Local Hour: Miami Is Finland?

Summary

Podcast Summary — The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Local Hour: Miami Is Finland?
Date: January 19, 2026
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Overview

This “Local Hour” dives deep into the cultural, emotional, and sporting significance of the Miami Hurricanes playing Indiana for the College Football National Championship in Miami. The hosts—Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and regular contributors—relay the mood in Miami, dissect the (sometimes dubious) status of Miami’s “home field advantage,” weigh the wider narrative favoring Indiana’s underdog story, and debate the implications of football’s targeting rule using characteristic irreverence and humor. There’s a spirited balance between local Miami pride and amused, sometimes exasperated, recognition of the national storylines enveloping the game.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Miami’s “Home Field Advantage” and Fan Presence

[00:31–02:21]

• The crew jokes about the lack of Miami fans in local hotels, with Indiana supporters seemingly everywhere downtown.
  • “Mike Ryan's been doing [exercises] all morning...he's trying to get all the liquor out from this weekend.” (Dan, 00:37)
  • “I haven't seen a single Miami fan staying at this hotel...it’s going to be more even than it’s portrayed.” (Lucy, 01:44)
• There's skepticism about whether Miami actually has a meaningful edge, despite playing at home.
  • “On my plane and is a Miami fan. It’s crazy.” (Stugotz, 02:09)

2. Miami as “Finland”—The National Narrative

[02:29–03:55, 08:24–09:19]

• Dave Damashek, channeling the wider college football universe, compares Miami’s spoiler role to Finland in the “Miracle on Ice” Olympic narrative.
  • “That’s how America regards the U right now...you are Finland to the rest of football America. You’re in the way of the final chapter of the feel-good story that is the Indiana Hoosiers...” (Damashek, 08:24)
• The panel debates whether Miami should care or embrace its villain status, with most leaning into the Miami swagger.
  • “Miami loves being the villain...you just put us in our wheelhouse.” (Zaslow, 12:28)

3. Energy, Anticipation, and the “Forever Night”

[11:00–12:07]

• The hosts express the sense of anticipation in Miami, calling this a potential “forever night” for the city.
  • “This has a chance to be a forever night...I'm so excited for my city and for everyone who has waited so long for this.” (Zaslow, 11:31)
• The championship is described as crossing generations and cultures, bigger than any other recent South Florida sports event.

4. The Spread, Narrative, and Indiana’s Meteoric Rise

[05:34–08:22]

• Discussion about Miami being significant underdogs (7.5–8.5 points) despite the home field, and how Indiana went from longshots to favorites.
  • “100-to-1 betting odds...Indiana is so historically bad at football that like, you need more than a one year sample size to buy in.” (Lucy, 08:00)
• There’s back-and-forth over whether Indiana’s story is a fluke vs. a true transformation.

5. Miami’s Community and Local Color

[19:52–22:32]

• Tony reports energetically from Calle Ocho, hyping Miami’s warlike emotional stakes for the game.
  • “Everywhere you step today in Miami is a war zone...we’re under threat of the entire nation laughing at us.” (Tony, 19:52)
• The team plans dispersed live coverage and watch parties at notable Miami spots, emphasizing how this event saturates the city.

6. Controversy Over Targeting and Officiating in Big Games

[24:42–36:18]

• Dan and company criticize the targeting penalty that will sideline Miami’s Xavier Lucas for the first half after a questionable call in the semifinals.
  • “The idea that Lucas can’t play the first half...it’s wrong...it’s not intent.” (Dan, 24:42)
  • “It's like, is it art or is it porn? You know it when you see targeting...not worthy of that [suspension].” (Lucy, 26:05)
• There is consensus that the automatic ejection/suspension for targeting is excessively punitive, especially in title games.

7. Who’s Rooting for Who: Conference Loyalties and Miami Hate

[28:53–30:14]

• “Do you root for your conference?” Lucy admits she does, even as a conference rival to Indiana, because more money and prestige benefits Iowa.
  • “There is a direct incentive for Indiana to win. We get more money. It's better for my conference.” (Lucy, 29:08)
• She also candidly confesses a dislike for Miami after living there, extending that to all Miami sports teams, even club volleyball.

8. Game Analysis & “Canes Insight”

[41:02–45:22]

• Mike Ryan delivers his detailed on-field take: Miami has a major size advantage on its O-line, should control the game via the run, and is uniquely set up to wear Indiana down.
  • “Miami matches up really well here. I think Miami's gonna go on 14 play drives. They're going to lean on these guys…I feel really good about this game.” (Mike Ryan, 41:02)
• There’s a breakdown of key matchups: Miami’s O-line vs. Indiana’s stunting D-line, and whether Indiana can pressure Miami's QB.
• Lucy and Mike agree the battle in the trenches is the real key; a lot hinges not on the quarterbacks, but on line play and running game.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mike Ryan, on Miami’s supposed advantage:
  “I think they're actually going to be shocked at how not home gamey this is going to feel for Indiana.” (02:00)
• Dave Damashek, on Miami’s national reputation:
  “You are Finland to the rest of football America. You are in the way of the final chapter of the feel-good story that is the Indiana Hoosiers led by Fernando Mendoza.” (08:24)
• Zaslow, embracing the villain role:
  “Miami loves being the villain. See, now we're in our wheelhouse.” (12:28)
• Tony, reporting from Calle Ocho:
  “Everywhere you step today in Miami is a war zone. Every single step. Anybody that's walking around understands what we're under right now.” (19:52)
• Lucy, on targeting:
  “You know when you see targeting…that hit should not prohibit anyone from playing in the national championship game.” (26:05)
• Dan, on officiating:
  “If you're going to do everything by letter of the law, there's no reason to have human beings being applying subjective logic.” (24:42)
• Mike Ryan, on his bold prediction:
  "Miami matches up really well here...I think we're gonna see a team wear out over the course of the game..." (41:02)
• On Miami sports hate:
  “I didn’t really like living in Miami and that sort of, like, poured out into a hatred of all Miami teams across the board. The Dolphins, the Marlins. Hell, the Miami club volleyball team. Don’t like it.” (Lucy, 30:09)

