Local Hour: Greg Kills His Horse

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Local Hour: Greg Kills His Horse

Date: February 25, 2026

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Episode Overview

Broadcasting from downtown Miami’s Elser Hotel, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the crew serve up their signature blend of sports banter, pop-culture chat, local flavor, and quick-witted debate. This "Local Hour" opens with Heat despair, sports heartbreaks, and the fallout from Greg Cody’s horse's ill-fated race. Expect plenty of Miami sports talk, memorable Vegas tales, and a poignant discussion of South Florida’s sports icons, all packaged with trademark sarcasm and self-deprecation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Miami Heat Letdown & NBA Cynicism

• Heat lose to Milwaukee, sparking frustration:
  • Stugotz vents about perpetual mediocrity and a wasted chance for optimism.
  • Greg Cody and Roy break down the defensive collapse and missed opportunities.
  • “I'm just reminded how completely average this team is. Like, that was, like, that was frustrating last night, right?” — Stugotz (00:38)
• Bucks’ quality debated:
  • The panel disputes whether the Bucks “suck” or are just playing well at the right time, highlighting how losses sting when the opponent is seen as inferior.
• Fans’ emotional whiplash:
  • Commentary on fans getting too hyped after a few wins, only to be disappointed again.

Podcasting Practices: Listening Back & Getting Better

• Dan’s ritual of listening to his own podcast:
  • Reveals he listens on 1.5x speed, first as a listener for enjoyment, then as a critic.
  • "The reason is the first time I listen... I try to listen as a listener. ...The next day I listen to it critically." — Dan Le Batard (05:01)
• Audio woes at Gulfstream Park:
  • Dan recounts audio problems (wind noise) during a recent episode, exposing behind-the-scenes challenges.

Greg’s Racing Disaster: The Saga of the Horse

• Greg’s horse finishes last and the dark humor follows:
  • Panel riffs on the fate of racehorses and the industry’s grim jargon (“destroyed the horse”).
  • “So what happens now? You put it down? What happens?” — Stugotz (07:44)
  • “Well, the problem was, we learn after the fact that there was a physical excuse.” — Dan Le Batard (07:57)
  • The story leads to jokes about putting a horse’s head in Greg’s bed, but also a real explanation: The filly crashed into the gate at the start, was underprepared, and there was an injury.
• Roy’s traumatic horse story:
  • Roy describes a Dominican Republic childhood mishap, nearly going over a cliff on a runaway horse named El Diablo, “the devil.”
  • “This horse starts going like we're in the Kentucky Derby... we're getting to the cliff.” — Roy (11:08)
  • Sid’s childhood horse party story offers a wholesome contrast.

Vegas Sphere Review & Band Name Pedantry

• Dan’s Vegas adventure with The Eagles at The Sphere:
  • Raves about the immersive visuals and sound, admits previous skepticism was misguided.
  • “The presentation they do is almost ineffably astounding… astoundingly real.” — Dan Le Batard (20:27)
  • Debates over whether the band name is “Eagles” or “The Eagles,” weaving in classic rock trivia (Talking Heads, Foo Fighters, The Beatles).
  • Sid brands Eagles the “ultimate system band”—songs that flourish in the right time and place, like a California sunset.

Elevating South Florida Sports Heroes & Community Impact

• Alexander Barkov’s philanthropy:
  • Stugotz calls for Barkov to get the respect of local legends (Marino, Wade), especially after his million-dollar-plus donation to Joe DiMaggio Children’s Hospital.
  • “It takes a special kind of dude...to devote their free time to being around and trying to make a great day for sick children.” — Stugotz (25:28)
  • Greg adds that Barkov is deeply present and genuine in his interactions with young patients.
  • Sid and the crew reflect on what true courage and heroism looks like outside the arena, extending praise to Greg’s own work at Camp Fiesta.

Who Are Miami’s Core Sports Icons?

• Mount Rushmore debate:
  • Wade and Marino are “baked in” as Miami sports faces, but Barkov’s “athletic deed” and community presence could put him next in line.
  • “Especially now. It's not a niche sport anymore... Hockey has fully... arrived.” — Dan Le Batard (32:27)
• Miami’s sports "market size" and history:
  • Conversation about Miami’s late emergence as a legitimate major sports city, compared to other markets.

The Heartbreak (and Value) of Chasing Sports Moments

• Dolphins malaise and definition of success:
  • The Dolphins become a metaphor for storied franchises fallen on hard times, compared to the Knicks and Niners.
  • “We're one of the most storied franchises in pro football…and people hold you up…but they haven't done nothing for this millennium.” — Sid (36:02)
  • Panel agrees: It’s the moments that matter, even heartbreaks and close calls, not just championships.
  • “I want the moments… The moments to me are just as good as winning the championship. And the Dolphins—I haven't had a moment...since the Lamar Smith game.” — Stugotz (38:21)
• Canes moments and the pain of expectations:
  • Roy highlights key UM football plays, Greg admits those moments risk turning hollow if not followed by ongoing success.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Miami Heat disappointment:
  • “I'm just reminded how completely average this team is. That was frustrating last night, right?” — Stugotz (00:38)
• On listening to yourself:
  • “The first time I listen to it back, I try to listen as a listener… Is it funny? Is it good? …And then the next day I listen to it critically.” — Dan Le Batard (05:01)
• On racehorses and fate:
  • “...when a thoroughbred gets put down, they say, we destroyed the horse.” — Stugotz/Sid (08:11)
  • “The problem with racehorses is they're very fragile. They're extremely fragile. More so than human athletes.” — Dan Le Batard (08:40)
• Roy’s horse near-death story:
  • “This horse starts going like we're in the Kentucky Derby... we're getting to the cliff.” — Roy (11:08)
  • “Come to find out, his name was El Diablo, which means the devil.” — Roy (13:02)
• Dan on The Sphere:
  • “The presentation that they do is almost ineffably astounding...astoundingly real.” — Dan Le Batard (20:27)
• System bands and American icons:
  • “[Eagles are] the ultimate system band… optimal song you could be playing in that environment.” — Sid (22:13)
• Stugotz on Barkov:
  • “It takes a really special type of dude, all right, to devote their free time to being around and trying to make a great day for sick children.” — Stugotz (25:28)
• On the misery of Dolphins fandom and the value of moments:
  • “We are the New York Knicks.” — Dave (36:50)
  • “It isn't just about winning the championships anymore. I want the moments. The moments to me are just as good as winning the championship.” — Stugotz (38:21)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• 00:38 — Breakdown of the Miami Heat’s loss and the team’s averageness.
• 05:01 — Dan discusses his method of listening back to his own podcast for improvement.
• 07:15 — Greg Cody’s horse racing disaster and the dark humor about “destroying” the horse.
• 10:20 — Roy’s harrowing tale of almost dying on a runaway horse at 13.
• 18:35 — Dan’s and Greg’s Vegas trip recap, including their experience at The Sphere.
• 20:27 — Dan’s detailed, vivid review of the Eagles’ presentation at The Sphere.
• 25:28 — Stugotz spotlights Alexander Barkov’s philanthropy and community contributions.
• 32:18 — The show's Mount Rushmore: Should Barkov stand alongside Marino and Wade?
• 34:01 — Discussion on Miami’s market, sports history, and arrival as a “major” city.
• 36:02 — Are the Dolphins just the Knicks or Niners—one-time NFL kings now adrift?
• 38:21 — What makes being a fan worthwhile? Stugotz’s powerful case for "the moments" over titles.

