Local Hour: Let The Camera Look At Me

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz Episode: Local Hour: Let The Camera Look At Me
Release Date: June 30, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, the hosts dive into a myriad of topics ranging from Fourth of July festivities to significant sports updates. Filmed at the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard and Stugotz offer their signature blend of humor and insightful commentary on the latest happenings in sports and pop culture.

Fireworks and Fourth of July Preparations

The episode kicks off with a lively discussion about the Fourth of July week, focusing on the anticipation and planning that goes into celebrating America’s independence. Stugotz shares his recent adventure purchasing fireworks, highlighting the economic considerations and safety concerns during the holiday.

• Stugotz: "I got $130 worth of stuff and I bypassed the sparklers on this economy." [02:24]
• Mike Ryan: "Fireworks store. Wow. What'd you get?" [02:20]

The hosts debate the balance between personal celebrations and safety, emphasizing the chaotic nature of fireworks usage and its potential dangers.

Don Staley and the New York Knicks Coaching Speculation

A significant portion of the conversation centers around the New York Knicks' pursuit of Don Staley as a head coaching candidate. The discussion touches on the implications of hiring a woman in a traditionally male-dominated role and the potential impact on the team’s dynamics.

• Stugotz: "I would love to see that. I really would." [07:15]
• Billy Corben: "She would be groundbreaking." [07:54]

The hosts express mixed feelings about the Knicks' decision-making process, considering fan expectations and the organization's strategic direction.

Duncan Robinson’s Role and Future with the Miami Heat

Duncan Robinson’s performance with the Miami Heat becomes a focal point as the hosts analyze his significance to the team and his prospects in free agency. They discuss his shooting prowess, contract status, and the broader implications for the Heat’s roster strategy.

• Billy Corben: "Duncan Robinson is the single best shooter in franchise history." [12:00]
• Dan LeBatard: "If he wants to re up for a team-friendly deal... cool. We can start having the jersey retirement conversation." [16:19]

The dialogue reveals a divide among fans and analysts regarding Robinson’s value and future contributions to the team.

Miami Marlins’ Performance and Player Developments

Transitioning to baseball, the hosts commend the Miami Marlins on their impressive road performance, spotlighting key players like Kyle Stowers and Otto Lopez. They explore the team’s potential trajectory and the impact of recent trades and acquisitions.

• Stugotz: "The Marlins have been mashing the baseball." [21:05]
• Jeremy Tache: "15 RBIs in the last seven games for Otto Lopez..." [30:54]

The discussion highlights the Marlins’ growing competitiveness and the excitement surrounding their recent successes.

Shohei Ohtani’s Pitching Dominance in MLB

The episode also covers Shohei Ohtani’s remarkable pitching feats, with the hosts lauding his ability to dominate hitters and revolutionize the game as a two-way player.

• Stugotz: "He's throwing a baseball harder than he ever has." [35:12]
• Dan LeBatard: "The guy's awesome." [35:28]

Their admiration underscores Ohtani’s unique contribution to baseball and his role as a game-changer.

NHL Changes and the Florida Panthers’ Future

Shifting to hockey, the conversation delves into recent changes in NHL rules that affect team strategies, particularly focusing on the Florida Panthers. The hosts discuss how these adjustments aim to balance competition and financial sustainability within the league.

• Stugotz: "This is where Florida had lost to a team... now they've eliminated the ability to do that accounting loophole." [36:50]
• Billy Corben: "Bill Zito is a finalist for GM of the Year... there is a collusion by the voters against Bill Zito." [41:20]

The debate highlights the challenges and achievements of the Panthers' management under Bill Zito’s leadership.

Brad Marchand’s Contract and Performance with the Panthers

Brad Marchand’s ongoing contract negotiations and his performance with the Florida Panthers are scrutinized, with the hosts debating his value to the team and his future in the league.

• Billy Corben: "Zito has been the best at doing what he does in that sport... it's a crime in that sport that he hasn't won GM of the Year." [41:20]
• Stugotz: "What do you want him to do?" [39:27]

This segment reflects the tension between managerial decisions and player performance in shaping the team’s success.

Jimmie Johnson and Jerry Jones: An Unseen Rift

In a lighter yet intriguing segment, Stugotz discusses a revelation from Football Life with Jimmie Johnson about the strained relationship between Jimmie Johnson and Jerry Jones, offering a glimpse into behind-the-scenes tensions in the NFL.

• Stugotz: "Jimmy Johnson is furious and doesn't want him [Jerry Jones] in there." [43:55]

This anecdote adds depth to the episode by shedding light on interpersonal dynamics within major sports franchises.

Conclusion

Throughout the episode, Dan Le Batard and Stugotz provide a dynamic and engaging exploration of current events in sports, blending critical analysis with their unique comedic flair. From celebrating national holidays safely to dissecting the intricacies of team management and player performance, the duo delivers a comprehensive and entertaining discussion for both avid fans and casual listeners alike.

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Notable Quotes:

• Stugotz: "I got $130 worth of stuff and I bypassed the sparklers on this economy." [02:24]
• Billy Corben: "Duncan Robinson is the single best shooter in franchise history." [12:00]
• Jeremy Tache: "15 RBIs in the last seven games for Otto Lopez..." [30:54]
• Stugotz: "He's throwing a baseball harder than he ever has." [35:12]
• Billy Corben: "Zito has been the best at doing what he does in that sport..." [41:20]

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This summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights from the episode, providing a comprehensive overview for those who haven't tuned in. The integration of quotes with timestamps offers a glimpse into the conversational dynamics and pivotal moments of the show.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugotz]

Cuervo.

[Dan LeBatard]

What are you doing here?

[Stugotz]

Cuervo? Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, I do know that to be true. But even during ad reads like Cuervo, I think he could lay out, especially for one of our great partners.

[Stugotz]

Sweet, delicious Cuervo.

[Dan LeBatard]

Since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots. The same family, the same land, the same passion.

