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Dan Le Batard
Shadow Show.
Greg Cody
Shadow Show.
Dan Le Batard
Shadow Show.
Stugotz
Shadow Show.
Greg Cody
Shadow Show. Shadow Show.
Dan Le Batard
Shadow Show.
Greg Cody
Shadowing it. Shadowing it.
Dan Le Batard
What a lovely way to start a Monday to come in here with Stugats and Greg and see Greg Cody talking about how much his body hurts because he may have danced a little too much this weekend.
Stugotz
Ah, it happens.
Greg Cody
It's true. Yeah, that's what I hear. I mean, I was there, but you know, it takes video evidence for me to believe that I was dancing that much.
Chris Cody
Usually in weddings that I've been to with my dad, you have to drag him onto the dance floor.
Stugotz
That's true. This one, not this time.
Chris Cody
You'd see him and he's just making his way out.
Dan Le Batard
Finally. I'll tell you what that was. That's the joy of relief. The youngest one is out. I could live for myself as the giant toddler I've always wanted to be. Well, I'm free of responsibility now.
Greg Cody
The parenting never stops.
Dan Le Batard
Michael, she's your problem.
Greg Cody
Well, that's true. And. And she.
Dan Le Batard
Or the no yo, I don't know her name. I got that.
Chris Cody
Tati. He's your problem now.
Greg Cody
It's a fine, Tatiana.
Dan Le Batard
That is a fine Venmo.
Stugotz
Fine.
Greg Cody
I think it is a fine.
Billy
Not anymore. You've been gone a while.
Dan Le Batard
Sorry. So it's Stugats.
Billy
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.
Dan Le Batard
Billy. Hockey's fun, huh?
Billy
I've been told that the hockey playoffs are fun. Unfortunately, down here in Florida, we've only had one. And it was a cakewalk. And we Knew exactly how it was gonna go. So I'm hoping the next round down here for the Panthers is fun, but like, wow, you score a game tying goal with like a second and a half left in regulation.
Greg Cody
Oof.
Billy
Hockey.
Dan Le Batard
Greg.
Greg Cody
Yeah, what do you need?
Stugotz
What happened?
Dan Le Batard
Why are you grabbing your microphone, making all sorts of noises if we didn't already start the show? And you don't know where the microphone's supposed to be.
Greg Cody
Okay, okay.
Dan Le Batard
Because you danced too much this weekend.
Stugotz
I mean, he is coming off a big wedding weekend.
Dan Le Batard
Are you gonna be this today? Are you gonna be this?
Greg Cody
Okay? I don't need to be scolded by you. Greg's sort of in a bad mood.
Stugotz
Bad boy.
Greg Cody
For a couple of different reasons. An unnamed voice in my head while we're on the air told me to move over a little to my left. So I did as I was instructed, and I therefore had to move my microphone. If it made a tiny little sound, I cry your pardon, sir. Now go on with your show and leave me alone. Christ Almighty, treat me like a child. I warned Christopher. I'm not in the mood to be scolded on the air for something that wasn't my fault.
Chris Cody
Right?
Greg Cody
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
Right. So I treat you like a child. Cause you are one. Because you dance this weekend like a fool. Because you got rid of the young one.
Greg Cody
Well, whether I got rid of him or not is. Is a whole nother question.
Chris Cody
But you never get rid of the kids.
Dan Le Batard
Never. Isn't he like 40?
Greg Cody
No, he's like 33. In fact. He is 33.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Greg Cody
So he's not like 33. He's been 33 for several.
Dan Le Batard
Tell me about the wedding. What hurts? Where does your body hurt? Why does it hurt? And how was the best man speech? Because I assume. I don't think I have this wrong. I don't know that Michael has a lot of best men to choose from, but like here at Meadowlark with the executive producer chair, this is the best we got. And so his best man isn't the best. It's. It's just the best the pirate ships got.
Chris Cody
I don't know how to take what you're saying.
Billy
Neither do I.
Stugotz
It's not a compliment that your.
Dan Le Batard
That your brother made you the best man because his choices made you the best man.
Chris Cody
Well, that's what you do, right, with brothers. When you have friends, you don't know which one to choose. You're just like, all right, the brother.
Dan Le Batard
No. You two are very close.
Chris Cody
No, we are, but it's like he has Other friends that he could have chosen.
Stugotz
But you just know a brother breaks the tie.
Jeremy
You just make it easy.
Stugotz
It gets him out of a bed.
Chris Cody
It's honestly what I did. It's what I did. I had friends I could have chose and I just, you know, you choose your brother.
Greg Cody
I mean, way back in the day, I chose Uncle Dick. You know, you choose your brother.
Billy
You.
Greg Cody
It's the default.
Dan Le Batard
He chose Dick.
Greg Cody
You sort of have to. Yeah, but the speech was.
Chris Cody
I got, I don't want to oversell it, but I got praises the rest of the night. People coming up to me, oh man, you really are the funnier brother. That was one of my lines in the thing, that I'm the funnier brother.
Dan Le Batard
But can we see that speech and see if it holds up in court? Can we, can we get the audience to decide with the expectation of funny?
Stugotz
You told us on Friday you didn't want to make it about you.
Chris Cody
Well, I had to throw in some zingers.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, look, I've got sources on this and I'm surprised. I don't know. You guys will have to tell me. You guys will have to explain to me what I missed this weekend at Michael's wedding. As Greg released, he received his freedom. And now the only one left to raise a child is Earlene, who has this giant toddler now at home who is a granddad. And it's been a delight to watch him be that. Good God, it's the softest hymn I've ever seen. He's so much more delightful with them than he ever was with these young BO that he ruined with all of his parenting.
