Local Hour: It's a Glorious Thing, the Mangrove

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Episode Summary: "Local Hour: It's a Glorious Thing, the Mangrove"

Release Date: July 7, 2025

In this engaging episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz," recorded live from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz delve into a variety of topics spanning sports, pop culture, and local South Florida happenings. The episode is structured around dynamic conversations, personal anecdotes, and spirited debates, offering listeners a comprehensive glimpse into the vibrant world of South Florida sports and entertainment.

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Fast and Furious Franchise: A Deeper Dive

The episode kicks off with a lively discussion about the "Fast and Furious" franchise, specifically focusing on the spin-off movie "Hobbs and Shaw." Dan shares a personal story about bonding with a friend, Billy Gill, over action movies and their enthusiasm for the latest additions to the franchise.

Dan Le Batard [01:04]: "When you've been around people for a long time, there can be in the friendships, a little bit of staleness that sets in... Just explaining the franchise to Zaslav... I can't remember the last time I saw him as excited as he was."

The hosts commend the chemistry between Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson and Jason Statham, praising their performances and questioning whether the franchise could maintain its momentum without Vin Diesel.

Stugotz [02:36]: "It's part of the fast universe, if you will. Incredible movie."

This segment highlights their appreciation for the franchise's ability to evolve while maintaining a loyal fan base.

Jim Leland Day and Marlins' Fan Engagement

Shifting gears, Dan recounts his experience attending Jim Leland Day at Lone Depot Park (formerly Marlins Park) during the 2020 season, right before the COVID-19 pandemic. He humorously describes interactions with WWE star Roman Reigns, who was promoting "Hobbs and Shaw" at the event.

Dan Le Batard [03:15]: "I go, Roman Reigns, when's Hobbs and Shaw two going to come out? ... He wasn't going to give me the answers."

The conversation transitions to assessing the Marlins' performance and fan turnout, juxtaposing their recent eight-game winning streak against dwindling attendance figures. The hosts express concern over the Marlins surpassing traditionally stronger teams like the Braves in the NL East standings, attributing potential managerial changes to this shift.

Dan Le Batard [19:08]: "Fourth of July was a pretty good crowd... The Braves are a disaster."

Baseball Statistics and Unique Hits

Anecdotes about exceptional baseball performances surface, with Stugotz sharing a family legacy of tracking "unique hits," a statistic that measures exclusively accounted hits in MLB history.

Stugotz [08:40]: "She leads the league in unique hits every season and still holds the record that Graceland almost beat the year before last."

The discussion underscores the fascination with sports statistics and how they enhance the appreciation of player performances, even if some metrics seem extraneous.

The Debate on Revenue Sharing in College Sports

One of the most intense discussions centers around the introduction of revenue sharing in college sports, exemplified by Texas Tech offering a seven-figure revenue share contract to a five-star offensive tackle. The hosts debate the implications of this move, weighing its benefits against potential drawbacks for broader athletic programs.

Greg Cody [30:07]: "It's a groundbreaking story... revenue sharing is new."

Stugotz voices concerns about the sustainability and equity of such practices, arguing that while top-tier athletes may benefit, the ripple effect could negatively impact other sports and lower-tier athletes.

Stugotz [35:02]: "If Texas Tech can afford to cut in this great offensive tackle, what about the other players who now want their share?"

Conversely, Greg Cody defends revenue sharing as a step towards fair compensation, aligning with modern entrepreneurial trends and fostering a more equitable environment for athletes.

Greg Cody [40:48]: "It's better than it's been in terms of compensating them fairly, is it not?"

The debate highlights the evolving landscape of college athletics, where financial dynamics are shifting to provide athletes with more substantial and equitable compensation.

Local Reporting and Social Media Dynamics

The hosts address a noteworthy incident involving local reporter Barry Jackson, who deleted a tweet hinting at insider knowledge about the Miami Heat's roster changes. This sparks a conversation about journalistic integrity and the fine line between speculation and credible reporting.

Greg Cody [24:29]: "Barry Jackson unequivocally is the best reporter down here."

Stugotz and Greg express frustration over the deleted tweet, interpreting it as a potential breach of trust with the audience.

Chris Cote [25:07]: "That's a reporter telling you, I know something you're not allowed to know yet."

The segment underscores the challenges faced by local journalists in maintaining credibility amidst the fast-paced nature of social media.

Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

As the episode progresses towards its conclusion, the hosts reinforce their commitment to covering local sports narratives and providing insightful commentary on emerging trends. The lively banter and back-and-forth debates encapsulate the essence of the show—informative, entertaining, and deeply rooted in the South Florida community.

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Notable Quotes:

• Dan Le Batard [01:04]: "I can't remember the last time I saw him as excited as he was."
• Stugotz [08:40]: "She leads the league in unique hits every season..."
• Greg Cody [30:07]: "It's a groundbreaking story... revenue sharing is new."
• Stugotz [35:02]: "What about the other players who now want their share?"
• Chris Cote [25:07]: "That's a reporter telling you, I know something you're not allowed to know yet."

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This episode of "Local Hour" offers listeners a rich tapestry of discussions, from blockbuster movie franchises to intricate sports statistics and the evolving financial structures in college athletics. Through candid conversations and sharp insights, Dan Le Batard and Stugotz provide a nuanced perspective on the multifaceted world of sports and culture in South Florida.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Stugotz]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Stugotz]

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[Billy Gill]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Billy Gill]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Billy Gill]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Billy Gill]

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[Greg Cody]

Cuervo. When you've been around people for a long time, there can be in the friendships, a little bit of staleness that sets in. You start taking each other for granted. Some sort of what I heard this morning, Cody, when I came in here and just a blabbering, yammering, excitedly sharing with a friend, Billy Gill, talking about with a new audience in Zaslow, Fast and the Furious. I have not seen Billy that excited about anything. A mature adult father. I can't remember the last time I saw him as excited as he was. Just explaining the franchise to Zaslav.