[Stugotz]

Cuervo.

[Dan LeBatard]

So enjoy the tequila that started it all.

[Stugotz]

Cuervo. Cuervo.

[Dan LeBatard]

The tequila that invented tequila. Proximo. Cuervo.com Please drink responsibly.

[Stugotz]

Cuervo.

[Greg Cody]

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[Stugotz]

I don't understand what you mean that it doesn't feel like the week of July 4th?

[Mike Ryan]

No, it doesn't. I think Greg would agree with me on that. It doesn't feel like 4th of July week so far. It's early still, granted, it's only Monday.

[Stugotz]

What does that mean, though? What does that week feel?

[Mike Ryan]

Fourth of July week feels different. You know, the calendar is playing a similar twisted game with us this year with the fourth of July where it's on a Friday because normally you get like, you know, the work, company holiday where you look forward to like a Wednesday. Fourth of July is awesome. You look forward to like a Wednesday. Fourth of July. And then they say, you know what? Just, just take the week, you know, let's celebrate America. Let's celebrate freedom. Take, you know, the fifth and sixth off. Come back, we'll see you next week.

[Chris Cody]

Thursday would have been perfect.

[Mike Ryan]

Thursday would have been fine. Friday doesn't feel. It doesn't feel like the fourth of July. And there's not that, you know, that sandlot feeling in the air with the fourth of July. You know, where you're like anticipating it, you're looking forward to it. You know, all this big thing is coming. Where do I go see fireworks or go to the beach or go to the pool. What are we gonna do? I just. I. Maybe I'm alone in this, but I don't feel it this year. Not yet. It's Monday. It's early still.

[Stugotz]

I think I'm gonna stun you. Saturday afternoon, guess who strolls into a fireworks store.

[Mike Ryan]

Uncle Sam.

[Stugotz]

This guy.

[Billy Corben]

Wow.

[Mike Ryan]

Fireworks store. Wow. What'd you get?

[Billy Corben]

Sparklers.

[Stugotz]

I got $130 worth of stuff and I bypassed the sparklers on this economy.

[Mike Ryan]

That'S like three fireworks.

[Stugotz]

But firework prices, everything was buy one, get two free.

[Billy Corben]

Of course.

[Chris Cody]

Not a good sign.

[Mike Ryan]

Where'd you go? Phantom fireworks?

[Stugotz]

No. Dania Beach.

[Mike Ryan]

Dania beach, yes. Wow. Did you go specifically for fireworks?

[Stugotz]

No, I just happened to be driving by and I just saw a giant tent for fireworks. And I thought to myself, OK, I'm going to make it feel like July 4th week. I'm going to choose that right now. Today. Now. $130 sounds like a lot, but it's not really. It's.

[Chris Cody]

I would have thought. I picture you walking in there. Give me your most expensive.

[Mike Ryan]

What kind? You get the kind that like you shoot out of the Roman candle. The ones that shoot into the sky.

[Stugotz]

I had to give my license in order to buy these. Explosives.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, you do.

[Stugotz]

Like these were not. This was not just sparklers. This was. These look like small, small little bombs.

[Mike Ryan]

Dangerous game crossing county lines with explosives there, Danny. I don't know if you want to do that moving forward. Oh yeah, yeah.

[Billy Corben]

You'll be showing up for work next week with four fingers.

[Stugotz]

What is July 4th supposed to feel like? Like what is the week of July 4th? When he says, is it because you're thinking of days off and it's just going to feel like a regular week and then on Friday you're going to get a national holiday.

[Mike Ryan]

I think the older you get, the less you feel really is might be what it is like as a kid. You look forward to it, you plan it. What are we going to do? This, that and like we're not there. I mean, you obviously are still there. You're going. You're buying fireworks a week early. Are you putting on a fireworks show? Like where you plan on setting these off? Can we come?

[Stugotz]

I'm going to go get the help of Valerie's brother. The.

[Mike Ryan]

I see it.

[Chris Cody]

China's trying to seem cool for the brother in law.

[Mike Ryan]

I've been there. No, it sounds like he's hired help. He's setting off the fireworks.

[Chris Cody]

Her brother's into it. So it's like we're going to Hang out. How can I. Like, I'm going to buy what he's into.

[Stugotz]

The last. The last time we did this, Valerie's father and her brother, I want to say they're very good at this, but the house caught fire, like, in the middle.

[Mike Ryan]

They're very bad at that.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, they were very good at it before that one incident, but they do like explosives.

[Chris Cody]

Giants owner John Mara, who also today said he doesn't know how many fingers JPP has.

[Mike Ryan]

It kind of seems like if the last time you did this, Valerie's father and brother set the house on fire and you are now buying them more fireworks, there may be some sort of, I don't want to say insurance plot going on here, but. Or maybe we're trying to eliminate the family for some reason. But it seems as though there's a history here of, you know, incidents, and you're arming them with the same weapons as the last time.

[Stugotz]

Okay. It's not. I mean, I guess it's one time. I don't know if it's a history. I do not hate them.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, good, good. It's good to say that on the.

[Stugotz]

Front end, the thing that caught fire, it's a giant GR that was thrown away while it was still a little bit orange grit of death. You're saying it could have been. I mean, the car caught a little bit of fire. The. The house caught a little bit of fire.

[Billy Corben]

Wait a minute. How does a car catch a little bit of fire?

[Stugotz]

The hood and stuff. Like it was learned at the time. Well, before it explodes, really. Right. A car catches a little bit of fire. Once it explodes, it's exploded.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah. It's like a firework when it explodes.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. What'd you do you have a fire extinguisher? How'd you put out the pre explosion car?

[Jeremy Tache]

Hard to have something catch a little bit of fire. It's either on fire or it's not on fire.

[Stugotz]

Well, the home didn't burn down, so it caught a little bit of fire.

[Dan LeBatard]

No Michael Jackson hair. A little bit of fire.

