Local Hour: Mamba Mendality

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Local Hour: Mamba Mendality
Date: March 12, 2026

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Episode Overview

Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the show’s diverse cast dive deep into the aftermath of Bam Adebayo’s historic 83-point game for the Miami Heat. They dissect the meaning and validity of scoring outbursts in the NBA, celebrate and defend Bam’s accomplishment, and examine the lingering legacy of "Mamba Mentality" in basketball culture. The crew also explores the value of defense versus offense, the Heat's internal philosophy on roster building, and reactions from NBA peers. Interwoven throughout are trademark moments of humor, cultural commentary, and the group’s infectious banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Are Historic NBA Scoring Exploits Legit?

(01:14–03:16)

• Mike Ryan notes how analyst Tom Haberstroh and CBS's Sam Quinn have “put an asterisk” on historic scoring games, including Kobe Bryant’s 81 and Wilt Chamberlain’s 100, often citing “bullshit” circumstances like meaningless late-game points, weak defenses, or noncompetitive situations.
• Zas: “Don’t we have to or can’t we all just acknowledge the only way a player can score that many points in a game? There has to be bullshit, right?” (02:01)
• The group debates whether modern players could surpass 100 points with the current pace and shooting.
• Jeremy: “I think in the modern game...we will see 100 in our lifetime just because there’s going to be a marksman from outside that doesn’t miss.” (02:19)

2. Bam’s 83: Just How Impressive Was It?

(03:16–06:21)

• Bam’s first quarter performance, including as many threes as he’d made in his first five seasons, is called “the most impressive thing I’ve ever seen in a Heat uniform.” (Mike Ryan, 02:38)
• Dan Le Batard: “He got to 70 points with about seven minutes left in the game and he was shooting over 50% from the field and over 40% from three. His stats were unbelievable. And then the bullshit started in.” (03:16)
• They joke about visibly seeing Bam’s fatigue, referencing his color-drained jersey by game’s end.

3. Defense vs. Offense: Bam Adebayo’s True Value

(04:29–10:48)

• Mike Ryan explores whether Bam can be considered as central to the Heat’s defense as Dwyane Wade was to their offense.
• Mike Ryan: “Bam’s defense always makes them top five...It’s always because Bam Adebayo is at the center of their defense.” (05:56)
• Zas and Jeremy push back, emphasizing that offense wins championships: “I don’t think that Bam can be the best player on your team and you win a championship. And I know Dwyane Wade could be.” (Zas, 08:27)
• Group consensus? The Heat’s philosophy values building from defense out—offensive output is considered replaceable, while Bam is the rare defensive anchor who is “untouchable.”

4. Dwyane Wade Chimes In: “Show Me” Standard

(11:49–14:19)

• An impassioned Dwyane Wade interview is played, in which he says:

  • “Let me say things, right? The organization can’t do or say certain things that I can say...I’ll hold the organization to a standard whether you like it or not...I’m damn sure from the show me state—Show me. Seeing is believing. Just like I said to Bam on the show...Show me that you are one of them dudes that we know you are. And that’s what you doing right now.” (Dwyane Wade, 11:49)
  • On his Heat legacy: “Don’t name a county after me if y’all don’t like that I’m always going to hold us to a standard, baby. It’s Wade County.” (14:08)

• Dan’s take: “Sounds like a victory lap to me.”

• The group reflects on how Wade now relishes his elder statesman, truth-teller role—saying things current staff can’t and firing up the team through external criticism.

5. Players Respond: Around the NBA on Bam’s 83

(22:32–25:22)

• Mike Ryan: “Great response from Bam Adebayo’s peers. He’s very popular amongst his peers, so there’s that.” (22:23)
• Kevin Durant (23:13): “Congratulations to Bam on how much work he puts in...Set a record, surpass Kobe...Damn, congrats to him.”
• Lou Williams (25:22): “Super impressive...Washington, they tried to stop him from getting it, look like the 81 points...Those were legitimate fouls. They couldn’t stop him. They were fouling him...A lot of that was just bully ball.”
• Observations on how rare it is to see a league-wide, peer-supported outpouring for a Heat star.

6. Debate About the ‘Mamba Mentality’

(19:55–21:57; 36:54–39:34)

• Dan: “What I was taught is that Mamba mentality is continuing to go for records...You think Kobe Bryant would have taken himself out to honor some other legend rather than setting a record?” (19:57)
• Hilarious and self-aware group exchange about whether Dan, as a non-player, can use “Mamba Mentality” unironically—or if that’s cultural appropriation.
• Roy: “Dan, he threw it up to me, and I was like, oh, that’s good. But...if I say it, it’s good. If you say it, not good.” (21:51)

7. Media, Fans, and Conflict: The Heat Culture

(16:07–19:45; 22:32–27:39)

• Zas criticizes segments of Heat fans and national analysts for undermining Bam’s achievement because of the high free throw count and supposed game “bullshit.”
• Discussion of how conflict (e.g., locker room agitation, criticism) is fuel for NBA players, unlike typical workplaces.
• Mike Ryan: “Pissed off is fuel...They thrive on conflict. It’s very different from most other workplaces.” (15:01)

8. Physical Toll & Rarity of Such Games

(28:46–30:24)

• The show reflects on the physical demands of Bam’s accomplishment: “Playing that style, it hurts...shooting 43 free throws hurts.” (Roy, 28:46)
• Curiosity over how Bam physically feels after—the group attempts to secure a follow-up interview.