[Chris Cote]

I feel like we shared a moment.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, we bonded this morning. It started over Jurassic park, really, if we're going to talk about it. And then it was just action movies and then it was Fast and Furious.

[Greg Cody]

But you just were rattling through them. Zaslow's only seen two of them and.

[Chris Cote]

You were just so the most recent two.

[Greg Cody]

But he was so happy to take you through the other 47 of them one by one.

[Chris Cote]

And he was careful not to give spoilers.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I didn't give him spoilers, but I gave him points of interest that might want him to see White, have him want to see some of these movies, but not exactly what happened, how it happened. We also bonded. And this is probably not a very popular opinion in the Fast franchise. It might be we bonded over how great Hobbs and Shaw was, which some people see kind of like an appendage, not really part of like the Fast saga. But part of the fast universe, if you will. Incredible movie.

[Chris Cote]

I think it's part of it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I agree with you. I agree with you. Now.

[Chris Cote]

Rock and Statham, they're so good in it. They're funny.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, my God. Great chemistry, the two of them. It made you. It made you wonder, do we really need Vin Diesel? And then, of course, it comes out and you're like, we do need Vin Diesel.

[Chris Cote]

I was very entertained with Hobbs and Sean. Then you got all the Polynesian family that helps in the. Roman Reigns was in it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm glad you brought that up, zaz, because in 2020, the year of our Lord, we were down here. The super bowl was in town right before COVID and the world shut down. And we went out to Media night at Marlins Park. At the time it was called Marlins Park. It's Lone Depot Park.

[Chris Cote]

They didn't have a sponsor yet. Dan.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, no, now it's Lone Depot Park. For those of you who are on where it used to be called Marlins park, and that's where opening night was, where all the teams are out there. Then you have the media out there and they're going trying to get interviews. Some people are being funny. Guys like Cooper Manning was out there. I thought he was Pauly Shore that night. I was like, what is Pauly Shore doing out here? It was Cooper Manning. But one of the people that was out there on behalf of Fox was Roman Reigns. Roman Reigns, I guess they had just signed on with Fox. So Roman Reigns was going around and I think Baron Corbin was the other one. And they were going around and they were interviewing players and they were interviewing people on behalf of Fox. I assume it was a Fox Super Bowl. And I saw Roman Reigns and he was working, so he wasn't really doing interviews. But he walked by and I said to him, I go, roman Reigns, when's Hobbs and Shaw two going to come out? And I put a microphone in his face and he said, that wasn't me. That's the other guy. And I was like, did Roman Reigns forget he was in Hobbs and Shaw? Like, I don't think you're the rock, but I know you were in Hobbs and Shaw. But he wasn't going to give me the answers.

[Chris Cote]

Did he know what he was filming for?

[Dan Le Batard]

That's what I'm wondering, if he even knew he was in the movie, which is a shame.

[Chris Cote]

Maybe he just thought he was living his life.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was. I don't know. I don't know. I guess that's his life, right? Some people are there, spoiler alert. And then there's, you know, friends of theirs, family members of theirs on the back of jeeps holding helicopters by chains. Like, maybe that's just what happens. Maybe sometimes you just get into turf wars with, you know, enemies from abroad. Who knows? But it was a movie, Roman. I don't know if he's aware, Dan.

[Chris Cote]

You know, in the most recent one, Ludacris was in space.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Well, no, I think. I don't think that was the. I think there's one after that. I think there was part Fast X. So it's fast 10. Part one, part two is upcoming. That's the final one for now.

[Greg Cody]

Your enthusiasm about this Tokyo Drift, Zaz.

[Dan Le Batard]

While not having most of the cast, the most instrumental in tying it all.

[Greg Cody]

Together, start the show.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.

[Stugotz]

Foreign.

[Greg Cody]

Excitedly just said to me, what's more absurd, ludicrous in space, or Steve Buscemi in Armageddon in space?

[Chris Cote]

Absurd was your adjective. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

[Greg Cody]

I think you might have said, what's more ludicrous? Did you not Regardless.

[Chris Cote]

No, that's the actor's name.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, thank you. That was my confusion.

[Dan Le Batard]

Luda.

[Greg Cody]

I want to know why it is Greg Cody just waved at Billy Gill with the back of his hand. Why is it that you just dismissed him when he mentioned the Rock and Jason Statham?

[Stugotz]

Well, I. You know, I. The cult of cinema fascination is just way over my head. And I admit that I'm not an atheist when it comes to movies. I'm an agnostic, though. I don't get it. Like, sometimes when Christopher and Michael, my younger son, are together, they're just trading lines from movies, and it's like a language I don't understand. And where, you know, Roman Neal, or whatever the actor's name was. I've never heard of that.

[Chris Cote]

No, you got it, right, Roman Neal. Yeah, you got it.

[Greg Cody]

The wrestler Roman.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, you remember. I was surprised you remember, but you did.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Thank you. I mean, only because you just said it. Yeah, but I. I just. I don't know. Movies. And so when people are that enthusiastic about talking movies, it's just. Well, I'm amused.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just try eight to ten of them, Greg. You'll love them. What's your wheelhouse like?

[Stugotz]

You could do that about wizard of Oz. Get excited. Tell us about it.