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Important Timestamps

• Discussing hotel/atmosphere and “home” crowd — 00:31–02:21
• “Finland” analogy & Miami’s national image — 02:29, 08:24
• Vegas line/Indiana as a betting story — 05:34–08:22
• Miami as the villain and city pride — 12:07–12:40
• Tony’s Calle Ocho “war zone” report — 19:52–22:32
• Targeting rule debate — 24:42–26:58, 35:39–36:18
• Who Lucy is rooting for/the “conference” question — 28:53–30:14
• Mike Ryan’s game preview (Canes analysis) — 41:02–43:43
• Matchup/key personnel breakdown — 43:01–44:50

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Tone & Style

• Banter-heavy, irreverent, and ultra-local, the crew blends sports talk with Miami-centric cultural commentary, wry humor, and a bit of self-aware bluster.
• Moments of genuine analysis are interspersed with playful digs and self-deprecating jokes.
• The atmosphere is one of anticipation, anxiety, and celebration—a “this is why we love sports” vibe, with Miami’s peculiar flavor stamped on every exchange.

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Takeaways

• Miami may not actually have “home field” but it has swagger—and, in the eyes of America, the role of the entertainment villain.
• Indiana is universally the feel-good, Cinderella team, while Miami leans into its role as the heel.
• The targeting rule and officiating draw broad criticism as needlessly harsh in high-stakes games.
• In-game, the matchup will revolve around Miami’s size up front and how Indiana’s D-line responds.
• For both Miami and the city’s sports fans, this is more than just a game—it’s a major cultural event, a possible “forever night,” and an episode that amplifies all the joy, tension, and irreverence that the Dan Le Batard Show delivers.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Know how during the introductions boxers hop back and forth from foot to foot to sort of stay warm?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Mike Ryan's been doing that all morning and I think it's just because he's so polluted that he's trying to get all the liquor out from this weekend. I don't think he's going to make it to tonight. I think he's going to get there crawling. Lucy. Lucy might be hurting too, but that might just be because she's back in Miami and doesn't like being here.

[D]

No comment.

[B]

Mike, what was your weekend like?

[C]

Fantastic, Dan. It's been great playing host college football world here. I just hope they take it easy on us. It's greatest team of all time. You know, I said a lot of prayers last night hoping that we can just stay in this, you know, make it a four quarter game.

[B]

I just saw on my TV screen on get up I saw the question. It was on the graphic. Does home field advantage matter for Miami? What kind of question is that? Like what kind of question is that?

[D]

Do they have home field advantage? Everyone staying in this hotel right now is an Indiana fan.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You know what, I can tell because they keep trying to have conversations with me in the elevator.

[E]

Reason for that?

[C]

Yeah, it's kind of crazy that I haven't seen a single Miami fan staying at this hotel.

[D]

But there have been Indiana fans at every bar we've gone to. All the events has been. I think it's going to be more even than it's like obviously portrayed with it being an actual home game for Miami.

[C]

I think they're actually going to be shocked at how not home gamey this is going to feel for Indiana. They thought that they were going to fly into this town because no one.

[B]

On my plane and is a Miami fan. It's crazy.

[C]

And they're going to be hit in the mouth by not just the football team but by the crowd.

[D]

I don't think it's going to be a home game for Indiana, but I also don't think it's going to be like 70, 30 Miami.

[C]

All right. I just don't care what anybody thinks.

[B]

Well, that's not new.

[D]

I don't feel like you have the right attitude today. We need to put positive energy out.

[B]

That's not.

[C]

Dave Damaschek called me Finland. He called me Finland.

[B]

Why did he call you Finland?

[F]

That's how America regards the U right now. I'm not saying that. That's what I think. I am trying to personify the thoughts of most of football, America, in advance of this big game.

[C]

You know, we have five of these. We have five of these.

[F]

I think it's terrific, and I'm happy for you. But let's hearken back to.

[C]

All right, I don't care.

[B]

I don't care. Let's hearken. Let's hearken back to that first one.

[F]

Where you began in the orange against a team number one in the nation with the Heisman Trophy winner in tow, wearing red and white as they paid visit to Miami.

[C]

All right. I like hearkening so far, right?

[F]

And Bernie Kosar did it. Our guy kind of looks like Bernie Kosar. We have Jesus on our side, as we've already established. Fernando. Established.

[C]

We have 10,000 Jesus on our side. They're all going to be in the sands.

[F]

I gotta say, I've seen what the LeBatard social handles have been doing there, and quite frankly, I think it stacks up to sacrilegious. We already have said. I know that Carson Beck likes to go double crosses on the cheeks. It's a little obsequious in my opinion, but either way, what was it like? Dan, you were. Were you physically in attendance at the Orange bowl back in 1983? 19 on January 2, 1984.

[B]

How am I already tired of him talking. Get out of town. Fake break, camera, show, Bro, we only got 30 more minutes. Fake break, camera, show. They don't got the energy we got, bro. They don't want it how we want today. Biggest gaming, 20 years. Cookies, cookies. Always cookies. Some boys ain't work how we work. They feel how we feel. They ain't cry how we cry, gang. Hello.

[C]

Guess what?

[G]

We're doing the party. We're doing it at Bird Bowl.

