Local Hour: Inside Baseball

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz — Local Hour: Inside Baseball

Date: January 27, 2026
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
Notable Guests/Crew: Greg Cody, Chris Cody, Mike Ryan, Zaslow

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Episode Overview

Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, this "Local Hour" centers on two main themes: the inside baseball of media personalities—specifically the ongoing, playful beefs among Greg Cody, Dan Le Batard, and Zaslow—and a deep dive into recent dramatic shifts in college football, especially regarding athlete transfers and NIL deals. Laced with the show’s signature irreverence, the banter oscillates between self-deprecating media criticism, nostalgia, and sharp, nuanced sports commentary.

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Main Themes & Discussion Points

1. Greg Cody’s “Spicy” Mood and Internal Podcast Drama

• Greg Cody's Mood: The episode opens with the crew commenting on Greg Cody’s “spicy” demeanor. Greg’s self-professed podcast ego is “out of control,” stirring up playful confrontations.
  • “He’s got podcast ego that’s out of control, and so now he’s picking fights...” — Dan (00:57)
• Museum of Curiosities Segment: The panel lightly confronts Greg for abandoning fan-favorite segments (“show and tell” and “soups”). Despite Greg’s protests of feeling underappreciated, the consensus is that he simply stopped bringing content in.
  • “You just stopped bringing stuff in.” — Mike Ryan (02:52)
• Cody Family Dynamics: Chris Cody is needled about his role as the son who always has to mediate when Greg stirs controversy.

2. Greg Cody vs. Dan Le Batard: Hall of Fame Voting Beef

• The Trigger: The episode’s core argument is over Greg’s Hall of Fame ballot flip-flop on Andrew Jones and an old dismissive tweet.
  • “My problem is Dan LeBatard, of all people, who lost his vote in disgrace...being the guy who says I should lose my vote because I changed my mind...” — Greg Cody (09:23)
• Dan’s Critique: Dan and Chris challenge Greg for being sanctimonious in his prior dismissal of Andrew Jones’ candidacy and then changing his vote years later without full contrition.
• Notable Sound Clip [Starts 09:23]:
  • “Andrew Jones didn’t even spell his first name right, but... great defensive player.” — Greg Cody
  • “The gatekeeper comes in with that one, telling minorities how to spell their name.” — Dan (11:39)
  • Greg defends: “I’m prodding, I’m poking.”
• Refusal to Budge: Greg maintains his old tweet was “the truth at the time,” while Dan insists better voters at least express a willingness to reconsider.
  • “Just say, hey, that tweet…” — Chris Cody (15:41)
• Meta Comment:
  • “I love that I get to use this expression correctly. This is inside baseball.” — Unattributed (15:11)

3. Greg Cody vs. Zaslow: Personality Clash

• Origins of the Beef: Greg is accused of being “backhanded” and critical of Zaslow’s broadcasting style, describing it as Boisterous “New York radio guy” energy—which he says is not his taste (41:58 – 45:56).
  • “I don’t love his style of announcing or talking. … He’s the New York radio guy, the boisterous, over-the-top…” — Greg Cody (42:13/45:31)
• Zaslow Responds:
  • “Would you rather someone like me, Greg, care for you personally or care for you professionally?” — Zaslow (08:23)
  • Greg admits, “Obviously I’d like both, but can’t have everything.”
• Dan and Chris Stir the Pot: Chris points out the contradiction in Greg’s statements; Dan mocks the inherent pettiness.
  • “You said you don’t like his style talking ... and you did so through an assortment of coughs.” — Dan (43:35)
• Comedy of Contradiction: Greg’s stubborn style becomes its own punchline, compared to Larry David.
  • “My personality predates Curb Your Enthusiasm.” — Greg Cody (33:53)

4. College Football: NIL, Transfers, & The Miami Hurricanes

• Groundbreaking NIL Settlement:
  • Breaking news: Quarterback Darian Mensah settles with Duke, frees himself from NIL obligations, and is likely headed to the Miami Hurricanes (20:38 – 24:53).
  • “Darian Mensah is now free and clear to do what he pleases. This is, I believe, the first time an athlete has bought himself out of his NIL deal.” — Mike Ryan (21:30)
• Precedent & Speculation:
  • Dan and Mike riff on this new “Wild West” era of college sports, comparing Mensah’s move to Curt Flood’s historic precedent in pro sports labor rights.
    • “He might be viewed as Curt Flood in a couple of different respects...” — Mike Ryan (24:10)
    • “It is really fun precedent-setting chaos...” — Dan (26:31)
• Impact on Miami Football:
  • Panel discusses Miami's QB saga (from Cam Ward, to Carson Beck, to now likely Mensah), and how transfer and NIL chaos is shaping the ACC.
    • “The rich get richer in college football right now. And look at what Miami’s done...” — Greg Cody (27:34)
• Schedule & Mario Cristobal: The group discusses Miami’s quirky upcoming schedule, Cristobal’s dislike of Friday games, and the looming importance of the Notre Dame matchup (35:55 – 37:10).
  • “He’s got three Fridays and a Thursday this season, including opening the season across the country in Palo Alto for a primetime Friday game.” — Mike Ryan (36:12)