[Mike Ryan]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.

[Stugotz]

I've told you guys before that I enjoy the Frank Isola, Brian skin Galabrini, the starting lineup show, the basketball show they do. And on the way in, I heard them talking. And Isola is quoting a report that says the Knicks are going to interview Don Staley as head coaching candidate. And Scalabrini's response was, I try to avoid these topics. And then they moved on.

[Chris Cody]

What?

[Stugotz]

And I'm like, that doesn't hurt Scalabrini. He's better off. You know what his theory was on this? He's like, I'm just gonna say, why not? Instead of addressing whether or not the Knicks would hire a coach and put a pressure on a coach who has never coached an NBA game before.

[Dan LeBatard]

She's a woman.

[Jeremy Tache]

That the answer to why not?

[Chris Cody]

Is that a pro or a con?

[Dan LeBatard]

Most people would answer that. Most sports fans. Most Knicks fans would say, that's a. That's where you start with why not?

[Stugotz]

I would love to see that. I really would. And if I really would, did Isola.

[Dan LeBatard]

Was that his rebuttal?

[Stugotz]

No, they moved on. They moved on because they didn't want to do. I mean, I just thought it was so funny that Scalabrini considers that a controversial topic. The fact that in 2025, woman exists. I tried to avoid these topics. I'm like, what? What topics? Who's going to coach the Knicks?

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't know. I don't think the group chat got what I was doing there. This. I try to avoid these topics.

[Chris Cody]

Are we talking about undeserving statue recipient Don Staley? Right, Greg. And that what you said, let's not do this.

[Jeremy Tache]

Would she be deserving of the statue if she moved on to the Knicks?

[Billy Corben]

Absolutely. Yeah. Because she would be groundbreaking. Look, when I first heard this.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, here we go.

[Billy Corben]

Oh, no, no, no. My.

[Mike Ryan]

Let's hear it.

[Billy Corben]

My immediate reaction was cynicism. Like, the New York Knicks win this because they come off as revolutionary and trend setting. It could be a publicity stunt. Like, we don't know how serious they are, but they win just for the effort. But then again, you look at Dawn Staley despite not deserving a statue yet in her career, what female basketball coach is more qualified to break this ceiling than Don Staley? I can't think of any.

[Stugotz]

Brian Windhorst is on get up, saying that the reason that the Knicks were on Kevin Durant's preferred list and they said, thanks, but no thanks to Kevin Durant is because Giannis Antetokounmpo is obviously the Knicks main target. And according to Wendy, they didn't pursue Kevin Durant because of the possibility that Giannis would be available again. I would say I would love to see it just like the Heat. I would love to see Giannis end up in New York coached by Dawn Staley. Give her a loaded team, give her a team that's a step away, and then see if she could be better than Thibodeau. When you didn't know what you were doing with your coaching search, and now you end up in a spot where Don Staley is among the biggest names you can get. If it's not going to be, what is Mike Brown.

[Chris Cody]

I'm listening.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's try that again. I don't think he's had enough opportunities.

[Stugotz]

It would be inspired. It would. It would be inspired. It would be inspired as something that is groundbreaking from an organization that had Isaiah Thomas swept out in sexual harassment to give over to. Not know what you're doing after Thibodeau in a way that reveals to everybody, oh, you didn't actually have a plan with your coaching search and then end up on a. On a candidate that. On a candidate that would legitimately bring something to Tabloid City that would be the biggest, most famous, splashiest thing you could possibly do. If you're the New York Knick, can.

[Chris Cody]

It be groundbreaking if, by reports, it's like your ninth option for all the people they tried to interview, do you.

[Dan LeBatard]

Find inspiration after failing nine times? Sometimes, yes.

[Billy Corben]

Sometimes, yes. It still would be groundbreaking.

[Chris Cody]

And also, she was our 10th option. We got nine. No.

[Jeremy Tache]

So here we are.

[Dan LeBatard]

Can you imagine being met with brava, Inspired after failing nine times?

[Billy Corben]

I think. I think he would. The Knicks would still get credit for the hire. And you know what? James Dolan, with that hire, would go a long way to refiguring his entire negative image into a positive.

[Stugotz]

Nope.

[Billy Corben]

I think so.

[Stugotz]

Nope.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I think this. This move would get crushed.

[Mike Ryan]

Really?

[Dan LeBatard]

By the fan base? Yeah, I think it would.

[Stugotz]

I wasn't even doing that. I'm saying there is no move that Dolan can make.

[Mike Ryan]

The sphere.

[Stugotz]

I mean, all the Dolan, the Sphere.

[Mike Ryan]

People are looking at Jimmy Dolan. Whoa. Look at this.

[Billy Corben]

If ever a move you can make to transform your image, it's making history with a hire such as this.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think we're there. We weren't there a couple years ago. And wherever we were a couple years ago, we're further away from now. I just think it'd get crapped on by that fan base.

[Stugotz]

I don't know what that fan base wants because it's not available. So whatever's going to be better than Thibodeau isn't something that is going to appear in any form. There's no place from which. I mean, if Jason Kidd is in play, I don't know if that makes everybody enthusiastic, but they're stuck in a situation where they're unlikely to do anyone who brings any more enthusiasm than Thibodeau, and now they're testing themselves against the idea that Thibodeau is somehow addition by subtraction.

[Dan LeBatard]

Look, I know that this is going to sound shocking and please keep in mind I'm speaking to a relative fan base. Right. I think they want a dude.

[Stugotz]

Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think they'd want a dude.

[Stugotz]

I'm glad we talked this through.

[Billy Corben]

Okay. Fool them. Maybe dawn can spell her name. Dio.

[Dan LeBatard]

And yeah, who's this? Donald Staley.

[Billy Corben]

Right.