9. Cultural Clashes and Social Moments

(39:34–44:32)

• The show closes its main discussion highlighting the blending of sports, Miami, and personal stories—whether it’s about Kyle Sacco’s sideline interviews, Heat broadcast assignments, or “who got to be on TV for the biggest nights.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dwyane Wade:

  • “I’ll hold the organization to a standard whether you like it or not.”
  • “Show me that you are one of them dudes that we know you are. And that’s what you doing right now.” (11:49)
  • “Don’t name a county after me if y’all don’t like that I’m always going to hold us to a standard, baby. It’s Wade County.” (14:08)

• Mike Ryan:

  • “Bam’s defense always makes them top five.” (05:56)
  • “Pissed off is fuel. Pissed off is something that, you know, Dwyane Wade learned in an organization where Shaq and Mourning would go face to face with Riley.” (15:01)

• Kevin Durant:

  • “Congratulations to Bam on how much work he puts in...It takes a lot of stamina, man...congrats to him. That’s as nice as you’ll ever hear Kevin Durant talking to the media.” (23:13)

• Lou Williams:

  • “I got no complaints. I got no criticisms...A lot of those fouls...were supposed to be finished because he was fouled in the act of shooting. Once you get that close to the fire, I’m going for it.” (25:22)

• Roy:

  • “All you remember is 81, Wilt 100. You don’t remember that.” (24:26)

• Zas:

  • “I don’t think that Bam can be the best player on your team and you win a championship. And I know Dwyane Wade could be.” (08:27)

• Dan Le Batard:

  • “You think Kobe Bryant would have taken himself out to honor some other legend rather than setting a record?” (20:25)
  • “Sounds like a victory lap to me.” (12:42)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:14] – Debate on legitimacy of 70/80/100-point games
• [03:16] – Bam’s first quarter magic & statistical breakdown
• [05:36] – Defense vs. offense; Bam Adebayo’s value
• [11:49] – Dwyane Wade’s fiery “Show Me” monologue
• [22:23] – Peer reactions from Kevin Durant, Lou Williams
• [19:55] – “Mamba Mentality” and who can claim it
• [28:46] – Physical toll of 83-point effort
• [36:54] – More “Mamba Mentality” and viral clip jokes

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Tone and Style

The episode is a lively and affectionate examination of Heat culture, big moments in sports, and the meaning of excellence under public scrutiny. Punctuated by group ribbing, cultural awareness, Miami pride, and reverence for basketball legends—most notably Dwyane Wade and Bam Adebayo—there’s an undercurrent of both critique and love for the oddities of sports debate culture. The banter is as sharp and fast-paced as the team’s ball movement, with room for vulnerability, inside jokes, and a dose of meta-commentary about the media itself.

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Summary

This “Local Hour” is a mosaic of fandom, legacy, and sports culture, focusing on Bam Adebayo’s record-shattering performance, but flowing seamlessly into debates about what deserves celebration, how defense is (under)appreciated, and how legends like Dwyane Wade continue to shape the Heat’s identity. With perspectives from inside the building and across the NBA, the episode cements why, for Miami and its fans, standards are sacred—whether you call it “Heat culture,” “Wade County,” or, yes, “Mamba Mentality.”

Transcript

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Zas]

Don't we have to or can't we all just acknowledge the only way a player can score that many points in a game? There has to be bullshit, right?

[Mike Ryan]

I don't think that you can get to a hundred without bullshit.

[Jeremy]

I think in the modern game it's possible that I do think that we will see 100 in our lifetime just because there's going to be a marksman from outside that doesn't miss.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, but the greatest quarter I've seen is Klay Thompson's right. He had 37 points. Did he make 10 threes in that

[Jeremy]

quarter I think that's the scenario in which unless the rules change, that you're going to see somebody go.

[Mike Ryan]

This is why I'm telling you guys, though, that the Bam first quarter is the most impressive thing I've ever seen in a Heat uniform during a regular season game. The first quarter, when you're looking at a guy who, and you've seen the stats over the last couple of days here, he made as many threes against the Wizards as he did in his first five seasons in the league combined. I mean, that's crazy. And he shot a bunch of them. What was funny, one of the many funny things about that is there were about seven of them that just hit the backboard. Like he threw seven boulders at the rim when he got tired, when he lost his legs.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was all at the end. It was all at the end. Because did you know that he got to 70 points with about seven minutes left in the game and he was shooting over 50% from the field and over 40% from three. His stats were unbelievable. And then the bullshit started in.

[Roy]

In 2015, the Golden State warriors beat the Sacramento Kings and Clay had 37. He had nine for nine from three and 13 for 13 overall field goals. So another four buckets and he had two free throws.

[Mike Ryan]

Mike, you thinking there's going to be a hundred point game? Because Clay's going to do that in three quarters. He's going to go.

[Roy]

That was just 1/4, 37.

[Mike Ryan]

He's going to go 27 for 27 over 3/4 and get to 100.

[Jeremy]

Dude, if Bam can go for 83, a Steph Curry type can go for 100.

[Mike Ryan]

I do think that we sort of underestimate the amount of stamina that takes. I've heard him interviewed some, but I haven't heard anyone ask him if he's ever been that tired at the end of a game, because I can't imagine he's ever been that tired at the end of any game he's played.

[Jeremy]

His jersey was a different color than his shorts.

[Dan Le Batard]

I had someone say to me yesterday that his jersey was black at the end of the game. That's a red jersey.

[Mike Ryan]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast. Follow me up a logic ladder here. Would everyone here agree that in basketball, defense is equally important to offense? Yes, everyone here would agree with that. Even though we celebrate offense wildly, disproportionately, we would agree that defense is as important.

