days, if indeed it's not going to be okay, we'll keep you after the trade deadline. We got 10 more teams available to bid on you in the off season. And then we'll work this to see if you'll ruin the second half of the season. And. And we'll see if you opt in as your threat, like, if that's where all of this is going to go if they actually don't trade him. Because I don't know if anyone in our audience thinks that there's a possibility, but I would say there's a more than 0% chance that they don't trade him. I don't think it's a 0% chance that they trade him before the trade deadline. They might make his life miserable right up into the offseason. You want to keep coming to work.

[Greg Cody]

This way, but if they don't trade him, it's just them being. It's just ego, right? Like, it's just them thinking we need to win every single trade that we're part of. So we're not going to get rid of Jimmy unless we get better, which is not how these exchanges happen with disgruntled superstars. He's costing himself money like he's losing there. His hope is that he makes all of that money back on signing a deal that he's not going to get. But he's. This is not a relationship that is going to be fixed at any point in time. And he walked out because his option is stay here. And now we're going to embarrass you by not starting. You'd be stunned.

[Stugotz]

You'd be stunned if. If they kept him past the trade deadline and said, we'll try to do it this way with where he's going to be, where he's going to be Rookie of the Year. We'll try and do it with big front lines.

[Greg Cody]

If they do it, I believe that it's because of ego and it's to try to prove a point that the players don't have the control here and it's not for the betterment of the team.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, it would be because they're not getting the type of trade that they want. They don't want to take on money that goes beyond next season. And so they have made it pretty clear from the beginning that they're willing to take expiring contracts, guys that aren't even necessarily that productive, but they'd prefer guys that can play a role on the team. They'd prefer to get draft capital, and they want to free up that space. That's why they handled it the way they did going into this season, which was, if the worst case scenario is that Jimmy decides he wants wants to leave after this year. Fine, we'll take the cap space. But the way that this has gone, for Jimmy to say that he's sort of winning on this one. Look, the guy tried to force his way out. He has yet to be traded. He's torched his reputation with a segment of the Heat fan base. Not everybody. And there are plenty of fans that understandably are on his side. But he also is not getting traded where he wants to go. Phoenix is in a total stalemate right now because Bradley Beal won't accept accept a trade to Chicago. They seemingly cannot move his albatross of a contract. And so Jimmy is going to end up more likely than not. It doesn't mean he won't get traded to Phoenix, but there is a chance he still just gets traded somewhere else that also wants him as a rental and doesn't want to extend him. And he's in the exact same spot after torching his reputation with a segment of a fan base that loved him.

[Billy Gill]

And losing millions along the way.

[Greg Cody]

Jimmy Butler does not lose any sleep at night over whether or not a segment of the Heat fandom doesn't respect.

[Mike Ryan]

No, that's exactly.

[Chris Cody]

And you're right.

[Greg Cody]

Not a second.

[Mike Ryan]

What about other. What about other gms? Like, this isn't like what GM out there is. Like, you know who I really want on my team? You know what's going to bring us all together?

[Chris Cody]

A GM who needs them.

[Greg Cody]

Well, the Heat were stupid for bringing him in because he's done this everywhere. He's done. He's been like, he's surprising to absolutely no one. Everyone knew this was going to happen. Except we believe that he culture fairy dust was gonna fix this problem. And no, the Godfather's gonna change Jimmy Butler. Except guess what? His contract is up and he's behaving.

[Mike Ryan]

The way he always behaves at this.

[Greg Cody]

Time in his career. This is not a surprise to anyone. That's why. How could they be surprised by this? I don't understand how you guys are like, we couldn't have seen this coming. How. How didn't any of you see this coming?

[Dan Le Batard]

There is no winner because everyone looks bad in that situation except Kevin Love. Bunch of losers.

[Mike Ryan]

Kevin, you're right about that. Having fun on the Internet with it.

[Greg Cody]

I would too, honestly. You know, some of them are texting Jimmy, like, jimmy, Jimmy, you should do this like all the other disgruntles that aren't in the position to be disgruntled like you Know, you know what I would do if I was you. And then they go and just like poke and prod.

[Mike Ryan]

This is the guy in the class.

[Greg Cody]

That you know is going to misbehave and do the bad things that you don't actually want to do because you don't want to get in trouble. So you just give them all of the bad ideas, like this is what you should do. He's like, you know what? I got nothing.

