Local Hour: Herald Emeritus

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Local Hour: Herald Emeritus

Date: October 20, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts/Contributors: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Mike Ryan, Greg Cody, Jonathan Zaslow, Billy Gil

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Episode Overview

This Local Hour episode zeroes in on the current state of Miami sports, with deep dives into the turmoil surrounding the Miami Dolphins, the University of Miami Hurricanes’ recent struggles, and a meta-discussion about local sports media, leadership, and accountability. The cast debates whether the Dolphins’ or Hurricanes’ woes should lead the hour, unpacks the saga of quarterback Tua Tagovailoa, and playfully roasts Greg Cody for his chronic tardiness and “delayed” sports takes. Along the way, they riff on the cyclical pain of Miami fandom, the futility of seeking a franchise quarterback, and the dubious honorific of “Herald emeritus.”

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. What’s Wrong with the Dolphins?

[01:59–07:56]

• Dolphins Debacle: The crew expresses collective exasperation at the Dolphins’ latest collapse against the Browns, focusing especially on head coach Mike McDaniel (“might be fired today”—Zaslow at 02:57) and the performance of quarterback Tua Tagovailoa.
• Historical Perspective: The show bemoans 20+ years of failed quarterback searches, referencing names like Tannehill and Jay Fiedler and observing that this “rinse repeat” pattern is now Miami’s professional football legacy.
• On McDaniel:
  • “At any moment Mike McDaniel’s going to be fired today.”—Dan (02:57)
• On Tua’s Contract:
  • “Now it’s not just figuring out if you have a good quarterback. It’s figuring out how to manage having the worst contract in football.”—Dan (03:55)
  • Zaslow: “Deshaun Watson’s is the worst in football.” (04:06)

2. The Tua Tagovailoa Quandary

[07:56–16:29]

• Leadership Failings: After singing Tua’s praises for leadership last year, the group is now deeply concerned about his ability and outlook, both on the field and at the microphone.
• Cringeworthy Soundbite: Dan, Zas, and Mike Ryan dissect a rambling postgame Tua quote:
  • “All right, first of all, what the hell is he saying?” —Dan (09:40)
  • “It’s rambling nonsense. What are you talking about?” —Mike Ryan (09:49)
• Accountability or Overcorrection? The panel debates whether Tua is showing real accountability or overcompensating after his leadership was questioned in previous weeks.
  • “This is just more loser talk from a guy… you’re never gonna figure it out.”—Mike Ryan (12:53)
  • “He’s not that guy anymore.”—Mike Ryan (13:40)
• Quarterback Carousel: The fellas compare Tua’s trajectory to other QBs (Carson Wentz, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Daniel Jones), framing it as another cautionary NFL tale.
  • “The league figures some guys out… there’s plenty of guys that get to that second contract. League figures you out.”—Mike Ryan (13:50)

3. Miami Sports Standards and Market Identity

[04:27–05:22, 16:16–18:46]

• What's the Real "Standard" in Miami? Dan argues that the University of Miami Hurricanes are the city’s true historic standard-bearer, even as the market obsesses over the Dolphins.
  • “What has better represented excellence in this market is the University of Miami.”—Dan (04:27)
• Local Sports Radio Rituals: Zaslow invokes old sports radio traditions (“You always start with the Dolphins”), only for Dan to counter that fans should focus more on the Hurricanes.
• Perpetual Frustration: The panel agrees that Miami's sports anguish is, perversely, part of the fan identity.

4. Greg Cody: Miami Herald Columnist vs. Tardiness Court

[26:27–33:43]

• Greg's Chronic Tardiness: A running gag takes center stage as the cast roast Greg Cody for showing up late and being “months late” to sports takes—especially his reticence on calling for McDaniel’s firing.
  • “Have you adjusted your morning schedule at all since my… suggestion to leave a little bit earlier?”—Dan (27:26)
  • “I leave plenty early enough.”—Greg (27:28)
• Who Is the Miami Herald Columnist (Emeritus)?
  • Zaslow: “Am I still a Miami Herald columnist?” (30:02)
  • Greg: “If you write once every five years, three years, you’re not a writer.”—Greg (33:00)
  • Ruling: “My ruling. Yes, he is [Herald columnist]. With prejudice.”—Dan (33:14)
• Emeritus Debate:
  • “To be Herald emeritus do you have to be dead?”—Zaslow (32:40)
  • “Emeritus is alive. You’re always the guy, even though you’re not active.”—Dan (32:51)

5. Quarterback Graveyard: Miami's Failing Search

[19:35–21:33, 39:02–41:16]

• Who Was Miami’s Best Post-Marino QB?
  • “The best quarterback this town has had post-Marino is Chad Pennington.”—Dan (19:35)
• The Cycle of Hope and Failure: Miami’s endless cycle of investing in QBs who flash, regress, and are replaced gets compared to league-wide examples.
• “You’re Not Special”: Mike Ryan runs through a list of QBs who once looked promising but fizzled (Derek Carr, Derek Anderson, Josh Freeman, Mitch Trubisky, etc.).
  • “You’re not a special little snowflake… you’re running into the same problems every franchise does when it tries to nail the franchise quarterback but falls short.”—Mike Ryan (20:38)

6. NFL Sunday Chaos and League-wide Parallels

[44:16–47:16]