[Zas]

I speak for everyone.

[Mike Ryan]

You would also agree that we do a very poor job of talking about it, well, measuring it, well, offense is easier to see. Right. So Mike Ryan has understandably grown tired of Bam Adebayo as the lead thing for something that has been a play in team. But would you agree or is it blasphemy to say, based on what I just said, that Bam Adebayo to the Miami Heats defense has been what Dwyane Wade has been to their offense? Yes or no?

[Zas]

I disagree with that because Bam Adebayo to the Heat's defense has not given the same results as what Dwayne Wade's offense.

[Jeremy]

And I think the example that you just cited is why offense is more important than defense. Because Dwayne Wade and his offensive game has beaten tremendous defense in the playoffs in moments that you've absolutely needed it.

[Mike Ryan]

And Adebayo knocked out out the Celtics at the rim in the bubble with defense in the playoffs. The reason that I say this and the reason that I disagree with what Zaz just said, Bam's defense and this is why the Heat won't trade him. Bam's defense always makes them top five. I saw Wade be great at offense and them not be top five. They're always top five. And it's always because Bam Adebayo is at the center of their defense.

[Jeremy]

Have we ever remembered a play from a game one in a series the way that we remember Bams? Because like a lot of people think it's Mandela effect. A lot of people think that the series was one on that play. It was game one.

[Zas]

He don't. If he doesn't make that block, they probably don't win.

[Roy]

That series was the Island Iverson over Ty Lou Game one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Roy]

There you go.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a good example.

[Jeremy]

And actually that's a much better perfect example. Game one.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, because they lost. They. They. The Sixers won the first one in la. Everyone was shocked. And then the Lakers won the next four.

[Roy]

Like what happened there?

[Jeremy]

And it's one of the most iconic

[Mike Ryan]

moments in basketball in a five game on the wrong end of a sweep.

[Jeremy]

Was Matt Geiger on that team?

[Mike Ryan]

I think Eric Snow was the point guard on that team. Allen Iverson dragged a bunch of bums.

[Jeremy]

Did you see Eric Snow at the reunion?

[Zas]

Yeah, but that's not new.

[Jeremy]

No, I'm just.

[Mike Ryan]

What?

[Jeremy]

I can't talk. I'm catching up with my friends. Did you guys hear it Snow at that?

[Zas]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

All right. I'm not going to say what everyone's thinking. I saw Pat Croce. You guys see him? He looks good.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, you just said what you weren't going to say you by saying that Pat Croce looks good. You just said what you weren't going to say about Eric Snow. We, we didn't comment on Antoine walker at the 20 year reunion.

[Zas]

Why are we doing that?

[Mike Ryan]

This is something. Well, Dwyane Wade was talking about the lack of buzz in town and are you guys willing to follow me down the path of the Miami Heat who know more than we do are unwilling to trade Bam Adebayo because they think he is to their defense what Dwyane Wade is to their off what Dwyane Wade was to their offense. It's. Regardless of whether you want to split hairs on it or not, it's pretty close. Like he's, he's an all time defender. Bam Adebayo will, will be, will go down as an all time defender while never winning the defensive player of the year.

[Roy]

It's for sure. It's, it's kind of the same way as SPO is the best coach but never wins coach of the year. The thing is you can't measure defense. My bad. My, my voice is going right now with Dr. Last night WBC and we

[Jeremy]

were absolutely lit last night.

[Roy]

But you don't measure the game. It's points scored, not defense. Right. They can't be like, oh, Bam's got four defensive stops. Like, okay, that doesn't matter because if they come down and hit four threes, it doesn't really matter.

[Zas]

And I guess I would just kind of, you know, say what I said again, but in different words where I don't think that Bam can be the best player on your team and you win a championship. And I know Dwyane Wade could be the best player on your team win a championship.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, but you're doing the measurement of just winning is the only thing that matters. You're doing it the way we measure quarterbacks, but it's not the only thing that goes into winning. And on the front end, I just asked you, is defense as important as offense? Because before Bam Adebayo, those Heat teams, we celebrate Bosh Wade and LeBron, they won. Their defense was great. Like they, they made a bunch of mid range jumpers against the spurs because you know, Pop figured out how to get them to just made mid range jumpers. But they are every year a top five team with Bam at the center of the defense. It's the core principal philosophy of almost everything they do. I wonder if I can just say flatly the Heat value defense more than they do offense. They figure they can get offense from every Max Stru, every Gay Vincent, every Duncan Robinson, they'll figure out how to get offense. This year's Heat team is only as many games over.500 as it is because of its defensive rating. They are an average offense efficiency.

[Roy]

But the thing is, Dan, when you say all those guys, the Max Truces and game Vincent's and Duncan Robinson's, you have one guy at the center of that that can put the team on his back when the playoffs are. You don't have a Jimmy Butler anymore. You don't have the guy that's the stalwart to your offense. It can't be Tyler Hero. We know it can't be.

[Mike Ryan]

My point is that no matter who's on defense, whether it's Tyler Herro, Norman Powell or anybody, or Max Stru or anyone else, the reason they're good at defense is because Bam's always at the center of the defense, guarding all five of your guys.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Their defense this year in particular is fully because of Bam. Like they had so many guys out there at so many different moments who struggled. And while they have some really good individual defenders, Davion Mitchell is a good individual defender. Pelo Larson as well. Andrew Wiggins having one of the best seasons of his career on both sides of the ball at the same time. Bam's ability to guard one through five, to play in a zone, to play man to man, to guard a wing, to guard a big, that's what allows them to do all the different things they do to that do slow down other teams eventually. Which is why they decided to play with Pace this season, because they knew he could anchor it.

