Local Hour: In The Information Game

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Local Hour: In The Information Game

Episode Details:

• Title: Local Hour: In The Information Game
• Release Date: February 24, 2025
• Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
• Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
• Description: Dan Le Batard and Stugotz explore sports, pop culture, and local South Florida events, featuring segments like the “Local Hour” which delves into the South Florida scene.

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1. Introduction to Media Credibility and Information Integrity

The episode begins with a deep dive into the evolving landscape of sports media, focusing on the credibility and integrity of information dissemination within the industry.

Chris Cody ([02:11]):

"Why are you laughing?"

He raises concerns about the reliability of current media figures, questioning the trustworthiness of sources like Ben Ryder for CBS and the implications of Donis Haslam's statements about Kevin Durant’s potential move to the Miami Heat.

2. The Role of Gary Fuhrman in Miami Sports Journalism

A significant portion of the discussion centers around Gary Fuhrman, a seasoned sportswriter from the Miami Herald. Chris Cody criticizes Greg Cody’s remarks about Fuhrman, arguing that Fuhrman maintains higher journalistic standards compared to newer media personalities like Mike Ryan.

Chris Cody ([10:06]):

"Gary Furman has more journalism bona fides, traditional journalism bonafides, than Mike Ryan does."

Roy Bellamy ([12:11]):

"No, no, you're not right. I have known Gary Fuhrman, for decades, he's been a real survivor in this market doing a bunch of different stuff."

Roy defends Fuhrman's long-standing presence in the Miami sports media scene but clarifies that Fuhrman was not among the top-tier writers of his time.

3. Changing Practices in Sports Journalism

Dan Le Batard elaborates on his media company’s approach, emphasizing relationship-building over just breaking news. He underscores the importance of maintaining trust with sources, which sometimes means not being the first to report a story.

Dan Le Batard ([08:11]):

"Our approach is let's really build our company on how plugged in we are. Sometimes it's not totally advantageous for us to be breaking news because we maintain our relationships."

This philosophy contrasts with the fast-paced, often sensationalist nature of modern journalism, highlighting a commitment to thoroughness and accuracy.

4. Case Study: Hiring of Jay Lucas as UM’s Next Head Coach

The primary news topic discussed is the potential hiring of Jay Lucas as the next head coach for the University of Miami’s men’s basketball program. Dan defends the accuracy and integrity of their reporting, despite challenges from traditional media outlets.

Dan Le Batard ([14:03]):

"We had a very clear jump on this story. We had better information than anybody else."

He explains that their reporting was meticulous, ensuring all parties were aware of the impending news to avoid misinformation and maintain credibility.

5. Historical Context: Miami Herald’s Esteemed Sports Staff

The conversation delves into the history of the Miami Herald’s sports writing staff, with Roy and Chris reminiscing about notable journalists like Scott Price, Peter Richmond, Christine Brennan, Larry Dorman, and Grant Wall.

Roy Bellamy ([32:33]):

"The historic quality of the team is still an issue."

They discuss the legacy and contributions of these journalists, debating Fuhrman’s standing within that esteemed group.

Chris Cody ([36:17]):

"He's not a compiler."

He challenges Roy’s portrayal of Fuhrman, asserting that Fuhrman played a significant and versatile role at the Herald.

6. Reporting Practices: Don Lebatard’s Approach

Don Lebatard discusses his method of quietly breaking news, specifically regarding the FIU vs. UM football game. Chris Cody critiques this understated approach, questioning its alignment with traditional journalistic standards of confirmation and thoroughness.

Don Lebatard ([31:15]):

"I just put the news out there for others to, you know, absorb and potentially enjoy."

He emphasizes that his goal is to disseminate information without making it personal, though this method faces scrutiny from other hosts.

7. Debate on Backup Quarterbacks and Journalistic Integrity

A lighter yet contentious segment features a debate on the classification of notable backup quarterbacks like Steve Young and Tom Brady, intertwining with discussions about journalistic credibility.

Chris Cody ([38:02]):

"But he was the greatest backup ever. Steve Young to Joe Montana. Sat on the bench for a couple of years when everyone knew he was good enough to be one of the top five starters in the league."

Roy Bellamy ([38:24]):

"You can't call him a backup."

This playful yet sharp exchange underscores the broader themes of credibility and perception within both sports and media.

8. Conclusion: The Future of Sports Journalism

The episode concludes without a definitive resolution, leaving the audience to ponder the balance between maintaining journalistic integrity and adapting to the rapid changes in the media landscape. The hosts reflect on the necessity of trust and accurate reporting in sustaining credibility and fostering informed communities.

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Notable Quotes:

• Chris Cody ([02:11]):

  "Why are you laughing?"

• Chris Cody ([10:06]):

  "Gary Furman has more journalism bona fides, traditional journalism bonafides, than Mike Ryan does."

• Roy Bellamy ([12:11]):

  "No, no, you're not right. I have known Gary Fuhrman, for decades, he's been a real survivor in this market doing a bunch of different stuff."

• Dan Le Batard ([08:11]):

  "Our approach is let's really build our company on how plugged in we are. Sometimes it's not totally advantageous for us to be breaking news because we maintain our relationships."

• Chris Cody ([31:51]):

  "Bring back understated news gathering. Bring back."

• Dan Le Batard ([14:03]):

  "We had a very clear jump on this story. We had better information than anybody else."