5. Miami’s Defensive Identity and Outlook for 2026

• Departing Talent: The challenge of replacing an elite pass rush is acknowledged, with potential new talent discussed, but Dan urges caution.
  • “While Mike can be as enthused as he likes about an assortment of five stars ... you cannot have the expectation yet that you’re the Georgia or Alabama defensive lines.” — Dan (37:10)
• Homerism vs. Realism: Mike stands by the defense’s potential, even as Dan roots the discussion in historic perspective.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Podcast Clips vs. Real Beef:
  • “Ripping Dan definitely does numbies.” — Chris Cody (03:55)
• On Changing Opinions in Sports:
  • “Why do you think that a number of players go eight or even 10 years without getting in? ... Dozens and dozens of voters ... change their mind.” — Greg Cody (13:36)
• Classic Cody Deflection:
  • “I know LeBatard very well. I know when he’s serious ... and he was serious when he said he thinks I should lose my vote.” — Greg Cody (09:53)
• Razor-sharp banter:
  • “You a gatekeeper on whether Andrew Jones should be in the Hall of Fame while telling him his name is spelled wrong and this tweet exists.” — Dan (11:59)
• Mike Ryan contextualizes NIL chaos:
  • “Darian Mensah is now free and clear to do what he pleases. ... I believe the first time an athlete has bought himself out of his NIL deal.” — Mike Ryan (21:30)
• On Sporting Precedents:
  • “He might be viewed as Curt Flood in a couple of different respects...” — Mike Ryan (24:10)
  • “It’s going to be straight business, straight cash, homie.” — Dan (26:31)
• Greg Cody as proto-Larry David:
  • “My personality predates Curb Your Enthusiasm.” — Greg Cody (33:53)

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Noteworthy Segments & Timestamps

• Greg Cody’s “spicy” arrival & show-and-tell debate: 00:30 – 03:00
• Greg Cody vs. Dan over Hall of Fame voting: 08:57 – 16:00
• Greg Cody vs. Zaslow: Style beef & on-air confrontation: 41:47 – 46:08 (with callbacks throughout)
• NIL & Darian Mensah transfer news, impact on Miami: 20:38 – 30:27
• Miami Hurricanes schedule preview & Cristobal’s schedule complaints: 35:55 – 37:10
• Replacing Miami’s defensive edge rushers (Bain, Mezador): 38:13 – 40:55

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Tone and Style

• The tone is quintessentially Le Batard—irreverent, snarky, self-deprecating, with surges of earnest sports expertise. Greg Cody’s stubbornness, Dan’s needling, and Zaslow’s wounded pride are played for humor but actually illuminate real personality dynamics in sports media.
• The sports analysis is sharp (“fun precedent-setting chaos”) but always filtered through a distinctly South Florida lens.

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Summary Takeaway

This Local Hour episode is a prime example of the Le Batard Show’s appeal: it’s a meta-sports radio sitcom, driven by personality clashes, inside jokes, and passionate but informed debate. The on-air feuds (Cody/Le Batard, Cody/Zaslow) are as much about showmanship as substance, but the episode also delivers timely, insightful commentary on how big money and NIL are turbocharging chaos in college football. Miami fans, and sports listeners in general, will find both a laugh and a lesson in how modern sports and media operate—sometimes uncomfortably close to each other.

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For more context and controversy, refer to these timestamps:

• [09:23] Greg Cody’s Hall of Fame voting “scandal”
• [21:30] Mike Ryan breaks NIL settlement news
• [33:53] Cody-Larry David humility contest
• [41:47] Greg Cody’s critique of Zaslow’s style

End of Summary

Transcript

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[Dan LeBatard]

Ooh, it was spicy in that room today. Greg Cody came in and Greg Cody has sat in his chair. Zaslo and his phone just pinged. And I just said, greg, that was your phone. Because he didn't look up, didn't seem to hear it, and he's like, I know, I know. Show hasn't started yet, buddy. Relax yourself.

[Zaslow]

Oh, that's because I walked in when he said, relax yourself. I didn't know what that was about, so.

[Dan LeBatard]

But that's just the end. You're just catching the tail end of the spicy. He's got something for you today. He's got something for me. He's got podcast ego that's out of control, and so now he's picking fights, he's looking for beefs, and he comes after you in a way that.

[Mike Ryan]

Me.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, yeah. He came after you.

[Greg Cody]

I wouldn't say that.

[Zaslow]

You feel like you're on that level. Chris Cody, people.

[Dan LeBatard]

Chris Cody, what. What would be your analysis? Do you believe that your dad. Did he or did he not come after me? Yes or no?

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Did he or did he not come after? Says yes. Okay, so did you think you were going to come here and do this quietly today?

[Greg Cody]

There's a big difference. I did come after you. I did not come after Zaz. I reacted to being questioned. I'll be the judge of that, Zaz. But there's a difference.

[Dan LeBatard]

Relax yourself.

[Greg Cody]

I love that phrase. I'm surprised it didn't make my top 50 catchphrase Countdown.

[Dan LeBatard]

What did? You don't know?

[Greg Cody]

No, no, I do know. You want me.

[Chris Cody]

He learned his lesson. He wrote it down.

[Dan LeBatard]

He wrote it down this week. Where are his artifacts from His. From his garage. Because I heard he was compl. At the bowling alley that not enough was made of his artifacts last week.

[Greg Cody]

Well, that's true, if I'm being honest. You know, if I'm gonna take the time to go through all my memorabilia and present a few things on the show, at least, you know, make a big deal out of them.

[Mike Ryan]

Greg, we did have that as A segment, and it died on your watch. You just stopped bringing stuff in.

[Greg Cody]

Well, because the first time I did it, it did not receive the.

[Mike Ryan]

What are you talking about? It was wildly popular show and tell with Greg Cody. You brought something in from the game room of curios. We were all like, this guy's weird. And then it just.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, all right, maybe I'll bring it back.

[Dan LeBatard]

No. And you know where, Mike, you know where? It went away last week because he's like, not enough was made of Mon Curios. Yeah, you stop talking about them. We kind of need you to present them, not just look at this fascinating media guide from 69 guys. It's a pamphlet. I got no other material other than that.

[Mike Ryan]

No, no, that's perfectly fine. I'm good with that.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you.

[Mike Ryan]

You just stop bringing stuff in.

[Greg Cody]

I know. I'll continue bringing stuff in.

[Mike Ryan]

Same with the soups.

[Dan LeBatard]

Where is it today? Where's your. Back at my day. It's Tuesday.

[Mike Ryan]

Do you have a soup?