[Mike Ryan]

My point is they have more knowledge than we do, they have more invested than we do. They say Bam is untouchable. I'm explaining the reason to you that they say Bam is untouchable. We'll talk about the 83 points. It's not why they value him. It's because he always shows up. It's because of the rarest of things other players in the league say of Bam Adebayo. We know how hard that dude works. It's evident in what it is that he's created with his game. But Dwayne Wade, I heard him here, he had some pretty great sound. And Dwayne Wade seems legitimately angry. And if I say to the audience Dwyane Wade's 2010 through 2014, when they were fighting with America, do you think he misses fighting, writing with America about stuff? This is Dwyane Wade here, and these are fangs for Dwyane Wade. When he says what he says here.

[Dwyane Wade]

Also, let me say things, and let me do things that y' all can't do, right? Spoke can't walk in the locker room and do and say certain things that I can say, right? So let me say certain things, right? The organization can't do or say certain things that I can say. Let me say certain things because I'm a whole. I'm gonna hold the organization to a standard whether you like it or not, right? But here we go. I wasn't born in Missouri. I was born in Chicago, But I damn sure live about it. I'm damn show from the show me state. Show me seeing is believing. Just like I said to Bam on the show. Like, it's not that I don't believe in you. It's not that I don't believe in this organization. I've seen it. But show me. And you know what they doing? Oh, they showing me. So if I'm gonna send some. I'm about to send some emojis to Bam right now. It's gonna be this. I zip it. Zip it. As long as you gonna keep showing me, baby, show me that you are one of them dudes that we know you are. And that's what you doing right now. And that's what the heat is doing. So let's go. Let's go.

[Dan Le Batard]

Sounds like a victory lap to me. He's like, yeah, I told him to play harder. I told him to play better. And they're doing it.

[Zas]

I think he likes being able to do this where he could talk. Like, he said, spo can't go in there and say all this. I think he likes being able to say these things with no repercussions. Now, things that he probably couldn't say

[Mike Ryan]

when he was playing, he called them a play in team. He pissed them off. He pissed them off by saying there's no buzz around that city. They don't have somebody who was me or Jimmy or a star. And so he ended agitating them. Let's get to some more. Dwayne sound here, because there's a killer quote in here. Just a killer quote from him.

[Dwyane Wade]

Yeah, we got a couple. Yeah, we got a couple weeks left, right? And then we could get to the fifth place. And then you could possibly play Cleveland that first round, that four or five matchup. What's up? They got it. Yeah, I like Cleveland. I like James over there. But you know what? They only been playing together for a little while. Like, yeah, you can make noise. You can have a year that you know you could be proud of. It ain't just. It ain't just about winning championships. Like, ultimately, yes, we want to win championships, but you got to take steps to get there. You got to build these steps. Right? And so this is a building year, so let's build. And so the end of this year gonna show us what we gonna build into for the next season and what the team gonna be able to do in this off season about what we do and how we finish this year. And so I'm. I'm gonna say we until the day I ain't here no more because I. Blood, sweat and tears, Dog was left in that. In that state. Yep.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Dwyane Wade]

And also too. Don't give me a county. Don't name it after me if y' all don't like that. I'm gonna always hold us to a standard, baby. His way in. County. It's because it's a standard that's there.

[Mike Ryan]

That is a killer dismount. Do not name a county after me if you don't want to abide by my standard.

[Roy]

You could tell that he started cooking. Then he's like, oh, wait a second. I got one more. Hold on a second. How about this one?

[Dan Le Batard]

Don't forget the county line.

[Zas]

County. How do you think Jazz fans experience that? Do they care? Like, this guy is supposed to be part of our.

[Roy]

Who cares about the.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, there's never been anything like that, has there a guy who owns a part of another team and is still representing this one down here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Tom Brady.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Zas]

I guess he wouldn't even say roots for the Patriots.

[Mike Ryan]

The Super Bowl. The super. He would. He no commented whether he was rooting for the. It's not quite this where he's going after the individual players. He did piss off. He did piss off. Bam. Adebayo. But one of the things that is always funny about media members and fans and how they react to conflict in a locker room, those guys thrive off of conflict. It was Ray Allen who actually taught me. He's like, nobody in here is in their feelings on anything. Like, they pissed off is fuel. Pissed off is something that, you know, Dwayne Wade learned in an organization where Shaq and Mourning would go face to face with Riley. And it seemed everyone there like they were gonna fight. And then, you know, Shaq and Morning would get kicked out of practice because they thrive on conflict. They create it. It's very different from most other workplaces. And I have seen before we get to the more positive sound from around the league because there is some of that I have seen Zas and Jeremy getting off about the conflict that there presently is around the Bam conversation.

[Zas]

Yeah, I mean, it's, it's why. And I said this yesterday. I really wish they pulled him at 81 because I think the reaction would have been so, so different. And I'm, I'm annoyed and I'm afraid offended at some of the reaction, which Bam does not deserve. He did nothing wrong and I just wish Bam was getting the respect and the adulation over these last 36 hours that I think he deserves. And it's played out exactly the way I figured it would play out. And, and some of the things that I've heard people say out there, it's offensive to me as a Heat fan.

[Jeremy]

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[Mike Ryan]

Don LeBatard all these high paid analysts. I don't want to mention names. Tnt, espn, you know. Oh yeah, they. They are dead. They cannot. They're not going to make it. You know, even if they win in. If they lose in Miami. To calm you down, I need to. That's right. If they lose in Miami, they don't get a chance in Boston or they are going to have their ass. You know what? In Boston, you know, st. They were wrong. Are they going to lose their job? No. Are they going to get a cutting page? No. What are they going to do?