• The Giants/Broncos Implosion: [44:16–46:18] They marvel at the rarity and absurdity of the Giants blowing a massive late lead, illustrating that NFL chaos isn’t unique to Miami.
  • “NFL teams had won 1602 consecutive games when leading by 18+ points late.”—Mike Ryan (45:16)
• Around the League: Quick notes on how other teams’ QB/leadership situations mirror Miami’s struggles, and rapid-fire Giants/Colts/Broncos discussion.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You cannot spend 20 years trying to figure out whether you have a good quarterback or not.” —Jonathan Zaslow (03:32)
• “I have never seen a quarterback throw himself under the bus the way that Tua did.” —Mike Ryan (08:50)
• “What do any of those words mean?” —Dan (09:47), after Tua’s rambling quote
• “Just because when losing comes, you’re not going to be able to lead, because this will bury everyone.” —Dan (18:46)
• “The best 25 years in the last 25 years after Marino, the best quarterback this town has is Chad Pennington.” —Jonathan Zaslow (19:38)
• “This is just more loser talk from a guy… you’re never gonna figure it out.” —Mike Ryan (12:53)
• “You are not a special little snowflake… you’re running into the same problems that every franchise does.” —Mike Ryan (20:38)
• “To be Herald emeritus, do you have to be dead? … Emeritus is alive. You’re always the guy, even though you’re not active.”—Zaslow/Dan (32:40–32:56)
• On Greg Cody’s lateness:
  • “If you believe I’m going to leave at a time to get to my work on time, you’re nuts.” —Greg Cody (43:19)
  • “Everyone knows I’m good at judging things.” —Dan (43:51)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Dolphins Frustration & Firing McDaniel ........................................ [01:59–07:56]
• Tua Tagovailoa Rambling Interview & Accountability ................ [07:56–16:29]
• Miami Sports Standards & Market Identity ............................... [04:27–05:22], [16:16–18:46]
• Greg Cody’s Tardiness & Herald Columnist Bit ........................ [26:27–33:43]
• Quarterback Graveyard: NFL Parallels ..................................... [19:35–21:33], [39:02–41:16]
• Giants/Broncos Meltdown & NFL Chaos ................................. [44:16–47:16]

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Flow, Tone, and Extras

• The chemistry of the crew shines, with banter seamlessly switching from serious sports talk to roasts and meta-humor.
• Miami’s sports existential crisis is both a subject of angst and comic relief, with everyone taking shots at each other to soften the pain of fandom.
• Tua’s leadership and articulation are dissected in detail, with the panel noting both his accountability and his lack of clarity (and the growing sense of hopelessness at QB).
• The Greg Cody lateness/columnist debate is a classic Le Batard Show meta-narrative, poking fun at the nature of opinions, employment, and city institution status.

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Conclusion

This episode embodies the essence of The Dan Le Batard Show, blending cathartic Miami sports therapy with meta-media commentary, irreverent humor, and the camaraderie of a crew that’s seen it all. For longtime Miami fans or anyone familiar with the show’s inside jokes, it’s a rich, relatable, and thoroughly entertaining listen—even if, as Greg Cody, you arrive late.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

Chris, I need some leadership help here because I feel a bit frayed. Okay. The local teams are falling apart. I can do an hour on each local team. And you've got noise around the local teams. That is unusual. Zas has bombed in with a travel story that I don't know that Mike Ryan told me is embargoed. Your father is late again. Again? You just got here four minutes ago, so you're in no position to lead him and lecture him about late. And we got big shoes to fill, and Jeremy's eager to fill him and we can't let him. And I want to talk about what happened with the University of Miami, because I'm guessing a whole lot of people were laughing all weekend, but also the Dolphins. Where would you start? Zaslo? Where Does Zaslo show 2.0 start today? As you have just mutual apocalypses for different reasons because of where the standards have fallen in this town in football.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dolphins. Because I think at any moment Mike McDaniel's going to be fired today. And so you want to talk about the Dolphins before that ends up coming across the news.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay, so you're saying that. But I don't like Friday to dictate where the standards are in this town because we got one bad football team and we've got one that wants to win the championship. And just because the other one played earlier, your running away from what you said last week when you said the standard is so high.

[Dan LeBatard]

I said loud.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You said real loud. The standard was so high on undefeated.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yep, that would be the expectation.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And you won't even start your show there today because you want to. You want to fire McDaniel. You want to fire another one of these coaches. We've had how many man, we've had this problem down here since Wanstead Greer. You cannot spend 20 years trying to figure out whether you have a good quarterback or not. You can't spend 20 franchise years with Tannehill in this trying to figure out whether you have Jackson D or not.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, and now it's not just figuring out if you have a good quarterback or not. It's figuring out how to manage having the worst contract in football. I mean, anyone want to?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, Deshaun Watson's is the worst in football.

[Mike Ryan]

It's the worst ever.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

But it's a bad contract. And Kim Bo Kamper is saying yesterday that that's the worst quarterback performance he's ever seen.

[Dan LeBatard]

I heard that too. That's a little much.

[Mike Ryan]

Scott Covington started a Monday Night Football game for the Rams like 20 years ago. It was pretty bad.

[Dan LeBatard]

Definitely to his worst.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Bo Kaeper has been covering this market for 50 years. You've got still those old voices, Jimmy Cefalo and Joe Rose, protecting sort of the covenant right back when the Dolphins mattered in the 70s, 80s and 90s. See, Zaslow is doing something. Zaslow is going into the bin, old time sports radio bin, saying, oh, you always start with the Dolphins. You always start with the Dolphins. And I am here to tell you that over the last 40 years, what is better represented excellence in this market. Is the University of Miami such that the standard is when they lose is a two touchdown favorite to Louisville. And even though they show you, yeah, that's a good team. Yeah, that's a good team. That's a playoff worthy team that lost at home when their quarterback throw throws four turnovers. I think Miami's college team is vastly more interesting than its professional one. We're just in rinse repeat on what this professional one does. Like this we blow out another management team.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, we're angrier right now with the Dolphins and the Hurricanes, even though one of them matters a lot more than the other.

[Mike Ryan]

It's Louisville.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You think that the starting point on today's show should be Miami, should be the University of Miami and bowl.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Zaslow is correct when he says Mike McDaniel might be fired during the show today because the Browns are terrible and the games in that sport are close. And you can't have Kim Bo Kamper outside the locker room saying that's the worst quarterback performance I've ever seen. When Cleveland has scored 17 points in exactly 17 points or fewer. Exactly 11 straight games. And now they're a juggernaut with their third round quarterback rookie who doesn't even have to throw the ball correctly. He can just hand it off because the Dolphins can't stop anybody.