[B]

Let's go.

[C]

Do what now?

[B]

How Cuban are you? Okay.

[H]

Is Taco and baby powder the same thing?

[B]

Yes, you doofus.

[I]

All right.

[E]

What kind of Cuban are you? Smart money's right here. Put your life saving.

[C]

Joaquin.

[B]

Stop being a whore. I love you, Miami. Billy corbin. Fake big m show. I'm not totally sure, but I think Zaz is guilty of cultural appropriation.

[E]

What?

[B]

I also think that's allowed just tonight for these 12 hours.

[H]

Happy Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

[B]

Zaslo says that tonight can be a forever night. But there's only one result that produces that is a forever night here. Right? Like it. It could also be a forever night for Indiana. Right?

[E]

No one will remember that.

[B]

I don't think you have that accurate. We've got our biases here. If anyone's just listening to the show, they don't understand how Miami is between a seven and a half point or an eight and a half point underdog. Does that line feel right to you, Lucy? Does it feel right to you? Given that Miami doesn't get blown out and I wouldn't give them a touchdown against anybody in the country. They were nine and a half point dog against Ohio State and we saw how that went.

[D]

I. I would say that it felt right originally in the aftermath of what Indiana did to Oregon because that was such a beat down and Indiana looks so dominant. Obviously the line has dropped. I think that's an appropriate reaction because like it is in Miami's home stadium, like this is. I think it's going to be closer than people realize. But I also understand that if you have just. Most people are just watching Indiana for football for the first time ever. The first time they saw Indiana play was against Alabama, including Indiana fans. And so you're most likely looking at that, those two results and saying this is the best football team I've ever seen in my life. Where Miami has had, you know, looked great in the playoffs, but they're not playing games like that. So I think it's just sort of an overreaction without the context of what Indiana has looked like this whole year where people are talking about them and something we sort of talked about up for the show of like the greatest team ever. If you watch them this season, they had a lot of close games that could have gone another way.

[B]

One of them you were at, I think at Iowa, where you're not.

[D]

We did not go to that one, but that one was their. Their closest. If my sweet, sweet Mark Konowski had not gotten hurt, Indiana would have a loss that hurt a lot. We played a lot better than them, but it's cool. I've gotten over it. It's fine.

[E]

How shook is Indiana going to be when the canes go up? 14. Nothing.

[B]

That's how you have this going. Indiana's president, Pamela Whitten has said what she said, not shocked or surprised by this season Come on, lady, like. Come on, lady, like. What are you. What are you doing? How can you, how can you say that? What, Lucy, what are you shrugging your shoulders about? You can't say that if you're the president of Indiana. You can't think it if you're the president of Indiana, that they're not.

[D]

She said she's not.

[B]

Not shocked or surprised that it was the goal. That the goal was to win the championship. And it makes me think the president of Indiana doesn't know anything about football.

[D]

They did make it to the playoffs last year and they only lost two games last season. So I don't actually think that's that ridiculous of a statement because that going into this season, the big narrative for Indiana was was it a fluke or was it, you know, truly something that.

[B]

They were 100 to 1 betting odds. 100 to 1?

[D]

Yeah, it's. It's one of those things where, like, Indiana is so historically bad at football that like, you need more than a one year sample size to buy in. And they've proven that. So I actually don't think that's that ridiculous of a statement. Give it. If she had said this last year, I'd be like, girl, you are out of your mind. That is insane. But the fact that they went to the playoff last year, they were a very good team last year. Yeah, I don't, I don't think it's ridiculous to say. I'm not shock that they took a step up.

[E]

It's more than a step up.

[F]

You know who else was a basketball school? The United States of America going to the Olympics in advance of the 1980 Winter Games. And then they vanquished the mighty Soviet Union. And then there was a little bit of hash to be settled on the other side of that. And they were called Finland. That's what Miami is. The basketball school that is Indiana University is now the feel good story of these United States. All of football America, save perhaps Florida Gator alum Zaz and some of his pals down here in south beach are rooting for the team wearing orange. Otherwise, you are Finland to the rest of football America. You are in the way of the final chapter of the feel good story that is the Indiana Hoosiers led by Fernando Mendoza and coach Sig from Pittsburgh Penn.

[E]

I like how Dave thinks. I have friends in South Beach.

[C]

What I.

[F]

That's my crew. That's how much the rest of football America knows between South south beach and, and. And all the rest of this. This vast.

[B]

Do you have any theories as to why it is that Mike has to leave today's show early for a game that's at 7:30. I'm going also tonight. Yeah, Lucy's going as well. And Mike's the only one that has to leave early.

[E]

Mike's leaving like five minutes?

[B]

Yes.

[F]

Why?

[C]

It's a Cane's thing. You just don't understand.

[E]

That's not like. That's not true.

[C]

You want to say Nefae, the.

[E]

I'm not doing this with you today, all right? Especially while I'm decked out in Cane's gear. Dan didn't recognize me when he got here this morning because I'm wearing a band.

[B]

I thought it was Luther Campbell. I thought he got here early.

[E]

He didn't recognize me. But I'm not doing this with you today, all right? Today it's all about the you. I'm all about the Canes. Am I going to wear this while I'm on the air at ESPN today at 3pm Eastern time? Maybe you'll find out. I should wait and see.

[B]

I don't think you will. I don't think you're brave enough to.

[E]

You don't think I got the guts?

[B]

No. You're saying it's all about the you. With Mike, it's always about the me, as you know. So he's leaving.

[E]

Well, I don't understand. The gates open at what, 11?

[C]

You chew on that line over the weekend, boss?