[Stugotz]

Well, what do you do, though?

[Chris Cody]

Tell Jimmy he'll do it.

[Stugotz]

I think you are right. This is all hilarious areas. And what do you do when you're met with Greg Cody's stinging criticism of Jimmy Butler and only Jimmy Butler, by the way? Because Greg's not criticizing the Heat.

[Billy Gill]

No, I don't blame the Heat for not wanting to extend a lavish max contract on a 35 year old guy. I think that's a smart business decision by the Heat.

[Chris Cody]

And you understand Jimmy wanting to get his money.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, but, but if he's not getting it here, how about show some class, be a professional, play hard for the last part of this season.

[Chris Cody]

Play it out.

[Billy Gill]

And, and you know, if, if, if you get traded, fine. And if you don't become a free agent and do your thing.

[Stugotz]

Forgive me for taking this long to get to the Jerry Jones sound. I will ask that the audience and Jessica and Jeremy and everyone please tell me, tell me, give me a sound, give me something thing that alerts me to when we've talked Jimmy Butler 12 minutes too long.

[Mike Ryan]

He shouldn't have included me in that conversation.

[Dan Le Batard]

Billy was cooking. I feel like we could keep going.

[Greg Cody]

Because I freaking booked these flights to Spain and I have to take it out on someone. Yes, Greg's not doing his job.

[Stugotz]

But this is the thing, right? The thing that's happening with Billy. Yes, Billy was cooking. And I would be happy to listen to this viewpoint by Billy because Billy speaks for both the audience and people who are so very tired of all of the Heat talk. That is an infected this show for the last 15 years. For the last 15 years. So you're voicing something was actually fresh. It wasn't this musty plume of cobweb smoke that comes out of the old columnist's face when he criticizes the athlete for misbehaving. You gave us some new stuff. You said everyone's a fool, you're all idiots. And we'd be laughing at this if we were still a funny show.

[Greg Cody]

I just want to maybe go to Spain, but it's also a long flight, very long.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now we have to change the subject because Pat Riley looks bad in this time.

[Billy Gill]

You know international games are always weeks four through ten. There's your hint.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, but that's. That's a six week window I know to fill and I need to guess the right one. They're not going to start in Spain, right? Probably.

[Chris Cody]

No, they're not starting enough with London.

[Greg Cody]

If we're going to be honest. London. Look, either London gets it or they don't. We don't need to do three games a year in London. Crowds aren't even that good.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Eagles started the season in Brazil last year.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, but that was. Yeah, that's true. That is true. And then there's a whole green green thing in the gang wars. And was it real? Was it not? We didn't know then. They wore green anyways. Everyone was fine.

[Mike Ryan]

Billy, just say you're gonna do a man on the streets and get the company to pay for it. So Roy does.

[Billy Gill]

Not a bad idea.

[Greg Cody]

Roy tried to go to Finland.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, he did.

[Greg Cody]

That was like where we put down on international travel.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Roy thought the hockey popularity.

[Chris Cody]

Scandinavia.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, he thought we should send him to Finland to go drink beer so he could come back with a guitar riff again.

[Greg Cody]

Defendly cup champs, you know, and to go cover that.

[Billy Gill]

That's where the Dolphins should play. Finland.

[Greg Cody]

Finland.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

That's not a bad. Not too bad.

[Mike Ryan]

I get it.

[Billy Gill]

Go to Scandinavia. Goodell, you've conquered everything else in the world. Attack Scandinavia. Have it become an American football region.

[Stugotz]

Finland, figuratively.

[Billy Gill]

Finland figured it up. Dolphin land.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

There, you got it. That's a good. That's what they call the Country Dolphin.

[Dan Le Batard]

Putting it on the record. I don' like that you guys just talked about behind his back.

[Greg Cody]

No.

[Chris Cody]

What the hell sicky is going on with you?

[Billy Gill]

I don't know what came out of my mouth.