[Greg Cody]

No, he. So. So he dismissed you guys with the back of the hand. But I found that your father is more and more unreasonable as he ages about just the collection of any new information. So I think movies are a very common language among friends. But I will ask at Lebatard show, was Hobbs and Shaw indeed a great flick at Lebatard Show? I believe that's gonna be a controversial opinion from the Shadow Show. But your father, right before that, Chris, he was looking at his computer and he had just come out of, of course, the Greg Cody Family Olympics. That part's not surprising at all. It's always on his computer. Soon, in a new episode on the Greg Cody show, featuring Greg Cody, you will get the Greg Cody Family Olympics. 70 years old against 7 years old. It's the only thing of its kind in its lane. Grandfather or grand granddaughter.

[Stugotz]

It's out now. That episode had just dropped.

[Greg Cody]

All right, so what happened was your dad's looking at his computer and o' Ne Cruz of the Pittsburgh Pirates just has a giant arm and the defense in baseball is better than it's ever been. And they recorded a throw from the outfield from him at 105.2 miles per hour. And Greg Cody points at his computer and yells, too much information. Didn't want the information.

[Stugotz]

It's a perfect example of TMI in sports statistics now and then. The second paragraph was the second fastest recording throw from the outfield resulting in a put out since 2015 when Statcast began keeping track of this stuff. Why are they keeping track of it? It's over. Am I supposed to, like, wonder, oh, wow, I wonder who had a harder throw. And is that person going to put that on their resume on the tombstone? Hardest throw from the outfield resulting in a put out in MLB history. I just don't see that that's worth anything.

[Greg Cody]

A human being threw a baseball 105 miles an hour.

[Stugotz]

Okay, put him on the mound. This is coming from a guy who.

[Dan Le Batard]

Tracks unique hits in pfpi.

[Stugotz]

Well, that's a family. It's a family affair. I do, uh, I, I don't think.

[Greg Cody]

That people quite skin.

[Stugotz]

That's a nickname for a unique hit because Ruth's raccoons, God rest her soul, my mother, before she died, she led the league in unique hits every season and still holds the record that Graceland almost beat the year before last. Really? Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

How close did she get?

[Stugotz]

The record, I believe, is 19 in a season. And I think Graceland had 17. But yeah, so I keep track of unique hits, but that's a family affair. That's nothing published nationwide. You know, nobody would care about that in Idaho, just like nobody cares about o' Neill Cruz's I do care though.

[Greg Cody]

I found that interesting. Why Both of your glasses are foggy.

[Stugotz]

I know. Because I'm talking.

[Greg Cody]

Is it the coffee? Is it the coffee?

[Stugotz]

It could be. The coffee is very hot, a little bit under sweetened.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, so you're hot taking here. You don't want any more information but. So you don't find it interesting that a throw from the outfield came in at 105 miles an hour?

[Stugotz]

Not in the least. But dad, this is not ops.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is a pretty simple, straightforward, hardest person to throw from the outfield.

[Stugotz]

Like, hey, but why is that relevant?

[Jeremy Tache]

Because that means they can throw out runners at a higher rate than other guys would be able to because they can throw the ball 105 miles per hour.

[Stugotz]

Get it? I appreciate the condescending tone of voice there. Obviously that's true if you have that, that magical nexus of speed and accuracy. If he's a foot and a half off on the throw, people are still.

[Greg Cody]

Saying, wow, what a fastball wasn't.

[Dan Le Batard]

I know, but if he was right.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, but you know they say you are a five tool player, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

And one of the tools happens to be throwing.

[Greg Cody]

I will say that on a baseball field there are two things that get my attention the most. It is somebody hitting a ball very far. It's not speed on the bases. It is somebody having a giant arm. I remember players forever. Dave Parker just died. What do I remember? Giant arm from the outfield.

[Jeremy Tache]

Like remember that Yoanes Cespitus throw from the corner in la? It's one of the greatest things I've ever seen on a baseball field.

[Greg Cody]

I, I've told you guys this story before. Ricky Williams, obviously great athlete, played minor league baseball and I was just playing softball with him one time and he was in the outfield and I was on third base and he just threw a ball to home plate.

[Chris Cote]

I threw out Derek Lee one time, softball game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Really? What position?

[Chris Cote]

I was second.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow.

[Chris Cote]

Threw his ass out.

[Dan Le Batard]

Who's your double play combo, Michael?

[Greg Cody]

Wow.

[Stugotz]

How fast Was your throw? About 60.

[Chris Cote]

Fast enough. Don't run on me, dog.

[Stugotz]

Okay.

[Greg Cody]

The softball was whistling. I could, I could hear a softball whistling as it went past me on, on third base because of how hard it had been thrown. I cannot imagine an outfielder throwing a baseball 105 miles an hour. Having seen throws from the warning track from Bo Jackson and Vladimir Guerrero. Like loving Jesse Barfield. I associate that name with an arm. Like one of the things that I love in baseball is a giant AR and I don't understand why it is that you would just. I understand why you wouldn't want generally more information, but that. That information is not uninteresting, I don't think.

[Stugotz]

I just think it's. It's extraneous and irrelevant, really. In. In the big picture, in the broad view of sports and stats and athletes, you guys go chooch or cannon for a strong arm. Oh, you got to go cannon, right?

[Jeremy Tache]

Rocket.

[Dan Le Batard]

I go chooch.

[Greg Cody]

Put it on the poll. Juju at lebatard show stronger arm. Cannon, rocket or chooch.

[Billy Gill]

It's gotta be generational, right?

[Greg Cody]

I don't know.

[Stugotz]

When Ricky Williams softball was whistling, was it whistling a tune or was it just like the sound of I've got it. Andy Griffith?

[Greg Cody]

No, Yankee. Yankee Doodle Dandy.

[Stugotz]

Oh, that's impressive. See? Yeah, that's impressive. Okay, okay, now you have my attention.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. I'm great.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's a stat. How old was Ruth when she set the record, Just out of curiosity?

