Local Hour: Mark's Wife Emmy

Summary

Episode Summary: Local Hour - "Mark's Wife Emmy"

Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
Episode Title: Local Hour: Mark's Wife Emmy
Release Date: March 20, 2025

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1. Introduction to the Episode

The episode kicks off with the hosts setting the stage for an engaging Local Hour segment, delving into South Florida's vibrant sports and cultural scene. While brief promotional segments are present, the primary focus quickly shifts to the main discussions among Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and their co-hosts.

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2. Controversy Over Greg Cody's Iconic Column

A significant portion of the episode centers around the unexpected removal of Greg Cody's beloved column, which famously suggested trading Dan Marino.

• Dan Le Batard ([01:24]):
  "Shadowing it. I know you guys like to pretend around here that I'm in charge, but a lot of things happen around here that have nothing to do with me ever knowing about it."

The removal sparks a heated debate about accountability and the sentimental value of the column.

• Chris Cody ([02:43]):
  "It's the greatest column that he's ever written because everybody knows about it. Everybody knows that he tried to trade Dan Marino."

Stugotz expresses his concern over the decision, emphasizing the cultural and emotional impact of the column within the community.

• Stugotz ([03:19]):
  "This is definitely the article being removed from somewhere over the last 24 hours that I'm most concerned about."

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3. Miami Heat's Struggling Season and Jimmy Butler's Future

The discussion shifts to the Miami Heat's ongoing performance woes, highlighting an unprecedented nine-game losing streak and the looming question of Jimmy Butler's role with the team.

• Dan Le Batard ([05:21]):
  "I have found this season to be one of the least enjoyable of my lifetime."

Co-hosts analyze the team's lack of a clear path forward without Butler, debating whether his departure is solely to blame or indicative of deeper organizational issues.

• Chris Cody ([07:53]):
  "The part that I have a hard time understanding... they've essentially been playing without Jimmy Butler the entire season. So there is something rotten surrounding this team right now."

The conversation delves into fan frustrations, the potential impact of Butler's return, and the team's overall strategy moving forward.

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4. Fan Tournament: "Mark's Wife Emmy" vs. Logan

In a lighthearted segment, the hosts introduce a fan tournament where listeners submit videos for a chance to watch the NCAA Men's National Basketball Championship game with Dan.

• Greg Cody ([37:32]):
  "That's a 16 seed. So that's going up against Flanagan's guy. We move on now to our two verse 15. We have Mark's wife, Mark, wife's Emmy."

The playful banter continues as fans present their entries, with humorous entries like Mark's offer to give away his wife, Emmy, sparking laughter and camaraderie among the hosts.

• Dan Le Batard ([37:47]):
  "If selected, I will give Stugots this 1980s starting lineup Mark Gastonau figure... and you guys could have my wife's Emmy."

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5. Debate: Are Penguins Birds or Fish?

Towards the episode's conclusion, the conversation takes a whimsical turn as the hosts debate whether penguins are more akin to birds or fish.

• Dan Le Batard ([42:18]):
  "I don't think it's a thing. I think I'm the only one who does it."

The debate showcases the hosts' light-hearted chemistry, blending humor with playful arguments about penguin biology.

• Jeremy Tashay ([43:18]):
  "They have feathers. They go into the water more than other birds."

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6. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the show's ongoing dynamics, fan interactions, and tease upcoming content. The blend of serious sports analysis with humorous interludes ensures a well-rounded and entertaining listening experience for both regular and new listeners.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Dan Le Batard ([05:21]):
  "I have found this season to be one of the least enjoyable of my lifetime."

• Stugotz ([03:19]):
  "This is definitely the article being removed from somewhere over the last 24 hours that I'm most concerned about."

• Chris Cody ([07:53]):
  "So there is something rotten surrounding this team right now."

• Greg Cody ([37:32]):
  "That's a 16 seed. So that's going up against Flanagan's guy."

• Dan Le Batard ([42:18]):
  "I don't think it's a thing. I think I'm the only one who does it."

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This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz masterfully balances in-depth sports analysis with engaging and comedic segments, making it a must-listen for fans eager to stay updated on South Florida's sports landscape and beyond.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Cuervo. Shadow Show.

[Stugotz]

Shadow Show.

[Dan LeBatard]

Shadow Show.

[Stugotz]

Shadow Show.

[Dan LeBatard]

Shadow Show.

[Chris Cody]

Shadow Show.

[Dan LeBatard]

Shadow Show. Shadowing it. Shadowing it. I know you guys like to pretend around here that I'm in charge, but a lot of things happen around here that have nothing to do with me ever knowing about it. And I saw as Jonathan Zaslow, Greg Cody's nemesis, comes into the studio looking very much like radio. I saw that out of the shipping container, the framed Greg Cody trade merino column was taken out of the shipping container and placed. Now, this is. You have to understand, this is an heirloom. This is a treasure. This should be something that would be at the center of a church if the church worshiped bad takes. And I'd like to know who made the decision to take something that is a family heirloom and remove it from our walls in here and put it outside. Is anyone accountable on this?

[Mike Ryan]

I was surprised to see it too. So there was some redecorating. And generally, I must say I'm a fan of what they did. But I also noticed that the Greg Cody column is missing. Thankfully, if you're just listening to the Shadow show, you don't have to experience this trauma visually for the moment. But it's coming.

[Greg Cody]

I know who did it. I don't feel comfortable saying because they do a lot of good things around here and we don't need to shame them. But yes, I know who did it.

[Dan LeBatard]

And how does the decision get made on this? How did you feel about that column? And you've made fun of Greg Cody a couple of different times to his face.