[B]

No, I just thought of it now. I. I was sober all weekend. Unlike you, who was polluting himself. All parts. All right. All over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were sober all over. Well, not anyone on south beach was. They had a free Calvin Harris concert. They should never do those for free. That. That should never be something that you do for free. Because there were just bodies stacked on top of bod. All of them holding each other by the hair, throwing up in the street.

[A]

We break into free events around here.

[C]

Yeah. We find a way.

[B]

You guys feel it all over town, correct? You feel that this thing is here? Because I was thinking the Panther thing was obviously. And is obviously enormous, but I don't know that it saturates both counties or all three counties the way that this does. Because it's so generational and it's. It also crosses across cultures because of what a God football is in this country.

[E]

I mean, this is why. This is why I said, like, and I'm not joking.

[A]

This is.

[E]

This has a chance to be a forever night. I'm so excited for my city and for my friends and for everyone. Who has waited so long for this? And you're right. Like, it could be a forever night no matter what. But I'll give a shit about Indiana.

[C]

All right.

[E]

It's a forever night for us here in Miami. So it's super exciting to wake up this morning knowing this could be one of the best night of your life. That's what you have now. It's a great day.

[B]

I do think it's bigger for Indiana because they've never done anything like this before. Right. Okay. I'm glad we talked about this.

[F]

I'd like to say I think it's a cagey move by Zas to do the Luther Campbell cosplay because if he stripped that away, he would represent what Miami is again to football. America and Lex Luthor. That's what you are to the vast majority of college football fans right now. You are the villain in the way of the nice heroes.

[E]

Do you think that that's somehow a put down? Miami wants to be the villain. Miami. This goes across all of our sports. Miami loves being the villain. See, now we're in our wheel. You just put us in our wheelhouse.

[F]

Dave, you think you the darkness is your friend.

[C]

Zaz has already exposed more gimmick you.

[E]

Were trying to make here that backfired on you.

[B]

Congratulations, Lucy. What do you have planned today? Because our people, we've got a ton of people in town, they're going to be working all day today. We're going to be doing a live watch party throughout the game tonight at 7:30pm what do you have planned, Lucy? And again, I want an answer to my question as to why it is Mike has to be out there and has to leave the show early while Zaslow and Lucy, who as far as I can tell are going to be doing work for media establishments over the next few hours, are leaving early.

[D]

In Mike's defense, my schedule right now has allotted three hours for me to get to the game. I'm very nervous about traffic. I'm very nervous about a certain individual deciding to make an appearance at this game. So we've. I don't know who it is. Not somebody.

[C]

Michael Urban.

[D]

Yes, it was him. That's exactly it. But. So we've allotted a lot of time in traffic. We're going to get there early. We're going to catch the vibe, and maybe I'll talk to you on the live show, but maybe not. I don't want to make any promises.

[F]

He must be a pretty big die hard for the canes because he not only is wearing orange he is orange got his ass.

[B]

So Damoshek is going to be on the livestream as the voice of Indiana. The lonely voice of Indiana.

[C]

There's going to be another Indiana voice. My dad.

[B]

Your dad's been invited now. Your dad. Your dad has accepted the invitation.

[C]

Yeah, because he's like, where should I go watch the game, son? Like, I don't know, bar. Like, he texted me the other day, he's like, hey, where can I buy, um, stuff? You know, do you think they'll have, um, stuff at Dick's? I'm like, yeah. And then he's like, they didn't have any Indiana stuff. Because he wants to buy both because, you know, like, he'll root for money.

[H]

He'll be happy.

[C]

Crystal ball. And the fact that his son obviously has like, basically one passion in life and it's the Miami Hurricanes. But he's a Mendoza guy. You'll find out together. Also, you guys watch them. I'm not dealing with those texts. Guy wants to try to talk ball to me. I'm like, shut up.

[A]

We could just have him call Mike throughout the game. It'll be fun.

[F]

It's gonna be nice. At night's end, you guys are all gonna say, like, it's cool to see the local Cuban guy holding the national championship giant joint. That's a nice consolation prize.

[I]

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[C]

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[B]

Don LeBatard. Mike Bryan's in there and he's the one with the baby. He's the one who's gotta, like, worry about what the future is. And Mike ryan bet on DraftKings. Cause Mike Ryan bet on us. This is the bet you're afraid of doubling down on? Putting up a billboard in Edmonton. Stugats.

[C]

I care more about Matthew Tkachuk than I do my daughter.

[B]

This is the Dan lebatar show with the Stugats. I have seen the old retro, um, jackets all over town because it's an unusually cold day around here. That is not a normal thing in South Florida. It is everywhere this weekend where the retro you. The. The Luther Campbell video. The Luther Campbell video jackets that 2 Live Crew was making videos with when they were celebrating the University of Miami and bringing Miami to the world. We've got Tony out in the field again today and he's going to be live tonight. This part's going to be crazy. At Dead Flamingo. That's going to be nuts over there as that's nuts under normal circumstances. That's nuts on the weekend around small sporting events. I can't even imagine what it's going to be tonight. So Tony, give us. Give us the report on what it is you're going to be doing out there tonight. It's basically, I feel like everybody who's going to be watching the livestream tonight is only going to be watching to see us crestfallen. I think the best result for the people viewing is us being sad because they're annoyed by the show we've been doing for the last week and the last 20 years.

[G]

Hello, Daniel. Jonathan, everybody. Who's there at the studio, glad to be reporting today from Calle Ocho. Yes, we were in front of Dead Flamingo and I don't know if you understand this, Dan. Yes, the people want to see everybody crestfallen. They want to see the show in tears. But everywhere you step today in Miami is a war zone. Every single step. Anybody that's walking around understands what we're under right now. Now, okay, we are under threat of the entire nation laughing at us. We were under threat of losing the biggest game in the tooth in the 2000s. Okay? There's nothing bigger than what we are right now. Mike Ryan, I'm glad to see you there. I'm excited to see you at the national championship. I will not be there, but you'll be boots on the ground and we're in the middle of a war, Dan, and you're laughing.