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Tone & Style

The episode continues Dan Le Batard and crew’s tradition of blending sharp sports analysis with rapid-fire wit, self-effacing humor, and a knowing sense of South Florida community. They oscillate between earnest praise (Barkov, charity work), world-weary fandom (Heat, Dolphins, Canes), and meta-commentary about media, music, and what it means to be a sports fan—always with playful jabs and no one taking themselves too seriously.

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Summary Takeaway

This Local Hour embodies the Le Batard Show’s best: local sports gripes, existential sports questions, weird side stories (runaway devil horses), and an earnest appreciation for the athletes and moments that make Miami special—despite all the heartbreak. Whether lambasting the Dolphins’ futility or getting surprisingly deep about community, it’s a characteristically rich episode for both new listeners and long-suffering South Florida sports fans.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Stugats]

Just when I'm, like, about ready to. To really sink my teeth into this Heat team and start to believe that they can do something and even. Even fake excitement about it, you know, you've won three in a row. You're going into Milwaukee, and I get it. Milwaukee's had a good February. Whatever you're going into Milwaukee. You got a chance here to beef up the record a little bit. And then you have that stinker of a fourth quarter last night. And I'm just reminded how completely average this team is. Like, that was, like, that was frustrating last night, right? Go to Milwaukee. Beat the stupid Bucks. Give me a little bit excited here. You know, that kind of performance. And like, I'm. I can't. I can't get wrapped up in it.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, disappointing loss for sure. Definitely disappointing. They couldn't get any stops on the defensive end kind of from the beginning of the game. Like, they just really weren't as physical as they usually are defensively.

[Stugats]

Were we up 12 at the beginning of the fourth early?

[Greg Cody]

They got up 8. They got up 8 at the beginning of the fourth quarter. And then it was back to back threes in the span of about 15 seconds that forced a timeout. And the frustrating part down the stretch was like, not only could the Heat not get a field goal, they were getting to the line, but they just could not stop Milwaukee. And that wasn't even a product of. Of personnel. It was their starters on the floor. Milwaukee just kept spamming the same play over and over again. They got hot, and the Heat couldn't make threes, didn't make their free throws. They were up two with, I think, like, two minutes left, and Andrew Wiggins missed two free throws, and they couldn't close it out. And it was a really disappointing loss. Cause you want to continue that momentum. Like, if you have to pick a win this week between Milwaukee and Philly, it's obviously Philly because that's the team you're chasing, but you want to continue what was happening. If you're going to try to get yourself excited about a run.

[Sid]

Didn't you say earlier this week, don't let them win, too?

[Greg Cody]

I did because I said I would be insufferable. I didn't say they were going to do anything.

[Roy]

So, like, are we.

[Sid]

Don't let him win one now.

[Dave]

We're good. No, we're good.

[Roy]

No, we're good.

[Greg Cody]

I won't be insufferable.

[Dave]

You won't be insufferable.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, good.

[Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Congratulations. You should actually be celebrating.

[Roy]

Jeremy, when you say that they couldn't stop anybody in Milwaukee, remember, Giannis is not playing. They couldn't stop Kevin Porter Jr. They couldn't stop Ryan Rollins. They couldn't stop Bob Porter.

[Greg Cody]

Not Ryan Rollins, man.

[Roy]

Good player.

[Greg Cody]

Good player.

[Roy]

They couldn't stop Kyle Kuzma. Those are the guys that we're talking about. Kyle Kuzma couldn't stop.

[Greg Cody]

He was hot to start the game. No, I mean, that was hot.

[Dan LeBatard]

They.

[Greg Cody]

The. The two of. Of them, between Rollins and Kevin Porter Jr. Were both really, really good last night, but it was more the defensive scheme. Like, they just didn't. The Heat did not play well. They didn't hit threes, they turned the

[Sid]

ball over a lot.

[Greg Cody]

They played poorly defensively, and they lost the game to a team that's now won seven of their last nine and is.

[Stugats]

I don't want to hear about the Bucks.

[Roy]

That's what I told him.

[Greg Cody]

Finish my.

[Roy]

Then him walked in this morning. He's like, the Bucks are playing well. I was like, they suck.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, but team sucks. Okay, but they are playing well.

[Stugats]

Like, I mean, does that team suck?

[Dave]

That team sucks.

[Stugats]

Yeah, come on.

[Greg Cody]

But they're playing well. And it's a matter of where you meet teams at what time you go on the road. You lose to a team, it's not a good loss.

