Local Hour: Out To Lunch (feat. Rusty Bueno)

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Local Hour: "Out To Lunch" (feat. Rusty Bueno)

Date: November 25, 2025

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Overview

Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the rest of the crew deliver a classic pre-Thanksgiving Local Hour: equal parts sports debate, self-aware laziness, and Miami-centric basketball optimism. This episode is defined by playful jabs, a parade of Thanksgiving sound bites, debates about the Miami Heat's new era, and relentless clowning over Zaslow’s questionable cold-weather radio attire.

Recurring Themes:

• The universal lack of work motivation during Thanksgiving week
• Miami Heat’s evolving roster and play style
• Sports media “culture wars”
• Celebration (and deconstruction) of Thanksgiving traditions, both culinary and broadcast
• Zaslow’s on-air persona under literal and figurative fire

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Thanksgiving Week: The Era of Corporate Time-Stealing Weasels

• Chris Cody calls out the collective lack of hustle in America this week, referencing the late Jim Mandich’s label for idle radio listeners (“corporate time stealing weasels”).
  [02:22]
  • “No one in America is trying at work this week.” – Chris Cody
• The crew admits to phoning it in, relying on recycled “Thanksgiving sound” from past broadcasts.

2. The Local Sports Scene: Heat & Panthers

• Panthers notch a dominant win (8-3), yet the Heat’s developments are the bigger story for the panel.
• The show marvels at the Heat’s new “athletic freak” in Khalil Ware, celebrating his unprecedented athleticism and the evolution of the team’s playstyle:
  [06:04]
  • “The Heat have a bona fide big man star... oh shit, that's athletic. That's more athletic than almost anything I'm watching.” – Chris Cody
• The crew agrees the Heat are on the verge of becoming not just competitive but fun and revolutionary in the NBA, with their blistering pace and “spaceship” lineup.

3. Thanksgiving Soundboard Parade

• The show dives deep into the lazy tradition of cycling through old Thanksgiving soundbites:
  • Jon Gruden discussing “hand turkey” ([03:02])
  • Booger McFarland’s food takes – “Boog don’t do turkey, baby” ([07:13])
  • Bill Belichick’s minimal effort on favorite sides ([07:30])
  • Les Miles on crafting the “perfect last bite” ([09:49])
• Regular debate ensues on how outdated and cringeworthy some terminology has become (“call girl,” “ladies of the night”), serving as a time capsule of radio past.

4. Heat Optimism vs. Skepticism: The Khalil Ware Era Begins

• Ware’s impact is hotly debated, with the underlying question: Can the Heat contend with their new pace, pieces, and personalities?
• Theoretical trades for Kevin Durant are bandied about, and the group debates fit, usage rates, and whether basketball knowledge across Biscayne is, in fact, superior to fan speculation. [16:26]
  • “We've doubted you. ...Jeremy, I see what you guys saw. I'm sorry.” – Tony (apologizing for doubting Heat management’s plan)
• Tyler Herro’s fit and the midrange game are dissected, with concern over his defense offset by his late-game scoring return.
• Heavy sports-nerd discourse on who actually deserves to be the No. 1 pick in a hypothetical redraft, with Zaslow taking a victory lap re: Ware over Stefan Castle.
  “You’re out to lunch!” becomes a segment-long refrain lobbed at skeptics. ([24:01])

5. The Ever-Revolving Miami Sports Culture Wars

• Mike Ryan launches into a righteous defense of the current Heat and the University of Miami, arguing Miami football “would beat up Notre Dame” if they played again.
  [39:30]
  • “Miami’s not getting outmatched when it comes to talent. Miami beat themselves in their two losses.”
• The segment quickly devolves into a trademark Le Batard Show crossfire of shouting, derails, and attempted moderation by Chris Cody.

6. Zaslow’s Frozen Fashion Fiasco

• Zaslow gets roasted for broadcasting in freezing Madison, Wisconsin, in a mere radio hoodie and no gloves—or as the crew describes it, a “cold adult toddler” look.
  • “You looked cold. You sounded cold. ...Can we marvel at this adult toddler?” – Chris Cody ([45:06])
  • “Who goes to Madison with no gloves?” – Mike Ryan ([44:15])
• Zaslow, ever-defensive, claims he looked “great” and “represented South Florida,” much to communal disbelief.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Thanksgiving & Laziness

• Chris Cody ([03:27]): “There’s no employee in America trying this week.”
• Mike Ryan ([03:12]): “Yesterday was a creative lift, pal.”

Heat Takes & Debate

• Chris Cody ([06:04]): “The Heat have a bona fide big man star… oh shit, that's athletic...”
• Mike Ryan ([16:05]): “Spaceship is a good word [for Khalil Ware].”
• Tony ([16:28]): “It's kind of like Tom Brady and Drew Bledsoe.” (on rust vs. returning stars)
• Jonathan Zaslow ([24:29]): “He hit you with the dead fish of ‘are you high, get a clue, you're out to lunch’ twice.” (summarizing his own debate braggadocio)

Broadcast & Personal Insults

• Mike Ryan ([43:01]): “He looks like Gino Fuentes…” (on Zaslow’s appearance)
• Chris Cody ([45:06]): “Can we marvel at this adult toddler?”
• Jonathan Zaslow ([43:56]): “You were cold. You sounded cold.”
• Mike Ryan ([44:52]): “You know, you could put another jacket on on top of the sweater, right?”

Sports Media Satire & Self-Parody

• Jonathan Zaslow ([24:41]): "Can we just sit back and appreciate that we were headed someplace inform and substantial when it came to Heat discussion? And then Dan invoked Kevin Durant and it all went off the rails."
• Chris Cody ([41:04]): “I also have to keep Tony off of Zaslow because Tony is disgusted by the way that Zaslow represented ESPN in Madison.”