[Mike Ryan]

You remember when Josh Freeman had that start for the Vikings on Monday Night Football? That's the worst quarterbacking performance I've ever seen.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Kim Bo Kamper has been protecting football in this market for 50 years. As though when he says emotionally, that's the worst quarterback performance I've ever seen. You last week are saying two is now unlikable after Chris Cody fell in love with him, gazed into his eyes and couldn't love more how the quarterback was talking. He sounds so confident. And now everything in leadership is broken. Like it's you. You cannot hang on to anything in leadership because the Flames have swallowed half a season in. They've swallowed any. Everyone that everyone on this team was paid, banked on Tyree, killed, gone waddles. Obviously not a number one. Like they're going to run. They're going to ruin a chan. He's going to get hurt here because of how they're using him. Because all they throw is passes to a chan because they've just shriveled up into something that's not even interesting anymore.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dan to a got out in front of a crowd of paying customers and yelled show me the money. After he signed a 200 million dollar deal. The team is like 10 and 14 since he did that. Their offense sucks. And, and this week Tua had an all time loser week. Yes, from the end of last game with that postseason postgame press conference where he talks about leadership, needs to be better and pointing the fingers at other guys and then he comes out and has the game. He had fumbles, pick sixes, interceptions in the end zone, getting benched. It was an all time loser week.

[Mike Ryan]

So let's say here with the two of conversation because I think we now know Greer McDaniel, they're not going to be part of this franchise going forward. So let's not have the redundant conversations we've had about them. You're paying the quarterback a lot of money. He has to figure in the plan somehow, some way. Even if those plans are how do we get out from under this contract. But now I think the sample is growing to a point where you realize the answer that we thought he would be. It's not the right answer. Tua's not the guy. And I would say that as bad as his week was under center, this guy over the last 10 days has had a disastrous week, a disastrous time behind the microphone. I have never seen a quarterback throw himself under the bus the way that Tua did. Not only in this clip is he going to highlight how bad his approach is to the game on the field. But, but he readily admits that he's not being a pro off the field.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, definitely not happy. Not proud of, of where I'm at with my play, with how I've, I've.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Gone about things this year.

[Dan LeBatard]

I know I got to be a.

[Billy Gil]

Lot better and I've, I've been better.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

For, for the Miami Dolphins years past.

[Billy Gil]

But this isn't years past. This is this year. Right. And just trying to maneuver everything and trying to, trying to, you know, build a collection of guys to kind of.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Bring along with me and I got.

[Billy Gil]

To be able to kind of be able to multitask, if that makes sense. Be able to do that and while doing that, kind of continue to continue to get the, whatever it was last year and the years prior for myself to get going again and get in that flow. Thank you.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, first of all, what the.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Hell is he saying?

[Mike Ryan]

More rambling stuff. More rambling stuff.

[Dan LeBatard]

What do any of those words mean?

[Mike Ryan]

No, I know people automatically want to go to the concussion stuff. Like let's, like that's just like a troubling clip because it's rambling nonsense. What are you Talking about doesn't sound.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Like okay, McDaniel and Tua when they get out in front of cameras. And I would not blame them if the intoxicants of the last two seasons were the greatest at offense. We've got it figured out. Everybody's going to get money in Miami. They're nine and two. And at the middle of that story is also the brain does keep getting hit and make and making us worry should they give him that money for health reasons? Never mind that, there's still the argument. Wait a minute, is he Brock Purdy? Is he a product of system or is he actually a good quarterback? We've done the architecture of this team. We know the bet that Greer made. We all fell in love with it at that watch party when they were 9 and 2 and then lost to Vrabel in Tennessee because oh look out, Vrabel's got Drake May now they're going to be running the division for A. McMahon just had a better quarterback percentage than Brady ever had because they found a quarterback there and a good organization protects that quarterback. Speaking of rambling, the dolphins have two ramblers in McDaniel and Tua and they're in front of the microphones and we want explanations for the losing and they have to say something and they're not good at say nothing. Just get up there and just keep saying nothing again and again. They say it inefficiently. Their offense is efficient, their words are not.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean I guess in a vacuum you like the accountability from the position, right? But you're also concerned as to wait, they're paying you a lot of money. What is it about your off field prep that you don't like? What is what? You know that there are things that you should be doing to be better but you're not doing it.

[Dan LeBatard]

And he didn't realize it apparently last week. Cuz last week it was everyone else's fault, not his.

[Billy Gil]

It is a weird thing to bring up out the blue you could say hey we can be better, whatever. But to specifically call out his off field prep in that way, in that manner. That's the difference Mike, between accountability and Wait a second, what the hell's happening here? Right? That's the line. Accountability is like I need to be better. What the hell's happening here is like yeah man, I don't know what I've been doing. What have you been doing now?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I need to know the thing that I thought was just happening there. Hold on a second.

[Dan LeBatard]

Stinks.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay, All I thought was happening there Is, oh, now he's going to crucify himself because he was bad leader last week. Everyone turned on him last week. McDaniel said out loud, this is a distraction. This isn't leadership. So now I'm going to go out there and I'm going to crucify myself after a bad game. He's the first three interception quarterback the Dolphins have had in consecutive games since Marino. He's supposed to be maximum accurate. He looked panicked yesterday like that. And look, I'd be panicked too if Miles Garrett was chasing me and I didn't have an offensive line. Like, they can't run the ball. They're. They're terrible. They can't stop the run. Every. Every running back in the league will run for. For 100 yards against them.

[Mike Ryan]

I like where you're going. That. What we saw from TUA just then is an overcorrection from. From last week.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Wasn't that obvious?

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know. I don't. I. I don't. He confuses me every time he talks.

[Greg Cody]

I don't.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I don't.

[Mike Ryan]

And it's been. This isn't a concussion thing. I don't want to go there. He's not a super captivating speaker. Like, he doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but this. Everybody after a loss like that wants a Tim Tebow. No one's going to try harder than me speech. And this is just more loser talk from a guy when he speaks. You're like, oh, you're never gonna figure it out. Yeah, I don't.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I don't.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't trust you to figure it out.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

But. Okay, and I get that. But you know why he's never gonna figure it out? Cause they just lost 31 to 6 to the terrible Cleveland Browns because he's.