[B]

I think you need to stop with the war terminology given what's going on in the world.

[G]

I don't think you understand what we're. Keep it going. Yeah. What's going on in the world right now? Hard Rock again. Indiana versus Miami.

[A]

Dan.

[G]

That's what's going on in the world right now. I think you're a little bit too myopic.

[A]

Alright?

[G]

You got to zone in and figure out what's going on. Just about 25 miles north of you. Alright? You need to lock in right now. You're a little bit too happy for a game day. You need to be pissed, Dan. You know what? Because they want to come and take what we got, okay? They want to take. We got five national championships. Guess how many they have. Zero. Okay? We want a sixth. They want one. They're trying to take it from us. Dan, you're not ready for that, apparently. Well, Jonathan, get this guy, man.

[B]

I do appreciate that your energy level is better than it started because you came in real sedated. You came in real sleep for the biggest sedated.

[G]

Dan, it's not a sedated thing. It's a. It's a getting everybody focused thing, okay? It's a getting everybody in the same. In the same lockstep, okay? So, yes, we're going to be live at Dead flamingo tonight at 6pm the show starts around 7 and then the game starts at 7:30. We'll be rocking here just on an MMA nights. This place is absolutely packed and slammed tonight. There's probably going to be an overflow. We got things in the back here. Ghocha is going to be absolutely lit from there. I'm bringing my Caswella with me. Okay. To have it on deck. So then we could just go and party once. Once we. We take that ass.

[B]

Okay?

[E]

Oh, it's my gimmick.

[B]

You can use it today. He's borrowing it today. Okay. Thank you.

[G]

Finally you show up. Finally you show up. Zaz, where you been? I just asked you for three times to get this guy under control and you've been silent like a mouse.

[E]

Show started 20 minutes ago. You can't carry a segment on your own. We could throw it to you for two minutes. You're asking for my hand.

[G]

I. I can't. Because you're part of the team.

[E]

No, I am part of the team. The show started 20 minutes ago, okay? I gave you a platform.

[G]

So when I throw you an alley oop. When I throw you an alley oop, you slam it down on Dan's head.

[E]

How about you do this? How about you handle your business.

[G]

Buddy? I have been. I'm here 10 toes down in the streets right now.

[B]

Boots on the ground, okay?

[G]

You're sat up, you're sat up with. I don't even know what you look like today.

[B]

You know what, are you wearing a wire today?

[E]

You know what I look like?

[G]

You know what I look like, Unfortunately.

[B]

Okay, that's enough. Settle down, boys. It's too early for that. Pace yourself. The way, the way that Tony did at the beginning in the second by sounding sedate.

[I]

Let's go.

[B]

All right, let's go. All right, get to La Casa de la Trucos, please. I want a live. I want a live hit from La Casa de la Truco, the most famous and oldest costume shop in America.

[C]

You think they're going to be open this time?

[B]

Yes, 10am they open?

[C]

They are.

[G]

They told me 10 o'.

[C]

Clock.

[B]

I asked them early for Tony. Yes, they're going to be open. I want Tony in costume. Get over there. And he'll be tonight. He'll be at the Dead Flamingo. If you want to spend any time with Tony, the show will be out there. The show is going to be in a lot of different places tonight. Lucy, are you feeling confident in the WI fi? Because we're going to be getting reports from you and Mike and Zaz, WI fi permitting. But I don't have confidence in the WI fi. Put it put on the poll at Le Batard show. Do you ever have confidence in the WI fi if you're trying to use it at a stadium full of people?

[D]

No. That's why I said maybe, because I don't want to make any promises that I can't deliver. And I know that everyone's like, I wasn't going to tune into the live stream, but now that Lucy's there, I'm absolutely going to. But now they're not going to come because they've heard about the WI fi. I'm really sorry. I've just ruined this whole thing.

[A]

Everyone going to the game is terrified to reach out to us during it. My dad's going, I'm like, you're going to check in with us. He's like, I got an email that we can't. I'm like, what about just call us? I think the only thing we're going.

[B]

To get from people get that in.

[A]

The stadium is a phone call. I don't think they want anyone doing any kind of live hit to join us. So if we get people, it will be via phone only.

[B]

I think Lucy got in trouble one time. I don't know what stadium she was at, but all of a sudden one of our former employees was flying a drone and that was like, it's illegal NCAA airspace. And we got into all sorts of trouble because we were flying a drone around.

[D]

Well, yeah, that broke, like, federal law. That was different. We're not bringing a drone to the national championship game. Want to make that very.

[B]

How about a plane? I want to bring a plane to the national championship game. Can we bring a plane I'd like to use a plane and fly it around the state.

[A]

We'll work on it.

[D]

How do you use your money is so weird to me.

[B]

Our money. It's our money.

[C]

You sound like my family.