[Chris Cody]

I don't think I've made fun of him about it. It's. The column is what it is. Like, there's nothing to make fun of. It's. It's. I think it's the greatest column that he's ever written because everybody knows about it. Everybody knows that he tried to trade Marino. It was. There's no column that stood out more to me as a kid than Greg Cody is saying we should trade Dan Marino. So, I mean, I think it's. Maybe it took it out of there because everybody knows it by heart at this point. Like, you don't need it up there.

[Stugotz]

This is definitely the article being removed from somewhere over the last 24 hours that I'm most concerned about.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, Jeremy, we've got something for you today because I can't believe what I saw last night. Why?

[Stugotz]

What happened?

[Dan LeBatard]

I will get to it in a second. You. You at the center of things in a. In a way that's amusing.

[Stugotz]

Because I'm a star.

[Dan LeBatard]

Because your team stinks.

[Chris Cody]

You notice things have gone downhill since I'm not there anymore, right?

[Jeremy Tashay]

Oh, yeah, that's true.

[Dan LeBatard]

Zazlo. I thought Zazlow not there anymore.

[Chris Cody]

Two time champion, you know, haven't done any winning since I left.

[Dan LeBatard]

Not there anymore covers a lot of ground because Zaslow was a pre and post game fixture on the Miami Heat. Then he left and then they stopped.

[Chris Cody]

I was kicked out.

[Greg Cody]

Now it's Solana. Yeah, not going well for Solana so far.

[Mike Ryan]

Tommy Tighe's still out there doing it.

[Chris Cody]

He's a lifer.

[Mike Ryan]

His hair is so dark.

[Chris Cody]

Lifer.

[Dan LeBatard]

You got kicked out?

[Chris Cody]

I mean, I get kicked out by Heat, like, as far as I know. They. They love me or they did love me. I don't know. One or the other.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, they tend to keep the people they love. That is true.

[Mike Ryan]

But not Len.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach podcast. Since we have Zaslow here as part of getting us ready for how it is, we're going to cover the NHL playoffs when the Panthers start kicking ass there. What? What happened, Tony?

[Jeremy Tashay]

NHL playoffs? We had an incredible game last night at the Kaseya Center. Another, you know, feather in my cap for the Cade Cunningham bandwagon. It's an incredible night.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't believe that you get feathers in your cap for anything. Cade Cunningham does a bandwagon.

[Jeremy Tashay]

How's that?

[Dan LeBatard]

Can you guys give me the history, please of feather feathers in caps and why it is that people get feathers in caps. But last night, the Miami Heat lose for the ninth straight time. They are in a particular hellhole that I don't think we've seen around here in 15 years. Unless my memory. Well, your. Your history is as low is good. Is this the worst Heat team we've seen in 15 years?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Yeah. I know a lot of people want to go back to the 2008 team where they only won like 15 games. But here's the thing. Your experience in that season, knowing or at least believing there's a light at the end of the tunnel. That light being the number one overall pick. We have the worst record in the NBA. It ended up being the number two overall pick. We know how that went. Michael Beasley. The most wrong I've ever been in my sports life. Michael Beasley but this team, there's. There's no light at the end of the tunnel because they're not even going to miss the playing now. They may miss the playoffs, but they're still going to be a playing team even if they lose the rest of the games this season. And there's no light at the end of the tunnel as far as the lottery goes. So I have found this season to be one of the least enjoyable of my lifetime.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's examine for a second around the room most wrong you've been in your sports life. I want all of you to examine this for a second and come up with an answer for me as I play the video from last night where Cade Cunningham, who's becoming a star this season because the Pistons do matter. The Pistons are fun. And beyond that, the way that offense is working in this sport is crazy to me. A spur that I've not heard of. Perhaps you guys can help me with how pronounce name scored 34 points in less than 20 minutes last night. Seven for seven on threes, 13 for 14. And even he after the game was wandering around the locker room saying, I don't know what bleeping happened out there because he scored so much so fast. And last night you may not have noticed this, the Pacers scored to win 135, 13145 points in the fourth quarter. That used to be the average Miami Heat half and is again. I think I feel like it is.

[Chris Cody]

The average second half.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's the average second half. Now before we get to the game winner, though, that I want to play. I just want to ask Zaz, because I do find this part to be a bit staggering. In the last 16 games, we talked an awful lot about Jimmy Butler. We argued a lot about Jimmy Butler. But how many more examples would you like that he didn't have enough help while he was here? Because it's been flooring to me to watch Bam and Tyler Herro do this, be this, because those are two all stars that you have. Maybe in name only, but they are all Stars. And the way this team is playing is a far sight from. You have two all Stars. I can't believe how bad they are. And I'm surprised that taking Jimmy Butler away 16 games proves this.

[Chris Cody]

Well, the part that I have a hard time understanding, not that I disagree with anything you just said. Okay. This team is rotten, by the way. Like, there is something rotten about this team. But Jimmy Butler, it's not like he was playing for them. And then they traded him and then everything went downhill. He was suspended. They lost him for. He served at least nine game suspension. If I'm remembering correctly. They were not this. They were a game over 500. They were 500. They were two over five. Like, they weren't this. And they've essentially been playing without Jimmy Butler the entire season. So there is something rotten surrounding this team right now because you're right. They're not this bad, Zaz.

[Jeremy Tashay]

The other thing is Tyler and Bam both had a good game last night. Like, Bam's kind of been, like, turning a little.

[Chris Cody]

He did Nothing in the fourth quarter. 50 points in the fourth quarter.

[Jeremy Tashay]

Agreed. But again, he still had 30.

[Chris Cody]

Right.

[Jeremy Tashay]

So it's like we don't. We don't see that from Bam. Typically. We see. We see him with the 16, 11 and 7 game where you're like, he left so much on the table. But last night, again, they just completely collapsed in the fourth quarter.