[Mike Ryan]

Not a good football player.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay, but. Because okay, but nobody would be under these circumstances.

[Mike Ryan]

What are the circumstances? He's got talent. What do you mean nobody would be. I see plenty of quarterbacks play.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, hold on.

[Billy Gil]

I have a question. You said he's not a good football player. Then what was three years ago?

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, he's not that guy anymore.

[Mike Ryan]

He's not that guy.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He's not that guy because three years ago. But three years, guys, three years ago, they were the number one offense and passing offense in the league.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not always concussions. It's not. Carson Wentz got some injuries, but he just like the league figured you out. Like, there's plenty of guys that have that get to that second contract. League figures you out.

[Dan LeBatard]

Like, I don't think that I. I've been a tour guy since day one. Before this season. Like the Indianapolis game that opened this year to me, I fingered as the moment that I think all of us realize this is not the guy.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

But.

[Dan LeBatard]

But nonetheless, I've been a tour guy every season going up to this year. And I don't think that I was wrong about him in the past. That guy was a good quarterback. He's not the guy because for whatever reason, he's regressed. This quarterback is.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

Not your fault, Dan.

[Billy Gil]

You love this.

[Mike Ryan]

He was right in the moment.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

This is the Stephen A. Smith. This. What Zaz is doing right now is. I was right.

[Mike Ryan]

I feel right twice.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I feel like I'm concussed by the last three years of our TUA coverage that includes Mike being able to diagnose the gradation of degrees in the brain chemistry between why Wentz can do it and to a can't. Okay. I'm not scientist enough to know whether to is more brain injured than everyone else in the league. The quarterback that presently plays for the Miami Dolphins resembles in no way the quarterback that was the number one passer in that sport three years ago.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not. It's unfair to just. Just because I was able to come up with Wentz's name. Kyler Murray looked a lot different his rookie season. The league figures some guys out. Hell, Daniel Jones has come out the other side. He had to adjust to it. In fact, Baker Mayfield, too. The league is full of guys that at certain points were like, this guy's done as a starting quarterback. He can probably pull himself out of it. But there's a lot of guys that end up being Blake Bortles that don't.

[Billy Gil]

But doesn't that prove my point that it's like. I don't know if we could say he's not a good football player. He is a good football player. Rather, the surrounding context of what he's playing under. Right? Is it him or is it Mike McDaniel, who we haven't mentioned yet, and his postgame presser because he sounds like he's had concussions.

[Dan LeBatard]

I want to apologize to Brian Flores. Why? I'm sorry, What?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You were right about tua.

[Dan LeBatard]

You see, you're doing what he said about two a couple years ago.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He was right.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I don't agree with that. People. People want to take that track, that Flores was right about tua. You're not right about tua. If the team invests a number five overall pick in the quarterback, whoever it is, and you don't even give him a chance. That's where Flores is wrong. You got to at least give him a chance. So Flores was not right? No, I don't agree with that.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, let's bring it back to Mike McDaniel, because this is like the third straight week we're all sitting by our phones waiting for the Schefter notification that probably won't come.

[Dan LeBatard]

You think it'll be Schefter?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, it might be plus 500.

[Dan LeBatard]

Why don't you let it play out, guys? It's bad right now. What do you want?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You want.

[Dan LeBatard]

You want him to win three in a row?

[Billy Gil]

No.

[Dan LeBatard]

At this point, let's lose. Oh, you don't want any change? No. Like, that's it. This season's done. Let him stay, Chris. Let's be as bad as we can be.

[Billy Gil]

Crispa, here's a fear. What if they win three in a row with him as coach?

[Dan LeBatard]

He's gone regardless.

[Mike Ryan]

Does this sound like a guy. Let's play the video. Does this sound like a guy that is going to rattle off a win streak?

[Dan LeBatard]

There's a lot of guys that will have an important work week because we're not.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I mean, if you are negatively affecting.

[Dan LeBatard]

The football team routinely, I don't have a choice but to, you know, assess a different player.

[Mike Ryan]

And.

[Dan LeBatard]

And I have to coach a lot better as well.

[Greg Cody]

So we need.

[Dan LeBatard]

We're going to find out who and what we're made of. That's him saying he's going to bench Tua, right?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That anyone's benchable. I just. I did the optics of this. From Mike McDaniel swaggering on the heat sideline in Miami Vice fashion gear to yesterday, looking like a wet rat, overwhelmed. Like just optically overwhelmed, looking at a play sheet that had no answers. Look at that face that had no. But you guys saw what I'm talking about, right? The Optic doves. He's the one coach in the league yesterday who is being beaten down by the weather and looks like he is, you know, a mop, a wet mop of defeat. Looking at a soaked play card that has no answers because he's losing 31 6. All the games in that league are close. Did you see what the Broncos and Giants did? Like all the games in that league are closed there. Yesterday's 1:00pm games, they. They say going into the witching hour and, huh, only two score games here, and everyone's surprised by it. And then it becomes, oh, there are one score games here. The Dolphins would have no answers. Their coaches sopping wet on the sidelines. Their quarterback has to come out afterward and just sort of say things because he's the leader so he doesn't make another fire worse than the last fire. Because neither one of these two guys figured out how to do a press conference that was just give them the cliches. Just because when losing comes, you're not going to be able to lead because this will bury everyone.

[Billy Gil]

Isn't it hilarious that we're basically asking for Dan Campbell? Like that's just say some cliches and act tough in this moment.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He was here. We ran him out of town because.

[Billy Gil]

He was two cliches.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He won four games and he became an interim coach who could lead somebody. And then that's what happened. We mocked Man Campbell. We always get to be right on these. Zaslow sitting here as if he's been right. We've been arguing about the TUA assessment for three years the way that we argued about the Tannehill assessment for seven years. No one' had a quarterback like no one here in this town who has thought in the last 25 years that have had a quarterback. They've not had a quarterback. Not Jay Cutler, not Cleo Lemon, not. Not Jay Feedler. It's been 20 years of. No, they don't have the primetime guy. That was Marino. They don't get to have that anymore. And then they don't win a playoff game for 25 years.