[Stugotz]

She was well into her 80s at that point.

[Dan Le Batard]

So the record for unique hits is by an 80 year old and a child?

[Stugotz]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Unique hit is when you're the only one to get a. No, I know. It makes me wonder kind of how in tune the pickers are when they make these unique hits and whether it's actually a skill or it's just people who don't know what they're doing.

[Stugotz]

Well, my mother's technique was to pick the city that she would prefer to live in.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay.

[Stugotz]

So she knew, would I rather live in Boston or Atlanta? You know, that type thing.

[Greg Cody]

So the Marlins, as soon as Billy starts going to the games, they start losing. The Marlins were beating very good teams. Milwaukee is a very good team. And Milwaukee came in here and won a couple of games against the Marlins. But I wanted to ask you guys, because I don't know how you feel about nostalgia. Baseball's nostalgia always been great at trafficking in it. Was anyone moved by Jim Leland day at the ballpark celebrating one of the two old managers that are beloved around here because they were ancient a million years ago when they won the championship and are even more ancient now. Jim Leland comes to the ballpark like Jack McKeon, to be celebrated. And it had to make him a little bit sad to see what baseball in South Florida is.

[Chris Cote]

There's no way. There's no way when he was, you know, shaking hands behind home plate, putting on the jacket that he didn't say to himself, wow, this is just a shit crowd.

[Dan Le Batard]

He was there for 1998, and he should.

[Greg Cody]

He was there for 1998. When he would be in the clubhouse, and he's like, they got me a truck driver. Center field. I got.

[Stugotz]

I got a.

[Greg Cody]

He's a truck driver. They lost like 115 games. But he wasn't expecting to come back to Jim Leland Day and have nothing there.

[Stugotz]

Right.

[Greg Cody]

I don't know how much he was here with the Tigers. I don't imagine he was here very much. Like, maybe. Maybe he knows how bad it is. But I'm guessing Jim Leland returned to Jim Leland Day hoping that there would be a lot of people there to celebrate, you know, a world championship.

[Stugotz]

Does it make it any better that I got back from Key Largo around noon, around right before game time, and I, for the first time since the first week of the season, put on.

[Dan Le Batard]

The game because I wanted to watch the ceremony.

[Stugotz]

Wow. So, like, that's better than nothing. I put it on. It is. I was like, let me see this. Jim Leland Day.

[Greg Cody]

I want to watch that.

[Dan Le Batard]

And.

[Stugotz]

And I was made sad by the crowd.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, it's the bare minimum effort that you gave where it's like, I will snif this for a moment on television because it's Jim Leland Day.

[Dan Le Batard]

I have an indelicate question, but is there, like, financial compensation for Jim Leland Day? Like, is there a check involved? They wet his whistle a little bit. I'm wondering, like, congratulations, you made it to the Marlins Legends hall of Fame. That's expensive, an amount of money. Or you're coming down for personal. I don't know how these things work, but if you have a Jim Leland Day and he's coming down for obligations, is there a few fee that he receives for doing it?

[Greg Cody]

I'm going to guess just a reimbursement of expenses. Like, he's got to invoice them. He's got to invoice them and he'll be reimbursed on whatever it is that it costs for the hotel. I'm guessing the flight they handle.

[Stugotz]

Listen, we're talking about the Marlins. Let's not sugarcoat this. They. They cover his flight economy. They give him a$50 per day per diem and put them up at a motel.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. You're going to make $50.

[Dan Le Batard]

Seems unnecessary.

[Stugotz]

Leland's out front at the Motel 6 in a lawn chair, chain smoking while waiting for an Uber that he can't sign off.

[Chris Cote]

He's sitting next to the pool with no water, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Billy Gill]

At a Best Western.

[Stugotz]

Right.

[Greg Cody]

All right, so just to be clear, you guys have. At a Motel 6 by the pool, you've got Jim Leland with no water in it. Wait, with one of those, you know, tins that is of. Made of aluminum.

[Stugotz]

Right.

[Greg Cody]

That is baking his face so that he can get the proper red on his face. I will tell you that the funniest thing like that I've ever seen was in the Radisson parking lot in Bristol, Connecticut. This will only be funny to the five people who remember him. But Dave Supe Campbell being in a chair with one of those things sunning his face is how I imagine Jim Leland. That outside of a Motel 6.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. There was a shuffleboard court out front, but it was weed covered. You couldn't even use it. It was a sad hotel. But this is the Marlins. You know Bruce Sherman, he plays at Lone Depot Park. He should take out a loan and actually start paying for players. I know they had an 8. Here's the sad thing that we've talked about, okay? Jeremy's mad at all this.

[Chris Cote]

Go on.

[Stugotz]

They just had an eight game winning streak and you're thinking to yourself, all right, they've done something. They have shown that their young players are rising. They have potential as a team. They're going to come home and the crowds are going to be there. Well, their first home game after an eight game winning streak. They drew 7,000 people. Okay. Sunday, because of Jim Leland and fireworks or whatever it was, I think they inched over 10,000. The fans just aren't buying what they're selling.

[Jeremy Tache]

Maybe that's because of us.