[B]

Let's fly. We're going to fly a plane. At some point this evening. I want to talk about some of the sports stuff though, and without getting too heavy in the analysis, I wanted to ask you guys for your opinion. Mario Cristobal said something that I agreed with. It's not just because I'm biased, though I can be accused of it. At the end of the Ole Miss game, Miami secondary was super depleted. Injured guys and Xavier Lucas had left the game for a really questionable targeting call. And Mario Cristobal is saying correctly, the idea that Lucas can't play the first half of this game, when that questionable call, which was clearly done without intent at all, it's like obviously not intent. And I don't know, I saw in the, in the Bills game that we're going letter of the law on rules and there's no reason to have arbiters if you're going to do it that way. If you're going to do everything by letter of the law, there's no reason to have human beings being applying subjective logic to something we all saw was a catch that turned into an interception. But Xavier Lucas lost the last half of that game. Miami secondary was a mess in the fourth quarter, like confused timeouts because they had a bunch of guys out there that, that aren't used to playing. And I think Mario Cristobal is right when he says it's wrong that Xavier Lucas has to sit out the first half of a championship game for something that was just a decision made in a moment. And the receiver, like, the receiver put his helmet down and it got him hit in the head.

[D]

The thing with targeting is like, if you have a hit like that, I think a 15 yard penalty is fine. But the way I feel like you have to look at it is like the way the government looks at. Like, is it art or is it porn? Like, you know when you see targeting and you're like, oh, that was, that was bad. That was a hit you shouldn't have made. That was worth a potential ejection. I think that hit was not worthy of that. I think that hit should not prohibit anyone from playing in the national championship game. So I think you just have to adjust how you look at it.

[E]

I hate the targeting rule. Like, I think Lucy's right. It's a 15 yard penalty and 15 yards, a very punitive penalty. And then it's. We're throwing them out not just for the rest of that game, but also the first half of the next game. I mean, if there's no way that you could say that he did it on purpose, maybe you think so? There's no way to know. And so you get the penalty and you essentially get a suspension. I hate it. It doesn't seem fair that.

[H]

Per Ian Rapoport, the Bills are moving on from head coach Sean McDermott after their loss in the divisional round to the Broncos.

[E]

Not surprising.

[C]

No, they had to.

[E]

Not surprising.

[B]

A lot of wins on that resume. He's probably the winningest coach over that period, I would think. Because you guys have seen the stats over the last six years, right? On the Bills. Over the last six years. The Bills are number one in points scored, number one in least points allowed. That makes them number one in point differential. But it's not just number one in point differential. They're plus 900 in point differential. No one else is plus 600.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

In point difference.

[C]

Crazy. More on that on Friday.

[B]

Well, they just did the breaking news thing.

[C]

I know.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

It's worth mentioning.

[B]

Nothing. Nothing.

[C]

Got me for 15 more minutes.

[B]

Don't threaten.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Why?

[C]

Why were Big Ten officials doing the Fiesta Bowl? Because that game was going to determine who is playing a Big Ten opponent. And if you want to put on your conspiracy hat, Big Ten, Wisconsin, Xavier Lucas tied up in litigation, suing. I didn't feel great about that. I didn't like seeing the Big Ten officials on the game that would directly impact the Big Ten teams title chances.

[E]

But what kind of officials are tonight?

[C]

I think it's the ones from the Texas A and M game.

[F]

Not big 10, big 12. I'm curious about where everybody feels Lucy's rooting interest should be as a rival, a Big Ten rival of the Indiana Hoosiers. The referees might be incented to see the conference do well. Although what we end up seeing usually is that they don't want that stink of you're biased in favor of your conference. So in fact, they make calls to disprove that they're biased. That is the way things end up going. But in this case, Lucy, are you on the side of with, you know, 98% of football America on the side of the feel good story that is Fernando Coach Sig in the Indiana Hoosiers?

[D]

I root for my conference, which I know is not something that people do. No. And I get that it's odd, but there is my team There is a direct incentive for Indiana to win. We get more money because Indiana wins. It's better for my conference. It makes my team look better.

[B]

Isn't that like Miami rooting for fsu?

[D]

No, but. No, because I went Indiana. We are in the same conference, but we're not rivals.

[G]

What do you get?

[F]

A piece of the action.

[C]

Don't.

[F]

Don't fall back. I'm some intellectual. It's good for the program ultimately, in the long term. What's your heart? What's your gut tell you?

[B]

My course this is.

[F]

They defeated you. You should want to see them get defeated now.

[D]

Because it makes me look better. And my team was the team that was the closest to beating them. Yeah, I think. And I mean, no one, no one's thinking like, about Iowa in this situation, and they shouldn't be, but there is a financial incentive for my favorite team.

[E]

But it doesn't make you better, though.

[D]

I mean, if I, Iowa, lost to a team that lost the national championship or a team that won the national championship, like, it's not that big of a deal. But, like, I also like Signetti. I think it's a cool story. There's a lot of things that go with it also. I just like you guys know, I didn't really like living in Miami and that sort of like, like poured out into a hatred of all Miami teams across the board.

[B]

The.

[D]

The Dolphins, the Marlins. Hell, the. The Miami club volleyball team. Don't like it.

[A]

You like the Cyclones, though, do you think?

[D]

I love them. I love them so much.

[C]

Do you remember your preseason predictions where you said we were going to be bad?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And I came out and said I was wrong.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I have no problem being bad. It doesn't happen to me that often.

[C]

Hating ass hater.

[G]

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[I]

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[G]

Wow, you're on the money with smeared off.

[I]

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[G]

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[E]

Yes.

[G]

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[B]

Fair enough.

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Wow.

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[H]

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[I]

Done.

[B]

Done. Lebatard, you owe me everything. You owe me everything.

[F]

You have added 10 years to my career.

[D]

Yes, I have.

[B]

This man has. You haven't.

[C]

That man.

[B]

Who the hell are you, you sts.

[F]

I am.

[E]

Who the.

[B]

You are.

[F]

Me. You're a rude young man.

[B]

You're a fool.

[H]

You're.

[B]

You're a fool.

[F]

I already called you a fool.

[B]

You can't call me idiot again.

[E]

It's a fool idiot twice.