This comprehensive summary captures the essence of the episode, highlighting the critical discussions about media credibility, the legacy of Miami sports journalism, and the challenges faced by modern sports information sources. The inclusion of notable quotes with timestamps provides authenticity and context, making the summary informative and engaging for both regular listeners and newcomers.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Roy Bellamy]

Shadow Show Shadow Show Shadow Show Shadow Show Shadow Show Shadow Show Shadow Show Shadow Show Shadow Show Shadow Show Shadow Show Shadowing it. Shadowing it.

[Chris Cody]

Craig this is probably something that I should be doing off air in private leadership meetings, but I haven't asked anybody who works here how they think Chris Cody, your son has been doing in the executive producer job. I'd like to do that now because of something that just happened that made me like sort of shake with how different the leadership is around here now. Now that he's been asserting his role. How do you guys feel? Roy, about how Chris Cody is doing being in charge, trying to grow into the role of Meadowlark executive.

[Mike Ryan]

Very well. I thought it was more to that question, actually. I know you're going to put more of a context to that question, but I think he's doing very well.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was quite the hesitation.

[Billy Corben]

Silence was.

[Ike]

Pause.

[Billy Corben]

Lasted 20 minutes for me.

[Chris Cody]

Roy, I don't know what's happened with you lately, but, okay, even when I'm starting a sentence with Roy and then there's a sentence, your genuine surprise that I'm going to you leaves you in a position where it seems like you said my name. Dan, you have no idea what to say. And it's the opposite of what the job is. When I start a sentence with Roy, xyz. No. All you have to do is be ready for whatever that moment is. And it's rarely. I don't do this with anybody else. I'm not going around Billy. And then this, this, this I'm just looking at with you. I'm going directly at you, and you seem like you're not ready.

[Mike Ryan]

No, I knew you were going to me because you said my name, but I was expecting more to the question. And I was listening to the question, like, there's nothing more to this. Okay, I better answer this now, in.

[Don Lebatard]

Fairness, like, Roy probably didn't wake up thinking he was going to be doing employee reviews for his coworkers.

[Chris Cody]

That is a good point by you, but the reason I'm bringing it up, the reason is Greg didn't even hear this. As the door closed to whatever Monday promises, the last thing that Chris Cody Leader said into the room was, also, I'm starting the show with a sleep farting song. That's the last thing I heard from your son's leadership. He said he was scared the first six months doing this, but now he's eased into the role.

[Roy Bellamy]

That's leadership.

[Billy Corben]

Thank you, dad.

[Roy Bellamy]

No, it is. You know, I mean, sleep farting was brought up last week. He immediately got a song. It's a beauty.

[Don Lebatard]

This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.

[Dan Le Batard]

There have been some bad days for your wife, huh?

[Chris Cody]

Yes. Yes, Agreed. I've learned recently that I'm a sleep farter. I didn't know that because I'm a sleep farter.

[Dan Le Batard]

He does a good job of eating.

[Chris Cody]

For his blood type. He loves cheese fries, but he can't have them now. He's got a good wife stuck in his Dutch oven. He's got them bad boys ripping all night.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dennis.

[Greg Cody]

Sleep.

[Chris Cody]

Fart. Sleep fart. We have to Be more mature than this.

[Roy Bellamy]

No, we don't.

[Chris Cody]

We can't be. We can't be funneling funds musically to that. That can't. But that can't be what we're doing with the media money. I want to ask Greg Cody because I'm thrilled that he's here. I'm always happy to see Greg Cody, lifelong friend, one of the longest friends I've had. Do not have many people like this in my life that have endured this long. He is a longtime journalist hanging on to the end of newspapers and the end of his longtime career, one of the longest in the history of the market. Why are you laughing?

[Roy Bellamy]

Just, you know, the whole idea of me hanging on, you know, by my fingernails. I'm over a ledge, but I'm clawing to keep from falling.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, so tell me how I have it wrong because I want to have a media conversation with you. As the media continues to change and Ben Ryder is over here for CBS saying Giannis Antetokounmpo is interested in the Miami Heat and watching the Miami Heat situation. And over here, you, Donis Haslam is saying on television come summertime, Kevin Durant is leaving Phoenix. Reporting is changing. Information is changing. The way that people dissect it and who they give credibility to is changing. And I saw over the weekend that Mike Ryan broke the University of Miami basketball story. And I want to talk about changing media in your time, Greg, because there are very few information brokers out there whose information you feel like you can trust. I can name them, right? The handful of insiders where you're like, yeah, okay, I can believe that. But I don't know what to believe anymore. Is Ben Ryder credible? Cuz he is to me. Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's been around for several years.

[Chris Cody]

I know, but what's. What are the measurements? If we're discrediting so much media, we're doing it larger outside of sports. But you assume you, Donna Haslam knows what he's talking about. If he goes on first take and tells you Kevin Durant is out, he's just, he's not Kendrick Perkins. He's not opining to get clicks.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I mean, you could look at the outside and say he might be. He's got his own content venture. He's never really broken stuff. Unlike Kendrick Perkins, there really isn't a resume that you can hold up his credibility. Ben Ryder has a certain credibility. I think you have to take all that stuff into account. It's dicey though. In today's day and age of aggregation where your name Won't go on a tile half the time.