[Stugats]

I didn't know where that team sucked.

[Greg Cody]

I didn't try to say it was a good loss. Buck suck.

[Stugats]

Yeah, he know.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dave knows about.

[Greg Cody]

No, I get it. I. All I was trying to finish the sentence was saying they're playing well enough to maybe get that 10 seed and let Giannis have an opportunity to get to the play in, which would be kind of fun.

[Sid]

I think we learned something from yesterday to today. Greg Cody showed up, still with the goatee, basically accepting the praise of Sid, our guest yesterday. Zaz goes against the man in the mirror by wearing a hat. I thought you just declared yesterday that when you're in the king's chair, the throne. You treat it with respect.

[Dave]

Yes.

[Sid]

And act like Kingpin. Show up bald. Maybe.

[Stugats]

Maybe I didn't like everyone laughing at me. All right, that's so bad.

[Sid]

King Kong.

[Stugats]

A little self conscious.

[Dan LeBatard]

And maybe I didn't realize that Sid was being facetious when he was complimenting my goatee.

[Sid]

He wasn't.

[Stugats]

I don't think he was.

[Greg Cody]

No. That's a good goatee.

[Roy]

Fifteen years younger, Greg.

[Dan LeBatard]

I know, but that.

[Stugats]

See, that part's a little bit facetious. 15 years younger. Like, what's he trying to tell you?

[Dan LeBatard]

He said 18. No, when I listen to it back, which I do, all.

[Sid]

You listen to it.

[Dan LeBatard]

I listen to it back.

[Ad Voice]

Jack.

[Sid]

Ask him how many times he listens to his own podcast throughout the week.

[Dan LeBatard]

And you know, the Greg Cody Show.

[Stugats]

You listen to your podcast back as well?

[Dan LeBatard]

I listen to it twice every week.

[Dave]

Why?

[Sid]

Through different ears. Dad, talk it.

[Stugats]

Why?

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm going to tell you why I listen to it. First of all, I listen on 1.5, so. Okay, quickly. I listened to it back the first time.

[Stugats]

I've never done that, by the way, with anything. I listen to people. People say they think and that it's a great little 1.5.

[Sid]

Yeah. I do advocate for listening back to yourself periodically and with some distance. Don't do it immediately after. I'm a big 1.5.

[Roy]

Only way to do it.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Roy]

Gotta go through it quick.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, the reason is the first time I listen to a back. I try to listen as a listener. Like, I don't listen to it critically. I'm like, okay, what is the listener hearing? Is he enjoying it? Is it funny? Is it good?

[Stugats]

And do you do this right after you. Rather it comes out?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. Generally it comes out every Monday. I generally hear it Monday. And then the next day I listen to it critically. Like, what did we miss? What should we have done?

[Stugats]

Critical year.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. And. And that's what I do. And then the third time, I listen to the YouTube version the third time.

[Dave]

Now, Greg, I'm with you on this 100%. I will listen to Cinephobe every time it drops. Now, the difference is our episodes dropped, like weeks after we recorded it. So everything is kind of on a delay. So I do have some distance, but I will listen. And I listen at one time speed because I want to know, are you

[Sid]

as a listener, are you as a producer?

[Dave]

A little bit of both.

[Sid]

Like, you could kill two birds there.

[Ad Voice]

I don't know why.

[Sid]

My dad does two different. Listen.

[Stugats]

It's a mindset.

[Greg Cody]

So.

[Dave]

So because I have some distance, though, it's easier to do that because when I'm listening, it's like I don't even remember what we were talking about. So I'm laughing, and sometimes I'll be in a sense where like, oh, man, this setup, man, I should have just come in with a slam dunk right here and said this. And then I'll say it on the pod. I'm like, oh, my God. Same note, too, to myself from three weeks ago. It's a great feeling to know that I'm consistent like that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Dave]

Now, the watching of the YouTube, that one might be a little much.

[Stugats]

Glovain.

[Dan LeBatard]

Lil Vane. Yeah.

[Stugats]

You think so?

[Dave]

Will Vane.

[Stugats]

Lil Vane.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Just trying to get the nose. I guess the bottom line is, do you like what you're hearing, Greg? Cody, when you do your critical. Well, which is your favorite? Is it when you listen as a listener, as you just described, and then you give it your critical ear, what does the critical ear detect that improves the show?

[Dan LeBatard]

I'll give you an example from the current episode where we're live at Gulfstream park watching my horse run for the first time. And the critical ear was like, wow, all I hear is the wind. It was. It was windy and. And the mic was picking up.

[Stugats]

The sound team didn't do a good job.

[Sid]

So in hindsight, you would have said, hey, wind cut it off.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, exactly.

[Roy]

How'd the horse do, Greg?

[Dan LeBatard]

Not good.

[Roy]

That.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, no.

[Sid]

You know, it could have.

[Roy]

What?

[Dan LeBatard]

Middle of the pack would have finished last. Dead last.

[Stugats]

So what happens now? You put it down. What happens?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Roy]

Glue factory.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Really?

[Dan LeBatard]

No.

[Dave]

Gonna have a bad day.

[Sid]

He put it in his own bed. The head of the horse.

[Roy]

Own bed.

[Sid]

The episode ends with him putting it down.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, the problem was, we learn after the fact that there was a physical excuse.

[Stugats]

Shocking With a horse.

[Sid]

So I like that we call it destroying the horse. I don't know if that helps. If it makes it feel more humane

[Dave]

to us to destroy it.

[Sid]

We destroyed the horse.

[Dave]

I mean, like, who says that?

[Stugats]

You know, that is the terminology. Yeah.

[Sid]

When a thoroughbred gets put down, they say, we destroyed the hors.

[Roy]

Yeah.

[Dave]

They don't say put down.

[Stugats]

No. He had to be destroyed.

[Dan LeBatard]

Only dogs get put down or euthanized.

[Dave]

We say destroyed.

[Sid]

None of that sounds good.

[Dave]

Makes me think it's an object. It's not a. It's not a.