[B]

You're an idiot for dismissing how much I've helped you. This is the D Ler show with the two gods. You guys are in agreement with me, Independent of the biases as it relates to what crystal ball was saying about Lucas. We're all in agreement, right, that the targeting penalty should be something that has a measurement that's by degrees, that it's not the same penalty for every single targeting, that there should be some sort of arbiter saying, well, that clearly wasn't intentional. That clear. Like, I don't. Didn't Denzel Perryman. Can you guys look this up for me, please? Did Denzel Perriman basically get suspended two games from the NFL on the Chargers simply for playing football way too violently? Like, just was. Was basically vontes perfect? Where in the.

[C]

You know how to Google that, Jeremy?

[B]

In the modern. In the modern age.

[F]

No, I think football, it is the vontes penalty. Right. It's a pattern of bad behavior, which is better than you have to miss the second half of the national championship. That's way too severe and sort of out of the context of what happens in the moment. Now you're impacting the whole team the next game. It's a bizarrely harsh penalty.

[E]

Why. Why wouldn't the first targeting penalty be, you know, the warning, and if you do it again, then you get thrown out? It's right.

[B]

No, I'm okay. I'm okay with the idea that it's got to be safety first. I don't know how much of a deterrent it actually is given how often it's happening accidentally.

[D]

Seem like, you know, when it was a malicious, nasty hit. You know it. You can see it, right? Yeah, yeah.

[C]

The porn theory is right.

[D]

Look, that's a great analogy. That's a great analogy.

[E]

I always know porn when I see.

[H]

Exactly.

[E]

I've never been confused.

[D]

So it's. When you see a hit that's so awful as Zaz can, can attest, you know, okay, yeah, that's worth a suspension. But there has to be like a layer of like, like you have to be sort of objective with it.

[B]

Put it on the poll. Is the targeting penalty like porn? You know it when you see it. I believe that you know it when you see it as the, the way that a Supreme Court justice described porn.

[E]

If I'm not mistaken, People versus Larry Flynn. Great movie.

[B]

The the details on tonight's game and Damoshek since you are a die hard Indiana rooter and you're rooting, I think it's more than 98%. I think outside of Miami, you're not going to have a whole lot of people rooting for Miami because Indiana is the more story and it's also the news story. Miami has advantages as it always does on the offensive and defensive line. Indiana's right tackle is a problem. Miami's going to get frustrated tonight by the number of back shoulder throws to Surrot that are then going to open up the deep throw to Surrott. When you're expecting the back shoulder.

[E]

You don't feel like young college football fans are looking at this game tonight being okay, Indiana's. Indiana, it's, it's the Midwest, you know, and Miami, that, that's cool. No, you don't think young college sports fans.

[F]

No, not with your QB who's two years removed from taking a class, which is a bad look saying that into a microphone. We all understand that that's what goes on in college football. It is a weird thing to announce.

[B]

He took three classes. You should celebrate him for his altruism. He chose education and learning when he was done with school. Unlike Deion Sanders who had a 0.0 GPA and was showing up to games in a limousine in a top hat his senior year.

[F]

Now listen, listen. I went to Indiana University when Bob Knight was the coach and he was much praised for all of his guys went to every class. I shared classes with some of those players and they weren't there for many, many weeks at a stretch. So that was a little overstated.

[C]

He's the goat.

[F]

I do think it would have been very funny for the follow up to be, well, Carson, what are those classes that you're taking? Because I refuse to believe he's like, I'm still taking some.

[B]

I asked you for matchups and game analysis and you started criticizing how, you.

[E]

Know what I say.

[F]

Dan, Anybody? I talked to Greg and Chris this morning about the game and I say it Again to you. Now, who gives a crap if you are on either side?

[C]

Who cares if he's going?

[F]

Who cares about what the point spread is if you are on the Hoosier side or the use side if you're getting involved? And do you think they're going to cover seven and a half? Who gives a crap? Don't get caught up in that job.

[G]

Good call.

[C]

Right?

[F]

Hometown cooking. Hometown cooking.

[B]

Get out. Dave can wait to do this live stream with you tonight. Would like to wait for the rest of my life, pass away and have the livestream be at my funeral. That involves Dave.

[A]

You and Dave tonight in there.

[B]

I know, I know. You guys are saddling me with Dave. As Zaslo goes to the game dressed like Luther Campbell. Mike leaves here early. Lucy leaves here as well and saddles me with Tamisha.

[E]

I still don't know why Mike's leaving early.

[C]

Seven and a half minutes.

[H]

I'll be there too.

[B]

You'll be here.

[C]

I promise you. I'm proud of you guys. You're pulling double duty on a holiday. This is crazy. The last couple of days of content I've really enjoyed. I'm gonna support this live stream. I guarantee you you will be hearing from Mike Ruiz on this live stream. You can take that to the bank.

[B]

Happy. It is a national holiday. Happy David Guetta day.

[F]

And I made a special record. So this record is in honor of George Floyd and I really hope we can see more unity and more peace when already things are so difficult. So shout out to his family.

[B]

Drop was about to go.

[C]

Yeah. It was Martin Luther King Jr. S I have a dream speech.

[B]

Is this cultural appropriation with Zaslow? I don't think he could be dressed like this, but I do think if there's a window for him to be dressed like this. 12 hours. These 12 hours are the 12 hours where it should be allowed.

[E]

Can't be dressed like what? Like awesome.

[C]

I don't see the problem. This is bandana you. Do you boo.

[E]

I'm sorry you didn't recognize me walked in.

[B]

Dan.

[E]

That's your fault.

[B]

You guys didn't give me the game analysis. I was looking for Lucy or Mike. Mike.