[Dan LeBatard]

That one year at Pennington was good. He was good. Pennington was good.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He was top five MVP voting. The best 25 years in the last 25 years after Marino, the best quarterback this town has as Chad Pennington. And the one year two ahead, the one year that wasn't a mirage.

[Billy Gil]

We'll always have that one year.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What was that like? Mike's sitting here saying, oh, and the league caught up. And I'm sitting here saying, I'm not scientific to know scientist enough to know whether his brain is the same as it was. But the offense surely isn't. They've gone from they were the best in the league and could throw on anybody. And now they get six points in Cleveland and it's a miracle last week that they scored 27 against the Chargers.

[Mike Ryan]

This is not abnormal. If you give me 10 minutes, take pen to paper over the last 20 years and give you a quarterback that had all year. And then most people decided that quarterback's not starting caliber in the NFL.

[Billy Gil]

Throw out some names like, let me.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Put pen to pen to paper.

[Mike Ryan]

It Just happens all the time.

[Dan LeBatard]

Daniel Jones had that, but now he's back again.

[Mike Ryan]

It happens all the time.

[Billy Gil]

You're not.

[Mike Ryan]

You are not a special little snowflake. You're not unique. You're running into the same problems that every franchise does when it tries a to nail the franchise quarterback but fall short.

[Billy Gil]

As a Giants fan, I could say Daniel Jones was never as good as Tua was that one year.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He got paid.

[Dan LeBatard]

He brought him to the playoffs.

[Billy Gil]

No, he got paid. Everyone was like, why are we paying this dude? Everyone was like, he was an okay quarterback as a giant. Like, what's happening this year?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

This is.

[Billy Gil]

This is shocking to me, but there was never a point where I felt about Daniel Jones the way I feel about Jackson.

[Mike Ryan]

Dark Jared Goff made it to a Super bowl and was basically thrown into a deal to make salaries work. And he was just going to hold it down. And they even drafted potential replacements to push Jared Goff. And then he figured it out.

[Billy Gil]

He went to a Super Bowl. But no one really felt that confident about him going to super. Like, they went to the super bowl because the team was great. Because what's my man, the running back.

[Mike Ryan]

Was incredible early, but remember the year before, he's out dueling Patrick Mahomes on Monday Night Football in the catcher versus mustard game.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Guys, there's so much that happened yesterday because I. If I said to you guys right now, hey, Stafford's my quarterback and I trade him back to the Lions. They're the league favorite, right? If I just. If I trade Stafford back to the Lions just like that. A player who left the Lions because the franchise made two of its previous best players quit. Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders. Matthew Stafford goes elsewhere, becomes the quarterback everyone now fears. No one wants to play that team in the playoffs because they're so precise.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

I'll purchase because I keep those things in the cart.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Billy Gil]

What?

[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

The cold right away, the ice coldness to it? Oh, just.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Dan LeBatard.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Billy, somebody has written in here. I need way more.

[Greg Cody]

I'm sorry.

[Dan LeBatard]

I just said in his headset. Haven't you been to all of them, too?

[Greg Cody]

It sounded like you were speaking aloud. My bad. Totally on me. That's 100 on me.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, stugats.

[Greg Cody]

But that goes without saying, right? That it couldn't happen.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, now he said it, didn't. He didn't say it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Again.

[Greg Cody]

My apologies, Greg.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, Greg, he apologized sincerely.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the Don lebatar show with the Stu guys.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

This is an interesting conversation. I'm be curious if you guys want to have it, because McDaniel and two are going to get swallowed. They're going to get swallowed by. Oh, this is what leadership requires, right? When you're one in five, if you're. If you're leading. Greg, do you know a lot of other programs in America, like first take? Have you ever seen someone walk in 25 minutes late to first take? Like just any other. Any other daily program that people watch?

[Greg Cody]

I don't monitor them. Sorry.

[Dan LeBatard]

He was being quiet.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It.

[Greg Cody]

I was. Thank you. I thought I was as.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Do you have any thoughts here on just Cody?

[Dan LeBatard]

You know, my thoughts. What was preventing you from leaving 20 minutes? You know, let's start here, actually, because I scolded you about this a couple of weeks ago. Have you adjusted your morning schedule at all since my, you know, suggestion to leave a little bit earlier?

[Greg Cody]

I leave plenty early enough.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, no, that was my question. I would say. Have you adjusted your schedule at all?

[Greg Cody]

No.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Do you think you're that important, though, like the local hour? A lot of people are listening. Like, we're a big podcast in Miami.

[Greg Cody]

I heard that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And a lot of people want your thoughts on. As the Dolphin columnist who is a month late to this Particular fire, by the way, because now Greg Cody. Now Greg Cody, a month late, is writing in his column from today's Miami Herald. I would not be surprised if the Miami Dolphins fired head coach Mike McDaniel very soon. And I would not argue that it was too soon. Right at one point. Right at one point late in the game. CBS announcer. This is a bad look for the Miami Dolphins. You think this was an avalanche of an aptitude failure of the worst kind? Something needs to change. It might be the head coach.

[Billy Gil]

Lukewarm.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

A month late. It might be.

[Greg Cody]

First of all. First of all, I wasn't a month late based on my own opinion. I'm allowed to have my opinion when I have it, okay? I don't knee jerk like other people do when I think that I have finally seen a game that may have tipped the scales. And if I'm Steven Ross right now, for the first time all season, I'm thinking to myself, and he may be. I need to make a coaching change, okay? I didn't feel like that a month ago. And so I said it, I wrote it when I thought it was late.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Late like you were today.

[Greg Cody]

Then you late today. I was not late on my opinion. You can't tell me when I'm late on my effing opinion.

[Billy Gil]

Got him.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I can tell you. I can tell you that.

[Greg Cody]

No, you can't, because it's my opinion. I own it.

[Mike Ryan]

Shows aren't scheduled on opinions. Was that your computer?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That was Greg's computer coming in ill prepared.

[Billy Gil]

Look, Dan, don't get.

[Greg Cody]

Don't. You're pushing it right now, Greg.