[Sid]

Well, I think that's what we're saying.

[Stugats]

I think that is what it is to a lot of these people.

[Dave]

Like the Death Star, like The Death Star Guide.

[Roy]

It was like he destroyed the horse.

[Dave]

What happened to the horse? Destroyed the horse.

[Dan LeBatard]

The problem with racehorses is they're very fragile. They're extremely fragile. More so than human athletes.

[Stugats]

Well, whose fault was it that it came in last?

[Dan LeBatard]

It had only run one race in its. In her. It's a Philly in her career, and not for 10 months. So she. Although she had been training with Bill Mott, a Kentucky Derby winning trainer, Bill

[Stugats]

Guy didn't do Bill Mott thought she

[Dan LeBatard]

was ready, and apparently she wasn't. But she needed to run. She needed the practice, so to speak.

[Stugats]

So what's the outlook?

[Dan LeBatard]

She hit the gate. Coming out of the gate. She immediately crashed into the gate. And that's no good.

[Sid]

It was a disaster from the. Like. It wasn't like there was hope. And she faded. It was like last place the entire time. 2020 hindsight. 2020 hindsight. But you should not have had Chris as jockey. Yeah, I think that would be the first change I would make.

[Stugats]

Do you know how to ride a horse?

[Sid]

I've ridden a horse.

[Stugats]

Does anyone here know how to ride a horse?

[Dave]

What's so hard?

[Roy]

I'm sworn off horses.

[Dave]

Don't. He almost died.

[Roy]

Almost died in the horse in Dominican Republic.

[Dave]

Diablo, you gu. This is a great story.

[Sid]

Is it your honeymoon?

[Roy]

No, it was not my honeymoon. I was like 12 years old, 13 years old. And we go to Dominican Republic. Used to go every single year to Punta Cana. And one of the times my parents were like, hey, let's go horseback riding the mountains. And we're like, all right, cool. I'm 13. I don't know, whatever. So we get to this. This. This ranch up in the mountains, and they've got a couple horses. And obviously I'm a big kid. Like, I've always been a big kid my whole life at 13, even at 13. So they kind of look at me and they're like, we can't put them on a smaller horse. We got to put them on kind of a bigger horse. And look over and they're like, gonna put you on that one over there. That one had its own pen. So it's by itself. The other horses are in the other.

[Stugats]

It's got like the Hannibal Lecter mask.

[Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Roy]

Kind of had like a leather thing on it with the blinders. And I was like, okay, whatever. Pull it up. So we start going down this grove of maybe a mile long of grove until it goes to, like, this cliff. And then you go down the cliff and you go into the. Into The. To the beach. So the cliff. Imagine a row of a mile long of just palm trees on each side with just, like, mangroves. And then we're going down. So we're all in a line together, maybe 15 horses. We're going down. Dominican guy in the front leading the pack, and everybody else, all the tourists in the back. So one of the guys, one of the families that we were with, the husband, was like, hey, can I go and, like, run my horse a little bit? I ride horses. Like, can I go do it? The guy's like, yeah, for sure. Go do it. So the horse gets out of line, and he starts going. And my horse sees that, like, looks through the line, is like, oh, wait a second, it's on now. So he comes out of line. Remember, I'm 13 years old. I've ridden a horse maybe, like, three or four times in my life. This horse starts going like, we're in the Kentucky Derby. And I'm sitting there, and we're getting to the cliff. So the cliff is, like, half mile away now, a quarter mile away. And this guy is not slowing down. He passes the horse now that originally started running. He's gone. And it's just me in the cliff.

[Stugats]

Is anyone on the trail yelling, yes, but they're. So you do something.

[Roy]

They're so far behind that all I can hear is the commotion of yelling.

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Roy]

And not, like, an actual task.

[Sid]

Your mom screaming.

[Roy]

My mom scream, everybody.

[Stugats]

Did you consider just bailing?

[Roy]

So this is what I'm thinking. I'm like, 13. I'm like, all right, I can see the cliff maybe 100 yards away.

[Stugats]

I don't know if this.

[Roy]

If this horse has a death wish and it's going to fling me a thousand feet to my death. So I have to be like, all right, I might have to jump off this thing. But we're going, like, 30 miles. We are flying. And at a certain point, I'm like, all right, I can't do that. That's crazy, because all it is is, like, shards of glass and rock and whatever. And I'm like, I'm going to shards of glass.

[Sid]

Yeah. Because people like you've added that to the story. I feel like there wasn't shards of glass. Shards of glass just around in the Dominican.

[Stugats]

Can you lie?

[Roy]

No, because listen, listen.

[Stugats]

Why?

[Sid]

I believe the rocks part.

[Roy]

There was. Listen, there was trash inside the mangroves because I guess locals and stuff, they

[Dave]

drank and they throw the bottles.

[Roy]

Exactly right. Thank you. I'm telling you, there were shards of glass. I remember looking down There said, Chris,

[Dave]

you throw a bottle of glass.

[Sid]

Bottles, snakes, like shards.

[Roy]

But I would be lying if I said snakes. I'm telling the truth, that they're shards of glass.

[Sid]

Go on.

[Roy]

The reason why we finally slowed down and I didn't get flung to my death is because of the trash. So the horse starts realizing, oh, wait a second, there's something I can eat here in this trash. So he starts slowing down, and I find we're like, maybe a good 65 yards from the cliff where I would have, you know, been flung off. So we start getting into the mangroves, and I'm getting, like, hit by the mangroves.

[Sid]

I'm like, ah, ah.

[Roy]

And the horse starts eating stuff in the thing. Come to find out, his name was El Diablo, which means the devil.

[Dan LeBatard]

Perfect. So did you have reins to pull?

[Roy]

Yo, I had reins, Greg. I was pulling them.

[Sid]

Okay.

[Roy]

I was pulling them.

[Sid]

He.

[Roy]

He was fighting through Diablo.

[Sid]

Listen to Greg. He's looking for a new purchase.

[Greg Cody]

This.