Greg Cody
True.
Dan Le Batard
And Chris made a good speech according to the discerning eye of Greg Cody, who knows what good writing sounds like.
Greg Cody
It was a, it was a very good speech. He really overthought it. And by that, that's a, that's a compliment. He was concerned about particular words and how it would sound and what he should say, what he shouldn't say. He put a lot into it and it was a. It was long. I'm going to be very honest, it was like seven and a half minutes long.
Dan Le Batard
Too long.
Stugotz
Too long.
Dan Le Batard
Say it. Greg too.
Greg Cody
It was longish. It might have been, but he nailed it.
Chris Cody
I, I did it quicker cuz when I was recording it in my house, like I went so thorough with it that I like recorded how long it would took and it took me like nine minutes in my kitchen.
Stugotz
Wow.
Chris Cody
So I, you know when you do it, you get a little.
Stugotz
You did a practice run, huh? Multiple.
Greg Cody
Really? Well, I. I told. I told him not to hurry it because, you know, when you're a little nervous or whatever, you tend to talk too fast. So I told him to take your time. You got to.
Dan Le Batard
Was it too long?
Greg Cody
No, it wasn't.
Dan Le Batard
You said it was long. Ish.
Greg Cody
I said it was long Ish. But the time flew. Let's put it this way.
Dan Le Batard
You noticed it was long, though. The time must not have flown that fast if you noticed it was long after the fact.
Greg Cody
Somebody told me it was seven and a half minutes long.
Dan Le Batard
And why was anyone timing it?
Greg Cody
Because.
Dan Le Batard
Because it was too long.
Greg Cody
Whatever.
Chris Cody
No, it's because they were videoing and they just looked at their videos.
Greg Cody
Right.
Stugotz
I mean, it's at 7:30.
Greg Cody
It's called technology. On.
Billy
On Friday, we spoke strategy with Chris Cody. We're trying to give him a pep talk of what to do. One of the things that was discussed was should he just redo Greg's speec the rehearsal dinner the night before and see how long before Greg noticed that he just recycled his speech?
Greg Cody
That would have been funny.
Billy
I'm assuming he didn't do that. He also was talking about pranking his brother and making him drink some sort of pickle juice or something. Vienna Sausage juice.
Chris Cody
I ended up referencing the Vienna Sausage prank that he did with me. Did a callback to it, but I did not actually bust out the Vienna sausage.
Billy
What did you bore everyone with for seven and a half minutes? You didn't do any of the pranks or anything we practiced?
Chris Cody
No, I did some fun stories about him and I think it went well.
Dan Le Batard
Okay.
Greg Cody
It was really good. And I will say that fun snippets from his best man speech are exclusively on the Greg Cody show podcast, which dropped this.
Chris Cody
We could play it here.
Greg Cody
So listen to it.
Dan Le Batard
If. If there were any communication between any of these, we would bring the universes together and it would be delightful. Instead, we will just tell people and we'll have no planning and instead we will have an executive producer who hasn't been thinking about the show. And.
Chris Cody
Well, no, it's actually very intentional. He doesn't want it played here.
Dan Le Batard
No. And a old man at 70 who now has his freedom, he's thinking about a show.
Stugotz
His own show.
Dan Le Batard
Well, but this is. Yes, yes, you should. But the question I now want to ask, based on the information I've just been given, are you guys telling me that he made the rehearsal speech? How long was that? Because I can imagine him really falling.
Stugotz
As long as he wants.
Dan Le Batard
I imagine he could really fall in love with his own voice there.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Was he brief or did he go months?
Chris Cody
It was shorter. Shorter than mine.
Greg Cody
It was a few minutes. It was three.
Chris Cody
Also, a different speech.
Billy
The.
Chris Cody
The father at the rehearsal dinner. Much less like pressure than the best man speech.
Greg Cody
Yeah, that's true.
Stugotz
Debatable.
Greg Cody
And. And the one nitpick on his best man speech is that I fed him a couple of funny lines. Terrible jokes he chose not to use. See, Michael, look, my newlywed has a little phobia, a little fetish. He never shows his bare feet.
Billy
Oh.
Greg Cody
Oh, thank God. He just doesn't.
Chris Cody
Thank God when I tell you I'm his brother. I've seen his feet maybe two or three times in my entire life.
Stugotz
That's strange.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, wow. Okay, so wait a minute. Wait a minute. This is not a fetish. And I don't know if it's a phobia, but you guys have certainly revealed, it would appear your brother or son's greatest insecurity on air.
Chris Cody
And that. And we pointed out the night before at dinner, we're like, oh, should I joke about this? And Michael very clearly was like, don't do this.
Greg Cody
I know, but we kid about it all the time. But it's like an open secret in the family.
Dan Le Batard
No, but that's an inner circle. He clearly is ashamed of his feet.
Billy
What's wrong with that?
Greg Cody
No, he actually. He has beautiful.
Chris Cody
He gets super defensive about. There's nothing wrong with them. I just don't like not wearing socks. Like, he gets super mad. But, dad, why don't you pitch the joke that you wanted me to say? It's a real doozy.
Stugotz
I have to hear.
Dan Le Batard
He must have been scarred by his father's feet as a child.
Greg Cody
It could be.
Dan Le Batard
You've got to know for sure. Like, for sure.
Chris Cody
He lashes out at my dad's feet anytime my dad brings up his feet.
Dan Le Batard
Your father's feet are disgusting.
Greg Cody
They look like dinosaurs.
Dan Le Batard
Because we had thousands of people come over and see his toenail doesn't make the feet disgusting. They're prehistoric. That's not a human being. That. That's an animal. If I told you that thing lived in prehistoric times, it was a pterodactyls talon, you would say, yes, it was.