[Stugotz]

A New dawn is the tabloid headline. Billy made fun of the Heat in there. Duncan Robinson opts out of his contract. I can't believe I'm about to say what I'm about to say, but it is absolutely true. Duncan Robinson is the single best shooter in franchise history and his story might be better than that. Just what he formed himself into as a value as a 10 year veteran of the NBA that is now opting out of a contract. And I think we were surprised by that. And then the next reporting on that seemed to all be Duncan's working with the team and, and I hope he is, and maybe he is, but I don't know what will appear in terms of offers as teams now all sign their own free agents because free agency opens today and everyone seems to just be signing their own guys. So I'm assuming that Duncan Robinson is working with the team on however it is that they get him to more money and flexibility. But this really is one of the great success stories in franchise history and that won't change for me if at the end here he decides, oh, there's a big offer over there somewhere. That's because that shooting is going to be valuable in this league. Like no matter what, that kind of shooting is going to have value for the next five years.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's a curious player, curious case study because he is in many respects one of the first examples of culture. Culture personified developmental skills by the organization, but also highly criticized despite bringing himself up to that level because he shrinks in moments. I think maybe we were laughing back here. I think his biggest moment in a Heat uniform is probably putting Wembanyama in a blender. Yeah, I guess team friendly. If you want to be loyal to the team that will probably actively shop you come February.

[Stugotz]

No, Mark Stein's already reporting that Detroit is interested in a sign and trade and he's going to have value for the same reason that Desmond Bain has value. Like if you. No, no, no, no. It's. I'm not saying he's Desmond Bain and I'm not saying he's going to bring back Five picks. I'm saying that for the same reason. If you're bad at three point shooting and you can get one of the best shooters that's going to have values to teams like Houston and like Orlando who were bad at those things.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, I mean I just keep thinking just central Heat focus. Strust took his job for a reason. Struse left. Schrouss was a good signing for Cleveland. Duncan Robinson has not been as good as Truce and I think just further confirmed why that was the right decision back then.

[Jeremy Tache]

I think those are two different players. Right. Duncan is not the same guy that Max is. Max is a more well rounded player and he was that from the day he showed up. He was just playing the shooter role on the Heats team, but he also was able to do some different things. The thing with Duncan that's so cool is like you're talking, talking about this Division 3 player that then goes D1, that goes undrafted, that ends up working his way through the G League to get to the Heat and then earns this giant contract. And that's really where he became polarizing because he made $90 million and Heat fans expected a certain level of performance and a certain level of growth. But he did grow his game after going back to the bench and being totally shifted out of the roster. Then he ends up back in the rotation and he's been in and out. He's been a professional the whole way through. If this is it with Duncan, he is the greatest shooter in franchise history to this point and that's pretty special. I'd love to see him back, but. Okay, back to you, Eric.

[Billy Corben]

I, I think the majority opinion on Duncan Robinson is that he was grossly overpaid and hasn't quite ever lived up to his contract. And if he leaves in free agency there won't be a lot of flowers and tears and, and that's not even anti Duncan Robinson. I think I'm representing what most Heat fans feel about him.

[Chris Cody]

He should end all his Heat takes.

[Jeremy Tache]

It back to you, Eric killed me man. Let's make it clear to the audio audience because our voices can be similar. That was Chris.

[Dan LeBatard]

I said that that's how you sign off.

[Billy Corben]

He just.

[Stugotz]

There's just six seconds of extra fat on everything.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm not gonna miss Duncan Robinson. But if he wants to re up for a team friendly deal that may or may not be adhered to by this organization in the coming years, cool. We can start having the jersey retirement conversation. I guess because he is going to hold all these records and yes. While statistically he's the greatest shooter in franchise history. Stop.

[Chris Cody]

That jersey ain't going up.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's not. He's not. I've seen better shooters wear that uniform. Game six for your life.

[Stugotz]

I'm gonna stop you there. The Heat are 49 and 13 when Duncan Robinson has scored 20 plus points. The Pistons need shooting, at least in part because Malik Beasley is in the middle of a bunch of gambling stuff. He was about to get a three year, $40 million contract and now there's an investigation going on and there are going to be more of these in the coming years as some of the gambling money seeps into the locker rooms. And you're going to get players who get embroiled in this stuff. So the Pistons, who are, who are this far away, right, because they came very close to beating the Knicks, were probably good enough to beat the Knicks. You assume they will grow. You assume they will get better. The Pistons are young and hungry and people view them as a legitimate contender now because they expect an improvement from Detroit. This ignores how good Cleveland was all season, but I do think most people believe Detroit is coming. And stunningly, when we did that live watch party with Mero and Sam Morrill, both of them gave more respect to the Pistons as a feared opponent in the future than the Pacers, which I thought was crazy.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, they're hating ass haters, Dan. That's what they were doing there. There's the rumor innuendo on social media is that there was a string of games in which Malik Beasley came well under his rebound average and there was a lot of sharp action based off of his rebound props. So that's what appears to be at the at the core of this investigation.

[Jeremy Tache]

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[Billy Corben]

I think you're on mute.

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[Stugotz]

I think you're on mute.

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[Billy Corben]

Don LeBatard My wife says this is a sexy voice.

[Mike Ryan]

It really is. Yeah, I'm hard.

[Billy Corben]

Thank you.

[Stugotz]

Wow, Stugats.

[Billy Corben]

So am I, actually. I don't know why.

[Mike Ryan]

This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats.

[Stugotz]

I am sorry that I did this to Billy because I saw that he came in today. Bounding into the office is because the Marlins are mashing the baseball.

[Mike Ryan]

Best team in baseball.

[Stugotz]

They've won. Well, the Rays in their last.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, enough with the Rays, please. I'm so tired of the Rays. Get a stadium. Leave me alone. Raise.

[Stugotz]

Last 40. The Rays are better than anybody.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, last 40. How about the last six, eight, nine?

[Stugotz]

The Marlins are whatever. The Marlins have won their last seven in a row. They win three at Arizona and three.

[Mike Ryan]

At San Francisco before that. And then take out kind of the home stand and then three at San Francisco and this team's hot.