[Roy]

I don't know if this horse is still around. He was probably a long time ago.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, he's probably a little agent.

[Roy]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Greatest birthday party in the history of my life was Mo Dam. My mother, as I was a big lone Ranger guy growing up. And when I was five, we. She got a horse. I don't know how she did it in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Got a horse to come over to the house with a trainer. The horse didn't just show up.

[Stugats]

Oh. Maybe she just convinced the horse and

[Sid]

had a human handler. A human handler brought a horse to the house. And me and my pals, we got to do a horse ride around the house. It was the greatest. It was the greatest. It's all been downhill ever since.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, horses are great.

[Roy]

I don't trust them. Don't.

[Dan LeBatard]

So you shouldn't trust them. But they're wonderful animals.

[Greg Cody]

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[Dan LeBatard]

I want to address Tony and all men who would wear that shirt in public.

[Stugats]

Stugats don't do it. This is the Don lebatar show with the stugats. So I did a poor job yesterday. I felt bad about this because. Okay, you got in your jokes. You good?

[Greg Cody]

All right.

[Stugats]

So I did a poor job yesterday because Greg was in with us yesterday. He's in with us on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. And I did not ask, like everybody knows. I went to Vegas two weekends ago. I think we asked me how my trip was and no one asked Greg how his trip was to Vegas this past. You were in Vegas this past weekend?

[Dan LeBatard]

I was. We were there at the Sphere, stayed at the Venetian, walked over to the Sphere, saw the eagles and.

[Stugats]

Because you weren't sure who you were going to see at the Sphere originally,

[Dan LeBatard]

I, I was not positive. Yeah. Nor did I know where we were staying. Love the Venetian right up the street.

[Stugats]

Venetian's great.

[Dan LeBatard]

From Harrah's. We walked to Harrah's and I saw Big Elvis. He said, you guys know Big Elvis?

[Stugats]

No. What is that?

[Dan LeBatard]

He's like a £450 Elvis impersonator who has a residency at.

[Sid]

At Harrah's and he sits and performs.

[Greg Cody]

That's where Dan is right now.

[Dan LeBatard]

I was slow catching up to that. Well done, Jeremy.

[Ad Voice]

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[Greg Cody]

Thank you.

[Dan LeBatard]

And no, we had Big Elvis on our podcast a couple of years ago. So I went up to him reintroduced myself.

[Greg Cody]

He did not remember you.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, he did. He claimed he did. Oh, there he is. Hey, how you doing? Big.

[Sid]

What are you talking to a photo?

[Dan LeBatard]

I know. I literally am.

[Dave]

Sometimes you got to do that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Vegas was great. I had heard Dan consistently saying lately that Vegas is going downhill.

[Stugats]

I thought there it was well enough attended when I was there.

[Dan LeBatard]

I did too. Yeah, I did too. I mean, there were lines at every restaurant. It was crazy, crazy popular, crazy crowded.

[Sid]

Your first sphere experience, correct?

[Dan LeBatard]

It was.

[Stugats]

And how is that?

[Dan LeBatard]

It changed my whole attitude about the sphere.

[Sid]

Because you poo pooed it on the front end. You're like doing too much. Don't need all the bells and whistles.

[Dan LeBatard]

I thought it would be very distracting. Like I'm there to listen to the Eagles. One of my favorite.

[Stugats]

Now where were you sitting? Because in the sphere, it's not. I think it's not like a given that you want to sit all the way up front. I think there's something to wanting to sit higher up.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, we were. I don't know the Sphere well enough to know what everything's called, but we were like on a mezzanine level.

[Sid]

200 level is probably where you were.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, that's probably where.

[Ad Voice]

But.

[Dan LeBatard]

But we were overlooking the stage. They were really good seats and. But the presentation that they do is almost ineffably astounding because it's. It's probably all AI, but you see the entire 180 degrees and they start off with. It's like a hotel California scene where you see all these sites from California, the Hollywood sign and the oceans over here, and it's just astoundingly real.

[Stugats]

You seem to be very moved by this experience.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, I was. Because it doesn't affect the music. It doesn't affect your ability.

[Sid]

It enhances.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, it doesn't affect your ability to appreciate the sound.

[Sid]

What drugs were you on? I was just going to ask. Tripping. What were you doing?

[Dan LeBatard]

I felt like I was like. That was the experience. But it was wonderful.

[Roy]

Just 14 Miller Lights.

[Dan LeBatard]

It wasn't that many.

[Sid]

No, a couple of things. First of all, this is snobby. And it's unclear whether or not this is the case. Is it Eagles or the Eagles?

[Greg Cody]

Because Talking Heads.

[Sid]

Talking Heads is properly talk, not the Talking Heads. And there are a lot of people who will advocate.

[Stugats]

It's a good question.

[Sid]

It's just Eagles, right?

[Stugats]

Cause like Foo Fighters is Foo Fighters. Not the Foo Fighters. It's Foo Fighters.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. And it's Eagles.

[Sid]

I see.

[Stugats]

Oh, really? No, the.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's Eagles.

[Sid]

I think that's correct. The Beatles, though.

[Dave]

Dave, Dave, you dropped the. The. It's a lot cleaner.

[Sid]

I hear you, right, that you want to. Yeah. You want to grease the skids a little bit. But the other thing is with the Eagles or Eagles, that it's funny that you as a Floridian dig them, because I have said before, there are a lot of people who don't love Eagle. Eagles or the Eagles. Now it's in my head now. It's ruining the conversation.

[Stugats]

You think it's just Eagles, but Eagles

[Sid]

or the Eagles I consider to be the ultimate. You know how we have system QBs. They only thrive in certain circumstances. Bands only work for my ears in certain circumstances. And the Eagles are, for me, the ultimate system band. I don't. I didn't love the Eagles growing up in Pittsburgh or going to college or anything, but when you're driving at sunset on the 405, when you're driving on PCH and you're driving down and the sun is setting over the Pacific and you put on Take it to the Limit, yeah. It's the optimal song you could be playing in that environment. And they are therefore the greatest system band. But you dug them here while looking out at the Atlantic, eh?