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Timestamps for Core Segments

• 02:22 – 04:00: Thanksgiving work ethic and radio laziness exposed.
• 06:04 – 12:00: Panthers’ big win and the Heat’s “athletic freak” era led by Khalil Ware.
• 07:13 – 09:49: Thanksgiving sound montage – Jon Gruden, Booger McFarland, Bill Belichick, Reese Davis, Daniel Snyder, Les Miles.
• 12:22 – 17:04: “Culture war” over Heat management, trades, and the potential for a fast-paced, new-look team.
• 23:00 – 25:00: Heated debate over NBA redraft, rookie rankings, Zaslow’s “out to lunch” mantra.
• 31:09 – 32:05: The Heat’s trade predicament – Rozier, Adam Silver, and team construction debates.
• 39:30 – 40:51: Miami football’s matchups revisited and defended.
• 43:01 – 45:00: Zaslow’s Wisconsin attire scandal.
• 45:06 – 46:15: Final deconstruction of cold-weather broadcasting and radio professionalism.

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Final Thoughts & Overall Tone

This episode is a riotous, self-aware homage to both Thanksgiving sloth and Miami sports hope. While the discussion swerves between NBA deep dives, radio industry inside jokes, and parade-of-ego showdowns, it remains light, teasing, and quintessentially Le Batard—right down to the cheerful chaos and the repeated plea (in vain) for someone, somewhere, to just settle down.

If you didn’t hear the episode, just imagine the funniest, most distracted sports Thanksgiving table you could find—full of Miami Heat arguments, mockery about hoodie choices, and annual rituals stretched well past their “best by” date.

One-Sentence Summary:
On Thanksgiving week, nobody’s really working—and for this show, that’s just the way it should be.

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Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

Smirnoff.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's your favorite game day drink. What's your favorite game day food?

[Chris Cody]

Smirnoff.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, here's the deal. Game day is everything. The noise, the rituals, the passion, the dip, the wings, the dip again.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Smirnoff.

[Dan Le Batard]

Smirnoff belongs in that mix. Because if you're tailgating or hosting or just sitting there checking your fantasy lineup every 30 seconds, you need Smirnoff. Otherwise, it's not a real game day. They've been doing it since 1864, which is. I don't even want to do the math. It's a long time. It's like when Greg Cody was born. They're award winning, they make cocktails super easy, and they're all about bringing fans together. So, yeah, we do game days. That's their thing. And if you're over 21, you. You should, too. Why, Chris Smirnoff. Grab a bottle of Smirnoff at your local retailer and head to smirnoff.com to find recipes of delicious cocktails perfect for game day.

[Chris Cody]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cody]

The beloved Jim Mandich once described certain listeners during a different radio age. He would say of people who listened to the show during the working hours that they were corporate time stealing weasels. And this week, I'm the executive of a corporation, and I've got on my hands an assortment of employees who are corporate time stealing weasels. Because no one's trying this week. No one in America is trying at work this week. And Chris Cody says to me, let's just do a Thanksgiving show. I'll play Thanksgiving sounds from our past.

[Mike Ryan]

Ooh. Jon Gruden, Hand turkey.

[Chris Cody]

I see the hand turkey. Random Thanksgiving. You want to do the turducken? You want to do. No, I've got this right. There's no employee in America trying this week.

[Mike Ryan]

Correct. I mean, I felt like yesterday was a creative lift, pal.

[Dan Le Batard]

I tried really hard.

[Tony]

I mean, I typed Thanksgiving into my computer and I saw what came up.

[Chris Cody]

What'd you find? Can you do better than them? Can you do better than them with your lazy Thanksgiving shirt? As Mike's talking about what a heavy.

[Tony]

Lift yesterday was, I mean, Mike said a great one. Jon Gruden, talking about hand turkey.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

That was your cue. Don't say off the air.

[Chris Cody]

It's very important that I start at the rear first.

[Mike Ryan]

This tail feather gives me speed and precision. And it's these mid feathers you gotta.

[Chris Cody]

Be careful with as you go around your super bowl ring, you know?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

But these middle feathers are the brain of the outfit.

[Chris Cody]

And his front feather that points the.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Direction that this hand turkey goes.

[Mike Ryan]

Do we forgive him? I forgive him. I forgive him. Jameis has this thing, too, and I know now that Jeremy's back in, he's just so.

[Chris Cody]

It's gonna be likable. You're just gonna do it.

[Mike Ryan]

This guy seems to have learned the lessons.

[Tony]

It is Thanksgiving.

[Mike Ryan]

I love him, too. You learned? I'm ready for you to come back for the job.

[Chris Cody]

Really? You guys are doing this with blood?

[Mike Ryan]

We decided it with Mike Tyson.

[Dan Le Batard]

He learned from the first one, the second one, the third one.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I did my first ever radio show 21 years ago. Thanksgiving. First ever. No experience. Throw me on the air.

[Chris Cody]

Nobody's listening on Thanksgiving.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

We needed someone to do like seven ninety a ticket.

[Chris Cody]

You're working a holiday. So $9 an hour.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I did like five straight hours on Thanksgiving.

[Mike Ryan]

I had so many trembling voice sports flashes for me during the holiday shift.

[Chris Cody]

At 790 you were doing. Zasla was doing a five hour solo show.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, no, no. Me and Zach Krantz Head head coach.

[Mike Ryan]

Jack Martin says David Booth should be good to go. Puck drop at the NCRC is at 7:30.

[Chris Cody]

Zaslow, you worked five straight hours on Thanksgiving Day, no holiday. Yep. How much were you making an hour?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, I was on salary, but my salary was so pathetic. You want it? You want to guess what my my first year salary was?

[Mike Ryan]

$7 an hour.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Let's remember Stu Gotz was the one who, you know, he paid me 28,000. That's exactly right.

[Mike Ryan]

What?

[Tony]

Wow.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. How'd you know that? I just guessed.

[Chris Cody]

As an on air host.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, no, I wasn't an on air host.

[Mike Ryan]

No, he was just a hand. Yeah, he was like a producer.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

28,000.

[Mike Ryan]

Occasional flash anchor and then occasional weekend talent. Yeah, that's a going rate around like 2006 for Jonathan Zaslow.

[Tony]

I feel like that's what I started at ESPN Facts.