[Stugotz]

Those are decent teams.

[Mike Ryan]

Road Warriors.

[Chris Cody]

The first time they've ever won 6 and 0 for a road Trip.

[Stugotz]

They. Well, and they're hitting the ball like a ton. They're beating like, the Diamondbacks hit the ball. And so when you're beating them nine, eight, and you're beating them late and the Giants are better than the Diamondbacks, that. That was a fun road trip. The Marlins started the season so poorly that a lot of people haven't noticed that they've been mashing. Yeah, Billy came in happy.

[Mike Ryan]

Of course I'm happy. Why would I not be happy? And we're headed into Fourth of July week. It just feels like a special week. Now Marlin's coming home the 4th of July. You know, there's a number of giveaways that, I mean, be going to get.

[Billy Corben]

There's.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't. The thing is this. Here's the thing about the giveaways, right? It's the quantities. It's not. I don't know if you guys have noticed. The Marlins haven't had the greatest of attendances this season.

[Billy Corben]

Really.

[Mike Ryan]

So, like, tomorrow there's a nice Guayabera giveaway, but it's only for the first 3,000 fans. And then I need to start playing the game where it's like, okay, 3,000 fans, but there's four entrances. Are we divvying up how they give away the Guayabera? So each entrance has the same one. Do I go to a less populated entrance to get one? How early do I have to get there? Because my experience the past couple times I've gone is I don't get the giveaway. And then I look around and I start doing some, you know, finger math where I'm trying to count. I'm like, I don't think that there's 7,500 people here right now an hour before the game. But I still didn't get, you know, this hippie hoppa hat that I was promised. So I'm kind of trying to look around and figure out what time do I get there if I want to get the guayabera? And then the follow up is. Seems cool. I don't know the quality of it just yet. I haven't seen. I've seen a photo, but I haven't seen the quality. But it does look good. But do I then wear a Guayabera with a Marlins logo on it somewhere after the fact? Like, if I have a, you know, family member that passes and we decide that we're gonna go a little more casual to the funeral, do I wear a Marlins embroidered Guayabera there? I don't know. I don't know. Fourth of July is coming up. I saw that on the fifth. They're giving away this giant American flag jersey. I don't think I'm make it there for that. But the fourth, you get fireworks indoors. Here's the thing about fireworks on the 4th of July. Besides, Dan maybe trying to kill his family members with it. Burn down houses, cars, what a guy of ada. Marlins park is a safe place to see fireworks. You have to go through security, right? I mean, I don't want to scare people, but fireworks shows kind of scare me a little bit. Lots of loud. It's dark, there's lots of explosions. You don't know what's going on. It's like room for chaos.

[Stugotz]

That's what. But that's the whole point of fireworks. You just described.

[Mike Ryan]

That was quaint and fun in the 70s, not in today's.

[Stugotz]

Are you guys fireworks people? Any of you?

[Chris Cody]

I'm like you. I'll go to a store, spend a hundred bucks.

[Billy Corben]

It's hopeless to buy your own fireworks. You can't compete. The city is going to have a better fireworks show than you do in your own backyard. My neighbors in the street, every year, they do the fireworks thing. Yeah, it's fun. It's fun.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know, it's seen one, you've seen them all.

[Billy Corben]

You've seen one, you've seen them all. They're small scale. And then you look up in the sky and here's the city going boom, boom, boom, bloom. And it's a beautiful thing. You can't compete with that by spending 150 bucks in this beach.

[Chris Cody]

You're living, though, when you jog away from that little sad little box right there and you're like, I hope it doesn't tip over. Like, that's living.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know what's fun? Lighting one of those little black snakes.

[Chris Cody]

It's the most dangerous thing I do.

[Dan LeBatard]

A little tablet. Just take a little lighter there.

[Chris Cody]

My wife's like, honey, don't do like. No, I'm like, I'm doing it. I'm lighting it. I got it. Stand back. Grab Graceland.

[Stugotz]

I got this.

[Chris Cody]

I'm going in.

[Stugotz]

Put it on the pole, please. Are you really living if you're not.

[Chris Cody]

Running away scared from the Chris.

[Mike Ryan]

You ever have the one, you light it and it tips over. You're like, there's still time. There's still time to stand it up. And you try to stand it up.

[Chris Cody]

I usually just jump on my daughter at that point. It tilts over at all.

[Billy Corben]

What a hero.

[Dan LeBatard]

So whack everyone's got nine and a half beers in them.

[Chris Cody]

So, like, the street you're on, so dark, so it's like black, and all.

[Stugotz]

Of a sudden and for sure farts.

[Dan LeBatard]

Out a little sparkle.

[Billy Corben]

Nobody's seeing it but you and your family.

[Stugotz]

You know what? I even considered the stupidity of what I put my likes in down for on Saturday really dumb, because I thought. I got to be honest, I get to the front there and I'm.

[Dan LeBatard]

To me, there is no bigger red flag than. Dude, that is way too excited to light off fireworks.

[Chris Cody]

Sad fireworks.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, the sad ones.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, we got it.

[Mike Ryan]

You got guns at home from two counties away.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. Oh, my God. A guy that drives down to the.

[Mike Ryan]

Why Dania to buy fireworks.

[Dan LeBatard]

You and I do not have anything in common.

[Stugotz]

I was already in Dania, and I was just driving down the street, Billy. And on the other side of the street was a fireworks display.

[Billy Corben]

I know.

[Stugotz]

Please stop making me drive 50 minutes on a pilgrimage to go buy fireworks.

[Mike Ryan]

It is far.

[Chris Cody]

If you stop by Jackson, that's a nice little Saturday.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know what? You know what I tell somebody when they tell me, hey, man, I just drove like two counties over to get all these fireworks? I tell them immediately, I know exactly how you voted.