[Chris Cody]

They don't have a guy. Like, we watched the Pistons and Cade Cunningham is able to go out there, he's a dude, and do what he wants. We used to have a guy. They don't have a guy anymore who could do that. And Tyler here is just not big enough to do that, especially in the fourth quarter when everything tightens up.

[Jeremy Tashay]

But again, the Kate Cunningham shot, you get at the top of the key. He runs over Bam, covering him on the inbounds, by the way, he shoves bamboo with a. With a chicken wing. Okay.

[Stugotz]

Pushes.

[Jeremy Tashay]

I don't know. Oh, Heywood Highsmith out Of the way, gets the ball, gets to the top of key, gets his shot off. Bank shot. He didn't call it again, but still.

[Chris Cody]

He says he whispered it.

[Jeremy Tashay]

Says he whispered.

[Greg Cody]

Hold on a second. I just saw something here. Can we watch this again, this replay? I see someone in the background here looking dejected. Hold on, hit this again.

[Dan LeBatard]

So this is a bank. This is great defense by Bam. And there is Jeremy Cachet, his shoulders.

[Greg Cody]

He looks in.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, what's going to happen?

[Dan LeBatard]

Rejected. Let's. Let's put that picture in. Picture here and spot shadow Jeremy Tashay so that you can see what is this is. I'm going to do this for the audio audience. Okay, so he's got his microphone at the center of his chest, the way Shane Gillis does stand up. Okay, he's got the microphone at the center.

[Stugotz]

Perfect description, honestly. That's exactly right.

[Dan LeBatard]

And then as soon as the shot goes in, if you're just watching Jeremy, you are seeing the microphone, his only useful tool other than the ones that are inside him, of course. And the microphone just drops with a sudden disgust. And it goes to where the hand was when he fist pumped after doing his sideline interview. He is crushed there because that's your best defender he's defending. Well, it's still crazy. Okay, it's still crazy to me that Bam is the one that you send out there at that size and that Cunningham's not getting a good shot. He's getting a lucky shot. He made it. But that, that is good defense and that's just unfortunate that the Miami Heat lose there.

[Chris Cody]

Was there any part of you, Jeremy, that almost. Because me, if I was in your spot, and especially a younger version of me, you're a little bit younger than me. Especially a younger version me. I know people can't tell because we look like we're the same age, but you are younger than me. A younger version of me would have chucked the microphone on the floor.

[Stugotz]

A present day version of me almost did the same thing. I couldn't believe, you know, there was a part of me that didn't want to believe there was a chance the Heat could win the game. And down the stretch, they, they start losing with about two minutes. It was an unbelievable game. The fourth quarter was electric. It was such a fun game. And I was, you know, hoping that I could get to be a part of fun energy after a close win like that and, you know, be able to fist pump toward an NBA league pass camera. And instead I had to experience one of the more deflating moments of my work life at the very least, if not professional life. Yeah, I mean, guys, that it would have been to break an eight game losing streak, the longest of of spo's career. I can imagine. Whoever I would have been able to talk to after the game would have been a really good interview.

[Greg Cody]

This is about you.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, of course it was about me.

[Dan LeBatard]

I need to explain.

[Chris Cody]

That's what I said the other day too.

[Dan LeBatard]

I need to explain to people how rare it is for a body under any circumst circumstances to physically sag that way with overt disappointment. Like you give me all of the times I've said this before about sports, right? Whatever you think is the happiest moment of your life, you weren't jumping up and down when your child was born the way you were jumping up and down wherever it is you were when your best sports moment ended up happening.

[Chris Cody]

So much happier in 2006.

[Dan LeBatard]

And I'm asking you guys to tell me on what circumstances you would find yourself so visibly dejected. That's. That's an argument with your spouse, right? Like what? Where are the places where you're so physically dejected that you see his shoulders go from where they were at a man's height of about 59 or 5 10, whatever he is, to the height of a man who is now 5, 6, or David Sampson size because his shoulders sag so much. In an arena full of people whose shoulders are sagging that way after several years of feeling like your shoulders are sagging that way.

[Mike Ryan]

Last time my shoulders did what Jeremy's did was when Jacoby George had that personal foul penalty as Miami was driving at Syracuse. Oh, we did. We were so close to Kobe.

[Jeremy Tashay]

How about the third down where that guy from Georgia Tech wearing number 49 or whatever, ran for like 27 yards?

[Dan LeBatard]

And you're like, no, get him, get him.

[Mike Ryan]

Isaiah Horton dropping the slant. That seven yard slant. It was in your head.

[Dan LeBatard]

Please put it on the poll.

[Mike Ryan]

Please.

[Dan LeBatard]

Juju at lebatard show. Do you know why anyone was putting feathers in their cap?

[Mike Ryan]

So it goes back to military tradition in Europe. Native Americans would do it. Genghis Khan would do it. You would award feathers for acts of valor, like helmet stickers?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, it's like the stickers.

[Mike Ryan]

Buckeyes, okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

For any act of valor, for acts.

[Mike Ryan]

Of bravery or, you know, just like, hey man, good job out there on the battlefield.

[Jeremy Tashay]

Kick the ass, dude.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, here's a feather.

[Dan LeBatard]

So just to be clear, I'm just. I just want to be clear. So someone has done something in war, they have killed a person. They've come home, and what we do is then pluck a bird and hand them some. Hand them a single feather as a noble act sometimes.

[Mike Ryan]

But also sometimes it's a lot more gory than that.

[Chris Cody]

So if you run into a guy who's got, like, a bunch of feathers, like, that guy's not with, for example.

[Mike Ryan]

Like, that is one of the Native American practices, but there are others you.

[Dan LeBatard]

Don'T want to mess with. The guy who has a bunch of feathers in his.

[Jeremy Tashay]

I've got one from Kate. Or it's a huge feather, by the way.