[Dan LeBatard]

I did, yeah. I think they're a national band for me. You know, two generations ago, three generations ago, it was. The Beach Boys were always considered the. The American band.

[Sid]

That's a great conversation, too, because I think REM has now overtaken both. But I'm sorry, didn't mean.

[Stugats]

Really?

[Dan LeBatard]

Atlanta Zone. No, they're not Atlanta. Where are they from? Athens. I think they're a niche band. I like R.E.M.

[Sid]

so Eagles is your number one greatest American band of all. Like, you went to the Eagles mainly because mom wanted to go.

[Ad Voice]

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[Dan LeBatard]

She's a bigger fan than. Well, I think.

[Sid]

Go ahead, Roy.

[Dan LeBatard]

Who do you like, Roy? Earth, Wind and Fire. What do you got?

[Roy]

Oh, yeah.

[Ad Voice]

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[Stugats]

Dave in the gang. I think if the Eagles were Greg's favorite band, he would have known for sure that's who they were going to Vegas to see.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, here's the thing. We've seen the Eagles before because your wife.

[Sid]

I think you're just latching on to Mom's fandom for the Eagles right now.

[Dan LeBatard]

Does she like the Eagles more than me? If we're gonna, like, have a weight.

[Sid]

You didn't know you were going to

[Greg Cody]

see them in Vegas?

[Dan LeBatard]

I wasn't sure it'd be like, if.

[Stugats]

When I'm going with my son up to Boston to go see Pearl Jams, like, who are you going to? I think we're going to see Pearl Jam.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, but. But you have blinder or equine blinders on when it comes to Pearl Jam.

[Stugats]

I know. They're my favorite.

[Dan LeBatard]

I like a lot of different groups and types of music.

[Stugats]

Right.

[Greg Cody]

We need to get younger, say, Drew Ski.

[Stugats]

So I want to bring something up that I saw yesterday that I. I hope we can start giving more attention to. And this is just a Jumping off points when we're talking about local athletes who are beloved here. Like, Dave brought up yesterday when we talked, like, what position group is the best down here, you know? And soccer forward. We talk about Marino, obviously, and Dwyane Wade. But I'm gonna tell you something. We better start having a conversation about Alexander Barkov. All right, you see Alexander Barkov yesterday. He's been. He's been very involved for years now. I mean, what's he been on the team, by the way? For 13 years?

[Dan LeBatard]

Like nine or 10. Nine or 10, I think.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

I thought he was drafting, like, 13. Maybe. Maybe you're right. He's been down here forever. It's the only team he's played for and for a very long time. He is extremely generous and charitable with his time with the Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital, which, by the way, like, it takes a special kind of dude, I think, a special kind of person, period. But when you're an athlete and you're devoting your time to going and spending time with sick kids, okay, it's a. That is a special type of person.

[Dave]

And when you say sick kids, are they nice with it, or are you talking about sick, like, ill?

[Stugats]

I'm talking about ill.

[Dave]

Okay, Ill. Do you mean, like, ill, like in the 80s, yo, that kid is like. Or do you mean, like.

[Stugats]

I mean, he is in a very unfortunate circumstance. Got it.

[Dave]

Okay.

[Stugats]

It takes a really special type of dude, all right, to devote their free time to being around and trying to make a great day for sick children. And he spends a lot of time at that. I mean, the place that he took the Stanley cup was to the Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital. And yesterday they unveiled that he made a. They didn't give the exact number, but a seven plus figure, digit, figure donation that he personally made to the. The hospital yesterday. And they named, like, like, an area, like a wing in the hospital they named after him. He's crying up there at the honor that he's received. And this is a guy who shows zero emotion.

[Greg Cody]

All right.

[Stugats]

It's part of what makes him so great.

[Sid]

I believe he says. And we don't have the video, but he says in it, I don't think I've ever cried. Yeah. This is the first time I've cried.

[Stugats]

Yeah. And I just. I. I hope. And granted, the Panthers winning the Stanley cup the last couple years plays a major part, and that's great. But I hope that we overall start to really acknowledge this person for how great he is and what he does in this community, and yesterday was a really good time to bring that up.

[Greg Cody]

He's a kind guy, and he spends genuine time with those kids. One of my campers at Camp Fiesta, which is that summer camp for children with cancer that I'm a part of. Kaden, he's a patient at Joe DiMaggio Children's Hospital, and he was one of the kids who last year actually gave Barkov, like, an award that they had created for him. And the way Kaden talks about Alexander Barkov is as if they are truly friends, because that is the amount of time that Barkov spends tremendous at that hospital. And this is just one of dozens of kids who he has spent that type of time with. He's a really special human being for being around and present the way that he is. It's one thing to donate your time. It's one thing to donate your money. It's another thing to do both.

[Sid]

Well, listen, I didn't know you were doing that, Tashay, so you also deserve credit for that, because I say it all the time. We talk about courage and bravery and all those sorts of things where. When it comes to sports and obviously military action and beyond, I mean, the balls to do that. I mean, people, you know, I'm, as I've made clear, a Steelers fan, and people are very down on Russell Wilson a couple of years ago, and I was, too, from a football perspective. But you will never hear me say a bad word about what a strange guy he is. And his life. His life arc is strange, man. He every faithfully goes to children's hospitals. Even after the Malcolm Butler game, which, you know, professionally was a down moment for him, he made his regular appointed visit to the Children's hospital in Seattle. J.J. watt does that. Charlie Batch does that. Guys who do that, man, that is courage to go. And, Tashay, you deserve a shout out, too, because if you can. Look, if you can go and with those kids, what they go through and to boost their spirits is. Is the greatest balls you could have.

[Greg Cody]

Now my family is that part of

[Sid]

that turn of race. Greatest balls you can have.

[Greg Cody]

My family's been a part of that for a long time. So I'm really just like a Nepo hero. I was born into it.

[Stugats]

We take back some of the questions.

[Sid]

You work hard.