[Greg Cody]

No, I don't have a soup.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast. Zaslow has burst onto this scene, Right. Very rarely has someone fit into our environment this seamlessly so quickly. But he's also getting very comfortable. And so I can see him now, feel him getting annoyed by Jeremy before the show a little bit. I can. I've known Zaslo a long time, and I can see what's happening now as all of these chemicals come together, led by Greg Cody, who is spicy today. And we're going to get to some of the sound from his podcast. Chris, can you give me some context, please? Why is he doing this? Like, what is it? Just to generate numbers in the modern age? Because the media has fallen apart and he needs to get his clicks, or is he legitimately mad at me and Zaslow now?

[Chris Cody]

Ripping Dan definitely does numbies. So I don't know where. How honest he's being, but he definitely ripped you. And do you want me to just give.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, no, no. I know. I don't want the context for what it is that he's done. I just want to understand what he's doing.

[Chris Cody]

I think he genuinely, you know, with him. He seemed genuinely upset about. With you. With Zaz. I just kind of asked him a question. He thought he was giving a compliment.

[Dan LeBatard]

Look, these two people have not liked it. These two people have not liked each other for 20 years, okay? This is the rare time for the last few months they're in the same room together. I don't. Would you have considered him a nemesis. Like, where would he have been in terms of the media people you feuded with? Charles Bricker. Where does he rank on the list? He's top 10.

[Zaslow]

And look at me in the eyes when you say he's top.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's top 10. Yes. What is he? What is he? That's a good ranking. Put that on your podcast instead of 50 catchphrases you don't have.

[Greg Cody]

I don't have 10 enemies. He might not even make that list. Okay. He's been critical of me and my column writing. I tend to be critical of people who are critical of me. And so it's sort of a yin yang thing. We're going back and forth.

[Chris Cody]

I will say what he did to Zaz would. Was more backhanded. I think he thinks he was being neutral with Zaz.

[Zaslow]

What he did to me. I'd like to hear what he did to me.

[Chris Cody]

We'll play.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think you.

[Chris Cody]

He went in intending to rip.

[Greg Cody]

I don't think he actually meant on both counts.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, so let's do this. Okay. Let's find out first, because I don't know why your father's mad at me. Let's find out first. Why are you annoyed with Jeremy? What's going on with him? Because he's. Trade deadline. Trade deadline. He won't shut up about everybody's being traded everywhere. And he's just. He's at one point, I look at him, he's playing a flute and. And a bugle, and, like, you just can't talk enough about the trade deadline. And we're like, still football, kid. Still football.

[Chris Cody]

Right?

[Zaslow]

Like, I wouldn't go as far as, say, Jeremy was being annoying. I wouldn't say that. But I will say one thing I've learned about Jeremy. He could talk. He can talk. And we're doing the Jeremy show out there today. Save it for the air. All right? Literally.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, don't save it for the air. I'm good. I'm good with it expiring out there and then never getting in.

[Zaslow]

But I got. I got a full episode of the Jeremy show.

[Dan LeBatard]

I know. We all did. We all do.

[Zaslow]

I'm trying to have my coffee, maybe have a bagel and cream cheese.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's every morning, it's aggressive. Mike comes in with the heavy metal music, and. And Jeremy starts talking to you. Not until your eyelids frost over. Like, okay.

[Chris Cody]

It's a nice remix. The death metal. And Jeremy.

[Dan LeBatard]

No. And. And today, though, today, Greg came in here. Spicy. First thing he said to me wasn't hello. Was respect yourself, because I'm telling him, oh, your phone might ding during the show because you weren't. Don't see.

[Greg Cody]

Relax yourself.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, that's a fine. Not every genre of metal is death metal, you amateurs.

[Dan LeBatard]

So I did do relax yourself and I said respect, I think by mistake. And it's in part because I think I have this right. Zaslo does not have any quibble with liking you. You're an extraordinarily likable person. But. But I do get the impression, and this is the place where it hurts Cody the most because Cody takes the great pride of identity of being a columnist. I'm not sure that Zsasz respects your opinion as a columnist, and I think that's the starting point. I don't think you dislike him. Greg's eminently likable.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, Zaz, be careful because what Dan just did has nothing to do with the Greg clip. He is just trying to further divide you.

[Zaslow]

Well, I mean, something's been put on the table here. I need to pick it up and respond.

[Mike Ryan]

Look at his face.

[Dan LeBatard]

He knows what he did. No, wait a minute. No, he knows what he did. Look, Greg. Yes, I'm telling you, this is why I'm smiling. No, this is why I'm smiling. I'm smiling because of what Zaz said, which is, no, you assholes. Let me pick up this bit of content that Dan has handed me because it's a good space, because I'm a good radio person, because I know what's interesting.

[Mike Ryan]

You're in a playpen right now. You love this.

[Zaslow]

If somebody puts my name on the street, I'm a responder and Dan's tell me my name was on the street. So here's what I got to say about that. For one, when I first started doing this show, I didn't know Greg Cody personally from a hole in the wall, alright? All I knew was the columns. Do I care for the columns? Well, when you're a kid and you read a column that says trade Dan Marino crushing your hopes and dreams as a little Dolphin fan, we're not off to a great start. But then, but then once I get to know him here in studio, I'm like, alright, this guy's not so bad, alright, this a nice man, as I suspected, by the way. There's a nice man, as I suspected. And now getting to know him, like, you know what? I actually, I think I do like him. Don't care for the column, but personal, which would you rather? Would you rather someone like Me, Greg care for you personally or care for you professionally?

[Greg Cody]

Obviously, I'd like both, but can't have everything. Listen, I don't care if somebody doesn't love my columns. Not everybody does.

[Zaslow]

That's right.

[Greg Cody]

It's fine. I got no problem with that. And I like Zaz, and I've gotten to know him better in the last several months.

[Zaslow]

I'm a nice boy.