[Dan Le Batard]

Fourth of July was a pretty good crowd. It was a good environment. It was a good loss. I went on 4th of July, very good loss. Competitive game. The crowd was up with two outs in the ninth inning. Runners on first and second. Tying run there. End up losing, but it was a nice loss. Fireworks show is decent. Fireworks show. Fun time had by all on the 4th of July. Yeah, based on my, based on my work down here, I would say this like as much as we criticize the Marlins and we say, oh, they just had an eight game win streak and where's the crowd and all that stuff. I mean, worse off for the Braves than the Nationals. The Nationals, I don't think there was any expectations, but the Marlins are in third in the NL east right now. They're not going to win the division, but they're. I mean, there is a off chance that wild card is interesting towards the end of the year, but man, the Braves are a disaster. I would hate to be the Braves or a Braves fan right now behind the Marlins with what they were supposed to be. The Braves are One of these teams that we were talking about two, three years ago, like, Braves are going to be around for a decade and no one's going to compete with them. And because of injuries and you know, Ronald Acuna Jr. Has been injured a number of times, but the Braves have dealt with a ton of injuries. And now the Marlins, who have a fracture like a. A quarter of their payroll, maybe are ahead of them in the standings.

[Stugotz]

I would be worried for my job if I were Brian Snitker, because in mlb, the rule of thumb is they fire the manager and the GM if that team falls behind the Marlins in. In the NL East. That's the rule of thumb.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, the Nationals just did that.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, we just saw that.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

So, guys, Braves are next on that.

[Greg Cody]

List for the draft. You've fallen behind the Marlins. We fired everybody.

[Stugotz]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nationals are one of those teams like the Cavaliers, right. Where like, okay, this. How is it that they have so many number one picks every year?

[Chris Cote]

MLB drafts during the day. Like, do you think if the Marlins and the Braves are playing at the same time as a draft, they can get fired during the draft?

[Stugotz]

Quite possibly right before the pick.

[Tony]

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[Stugotz]

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[Tony]

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[Billy Gill]

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[Tony]

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[Billy Gill]

Jeremy, you know something about me, right? You know when I'm grilling outside and it's summertime? You know how I supplement my summertime?

[Jeremy Tache]

Of course I do.

[Billy Gill]

I make it Miller time.

[Stugotz]

Of course.

[Billy Gill]

That beautiful white can. Oh, when it's so hot outside, I just. I just put it right to my forehead right there. And I just roll it sometimes right on the forehead, cool my body down. And then I crack it open. Instant relief. And then that first sip, brother does that first sip.

[Jeremy Tache]

That is a top five sequence of events that you can possibly go through.

[Billy Gill]

I'm just serenity now. When I just imagine that first sip of Miller Light, just thinking about it.

[Dan Le Batard]

It'S making me happy.

[Billy Gill]

Dude, the sun is out. It's nice. You have your friends showing up. You got your family there. You just had your first sip of Miller Light. And you know what? You're happy. You're blissful. You're fulfilled. I've been stocking my cooler with Miller Lite four years and for good reason. It's brewed for taste only. 96 calories and 3.2 grams of carbs. This year, Miller Lite turns 50. That is five decades of cookouts, laughs, and ice cold moments that never miss. It's the original light beer and it's still my. Go to Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Greg Cody]

Don LeBatard.

[Stugotz]

My wife says this is a sexy voice.

[Dan Le Batard]

It really is. Yeah, I'm hard.

[Stugotz]

Thank you. Wow.

[Greg Cody]

St.

[Stugotz]

I don't know why.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with.

[Stugotz]

The st. Too many rounds in the MLB draft.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, it's the worst of the drafts by far. Well, I guess being drafted into war is worse, but MLB draft is the worst draft.

[Stugotz]

You're right. What are there, like, 78 rounds?

[Dan Le Batard]

I think at one time, the baseball draft. And I'm not making this up. I heard this somewhere. No, I think at one point in time. And it can't still be the thing where the MLB draft just continued until every team was like, okay, we're good now. Like, it just kept going until the teams all agreed to stop drafting.

[Jeremy Tache]

It's 20 rounds now. So they. They cut it down during. During COVID because they eliminated so many minor league teams from across minor league baseball. So now each. Each farm system only has four teams, and so they've limited the amount of people that you can select. So it went back to 10 after being 5, and now now it's only 20, which is totally reasonable considering how many minor league teams there are.

[Greg Cody]

I want to do something with you guys here because we haven't had a chance to do very much of this in the local hour. Our friend and colleague Bar Jackson, who for many years I have said at the Miami Herald would be a number one pick. He would be a number one pick if we were drafting sports information people locally. Although Andy Slater might be yelling and screaming that he wants in on that. But Barry Jackson has been a newsbreaker in this town for a long time. He doesn't usually delete his tweets, but there was a tweet deleted that read. It would behoove the heat to clear out roster spots soon. That is all.

[Chris Cote]

I hate that so much.

[Stugotz]

I do, too.

[Chris Cote]

I hate it so much.

[Stugotz]

That implies he knows something.

[Chris Cote]

Okay, so. So first of all, Barry Jackson unequivocally is the best reporter down here. Okay? Like. Like, let's. Let's put the cards on the table.

[Stugotz]

Put it on the table.

[Chris Cote]

The best reporter out there making a face.

[Greg Cody]

Greg, any dispute. Do you have any dispute of that?

[Stugotz]

Barry Jackson is a great reporter.

[Chris Cote]

Really great.

[Stugotz]

I just don't like that kind of a tweet.

[Chris Cote]

But for me, okay, I'm interested if you. If you agree with this, Greg, because what. We're both. We're two journalists who are. Who are on this show right now. So I'm Interested if you agree with me. All right. That tweet right there is a reporter telling you, I know something you're not allowed to know yet.

[Stugotz]

Right.

[Chris Cote]

That's all that is.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

And that's me. It's like. It's a dick move to me.

[Stugotz]

I don't know if I'd go that strongly. But my problem with something like that is that you're throwing something at a wall, hoping it sticks. If two days later, the heat do make a big move, Barry Jason could look back at that tweet and go, yeah, like I reported. No, that's what he's doing. He wants to be able to be.

[Dan Le Batard]

See, I told you. Why did he delete it?