[Dave]

It's like the Incredibles.

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[Stugats]

Don LeBatard Quiet man.

[Sid]

Yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know, I'm a married man. I don't cheat on my wife. Despite that gratuitous line in back in my stugats. I wish you were here. My wife, I really miss her. No, I don't. That's the thing about being married, you know, you're not allowed to say, I don't miss my wife. I've been gone two days. I haven't been gone long enough to miss my wife. I'm sorry. I call her. I'm gonna call with her for 30 seconds. You know, what am I. Hello? All right. All right, we'll see ya. All right. And then, you know, I'm gonna see her in two days. I was jumping Charlie. Good.

[Stugats]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. Barkov's the real deal is the point that I'm trying to get to. And if hockey here meant to all of us all these years, what it does, let's say to people in Pittsburgh, Alexander Barkov would be the tops of the tops.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know, 100%. I totally agree with that. Because right now, again, doing the Mount Rushmore thing, I think it's always going to be Wade Marino as a starting point.

[Stugats]

Well, and then we need to have a conversation about Barkov.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, they're baked in. Sort of.

[Sid]

That's great. Yeah. He should be the face of the Panthers by athletic deed, too.

[Dan LeBatard]

Especially now. It's not a niche sport anymore. When you win two Stanley Cups in a row and you're selling out every arena, it's not a niche sport. It has arrived. Hockey has fully. I don't care what Sid said yesterday, making fun of South Florida as not a hockey town. And so you're right. I agree with you. I think Barkov deserves to be elevated to that echelon. Not just for the off field stuff you mentioned, but partly because of that. And on the ice. We've seen this year the downfall of the Panthers, which I think is totally related to Barkov not playing.

[Sid]

And the goalie being terrible.

[Dan LeBatard]

That too.

[Sid]

And the reality in the 21st century of the number of games you play. And it's take it to the limit once again style of play in all the major sports.

[Greg Cody]

Look, take it easy with the Eagles references. Well.

[Sid]

But.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well put that.

[Sid]

You see, I missed that one.

[Stugats]

Push it to the limits better than take it Easy.

[Dave]

Push it to the Limit is a way better song.

[Stugats]

Much better.

[Sid]

Push it to the limit.

[Stugats]

What movie you think about when you hear that?

[Sid]

Should we put that on the poll? What song Better to go down Pch those two songs.

[Dave]

Absolutely. But what movie? Forget about what. What scene.

[Stugats]

Oh, what? When they're. They're making the money, they're making moves.

[Dan LeBatard]

You got the duffel bag.

[Roy]

The duffel bags inside the van.

[Dave]

Starts with the money counter.

[Stugats]

Making moves.

[Dave]

What is that? I don't even know what this Take it to the Limit song you're speaking.

[Stugats]

That's what I'm saying.

[Sid]

It's strange to me. I never has occurred to me until literally the last 90 seconds. Miami, which feels to me like a storied American city. And obviously it is. It's funny to me that the Dolphins are by far and away the most tenured team in this town. Yeah, it's weird. Everything else is 15 minutes ago.

[Stugats]

Yeah, I mean my. A good portion of my childhood we only had one professional.

[Sid]

That was really strange. Has there been a major city that went with. I mean even just one team and they went with the Dolphins? I should know. The 69, they come around 66. 66.

[Dave]

Dave, here's the deal. This is the common misnomer that Miami is a major city. It's really not. It's like the growth physically and population wise is pretty recent. But I remember even when LeBron came down here and everyone's like these big markets are getting on technically in the NBA scheme of things, 30 teams, Miami was below the top 15. They were a small market. It's just. It's a really cool place.

[Sid]

But market. Yeah, I always go with market over population and within the city limits. But the market of Miami is gotta be top eight or number 13.

[Stugats]

13, 13, really.

[Dave]

And again, that's a lot of that is recency. A lot of that is recency. Traditionally, historically it was not a big market. It was not looked at as a market that can support a lot of professional sports.

[Sid]

We also don't talk nearly enough as a football obsessed society about the Dolphins. I know some people are touchy about that and say it's embarrassing what the state of the Dolphins has been for many decades now. It' not a national conversation. They are very much now like the Kansas City Chiefs eight or so years ago, which, you know, they inhabit a weird. They inhabit that weird space. Like it's easy to make fun of the Browns who never do anything. But the Chiefs for a long time is like imagine being in. Well, I don't have to have you guys imagine that you're Dolphins fans.

[Stugats]

I used to always tell us more about the Dolphins.

[Sid]

Imagine you're.

[Roy]

You're.

[Sid]

You're one of the most storied franchises in pro football, our most popular sport, and people hold you up is like, wow, the Chiefs were. Were great for a long. The Dolphins, man, they're a tent pole franchise. They haven't done nothing for this millennium. No, we can imagine that.

[Stugats]

You guys hear that.

[Dan LeBatard]

We live it.

[Stugats]

If I think real hard, I can imagine it.

[Dave]

I hear the foot. Is that. Is that Dan Levitard running in here? They're like, I gotta talk about this. How they haven't been relevant in 25 years.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. A quarter of a century since the last playoff win.

[Sid]

I mean, are they the best but for real? I guess I'm getting hyperbolic to try to make a point, but are the Dolphins the team that have that. That we sort of in our brains considered like.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, yeah, though.

[Sid]

I mean, I can't. They're. They're not a punchline team. Like, kind of are after the last.

[Stugats]

They are. They are. We're aware.

[Dave]

I'll give you five words. We are the New York Knicks.

[Sid]

Okay. I feel fair. Fair.

[Dave]

That's a team that's like. Hasn't had success. Is that six words?

[Sid]

Six.

[Roy]

They were in the Easter Conference finals last year. That's like the. That's like the Dolphins going to the AFC Championship game and then losing.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right. Like.

[Roy]

Like they haven't done that, I guess.

[Sid]

Well, you know, the other one that I would volunteer is they're not a punchline team, but the Niners, they inhabit. What I'm describing here, which is if you are 40 or younger, people talk about the Niners as one of the most. You didn't experience that viscerally.