[Mike Ryan]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the ST podcast.

[Chris Cody]

So the two time defending champion Panthers win eight to three on the road. And it's the second story tonight because the team in sports locally that has been a tribute to organizational stability in this market over this century has announced that they've got that feeling that was around the initial Hasan White side where. Oh, the Heat have a freak too now. The Heat have an athletic freak now too, who is very young and ridiculously athletic. And it's like watching easier alley oops to Bam when he's around the basket. Because the Heat have a bona fide big man star in that sport where you're like, oh shit, that's athletic. That's more athletic than almost anything I'm watching. To have both of those things happen on the same night, to have Mike Ryan still yelling and howling at the sky at anything University of Miami related, and to have Chris Cody wander in here and say, do you want Booger McFarland talking about Thanksgiving? And I'm like, yeah, I do actually.

[Mike Ryan]

Hey, happy Thanksgiving, buddy. I'm going home to Tampa. I'm looking for some dressing and some ham because Boog don't do turkey, baby.

[Chris Cody]

What else do you have from your lazy Thanksgiving?

[Mike Ryan]

Lazy? That's not lazy. Okay? He's doing a tough job. Run a search. Come on, man.

[Tony]

I have Bill Belichick talking about his favorite side dishes.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Other than football, what's your favorite Thanksgiving side dish?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, well, I mean, pretty much everything. There's not much food that I don't like, so could we start with dessert, but gotta leave room for everything else. So. Yeah, it's great. It's a great holiday. It's a great holiday. Football, family, and football. I mean, football, family, and food. So, yeah, sign me up.

[Tony]

He forgot the family part.

[Chris Cody]

Football. Family and football. Yeah, football. He meant to say football. And football. And football. What else do you have from your Thanksgiving file of lazy work because you, like everyone else in America, isn't actually working this week.

[Tony]

I have Reese Davis reading a looks like submission for us.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Greg Williams looks like your divorced uncle who brings a call girl to Thanksgiving.

[Chris Cody]

I don't think we're calling them of a time, Dan.

[Mike Ryan]

Of a time. Relax. Reese Davis must really regret that.

[Chris Cody]

I don't. I don't know how we got any of that sound. That all seems like ESPN sound. None of that sound seems like it's ours. We got that in the negotiations. We got that as part of our library. What else do you have from our majestic Thanksgiving file?

[Tony]

I have a former commander's owner, Daniel Snyder, wishing everyone a happy Thanksgiving.

[Mike Ryan]

First off, Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. Okay. All right. So that's sad. It's a little lazy. Okay. I admit I was really worried with, like, the setup and the former team name. I'm like, Chris, Chris, Chris.

[Tony]

You heard the silence.

[Mike Ryan]

He going.

[Dan Le Batard]

Where's he going?

[Tony]

Second to find commander.

[Mike Ryan]

It's like Wilt Chamberlain yesterday.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's like it's in there somewhere. Somebody get me the right name.

[Tony]

I have Les Miles talking about favorite part of things. We can get to that later.

[Mike Ryan]

Can't tell the story of Thanksgiving without them. And I don't mean the commanders.

[Chris Cody]

Call girl, like, we're not doing that.

[Mike Ryan]

It's Greg Williams.

[Tony]

If I made a list of people, I would at least would want to say that.

[Chris Cody]

Look, I think my father calls them ladies of the night or I think he graduated at his tawdriest to streetwalker. But call girl like that seems like that was out of style. I don't. Call girl was, like, two generations ago on. That's not okay to say that anymore. That's not what we're calling. That's not what we're calling ladies of the night.

[Mike Ryan]

I think it's the most respectful way. Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Do you have less miles there talking about Thanksgiving? I am the easiest man to please when it comes to food. I have to be honest. I think it's a. I think it's definitely the turkey with a warm gravy. Maybe it's the last spoon or fork of food on the plate, you know, that has A little bit of salt and pepper and maybe a little bit of the turkey and gravy and some of the stuffing that would be there. And maybe just a smidgen of that cranberry stuff. Right? Not like a big. Not kind of overwhelmed the last bite, but that right there. Oh, my goodness. Right. That last bite's worth a lot of. I might add that the turkey sandwich with mayonnaise, mustard, onions and a little salad, a little. Little lettuce. Kind of makes. Makes for good eating later too, doesn't it?

[Mike Ryan]

Now, while he makes a tremendous point. Not ready to forgive him.

[Chris Cody]

I was just about to forgive him. I was about. Are we ready for champion Les Miles to get back in the LSU hunt? Because that one's interesting. I want to get to Lane Kiffin later in the show, but let's. Let's bypass the Panthers for a moment and just celebrate what seems to be a m he team that's going to be relevant all year. They've won five straight now. You might want to pay attention. Detroit 113 straight. Like they've lost twice and Detroit is really good. But Miami is going to try with style of play with I dare say, revolutionary style of play in terms of what they're trying to do pace wise.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, it is because they are on pace right now to be. To set an NBA record for fewest ball screens in league history.

[Mike Ryan]

Can you settle a little mystery that I've had with you since yesterday? You texted me yesterday, you have a good team. And then 20 minutes later I didn't respond to it. You're like, oh, I'm sorry, that text wasn't for you. I was like, there's no way this guy's talking about the Cyclones. Who is that for? Someone with the Heat because they have a good team.

[Chris Cody]

It was meant for Mickey Harrison.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Chris Cody]

And Mike Ryan and Mickey Harrison are like.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, so you confuse sports owners. I get it.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, your Cyclones. Well, your Cyclones also owner friends, your Cyclones representative. Standard bearers in the market. More first places than not during their tenure of.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, you know, we don't need to get into it. Been a bit of a dry spell for the. For the Cyclones, but we are the top seed with two weeks left to go in the season. But damn, we have a Bueno predicament. Yeah.

[Tony]

Bueno's been out all year. He just came back and we're starting playoffs now. We've been cooking without him all year.