[Stugotz]

He got his line wrong again. You got to get for me. You have to get isolated. Him trying to deliver his Zagak there. Yeah, and delivering it really poorly. And get me the Jerry Jones sound, please, because I don't want this guy to get away with it. Jerry Jones at 80 cannot not and must not be allowed to sneak a head coach past us when we're not paying attention because we're busy with the games this week and he tried to do it on Friday and he. He got a bunch of noise at night. And now Jerry Jones is going everywhere giving more press conference than Brian Schottenheimer and he's telling you every way and fashion that he runs the team and Brian works for him and their franchise is the most valuable one in the sport.

[Billy Gill]

Now I get my proverbial ass kick.

[Greg Cody]

Over needing people in my comfort zone.

[Billy Gill]

Without this thing being about me in any way.

[Greg Cody]

If you don't think I can't operate out of my comfort zone, you're so wrong.

[Billy Gill]

It's unbelievable.

[Greg Cody]

This is as big a risk as you can take.

[Billy Gill]

As big a risk as you could take. Take no head coaching experience just sitting.

[Mike Ryan]

Right next to Brian Schenheimer. Look, if you think I can't get out of my comfort zone, look at this idiot I just hired.

[Chris Cody]

No coaching experience.

[Billy Gill]

Wow.

[Mike Ryan]

Brian is just like awkwardly like.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, thank you.

[Mike Ryan]

Thanks, coach.

[Stugotz]

I'll prove to you guys how tough I am. Look at this fool I hired. I can't even imagine how distorted that dude is. Just distorted from whatever comes with fame and wealth in that sport. I saw, I said yesterday, Don Van Nada and Seth Wickersham, who are among the best of real reporting that Billy wants on let's game in Spain.

[Chris Cody]

They did a deep dive.

[Stugotz]

No, it wasn't deep. It was a shallow dive. And I've come to expect deep, deep dives from them. And all they did was like, there was some secondhand reporting on stuff that. That confirmed what we already knew, that Dan Snyder's a bleep hole. And that Stan Snyder is a bleep hole. Who would not enjoy Washington having success after he's gone. But the reporting from great reporters created a story that made it yet more obvious to me, man, the wealthy in this country are getting so wealthy that reporters can't even really get near them. Not anymore. Like that there's so many shields and interferences that if you kill the news media, if, like Wickersham and Van Naata are doing it as well as it can be done, and they're going anonymous sources that were near the dinner and heard about the dinner. Because where rich people reside, reporters can't get there anymore to smoke out like what the real truth is. And Snyder left in disgrace. Like Snyder. Snyder. We didn't even get to the. They did a lot of reporting on Snyder. What Snyder left in his wake was a disaster minefield that was only revealed to us because the other owners also wanted him gone.

[Chris Cody]

Right? But Daniel Snyder not being happy with the Commander success after he leaves is the least shocking thing I've ever heard. I don't need a deep dive on.

[Stugotz]

That's correct.

[Chris Cody]

That's a waste of reporting.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, by the way, van out 100% knows when the Spain game is built.

[Greg Cody]

I know.

[Dan Le Batard]

But Jerry Jones was not. He was not shy about chatting during this press conference. Apparently, it was just like 80 minutes of long answers. And there was another really awkward moment when they introduced Brian Schottenheimer that I don't know if people caught, but it made me. It made me cringe.

[Stugotz]

Our new Dallas Cowboys head coach, Brian Schottenheimer and chief operating officer, executive vice president of player personnel, and co owner Stephen Jones.

[Mike Ryan]

No clapping. And Brian Schottenheimer fills in the. Feels, the awkwardness, and it's like, I'll clap.

[Chris Cody]

He has no choice.

[Greg Cody]

You think if I get deviant a little liquored up with the rooster, he'll let it slip? Tell the rooster, then the rooster could tell me. The rooster, for those of you who don't know, is Don Van Natta's domino partner. We played dominoes together, tvn and the rooster and me. They whipped my ass.

[Stugotz]

Chris, are you simply laughing because Billy sunk deep into his explanation of who the rooster was because he realized he was ending a segment with a joke for seven people.

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[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, sure thing.

[Greg Cody]

Hey, you sold that car yet?

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, sold it to Carvana.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.

[Billy Gill]

The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency, no interest over 36 months. Yeah, no.

[Greg Cody]

Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and.

[Billy Gill]

And paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.

[Greg Cody]

Just like that. Yep. No hassle.

[Stugotz]

None.

[Greg Cody]

That is super convenient.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Greg Cody]

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