[Jeremy Tache]

Probably because of responses like this.

[Stugotz]

You should ask him. I'll call him right now.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do it.

[Stugotz]

You're gonna.

[Greg Cody]

Wow.

[Stugotz]

I don't want to embarrass him.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. That's a great joke. If you're not going to execute it.

[Stugotz]

And it was a joke, why would it embarrass him? I mean, everybody has his number. The show is able to call him right now.

[Billy Gill]

Is that a spooky.

[Dan Le Batard]

What was that?

[Greg Cody]

Spooky hands. You did. What are you doing?

[Stugotz]

I, like, was able to call him right now. I like doing that once in a while. It's a special effect. You gotta go like this.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nice tan going, Greg.

[Stugotz]

Thank you. I appreciate that. Do I have the raccoon eyes? I feel like I do. Nah, I should put my glasses back on.

[Greg Cody]

You do? Yeah. You've got. It is very clear that you've had things placed under your eyes that have. Yeah, that have. Were you wearing sunglasses still? Is that what. That is? The residue of your sunglass sunburned face?

[Stugotz]

These turn into sunglasses when I'm in the sun. I spent a lot of time in the sun over the weekend in Key Largo, and it was a beautiful time had by all. Lean back a little further if you can.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. Ruth's raccoons, right?

[Stugotz]

Right. Yeah. That's why we call a coonskin. A unique nickname for a unique kid is a coonskin.

[Chris Cote]

I don't like that word.

[Greg Cody]

The idea that you guys are here, like, honestly, that we're thinking 30 minutes into the show and that both you and Billy have used some form of. And a good time was had by all, like.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, it was just.

[Greg Cody]

I mean, it's.

[Stugotz]

What better way to describe it?

[Greg Cody]

I wanna read something to you guys, but before we go here, because I wanna get a ruling from Zaslow, who is a judge and a lawyer. Barry Jackson, Deleting that tweet, is that forgivable or is that not forgivable?

[Chris Cote]

Barry Jackson put out a tweet claiming he knows things that you don't. The common person, normal the pores don't know. He knows unforgivable. On forgivable. Unforgiven.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, Barry Jackson's been called out. You have. Barry Jackson also is the number one seed all time on reporting locally.

[Stugotz]

Correct. He and Andy later I would say. But Barry, I would put number one all time. No, no, locally like. No, I meant locally but all time right now. Okay, right now. That's not all time.

[Chris Cote]

All time right now.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, all time right now. Best. Best in show right now. Like a horse, Barry, how far back.

[Dan Le Batard]

Does all time go?

[Stugotz]

Wouldn't it be a dog? Best in show. No horses have that.

[Greg Cody]

I'd like to read to you guys a sentence that I cannot get used to and I'd like to ask all of you to give me what is the most absurd thing in this single. I also want you to imagine me reading this sentence in like the year I'm going to say 2006. Five star offensive tackle Felix Ojo, number 20 in the 2026 ESPN 300 committed to Texas Tech on Friday upon signing a historic seven figure revenue share contract with the Red Raiders worth more than $5 million. His agent Derek Shelby of Prestige Management told ESPN I want you to imagine me reading you that sentence five years ago. Even five years ago that, that one sentence of that. What is the most absurd thing in that sentence? Because I'm going to say that it's Texas Tech. My vote is I've got Prestige Management, I've got his agent, I've got historic seven figure revenue share contract. I've got committed to Texas Tech back. I've got five star offensive tackle number 20 in the ESPN 300, not number one number 20, number one tackle. Though in fairness those are important because the first 19 are probably quarterbacks.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right?

[Greg Cody]

Those are more important. But just the going rate on this stuff and how it is that you get into this game. You, you, you guys aren't yet numb to it, are you? Like when, when I read that single sentence to you, it's no longer strange in any way.

[Stugotz]

The revenue sharing is what sticks out to me there. That is what sticks out to me as well. Because you're in effect you're starting to cut athletes in on. On ownership level income right now. You expect that when MLS and Inter Miami to get Lionel Messi gives him a piece of of the club ownership. But you don't expect that. When an 18 year old offensive tackle coming out of high school is given revenue sharing, that's to me that's groundbreaking.

[Jeremy Tache]

It made me happy. Like I just heard you read that and I was excited about it because it means that players are going to end up getting a more equitable share of what they deserve. Like the reality is, is like Tim Tebow should have made millions of dollars at UF just on jersey sales. And that's where revenue sharing comes in. Is part of that is going to be in the merch that's sold and things like that. So when a player is that popular nationwide, it's going to ultimately really help them and especially regionally. So I think this is awesome to hear about.

[Greg Cody]

I don't react with happy or awesome. I also don't react with anything at all negative. It's just sort of still shell shocked about the fact that it's so different than it was five years ago. The beginning of the pandemic, this whole thing changed. USC was talking about forming a union. Like the players, the players in a conference that no longer exists were threatening that they, they weren't going to play if they didn't get money. And then four years later we're like, I'm just fat. I am fascinated is what I am. I'm not, I'm emotionally indifferent about it. But I can also, I guess awe is awe. I guess that can't be emotionless, right? Because I, I'm looking at it and I am not that far removed from Ta. Nehisi Coates writing in the Atlantic, an article about reparations and an article about how it is that the NCAA was unjust. And at that time, four years, five years before the revolution, I could not have imagined the single sentence I just read to you about the Nowhere program.

[Billy Gill]

Texas Tech, I think forming a college.

[Dan Le Batard]

Players union, that's crazy to me.

[Billy Gill]

After 150 years of amateurism, forming a.

[Dan Le Batard]

Union and then getting an agent, that's crazy.

[Billy Gill]

That's absolutely crazy.