[Stugotz]

Okay. The thing that I did, though, that I want. I'd love to be able to get the security footage of, because you would have seen me coming to the front instead of getting a cart or anything, just trying to carry as many explosives toward the front as I could. And so when I got there and they only charged me $130, I couldn't believe it. I thought I had gotten. I'm leaving with three bags worth of explosives that I had to give my license for. And then as I'm driving home, I'm thinking to myself, smoking a cigar in the car with the fireworks next to me that I'm thinking to myself as I'm doing this, I'm like, in a couple days, a whole bunch of people who don't have any experience with explosives are going to be firing them away at each other on our national holiday, and I'm going to be one of them. And surely hospitalizations go that. Is there a day we get more injured in America than July 4th? Like, if. If you had to. If you had to guess, is it what one day more than any other in America injures the most Americans because they're just whatever, partying and around explosives. Wouldn't July 4th be your guess?

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, that's. That's my default guess. And I think that outnumbers the next five most likely dangerous days.

[Stugotz]

What would be second most dangerous?

[Mike Ryan]

According to AI on Google, the Fourth of July is often cited as the holiday with the most injuries, while Thanksgiving and New Year's Day also have high numbers of injuries and fatalities.

[Jeremy Tache]

According to the Ryan Law group, the number one day for traffic fatalities is July 4th. For whatever reason, the second is August 2nd.

[Mike Ryan]

Wow.

[Jeremy Tache]

Appears right in the middle of the summer. And the bell curve for driving fatalities.

[Dan LeBatard]

New year's day is second. Second for similar reasons because they're fireworks.

[Chris Cody]

And drinks behind August 2nd.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, Jeremy, I was not expecting to get halfway through the season and have for the first time this season, a reason to talk about the Marlins that isn't Ryan Weathers getting hit in the head by a baseball because the catcher is trying to make a practice throw to second base. There was no reason to talk about the Marlins at all. But winning these games this way against those teams on the road and at least sets the Marlins up to please give us games that matter this this week. At least they're giving us games that matter this week, which isn't where I thought I'd be this season.

[Jeremy Tache]

Hey, look, you're headed into July eight games under.500. And you know what? Last year, you know who was eight games under.500 headed into July? The Detroit Tigers, who still sold off at the deadline but ended up making a run late in the season as a playoff push. Do I think that that's what's going to happen here with the Marlins? Who knows. But what is fun is that they traded for Kyle Stowers and Connor Norby and Stowers has been maybe their best offensive player. Dane Myers has emerged as a legitimate everyday center fielder. Otto Lopez playing shortstop since the start of this month. He's top five in war according to fan graphs. He's hitting over.300. He's been spectacular defensively. Augustine Ramirez, who they call up, has been mashing. He's the fir. He's the first guy in several categories to do what Giancarlo Stanton was doing early in career. No, it he had extra base hits. I believe he had multiple doubles in three straight games or something like that. And it ended up being the first guy since Stanton Lopez with a stretch here of nine RBIs. It's. It's really fun to watch players develop and grow together and win a bunch of games in a row and who knows where the season goes. But this has been a really fun, entertaining team, playing competitive.

[Stugotz]

What are you shaking your head about?

[Mike Ryan]

He's ruining it for me. Like, I was excited, I was having fun. And now, I don't know. He's.

[Jeremy Tache]

Then I spoke and everything went for.

[Mike Ryan]

Me a little bit. Yeah. And he started it out with. Is this team gonna do. I think this team is gonna do what the Tigers did last year. Who knows? Well, you would know. Do you feel that way? Do you think that they're gonna do a chair bear?

[Jeremy Tache]

I think that the team has some really fun pieces that can continue to compete because this isn't a total fluke in playing competitive games. They've played a lot of close games all season long. They've lost a lot of those close nails.

[Mike Ryan]

A board or something.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's a little unfair.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Tache]

Should I just go?

[Dan LeBatard]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

He's getting Jeremy.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm sorry.

[Mike Ryan]

Be nice to Jeremy.

[Jeremy Tache]

Can we look, Last week sucked. I thought I was coming in with a better end.

[Mike Ryan]

Really?

[Dan LeBatard]

No. Jeremy, you're a talent. Let's be judicious with this. Come on. He's working hard. Proceed. Go for it.

[Jeremy Tache]

15 RBIs in the last seven games for Otto Lopez, most for a Marlins hitter in a seven game span since Hanley Ramirez in 2009.

[Billy Corben]

Things are a stat.

[Dan LeBatard]

Back to you, air. Okay, you gotta at least say that.

[Billy Corben]

I have to say one thing about the Marlins and I by nature am not a person who's always going to look for the negative in what is on the surface positive. But this allows Bruce Sherman, one of the cheapest owners in all of sports, not just baseball, to justify not spending. And I would ask this of Marlins fans and answer me honestly, doesn't this mean. Shouldn't this mean that the Marlins are now not sellers, but buyers? At the trade deadline, they're going to still trade Alcantara and it's going to be evidence that they. All their priority is. Is divesting.

[Stugotz]

No, but wait a minute. They'll be trading him at his lowest possible value. Like they'd be.

[Mike Ryan]

No, he's been hot.

[Billy Corben]

He's been better.

[Mike Ryan]

He's been hot.

[Jeremy Tache]

The last start was bad, but he had been really good before.

[Mike Ryan]

He's improved his draft stock or his trade value.

[Stugotz]

He has trade value again in the last month.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Plus he's under. He's signed for the next couple years. It's not like this is a one year rental for him that you're gonna have to give up the farm and then you might lose him. He's under contract and he's figured it out or he's turned it around as.

[Jeremy Tache]

Of late, especially because he was Coming off Tommy John. So this was really his chance to have a spring training in those first couple of months as he rehabbed, it was sort of timing. This last month, he's finally felt like himself.

[Billy Corben]

My. My point is, does this mean the Marlins are now going to say, hey, hey, we can be this year's Tigers? We're gonna buy. We're gonna spend.

[Chris Cody]

Tigers sold last year.