[Zas]

Keep predicting.

[Mike Ryan]

What is the obvious. They are going to say, oh, the Nuggets are going to win. Oh, Denver, the altitude and you know what? The Heat are going to win at all. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think there have been some voices that have been weak on this, like Lakers fans in particular who are trying to discredit what.

[Zas]

You expect that though, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

But you know what I was taught is that Mamba mentality is continuing to go for records for continuing to score that if you're getting triple team.

[Dwyane Wade]

Wait a second.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why would you undermine that? I was going somewhere that was going to be a good clip social and you ruined.

[Mike Ryan]

He can't culturally appropriate the black mom.

[Dan Le Batard]

I didn't say black.

[Mike Ryan]

You said black. He can't do it. It's because your every word says white.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, well, you know, look at me. But the Mamba mentality would be continuing to go out there. You think, you think that Kobe Bryant would have taken himself out to honor some other legend rather than setting a record.

[Mike Ryan]

Mike and Tony both reacted the same way. I saw it sweep over the room. Okay. And it was like watching one of these Tsunami movies. What I saw sweep the room. They both absorbed what you were saying. I learned from Mamba. The Mamba taught him what I have learned from Mamba. They both react by just laughing at the general tone of you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Someone cut that up. Because I don't think I said what I've learned from Mamba. I said, what I've learned about the Mamba mentality. And I. When I said that in here before, when I rehearsed the line, I looked at Tony and I said it, and he was like, oh, that's a bar.

[Mike Ryan]

Whatever you said you rehearsed the line sounded so white.

[Dan Le Batard]

I pitched it out there.

[Mike Ryan]

You rehearsed.

[Roy]

Minor penalty.

[Mike Ryan]

Only two minutes for explaining the show. Wow. You rehearsed that line like Wade County.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like I said it, I went, hey, you know what? I don't think that's mama mentality. And Tony was like, that's pretty good.

[Zas]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not going to stop saying mama mentality. I had an opportunity here yesterday. Took me out of context.

[Mike Ryan]

You rehearsed that. That was. Rehearsed a line that halfway through it, you got through it and you were serious rehearsing your movie poster line. And Tony and Mike were trying stifle laughter.

[Roy]

Dan, he threw it up to me, and I was like, oh, that's good. But the problem is, if you don't say it, if I say it, it's good. If you say it, not good. So I thought I was going to say. But then he said it, and I

[Mike Ryan]

was like, okay, you. But you could have gotten away.

[Dan Le Batard]

I, of course, could get away. Yeah.

[Roy]

Because that's my. That's my culture. He can't appropriate my culture.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, now. Now Mike is looking at you the same way that he was looking at Jerry.

[Roy]

Of course he would, because he's not a Hooper. He's not part of our culture. It's a different story.

[Mike Ryan]

I have some sound here from around the league, but let's start with what it is Brian Windhorst is saying. As I talk to people around the

[Roy]

league today, I found great response from Bam Adebayo's peers. He's very popular amongst his peers, so there's that.

[Mike Ryan]

And then the peers who are talking matter, okay, because here's Kevin Durant. I couldn't believe it when I was hearing it in real time. You got 30 in the first quarter. 70. Congratulations to Bam on how much work he puts in. I looked at the statue. It's pretty crazy. 40 shots, 40 free throws, 23 statues. That takes a lot of stamina, man. It takes a lot of energy to go out there and put those shots up and also make them set A record surpass Kobe as the second highest scoring player in the history of the game. I mean, damn, congrats to him. That's as nice as you'll ever hear. Kevin Durant talking to the media right there. Just happy about somebody doing something good. Just. He's just sitting here saying, that's positive. When he talks about the stamina. I'm going to say this part again. I don't know if you guys ever saw Ochocinko talking about playing against Real Madrid, practice against them when he was at the height of his Bengals powers. Fit, really fit. He's like, I couldn't touch the ball, couldn't get close to the ball. And we were talking yesterday. I think our show would have a hard time getting over half court against the Wizards if they were trying to keep us from getting over half court because Alex Saar is an extraterrestrial. Like, he's just super wide and we wouldn't be able to get to the ball. And what Bam did yesterday with the triple teams impressed people who are used to triple teams like Giannis. Everything incredible, incredible. Speaks volumes in his hard work.

[Roy]

I haven't seen the game.

[Mike Ryan]

I have to watch the game and

[Dan Le Batard]

see 36 of 43 from the line free throws.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, it doesn't matter how you get it. All the man's like, you got it. Like, in 10, 20, 30 years from

[Roy]

now, nobody's gonna remember how many free throw he shot. I don't think I remember how many

[Mike Ryan]

shots Kobe shot or how many free throws he made, or threes.

[Roy]

All you remember is 81, wield 100. You don't remember that.

[Mike Ryan]

You know, so at the end of the day, he got 83 points.

[Zas]

And I mean, I think logic's a little faulty there. You know, even though he's trying to do something, say something positive there about

[Dan Le Batard]

Bam, that reporter, just trying to get him to say something bad.

[Roy]

What was him.

[Zas]

Before you say something good, let me

[Mike Ryan]

tell you about the free throws. I hear in both Giannis and Kevin Durant, them experiencing haters a certain way and being clear on. I'm not going to sound like a hater of this by finding all of the ways to criticize this. You can hear the smiles on both of their face. Even though those muscles have atrophied on Kevin Durant's, they don't work. He has to bring in trainers and stuff to stretch him with bands to get the smile to work. But here, also not exactly a peer, but former player, here's Lou Williams, who knew how to score Talking about it.