[Stugotz]

I mean everything has changed top to bottom in sports, in college sports especially. And you look back, I mean Carly Schremski was the first baseball player to make $100,000, right? I mean everything changes generation by generation. And so when, when Jeremy's referencing, imagine what Tim Tebow thinks that, that he was one of the greats and he got nothing compared to what a rookie offensive tackle is getting.

[Chris Cote]

He get nothing though.

[Stugotz]

He get nothing. Well, but, but relative to today, he did, right?

[Chris Cote]

I mean, I guess like he didn't get paid while he was in school. That's what he didn't get.

[Stugotz]

Okay. And when he came in, nobody offered him a cut of the Florida Gators revenue. You know, I mean, everything has changed fundamentally. It's just a crazy time we're living in. I don't begrudge the athletes for getting their share, but I also think it's to the detriment of the sport because how can Texas Tech, beginning at the university level, not just the athletic program, how can they abide all of this? How can they continue to function when they're giving away revenue to players?

[Greg Cody]

Well, you can't say that you have no feeling about it being negative and then say it's a detriment to the sport.

[Stugotz]

I think it's a detriment to the health of the sport. That's something the sport has to figure out.

[Greg Cody]

So then you have a negative feeling about the athlete being paid. If you think it's to the detriment of the sport. I don't agree with you that it's to the detriment of the sport. I think the sport is healthier than it's ever been and there is more money to share than there's ever been. And I am super curious. Once someone gets a T bow, what's that worth, right? I am legitimately awed about how seismic the change is, but I am not reticent or opposed to the change because anywhere you find growth, you will find change. So if I'm finding revenue growth, I'm going to find growth of all kinds everywhere. I don't see where and how it's a detriment to the sport. If Texas Tech can play in this game, then anyone can, right?

[Stugotz]

If Texas Tech though is. Is giving revenue sharing to the offensive tackle, what about the five star quarterback? What does he get?

[Greg Cody]

But so what though? Why would you want to limit costs on that?

[Stugotz]

Here's so what. Because if you're giving revenue sharing to your 10 biggest football players and your five biggest basketball players, what does that do to the tennis program and all the other sports on campus? There's a trickle effect that's going to hurt college sports. It's going to be great for some of the top tier athletes. And don't make any mistake about this. This is only the top tier athletes we're talking about, okay? The third string guard is getting an NAL deal from the Dairy Queen for free ice cream and 50 bucks a month. He's not getting this revenue sharing. It's a top heavy system right now. That's going to trickle down and affect other sports.

[Greg Cody]

Why wasn't it bad for sports last year or the year before that? Like, when are you announcing that it's bad for sports?

[Stugotz]

I'm just announcing that revenue giving athletes revenue sharing is a whole different level of payment.

[Greg Cody]

Well, it's just giving them some ownership. It's the way the whole world is moving in terms of you can be your own brand, you can start your own thing on the Internet, you can be an entrepreneur. Business is all moving in this direction.

[Stugotz]

I agree. And it's good for the ones at the very top, but it's good for.

[Greg Cody]

Everybody who gets money, right? More people are getting money than have ever gotten it, correct?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, but 90% of them are getting what?

[Greg Cody]

Okay, it's an imperfect system, but it's better than it's been in terms of compensating them fairly, is it not?

[Stugotz]

It's better than it's been in the sense that all of a sudden, I think what began all of this, I think what tipped over the domino here was the star quarterback looking at his high, looking at his college coach getting 8, $10 million or more per season, and the star quarterback who's winning the games is getting nothing. And he's looking at the TV contract, he's looking at how much money his school gets from being in a major bowl, and he's going, give me mine. And that's fair on the face of it. But the guy blocking for him on his offensive line is getting very, very little, relatively speaking.

[Greg Cody]

I just told you, he just got $5 million.

[Stugotz]

I know, but he's the five. He's the exception. He's the five star number one rated offensive tackle, naturally. Okay, so nobody should get the money since the bottom guys aren't getting it. Like, I'm confused what you're arguing for here. There's no equity right now, okay? It's a top heavy system. That's.

[Greg Cody]

There's, there's literal equity. There might not be equality. There's. They're giving him equity in the revenue.

[Stugotz]

There's no equality.

[Chris Cote]

Isn't that life? Like in what job is there equity?

[Stugotz]

I mean, in every job there's equity, right?

[Chris Cote]

No, the people who are better make more money.

[Stugotz]

Okay, but, but if you, if you have a union, you make a minimum amount. There's such thing as a minimum wage, right? The, the. Relative to the.

[Chris Cote]

But what are the minimum. I'm sorry interrupt you, but wouldn't the minimum wage be. You're on scholarship. That's the minimum wage.

[Stugotz]

Well, that used to be everything. And now the top players are getting revenue sharing and the bottom players are getting nothing.

[Greg Cody]

You're very worried about the bottom players who aren't getting anything while not sort of acknowledging that the top players are now getting something closer to their actual value.

[Stugotz]

Yes.

[Greg Cody]

Which represents improvement and growth and isn't necessarily bad for anybody other than people who are lamenting that they want their old sis boomba amateurism back.

[Stugotz]

Okay, I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is the idea that this offensive tackle is getting a cut now of the revenue of Texas Tech is a whole new level of payment that is going to have a negative trickle down effect on the whole athletic program at a school, I believe.

[Greg Cody]

But you can't prove that in any way and you're just objecting to it on its face because it makes you uncomfortable.

[Stugotz]

I can't prove it in any way because we are right in the middle of it. Not even in the middle of it. We're right at the front of it. We are just beginning. All of this is unfolding. NIL was new a couple of years ago and now revenue sharing is new. This is a groundbreaking story, I think, because of the revenue sharing aspect.