[Billy Gil]

Oh, that Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan. In Greg's defense.

[Dan LeBatard]

Go on.

[Billy Gil]

No one would notice he wasn't here if you made a big deal about it, Right? You could have just done the show, and then we could have just assumed that Greg was silent this whole time. And now he's chiming in 19 minutes in. Yes, but you decided to make that a central theme to this show. Shame on you, Dan lebatar. Yes, and shame on Zaslow.

[Dan LeBatard]

Shame on you.

[Billy Gil]

The Iago parrot on your shoulders.

[Greg Cody]

The parrot. Thank you, Billy, by the way. Listen, you're both. I have a right to my opinion when I have it, okay? All right. You guys are not a columnist for the Miami Herald, okay? Your opinions are spewed into microphone.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dan could still be right if he wants.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm still Miami Herald columnist.

[Greg Cody]

Are you?

[Billy Gil]

I mean, he's been late to work for the last 10 years.

[Greg Cody]

What year was your last column?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm gonna Say three, four years ago?

[Greg Cody]

I think it was longer than that. Yeah, you're. You're reminding me here of columnist like Luther Evans and Edwin Pope.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I mean, RIP They've been dead for many years.

[Greg Cody]

I know they have.

[Dan LeBatard]

So he's a communist, like dead people.

[Greg Cody]

Yes, because he doesn't write. You're not a columnist.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

If you write, your opinion matters more than our opinion because you're still a columnist even though your opinion is a month, a month late.

[Greg Cody]

No, it isn't.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Has been wrong for a month.

[Greg Cody]

No, it hasn't.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You've been as wrong as anyone could possibly be about this Dolphins football team and its leadership.

[Greg Cody]

You couldn't be more wrong.

[Dan LeBatard]

An opinion can be late. Like if you're saying, if you showed up today and you said the Dolphins are a bad football team and you're saying that for the first time this season, that opinion's really late.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, I'm not saying that. They've been bad for a long time. Okay. They keep reaching new lows. It was a new low the way they opened the season at Indy. It was a new low when they blew a 17 point lead to Carolina. It was a new low when they managed to lose to the Chargers by not particularly with 46 seconds left. It was a new low again yesterday. The lows add up and they make me a reasonable columnist. Say now is the time. If you want to make a coaching change, you make it now. Okay, you can, you can disagree with that, but it's my opinion.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

My last column was in October of 2022 about Tua. Am I still a Miami Herald columnist? Oh, we got a judge here and a journalist.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, that's a good question.

[Billy Gil]

Three years is a long time. Dan.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yes. Am I still a Miami Herald?

[Dan LeBatard]

I need a little bit of evidence. And the evidence that would like to have before me is if you put in the search bar@the herald.com the name Dan LeBatard. Does his name come up as a Miami Herald columnist? I need some evidence.

[Billy Gil]

Clickbait. Yes, it does.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay, so forgive me for this. I don't know when the expiration date. I have not officially retired from the Miami Herald. So while I have not written, are.

[Dan LeBatard]

You calm to submit?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I don't, I don't. I don't think.

[Greg Cody]

You'Re paid by the column, right? Like if you say, I want to write a column on such and such, they'll say, all right, I'll give you 200 bucks. Go ahead.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I would, I would say the Miami Herald probably hasn't paid me. And so this is bad evidence on my part. I'm incriminating myself. I'm like two and McDaniel talking too much. The Miami Herald probably hasn't paid me in 10 years.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. Welcome to the club.

[Billy Gil]

I've never heard anyone be dismissed. Put it in the suis. Best dismissal. The laugh that Greg Cody did, he just. He.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It was such a gift that to be Harold emeritus. Do you have to be dead? Like. No, I would think I am Miami Herald emeritus, would I not? I have not earned that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, emeritus is alive. You're always the guy, even though you're not active. That's emeritus. Right.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So you don't think I could write right now for the Miami Herald if I wanted to?

[Greg Cody]

Yes, but you quit writing when you write once every five years, three years. You're not a writer.

[Dan LeBatard]

Have you quit writing?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I have not.

[Billy Gil]

There it is.

[Greg Cody]

Okay.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

All right, so let's. Well, he's the judge and the journalist and the law.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm about to make my ruling. I heard enough.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Do you have imaging? Do you. Do you have imaging? Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

All rise. The honorable Jonathan Zaslow now presiding with prejudice.

[Dan LeBatard]

The case before me, whether or not Dan lebatar is still a columnist for the Miami Herald. My ruling. Yes, he is. With prejudice. Greg Cody.

[Greg Cody]

Yes, with prejudice, indeed.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Thank you, Emeritus.

[Dan LeBatard]

Very prejudice.

[Greg Cody]

With prejudice has never been more aptly put.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I don't think I've ever fired a coach in this market. I think there was just one time that I said Don Shula should be replaced. He never forgave me, and it was because Jimmie Johnson was available. My opinion on this is Miami Herald columnist emeritus is ruled by Jonathan Zaslow, is that you just suffer it out with these guys, with the. Not with the knowledge that you are going to make a leadership change no matter what happens the rest of the season.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, but how much does it play a factor that you want to show the fan base that you're willing to make big changes.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So. So those are optics, and you could.

[Mike Ryan]

Whatever.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Whatever the best management move is to, hey, yeah, we're going to fire him, but they're going to stick around for a couple of weeks because it can't get any worse than that. We need them to lead the. This show the. The rest of the way here. But we're gonna. We're gonna bring in a leadership change shortly. Like, whatever. It doesn't matter whether you fire him today or four weeks from now. They failed. Like, it's an abject, embarrassing failure. The wheels have fallen off, and what will get swallowed is their architecture. Their money and their quarterback and it's all gone. Like Bradley Chubb. They were all in, man. They were all in. Piece by piece. On. We're going to get a pass rusher and Bradley Chubb, like. And, and, and now you see what the Patriots are, what the Bills are. Everyone here must go. It's been obvious since before the season when they went into the season with no corners. You were late to that opinion.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, when you say everybody must go. Bradley Chubbs had a good season. Jordan Brooks leads the NFL in tackles. Devon Hn is a very good running back for the future. He's played very well.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

If they don't kill him.