[Mike Ryan]

But we have to work him back into the rotation. And a lot of Fronton rust on Bueno last game now the league has come down and made a ruling. Robin's been such a great replacement for us. They said Robin gets half of the playoff matches and Bueno gets half the playoff matches. Which is great if Bueno is in form. But if we're dealing with Rusty Bueno, Dan, we have a good thing going here. It's kind of like Tom Brady and Drew Bledsoe.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I was gonna say it's kind of like Tyler Herro, except we learned Tyler Herro is still awesome and the heater could be better with him.

[Mike Ryan]

We learned nothing about Tyler Hero.

[Dan Le Batard]

He fits.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

We learned.

[Mike Ryan]

How can you say that? That was like the worst offensive performance of the season. And you.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, how about Simone Fontechio make a shot?

[Dan Le Batard]

They were 5 of 27 from 3. Like, it had nothing to do with Tyler Hero.

[Mike Ryan]

No Tyler Hero. I looked at the box score. I didn't watch the game, but Tyler Hero seems to judge as well. He seemed to have had a good game, but like. But I also looked at the box score and I'm like, wow, Tyler Herro really fits in nicely. He helped the team win. And then I see box score, Norm Powell, zero minutes. I'm like, that's the one.

[Chris Cody]

Well, but if. If I can stop you for just a moment because it was fun. It was fun going between championship excellence on my telev divisions because I wasn't watching two games at once. I was toggling between them. And so I'm watching the Panthers throttle what a team, Throttle Nashville, score eight goals against Nashville. And I'm watching that. But I'm also watching what has been the standard bearer for sports in this market over 25 years. Took the city away from the Dolphins. I'm watching this science lab across the street over here that we all know to be like a bit of a military school for. We will Shar and the 10 best players into something and try and change the sport. Once we get out from what this Jimmy thing was, what you saw from Tyler Herro last night that is most encouraging is the game's going to be made very easy for him this way. If you're going to open up the floor that way and have him just be super efficient mid range when he's. When he's just doing. He's killing you in the mid range now. They missed a million shots last night like that. That Dallas, they were playing the third time in four nights. Dallas stinks.

[Tony]

It was like 00, like midway through the first quarter.

[Chris Cody]

D stinks. Wasn't an eight, like eight minutes with eight minutes.

[Mike Ryan]

It was zero.

[Tony]

Zero teams started like, over six. Heat were over like three.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I think it was one for 14 combined at one point.

[Chris Cody]

Let's not get lost in the minutiae of the following. Okay, yes, you could have lost last night. Clay could have taken the three or not passed it up. Or you could have lost. You should have lost. You threw the game away at the end and Dallas just missed those. Those shots at the end and it would have been a really bad loss at home. But macro on what we're talking about here, they're going after this season with a pace that doesn't have a precedent, that numerically you will see the time spent in the half court when they run on you. They will wear you down in the fourth quarter. And they have at the center of it in Khalil Ware what appears to be a bit of an extraterrestrial. Like, this is Hassan Whiteside. If you can sharpen it in the new age of like, oh, shit, that's going to block, that's going to wipe glass, that's going to. That's going to make threes. That's going a dunk on you with easy lobs.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Isn't it also important to remember, though, like, when we were seeing these kind of numbers from Hassan Whiteside, a Hassan wasn't shooting threes. Keller is doing that. But also when Hassan got to the Heat, he was like 26 years old.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And Kello wears what, 20. So that's probably a major.

[Chris Cody]

Well, this is a bit of a spaceship is what I'm saying, because I thought hassan was almost 29. I thought.

[Mike Ryan]

But spaceship is a good word.

[Tony]

Where's 21?

[Mike Ryan]

When you consider they're both a bit dubbed to be astronauts. Let's just put that kindly.

[Chris Cody]

Okay.

[Mike Ryan]

But so far, don't forget, like, you've had some of that, like, SPO's called Ware out publicly. Like, this guy needs to learn how to be a pro.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And look how he's responded.

[Mike Ryan]

So far, so good.

[Tony]

I'll do it. I'll do it. No one else wants to do it. I'm going to look back at Riley, Pat, Jeremy. I'm sorry.

[Mike Ryan]

Why are you saying so to Jeremy?

[Dan Le Batard]

We've doubted you.

[Tony]

He's guys for a couple years. We wanted to get rid of. We wanted Kevin Durant. Get rid of where? Get Kevin Durant. Like, Jeremy, I see what you guys saw. I'm sorry.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you.

[Mike Ryan]

Kevin Durant would look nice in this offense. I know he's dealing with something right now. You don't think so for who I'll give him Jovic.

[Chris Cody]

No, it would smother the usage rate like it would. Look, I'm kind of startled to see this part of it. Right. Because I've told you before, we can concede. Right?

[Mike Ryan]

Hold on, hold on. Kevin Durant would smother the usage rate, but Tyler Herro isn't.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's why I said I'll give him Jovic.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm sorry. I'd much rather have Kevin Durant have Tyler Herro's usage rate in this offense than Tyler Hero.

[Chris Cody]

I. Look, we can discuss this again if you want, because I know that you would have liked to play an all or nothing season on whatever is left of Kevin Durant, which might be a push in Houston. That makes them a good deal better because that's an unstoppable player.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow.

[Mike Ryan]

Thank you for opening that door over there. It was going so well for the pro Heat guys, but. Oh, I seized on this one.

[Chris Cody]

But wait a minute. I want to stop you for a second. I do want to stop you for a second because can we trust that the people across the street over here, that they know a little bit more about the science of what they're doing than we do?

[Mike Ryan]

No, no, no. They went two seasons wasting a window and we, we pounded tables for them to do something. They did something, and now look at them. No, they don't get it.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, go.

[Mike Ryan]

You know, more than the last two seasons. Stop it. No, I'm glad that they righted the ship, it would appear. And they're gonna be a feisty little four seed. That's cool. They need to continue adding.

[Chris Cody]

All right.

[Mike Ryan]

That's what this team is.

[Chris Cody]

Just settle down. You haven't watched the game.

[Mike Ryan]

You settle down. You can't even get settled down.