Greg Cody
Okay, you photoshopped that.
Chris Cody
No, that did nothing to that.
Dan Le Batard
That is a demon gargoyle that fries chicken on or fries turkey on Thanksgiving. And that's how those feet look like a. Like the devil's feet. If I told you to be fair.
Stugotz
Those are from prehistoric times.
Dan Le Batard
I told you guys. No other context. In fact, put that on the Twitter. On the Twitt, please, at LeBatard show. Do these look like the devil's feet? The devil's barefooted. The devil's got the same. Devil's got the same phobias. The devil's got the same phobia that Michael Cody has about his feet and those feet. He's scarred because his father has the devil's feet. That has been naked in bathrooms, wandering around the house for 30 years. That boy got married, and it's miracle a woman loves him. He's been scarred by his father's feet.
Jeremy
Because of seeing those feet as a kid. He has foot dysmorphia instead of body dysmorphia. He sees his feet as his father's, even though he, according to his father, has beautiful feet.
Greg Cody
That is the worst photograph of my feet I have ever seen.
Chris Cody
You don't say.
Dan Le Batard
It's not the worst. They're worse. Now that we've been telling you this for years. We've been telling you. This is what I believe.
Stugotz
I miss that toe.
Dan Le Batard
This is what I believe. Stu Gas has twice cut that toenail because we're all on record knowing that's exactly what that looks like. That's not what that. He cut those toenails and we preserved them. And people made a pilgrimage. Thousands of people.
Greg Cody
That's true.
Dan Le Batard
To come see one of those toenails, because why wouldn't you get the artifact of I've got the toenail from the devil's feet?
Greg Cody
Yeah, that's true. I think that's the one distinction I have that perhaps nobody else on earth has.
Dan Le Batard
Can you guys. Can you guys get Jessica on the phone, please? I think some of the funniest things she did was being truly disgusted by Greg's feet. This is on record. Greg, your feet are disgusting. And your youngest son has been scarred for life by it in a way that I now insist that Michael send us a photo of his feet.
Greg Cody
Well, it's a joke within the family, and I fed Christopher a lot of good lines that he chose not to do.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, let's do only dance with your brother's feet. Let's find how many people will pay. Let's figure this out. Do it on your podcast. Build a business over there. How do we get Michael's feet seen by the public? Show us your shame. It's okay. Everybody loves feet.
Greg Cody
Beautiful feet.
Billy
Why is it called only Dan's if it's Michael?
Dan Le Batard
I don't know. You guys need my name to make money. Yes.
Chris Cody
Greg, tell the joke. The awful joke that you wanted me to do about my brother.
Greg Cody
Okay. There were several lines I gave him, and one of my favorites was, I don't want to say Michael's ashamed of his feet, but even when he gets a pedicure with socks on. I thought that was. That's.
Chris Cody
That's what I was working with, so that's why I left it out.
Greg Cody
I think it would have killed. He gets a pedicure with socks on.
Jeremy
We got it.
Stugotz
Because I get it.
Greg Cody
He showers with dress shoes on. I mean, there's a million things you can say, and he chose not to do any of them. Nevertheless, his best man speech. Slade. I thought it was really good. Huh?
Chris Cody
Been saying that all weekend, and I. It annoys me every time.
Dan Le Batard
Slayed him using slave.
Greg Cody
A modern word to use. I mean, dragon saying that.
Dan Le Batard
Put it on the pole.
Stugotz
Leave the man alone.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, seriously, put it on the poll.
Stugotz
Slaying it.
Dan Le Batard
Is Slade like, a modern thing to say?
Greg Cody
I think it is.
Dan Le Batard
You're keep. You're keeping up with the kids by complimenting his best man speech by using a verb that the kids use.
Greg Cody
Yeah, it's slayed.
Dan Le Batard
And your son's. Your son's annoyed that you're doing this. Is it. Is it like me and Pablo saying standing on business last week?
Chris Cody
Exactly that.
Dan Le Batard
You got that right. Okay. I Just to make sure.
Greg Cody
Still gas. What he said.
Dan Le Batard
Mm.
Chris Cody
That came from Louis for sure.
Stugotz
What?
Dan Le Batard
Oh, do I miss that show? Where are you guys there for him? That's. You guys are supposed to be producing him there. You guys should be giving him that joke. I'm wondering why it is that I got from funny guy Slade Guy over here. I got sources that tell me. And I'd like to know which joke this was that you had written on your piece of paper. Pause for laughter.
Jeremy
Yes.
Dan Le Batard
Yes.
Chris Cody
And I actually was instructed by a comedian to actually say that line, because that's just what I'm doing. I'm pausing for laughter. That's just a reminder for me to lay out here.
Stugotz
So Brad Williams told you that, huh?
Chris Cody
And he was like, you gotta say the line. Read it out loud. I didn't do it. I did not actually read it.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, you have to. It's funnier if you play the oath there. It's funnier if you say Ron Burgundy.
Stugotz
Did you do a bunch of short jokes as well?
Greg Cody
I mean, I told him to say pause for laughter out loud. That would have been funny.
Chris Cody
I did a couple times in my rehearsal. But Just it didn't make it to the final.
Greg Cody
Are you going to admit who fed you the line that was your opening field Yates?
Chris Cody
My opening line, My opening joke was a field Yates.
Billy
Did you write any of your speech?
Chris Cody
Yes, I wrote all of it.
Billy
Sounds like wrote it. And Brad Williams and Greg wrote some of it.
Chris Cody
You know, I, I, I thought a lot about it. I went to, I, I used sounding boards.