[Greg Cody]

I haven't given up on Jalen Waddle one catches. They have pieces. Yeah, and they threw to him like twice.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I mean, look, that's not a number one receiver. Okay, it can be said.

[Greg Cody]

I agree. But I mean, he's a number two.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He was drafted.

[Mike Ryan]

He's playing like number two.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He was drafted to be a star like A.J.

[Dan LeBatard]

Brown.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

A poop joke.

[Greg Cody]

I got it.

[Mike Ryan]

That's right.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

A.J. brown won yesterday's Eagles game because Brian Flores now gets to be right. The Eagles, that game's decided because a very good red zone team. Six times the Vikings go into the red zone. Five times they kick field goals.

[Mike Ryan]

Brian Flores found a way to stop the tush push.

[Dan LeBatard]

You saw what he did.

[Mike Ryan]

He invented something. This is what we wanted. Advance the game. Don't just outlaw something because it's hard to defend. Invent something.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think the next move is you stack them on top of each other.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a great idea.

[Dan LeBatard]

They lay on top of each other.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Hold on, hold on. We will get to the. Because there was some fun stuff yesterday.

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[Billy Gil]

Up.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, he doesn't want. He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that. As a result, he needs something that happens.

[Dan LeBatard]

You can see him mother effing.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He says, can we bother?

[Dan LeBatard]

Are we bothering you right now?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Turn on your microphone. Gr.

[Greg Cody]

My microphone's on st.

[Dan LeBatard]

Paint the scene.

[Greg Cody]

The paint the scene is. I got to go to work. Good night.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

This is the D?

[Dan LeBatard]

Ler show with the st. We're not.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Even halfway through the football season.

[Greg Cody]

Wait.

[Mike Ryan]

We're still throwing dirt on the Dolphins, though. I took 10 minutes to put pen to paper.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

All right.

[Mike Ryan]

To show you that you are not a special unique snowflake that this happens. Dan mentioned they went all in. Plenty of teams go all in. There's a problem with going all in. You can lose the hand and lose everything. And on your way out, you can say goodbye to Jarvis Landry, Odell Beckham and Baker Mayfield. Because plenty of teams go all in and fail. But in the last 27 years, I established a criteria. You either had to make a Pro bowl, get to your second rookie, get to Your second contract under the new rookie wage scale, be among the league leaders in passing or take your team to a Super Bowl. Here is a list of quarterbacks that had their fan bases swearing that they found the answer at the position.

[Billy Gil]

I'm going to. Your criteria changes greatly what we're talking about.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

We were talking about what he was.

[Mike Ryan]

Among the league leaders, but he made it to the playoffs. He made it to a second contract. Outside of making it to a Super bowl, he fits like damn near every one of those criteria.

[Billy Gil]

It's not about him fitting those criteria. It's about. What we're talking about, TUA, is this idea that this is the guy and some of those criteria that you name, like for instance, getting your second contract, it's not that this is the guy. It's just like this is the guy for right now. Well, that wasn't the feeling when I tour that this is for right now.

[Mike Ryan]

The Raiders thought they had the guy in Derek Carr, okay? They thought they had the guy, okay? And after a year, after giving him a huge contract extension because they found the guy on the rookie wage scale contract, and this is what you do. We had value at the position. We got to move on. Derek Carr gets benched the following year after signing a big time contract. Not the guy. Derek Anderson for Cleveland.

[Dan LeBatard]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

We've been searching for a quarterback. The guy makes a Pro bowl. And this was before Tyler Huntley could make it to the Pro Bowl. No, not the guy. Josh Freeman, rookie. We nailed it among the league leaders in passing. We. We nailed that position. We nailed that pick. Nope, you didn't. Colin Kaepernick took his team to a Super Bowl.

[Billy Gil]

Okay. That's a different story there.

[Mike Ryan]

He wasn't that good. He.

[Dan LeBatard]

Whoa.

[Mike Ryan]

Blake Bortles. Mitch Trubisky made it to a Pro Bowl.

[Greg Cody]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes, he did. Was an MVP Leading candidate. Mac Jones took his team to the playoffs his rookie season for New England. No drop off here. You. The Bill Belichick keeps everything moving. Vince Young, Jameis Winston, you are not special. TUA is just the latest in a long line.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let the record show he took marker to paper, not pen.

[Greg Cody]

There. There you go. Mac Jones doing pretty well for San Fran, by the way.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

All right, let's, let's. We haven't even gotten to the University of Miami yet. But I. Halfway through a season, I really did think was done a month ago. I've also done this to the Carolina Panthers and they're four and three and their season is still done.

[Greg Cody]

You're very premature by the Way, writing teams off, that's like your thing. You want to be first in line. So you sometimes make a ridiculous. No, the Dolphins, by the way, the Chiefs are doing pretty well right now.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, well, that one. Yeah, well. So I'm going to have to eat that one. That's. I should go ahead and.

[Billy Gil]

Gladly.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I could go ahead and bend the knee.

[Dan LeBatard]

Now eat that shit. It.

[Mike Ryan]

Did Greg run out of breath on a six word sentence?

[Dan LeBatard]

Pretty wild.

[Greg Cody]

Did I?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah. Well, he's coming.

[Mike Ryan]

Jones.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He's come in hot because of traffic. He's late. He thinks he's so good at the game that he can just show up and be fiddling with his equipment while also giving a. An opinion.

[Greg Cody]

He said, putting words in Greg's mouth as usual. I didn't say that I was so good that I can afford to show up late. Traffic said that. Why don't you call the mayor of Miami and ask him why he has the worst traffic in America? Why when school is out and traffic should be light? It took me more than two hours to get to work today. Why call the mayor right now? He's the one who's got to explain, not me. If you think I'm going to start leaving my house at 6:15 in the morning to get here at 9, ha ha. It ain't gonna happen.

[Dan LeBatard]

Period.

[Greg Cody]

Paradise.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is an unfair shot of an empty roadway right outside our studio.