[Chris Cody]

So, Greg, Mike Ryan has now been breaking stories in sports. Messi to Miami and he's inside the University of Miami machine and he's got a venture where he's an owner. So like there's, there's business being done here. He also is a booster for the schools and doesn't have any journalism rules that he feels like he needs to be applying, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

I do, I do. I like to correct people when they say I'm a journalist. No, I'm a media member. It's different. I don't necessarily have to adhere to the same type of rules because I'm a booster and I wear that conflict on my sleeve proudly. I will say though, like, while I had something to do with the overall reporting of this story, this was reported by Peter Ruiz from Cain's Insight. He was on this beat for several weeks saying that it was trending towards hiring Jay Lucas from Duke. When it came to the actual reporting of this, Kaine's Insight followed every single journalistic protocol, went over and above. Because there's sensitivities here with this specific hiring. Look, Duke and Miami still play this season. We're not to the ACC tournament yet. It's not often that you see this type of announcement when the other coaches on a staff that actually has title aspirations. So there's some sensitivities here and we were well aware of that. It became apparently clear that this story was going to get reported. We had already sat on it for quite some time. This was non invasive. We made sure that all the parties knew that this story was coming out when it was.

[Chris Cody]

The reason that I bring all of this up. Okay? It's inside the weeds on how you get your information, where you get your information. But before the show today, I heard the name Gary Furman the bag. No, no, Billy, that's not helpful. It's not Gary the bag. You know who the bag is. Don't pretend like you don't know who.

[Don Lebatard]

I don't know who Gary Ferman is.

[Chris Cody]

No, you don't know. You don't know who Gary Fuhrman is. And I'm about to tell you who Gary Furman is. Okay, Please find a photo of Gary Fuhrman for me. Gary Furman comes from the golden age of the Miami Herald sports section. When am I wrong here? When I say that Gary Fuhrman was one of the chief writers on a staff that would have been considered the best in America.

[Roy Bellamy]

No, no, you're not right. I have known Gary Fuhrman, for decades, he's been a real survivor in this market doing a bunch of different stuff. He was never one of the top tier writers at the Miami Herald.

[Chris Cody]

Okay.

[Roy Bellamy]

I'm just being honest. And if Gary were right here, I would. He would agree with me.

[Chris Cody]

Okay.

[Billy Corben]

But you were.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Forgive me. Let me still continue to be.

[Roy Bellamy]

Of course, the staff is only like seven people now, but still, I'm the king of a small.

[Chris Cody]

Are you right? Are you writing your own headlines?

[Roy Bellamy]

Yes, and my own cut lines. Yeah.

[Billy Corben]

Honestly though, the fact that it was just someone's job to only do headlines that probably could have always been.

[Chris Cody]

That wasn't the only job. It was also editorial judgment. You good. You did good learning at your, your father's career. You've done good learning. Let me tell you about Gary Furman for a though, because what Greg just did, he caught me entirely off guard. You would agree that that staff in general was among the best in America. Yes.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, my gosh. There were, there was about a five year period where we had Scott Price, Peter Richmond, Christine Brennan, Larry Dorman. It was an all star stat.

[Chris Cody]

Okay. These names aren't going to mean anything to people, but I've seen Brennan. The part, the part that I was Price, the part that I was not expecting is for Greg to take out Gary Furman's career that way. Because Gary was for many years, you know, one of the top 10 writers in a loaded sports section. You're calling him a second tier sportswriter is beside the point. What are you looking at me like that for?

[Roy Bellamy]

I don't know what to say. I don't mean to criticize Gary Furman. He worked at the Herald for a number of years.

[Chris Cody]

This is a credible person is my point. I want to make. I want, I want to make the journey from there to now on how news is being reported. Because Gary Furman has Mike Ryan off. And Gary Furman has more journalism bona fides, traditional journalism bonafides, than Mike Ryan does. And Mike Ryan is working in a compromised position. But what I think Gary Furman has done for the last 20 years is one of the most compromised positions I've seen in the history of South Florida sports media.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, okay, we're here. Now. What I didn't appreciate was Gary Furman saying that my company's reporting wasn't true when it 100% is. And look, we've had 48 hours now for all the parties involved to deny that this is actually the case. It's not. Jay Lucas is going to be the next head coach, Gary Fuhrman, continues to push on Kane Sport that this story is not true. No offer is out there, but if you actually click this story, he even admits that he is doing the current athletic department a favor by not reporting this. So, like, the headline is clickbaity, and it's going at someone's credibility who. Like, when I actually put the journalism hat on, I'm not wrong. I'm very credible. You mentioned Messi. We mentioned we broke the Mario Cristobal story over here. I say we. I did that. But like my credibility, you don't call that into question. It's fine if you don't have the scoop, but to come out and say that it's untrue when I know how sound this is and I know what my resume suggests. I wasn't a fan of that.

[Roy Bellamy]

No, and you're right. You have credentials. You're a true, um, insider who has inside sources. And I trust what you say regarding Hurricane sports, but this is standard operating procedure in journalism. If you don't break a story, if you get beat on a story, you try to impinge the quality of the. The story that beat you.

[Billy Corben]

That is true journalism.

[Roy Bellamy]

That's the. The way journalism operates. And I'll use a perfect example here. This hiring is not official yet. Okay? So that's what you say. If you get beat on the story. Okay, Nobody on either side wants this story to come out right now because they don't want to interrupt Duke's March Madness run. Okay?

[Dan Le Batard]

So that wasn't the report that. This is the. That this hiring is official. The report was Miami has selected its next head coach of the men's basketball program. It's going to be Jay Lucas.

[Roy Bellamy]

No. And that's 100% accurate. I was at the Inter Miami game the other night sitting next to Michelle Kaufman, who covers about three different major beats for the Herald. She's in the middle of an Inter Miami game texting Dan Radukovich and texting other sources about this story and revealing your sources. Oh, well, Radakovich is the. Is the Hurricane's athletic director. If you cover the Hurricane, yeah, he's going to be one of your sources. So, Radakova. I'm not saying anything out of school. Radakovich essentially texts her back and says, yeah, but it hasn't happened yet. There's no deal in place, blah, blah, blah, that kind of thing. So the story is real, but there are degrees. There are degrees of real.