[Lou Williams]

Super impressive. I, I got, I got no complaints. I got no criticisms. Listen, when you subscribe to doing silly things, you play silly games, you win silly prizes. You know, Washington, they, they subscribe to trying to stop him from getting it look like the 81 points. So just trying to stop him from continuing to score the way that he was scoring. You know, we can make a case about the 36 free throws. Those were legitimate fouls. They couldn't stop them. They were fouling them. Then he shot the free throws for it. I didn't see a lot of flopping. If anything, A lot of those are supposed to be and ones, if you ask my opinions, a lot of those fouls that he were getting, they were supposed to be finished because he was fouled in the act of shooting. A lot of those fouls. If you look at it the first half when he had 43 and 19 minutes, a lot of that was just bully ball. Him putting his head down, either dunking on somebody, laying the basketball up or complete and ones. And when they couldn't stop him from getting to the rim, he made three pointers. Now, was it his most efficient night once he realized he was scratching the surface of history? Of course not. Once you get that close to the fire, I'm going for it.

[Mike Ryan]

Toronto never doubled Kobe, right?

[Zas]

No.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know about never, but I've seen photos on the Internet of him just being in isolation with one guy. They historically, like that's the whole thing about the game. Game.

[Zas]

It was one of the main criticisms of Sam Mitchell.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's why Sam Mitchell was toasting champagne yesterday, because his strategy is what got them roasted. I'm not going to double Kobe no matter what.

[Zas]

And isn't it why everyone points at Jalen Rose? You were the defender.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're the guy that got torched.

[Zas]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

And instead it was the entire Wizards team.

[Zas]

Yeah. I actually think, you know as far as the free throws because of the way that Washington was guarding him. Double and triple teaming full court. That's not how you defend. Like you're going to draw fouls when you have three guys who are just crowding you.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's also like I, like I told you guys during the shadow show, like he was shooting over 50% from the field and over 40% from three deep into the fourth quarter having already scored 70 points. And then they started triple teaming him, which means that 30 of those free throws came because they simply couldn't guard him. Like that's part of all of this. They're a Terrible defense. They could not guard Bam out of bio and he was asserting his will on a night where they didn't have anybody else to do it. Their next highest scorer was Simone Fontechio.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Nowhere. No Powell, no Wiggins, no hero. But one of the things that I found interesting about this, and when I mentioned the Real Madrid Ochocinko example of Ochocinco, was in his prime as a number one receiver in the NFL. He goes out to play with Real Madrid and he's underestimated. He couldn't get to touching the ball because of how good they were with the ball. Tony, you know, as a basketball lover that the athleticism and the aggressiveness of Bam Adebayo, when he spins with that body type, you almost can't do anything but foul him. It's what, it's why Amin is always yelling, please be more aggressive than four and a half free throws a game. There's no one who can stop you. No one in the history of athletic bodies who can stop you. If you just go neck first at the rim that way, because they're going to have to hit you. You're too athletic.

[Roy]

But Dan, that's the part that's tough because going playing that style, it, it, it hurts, right? Shooting 43 free throws hurts. And obviously he's not going to shoot that every night, but if you shoot 16, 17, 18 free throws a night like SGA would, your body's going to break down. Playing defense the way he does, banging down low, the way he does with bigs, like it's, it's not an easy way to play. But when he has that head of steam and you saw it when he would break through the triple team and then have the ball basically one on one at the top of the key, it was a spin move here. It was just taking strong up this way like they couldn't stop him. And it feels like if any other team he would do that again, he would have the same results. It's just a matter of like lighting that fire and playing that way.

[Zas]

It'll be a little bit interesting what he looks like tonight. Right?

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, I imagine he is going to be hurting. His body is physically going to hurt.

[Roy]

He's got to look dead. Right?

[Mike Ryan]

I've asked the Heat to see if they we can get him. I don't think they do anything on game day, but I have asked the Heat to see if we can get Bam today because I've just got a bunch of questions about how he physically feels because I don't think People understand the amount that that takes to do all of that. But let's just show this video here of Sam Mitchell toasting champagne. They got champagne. That's good work by the staff that both have champagne and the glasses to celebrate the fact that he never double teamed Kobe and allowed him to get to 81 points as part of the show.

[Roy]

Back in the day where it was like, hey Tony, go find us this because we don't have this at the studio. One time I had to go get Fruit Loops because Stu Gotts could say that he could tell the difference between all the different ones.

[Dan Le Batard]

I had to go to like 6 CVS's to go find fruit loop.

[Roy]

So some poor PA somewhere was like, get champagne.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's going downstairs like apple juice.

[Mike Ryan]

That's tough to do though, right? Because you, you couldn't have seen. None of us saw him getting past Kobe. Well, no, obviously, but even after that, this was a number that I saw on the sportsbooks at the half. The over under on BAM for the game was 55 and a half at the at the half. So him getting to to 81 is nothing that the Heat had even considered. Like they weren't considering that until Washington started with the bullshit.

[Roy]

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[Jeremy]

throws most made and attempted in NBA history.

[Mike Ryan]

You know what it's people love to be outraged.

[Zas]

That's.

[Mike Ryan]

That's just what it is today. And I can understand on one side that it was, it was made a mockery down the stretch in the way

[Jeremy]

they went about doing it.