[Mike Ryan]

It does fall under Miami's jurisdiction, whereas much of the traffic that Greg encountered, I think of county lines and yin yang.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So, so, so your excuse? I just want to be clear. I wonder how many other employees in Miami are getting to work late. And then their, their reaction is bleep off, call the mayor.

[Greg Cody]

I'm blaming the mayor.

[Dan LeBatard]

I just like how if you're, you know, scolding Dan that if you believe I'm going to leave at a time to get to my work on time.

[Greg Cody]

Right.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're nuts. That was, that was the crux of your argument.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. So you don't have to draw a line then. Okay, You're. In other words, you, if necessary, you would leave your house at 5am to get here at 3.

[Dan LeBatard]

If that means that I have to get to work on time, I have to do it. Yes.

[Greg Cody]

No, you don't. You draw the line.

[Dan LeBatard]

You literally do.

[Greg Cody]

You take a stand, I take a stand. And by the way, who appointed you judge? And how did that bit happen?

[Dan LeBatard]

This isn't about me.

[Greg Cody]

No, no, no. Let me know. How did you become the judge?

[Dan LeBatard]

Because everybody knows I'm good at judging Things.

[Greg Cody]

Is that right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, that is right.

[Greg Cody]

Wow. Okay.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, we know this.

[Dan LeBatard]

Everyone knows.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And he's a journalist.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Who appointed that? I got a degree from the University of Florida. That's who appointed it.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, you did. Journalists. What's that? Panther shirt.

[Dan LeBatard]

Florida Panther. That's my squad. Reigning champs. I love them.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, for seven of the power play.

[Greg Cody]

Impartial journalist. Anyway, where were we?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

We've got to get to the University of Miami because we've been derailed in just dolphin talk. But I do believe that the things going on in Miami that we. I do believe that we have a number of things in Miami going on that rival some of the other things going on. Maybe not that Denver Giants game, because that was bad. Crazy. Damn. The end of your NFL Sunday was an insanity against all odds. I asked you, please, somebody look this up for me. What. What the hell would be the betting odds on team gets held scoreless for three quarters because the Giants do something very correctly and then scores 33 points in the fourth quarter. What are the odds against whatever the hell happened at the end of that game?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, Bad teams find a way to lose. We've seen that in Miami. We saw it with the Giants. It just happens. I can't remember the last time a team, any team, scored 33 points in a quarter.

[Mike Ryan]

I will try my best to quantify this. NFL teams had won 1602 consecutive games when leading by 18 plus points with six minutes or less to play in the fourth quarter.

[Dan LeBatard]

At one point in that game, the Broncos were 60 to 1 to win. Moneyline. You could have got them at plus.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

6,000 if you led in the last six minutes by 18 plus points. NFL teams had won 1602 straight games.

[Mike Ryan]

Courtesy of Steve Martin. That stats bureau that he runs is incredible.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

The Giants led 26. 8 with six minutes left.

[Greg Cody]

I mean, I mean, granted, they did miss an extra point. It should have been two. Whatever. Yeah, so it was tough luck. But still, when Brian Daboll gets fired and it's. It's a win, not an F, he will look back on a game like this as like, wow, here, give me that nail. Give me a hammer. Where's my coffin?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

But all the games are close. All the other teams are interesting. The Dolphins are only interesting because everyone in the league is looking at them and the jets and saying, that's how it all falls apart.

[Billy Gil]

That.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That Garrett Wilson goes out and that's how bad organizations fall apart after the Patriots dynasties had been running this division for. For 20 years before Josh Allen took it Right.

[Dan LeBatard]

Like my father asked, my father came over to watch the game with me and it was like, you know, what's, what's the next. What's the next move for this team? What's the outlook? I was like, there's no outlook right now. Like, there's no light at the end of the tunnel right now. And that's why, like Brian Dale all, I don't think he's going to get fired because Jackson Dart improving throughout the season is by far more important than them winning games. And Jackson Dart looks kind of good. Like, I don't think, well, that's the light at the end of that time.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So. But Jackson Dart now infuses hope and value at quarterback and personality. And that's how the Giants swing on a losing season into an interesting season as the Broncos are two field goals from being unbeaten. And we know the Colts are good. Like the Colts have now announced themselves as no, this can be trusted. We are good. We are a precise thing led by a quarterback who's going to play. Precisely.

[Mike Ryan]

But.

[Greg Cody]

But as we all know, Jackson Dart playing two or three good games in a row does not mean he's going to be a really good quarterback.

[Billy Gil]

That's.

[Greg Cody]

That's sort of the point Mike was making.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

We're not avoiding the Canes conversation. We're going to have the Canes conversation.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't want to have the Canes conversation whatsoever. Whatso.

[Dan LeBatard]

We are not doing that.

[Mike Ryan]

We are not doing that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

Howdy, listeners. It's Mike Ryan and Chris Cody.

[Greg Cody]

Hey, everyone.

[Mike Ryan]

Hey, Chris. We love hanging out so much. You were at my birthday the other day.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You're old.

[Mike Ryan]

You know what I saw in your hand?

[Billy Gil]

What?

[Mike Ryan]

A can of Miller Light. Whether it's a can, whether it's a bottle, a draft pour of Miller Light. Oh, the draft. Boy, you see that beautiful, iconic color right away.

[Dan LeBatard]

The ice coldness to it. Oh, so good.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes, Chris, the ice coldness to it. Oh, Whether you're hanging out with me on my birthday because I'm old or you're at a game, you know that Miller Lite just makes every special time a Miller time. That's how you make the special time by making a Miller. At times, game day just hits different with Miller Lite in your hand hittin different from jaw dropping touchdowns to fantasy heartbreaks. It's a beer that has been there for every moment. 50 years of great taste, simple ingredients and that iconic golden color. That coldness, Chris, that.

[Dan LeBatard]

That icy coldness.

[Mike Ryan]

That icy coldness. The original light beer since 1970. Five and still hitting different five decades later. Miller Lite Great Taste 96 calories go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.

[Dan LeBatard]

I see coldness.