[Dan LeBatard]

I also want to play for the audience the greatest spinning leg kick that I have ever seen in my life. Tony probably knows this. I don't know if the rest of you know this, but someone who has perfect form on the spinning leg kick, which is the deadliest of all the kicks, there's no more power that can be had from a kick than what we're about to show you. But someone who's got exceptional form on the spinning leg kick is Joe Rogan. Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Do you have to clarify with a kick that it's a leg kick?

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, I get it. This is redundant. Yeah. It sounds. A lot of people say ATM machine. That's redundant. A lot of people say nit tournament. That's redundant. Spinning leg kick might indeed be redundant.

[Mike Ryan]

I know when they specify, like, spinning.

[Dan LeBatard]

Back heel kick, but, Tony, I got this. Right, right. It's not spinning kick. It's spinning back leg kick.

[Jeremy Tashay]

Yeah. It depends on where you hit with the. With the foot. Right. Spinning heel kick is what we saw the other day where Bobby King Green got knocked out by Mauricio Ruffie, which was an incredible, like, temple hit his heel like it was over. So, yeah, spinning leg kick. But Dan, Joe, go goo.

[Dan LeBatard]

My favorite part of this video is how little concern this fighter has for what he's just wrought. Like he is.

[Mike Ryan]

So the splash zone is incredible from this kick. Look at all the. The moisture that flies off of triple H. Yeah, it is exactly Triple H coming out.

[Jeremy Tashay]

The last time I saw that much sweat get hit off a body was when Kamaru Usman knocked out Jorge Masvidal. We were like, oh, God, that's a lot of water.

[Chris Cody]

That guy died, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

He did not die. But that is a reasonable assumption for you to make because in the center of the ring, as he gets a foot under the chin that makes him fall to the center of the ring, his sweat goes 10 rows deep into the crowd. It goes straight up. It's a punt. It is. The sweat travels the way a punted football would travel.

[Mike Ryan]

He lands a kick at the absolute apex of it. And Jeremy, congratulations. I think that's the shortest reign. In picture. In picture.

[Stugotz]

I was going to say he fell even harder than my shoulders did. Hey, friends, it's Jerbear here and I'm here to tell you all about Boost Mobile, which is now a legit nationwide 5G network. So I must take a break from the jokes here for a second and put on my serious voice because I would never, ever joke about a 5G network that has invested billions building 5G towers across the country. Not even once. Not even if Mr. Boost Mobile himself asked me to. There is nothing funny about it. Boost Mobile is now a legit nationwide 5G network and also provides coverage across 99% of America. Seriously? Visit boostmobile.com or your nearest Boost Mobile store location to learn more. The Boost Mobile network, together with our roaming partners, covers 99% of the US population. 5G speeds not available in all areas.

[Dan LeBatard]

Don LeBatard Stugats now play D and show threes as they chase the nets.

[Stugotz]

For the six seed. These five words in his head scream my way.

[Dan LeBatard]

Winning games yet.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

[Dan LeBatard]

I have another video that you guys can put a picture in picture. And it's just. And I think all of us will stop on this. You correct me if I'm wrong. All of us will always stop on the video of somebody falling on a treadmill. Put it on the poll, please. Juju at lebitage.

[Mike Ryan]

This is your thing. You love these things so much.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. Anybody falling on a treadmill.

[Mike Ryan]

You pass quite the net when it comes to the comedy.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm not alone. I am not alone in finding funny. And always stopping on the person at the gym who falls on the treadmill.

[Mike Ryan]

These are children.

[Dan LeBatard]

Why are two of you in the gym?

[Mike Ryan]

These are children.

[Chris Cody]

No, that's how you know it's real. Some of them are set up. You know it's real because it's kids.

[Jeremy Tashay]

The rules against this. That kid's leg's broken, right?

[Stugotz]

He hit the wall.

[Jeremy Tashay]

So right there.

[Dan LeBatard]

Mike says you love these. Who doesn't love these? This is. This is. You can't. I know we can't get consensus on anything, but you can't tell me that there are people in the world who don't love videos of people falling on treadmill.

[Mike Ryan]

Force myself to not like it. Honestly. It's like when. Because farts are funny. But if Someone goes for a fart joke and movie, you're almost like, I can't laugh at this. I can't sign off on this, but you know it's funny.

[Dan LeBatard]

Zaz, what do you do about the Miami Heat? I'm not even talking about the. I'm not even talking about this year when I suspect that most Heat fans are just like, lose the rain, lose all of the remaining games except the one against the Warriors.

[Chris Cody]

It doesn't even matter. Well, and by the way, speaking of the warriors, they only have two more games until Golden State comes here. If the Heat are on an 11 game losing streak when Jimmy Butler gets back, that is such an embarrassment.

[Stugotz]

I'll tell you that really embarrasses winning that game to break an 11 game losing streak. I'd rather losing every game for the rest.

[Chris Cody]

I don't want the storyline. It's. I'm so embarrassed by it. That's going to be a headline all day long on ESPN television that Jimmy Butler returns to Miami with the heat on an 11 game losing streak.

[Greg Cody]

As we debated last week, you think that he'd do a video for him?

[Chris Cody]

Great question. I think the answer is yes. And, and I have also, I thought about this yesterday. Very good coincidence that you brought this up because this was in my head yesterday. I think the crowd will cheer him.

[Greg Cody]

I agree. Yeah, I think you'll hear some booze.

[Chris Cody]

I think enough time has gone by. I think the crowd will cheer him and because you know, Mike Biamante is going to do the whole. The big intro, which I don't like, by the way, but he's going to do the whole big intro at the start. I think Jimmy's going to get a very.

[Dan LeBatard]

Can we make a bet here? Because there's a difference, though.