[Chris Cody]

Chris, this is. Chris, you don't understand, okay? Because you're so busy making sleep, farting songs, you don't understand how to produce your father. And what has just happened is we have wandered, all of us together, into the glorious wheelhouse of Greg talking about journalism and the people in journalism and the end of newspapers and the end of information like the. You see it changing all over the place. And I am legitimately asking the audience, who are the people you actually trust on information? Because you're doing Cane Sport and Cane Insight. That's what we're talking about. You're talking about information like how does an entity build the kinds of credibility that it needs so that it can be in the new media age, something that competes beyond where the Miami Herald is. Because you're serving an audience that trusts you to actually be informed that the job is the way the media is changing and sports information changes. I'm genuinely curious people listening to this who love their college football information. Why do you go to Cane Insight instead of Cane Insight?

[Dan Le Batard]

Look, it was clear. We had a very clear jump on this story. We had better information than anybody else. We often have better information than everybody else. And do we go into news breaking mode all the time? No, our approach is let's really build our company on how plugged in we are sometimes it's not totally advantageous for us to be breaking news because we maintain our relationships. This became pretty evident to us. And I understand where Dane Radikovich is coming from because it's a little complicated. If this gets out, it was going to come out. So do you want some slap dick to report it or do you want to actually let the people that have known this story for 48 hours come out non invasively, make sure everybody, everybody's all right and go out there and do it. And that's what we decided for the better of our company. And we did everything right from a journalism standpoint.

[Chris Cody]

Slap dick. Underrated as an insult. I haven't heard it in a while.

[Billy Corben]

He nailed it though. The definition according to Urban Dictionary, someone who doesn't know what the hell they're doing or what is going on. An idiot who never knows anything.

[Chris Cody]

All right, so I mean, slap dick. I just hadn't heard that in a really long time. And I don't even know what it actually means, even though he just defined it for me. Is it someone who is slapping like what is. What is? I know what an ass wipe is. You call somebody an ass wife. I know what an ass.

[Dan Le Batard]

Coincidentally, the AP did report it about an hour after.

[Roy Bellamy]

Well, see, that's the thing about news that's the thing about breaking news. You can break it, but then it's immediately out there for everybody and it's there for other news sites to shoot holes through.

[Chris Cody]

It's so stupid.

[Roy Bellamy]

It's up for, you know, everybody immediately vets it. Is it true? Is it not true?

[Chris Cody]

It's so stupid. Who got it first? I knew it first.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, it's crazy.

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[Roy Bellamy]

What do we got here? I got a magnum condom. We won't get that out.

[Chris Cody]

That's shocking.

[Roy Bellamy]

St Here's a picture of Christopher when he was like three years old.

[Chris Cody]

Right next to the condom.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Never forget, this is the D. Levitar.

[Don Lebatard]

Show with his two guards.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, what I don't like is the same thing that happened with the Cristobal stuff, which is, you know, the main national writers like the Pete Thamels of the world. Even you can lump in a Gary Fuhrman of the world. We confirm this on multiple fronts. Multiple fronts. And they just Go to the athletic department and say, hey, is this true? And you'll get an answer which is like, yeah, kind of. But the timing's not right. It's not official yet. And they'll just run with that as opposed to as first reported by Keynes Insight. Because now we're 48, 48 hours into this thing. Nobody's denied this. This is the case. The reporting is sound.

[Billy Corben]

This hasn't been confirmed yet.

[Chris Cody]

You won't believe it until Furman's reported it.

[Billy Corben]

He should have that. This, this, this story. Confirming it is a good move.

[Roy Bellamy]

Not bad.

[Chris Cody]

That's a better way to handle. If you get beat on a story to come out. George, look, there's another lane here. You don't have to be the first one. You could just come back and then if you've confirmed it, then that story is solid it. Because you saying the Associated Press then reported it an hour later. So it's basically just a bunch of people whispering in the information game, just whispering to each other. How do we do this? You want to do this correctly? I know. Before you know it, everyone, are we going to hold this? You don't want to hurt the program.

[Dan Le Batard]

Don't want to hurt the program. Don't want to hurt Jay Lucas, who's got his life. You don't want. You want to avoid what happened with John Schier press conference, which is facetiously, or what have you saying. Well, this is the first that I'm hearing about it. There are sensitivities here that you understand, which is why you make sure you have all your loose ends tied up before you run with a storyline.

[Chris Cody]

Can I stop you for just a second? And Billy, I don't know how interested you are in getting into the weeds on this because you, I think, you know, you have this weekend. You again did something silently in the shadows because you do your journalism a little more quietly at fiu. And so I want to get into some of what you did quietly your last three events. You've gone.

[Don Lebatard]

I thought you meant the news I broke.

[Chris Cody]

Very little.

[Don Lebatard]

You don't even know because it was quiet. News breaking.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Don Lebatard]

We'll get to Tony described as dry.

[Ike]

It was super dry. Like ChatGPT wrote that tweet like, Jesus.

[Chris Cody]

Christ, we've got some salsa.

[Ike]

Put some sassong.

[Don Lebatard]

It's a dangerous game that I was playing because I was expecting a talking to when I got there. It's hard to break some news about someone that you're then going to go do a service for later in the Day, you know.

[Chris Cody]

Well, this is why I want to talk about the navigation of this, which.

[Don Lebatard]

They didn't tell me. So everyone knew but me.

[Ike]

The check cleared though, right?

[Don Lebatard]

I don't think so.

[Chris Cody]

That's not.

[Billy Corben]

Again, silence.