[Chris Cody]

You can't even get the chance they.

[Mike Ryan]

Lose two straigh gonna play in.

[Chris Cody]

Listen.

[Mike Ryan]

Stop it. Stop it. Stop with his victory parade. Can't even watch that games. Stop with his victory parade. Like you guys accomplished something. Listen, you're two games away from being the 10 seed going to Chicago again.

[Chris Cody]

Stop it. Yes, well, Milwaukee's not even the 10 seed right now. Boston's at the bottom of the conference. It's 15 games.

[Mike Ryan]

You guys sound like losers, like did something.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Listen, you don't even watch the game.

[Chris Cody]

I'll watch the channel.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, you won't.

[Chris Cody]

You don't know how to get it.

[Mike Ryan]

Chris explained to me, like, what I have to do. Hey, I'm a proud draftkings partner. I seem to be the only one.

[Tony]

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

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[Tony]

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

Don LeBatard all these high paid analysts.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't want to mention names. Tnt, espn, you know.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh yeah, they, they are dead.

[Chris Cody]

They cannot, they're not going to make it.

[Mike Ryan]

You know, even if they win in, if they lose in Miami, I need.

[Chris Cody]

To calm you down.

[Mike Ryan]

I need to calm down. That's right. If they lose in Miami, they don't get a chance in Boston or they are going to have their ass. You know what? In Boston you Know stugats. They were wrong.

[Chris Cody]

Are they going to lose their job?

[Mike Ryan]

No.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Are they going to get a cutting page? No.

[Mike Ryan]

What are they going to do?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Keep predicting.

[Chris Cody]

What is the obvious.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

They are going to say, oh, the Nuggets are going to win. Oh, Denver, the altitude.

[Mike Ryan]

And you know what?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

The Heat are going to win it all. This is the Dan lebatar show with the stugats.

[Chris Cody]

You do not and cannot.

[Tony]

I have a block on my screen top right.

[Chris Cody]

Find the heat. We are asking you if you're watching these things because this part I think is going to be annoying to Tony and Jeremy if I'm feeling what they're feeling correctly. Jeremy is someone who loves the heat and Tony is someone who loves basketball. Just basketball. The. The art of basketball. To have you come over and not even be able to find the heat on a channel so you don't know the enthusiasm that Khalil Ware is actually prod for the fan base because he.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Was like the leader last night.

[Mike Ryan]

Let me be clear. I know how to find it. I just don't want to support that regional network. But Chris is like, oh, you. You can support Bezos. I'm like, that's way better. He seems nice.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He was like the leader last night. Killer. He was barking at dudes. He's swatting shots into fifth row. I mean, would I like him to swallow the shot like Alonzo used to do and not put in the fifth row? Fine. But it still gets that emotion out of Calawara and that's what I like.

[Mike Ryan]

To see right there.

[Tony]

I think it's time we redraft 2024.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, Dan. Dan. Keller Ware should have been the number one overall pick in last year's round.

[Mike Ryan]

I have to push Bash. I might have to push back.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You don't have to push back.

[Mike Ryan]

I might have to.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm saving the time from looking stupid. Okay. Because if you have a seven footer who hits threes and is 20 and 18, that guy is not the number.

[Mike Ryan]

One overall rookie of the year from that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

From that draft class.

[Mike Ryan]

I might take the rookie of the year from that draft class.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That draft class is hot.

[Tony]

I don't know that guy.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Garbage.

[Mike Ryan]

Stefan Castle won the rookie of the year. He's really good. He'd probably go number one.

[Tony]

I know what team he plays on.

[Mike Ryan]

But tell Mike that sounds like a 2K.

[Dan Le Batard]

He plays for the Spurs.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Zachary. Zachary Ricache was number one. Alex Sar was number two.

[Mike Ryan]

These are not real names.

[Tony]

You're making up names.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You're telling me Kella Ware. You Do a retraft. He's not the number one.

[Chris Cody]

He will go two.

[Mike Ryan]

He will go two. He would go number one based on names that I've heard of before. That seems to be a really bad draft class.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

A seven footer story. Historically bad. A seven footer who gives you 20 and 18 is going number one over six foot six. Stephen Castle. Tony, get a clue, buddy.

[Dan Le Batard]

If he was good, he would have.

[Mike Ryan]

Won rookie of the year in Zaza's last year.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're out to launch in Zaza's defense. Win share leader and value over replacement player amongst the careers of that draft class thus far. Kalawe leads in both.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Keller Ware is so much more valuable than Stefan Castle will be. You have to launch.

[Chris Cody]

All right, so I've got.

[Mike Ryan]

Hey, lunch is here, buddy. Right here. Look at me, Tony, right here. Mediterranean. Meet you later.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Sounding like a sucker.

[Dan Le Batard]

I do that to you.

[Mike Ryan]

You don't do that to me. We get some of that to bully later, Tony. Dan, he called me a sucker. He never calls you sucker. I called him a sucker.

[Chris Cody]

Tony. Played yourself, Tony, I don't know what's happening here, but this is what's just happened, okay? And it has been a crash, crash course in Zaslow because he looked at you and hit you in the face with the dead fish of. Are you high? Get a clue. You're out to lunch twice. And then you played yourself. I just saw him dance on your grave. He tried to with the finest, the finest of the Zaslow moves.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, what does it do? What Adidas he's got on there. You want those A Payless?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Whatever, man. Don't get upset that I nailed you. I nailed you with all.

[Mike Ryan]

How do you figure? Stefan Castle.

[Dan Le Batard]

Six.

[Mike Ryan]

Six. Great on defense. Great score.

[Tony]

What is this, height?

[Mike Ryan]

Come on, what are we doing?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Because a seven footer is so much valuable.

[Mike Ryan]

Can we just sit back and appreciate that we were headed someplace inform and substantial when it came to Heat discussion? And then Dan invoked Kevin Durant and it all went off the rails.

[Chris Cody]

Okay?

[Mike Ryan]

You took the bait, letting me seize on this Heat culture war.