[Roy]

You.

[Sid]

You know about it from the elders in your community.

[Ad Voice]

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[Sid]

But. But you don't know what it feels like to.

[Stugats]

Actually, I like the idea of area where there's just one 49ers elders who are hanging out together.

[Sid]

It's Joe Montana. Yeah. Just sitting there in a throne, much like Zaslo in his backwards hat. Yeah. That the Niners are kind of that now too. That if they. But they. There's a distinction to be made between them and the Dolphins because the Niners go to Super Bowls. But then they cause you great pain. If you're a Niners guy.

[Greg Cody]

Sure.

[Roy]

But you have playoff wins.

[Sid]

Well, that's a philosophical debate. Do you like getting to the big spot, Zaz?

[Roy]

Would you rather get to Super Bowls and NFC Championship games

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[Stugats]

Because I. I'm at a point in my life and I think I've been pretty clear about this. I'm at a point in my life where it isn't just about winning the championships anymore. I want the moments.

[Sid]

The moment destination.

[Stugats]

It's the moments that lead up to. It's why, like the Miami Heat when they lost the finals in 2023 to Denver. Holy shit, Did I enjoy that playoff run. There were so many amazing moments, particularly spearheaded by Jimmy Butler. I look back really fondly at that. I want the moments. The moments to me are just as good as winning the championship. And the Dolphins. I haven't had a moment with the Dolphins since the Lamar Smith game. We're going back 26 years.

[Sid]

Dolphins are Nebraska. Football used to mean something now.

[Stugats]

Joke.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think that that's a good one. I think if you're a Dolphin fan, you had a moment a few years ago when they're the best offense in the league and they're scoring 70 points against Denver. That was really exciting. That's supposed to last.

[Sid]

Oh, my God. That's supposed to last longer.

[Stugats]

A regular season feeling. That's not good enough.

[Greg Cody]

That's best moment Dolphins football of my lifetime.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Greg Cody]

Like I was born in 95 and.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right.

[Greg Cody]

The Wildcat. That era is the second best Dolphins football I've ever witnessed. It's been all mediocrity. The way you guys have complained about, like two seasons of the Heat being in mediocrity and.

[Sid]

Oh, I'm not going to want to watch.

[Stugats]

I'm not going to do this a

[Sid]

little more than two seasons, buddy.

[Greg Cody]

I just like two seasons playing and out. We're in the finals the year before.

[Sid]

If I could just say very quickly, you guys had some really nice moments this past season with the Canes. I. You came up a little.

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Sid]

And I mean, you should.

[Stugats]

Amazing.

[Sid]

You shouldn't hang your head. I mean, I know that the opportunity

[Stugats]

for you to do it.

[Greg Cody]

I know what he's doing.

[Roy]

He's doing the bullshit right now.

[Sid]

Championship. And that was a great moment. But I want to take a moment to pour one out for the Canes fans.

[Roy]

First off. First. Guys, don't do that.

[Sid]

Look at me. Keep your chin up.

[Roy]

Look at me right now. Look at me. You're not looking at me. Look at me right now. I'm going to take what you did.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Roy]

Which was the bullshit. And we're going to flip it into the right stuff. Because when you talk about what the Canes were Doing the. Going to Texas A and M in the middle of a windst. Ending it with an interception. Okay. Bryce Fitzgerald ending the season for Texas A M. That was a huge moment. Ohio State.

[Sid]

You just did the Fernando Mendoza dive into the. No, I didn't.

[Roy]

I did the. I did the Price.

[Sid]

No, I didn't.

[Roy]

I did the Fitzgerald pick six against Ohio State.

[Stugats]

That was a moment.

[Roy]

On New Year's Eve, of all things.

[Stugats]

Carson Beck running into the end with his legs. That was a moment like, I got the moments from the Canes. Yes. Winning the championship would have been amazing, but I. I got the moments. So to answer your question, would I take the heartbreak of the Dolphins losing in the AFC Championship Game or in the Super Bowl? Yes. Because I'm likely still gathering the moments leading up to that point.

[Dave]

Yeah. Well, also in the moment, you don't know. It's not like you have divine foresight of what's going to happen. Well, no, but.

[Stugats]

But I do. I am acknowledging in that moment, holy shit, that was unbelievable. And then. And then the entire next day I'm thinking about how I felt and I can't watch enough highlights of Carson Beck

[Dave]

running into the end. The next day you're like, oh, my God, I can't believe we lost that. But in the moment you thought you believed, oh, my God, it's actually going to happen in a way that right now you don't even have that feeling. You'd rather have that feeling and have the heartbreak associated with it.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Than to be bereft of any feeling whatsoever.

[Roy]

The Keonta Scott interception.

[Stugats]

Amazing.

[Greg Cody]

Will live.

[Roy]

Greg, you tell me, Is that a 25 year highlight? We're 25 years from. We're like. You remember that New Year's Eve?

[Stugats]

I think so.

[Roy]

Like Keonta Scott intercepting the ball, going the other way, reading the entire situation, beating Ohio State, like doing all the things that the Canes did in that run was something I'll never forget.

[Greg Cody]

The only problem with that is that that is going to. If it doesn't continue on for the next 25 years with any other moments that's going to be looked at by future generations. Sitting here doing shows like this, the way that I look at even the Marino years, you're absolutely.

[Sid]

You guys are all right about celebrating these moments. That if. If you set the expectation as a fan that my team wins the title or it's a bust of a season, you're going to be a pretty miserable human being going through life. But then again, you touch on expectation and why it hurts extra worse is if you have Dan Marino, if you have a generational guy, then you set expectations at a different level. And when you don't meet those, that's when it's crushing. The Dolphins haven't even had a reason to be hopeful. No.

[Roy]

You know what else I'll never forget Roy saying that Carson Beckstone. Throw the interception on my deathbed. I'll remember that for the rest of my life. For the rest of my life, I'll remember that.

[Sid]

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[Sid]

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