[Billy Corben]

Yep. Okay, but. Yeah, but. But they still were a winning team.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Tache]

Yeah. Okay, but they did that. The mom still following the path that they wanted to as a franchise, which was they traded away Jack Flaherty, who was one of their top starters, but they held on to Tarek Skubal, who's a Cy Young Award winner.

[Chris Cody]

That guy's good.

[Jeremy Tache]

That would.

[Dan LeBatard]

That dude rocks.

[Mike Ryan]

He's amazing.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's amazing.

[Jeremy Tache]

He's awesome.

[Mike Ryan]

Hold on.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's go.

[Jessica]

Let's stay there.

[Jeremy Tache]

I love that guy.

[Mike Ryan]

Let's get one of those, huh?

[Stugotz]

Well, we. We had one.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, but then the old tj.

[Stugotz]

Well, you say the old tj, but Ohtani just threw the ball.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, please. Bullshit with Ohtani. I'm so tired of this Ohtani crap. He's throwing an inning and a half every time. Can we stop celebrating that? He's throwing 103 miles an hour. He's throwing 25 pitches. Like this is a circus and a dog and pony show with Ohtani. Oh, look at what. How hard he's throwing.

[Jeremy Tache]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

How about you get to five innings? How do we get to four innings? He's pitching two innings a game. Like, it's ridiculous that we're celebrating as some glorious comeback. He's not going deep into any of these games. We're just doing it for clicks and social this and that and likes and instaface. Enough. How about you pitch an entire game, Ohtani, or give someone else a shot.

[Billy Corben]

That's going to bring back the complete game.

[Mike Ryan]

Not even a complete game. How about qualify for a win? Pitch long enough where you can qualify for a win. Ohtani, please. How about you pick a position also, guys taking up all these roster spots and jobs that people can have. Ridiculous.

[Billy Corben]

Journeyman.

[Mike Ryan]

Wait, what?

[Stugotz]

What?

[Billy Corben]

He's a journeyman.

[Mike Ryan]

He's had quite a journey.

[Billy Corben]

Can't pick a position. Is he a pitcher? Is he a hitter? Nobody knows.

[Mike Ryan]

Nobody knows.

[Billy Corben]

Nobody's sure.

[Stugotz]

Anyway. Ohtani threw a baseball harder than he ever has. But I'd like to meet the enthusiasm of discovery on Skubal that Chris Cody and Mike Ryan had, because when I saw him pitch at the beginning of last year because of how he throws a baseball and body type. The first time I saw a baseball come out of his hand I'm like, that's the hardest thing a left hander has ever thrown. That's better than Kershaw. That's something that's not hittable by human beings in any way. And he's only gotten better since then. And last night the Twins, a good baseball team, are a monster dog because everyone now knows when school pitches it's seven innings, one hit and you're going to strike out 13 last night. And it's like how does anyone hit that? No one can hit that. That's not hittable. He's going to have an like. The only thing that fails that is is injury. There's. He's too physically strong for, for hitters for human beings to do anything. What he's throwing with what he's throwing.

[Dan LeBatard]

I've seen about six of his starts on the MLB package and I'm just blown away by how fearless he is. Gas and then just not intimidated at all. Goes right at guys and a change up from hell. It's from hell. It's crazy. He pulls it back like it's on a string. The guy's awesome.

[Stugotz]

I feel like hell is filled with all sorts of change ups, don't you? Where you're just wandering through hell.

[Dan LeBatard]

No. For me it's like to trick.

[Mike Ryan]

It's the heat. No. Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

No. It's like 84 miles per hour from Jamie Moyer. That's hell.

[Billy Corben]

Scuba dooble doo.

[Mike Ryan]

He's right.

[Jessica]

What?

[Stugotz]

They should have had a moment of mourning. They really should have. For the loophole being closed in hockey that allowed the, the, the Lightning and the Panthers to sneak people in at the end of the season and break the salary cap in half. They are now through the new collective bargaining agreement that's going to save hockey for at least the next five years. Ev they're eliminating the thing that Florida used. The state of Florida used to its advantage better than anybody, which is winning with a. An accounting loophole of we can slide Tkachuk in once the playoffs start. Let him sit the second half of the season and even though he was hurt in the Four nations. Go out and get Seth Jones and Marshan Marshawn because stashed away they've now eliminated the ability to do that accounting loophole. Can we have a moment of silence or something? Can we do a ceremony for it?

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm pumped up about it. I think it's great. And you were right to say the State of Florida is better than any other state at this. This is a Vegas Golden Knights thing. This is where Florida had lost to a team. They were decimated by injuries. They, they got crushed by Vegas that absolutely has done this every single year. It was, it was a, a point of pride really for Florida that they hadn't until this year they had already won their cup, made it to a previous one that they hadn't used that loophole that other teams that they have been taking out along the way have been using. And I'm glad that they closed it up. Glad you. Let's make it a uniform rule. Bill Zito can follow it better than anybody. Let's do it. He's already proven it to us.

[Stugotz]

No, but Chris, let's. We need to do a ceremony that we need to put it up in the rafters or something. This is. Look, man, if I had to have in the Hockey hall of Fame something From the last 10 years years, an item, a lever, something that would be mechanical that I would put in the hall of Fame. I'd have to consider this rule given what it's done for Vegas, Tampa and Florida over the last decade.

[Dan LeBatard]

They're also doing some stuff to, to try to squash tampering which is out of hand in that sport. I mean, people in league circles have known about Marner to Vegas for months before he hits free agency. I do have some tea as a.