[Chris Cody]

You took the bait because you want to dampen what's happening around the Heat and you shouldn't. And the Panthers have set the new standard in town, but the Heat have been the standard in this town. And what they've managed to do in the post Jimmy Butler, Kevin Durant era of whatever basketball becomes is they'd like to have a sleeker model of thing. And it can be that if it's Tyler Herro and Norman Powell and it's Bam Adebayo and it's Khalil Ware. Wait, are those four guys gonna figure it out? Because those four's a lot like that. That seems to be a four. That would be really athletic and fast. And if they're gonna play the pace at that, then you add pieces at the deadline and then they're playing for the top of the conference. Because Detroit, what have you ever won?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's right. Toronto's number two. Hell out of here.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm with you on Toronto. I'm with you on Toronto. I think they're a bit of a, of a front runner right now.

[Chris Cody]

I think Detroit is a real team though. That team's good though, second in the East. That, I mean, Ingram is really good for them. He's another one of these spaceships. Like he's been underrated because New Orleans swallowed all the things he could have been. And like that's a really good player and Scotty Barnes is your best player and he's your second best player. That's a really good two.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're also a bit of a matchup problem for the Heat and that the Heat's primary, we'll say a players are guards and big men. Their wings are sort of the question of how much they'll be able to step up, whether that's Andrew Wiggins, whether that's Nico Jovic, Even Jaime Hawkins Jr. Coming off the bench and he's not quite the size of those guys in Toronto. That's a matchup problem defensively.

[Mike Ryan]

But he's been great.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's been great. And last night he was, he was kind of sloppy off the bench. Like their whole team struggled. They were five of 27 from three. And the guy who ultimately saved them offensively at the end and throughout the game booing them was Tyler Herro coming off an injury, having not played in 17 games to have that type of timing on. On the mid range game that Dan spoke about floaters, he started over four. He then hit 12 of his next 14 shots, including the game winner.

[Mike Ryan]

If you look across the east too, like all the bigs have interesting situations with them. The Heat have two great defensive bigs that if that can kind of propel them and the guards and the Wings can. Can figure it out. Like that's a top of the conference.

[Dan Le Batard]

Kind of front line Khalil, where the most encouraging part isn't just the rebound numbers. Yes, 16 rebounds per game since the text messages back and forth with you. Donna's Haslam.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's right. That Knicks game man, Ben Still Looks.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stupid as hell, but it's also the way he's accumulating blocks. At the beginning of his career last year and even the beginning of this season, he was chasing blocks just like Hassan Whiteside. Just those same things that we learned and defensively they were like, he needs to learn to be a part of, of a team defensively. Last night he led the Heat in minutes. When you, when you want to know how the Heat feel about someone, when you want to know how Eric Spoelstra feels about someone, it's ultimately just the minutes they play.

[Tony]

And for him to probably most coaches.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not just Tyler Hero, not just bam at a bio, but to have him playing 34 minutes last night anchoring that defense and not chasing shot blots, it ultimately shows you the type of evolution.

[Tony]

It'S a real deep take of. When a coach plays the guy a lot that means he likes him.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a, it's a different conversation. You can love a prospect a project and not play them too many minutes to overexpose them. To have a 21 year old kid who at the beginning of the year you were sitting for stretches now anchoring your team and having games like this one on a night where no one was really doing anything.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And you saw there was cheating last night too by the referees where they called that one Alley Oopa goaltender, that's, that he caught from pal. That's cheating.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, but if I can just get you guys to look at the last 20 years through the prism of what the expectations are for this franchise. The starting point now on the conversation because the conference is open. The starting point on the conversation is oh, the Heat are going to be interesting again. They're going to make us wonder, oh, what do you trade in the defensive rating when Tyler Herro's getting you those mid range buckets. But you're trading it on defense cuz he's a liability there. We know this like, like if they.

[Tony]

Had this exact same record right now playing the same way they played last year, I don't think we'd be this excited. The big news to me is the style. They're the fastest team in the league all of a sudden.

[Chris Cody]

Well, they're going to be interesting is my point. That it, it. They'll go five for 27 every once in a while in threes and they'll, they won't score 140, they'll score 104. Third game in four nights. I'm more interested in the fact they're going to make the regular season interesting. Because where's the soap opera of okay, do Hero and Norm Powell fit? Oh, whose team is it? Is Khalil Ware grow up now. You start investing in like the personalities. And is this going to be a team I love because they're actually a team? Or are they going to fight over the silly shit? Like, is Bam going to be the All Star?

[Tony]

Bam.

[Dan Le Batard]

The fourth.

[Chris Cody]

But that's the thing, right? Like, that's where you get excited. And yet still offensive rated and defensive rating. Toronto's better.

[Mike Ryan]

Bad box score last night for Bam, but he's.

[Tony]

If it's your fourth guy, you can live with that.

[Chris Cody]

Toronto's better. Like, it's not just that Detroit's better. Toronto is also better. And that's okay because those two teams don't scare you. You like those, those organizations don't scare you because they're going to revolutionize how the Wings play and they're going to have something that's. Yeah, what that Khalil. Where is he going to grow into a star? Like we've been saying, the next player has to be better. The next player that Bam and Tyler play with has to be better than them. What if it's Khalil?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Where I would say that this should have been number one overall pick in last year's draft is going to be.

[Mike Ryan]

A star well before the season. If I gave you high end expectations and if I tell you Miami's got to reshape the way that they play and they're going to hit a home run with the Powell acquisition, then you're really psyched about what this team could do at the deadline. But the Terry Rozier thing is looming over this franchise and it's actually like a huge.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

But is it looming over the franchise?

[Mike Ryan]

It is in that they can't, like, they have a shot in this conference. People are hurt. It's kind of wide open. They have enough capital to go out there and get the next superstar. That's a malcontented. And they have a ro. They have a roster spot and a salary that is easy to flip around. The deadline that's expiring and they can't move it.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Like, I get it. That Rosier makes. And you're right. Like it's. It's total bullshit, obviously. And Adam. Adam Silver doing nothing per usual. Most. Most overrated commissioner in the history of league sports. And the Heaters sitting here with an asset that they could trade. But like, who's the guy right now? Are you.