[Dan LeBatard]

We'll get to all of this in a second. But, Chris, your takeaway when you left the podcast. Okay. And it's the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody.

[Greg Cody]

Right.

[Dan LeBatard]

Did you think that I was like, I. It has gotten back to me that he just told me to bleep you and that he's legitimately angry at me, and I don't know what it's about. It could be any number of things because your. Your father's remarkably sensitive after all of these years of friendship.

[Zaslow]

It was an aggressive fu.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, well, let's listen to that sound. First. Let's listen to Greg Cody on the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody, and I will find out with the rest of you what he's mad about, because I do not know.

[Greg Cody]

My problem is Dan LeBatard, of all people, who lost his vote in disgrace. With good reason being the guy who says I should lose my vote because I changed my mind over the course.

[Chris Cody]

Of six, we're having two different conversations. I don't think you should lose your vote. I'm not with Dan on that, but I'm just. I can't, like, the most you've ever sounded like Trump, the way you're defending that tweet.

[Mike Ryan]

That's all I'm saying.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, first of all, never say that again. He. LeBatard. I know LeBatard very well. I know when he's serious. We're having two companies.

[Dan LeBatard]

Not.

[Greg Cody]

I know when he's serious and when he's not. He was serious when he said he thinks I should lose my vote. Well, you.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, he should lose it.

[Greg Cody]

No. A, I shouldn't lose it, and B, you're the last person on earth should be. Who should be admonished.

[Dan LeBatard]

Why? Because I took. Because I took a noble stand with a compromised media and lost my vote over principal. Or because of you, a shill for baseball who barely pays attention and forgets to vote in Andrew Jones and then votes him in years later.

[Greg Cody]

I didn't. I never forgot to vote.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, you were vehemently against him. Against it.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. And so were about 20% of the electorate. I was one of dozens. And you said he'd never get in.

[Chris Cody]

You did a condescending tweet that was like, dismissive of people even suggesting.

[Greg Cody]

And at that time, that was the climate for Andrew Jones's candidacy. Things change. You can't guess what changed, though.

[Dan LeBatard]

Nothing changed. Nothing changed other than your mind.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, why do you think that a number of players go eight or even 10 years without getting in? And then.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let me. Let me.

[Greg Cody]

Let me.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let me set this up for the audience again. Because it was legitimate. I was legitimately shocking to have a listener point out after Greg Cody parades around. Look, guys, I voted Andrew in this time as the sanctimonious gatekeeper.

[Zaslow]

Was that the face he made?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, yeah. I know my baseball guys. I asked my sons whether he was a good center fielder.

[Greg Cody]

I had that tone of voice. Did I?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. And it's like, I didn't know anything about Michael Tucker or anybody of those Braves. I don't know anything about Andrew Jones other than that one scandal he had where he had the Gold Club trial and didn't know the names of either of the strippers he had slept with.

[Greg Cody]

Michael Tucker.

[Dan LeBatard]

Anyway, can I read the tweet? Yes.

[Greg Cody]

Andrew Jones didn't even spell his first name right, but.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, there it is.

[Greg Cody]

But a great defensive player.

[Dan LeBatard]

The gatekeeper comes in with that one telling minorities how to spell their name.

[Greg Cody]

There he is. Everything's about a minority with you. I'm making fun of somebody's name.

[Dan LeBatard]

I know, but spelled correctly. Yes, but other people spell differently than Anglo Saxons.

[Greg Cody]

Anglo Saxons.

[Chris Cody]

Thought was about that one.

[Greg Cody]

Were we in medieval times? Andrew Jones, Anglo Saxon.

[Dan LeBatard]

You a gatekeeper on whether Andrew Jones should be in the hall of Fame while telling him his name is spelled wrong and this tweet exists.

[Greg Cody]

I'm prodding, I'm poking.

[Zaslow]

This tweet exists of you five years ago. All right. You screenshot your 2021 hall of Fame ballot. You remember everyone who you voted for back in 2021. I'm going to tell you, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Manny Ramirez, Todd Helton, Kurt Schilling, Gary Sheffield, Sammy Sosa, Omar Fiskel and Billy Wagner. And you attach to it. Appreciate all your comments on my whole ballot, but one thing jumps out. You and you, Andrew Jones folks are delusional. Seriously, good player hall not close. Sub 00 shot at Cooperstown. Sub 0 if you prefer, they should take your vote.

[Greg Cody]

Five years ago. That was the truth. Every word of that was the truth.

[Chris Cody]

I feel like if you asked Tim Kirchen five years ago, he would say it doesn't make my ballot this year. But you don't know, maybe further down the road, it wouldn't be a condescending. You're an idiot if you're even considering. Ever.

[Dan LeBatard]

Delusional. Okay?

[Greg Cody]

But Tim Kirchen, whose baseball opinion I respect as much as anyone's. Tim Kirchen would defend me right now because unlike everybody else in this room, Tim Kirchen is a fellow voter like myself. And Tim Kirchen realizes he would defend.

[Chris Cody]

Not voting for him.

[Greg Cody]

Change their mind. That's why you think it was just.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, but generally the information changes.

[Greg Cody]

Wrong. You're wrong. Spilling coffee.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, you.

[Greg Cody]

All over yourself. You're wrong. No, you're wrong.

[Dan LeBatard]

Like, look out. Read the tweet again. Like this. How do you defend this?

[Greg Cody]

I. Okay, when you say people don't change their mind, obviously they do, because five years ago, Andrew Jones was getting about 22% of the vote, and he inched up to 75. Why? Because dozens and dozens of voters. You don't vote like me.

[Dan LeBatard]

Decided you don't vote 10 in every year. The distinction that you're not making that Tim Kirkjin Wood is. And it's more polite and respectful of baseball than you are. In this tweet, he's saying There were other 10 guys more qualified. And I could only vote for these 10. He was 12th. I'll get him in five years. That's not what you said. You rained down judgment on, this is not a Hall of Famer. That's not what you did. And you don't. You don't vote 10 in every year. You were holding on to that vote. When you were with the steroid guys, you were holding on. You're very. You're not lenient with your vote.