Billy
How'd you, how'd you get to field Yates in terms of, like, who should.
Dan Le Batard
Be getting you prep?
Stugotz
She was on the big show.
Greg Cody
Happened to be on my podcast, Greg.
Dan Le Batard
Cody show featuring Greg Cody.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
And he made it about himself and narcissism and field. What advice do you have for me and my interesting family?
Chris Cody
It was a risque opening line. It got, it got some, it got a lot of laughter, but it got some groans.
Billy
What was it?
Chris Cody
It was, you know, they say the best man's speech is only supposed to last as long as the groom does in bed. And that got a big laugh right there. So enjoy dinner, everyone.
Stugotz
Did you pause for laughter?
Chris Cody
Of course I did. I'm telling you, that one slayed.
Greg Cody
It was good. No, it was great. And here's the thing in what we play from his best man speech on my podcast, which is out today, the Greg Cody show, he insisted that the emotional parts not be in. He wanted just the funny stuff in because it did get very emotional. And I was moved. I was touched. As the father of both, I thought it was wonderful.
Dan Le Batard
Enough with the sentiment. His body hurts. That's the excuse to Greg Cody today on why it is he will be bad and cranky and everything else. I do want to know how much you danced, but that was a pretty cool sports weekend. I don't know where the rest of you would begin today. And I know a lot of the story today is going to be about the warriors and Steph Curry as I'm like, holy Winnipeg. My God.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Like, I mean, just.
Stugotz
What a game.
Dan Le Batard
What do you mean? There's a hockey coach that's nine and oh, in game sevens. How is that possible? And, and it's just a total insanity. As. Yeah, Warriors Rockets for all the stakes. Buddy healed beats everybody. That's the night Buddy healed.
Stugotz
The Buddy healed game.
Dan Le Batard
Now we're. But we're going to say Steph Curry second half splurge. You know, Jimmy Butler. Oh, Buddy healed. Okay. Can you. That's a bit surprising to see all of that happen, Joe. Oh, that's how the game's played in Game 7. It's not about anybody's toughness. It's about, oh, that guy makes threes better than a lot of people. And whoa. And Rockets can't score. And they're really tough. The Rockets are really tough. But Buddy, he'll make all the threes. And if he does that for any team in the league, they'll win the championship. Yeah.
Stugotz
Who is this person?
Greg Cody
Yeah. Really.
Dan Le Batard
Isn't that what happened, though? Do I have it wrong on.
Stugotz
I mean, Buddy Healed had a game. Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
No, but certainly it's not just Buddy Healed had a game. It's Buddy healed had a game after Steph. Steve Kerr has been on a mic caught. Hey, Buddy Heald, that's your teammate Steph Curry over there. Pass him the ball. He's the best shooter ever. And Buddy, he's like, no, tonight I'll shoot it in game seven. Yeah, I'll do it. And I'm really good at it, too. Not as good as Steph Curry, because.
Jeremy
No one is part of this. Was also, though, the Rockets just being exposed for not having enough on offense. Like, it's not like Steph or even Buddy Hield's big performance really meant that the warriors were scoring that much. It was the fact that. That the Rockets did not have a go to scorer. Shangun got shut down, and the moment that Amen Thompson wasn't at full strength, that game was over.
Dan Le Batard
Well, so Draymond Green, who gets hustle awards and no one likes him, and he's just an unprecedented defensive beast that you just must give credit to because, no, the Rockets do have an excellent number one option. They do. He's excellent. I'd like him against a lot of teams all over the league. I'm not. I'm not saying that he's some of these other people. I'm saying that I'm a bit startled that Draymond Green, it's still at this point, doing that in game Sevens as the fuel and furnace for them, as, hey, the Rockets, we've seen this so many times, right? I mean, LeBron just got knocked out and that's over over there. And you're going to wonder about it, but they got Jimmy and Steph for now, and they got him to get over a Rockets team that's younger, better seeding and tough. Tough like a team IME Udoka. And what they did there, they deserved a better fate than all of that. But they run into a champion at the end with Jimmy Butler hanging on for life. Steph hanging on for life. Hey, we just saw LeBron get knocked out. We Might not get another chance at this. Really? Because these young kids all want the league, Houston included.
Stugotz
Yes.
Dan Le Batard
They beat us at home, and now we go to game seven over there. And they're tough, but we're tougher because we've been here longer. And then Houston will be better next year because. Because you have to hurt like that to see, oh, they're tougher than us.
Stugotz
They're going through the pain right now.
Dan Le Batard
But it's not that they're tougher than you. It's just, that's the day Buddy he'll made all history.
Stugotz
Yes. I'm not certain they're tougher. You're right. A guy just got high. But I'm saying professional shooters.
Dan Le Batard
What do you think is going to be said on ESPN and what happened in Game 7? Like, you think they're going to turn on the television? It's not going to be, ah, the warriors, just tougher, mentally. Tougher. Stronger.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Bigger, faster, better. Oh, Draymond Green rules. He won that game, like. And. And because he's tougher. Isn't. Isn't that what's going to happen as. As the hockey playoffs have it?
Stugotz
Yes, as.
Dan Le Batard
As tougher, like we agreed. That's tougher. Yes.
Stugotz
In terms of credit, I agree with you. Nationally, it's going to be Steph, it's going to be Draymond Green, it's going to be Jimmy. But again, though, again, no one's talking about Buddy. He'll say, and everyone should be talking about Buddy. Heel.
Dan Le Batard
So can you guys. Well, that's not true. Put it on the poll. Should everyone.
Stugotz
I was nine of 11 in a close a game seven.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, put it on the poll.