[Greg Cody]

Would you not say, though, and I'll leave this after this, because I know this is an age old July argument, but would you not at least concede if we're talking about equitable or we're talking about fairness, paying the tackle $5 million is more in line with whatever the athlete's worth is, what the value is, than whatever is the guy or the woman on the crew team that you're worried about right now.

[Stugotz]

Sure.

[Greg Cody]

Neither of them are being paid.

[Stugotz]

Right.

[Greg Cody]

Neither of them are being paid their value necessarily. Because in the case of a Tim Tebow, he's worth much more than whatever it is that you would pay him, just by virtue of being that size of the economy. But you would agree, right, that it's more fair now than it used to be on value, on just measuring the value of athletes, what they're worth.

[Stugotz]

Well, the football program and men's basketball programs have always carried college sports across the country. Right. And the fairness comes in. And Title IX used to insist that if you had a men's golf team, you had to have a women's golf team. A good thing. Now Title IX is being systematically dismantled and so what we're going to see is top heavy. This is a prediction. I can't prove it's going to happen. We're going to see college programs really pared back there's no, not going to be any crew teams. Maybe the tennis programs are going to be intramural now instead of varsity.

[Greg Cody]

But isn't that sort of capitalism?

[Stugotz]

Yes. Yeah. If I was on the crew team, I would just kind of put my.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hand up, be like, look, I don't.

[Stugotz]

Deserve what the football team deserves. Okay, I'm good. Yeah. And they, maybe some of them are realistic enough to think that. I don't think they'd say it, but.

[Billy Gill]

I mean, do you guys think that there's going to be a collective bargaining agreement sooner or later?

[Dan Le Batard]

Because it just seems like they're going.

[Greg Cody]

To form a union and the school is going to talk to them and.

[Dan Le Batard]

And boom, there you go. We got a legally binding contractor.

[Jeremy Tache]

If anything, Greg, the, the concern that you have about this inequity, I would think this is actually a step in the right direction.

[Stugotz]

Right.

[Jeremy Tache]

Because if revenue sharing starts becoming a piece of this, that's when ultimately revenue sharing is dispersed to the entire team. So the issue that, that you have, which is, hey, these individuals are getting paid all this much, the people getting the major nil deals that are separating themselves from the rest of the group, those are the people we're talking about who are like the individual content creators or things like that. When you're starting to deal with revenue sharing, you're talking about having stake in the company that you're working for.

[Stugotz]

Right.

[Jeremy Tache]

And it's mutually beneficial to both the company and yourself for that company to succeed. So if anything, this is a step in the direction toward what you want, which is making sure that everyone on the team is getting a piece. And in, in this scenario, it's a giant offer to get one individual guy. But I would think that this is sort of the first step in a years long process that might eventually lead us toward revenue sharing with every athlete in college football. Because that's what ultimately happens in all of these professionalized leagues.

[Stugotz]

I would hope that you're right. I think it's a big leap to assume that's going to be the next step because Texas Tech can apparently can afford to cut in this great offensive tackle, supposedly great offensive tackle. They can afford to cut him into revenue sharing. But there's five other 10 other players on that team who want their share right now because of what he got. And the star of the men's basketball team is going, what about us? And so is the number one player on the men's tennis team. There's going to be a demand for revenue sharing and the revenue may not be there. I don't know how this is going to work. Maybe eventually, maybe it's going to work at an Alabama, a Notre Dame. I don't know. How's it going to work at a Texas Tech? How's it going to work at a Florida Atlantic University?

[Greg Cody]

About that.

[Stugotz]

Okay. And they will and they are. I would not want to be an athletic director right now in college sports because it's turned into a complete nightmare. A thicket. A mangrove.

[Chris Cote]

Hobbs and Shaw. 88% Ron Tomatoes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Low score.

[Chris Cote]

Great.

[Greg Cody]

A thicket flick and a mangrove.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, a mangrove. We were in the middle of mangroves in Key Largo. And it's a glorious thing, the mangroves.

[Greg Cody]

The Major League baseball draft. Thank you. Here, let me. Let me just. Let me do this. Hold on. Minor penalty. Two minutes for adding nothing.

[Stugotz]

Adding nothing.

[Greg Cody]

It's a glorious thing, the mangroves. Get the. Get out of here. Get out of erosion. Just get out of here.

[Stugotz]

Look up. Look up. Mangrove.

[Greg Cody]

The Major League Baseball draft used to have an unlimited number of rounds. It would keep going until all 30 teams were doing. Done drafting it once went 101 round in 1990, almost 1500 players were drafted.

[Billy Gill]

Jeremy, you know something about me, right? You know when I'm grilling outside and it's summertime? You know how I supplement my summertime?

[Jeremy Tache]

Of course I do.

[Billy Gill]

I make it Miller time. Of course. That beautiful white can. Oh, when it's so hot outside, I just. I just put it right to my forehead right there. And I just roll it sometimes right on the forehead, cool my body down and then I crack it open. Instant relief. And then that first sip, brother, does that first sip.

[Jeremy Tache]

That is a top five sequence of events that you can possibly go through.

[Billy Gill]

I'm just so serenity now when I just imagine that first sip of Miller.

[Jeremy Tache]

Lite just thinking about it, it's making me happy.

[Billy Gill]

Dude, the sun is out. It's nice. You have your friends showing up. You got your family there. You just had your first sip of Miller Lite and you know what? You're happy. You're blissful. You're fulfilled. I've been stocking my cooler with Miller Lite four years and for good reason. It's brewed for taste only. 96 calories and 3.2 grams of carbs. This year, Miller Lite turns 50. That is five decades of cookouts, laughs, and ice cold moments that never miss. It's the original light beer and it's still my go to Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.