[Stugotz]

Well, wait a minute. What ranking is this? What ranking is T versus I happen to know, and I know for a fact what is the hierarchy of Mike's reporting.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is not firsthand information. This is me comparing notes with other information people. For whatever reason, I'm super dialed to what Carolina's doing. Expect dealers there. But Florida is trying to bring back those three. If you're counting on a haircut for Brad Marchand possibly. I'm sure he can command more in an open market, but it's not that super team friendly. Florida's offering him basically what Boston offered him before he rejected that, which is a contract that I think is dead in the middle of the average annual value in the NHL. Ekblad is torn. Florida's doing what they can to put something in front of him that he'll take. I know Carolina's going to be super aggressive when it comes to Ekblad and if he went out to the free agency market, he'd command more than he got here. We already saw with Sam Bennett. He's locked in and that's a crazy great value that's going to be A great contract, especially with a collective bargaining agreement that's going to see the salary cap go up and up. Florida's got a team that's going to be around for a while. These guys are in their late 20s. They're going to hang around. They're going to be, they're going to have a say in the next few cups and that's incredible. But we'll see. On Brad Marchand, he's apparently torn 5050 on. On whether or not to take Florida's present offer.

[Stugotz]

What do you want him to do.

[Dan LeBatard]

If he, if he takes it? That's that. I don't think it's a great annual value for a 37 year old player. That showed you this season sale signs of tailing off. And it was only until he got put on one of the best third lines in the history of the game that he resuscitates.

[Stugotz]

What do you want him to do.

[Dan LeBatard]

If he comes back? I don't want him here, I don't want him here at that number. But if he comes back here, you ride with your guys and you trust the gm. That's where I'm at. I think Bill Zito's earned that. If Bill Zito says we're going to bring back these three guys and that's move and you're fine getting rid of guys like Evan Rodriguez, which is probably something that you're going to have to do. A guy that makes about half that annually, that is proven to you over the last two playoffs. Evan Rodriguez has had 30 points for this team. He was massive in the previous cup win. He's a two way player. He's on a team friendly deal. But you're going to have to get rid of guys like that. And if you have confidence in how Brad Marchand's going to age, I think me ultimately I defer to the gift.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Evan Rodriguez, I want anyone who knows him, who listens to this show to remind him that he owes us a shirtless visit to this show where he pretends to ride a roller coaster. He said he was going to do that if they won the championship the first time. They've since won two championships. He owes that to the show. Before he leaves the Panthers, Mike Ryan said the dishing of tea, I don't know where it is or why it is that that is an expression, but the giving of tea, did that rise to the level of tea giving? Whatever it is that he's saying there, he had some tea to serve us. Did it rise to the. Of being worthy of the Jump off of. I have some tea for you.

[Billy Corben]

I'm going to be honest. It was a little weak. It was a little tepid.

[Stugotz]

Weak tea.

[Billy Corben]

Cool. Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

I. That's what the offer is for Brad Marchand, and he's currently 5050 on whether or not he takes it in.

[Billy Corben]

Zito. We trust.

[Stugotz]

That stronger tea.

[Billy Corben]

That's. Well, listen, it's how. It's a crime.

[Dan LeBatard]

Information.

[Billy Corben]

It's a crime. No, it's just an opinion. It's a crime that Zito.

[Stugotz]

But it had more. It had more testosterone in it, so it had higher tea.

[Billy Corben]

Thank you very much. For the fourth time in five years, Zito is a finalist for GM of the Year and has passed by again. What does this guy have to do? How many championships does he have to win to be the bleeping general manager of the year in hockey? Whoa. I tell you, there is a collusion by the voters against Bill Zeto.

[Stugotz]

Whoa.

[Billy Corben]

This needs to be investigated by the NHL.

[Stugotz]

All right, hold on a second. Now. Take that take to the highest level. Like, please talk to a camera right now. And you seem legitimately outraged that Bill Zito is an Executive of the year.

[Billy Corben]

Zito has been the best at doing what he does in that sport, arguably the best in all sports over the past four years. He keeps being nominated. And I'm half serious when I say, who are these voters? I think it's a panel of like 16 or 18 people. It's malfeasance, what they're doing by not honoring this guy after a second straight Stanley cup, after stealing Brad Marchand from Boston, after. After getting Seth Jones. This guy has been brilliant for the Panthers. Brilliant unlike anybody else in this market and maybe nationally. And it's a crime in that sport that he hasn't won GM of the Year.

[Mike Ryan]

Stop being a homer, Bo.

[Stugotz]

You weren't looking at the right camera at any point during that.

[Billy Corben]

Hey, let the camera look at me.

[Stugotz]

You know what?

[Dan LeBatard]

That's high tea.

[Stugotz]

You know what? Okay. Have any of you seen A Football Life with Jimmie Johnson? Have any.

[Dan LeBatard]

Weren't you in that?

[Stugotz]

I was, but I had never seen it until this week. Weekend. And I saw a story in there that I had not heard before about Jimmie Johnson and where his relationship with Jerry Jones ended. And I just did not know this. It was Barry Switzer and Larry Lacewell who were telling the story, and they were just saying this is where this ego clash between Jerry Jones and Jimmie Johnson ended. Why are you looking around?

[Billy Corben]

You know, people in my ear are shouting and whispering, trying to be a.

[Mike Ryan]

Professional here, shouting and wishing.

[Stugotz]

So you just distracted me by looking the entire time I was talking.

[Billy Corben]

You know, go buy some more fireworks. Amuse yourself.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, it is fair you're criticizing him for being distracted, but accusing him of distracting you.

[Billy Corben]

Thank you.

[Dan LeBatard]

What's the Jimmy Johnson point, Dano?

[Stugotz]

So Jerry Jones, you know, Jimmy Johnson has a rule, and everyone knows he's got a rule. No one in the locker room right after the game. No one in the locker room right after the game. It's just me and the team. And Jerry Jones just barges in and barges in with the Prince. And Jerry, Jimmy Johnson is furious and doesn't want him in there.

[Dan LeBatard]

And he's like, I have a rule with a prince.

[Stugotz]

With a prince, yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Not Prince.

[Stugotz]

No, a Prince. A Prince Fielder. I have a rule. And he tells Jerry Jones, I have a rule. And Jerry Jones's response is, I have a rule, too. I own the team.