Stugotz
Big Shot Bud.
Dan Le Batard
Put it on the poll. Is Big Shot Bud a good nickname?
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Don Levatard.
Greg Cody
What do I got here? I got a Magnum condom. We won't get that out.
Dan Le Batard
That's shocking. Stugats.
Greg Cody
Here's a picture of Christopher when he was like three years old.
Dan Le Batard
Right next to the condo.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Billy
Never forget, this is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.
Jeremy
Look, Stugats is right in that. That was the only difference here. Because if you look at the stars on both teams, all the stars were somewhere between 21 and 27 points.
Stugotz
They canceled each other out.
Jeremy
The difference is always in the role players. And I think in the NBA right now, we've seen it in this first round more than ever. It actually doesn't matter if you have the best star. It matters that your team is the deepest. You're only as good in the NBA right now as your weakest link. And there's been people writing about this recently, which is that the stardom has gotten to be so good. The superstars are so excellent and so consistent that James Harden in game seven. It's the total aberration. It's a total aberration where most of the stars will play well. It's up to those role players to make you a championship level, which is.
Greg Cody
Why the Heat got bounced the way they did.
Jeremy
That's exactly right. It wasn't about the fact. I mean, it is. Look, Harden or Hero and Adebayo are not the best duo that we're seeing in the playoffs. But it's not about the fact that that they fell short. It's the fact that after the two of them, what else was there for Miami?
Stugotz
Nothing.
Greg Cody
And you would think Wiggins, but he's not there. And there's no option to be the third and fourth.
Jeremy
Well, that's the difference with the warriors becomes Butler. And that's where they're great.
Dan Le Batard
The Clippers.
Jeremy
You really messed that one up, huh, Dan?
Stugotz
I mean, you thought Zubak was going to be a difference maker.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, the Clippers. I'm the guy who always goes to the strip club and falls in love with the other stripper, who I think loves me, Nicholas Batuu. Oh, my God. I'm that guy. What a hair. What a horrible thing to see in the mirror.
Stugotz
You still have the Pacers.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, my beloved Pacers. Thank you.
Greg Cody
That won't last.
Chris Cody
I feel like Tony was With you.
Dan Le Batard
You're up one.
Greg Cody
Oh, come on.
Dan Le Batard
Oh. Tony was with me and then he.
Chris Cody
Went off to Mexico.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, but Tony. Yes, Tony was with me, but it wasn't.
Stugotz
Huh.
Dan Le Batard
Really? So what knocks me out, makes me look like an idiot, is a dunk at the buzzer off of that yogic shot. That's what. Oh, really? That what's gonna. Oh. I went to sleep last night feeling bad at the end of another night when I went to the strip club and I thought that that stripper fell in love with me and I fell in love with her that night. James Harden is. I feel so bad for being so dumb. They lost to Russell Westbrook and DeAndre Jordan.
Chris Cody
Tyron Liu Zir.
Stugotz
Hey.
Dan Le Batard
They lost to a team that fired its coach nine games before the end of the season. And here's the best part. Here's where I tell you, here's where I knew I was doomed. This was the sinking feeling. We've been here, right? Jamal Murray and Jokic are over nine nuggets up by three. When he talks about role players on this one, do you realize. And not enough people will be talking about Buddy Healed and not enough. Enough people will be talking about what Jeremy's talking about, which is a precision in the sport that has made it so that there are a lot of three point shooters who can really change the outcome of how teams are seen long term.
Stugotz
To Jeremy's point, if Dylan Brooks has the game that Buddy Heald had last night, Houston wins that game.
Dan Le Batard
Correct. But it's. Look, we can drop that ingredient in any NBA game and the analysis afterward will still be about toughness and whatever the things are. But what I did want to say to you, that comes from the old analysis, simplified. We've been saying for a long time that role players or trade deadline pieces are what win championships. And I have not agreed with that for the longest time. I've always thought that superstars and monster talents do that, and it's not about George Hill. But the superstars have gotten so good, and the people next to them have gotten so good at the threes that Steve Kerr is yelling at Buddy Heald. Buddy, you stop dribbling. Steph's over there. He's better at this than you are. Yeah, most nights. But every once in a while, in a hundred shots, it'll be, Buddy Heald is the one who makes the threes. And now, again, small sample sizes, right? So before that series, you know what the key to that series was? Through six games, I could say the key that Pirate Stephen Adams, he was plus 53 when he was on the court, minus 39 when he wasn't. He played a bunch of minutes last night. Minus nine. Why Buddy Heald. Yep, that's why. Because Buddy Heald is raining threes. And I ask a couple of questions about Buddy Heald as I really want to celebrate him today for real. Not everyone should be talking about Buddy Hield and then we won't talk about it again. Who are the greatest athletes in the history of the Bahamas? I wish to know this because I want to know Buddy Heald's. I'd like to make Buddy Heald the star here. Deserves to be today because he carried basketball and we shouldn't be talking about. We should be talking about hockey. But Buddy Heel did something last night. We were all curious because we were waiting for Steph to do that.
Greg Cody
I think there are so few superstars, athletes from the Bahamas that Jazz Chisholm gets to be in the conversation.
Dan Le Batard
Top five, probably. I'd like a top five. I don't know if that is true, but we will find out momentarily. The thing that I wanted to say though, that is true about the analysis today. Now, Buddy Healing is a player and I keep getting told that whatever it is that James Harden is in game sevens and it's dreadful. Stu got. So it's just elimination games for James Harden. Like he just simply can't.
Stugotz
He gets eliminated.