[Zaslow]

Matter of fact, you had nine that year. You could have had a tenth.

[Greg Cody]

That's another example of the electorate changing its collective mind. It used to be that the steroid guys were Persona non grata. They got 10% of the vote, 15%. Now they're up to 40 or 50% a lot. And I set the trend there. A lot of voters are coming on to the fact that it should not be a lifetime ban. It should not be a life sentence, because you may or may not have done steroids. 6.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'll get back to this in a second because we've got Mensa news. And I also want to get to the, um, schedule here. But I don't want to let this go because of how wrong he is about this. And just defending really something that while not immoral, is unbelievably. Beneath him.

[Unknown Advertiser 1]

I love that I get to use this expression correctly. This is inside baseball.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. And it's hall of Fame vote. And it's the wheelhouse for Greg Cody because he's very proud of having this vote. So it insults him enough to say bleep you to somebody who has a different opinion than him because it means a lot to him to be a voter.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm just confused because on one hand, I'm very proud of. Of Greg to say, hey, I was wrong back then. I've changed my mind. I'm allowed to do that as I age, as I get more mature, as more data comes to light. But also, I'm not budging on this tweet.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's great.

[Chris Cody]

Just say, hey, that tweet.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. You would think they go hand in hand, but nope.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is what Arlene's married to. He'll come around eventually, but it'll never be in the moment.

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[Zaslow]

Don LeBatard yeah, very.

[Chris Cody]

If someone told You. You couldn't have a Corvette.

[Mike Ryan]

Stugats.

[Greg Cody]

I'm a grown ass man who's not. Who's not filthy rich. I can't afford a Lamborghini. Well, I probably can, but that's.

[Mike Ryan]

Hey.

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[Dan LeBatard]

With these two gods.

[Greg Cody]

Five or six years ago, 80% of the electorate would have agreed with that.

[Chris Cody]

The being condescending.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's.

[Greg Cody]

No, it's not.

[Chris Cody]

Just not voting to get that out of here. We're not criticizing you for not voting for him.

[Zaslow]

You were offended with anyone who said.

[Chris Cody]

You can have your reasons on why you didn't vote for him, but your reason in that tweet, it did not age well. You dismissed the idea of him. Ever you say delusional.

[Dan LeBatard]

Delusional.

[Chris Cody]

And it's never going to happen.

[Greg Cody]

Show me anybody trending at 20% right now and I will say the same thing. There's no chance these people. This guy is going to get in.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, so Cody is sticking to. I was right at the time. He's a stubborn man. We'll get to his beef with Zaslo in a second. But, Mike, what is the Mensa news? And I'd like to go over. This has been a long time since I did this. Billy's gonna be so mad. I'd like to go over the, um, schedule with you. That's not a sentence I thought I would ever say again in my life.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, the schedule, through the prism of potentially having a quarterback, should make for a new discussion. The statement from Young Money. Through close collaboration and principled negotiation, we have successfully negotiated an unprecedented path, one that has now been reached fair and mutually with an agreeable resolution. We commend Darien Mensah for his extraordinary professionalism, maturity, and unwavering commitment to making the decision that best serves his future and family. His approach throughout the process exemplifies the highest standards of character and integrity. With that foundation in place, we are pleased to announce that Darian Mensah, supported by our legal team and legal counsel and Young Money, has reached a settlement agreement with Duke University. He has bought himself out of his nil deal with Duke. His name was officially entered the portal. Darien Mensah is now free to go wherever he pleases.

[Dan LeBatard]

And there are no restrictions. And there's nothing going to be coming forth in terms of court issues or.

[Mike Ryan]

Injunctions unless part of the settlement. Unless part of the settlement was that he can't go a specific place, which I don't believe. So. Darian Mensah is now Free and clear to do what he pleases. This is, I believe, the first time an athlete has bought himself out of his nil deal. I imagine wherever he goes will make him whole. Because remember, this was not a Miami lawsuit as it was portrayed in the. In the media. This was a Darian Mensah Duke lawsuit, and they have come to a settlement.

[Dan LeBatard]

So can you give me some information on Young Money Lil Wayne? Is that his company?

[Mike Ryan]

I assume he's part of the financial backers of it. Yeah, it's an offshoot of the record.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, so now you see what's happening, right? Just pay attention to the game because the agents and the hip hop industry and people who know how to make money around the hustle, if you're gonna say agents rule things and there are no rules, yeah, we'll just buy ourselves out there and we'll cash in the next future million over here. When he goes to Miami, we make him a bigger star. That's the game we're now just so that you know where the power is, how agents run things. And there's less governance there than there is anywhere in what is professional football. So the Lil Waynes of the world and their capitalist hustlers can get into this game, buy the players, say, we got you, kid. We'll front you, whatever.

[Mike Ryan]

I think you're seasoned on the wrong thing. I'm not sure how involved. I know Lil Wayne is a financial backer here, but this is not anything different. That Young. Yeah, he's repped by young money, but there are a million agents that would handle this the exact same way.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, let me. Let me backtrack because what Mike is saying is correct in that the news of the day, should there be no limitations, is that Mensah is probably coming to Miami. And the next news on that is whatever Duke is willing to or can put up as a fight of. No, we're not the minor leagues for Miami, where you can just buy our quarterback when we've got a deal with him. Like, the business of this fight's done. I know. Okay, the fight is done now. And you're reporting that it's done and that Duke has no recourse.

[Mike Ryan]

That unless there's some new information, that's what settlements are.

[Dan LeBatard]

So what do you imagine that conversation was like? The reason that I brought up the young money portion of this is because the ability to buy yourself out of a contract and future conflict is usually something the athlete does not have unless he's pressing against future earnings. So when the business of this comes and the agents get involved as they are running the sport through these kids. What do you imagine this means to the business of football? As the business of football is what Miami just almost won last year.