[Roy]

It's, it's not the normal thing that

[Jeremy]

you see in an NBA game, but

[Mike Ryan]

at the other, as George goes inside, Mrs. Bridges reback. Good thing without a this is, this is a guy who represents the very Best of the NBA. The way he carries himself, the kind

[Jeremy]

of teammate he is, the work ethic that he has.

[Mike Ryan]

He's been nothing but a great ambassador to the NBA and a high character individual, and his story is amazing. So for him to have a special night like that for the Miami Heat and their fans to have, I thought that was wonderful, too.

[Dan Le Batard]

I.

[Mike Ryan]

Both sides have their correct points, and that's not what's kind of love misses. I'm not trying to cop out by saying. Saying they're both right, but sometimes there's a gray area in there.

[Jeremy]

Not everything is definitive, and we don't

[Mike Ryan]

have to be outraged about everything. Szaz, what do you make of this league? Wide outpouring is super unusual for. What a great guy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Zas]

Yeah. You know, one of the things that I look at actually during games with the Heat, whenever there's a scuffle and you got the players who will come in and they start to separate guys, or Bam's always in the middle of it because, you know, he plays down low by the basketball and. And he's a bigger guy, so he's going to be like a peacemaker. I always look to see if someone on the other team is trying Bam. I always look to see if someone shoves him out of the way. If someone starts talking shit to him during this little scuffle. I always look for that specifically because there is this reputation that everyone loves him and yeah, I never see anyone trying Bam during games.

[Mike Ryan]

I think it's unusual to hear a whole bunch of other players saying, we know how hard he works like that. That's just. And it's a reflection of what they've seen in how his game has changed.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's because they also, like half these guys played AAU ball with them, right? Donovan Mitchell and Dearon Fox and all of these guys that he grew up with that were in that same draft class, they all saw him just as a guy who was setting screens for them, being a lob threat for them, grabbing rebounds for them, and for him to now be the guy of all of them that goes and scores 83 points in a game. And they know how difficult it is to even get to the that many times. If you're just saying, like, oh, he was 7 for 22 from 3. Oh, there were this many free throws. You didn't watch the game and see the flow of the game. To see the fact that he earned his way easily to 70. Then from there, you can argue the semantics of it.

[Mike Ryan]

Roy, Tony, Mike, can I get an Official ruling on this sound.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know what I was taught is that Mamba mentality is continuing to go

[Roy]

to. Continue to go where, Jeremy?

[Dan Le Batard]

Somewhere. If Dan didn't cut me off, I didn't like it.

[Roy]

He needed more confianza is what it was.

[Mike Ryan]

You thought he was leaking?

[Roy]

It was Chris A little bit.

[Dwyane Wade]

Yeah.

[Roy]

Like it. Right, Right after like Chris, play it one more time. I want to hear where you think he leaks confidence.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know what I was taught is that Mamba mentality is continuing to go.

[Jeremy]

It's just you at Mamba mentality. That's for me. And also after all that you said, that could have been a social clip.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, that would have gone viral. It's your guys fault. We've had no clips about any of this that have done anything. We're playing clips from other people. We're playing clips from other people instead of our show.

[Jeremy]

You should have heard of rump about Brian Windhorse.

[Dan Le Batard]

And we had our chance. We had our opportunity.

[Mike Ryan]

Minor penalty. Two minutes for explaining the show.

[Jeremy]

Two minutes of rumphing.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, you coming in here and saying we've had no clips do anything. That is something that I don't want anyone here motivated by like I don't know what you're doing.

[Zas]

Gotta go viral. Dan, we had the clip.

[Mike Ryan]

He thought he was gonna cook it. He throws away. Just to be clear. I want to be clear on what?

[Dan Le Batard]

Not our job.

[Mike Ryan]

No, you're. No, you're. When have I ever said to you, Jeremy, that your job is you got to go viral because you're failing at your job? If that's what your job is like you have been an abject failure at it. You went viral eating cheetos like you had your fingers in your mouth. You had cheese dust on your fingers. That's how you went viral. You think that was you doing your job?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, the guy who makes us wear costumes so that when I say something racist.

[Mike Ryan]

Whoa.

[Jeremy]

At least he admitted.

[Dan Le Batard]

Allegedly.

[Roy]

What did he say?

[Jeremy]

I mean, he is displaying Mamba.

[Mike Ryan]

Roy, can I get your opinion? You have sat out peacefully and gracefully. You have sat out the Mamba Mendel at the moment mentality clip. To be fair, I did think he had said it differently. I had him at a tiny chair with a small desk with gum stuck underneath the desk, sitting in a class where Mamba was teaching mentality on the board like it was. He was being taught of shoot, never assist, punch your teammates in the face, be an asshole, win the championship, go 6 for 24 and have run our test, Bill you out in A game seven against the Celtics.

[Roy]

Oh, five championships, Dan.

[Mike Ryan]

The fifth one was the one he liked the most. And Metta World Peace won it for him and then thanked his psychiatrist.

[Roy]

He ran through an MF for chest. And Paul Gasol in the Olympics has. I. I know you remember that one.

[Zas]

Yeah.

[Roy]

Oh, you're a hater too.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay. I thought.

[Dwyane Wade]

There's no way.

[Mike Ryan]

My penalty, two minutes.

[Zas]

Nothing.

[Roy]

I agree.

[Mike Ryan]

He's got to go.

[Dwyane Wade]

Yeah, he's got to go.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, yes. What you gave him. You said yes. And you made it literal. You. You made. You made. You made. Yes. And his improv. Literal. By just giving him. Yeah, literally threw up an al form

[Roy]

disaz to come in and be like,

[Mike Ryan]

oh, I remember that. Blah, blah, blah.