[Don Lebatard]

That's not really gotten paid.

[Chris Cody]

That's not really the journalism standard. Did the check clear. Is not the way some of this stuff.

[Don Lebatard]

No.

[Chris Cody]

For the game supposed to be done. But when you're navigating compromises, you guys do understand the difference in how we're doing all of this. When it sounded like Mike has carved out a position for himself where he can say, I have to do what's best for the program. And that's not compromised because he's only going to give you the information. He's going to have better information, but he's also going to serve in protection of the program. When he says, I can't break that and harm the program. Greg Cody could have and would have if he had gotten it.

[Dan Le Batard]

No doubt.

[Roy Bellamy]

It is a different world, anyone with.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Herald, different standards.

[Roy Bellamy]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

And we wear the biases on our sleeve. And you can say that's not traditional media, traditional journalism. And you would be absolutely right. Don't necessarily pretend to. When we do venture out with a report, I like to think you take our credibility into account and you can parse through that stuff. But it. It does require more of the consumer.

[Chris Cody]

Greg, if I can, as someone who has watched here in South Florida locally, what was the greatest of basketball times. Jim Laranega. I was really wrong on him. I thought he was coming down here to retire. I thought he was old when he got here. He did. Yeah. But it took him a long time. It took him. I thought he was coming to take a cushy job at the end of his career. And he resuscitated something and then at the very end, tripped over the finish line. And what was enormous momentum. There cannot be a greater fall. I haven't been tracking all of college basketball than where Miami was for that brief moment to what it is they are this season. When you're like, my God, the wheels just blew off of everything.

[Dan Le Batard]

Without sanctions, it's hard to find a comp.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, like, it's where you're just like, ooh, they took all of that momentum and did nothing with it. And not. Not only that, they're now terrible, awful. And so is this a good job? It's a rebuilding job. And what you've gotten is a coach who's a great recruiter, which right now is the game. Right. Like it's the entirety of the game.

[Dan Le Batard]

You got to have X's and O's as Laraniga. Look, Laroniga succeeded at the very beginning of the NIL era. We brought in a lot of talent via transfer portal and he had a lot of success with X's and O's with guys. Look, he did it with all Big 12 point guard in Nigel Pack, but he also did it with a guy in Charlie Moore who is just a national journeyman. I do think X's and O's matter. It's a delicate balance and I think you can in this upcoming hire, while Jay Lucas is a. A proven recruiter. You can question the X's and O's.

[Chris Cody]

And that's fine, but it doesn't matter. Miami is now banking on. You can question the X's and O's in all of the places where it's investing and spending. Crystal ball is you. Yeah, you can question the X's and O's. That's not what it's going to be about here. It's going to be about can you buy yourself into the game. They just did that Miami team a couple of years ago. You. I mean, it went further than any ever has. And when you're watching it, you're like, oh, that's championship good from the start of the season. You see it on the court. It's just so rare to have that fall apart the way that it did on Laranega at the end. Billy, can we get to your sound from fiu? What did you do this weekend and why do you continue to do these.

[Don Lebatard]

Things so quietly this weekend in terms of what the FIU broadcast?

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Don Lebatard]

Oh, I don't know. I mean, I also did some reporting. We're talking doing a reporting show today. Rematch over. Well, because I don't know what we're doing. Big rematch. FIU is going to be hosting the University of Miami at Marlins park again, or Lone Depot park this time at baseball.

[Chris Cody]

Dan, a huge breaking story.

[Don Lebatard]

Yeah. Well, the last time they faced each other, FIU football defeated UM football 30 to 26.

[Chris Cody]

And they've never gotten together since. And it was the most glorious moment in PAW history.

[Don Lebatard]

Yeah. Yes. Panther history. Yeah, it was. It was a great moment. Unfortunately, they went on to lose, I think the two games that followed, and all momentum was lost. But that night, what a magical night it was. And we're going to relive that night.

[Chris Cody]

We're not doing. But we're not.

[Don Lebatard]

We're not baseball.

[Chris Cody]

We're not doing. When FIU Baseball plays against, um, we're just doing football and basketball. Or had they not played in baseball since then, either?

[Don Lebatard]

They play in baseball almost every year.

[Chris Cody]

Okay.

[Don Lebatard]

Just not at Lone Depot Park. Former side of the Orange bowl historic land. I don't know if you know this, Dan. A lot of history happened at that site.

[Ike]

I want to break down Billy's tweet for a second, because, again, I. I think Chat GPT wrote it.

[Don Lebatard]

I don't even know how to use Chat gbt. I'm authentic, bitch. That seemed unnecessary. I was gonna go, baby. And then there was a late pivot there at the end, and I was like, that. That didn't.

[Chris Cody]

Caught up in the air.

[Ike]

It happened, you know, it happens. It happens. That showbiz, baby. All right, so the issue is this, right? If we can pull up, if we can find the tweet somewhere, Billy, you got to go breaking all caps.

[Don Lebatard]

Yeah, right.

[Ike]

You went breaking all cap, big B. Everything else small. So you kind of read it quick, and it's like, ah, this is kind of boring. I don't care. The breaking news with all caps is like, whoa, wait a second.

[Chris Cody]

So Tony, you're telling him he's got to put some spice on it. He doesn't know how to properly.

[Don Lebatard]

I meant to put a picture in it, too, of the football. Is going to be the football game after you celebrate on the field. Yeah, because that'd be funny.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, my God.

[Ike]

See, that would have given it some life.

[Don Lebatard]

All right, so.