[Greg Cody]

Some. I think we all agree during the starting lineups announcements, he'll get that. But will he then in like the first quarter, get of a video montage? That's extra.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, well, you, you and Mike Ryan are on record. And I've seen this move, Mike Ryan before. It's a crafty one where he puts himself in a position where he gets to win no matter what by trying to be classy about Jimmy Butler and saying, I'm rooting for him in the event that he does win. So the pain hurts.

[Chris Cody]

I'm not rooting for him.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I know he says he's rooting for him so that the pain will hurt less if he is hoisting the trophy, but when you guys say that, you believe this. I haven't talked to anybody at the Heat, but I do know how angry Pat Riley is and I'd be surprised if he puts down that anger in the name of optics. I'd be willing to bet the other way that you're not going to get the glory. You might get something, but you're. You're going to get a token. Something so that it can't be a conversation. Oh, the Miami Heat were super small in this instance, but you will not get the biggest grateful thing you think.

[Chris Cody]

It'll just be a picture of him on the Jumbotron. Thank you, Jimmy. Not even a video.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't. I don't believe that they're going to get past all their pettiness while possibly in the middle of an 11 game losing streak that they blame him for.

[Mike Ryan]

You're gonna undo everything that is said about your organization, though, in one season because the culture thing has become a punchline. And another thing that they usually say about this organization is that it's first class. So we're gonna choose that opportunity to be petty. It's just. It's over. It's done with his. His problem was with the front office and ownership and Pat Riley. It wasn't with this community. I know people feel a certain way about Jimmy and, and I understand if you're a passionate he fan. You don't like the way that went down and you don't like what he did. But it's over. It's somewhat. You have way more good memories with Jimmy Butler.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

And you have to give the opportunity to the fans to respond however they may want. But you leave it up to the fans and you give them that opportunity.

[Greg Cody]

Ignoring it makes us seem like we're so hurt by this.

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't say ignore it.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, they're not going to ignore it.

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't say there would be an.

[Greg Cody]

Just like a thank you. Like a small thing will make us seem like, oh, wow, they're hurt.

[Dan LeBatard]

But you guys, you guys say you have more memories, good memories, than bad memories. And that's true. But you also have as the bad memories, something unprecedented in the history of the franchise. You have a mess unlike any other. And I don't think either. I don't think two things. I don't think that the Heat will put on some grand display. And I think you guys are giving Miami fans more credit for how it is that they behave when they're angry than I'm willing to give them for when they're angry.

[Mike Ryan]

That's fine. I would give them the Opportunity. I. I think you owe it to the fans even more than you owe it to Jimmy to let them have that moment and speak for themselves.

[Chris Cody]

I do think they're getting a video. I think you're getting the big introduction at the starting lineup. I think you're getting the video, and then they move on.

[Mike Ryan]

I can only be so mad at Jimmy for making it messy. That's what Jimmy does when he wants to get out of town. I can get. I'm mostly disappointed at Pat because I think he backed Jimmy into a corner that made it extra messy.

[Stugotz]

But also, you know that. Right. Like, the common fan might not understand that Jimmy always makes a mess when he leaves and then has a really good start in the next place.

[Mike Ryan]

So it's a great point.

[Dan LeBatard]

There's.

[Stugotz]

There's kind of. I would imagine it's probably 60, 40 cheers for Jimmy. Maybe 75, 25. I would.

[Chris Cody]

That's a lot of booze, I'm telling you.

[Mike Ryan]

That'll sound more like booze if it's talking.

[Stugotz]

In talking to fans around the arena. Like, there was a fan there yesterday wearing a Jimmy Butler warriors jersey.

[Chris Cody]

I have a little integrity.

[Stugotz]

Right. And the people. Well, but. Exactly. That was the response from every person I talked to him in that section.

[Dan LeBatard]

You are applying logic to something that's emotional. It's not really how rage works. Like, that's not. You're saying that Jeremy's making a good point by taking into account the history, being reasonable, and if you attack this unemotionally, all of you are right. But that's not the nature of fandom to be unemotional.

[Chris Cody]

Well, but which was worse, LeBron leaving.

[Mike Ryan]

Or Jimmy LeBron way worse.

[Chris Cody]

Well, we gave LeBron a really good, you know, welcome when they came back.

[Mike Ryan]

When he was able to come back and he actually played because, remember, he avoided that situation entirely for his first several opportunities to do so. But I guess I have, like, some separation from it, because that's true.

[Chris Cody]

The first time they were able to come and he beat them, Remember, Juwan Howard smiled.

[Mike Ryan]

Was that the very first time? Okay, well, I know that he was like a DMP for a lot, but. Okay, you're right. But. But I've been separated from the emotion of the Miami Heat because of the way that the season's gone down. But the Jimmy thing is totally different than the LeBron thing because Jimmy's at the end of his career and he may have one last.

[Chris Cody]

Which you would believe would make the response to LeBron even worse. And we gave him a nice response.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, I'm just explaining how I feel about it. Not only was I more passionate about the brand itself, But I knew LeBron leaving at that point in his career ripped away several more NBA Finals.

[Chris Cody]

So much more devastating. So much more.

[Mike Ryan]

Whereas this. This is the guy at the end of his career and he's.

[Chris Cody]

This was essentially what it was.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

And when it ends that way, though, and you're looking at it from the perspective of a fan that. That knows how the league works, knows how basketball works. When you're talking about the common fan, that's just like buying tickets to a game and they're saying, oh, Jimmy's coming back into town. That sounds interesting.

[Chris Cody]

They're dumb.