[Roy]

My voice.

[Dwyane Wade]

Damn.

[Mike Ryan]

You know what? I'm sorry.

[Roy]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Minor penalty. Two minutes for leaking confidence.

[Roy]

You too, right? You got to go.

[Jeremy]

It's like the Tampa Bay Lightning.

[Mike Ryan]

Just you, you've got to get out of here. And only you. The University of Miami plays at 2:30 today. Louisville. Louisville. Louisville. Louisville beat them last time. That was a disappointing night. They panicked at the end. They threw the ball out of bounds. I thought the Miami Hurricanes were going to win that game and have more wins than they ever had in a. On Sunday. You guys are going to want to be with us. I assume the University of Miami will be about a three seed, but maybe this tournament will change that seeding because they lost at home against Louisville and I don't know if another loss against Louisville, which has nine or 10 losses this season. I like Louisville. I think they're a good team.

[Jeremy]

And Miami's projected in most places to not be that high. Like I've seen six, seven.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay. I just. I figured if they won the ACC tournament.

[Jeremy]

Oh, if they win it. Yeah, that'd be a boost. It be could because presumably, although Duke. Sneaky, Sneaky, tough game. FSU's playing better. Not an embarrassing loss for Miami anymore, but yeah, if they go through Duke, it would certainly boost their credentials.

[Mike Ryan]

Even if they got to the game against Duke, I would assume that they would end up being a very high seed.

[Jeremy]

And Mikel Brown is not playing for Louisville. He's out until he hopes to make a return in the NCAA tournament. Louisville is indeed a tournament team, but

[Mike Ryan]

they already beat Miami without.

[Jeremy]

They did, but they also shot like 60% from 3. The shot making in that game was incredible. It was impressive in defeat that Miami was able to climb back into the game. And then that entire second half was a bit of a war. Miami is a one and a half point dog. Today we'll see.230 tip.

[Mike Ryan]

I've had a couple of stumbles today in which the glitch system has short circuited me. The mamba mendality.

[Jeremy]

Not so bad.

[Mike Ryan]

The mamba mendality. Well, a mendality is totally different.

[Dan Le Batard]

Manatees.

[Jeremy]

You said manatees.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know what would be a mendality. What would that. Mamba mendality. That's a totally different thing. That has nothing to do with Kobe Bryant. What is a mendality? Mamba mendality.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nelson Mandela. Your voice knows you're making a mistake.

[Mike Ryan]

There it it is. That is. You know what? You got me exactly right there.

[Roy]

That's it.

[Mike Ryan]

Minor penalty. 2 minutes for leaking conf. The mamba mendel.

[Zas]

Let's be honest here, though. After the game the other night, I can't be the only one who thought this. After the game the other night, and Bam is doing the post game, you know, spotlight on the floor with Kelly Sacco. And, you know, then the whole team came up and they sprayed him with water. And it was a really fun moment. I mean, how badly did Jeremy wish that was his?

[Roy]

Oh, man. I was sitting on the couch watching with my wife, and I was like, jared, there's no way Jeremy's on this broadcast.

[Dan Le Batard]

I feel like we would have seen that via Ted text earlier in the game if that was. I have never been so jealous of anyone in my life. Texting Kelly. I texted Kelly with about three minutes to go, and I was like, you are going to crush this. But I also was, Kelly has a hundred more Marlins games than I do, and I am more jealous of the fact that she did that than the fact that she has a hundred. So you guys are different teammates than we are around here because if I, if that was you, I would have been texting you. You're going to screw this. Don't choke. Yeah, don't choke. Don't stumble over your words. Did you consider the biggest interview of your entire life right here? Oh, you guys all would have been roasting me.

[Zas]

Did you consider at any point during the game, like, once Bam got to 70, did you consider getting in the car and driving to the arena? It's like, listen, you know, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to throw

[Dan Le Batard]

on the suit, drive down there. Kelly, look, I appreciate it. I'm here, but I'm about to have the greatest interview of all time, right? The Kanye mentality.

[Zas]

Like, do you and Kelly have the same amount of games?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, we have the same amount of games. I did not get assigned to that one.

[Zas]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, super disappointing. Also wasn't in the building because it was my grandfather's 86th birthday.

[Zas]

Yeah, but I mean, grandfather's 86. Bam. 83.

[Dan Le Batard]

Would have been cool if he scored three more points.

[Roy]

To be fair. It would have been a Jeremy game against the Wizards where Bam has like 15 and 8.

[Dan Le Batard]

Felt like a Jeremy.

[Zas]

Yeah.

[Roy]

We're just like, okay, cool.

[Dan Le Batard]

For sure. If I was there, he doesn't score 83. Like, what if I was doing that game? For sure. I have tonight's game. I'll be on tonight's game between the

[Zas]

he's gonna be lousy.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's Gonna shoot like 6 for 22 and have 14 points and 12 rebounds. It'll be a win because he's a Giannis stopper, but Giannis might also have like 90.

[Zas]

I can't be the only one who thought about that. That's what was on my mind at the end of the game.

[Jeremy]

Shot clocks, big shots, upsets, aces. TGL playoffs are here. First, Atlanta Drive starts their repeat run against Los Angeles Golf Club. Then Rory's Boston Common golf and Tigers Jupiter Links face off in their playoff debut. Who will advance? Keep up its playoffs. Tune in Tuesday, March 17, at 6:30pm and 9pm only on ESPN. And the ESPN applied.