[Mike Ryan]

I do think that this is an interesting case study because this is a whole new world with an athlete specifically at that position buying himself out of a multi year nil agreement. You don't often see multi year nil agreements too. Darian Mensah was, I mean he, he might be viewed as Curt Flood in a couple of different respects because Duke, with rev share money poached Darien Mensah from Tulane, established a whole new market. Mensa got more than double what Cam Ward got for Miami. It sent the quarterback pricing market into a new stratosphere last year. And now he has bought himself out of a multi year deal again. Kind of like Curt Flood, just a new, whole new precedent.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, so how do you guys feel about the Curt Flood thing? Because that is very religious sports language he's using. I want to come back.

[Mike Ryan]

It's a bit lofty.

[Dan LeBatard]

I want to come back here for a second though, because I've been guilty of being a bit lofty as it comes to Deion and what it is that he was doing and is doing in Colorado as the original business sports mercenary. Young money, I think also represented Travis Hunter. Okay. And so one of the things that's happening here, Travis Hunter wins the Heisman, Travis Hunter gets D on that contract, Travis Hunter becomes a top five NFL player. The power in the sport that's going to the player after Northwestern threatened to unionize and everything that happened over the last five years. This is a really interesting precedent. If Mike's going to put it in Curt Flood territory, it's a pretty interesting precedent. The details on how you buy yourself out of this deal if you want to be the guy who replaces Fernando Mendoza, because now Indiana is the big program with the big money and you want to be a $5 million a year quarterback.

[Mike Ryan]

I think where it can approach Kurt Flood territory is you have Dabo who's as old school as it comes, who's dealing with his own poaching situation and Ole Miss calling for collective bargaining. People may look to this and say if multi year agreements don't mean anything and these athletes can just buy themselves out and score another nil deal, that kind of takes care of their lost wages when it comes to this settlement, then you have something that could potentially be viewed as if not the tipping point. One of the major things that gets this closer to where it Needs to be, which is a collectively bargained sport with clear and identified rules.

[Dan LeBatard]

It is really fun precedent setting chaos like it really is. It's fascinating if you don't have any morality about the capitalism of your games. Like if you're just watching it as a test study. What's happened in the last five years to this sport where we all saw that the Mario Cristobal contract was something. If he's going to get the best players, if $90 million on a contract to a coach with a salary cap of about $21 million is going to get you all the biggest and the best players, then everyone's going to want to play that game. And to see Miami rocket through the last four years of oh, the whole thing's changing. It's gonna be straight business, straight cash, homie. And to see what's happening where thousands of kids are being churned up in this portal like they get college football's door closes in their face. They go from one day to the other, not realizing, oh, wait, we were doing business, I did it poorly. Thousands of kids in that portal are having their college careers ended. It's cruel, it's awful. But you're seeing the machine come to life and there's no stopping it.

[Greg Cody]

The rich get richer in college football right now. And look at what Miami's done. They've gone from record setting Ward to Carson Beck to Darian Mensah, presuming that they get him that at the most important position.

[Mike Ryan]

Aren't we presuming that I would anticipate Dari Mensa being a Miami Hurricane now? Yeah. And I do think what Greg is outlining is pretty spectacular in that it is. They got Cam Ward, they got Carson Beck, shit looked bleak. And they found a way to get a quarterback that when held in direct comparison to Sam Levitt. Yeah. Because he's not in the court.

[Dan LeBatard]

I will tell you that five days before the national championship, Mike was very worried, still anxious about, oh, we're not going to have a quarterback next year.

[Mike Ryan]

We're not going to be able to keep this thing rolling because Emory obviously knows about our pursuits. We were very aggressive in trying to get Sam Levitt. Jimmy Sexton happened there. Jimmy Sexton, who also reps Lane Kiffin, isn't going to stick his neck out, make Lane pick what he believes is the best job in America, and not get Lane the quarterback that he wants. So that's what happened with Sam Levitt. Ty Simpson wasn't a fan of how he handled his business. Putting the number out there but he had 32 NFL GMs telling him he was a first round draft pick. There weren't really any great options. I was breaking down tape of Western Carolina quarterbacks and they found a solution here. I think potentially, if you're to believe what's out there about with Darian Mensah, who I think is a spectacular quarterback.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is an obvious solution.

[Mike Ryan]

An ACC champion.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't know why you would be bashful about this to me, okay? I know that now. In retrospect, everyone thinks they knew about whatever they thought they knew about Carson Beck or Cam Ward. But this kid, if you watched football last year, I mean Trinidad Chambliss would have won the Heisman Trophy if we'd gone another day. But this kid looks like a professional quarterback. The Miami Hurricanes have solved their quarterback situation. They're going to go Cam Ord, Carson Beck and maybe Mens is drop off from Beck, but I don't think he is actually.

[Mike Ryan]

No, I don't believe so either. What I like about Mensah is he's got, you know, he's got some guts. We can call it how it is. I think, you know, Carson Beck was fundamentally changed after that Louisville game and was a little timid when it came to stretching the field. I'm not sure you're going to see Mensah be that timid. And if you get his receivers thousand yard receiver from Duke as part of the package deal, you're talking about a loaded Miami team that is well positioned and they can make another run. They can. They gotta win, Charlotte. They gotta win.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, let's, let's get to the schedule in a second because this look, buying the best quarterback and receiver from your conference champion, stealing those two players from Duke, however it is that you come about getting them, Miami will lose no momentum offensively because Malachi Toney is returning and a lot of good players are returning defense.

[Mike Ryan]

And I believe Shannon Dawson is going to stay. There was some hearsay conjecture. He was offered up in some interviews. Some schools reached out to him. I don't think that that's fully buttoned up, but I anticipate Shannon Dawson staying.