Dan Le Batard
Yes, that's correct. Buddy Hield doing this on the road. It can be proven empirically that role players shrink. Game sevens on the road. On the road in general. But game sevens on the road, you cannot trust your role player. I believe that's a thing from the past. I believe the sharpshooting has gotten so good that we're going to see all of that analysis have to change in the face of. Nah, man. We all know any of these guys in this league now can make nine of 11 threes on a night and.
Jeremy
They can completely take the crowd out of it. That's what happened in Houston. Like when Golden State started going crazy early and it was Buddy healed in particular. By halfway through the second quarter, Houston was completely. Their crowd was completely out of the game. They knew what was happening to them and it eliminated home court advantage. So the little advantage that you might have from having that better regular season is annihilated by these role players going off that way.
Dan Le Batard
And it'll be more and more. The postseason is what everyone plays for because all you need is the. It doesn't matter whether you're a seven or two. If you could trade for Jimmy Butler and then just reign threes like it does. What difference does it make? You can give away the whole regular season and Draymond will be there in the playoffs when you need him to shut someone down in game seven.
Jeremy
Well, and that's where the depth comes into play, right? Because you need to be able to have enough guys that can get you through the regular season just to get to the post postseason. The warriors didn't want to be in the play in. They really wanted to be in the postseason because they risked the potential for injury, whether it was to Jimmy or anybody else. And so now they get to move on. But all of these teams are in this really precarious spot of how do we know that we're actually the better team? Because these. There are so many veterans that are not really giving their best effort through the regular season.
Dan Le Batard
What do you guys do with this? Rockets not named amen. Thompson shot 5 for 20 on layups in that game. Game. So if you make all of those, you ward off Buddy heel. I mean, we can do this analysis in ways that are funny, right? Because. But as you extend the game, right, because this part, I mean, God, this is one of the most interesting things that's happening in the evolution of human beings. Yeah. Stephen Adams, you can only take that body so far. All of that stuff so far. Here comes Buddy healed from three and everyone get out of the way. It doesn't matter. Imo. Don't go what you were doing all season.
Stugotz
He's making his shots.
Dan Le Batard
It does not matter.
Jeremy
Well, to the same point, right, if you look at at the Cavs on the other side in game one against the Pacers, they made nine threes. That's the first single digit three point game of the year for the Cavs. So they did that in game one on their home floor. It didn't matter that they were at home. Sometimes the role players aren't going to show up when you're facing a new opponent. And that's where you need moments from guys like TJ McConnell that are going to show up and give you a plus 15 performance in like 23 minutes all the time.
Dan Le Batard
My beloved Clippers were 32 and nine down the stretch.
Stugotz
Yeah. Now they're watching with me and you.
Dan Le Batard
First round exit. The last two years I've said that championship good. Those Clippers are. If they can just stay healthy.
Stugotz
Well, they did the healthiest they've ever been.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, my God. That's how they went 32 and 9 and I feel like an idiot. I believed. I mean, it's just an idiotic thing to say. I believed in the Clippers. Nobody says that.
Jeremy
If they were in the east, they could have won the conference.
Stugotz
Perhaps.
Dan Le Batard
Such a good team.
Jeremy
They're amazing.
Dan Le Batard
Such a good.
Jeremy
They're really so good, Dan.
Stugotz
Yeah, but no one thinks Boston's good.
Chris Cody
I have some athletes born in the Bahamas.
Greg Cody
Go ahead.
Chris Cody
Mikhail Thompson, Clay's dad.
Stugotz
Who?
Greg Cody
Michael.
Chris Cody
Michael and Freeney. Oh, no matter.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, that's. That's. It's just. That's. Yes, it's Anthony Hardaway. It's not. Knowing a player, he should know the spelling of his name because, Chris, you may have noticed, not much of a reader. Right. He doesn't read his father's columns. He's not. I don't. I don't imagine there are many books or magazines in the house. Do you think. Do you think Chris is a reader?
Greg Cody
He read over his best man speech.
Chris Cody
Like a million times.
Stugotz
Do you think Greg ever wrote a column about Michael Thompson?
Greg Cody
No would be the short answer there.
Dan Le Batard
Are you sure?
Greg Cody
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Chris Cody
Michael Thompson is from the Bahamas. Deandre Ayton is from the Bahamas. Buddy Heald, as we said. Jazz Chisholm, as we said. And Kimbo Slice. Oh, wow.
Greg Cody
Great.
Stugotz
Wow.
Greg Cody
Miami legend, RIP.
Dan Le Batard
Fifteen NBA teams have winning regular season records. The Clippers rank eighth. The Clippers are the only one of those 15 teams that haven't won a playoff series.
Stugotz
Yeah, you're Clippers.
Dan Le Batard
Jokic took that shot. And Aaron Gordon ruined me with a dunk at the rim at the buzzer. Do you know that I've watched basketball all my life without ever seeing a dunk at the rim at the buzzer?
Jeremy
I don't think it's ever happened in the history of the NBA.
Dan Le Batard
Do you know I have watched basketball the entirety of my life?
Stugotz
Well, it happened in college once, right? I have Lorenzo Charles.
Dan Le Batard
No, that wasn't a dunk. It was a. It was sort of a little layup on an air ball. Semantics. Is it semantics? Semantics.
Stugotz
I feel like you dunked it. Lorenzo Charles.
Dan Le Batard
I don't.
Stugotz
Well, I mean, Wittenberg put up the shot. I believe he was. It was a shot. It was not a pass. I don't want to hear about it. And then Lorenzo Charles happened to be there, and I think he slammed it home.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, can you guys see if you can find that in video? We can have the reveal now because he may have this, right? I did think he sort of just put the ball in, but we can then examine whether it is or it isn't a dunk. I don't think it was a dunk. It certainly wasn't an alley oop from Jokic falling out of bounds to Aaron Gordon to ruin me. It sure. That's not what it was.