[Chris Cody]

Are. Are you.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Are you saying that between now and February someone will pop up.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't I I assume someone always pops up around the deadline and I like this is something that's John would.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Not fit what they're doing.

[Mike Ryan]

This is unfair what the Heat are saddled with right now because they have a piece right? It's a strange thing in the NBA where a terrible contract.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's unfair, but I just don't value it's unfair. But I totally But I don't I don't know that it's holding them back.

[Mike Ryan]

But where's the resolution right? They knew about the situation and then Miami traded for them, said nothing. And now we have an FBI, an FBI indictment. We're now $26 million.

[Chris Cody]

It wouldn't be Miami if there wasn't an FBI indictment somewhere around. Everything that's happening here, folks.

[Tony]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

Don LeBatard.

[Chris Cody]

Teammates can't shoot from three. Now. They're gonna see a different Jimm. Now he's just. Just playing nickel back in the locker room. And st and threes as they chase the nets for the six seed. These five words in his head scream, are we winning games? Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

This is the D Levatar show with the St.

[Chris Cody]

Zaslo, just for the record.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Is out of control. He's cooking.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, but look, so let's slow the show down. Do your little Thanksgiving. Let's do a lamb man to him.

[Tony]

Dan, I have another. Looks like right by the legend Bob Lee.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, let's see what that is.

[Mike Ryan]

Stephen A. Smith looks like the family member of Thanksgiving that takes personal offense when someone else declares the sweet potatoes the best dish over the stomach.

[Tony]

Back to your show.

[Chris Cody]

How did we get this sound from espn? This doesn't seem to be.

[Mike Ryan]

How did we get Bob Lee to respond to that email?

[Chris Cody]

You guys have noticed that Zaslo is flying high. He has yelled at Tony. Are you high? Get a clue. You're out to lunch twice, guys. Wrong twice. You're out to lunch. Who did you say was looking like a fool? I was having hard. I was having a hard time keeping up. You said, oh, yo, Ben Still.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stiller.

[Chris Cody]

Yo, Ben Stiller. You look like a fool. And. And, and. And you're Just. And you're saying that someone's doing nothing. Oh, yes. Adam Silver's doing nothing. I'm having trouble keeping up with you. Yeah, because you're shooting radio shrapnel in every direction.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, I'm.

[Chris Cody]

I'm.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm creating a list today. All right, Tony, you're right at the very top. You might be able to work yourself off. I don't know. I can't.

[Mike Ryan]

Let me keep Adam Silver the top of the list. How about that? Let's. Let's keep the main thing. The main thing right now.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Ben Stiller, Adam Silver, for sure. Yes. I'm crafting a list on today.

[Chris Cody]

Okay. So. But Tony's got an objection to Zaz, and I need to get to, um, stuff here because I know Mike is annoying, but he's got some.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What's going on with him?

[Chris Cody]

He's got some good points. And. And I. And I really do love that Miami as a conversation piece, it exists in sports teams. This Miami team exists to be the conversation piece that gets people arguing, which makes all of this stuff work. As long as you care and you're going to get outraged about the 13th team, then they'll go to 24 in a couple of years so Mike can get into the playoffs every year and shut up for a while.

[Mike Ryan]

I'd like to go to the playoff every year. I'd like to go to Charlotte. Look, we.

[Dan Le Batard]

That'd be cute.

[Mike Ryan]

We lost the dumb one. I'm sorry. We shouldn't have lost that game. The bummer about it was that we were all screaming, saying, hey, you're gonna lose a dumb one if you keep this going. And they. And they did. But Miami's learned from that. And Miami's a different team today. And I think there's a lot of groupthink. And the question that is being asked by most morons is what would happen if the two teams played today, Miami and Notre Dame? Allow me to tell you what would happen, because I went back and I watched that game between Miami and Notre Dame. That was a physical line of scrimmage beat down. There was meat on the bone for Miami. Miami was very, very close to making that a 21 point game in the fourth quarter.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was a three point game.

[Mike Ryan]

I understand where it finished. And the way that Notre Dame climbed back into that game and made the final score look better than how the game actually played out was Miami got penalties and Miami ran predictable. A gap offense.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yep.

[Mike Ryan]

Miami has since learned from that. Notre Dame is not the only team that is different from that game, Miami has improved and learned from smu. What would happen if Notre Dame played Miami today? What would happen if Miami played Louisville today? What would happen if Miami played SMU today? We can do this all day, but I can tell you what would happen if Miami played Notre Dame.

[Chris Cody]

You could do this all day.

[Mike Ryan]

I would. I have in my group chats. I do.

[Dan Le Batard]

And on Twitter.

[Chris Cody]

I just texted on Wednesday.

[Mike Ryan]

Does anybody know an AP voter? You should be working them and the coaches more on that in a second. But Miami would. Miami would beat up Notre Dame, and I think it would look worse. You've heard every excuse in the book for why Notre Dame performed that way. Week one. Who's our quarterback's first start? Okay. He was the best player on that team. You got a Heisman sexy hot pitch that got 10 carries and he finished for 33 yards in that game. C.J. carr wasn't the problem. C.J. carr was pretty freaking awesome in that game. Oh, we had a new D.C. so did we. Miami had a new defensive coordinator, and that's absent from the discussion. You're the only team that's allowed to have a new D.C. the game was 27, 24. I feel like there were more points on the board for Miami to score than there were for Notre Dame. I think Miami's defense is even better than they were week one against Notre Dame. So, yeah, spot the ball and let's play that game.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So what's your big question?

[Mike Ryan]

My question right now is why isn't the rest of the nation seeing this? That Miami is a damn good team, that you look at the teams ahead of Miami and if you spot the ball in the middle of that field, Miami can win these games. Miami's not getting outmatched when it comes to talent. Miami beat themselves in their two losses. Miami, with a team like that, that's built the way they are along the line of scrimmage, they are not getting blown out in a game. There's a lot of teams in that top 12 that I'm looking at them like they don't have a snowballs chance.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's your question.