[Stugotz]

No, I'm saying that not everyone works on a. A sports radio show. Not everyone works for a sports podcast and has the ability to look at it and say, oh, man, for the rest of his career, he'll be this. They might have just looked at it when LeBron came back into town and say, he won two championships. We still have D. Wade and Chris Bosh. Things are fine. We're going to be competitive. It's cool. Where that same fan might look at it now and go, hey, Jimmy never actually won officially anything here. We had those great moments. But the way this gets sabotaged and leads to the longest losing streak of spo's career, it might leave the common fan a little more bitter than those of us with the perspective to look at the long term of both of their careers.

[Jeremy Tashay]

The perspective you're giving the common fan, while also saying that, oh, Jimmy's coming to town. We should do it again and just kind of hang out and watch him. Like, it feels like they can't both be the same.

[Stugotz]

Some people will say, oh, Jimmy's coming back to town. He ruined everything. Let's go and boo him. And some people will say, oh, Jimmy's coming back to town. That's going to be an event. Let's go cheer.

[Dan LeBatard]

I've never understood either the mentality of the heckler or the booer. It's not something. I'm not saying that you shouldn't do it or that it's not right to do it.

[Chris Cody]

You've never got up at a game and went, boo, David.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I have not. But David Sampson used to be a heckler before. As a fan, he was an actual heckler. I've never understood. Because it's not just boo. Okay, you're suggesting that Taboo is just to get your frustration out. No, it is. It's so you can see all around you that people are watching you and your frustration. You're trying to be so loud that you make sure that everyone notices you're disgusted. And the reason that I don't agree with you guys on what he's going to get in terms of a return is because you guys aren't paying attention to how many unhappy people there are in Miami who want attention for their unhappiness. And the state of the heat right now, no matter what your logic is, the state of the heat right now is it didn't feel like this the five years he was here. It didn't feel like this until he did everything he did at the end, whether he was right or wrong to do it. What you presently have, which is a. What feels like a hopeless future right now, right? Because you're like, how are they going to fix this? You could blame it on one of two people, and only one of them is going to have the opportunity if you give him a video in order to express your frustration with him, because it's either him or Pat Riley, and your frustration is just going to be about the nine game losing streak.

[Chris Cody]

Boy, that's going to be an ugly scene. If they're playing a video and it's just raining down booze.

[Stugotz]

I don't see that.

[Chris Cody]

I don't. I don't see it either. But, man, that will be an ugly scene.

[Mike Ryan]

We keep talking about how the Heat fans are going to react to it. I'm starting to warm up to. I'm more interested to see how Jimmy handles it even, like, no matter the reaction, like, let's say the fans largely applaud. Is he gonna do like a classy wave to the crowd and. And try to share the love and. Yeah, we had.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, he's always said that about. He says he's connected to the city and the fans. He said that throughout.

[Mike Ryan]

He's a different guy when he's on the court and he knows the cameras are on him. And I'm genuinely curious, like, is he gonna be able to separate the reception from the fans, from his feelings about the organization? Does he take an opportunity to show that he doesn't care? Does he just blankly stare? Which I think is probably a likely.

[Chris Cody]

Outcome I'm mostly interested in. They're playing that video and then they pan to Pat Riley and he gets up, goes, boo. And he's the only one who's actually.

[Greg Cody]

Or there's booze everywhere during it. And they cut to Riley and he's just got a maniacal smile. He's just like that's what I really wanted. I knew they'd boo you, so I did the classy thing just to inspire them to boo.

[Tony]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Yep.

[Tony]

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[Chris Cody]

That was a long story.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, it's the only kind he tells.

[David Sampson]

It's a short one for me. I tried to speed it up for you guys.

[Mike Ryan]

You forgot about the league's cup stugats.

[David Sampson]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

La Carreta is a place where the best of the celebrations has to be the 97 Marlin celebration because it was Levon.

[David Sampson]

Well, when Fidel died the first time.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Don lebatar show with the Stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

I wanted to ask you guys about our. Our tournament and the tournament that begins today with a plethora of action.

[Chris Cody]

What are you guys doing?

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, we have our own tournament of fans going against each other for the right to watch the national championship game that I don't want to watch with them. So.

[Chris Cody]

Well, okay, so I got questions. How do you decide the fans? How does. How does that. How's that?

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, we have an assortment of videos, 30 seconds or less. We have seeded them and we've asked the fans. I need to clarify, by the way, I didn't mean to say I don't want to watch the game with a fan from our.

[Chris Cody]

I understood exactly how you though.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't want to watch the game with a fan from our show. It's too bad. What I was meaning to say is that I simply don't want to have to watch the national championship game. I don't. I don't want to be obligated to do it. And it's been given away as a prize because I'm pretty sure Billy just wants to bother me. It's not watch the game with our Show. It's just watch the game with me. Which is also less fun for the fan than it would be to watch the game with our entire show.

[Jeremy Tashay]

Is he coming over your house? Like, what's the deal?

[Dan LeBatard]

He or she? He or she? I don't know what the rules are to this.

[Jeremy Tashay]

He or she come out.

[Dan LeBatard]

No one has informed me so far. All the videos we've shown are of men.

[Mike Ryan]

No.

[Dan LeBatard]

That. What do we have. What do we have to update our tournament? Because the thing I wanted to say about the tournament that I didn't realize until reading it this morning, the eight one and two seeds, five of the coaches are 65 plus. I mean, I just spent time last weekend with Larry Nag and Leonard Hamilton on our show, where both of them, like, I'm out of here, man. I got to get. This is crazy. What is happening out there. You got. Leonard Hamilton's team is boycotting because they want more money. Larry naked, two days after he gets to the final four, eight of his players are like, love you, coach. I'm leaving. And. And so to have five of the coaches who are the top seeds and the favorites to win this tournament be 65 plus. Let's see if we can name them here. Bruce, Pearl, Barnes, Patino.

[Stugotz]

Izzo.

[Dan LeBatard]

Who am I missing? I'm missing somebody.