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[Zaslow]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Don LeBatard Surely every time you're watching this, you recognize that Your wife is laughing that she married. She married Larry David.

[Greg Cody]

I. I do. Yeah. One of the great characters in the history of television, in my humble opinion. And. And to my credit, my personality.

[Dan LeBatard]

In my humble opinion, followed by to my credit, amazing.

[Greg Cody]

My personality, just amazing. Predate. Curb your enthusiasm.

[Mike Ryan]

Stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, wow.

[Greg Cody]

I'm not gonna say Larry David.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay.

[Greg Cody]

Patterned himself.

[Dan LeBatard]

You copy. All right. Put it on, please. Juju did Greg Cody copyright being an asshole long before Larry David. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

[Greg Cody]

And if I may just say parenthetically, Miami is doing this to Duke at the expense of a former UM coach, Manny Diaz, which is sort of a fun aside.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, Manny Diaz has won a conference championship. Mario Cristobal has not. And this is a funny aside in a number of different ways, as now Duke gets dragged again by big boy football. Because that's a program that when Miami was coming up, had a track around the field. And Duke was good at offense. Last year, Duke has been good at offense for a bit. And these two players that Miami got a big white, fast wide receiver that. Never mind the whiteness of it. Miami didn't really have a number two last year. C.J. daniels was hurt. Marion. Marion couldn't be trusted. And so you had Malachi Tony being asked to do too much. This guy's not a two.

[Mike Ryan]

No, he's a perfect SAT guy too. Cooper Barkade is pretty. Pretty spectacular coach's son. And that that game against Duke is certainly going to have a lot of juice if. If those two players from Duke end up coming to Miami. Really quirky schedule for Miami this year. Do we have sound of Mario Cristobal complaining, openly lamenting the one thing that he would look at. Look at the landscape of college football. You asked Mario Crisbal what's the one thing he would change about it. And he invoked the schedule.

[Dan LeBatard]

One of the top things. It's minor in the eyes of many. I would eliminate Thursday and Friday games. Man, college football's for Saturday. That drives me bananas. I know. And that's might be petty to some. Yeah, man, I want college football on Saturdays. I really, really do.

[Mike Ryan]

So he's got three Fridays and a Thursday this season, including opening the season across the country in Palo Alto for a primetime Friday game. There's a lot of reasons to not like this. What it does to your body clock and what not. ACC games, they have this big deal with espn. They have that standalone national window might benefit some of the players on like the Heisman stage, but also they get spooky. We saw it time and time again. Now, hopefully a more consistent Miami means less spooky hours on Friday. But yeah, we got four of these bad boys, including a FAMU game that will go directly against the NFL kickoff, the first game of the season there. But it does line up pretty well for Miami. And, and when you consider the two storylines of the two programs and you look at their schedules, that November 7th game against Notre Dame is going to be so blown up and promoted you're talking about potentially game of the century type of vibe surrounding that game. When you consider all the storylines, well.

[Dan LeBatard]

When you look at everything on there, okay, I should point out Manny Diaz is also the guy who refused to let Fernando Mendoza walk on to the University of Miami. But you look at that schedule and when you talk about business building, put it on the poll please. Juju is college football for Saturdays. That's an easy schedule. And that Notre Dame game is an obvious monster. But what we just told you transactionally is going to put Miami in the playoffs next year if they don't get hurt. The thing that I was starting to say though is that it's going to be hard to replace that pass rush. Right? You don't normally have. They fixed their defense in one year and the reason they fixed their defense and the secondary was not exposed more is because in the sport they had the best pass rush because they've got two first round edge rushers. Miami's never had those. Miami doesn't make first round edge rushers. So to have two on the same team is going to be impossible to replace. And I don't say that to criticize Miami. I'm just saying that's not. You cannot have the expectation yet that you're the Georgia or Alabama defensive lines where you get all the first round picks on the first on the defensive line.

[Mike Ryan]

This is fair. You citing history is true. Miami's never had an edge rushing tandem the way that they had with Macedor and Bain. Pretty illustrious program. Those are the best edge rushers we've ever had. They're both going to be first round picks. Ruben Bane did a hit on the local CBS affiliate and he said he thinks Miami's defensive line is going to be better next year. Reasons for that we saw Marquise Lightfoot really come online. Hayden Lowe has been injured all season last year, but he's a gamer, a five star type of guy. You look across that entire defensive line, they are all five stars who with the exception of Moton who was fantastic for this team last Year and I will snap back a little bit in that. Yes, the edge rushers were amazing. Huge credit to them, Big part of the turnaround. Corey Heatherman, I think deserves a ton of the compliments here because Jacoby Thomas and Keonte Scott, not with huge fanfare, they tried to move Keonte Scott to an outside corner at his previous stop. He identified those players. He's exceptional when it comes with those nickel safety, hybrid type of guys. And I think Heatherman's going to be a head coach real soon.

[Greg Cody]

Also a shout out to Jason Taylor and the job he's done with the.

[Mike Ryan]

U and Damian Lewis.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, we don't need this to be an acceptance speech. We can shout out whoever it is that you like in terms of credit. What I'm telling you, fix their defense is they had two first round pass rushers. It fixed it in one year. And while Mike can be as enthused as he likes about an assortment of five stars, and he should be because this is how you build the momentum to having the D lines that Alabama and Georgia had that have to win up the front because you got bigger, stronger athletes up front. Miami's springboarded into. They just took Duke's position players that's won the conference with five losses that won the championship game. And it did so with offense like that. They did so because that receiver and that quarterback, it's not because of the line play. And so when I. It sounds like I'm questioning that they can do it as well as they did last year as Mike hyperventilates, because it's understandable. This is exciting if you're a Miami fan. Watched 50 years of um, football without seeing one guy like that on their defensive end. Like not, not one, not Calais Campbell, not one guy have I've ever seen like the two they had this year. And it fixed their defense and it made their defensive coordinator look great because nothing's more important than pass rush.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I mean, you're right. Reuben Bain was named the number two player in the entire country by ESPN's top 100 postseason list. Number two in the whole country after only Mendoza. And Mezador, I think really was as good as Bane for a lot of the season.