[Chris Cody]

So did you get. Did you get in trouble with anybody? Because you. You broke this news, and they weren't prepared yet to have it broken As a baseball broadcaster for the team.

[Don Lebatard]

Well, I was broadc. That's my first game. I was broadcasting for the game was that night. So I was like, is this going to cause a problem for me later on today? Like, may. May this be a situation where I arrive and they say, no, thank you, sir. You can go home now. What are you doing out there? Because they. They didn't tell me this information. Once I got there, I found out, obviously, this has been in the works for quite some time. And they all knew this was happening, minus me. No one told me. But what I'm saying, I think for just this. This precise reason.

[Chris Cody]

What. But what I'm telling you is I can't believe that you can occupy a lane that I don't see being occupied by anyone in the sports information.

[Don Lebatard]

George Richards does. What I do.

[Chris Cody]

No, no, here's where. No, here's. Here's. It's not confirming you very quietly, sheepishly breaking news by just giving.

[Don Lebatard]

Well, the story's not about me, Dan. Stories. The story. You know what I mean? I just. My. My service to society is just put the information out there for others to, you know, absorb and potentially enjoy. But the information, I'm not. It's not about me. That's not what I did, Billy. No, I put it out there. Some people know. Yeah, it's available now, I think. Maybe. I'm not sure. I didn't report on that portion of it.

[Chris Cody]

Greg, are you not admiring? I. No one is taking the understated news breaking. Lane, put the tweet up here so that Greg Cody can read the tweet. This reads on X like an Associated Press report. Yes, like, this is.

[Don Lebatard]

Well, my Argentinian journalism teacher told me, you know, don't make the story about you. Make the story the story. And that's what I did.

[Roy Bellamy]

That's a Tim Reynolds lead right there.

[Chris Cody]

And there it is.

[Don Lebatard]

Thank you.

[Chris Cody]

Tim Reynolds is the Associated Press. Why are you taking out Tim Reynolds?

[Don Lebatard]

Yeah, what are we doing here?

[Roy Bellamy]

Tim Reynolds is great, but AP is known for a very rudimentary, just the fact style.

[Don Lebatard]

Wow.

[Ike]

Rudimentary.

[Billy Corben]

That was rudimentary.

[Dan Le Batard]

Basically known for not calling things by their name.

[Roy Bellamy]

Can I. The elephant in the room is this, and no offense to Billy, it's great. If you're covering fiu, it's great to.

[Don Lebatard]

Have.

[Roy Bellamy]

Put it on the poll. Can it be a big story if it involves college baseball?

[Don Lebatard]

I mean, we just spent 20 minutes talking about college basketball.

[Roy Bellamy]

I know, but college basketball is. Is up here, and baseball is down here. FIU Baseball never been huge. Um, baseball stopped being huge a few years ago and still trying to get back up.

[Don Lebatard]

So what should we talk about? The Lobos?

[Roy Bellamy]

Well, you know, I mean, that's an international brand, you know.

[Don Lebatard]

What brand?

[Roy Bellamy]

You know, an international brand? The Lobos. Greg's Lobos. No, it's a big story, but my ears perked because if UM and FIU are playing in football again at Marlins park, it's like, wow, Greg, great story.

[Chris Cody]

I understand. All right, look, I understand that you're the content king, and you've got all the judgment about what we should be talking about in the local hour on a Monday.

[Roy Bellamy]

Thank you.

[Chris Cody]

A University of Miami basketball team. Hiring a coach is a legitimate.

[Don Lebatard]

Well, not hiring. Being interested in a coach.

[Roy Bellamy]

Well, no, that's a story.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, he's the coach.

[Roy Bellamy]

No, that's the story.

[Chris Cody]

Well, wait. Wait till it's confirming. You gotta. You gotta wait. I gotta. I Have to know. Because Mike's gone from happen to know was the strongest. And then we upgraded it last week. And just earlier in today's segment, he just hit us with. With what my resume suggests. What my resume suggests I think is beyond. I happen to know. And I'm saying this with whatever. What was the next layer of this true conviction, the other upgrade to happen to know. I don't remember what it was, but Mike Bryan is now saying what my resume suggests when it comes to his reporting.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, it'll happen.

[Roy Bellamy]

I mean, there's no question about it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I aspire to be right all the time. Usually am.

[Chris Cody]

You are right on the pal. You know, this is so this part. Okay. And Billy is right to get out there with just the facts. This part is scary. You don't like. You don't like to get that stuff wrong. You don't. You don't. You get it wrong one time.

[Dan Le Batard]

Apparently likes to.

[Chris Cody]

You get it wrong one time and you shoot your credibility if you get it wrong one time. And so a lot of people don't like the pressure of that. I don't.

[Roy Bellamy]

Because if you get it wrong one time, everybody else is mocking you right. For how wrong you are.

[Dan Le Batard]

Gary Fuhrman reported Jon Gruden to the U, and anytime he reports anything, it's in the comments.

[Billy Corben]

Let's not forget about my report that we're still waiting to see if the Bengals and Dolphins play in Spain, because that's what my sources are saying. Once the schedule comes out, it might be one for one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's get everybody involved. Roy, do you have a timeline for Matthew Kachow?

[Mike Ryan]

Chuck Palmeri says he's gonna return this year, but we don't have a timeline yet.

[Billy Corben]

Hopefully before the play this year.

[Chris Cody]

Jesus.

[Don Lebatard]

Isn't your thing the slow report, like. But this one is like a very rapid, fast report that you've reported well before anyone else. And it hasn't. That was me that was not on yet.

[Billy Corben]

Like, there's the slow report and then there's me when I get out there. That is a real report.