Stugotz
Even though Aaron Gordon's was more of a dunk, I will give you that.
Dan Le Batard
Well, I do appreciate that. He slayed it. Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon. On that dunk. You. I will tell you that. This, that dunk. And I've been watching Aaron Gordon for three years, and if he's your fourth best player, I can win a championship. Sure, for three or four years. It's the reason I say Jokic is the best offensive thing I've ever seen. Gordon has done nothing but that for four years. He shoots threes, fine, but like, it's just. Oh, Yogic has the ball, everyone's scared. Alley oop, Gordon dunk. And it's like, that's an easy, fun way to play the game when you can be. Play with that guy and be more athletic than everyone else.
Jeremy
Orlando originally tried to make him their number one. That's who. The Orlando Magic.
Dan Le Batard
No, but. No. And when he was their number one, he was Tyler hero.
Chris Cody
He wasn't quite Tyler.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, okay.
Stugotz
He was a fantasy stud, though, I'll tell you.
Jeremy
Oh, my God, the stats. He would put up dunk champ. Oh, my God. 49 out of 50.
Dan Le Batard
That's what defeated me. Greg Cody, the hockey weekend, did it grab you?
Greg Cody
Oh, my gosh. I. I have to tell you. Yeah, okay. For me, I know we're talking about NBA and we should be, but for me, the biggest story nationally, including Canada, obviously, is the way Winnipeg won that game.
Billy
Nationally doesn't include Canada, but that's okay.
Greg Cody
I was exhausted last night. I was absolutely. I was exhausted from the weekend, emotionally, physically. I had to get to bed. But I'm watching the end of that Winnipeg game and they score to make it to pull within one goal. All right, there's five minutes left. I gotta finish watching. 1.6 seconds left. They tie it. A double overtime, they win. Winnipeg has never won a playoff game in their history. Last night was the Roy, they're series.
Dan Le Batard
They're good. Like they're. I was telling you during the regular season, you say you don't fear them and you're.
Greg Cody
No, I don't. Especially the way Conor Hellebuck played in the first period, giving up those two, two goals. But he ended up playing very well.
Billy
The rest of the stretch, and it.
Greg Cody
Was a miracle comeback by the Jets.
Chris Cody
I don't want to make this all about the Panthers, but watching the Blues those final couple minutes with a two goal lead, there was multiple times the puck is in the corner and they just let it get out. A couple times they have the puck with control and they dump it down panicky. That's where the Panthers shine. They. That puck gets in the corner, they keep it there for seven months. St. Louis couldn't keep the puck in the corner. There was way too many chances late for Winnipeg to equalize and they get just with like, I don't know how that pull puck ends up in front of the net with seconds left.
Dan Le Batard
Listen to me, listen to me. You guys need to pace yourself, okay? You need to pace yourself because the first 106 years of hockey, two goal comebacks in the third period in a game seven, three. Ever 106 years. Last two days, two. You guys need to slow your asses down and you don't understand that we're just still in the first round. And. And I need to stop hyperventilating about I fear win A and, and. And Roy, Roy, you. You need to settle everyone in the room down on. We're headed into another playoff series now and it's the second round and at the end of this, the last couple of years, if you think his body is battered from dancing too much at a wedding like these hockey playoffs have beaten up your old man.
Greg Cody
Yo. That's true. But we did get rid of the heat early. Remember?
Chris Cody
That's big for him.
Greg Cody
A couple of years in the past, you were rooting for that, juggling both teams.
Dan Le Batard
He was driving both places.
Greg Cody
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Dan Le Batard
He was driving between Panthers that are in the Everglades and the heat that are across the street. I tried to do that sort of yesterday to get to F1. It took me two hours and 52 minutes. Good God. I could have gotten to another hour.
Stugotz
To go before you get to my house.
Dan Le Batard
I could have gotten to Orlando. I could have gone to Disney World.
Chris Cody
I need to see that outfit.
Dan Le Batard
In the traffic it took me to get to F1. Getting. Driving very slowly to see cars drive very fast.
Billy
Were you driving like on? I was very confused because I was there too. We didn't run into each other, but like, did you take regular streets? I couldn't figure out what took so long because like Mike Malley went. He left at 3 and was there by 3:45. What happened?
Dan Le Batard
I had a driver that was taking us and he made a terrible mistake.
Chris Cody
And his money worth.
Billy
Oh yeah. Is he hourly? I mean that could be what was going on there. Old taxi cab situation.
Chris Cody
You know what I mean?
Billy
You run the clock.
Chris Cody
Whoopsie do.
Dan Le Batard
Well, you guys all know I can be suckered on these fronts.
Greg Cody
Yeah. Your helicopter wasn't working.
Dan Le Batard
I will remind. It wasn't. Although my wife was wanting one. My wife was craving.
Stugotz
She wanted the chopper, huh? Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Three hours. Three hours in traffic is.
Greg Cody
What kind did you dress better than last year.
Dan Le Batard
Well, no one will know if. No one. There was only one photograph. I only took one photograph there, so somebody's got it. It's a very valuable photograph. I was. I was getting French fries. Really?
Billy
How are the fries there, Dr. Everything's very overpriced.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, my God. $35 for garbanzos and fries? What?
Greg Cody
What?
Dan Le Batard
That whole thing is so vapid.
Stugotz
Where are you gonna go Once they got you there? Where are you gonna go?
Dan Le Batard
That is correct.
Greg Cody
But garbanzo beans with their fries. Yeah. The hell are you talking.
Chris Cody
Sounds nice.