[C]

By the way, I haven't been asked.

[B]

Kane's inside targeting question.

[C]

I haven't. I haven't been asked my opinion on this game or how it's going to be.

[H]

Mike, what's your opinion?

[C]

How's it going to go?

[B]

We know how you think it's going to go. Kane's insight is live all the time. Burping out an Immense amount of content. If you are a Hurricane fan, Mike is one of the owners of Kaine's insight. So give us your best couple of minutes based on everything nonstop over the weekend. Kane's insight was belching out exhaust on this game.

[C]

Right. So here's how I think the game's going to go. I had a bold prediction that the line's going to fall down before the game. Right now, last numbers I saw, 78% of the betting public is on Indiana. Who cares about that? Let's talk X's and O's and Jerry's and Joe's. Miami outweighs that defensive line that doesn't have any depth. Go on by like 50 pounds. Miami runs a duo. Indiana runs stunts. Miami's gonna average at least four yards of rush. Miami matches up really well here. I think Miami's gonna go on 14 play drives. I think Miami's gonna lean on these guys. They present a matchup problem that they haven't really encountered. And I think we're gonna see a team wear out over the course of a game. Game. Think back to the Carson Beck touchdown run. Look at number 51 on the ground for seven seconds. That's what it looks like. And it's going to look like that again. I feel really good about this game. I feel better about this game than I felt the last game. Now I have tons of respect for Indiana. I think the quarterback is fantastic. I think they have three receivers. I think Charlie Becker's been unbelievable down this stretch. I love their offense. Full passing concepts out of RPOs. This is not like a sideline throw. They're running routes on RPOs and Mendoza is extremely accurate. I'm a little worried about Xavier Lucas not being there early on because you're going to need to be physical with these receivers, especially Surat because he's a ball winner. I think Indiana is going to know right away they're in for a fight. And I think Miami wins. Go Canes.

[B]

Jeremy, update a couple of the things that we were talking about over this hour, please.

[H]

Denzel Perriman was suspended for two games for repeated violations of playing rules intended to protect the health and safety of players. And I know it when I see it was used in 1964 in the United States Supreme Court. Justice Potter Stewart described the threshold test for obscenity in Jacob Ellis versus Ohio.

[C]

I'm really curious to see what Indiana's defensive line does because, well, they do.

[B]

The same things Mississippi. They do the same things Ole Miss does with the stunts and Ole Miss.

[C]

Has a more talented D line I.

[B]

Think and got to the quarterback more than I expected.

[C]

Their pass rush was good. So like when you're stunting running up a team that runs the type of tight splits that Miami does, it's a little bit more complicated, especially when that team is so beefy and big. So are they going to change up what they do? Are we going to break Indiana's tendencies or are they going to trust that and think that if they get a stop early or Miami has a procedural they can get them in like a third and long situation? Derek Carson Beck to be the guy I think styles make fights and this is a really good matchup and it's going to be a difficult one for Indiana.

[B]

I think Carson Beck is in his seventh season and I did think Lucy, you tell me if I have this wrong. The reason I was surprised at the amount that Ole Miss got to the quarterback is because I thought Carson Beck was allowed all season to play a game differently than most quarterbacks where he has a pocket, he has a clean pocket often. I'm almost always surprised when he doesn't have a clean pocket and I'm certainly surprised when someone comes straight up the middle and sacks him. I thought Carson Beck played obviously a great season outside of that Louisville game, but I also thought he had advantages most quarterbacks in the sport don't have. He had an inordinate amount of time to make his decisions.

[D]

That is one of the best offensive lines in the country. Like it's very clear that's a Mario Cristobal offensive line right there in front of you. I think that's a lot of what this game is going to come down to is can Indiana make Carson back uncomfortable? Because I agree with you, I thought Ole Miss did a better job than I expected them to do of putting Carson back in difficult situations. But that offensive line is so, so, so good and I genuinely think that is sort of like the key to this game for Miami because I don't think it's going to come down to Carson Beck. I think it's going to come down to how you run the ball.

[C]

Carson Beck is a very smart quarter. Aiden Fiser is a former quarterback and incredibly smart, knows exactly where to be at all times. The pre snap battle of minds between Carson Beck and Aiden Fisher will be really good. Also player to watch. A South Florida guy who knows all about Malachi. Tony, I'm very curious where d' Angelo Ponds lines up. It's one of the best corners in the nation for a 5 foot 9. Guy. Guy just does not miss tackles. Is he going to line up against Malachi Toney? If you're familiar with Malachi Tony's rise throughout South Florida spring. Those two guys know all about one another. Can't wait for this game. Go Canes.

[D]

Narratives.

[B]

Just go ahead and leave now. Then one minute left. Have. No. Just have advantage of the minute. No. Let that be his last words. I can't wait for this game. Go Canes. He's not going to do better than that. I still don't understand, though, why he has to leave early. Why the other people working the game like Lucy has carved out three separate hours to get to the stadium. Zaslow is going to go. At what time? At what time are you going?

[E]

I'm going to leave after the show.

[B]

Yeah, at a reasonable. But Mike has to leave right now so that he could start his tailgating. Right now.

[F]

Darth Vader's trying to get in Skywalker's ear.

[B]

You're the.

[F]

You're the evil empire.

[C]

Beat it.

[B]

You're the.

[C]

You're the. I will be beating it. The number 6.

[F]

Go K. We always have Fernando.

[B]

We didn't get an answer as to why he's leaving early. Thank you, master, for all of your good work. Bye, Master. He was the. He was the get back coach on Mike. He kept him away from killing Dave Damaschek. We hired him for the day. Human resources to protect us from having BL the carpet.

[C]

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