[Don Lebatard]

What date is this game? Because no one can tell me the date of this game.

[Billy Corben]

I asked.

[Don Lebatard]

Like, they don't want fans in Spain.

[Billy Corben]

They don't know yet.

[Stugotz]

They don't know yet.

[Billy Corben]

No, they don't.

[Chris Cody]

Impossible Isn't confirming just another form of the slow report. If you're saying that the story's already out there, but it's not. It's not until he's reported it. And that makes confirming the end all be all Point. Are you guys alleging that confirming is now the new slow report? Because Greg Cody is now. I'm telling you, he's just triggered a decades old Miami Herald feud that only like 14 people are still alive to care about. He just took out. I'm not going to say Gary Furman's a Miami journalism legend, but he was one of the best writers on one of the best staffs.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like legend.

[Chris Cody]

One of the best writers on what? You say he's a legend and he is.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's a legend in that he's been around for a very long time.

[Roy Bellamy]

He's covering things endured in this market to mix.

[Chris Cody]

It's not. He's not a compiler.

[Roy Bellamy]

What did he do with the Herald? What did he write? What did he cover? Do you remember?

[Chris Cody]

He's not a compiler.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's what I'll say about Gary. He's always been around.

[Chris Cody]

Craig?

[Don Lebatard]

Yeah.

[Roy Bellamy]

What did he cover?

[Chris Cody]

You remember, Greg? Why are you.

[Roy Bellamy]

How memorable was it for you? What did he cover?

[Chris Cody]

Why?

[Roy Bellamy]

Remember Greg?

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you remember?

[Chris Cody]

No, Greg, he covered.

[Roy Bellamy]

That's my point, Greg.

[Chris Cody]

He covered the University of Florida. He covered a lot of college baseball. He covered the University of Miami as one of the secondary beat writers when that was one of the biggest beats in town. You're one of.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah. He backed up Jim Marshall for a couple of years for sure. FAL al on the prowl. If there's more than one.

[Dan Le Batard]

If there's more than one secondary beat writer. Are you. Can you consider yourself Pope?

[Don Lebatard]

Was your mentor?

[Dan Le Batard]

A secondary.

[Roy Bellamy]

He's my major mentor.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is he a mentor? Major. If there's more than one. You can't be secondary mentor. Yeah. There can't be four secondary beat writers.

[Roy Bellamy]

Right.

[Chris Cody]

Gary Furman backed up a couple of very important beats. He was an all purpose guy. He was somebody who was top 10 on the names on the sports writers who worked for it.

[Dan Le Batard]

You took a shot at my credibility.

[Chris Cody]

So yes or no, who's the best backup quarterback ever?

[Roy Bellamy]

Top 10 on the staff.

[Chris Cody]

On that staff.

[Roy Bellamy]

Maybe he was for a time.

[Billy Corben]

Trent Green.

[Ike]

You have Trent Green, backup qb.

[Roy Bellamy]

You know, pigeon homie is criticizing Gary Furman. I just think a little bit less of his career than you seem to.

[Dan Le Batard]

Gerbach.

[Chris Cody]

How many years did he work at the Miami Herald?

[Roy Bellamy]

I have no idea.

[Chris Cody]

Take a guess. I'm gonna guess 10 years, including part time. If you work 10 years at a newspaper, is that not enough to give you some credibility?

[Dan Le Batard]

No doubt, no doubt. Is Steve Young a backup quarterback or was that always like the plan?

[Billy Corben]

I mean, I guess Brady Was a backup.

[Ike]

Aaron Rodgers, backup quarterback?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Like, it felt like they acquired Steve Young, who got off to a rocky start in Tampa Bay to one day be the guy. So to call him like one of the great backups, like this. This is a guy that was drafted high. I wouldn't do that well.

[Chris Cody]

But he was the greatest backup ever. Steve Young to Joe Montana. Sat on the bench for a couple of years when everyone knew he was good enough to be one of the top five starters in the league.

[Billy Corben]

Not a backup.

[Chris Cody]

Not a backup. He would be universally considered the best quarterbacking backup that there has ever been.

[Billy Corben]

How would it not be, Brady, by your math?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Roy Bellamy]

You can't call him a backup.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, you can't. If you're acquiring a guy to one day replace a guy that's not really backup, we're talking like Scott Tolzie.

[Chris Cody]

But this and Steve Young at USFO wanted him like everybody. He was a can't miss player. And it didn't even make sense that he was backing up Joe.

[Dan Le Batard]

Therefore, you cannot be one of the great backups because that.

[Roy Bellamy]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's not your story.

[Roy Bellamy]

Right. I get my backup. When you talk about him being a backup, nobody thinks of Steve Young as a backup quarterback. Nobody. He's in the hall of Fame.

[Chris Cody]

That is correct. But when he. He was a backup two or three years to Joe Montana. When Chris is bringing up Tom Brady. Tom Brady wasn't a backup.

[Don Lebatard]

Tom.

[Chris Cody]

What were me.

[Greg Cody]

He was Drew Bledso.

[Don Lebatard]

But Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you, Billy.

[Ike]

Steve Martin also.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's a C. That's a Steve Young and Morton classification. We're talking about Earl Morrow.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, yeah, Earl Morrow. The crew cut. Don. What's his name?

[Greg Cody]

Strock.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah. Don Stro.

[Mike Ryan]

Don what's his name?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, that's a good job. The legendary expertise of Greg Cody. Pick up my boy, Don what's his name.

[Roy Bellamy]

It took me a minute. Yeah, we love Don Strock.

[Chris Cody]

That's okay. It's quite all right.