Billy
Actually.
Chris Cody
I'm with Dan on this weird.
Billy
Complete.
Stugotz
Your protein ketchup.
Dan Le Batard
Buddy Healed was scoreless in game six.
Stugotz
So.
Greg Cody
Just warming up so is not.
Dan Le Batard
Really the reaction there. Stigma. I don't know what you think I was saying there.
Stugotz
It doesn't mean he's incapable of going 9 of 11 the next night.
Dan Le Batard
He's a shooter. I'm saying. Buddy Hill, I want you to absorb how we do basketball analysis, please. Golden State advance because they're tougher than Houston or whatever. Or whatever. Whatever it's going to be. I mean, these last games in basketball are tremendous. Are they not like what we're headed into? You are the teams you want to see playing against each other. It's the eight best of this, is it not?
Stugotz
I think most people would have taken Golden State in the Lakers and they're getting Golden State in Minnesota. It's still a great matchup.
Dan Le Batard
But.
Greg Cody
But I missed that. I miss LeBron not being okay.
Dan Le Batard
So that would have been. Yes. That would have been a better series than Minnesota Gold.
Stugotz
This is still good, though.
Chris Cody
No, Anthony Edwards is fine. I don't know.
Jeremy
I would argue that Anthony Edwards against these guys, against Steph and Jimmy and Draymond.
Dan Le Batard
Those attitudes better than Luke and LeBron.
Jeremy
Yeah, because. Because I think we all knew that Luca and LeBron was this sort of weird. It was almost this weird conglomeration of stars that didn't choose to be together, where it felt like this Butler, Curry, Draymond thing is one last ride for it. And now you have Anthony Edwards who's looking to take the throne from yet another Western Conference superstar. To me, those two attitudes of teams against each other is going to make for better television than an actual series between the Lakers and Warriors would have.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Local Hour: I Cry Your Pardon, Sir
Release Date: May 5, 2025
From the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and their panel delve into a lively discussion covering personal anecdotes, wedding festivities, and in-depth sports analysis. This episode, titled "I Cry Your Pardon, Sir," offers listeners a blend of humor, heartfelt moments, and sharp insights into the evolving landscape of professional sports.
The episode kicks off with light-hearted teasing among the hosts about Greg Cody's weekend antics. Greg humorously admits to dancing excessively at a wedding, leading to playful ribbing about his aching body.
Dan Le Batard [01:10]: "What a lovely way to start a Monday to come in here with Stugots and Greg and see Greg Cody talking about how much his body hurts because he may have danced a little too much this weekend."
Greg Cody [03:06]: "I cry your pardon, sir. Now go on with your show and leave me alone."
The conversation quickly shifts to the dynamics of parenting and the relief of seeing the youngest child grow independent.
The hosts delve into the highlights and behind-the-scenes of Michael Cody's wedding, focusing on Greg Cody's role as the best man.
Dan Le Batard [04:10]: "Tell me about the wedding. What hurts? Where does your body hurt? Why does it hurt?"
Chris Cody [05:12]: "I had to throw in some zingers."
The discussion takes a humorous turn as Greg and Chris dissect the content of the best man speech, particularly the jokes about Michael Cody's feet—a family running joke.
This segment is rich with familial banter, showcasing the camaraderie and inside jokes that define the group's interactions.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to sports, with a focus on basketball playoffs and the emerging importance of role players like Buddy Heald.
Dan Le Batard [16:34]: "Buddy healed had a game. Yeah."
Jeremy [25:22]: "It's the role players going off that way."
The hosts critique traditional sports analysis that centers on superstars, arguing that the current playoff climate highlights the decisive role of reliable role players who can change the game's outcome with consistent performance.
The conversation underscores a paradigm shift in sports strategy, emphasizing depth and versatility over individual star power.
Shifting from basketball, the hosts discuss the unexpected success of the Winnipeg Jets in the hockey playoffs.
They analyze key moments from the game, highlighting Winnipeg's comeback and strategic play that led to their advancement, marking a significant milestone for the team.
As the episode nears its end, the hosts engage in humorous exchanges about personal experiences and lingering sports discussions.
Dan Le Batard [39:05]: "Three hours in traffic is... That whole thing is so vapid."
Stugotz [40:36]: "He’s making his shots."
The episode wraps up with reflections on the day's discussions, blending humor with thoughtful insights, leaving listeners entertained and informed.
Shift in Sports Dynamics: The episode highlights a notable shift in professional sports where role players like Buddy Heald are becoming pivotal in determining playoff outcomes, challenging the traditional reliance on star players.
Humorous Family Insights: Through the lens of Greg and Chris Cody's experiences at a wedding, the hosts provide a window into familial relationships and the humor that binds them.
Unexpected Sports Outcomes: Winnipeg Jets' historic playoff win serves as a testament to the unpredictability of sports and the importance of strategic gameplay.
Engaging Host Interactions: The dynamic interplay between Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Greg, Chris, Billy, and Jeremy offers a blend of humor, sarcasm, and genuine camaraderie, making the episode both entertaining and insightful.
Dan Le Batard [05:04]: "What difference does it make? You can give away the whole regular season and Draymond will be there in the playoffs when you need him to shut someone down in game seven."
Greg Cody [16:12]: "He was concerned about particular words and how it would sound and what he should say, what he shouldn't say."
Chris Cody [15:58]: "I was very intentional. He doesn't want it played here."
These quotes encapsulate the essence of the discussions, blending strategic sports analysis with personal anecdotes and humor.
This episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz" offers a comprehensive blend of personal stories and sophisticated sports analysis, making it a must-listen for fans seeking both entertainment and depth.