[Mike Ryan]

An older player, Bane had some injuries last year, but I will say Bane and Mezador were on that bad defense last year and it didn't really matter much. They also brought in Damon Wilson, a six foot four guy from Mizzou that had nine and a half sacks. That'll add to that rotation on the defensive Line. And I'll defer to Ruben Bane, who's seen these guys in practice. Some guys that you may not be familiar with, some guys that do some work in Green Tree that haven't featured this season, like Hayden Lowe. When Ruben Bane says he thinks the D line is going to be better, I think we should listen.

[Dan LeBatard]

Zaslow, are you still stewing in what the beef is here with Cody or.

[Zaslow]

Just like to know?

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, so here, let's play the sound here. Let's circle back around here to. To Zaslow's discomfort around Cody. And Cody just asked point blank on the Greg Cody show. Fe featuring Greg Cody with. By his son, who. I wonder where he learned all this stirring. It's not something you should do.

[Chris Cody]

Well, how do you feel that has. Has Zaz grown on you? Like, do you. Do you find yourself. Is your opinion the same?

[Unknown Advertiser 1]

Worse?

[Chris Cody]

Better of, like, you know, just in your, what, four months working with Yaz?

[Greg Cody]

Occasionally, I would say it's. It's. And. And I think he told Levitar that his opinion of me has improved. I think it's the same because when you get to know somebody personally, I think you get to appreciate more. Oh, so who they are?

[Chris Cody]

You just said it's the same.

[Greg Cody]

Well, better. I don't. And I would say this to his face. I don't love his style of announcing or talking. You know, what a cutting thing to.

[Zaslow]

Say that gives him actual character personality to me.

[Greg Cody]

To me, he's the New York radio guy, the boisterous. You know, just the guy who's like, over the top with.

[Chris Cody]

There you go. A guy that can actually communicate to his audience. I find it hilarious.

[Greg Cody]

He's over the top, right? He's too loud. They never.

[Zaslow]

What don't you like with the way I communicate? Okay, what don't you like what I do on this show? Okay, what's under. Like the way I express myself and get my opinions. What's the matter with what I'm doing here?

[Greg Cody]

Okay, you could have said that a little softer.

[Zaslow]

There's nothing wrong with the way I.

[Greg Cody]

Talk and make a point. No, my. My point. And I said at one point in that I would say this to your face, and I will. I prefer Mike Wilbon style to Stephen A. Smith style.

[Chris Cody]

What?

[Zaslow]

Showing up and wearing a Benny the Bull mascot.

[Greg Cody]

If I'm doing. If. If I'm being honest, I don't like the. The. The shouting opinion.

[Zaslow]

What are you doing there, you sorceress? What are you doing there with your hands?

[Greg Cody]

Okay, that's fine. It's Fine. I was much more angry at you, Dari.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, that is deflection.

[Chris Cody]

See, that's what I mean. He thinks what he did to Zaz there, he's like, what? I don't think.

[Dan LeBatard]

You said you don't like his style talking. You don't like the way he presents. And you did throw. Did so. Through an assortment of coughs. That's the funniest thing you've ever done right there. The way all of this dismounts you, criticizing his style while you can't get your style beyond the cough.

[Zaslow]

And. And I gave you a compliment that my opinion of you has changed since I've gotten to know you. Sitting here once or twice a week for the last almost year. And you said your opinion. Me is the same.

[Chris Cody]

Yes, he was saying the same as Zas. Mine has grown.

[Greg Cody]

That's what he. Yes. Which I said later in the interview.

[Zaslow]

I don't communicate very well. What are they talking about?

[Chris Cody]

Right after that, you're just like. But I don't like the way he talks.

[Greg Cody]

I didn't say you don't communicate very well. I said you communicate in a boisterous manner. That is not my preference.

[Zaslow]

I don't know what you're referring to there.

[Greg Cody]

I think he's great at what he does. Was He. He's been. He's been big in this market for decades.

[Zaslow]

Go on.

[Greg Cody]

I'm not surprised that he got the coveted gig on as. As your sidekick. I think he's very good. But you know when you get into that loud shouting thing and you're like, New York radio.

[Dan LeBatard]

Did you just promote him to new gods?

[Greg Cody]

I think I did.

[Dan LeBatard]

You did.

[Greg Cody]

Am I breaking news?

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't. Well, that's not news. You're breaking news is not true.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, okay. We'll see.

[Mike Ryan]

He was telling Tony.

[Zaslow]

Living my life.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is incendiary, I believe. Let's play this sound again of Greg Cody because you cannot do funnier than how this clip closes.

[Chris Cody]

Well, how do you feel, dad? Has Zaz grown on you? Like, do you. Do you find yourself. Is your opinion the same?

[Unknown Advertiser 1]

Worse?

[Chris Cody]

Better of like, you know, just in your. What, four months working with.

[Greg Cody]

Occasionally, I would say it's. It's. And I think he told Levitar that his opinion of me has improved. I think it's the same because when you get to know somebody personally, I think you get to appreciate more. Oh, so who they are?

[Chris Cody]

You just said it's the same.

[Greg Cody]

Well, I. I don't. And. And I would say this to his face. I don't love his style of announcing or talking. You know, the.

[Dan LeBatard]

The.

[Mike Ryan]

What a cutting thing to say.

[Dan LeBatard]

That gives him actual character and personality.

[Greg Cody]

To me. To me, he's the New York radio guy. The boisterous. You know, just the guy who's like, over the top with.

[Chris Cody]

There you go. The guy that can actually communicate to his audience. I find it hilarious.

[Greg Cody]

He's over the top, right? He's too loud.

[Zaslow]

Too loud.