[Roy Bellamy]

Another FIU guy.

[Don Lebatard]

Yeah.

[Billy Corben]

This took out Gary Furman.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Don Lebatard]

Why did you guys wake up today to fight with Gary Furman?

[Dan Le Batard]

We did not take out Gary.

[Billy Corben]

No, my dad did.

[Roy Bellamy]

I didn't.

[Chris Cody]

You keep. You keep.

[Don Lebatard]

You said.

[Billy Corben]

Do you remember anything he wrote?

[Chris Cody]

Craig True first blow.

[Mike Ryan]

Jeff Hotler.

[Chris Cody]

Greg. Greg.

[Roy Bellamy]

He was a jack of all trades on the Herald sports staff. He covered high schools, he covered this, he covered that. He covered that. I don't think of Gary Fuhrman sitting right here. I'm going to insult him by saying you would warrant one of the big Stars on the Herald Sports Statler won a Super Bowl.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, is it Nick Foles?

[Chris Cody]

Nick Foles.

[Dan Le Batard]

There it is.

[Billy Corben]

Nick Foles.

[Chris Cody]

Tom Brady doesn't count as a backup. Doesn't count.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nick folks does, though. Nick Foles has a statue.

[Chris Cody]

Tom Brady was his rookie year and he only threw one touchdown pass. You didn't know at the time that he was a special backup. Even when they won the super bowl, you didn't know if he could play quarterback. Well, for them. He was just.

[Billy Corben]

Wouldn't that make it more.

[Dan Le Batard]

That makes him more of a backup?

[Billy Corben]

Your argument that Steve Young was like this big prospect, that makes him less of a backup.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is a good shout. He didn't have sustained excellence as a backup because he was so good as a starter. This has to be a guy that was like, backup is my job and identity for a decade plus.

[Billy Corben]

Nichols.

[Chris Cody]

I don't understand how it is that Greg Cody doesn't think that he's taking out Gary Fuhrman. Because I'm gonna. I don't think that Greg knows the weight. Okay. Of his.

[Billy Corben]

How are you making fat jokes?

[Chris Cody]

No. Of his old.

[Don Lebatard]

Dan, Dan, come on, man.

[Stugotz]

It's Monday morning.

[Chris Cody]

I don't think Greg Cody knows the weight of his old man. Columnist wags a finger at colleague because he jarred me the other day when he just said of Billy Corbyn, that guy's a jackass on the air. And when he says of Gary Fuhrman something that sounds disrespectful to me as a colleague who was your peer for a while, you're very.

[Roy Bellamy]

Colleague.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, Come on.

[Chris Cody]

You. This is as harsh as I've heard. This is as harsh as I've heard you be ever about a colleague, a fellow writer. I can't think of somebody you've ever talked about this way publicly.

[Roy Bellamy]

Okay, first of all, I'm a very honest person. When I call Billy Corbyn a jackass, what I mean is he's been a jackass to me. He doesn't like me. He criticizes me all the time. And the feeling is quite mutual. In the case of Gary Furman, he. The first thing I said was, he has been a survivor in this market, and I give him credit for it. He's done a little bit of everything. He was the PR guy for the. The Honda Classic up in Palm beach for years.

[Billy Corben]

Can I get four tickets?

[Roy Bellamy]

And. And so he's done a little bit of everything in this market. He's still going strong. I admire him. But I'm going to draw the Line. If you're trying to tell me he was one of the. The top star writers at the Miami Herald, he wasn't.

[Chris Cody]

Okay. I mean, he was a starter on a loaded team. Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's like a mental relief guy.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, he's just being. He's being. He's being disrespect.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't think so. I think. Look, you. You spoke for yourself there eloquently.

[Roy Bellamy]

Thank you.

[Dan Le Batard]

I am. I am not crossed on your message.

[Chris Cody]

Where do you put yourself on that staff, like, on the rankings since you've clearly done this? You've got tears of how good these people are.

[Roy Bellamy]

You named Tears of a club Smokey? Look, I. At that time, I was the guy looking up to all these stars. I wasn't. I was not Peter Richmond or S.L. price. Scott Price.

[Dan Le Batard]

You were molder, though. That was a great rotation. It was like, we have three number ones.

[Roy Bellamy]

No, it was terrific. It was absolutely. I'm blessed to have worked on one of the great writing staffs in the history of American newspapers. I wasn't the star at that time.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wall hanging around. Grant Wall was hanging around that Grant Wall was there.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look at that.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah. He's in the Furman category, though.

[Dan Le Batard]

Grant Wall.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah. Grant Wall was never.

[Don Lebatard]

He's not a routing defendant.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're just charging him on, like, what he did at the Herald. No, because Greenwald went on to become the greatest American soccer reporter.

[Chris Cody]

Love.

[Roy Bellamy]

Love. Loved him. No, he was never stopped.

[Dan Le Batard]

God rest his soul.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah. Rip.

[Chris Cody]

You thought better of doing what you were. Grant Wall was talking about the hair.

[Roy Bellamy]

I'm talking about at the Herald.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, it's very clear. Keep up.

[Don Lebatard]

Dan.

[Chris Cody]

Billy.

[Don Lebatard]

Hey.

[Chris Cody]

Bring back understated news gathering. Bring back.

[Don Lebatard]

I'm trying. By not talking about it. Just put the news out and moved on.

[Stugotz]

There's no guy.

[Don Lebatard]

Guys, guess what? Every day there's news. There's gonna be more news today.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yep.

[Don Lebatard]

I don't break it stories. Not about them. About the story. Snap it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'll tell you one person that won't be reporting it.

[Stugotz]

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