[Chris Cody]

I'm going to tell you. Duke in Florida are not 65. All right, those are two of the Sam.

[Dan LeBatard]

Kelvin Sampson is the. Is the fifth one. It is a little bit. That's unusual, is it not? I mean, Izzo's got to be 70, right? Izzo? How many consecutive tournaments is Izzo made? Like, this is a good coach. I mean, thank you. I appreciate that, but I think it's a quarter century of consecutive tournament appearances. 70 is so not 70. It's not 70 straight.

[Jeremy Tashay]

No, he's 70 years old. You got.

[Greg Cody]

That would have been wild.

[Chris Cody]

Which games are the fans watching with you?

[Greg Cody]

The championship game.

[Chris Cody]

The championship game. Yeah. So you're. And how many of these fans, like, how do they. How many.

[Dan LeBatard]

One winner. One. One. The fans will vote on whatever is the best video here. Can we play some of these for. For Zaslow so he can see what it is that we're doing?

[Chris Cody]

Look at that guy.

[Dan LeBatard]

You.

[Greg Cody]

You asked for if there. You asked if there are any women in this tournament. Our first matchup, we're going to preview Here is a one seed seed Thomas from Flanagan's versus 16 seed Sarah. Hit it, guys.

[Mike Ryan]

Why do I deserve the crown for this year's March sadness? Well, if I've Learned anything watching the show. It's always side with Greg Cody. So I spent a lot of money on cameo for this endorsement. I hope you like it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Who needs me?

[Stugotz]

It's the manager of the Lobos.

[Mike Ryan]

Just want to support this guy because he gave me money through cameo. And I do want to say in all seriousness, back in my day, we.

[Dan LeBatard]

Used to take our alley.

[Chris Cody]

It's Dan, Stu and Greg Cody on Esme Radio.

[Stugotz]

Hey, Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

My name is Sarah.

[Tony]

My husband is a super fan and.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm a super fan. We share the same friends. I think you'll appreciate this. This was a lebo painting and I'll prove it.

[Greg Cody]

Hope to see you soon.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, that's cheating.

[Greg Cody]

Lebo painting at her wedding. That's strong.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, that's cheating.

[Greg Cody]

That's a 16 seed. So that's going up against Flanagan's guy. We move on now to our two verse 15. We have Mark's wife, Mark, wife's Emmy.

[Dan LeBatard]

Try it again.

[Greg Cody]

Mark's wife's Emmy vs 15 seed Logan from Iowa.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hello. No, it's not Pitbull. My name is Mark Alexin and I would like to enter the contest. Contest? But it's not about what you can do for me. It's what I can do for you. If selected, I will give Stugots this 1980s starting lineup Mark Gastonau figure. Also, I'll give the crew this fruitopia and most importantly, you guys could have my wife's Emmy. I didn't win it, but you guys can have it. I don't think.

[Stugotz]

What up? It's Logan. It's your boy. Reasons why you should pick me for this competition. I am from Des Moines, Iowa, so I fulfilled Dan's need to constantly throw Des Moines, Iowa into a conversation for no reason. I am the winner of the inaugural Iowa pfpi. I can give you a looks like at any time.

[Greg Cody]

For example, Mike McDaniel looks like Sid from Toy Story.

[Stugotz]

Looks like he grew up and got his life together. And I got a song about Smith ready to go.

[Dan LeBatard]

Do you realize that the way that you did the apostrophes, Chris, that fan was allowing me to have his wife Emmy.

[Mike Ryan]

If you're listening to the podcast, you're pretty certain that guy says we can bang his wife.

[Chris Cody]

You should watch with that guy.

[Mike Ryan]

He'll definitely pull up a chair.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's play some more of these here to update our tournament and see if Chris Cody has any more trouble with apostrophe in.

[Mike Ryan]

Let's go.

[Greg Cody]

Excited about this? This is our number three seed, Cincinnati Lou versus number 14 seed Austin. Open. Opening a Miller Light.

[Jeremy Tashay]

What a sound.

[Mike Ryan]

Everyone can tell by the sound.

[Greg Cody]

He's just chugging a Miller Light.

[Mike Ryan]

He's got a Lobo bowl number one shirt that's vintage, not a pitch clock hat.

[Greg Cody]

Pandering. Chugging a Miller Light. That's strong. Now let's see what Austin's.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's all he did.

[Jeremy Tashay]

That's all he needed, Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, come on. How is that a three seed? Oh, wow.

[Stugotz]

It's caught me sipping on a beverage.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's a lot of stuff.

[Greg Cody]

That guy's got a lot of show swag. There's pride of a lion.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, come on.

[Jeremy Tashay]

Signed copy.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's. It's not as good a bribe's personal record book as the Gaston on bobblehead. It's not as good a bride.

[Stugotz]

You get the idea.

[Jeremy Tashay]

Idea.

[Dan LeBatard]

64 guys.

[Stugotz]

No, no.

[Dan LeBatard]

New Maruno. Gracias.

[Chris Cody]

Mante, give me a shot.

[Dan LeBatard]

These are largely video instead of audio. Actively alienating our audio audience with our tournament. Go ahead and do the last one.

[Greg Cody]

Final update here we have number four seed David from Toronto. Famous show listener versus 13 seed Will.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, this is David from Toronto. Toronto.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm working.

[Chris Cody]

I want to be watching with you, Dan.

[Stugotz]

You're my idol.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm doing. I'm plowing a graveyard. And not only that, I don't even have a windshield.

[Chris Cody]

It's plastic.

[Dan LeBatard]

If I don't deserve this, nobody does.

[Greg Cody]

Let's see. Austin. Dan, one of the very first times I ever listened to your show, you.

[Stugotz]

Told Ron McGill that you thought penguins were more closely related to fish than to birds. And yet I kept listening.

[Greg Cody]

So if I'm chosen by the listeners.

[Stugotz]

To watch the NCAA Men's National Basketball.

[Greg Cody]

Championship game with you and to do an in studio visit, I will require.

[Stugotz]

Us to do so in penguin costumes.

[Greg Cody]

Because I know you love that great stuff.

[Chris Cody]

Austin, I can't believe you're doing it.

[Greg Cody]

That was Will, not Austin.

[Jeremy Tashay]

That's me.

[Dan LeBatard]

Excellent work by you as always, Chris. It's why you're in the chair that you're in. I still maintain that the penguin feels to me closer to a fish than a bird. Just because I don't think of birds spending a lot of time swimming underwater. And so forgive me for that error, but I still put it on the pole. Put it at Lebaton show to you. What is a penguin more of a fish or a bird? I just want to see what comes back. I just want to see what comes, comes back.

[Chris Cody]

It's got wings.

[Greg Cody]

So voting for all those matchups and all of our first round matchups will be for 24 hours. Right now go to our social media vote for the matchups, decide who wins, and we will update next week.

[Jeremy Tashay]

Dan, I will say the body of the penguin, very sleek in nature, Right? So that's why the fish kind of thing, like in smooth feathers.

[Dan LeBatard]

No feathers. You got no feathers to put in your cap off a penguin.

[Mike Ryan]

What are you talking about? Covered in feathers? Yeah. Is this a thing? People confuse penguins with fish. This is not a thing.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think it's a thing. I think I'm the only one who does it.

[Mike Ryan]

They have feathers.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think of them as sleek. I don't. I've never seen a penguin feather away from the penguins. I have one in my calf. That's not something that I've seen a.

[Mike Ryan]

Plotter of fish pluck it. You think it's like a killer whale?

[Dan LeBatard]

I think, yes. I think of the penguin as having a.

[Mike Ryan]

They're just wet because they're. They're. They go into the water more than other birds.

[Dan LeBatard]

More than all the other birds.

[Mike Ryan]

You watch March of the Penguins, I mean, they're in snow. That's also why there's moisture on them.

[Dan LeBatard]

I learned a lot during March of the Penguins.

[Mike Ryan]

Did you learn that they were birds?

[Dan LeBatard]

I know that they're birds. I'm saying that before learning that they were birds, I thought of them more as fish.

[Chris Cody]

Can I tell you, speaking of penguin, a couple weeks ago, I went by. I passed by Batman Returns on television. Penguin, Danny DeVito. Movie's horrible. Horrible.

[Mike Ryan]

It's a great Christmas movie.

[Chris Cody]

Movie is horrible.

[Mike Ryan]

Christopher Walken's in it.

[Chris Cody]

I hadn't seen it in probably 25 years. Movie is horrible.

[Greg Cody]

I love when the Penguin goes to, like, the holiday party.

[Stugotz]

Ooh, good impression.

[Chris Cody]

Nobody thinks it's weird that he looks like that. Like, it's.

[Greg Cody]

I know.

[Mike Ryan]

It's just like, yeah, he runs for mayor.

[Chris Cody]

Awful movie. Awful.

[Dan LeBatard]

In terms of things not holding up. I remember, okay.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, Rudy Giuliani looked the way.

[Dan LeBatard]

That he did when Jack Nicholson played the Joker. It was seen as seminal and groundbreaking. And then you see Heath Ledger or you see Colin Farrell do the Penguin, and you look back at the 90s and how we were doing those things, and none of it holds. None of it holds up.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

You seem disgusted.

[Chris Cody]

Well, I was disgusted because it felt like a part of my childhood was taken from me where the original Batman and Batman Returns I thought were really good movies. And then I passed by this dreck with Danny DeVito and I just. How. How did anyone. I immediately went to Rotten Tomatoes to see what the tomato meter was on Batman Returns because it had to be one of the lowest rated movies ever. And I just didn't know it. And like, it's got a high score and I don't get it. The movie is horrorful.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, there's still Batman and Robin. I mean, that's pretty.

[Chris Cody]

But everybody knows that movie sucks. I feel like people think Batman Returns is good. It's not. That movie is bad.

[Mike Ryan]

Really disappointed in this take. I happen to really like that one.

[Dan LeBatard]

Can you guys just find for me, please, what I associate always with. With the best and funniest video ever produced by Batman in any form, which is the original Batman television show with them running. No, this is a great one. If you have not seen this at George Clooney's.

[Mike Ryan]

Nipples.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, no, I'm going to the original. I'm going.

[Mike Ryan]

It's from the movie. I know where Adam West, Batman.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, Adam West, Batman. And it's the helicopter scene where Batman is hanging from a ladder and is attacked by a shark. And it's. It's the graphics from 1960s. So he's using a shark repell. To get a shark that's off. Like the helicopter is hovering over the ocean. This is groundbreaking for its time, but it's clearly a toy plastic shark. And I want to find that video and simply put it up on the screen. And I just want to watch it together. Even this, even though this also alienates the audio audience. I just want to enjoy this together so that. So that we can howl with laughter the moment that this shark attacks. Tony has not seen this. Please just focus on Tony's face right now so that you can see his. His reaction to when the 1960s. Our friend Adam west, the late Adam west, has a problem with a shark that emerges from the water because the TV graphics and special effects aren't quite up to snuff. Just stay on Tony's face.

[Greg Cody]

He's dropping down to the water.

[Dan LeBatard]

Whoa.

[Chris Cody]

Robin is shook.

[Jeremy Tashay]

It's just attached to him.

[Mike Ryan]

I love that Robin had to break it to him. You got a shark on your leg.

[Jeremy Tashay]

You are supposed to punch the nose of a shark, by the way, it's so inflated.