[Mike Ryan]

Miami's not one of those.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's your question matter.

[Mike Ryan]

The results should matter.

[Dan Le Batard]

Isn't that what your argument has been?

[Mike Ryan]

The result should.

[Dan Le Batard]

So it doesn't matter if they beat themselves. They lost the games.

[Mike Ryan]

I understand that question, though. Yes. Okay.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Because my question is, would every GM in the NBA, or definitely every GM in the NBA, take. Hello? Where? Over Stefan Cassidy?

[Chris Cody]

All right. But I don't know what's Happening around here when Mike is now invoked snowballs chance in hell. Like not a snowball.

[Mike Ryan]

It's a bummer. Miami's going to go 21 and 4 over their last two seasons and be shut out. Now. Last year year I did the propaganda thing a little late. They blew a 21 point lead at Syracuse. They were a flawed team. They were a flawed team. We got what we deserved last year.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You can admit they'd cancel the NBA season if the spurs took Kello where over Stephan Castle and he had wear and cancel the season.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Tony]

I agree.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You understand, Tony, you understand that, right?

[Mike Ryan]

No.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Or you still lunch?

[Mike Ryan]

No.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You might still be out to lunch.

[Chris Cody]

What does that mean? Is an insult out to lunch?

[Mike Ryan]

That means I'm not here, Dan. But I'm here.

[Chris Cody]

Chris.

[Mike Ryan]

Ten toes down.

[Chris Cody]

Chris, I need to slow the show down because sports arguments keep breaking out. I need you to. I'm standing. He's sitting. By the way, some Thanksgiving stuff in here.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm allowed comfort.

[Chris Cody]

I also have to keep Tony off of Zaslow because Tony is disgusted by the way that Zaslo represented ESPN in Madison.

[Dan Le Batard]

What?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Why?

[Mike Ryan]

Look at him. Look at him. Put the camera on him. Look at the camera on him right now. Put the camera.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Look at that.

[Mike Ryan]

Please. Look at that. Like you. You have stuff. You have money to go and purchase things, and you go purchase that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yo, don't pocket watch me.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm not pocket watching you. I'm just looking at you and saying like there.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm very pleased with the way I look there.

[Mike Ryan]

What, are you kidding me?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I got a nice ESPN radio hoodie.

[Mike Ryan]

It was free.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And I'm not dressed like an Eskimo like the girls.

[Chris Cody]

It was 20.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Whoa.

[Chris Cody]

Hey. It was 20 degrees.

[Mike Ryan]

We can say that. No, we can say that. Play on. Play on. We can say that again.

[Chris Cody]

It was 20 degrees and you're not. How free. How cold were you that 20 degrees and windy, I'm sure.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And I'm doing the show outside for three hours.

[Chris Cody]

In, like, regular socks? Yeah, regular socks in 20.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And I didn't bring my long johns either. I should have. Dan. I look good in long johns.

[Chris Cody]

Wait a minute.

[Mike Ryan]

Think of where we are as a society where you tell your daughter, give me an indigenous person kiss.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

An Eskimo kiss. They're nice.

[Chris Cody]

Zaslo was dressed.

[Tony]

You look good in long johns. Don't they go under your Tony?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, I look good. But, you know, before I put the clothes.

[Mike Ryan]

He's got himself looking in the mirror. Long johns being like, yeah, this is it.

[Chris Cody]

Look but if.

[Tony]

Honey.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, let me FaceTime you.

[Chris Cody]

Look, can I just tell? Can I.

[Mike Ryan]

That indigenous person gives.

[Chris Cody]

Tony if he were on the road with ESPN representing the height of classy picture coat invention Vegas audio. Okay, so you heard that Z. Mink coat.

[Mike Ryan]

You didn't even know what a mink is, buddy. You look like Tyler Durden.

[Chris Cody]

All right, listen, I don't know who that is. That's Slow it down, Fight Club.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's cuz you're a movie sucker.

[Mike Ryan]

You haven't seen Dodgeball, buddy. What are you talking about? Slow down, Fight Club.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, I have.

[Mike Ryan]

I just didn't know the name.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know, Fight Club was the second date I had with my wife.

[Mike Ryan]

Nobody cares.

[Dan Le Batard]

Watch Fight Club together.

[Tony]

Stay focus. Mint coat.

[Chris Cody]

Thank you. Chris, get the Thanksgiving ready for me, please.

[Mike Ryan]

Chinchilla, by the way.

[Chris Cody]

Listen to me. Listen to me, Chris. Grab ahold of the show and grab ahold of the Thanksgiving thing so that I can have a tether to. If Tony were allowed to represent ESPN's audio coverage of Kingsport on Saturdays, Tony would be dressed far differently headed to Madison, Wisconsin than Zaz is. As he throws on a hoodie, does morning windy radio freezing his ass off. Can't possibly do the show well or looking good because it's too cold. Because it's winter in Madison.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's going to be inside.

[Mike Ryan]

But he looks like Gino Fuentes. So Gino Fuentes wears every single day to be back there.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm very pleased with how I look there. I am representing South Florida with that look right there. And how dare you assume that I didn't do a great job show. I roll out a bed, I knock it out of the park.

[Chris Cody]

You were cold. You sounded cold.

[Mike Ryan]

We hear your teeth on the broadcast.

[Chris Cody]

You sounded cold. You were. You're going to deny. Are you going to deny that you temper? What do you think that you. You tough. You toughed through the broadcast, but it sounded like you were outdoors and that you were cold.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I had no gloves.

[Chris Cody]

It's a morning.

[Mike Ryan]

Who goes to Madison with no gloves?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I had no gloves. Were you able to hear me rubbing the hand warmers together?

[Chris Cody]

Listen to me. This is not. This is the work of an amateur. He last season. You cannot go into a winter in Madison the way that team plays football and not expect a bone chill through your bones in late November.

[Mike Ryan]

It's still autumn.

[Chris Cody]

We said it was going to be 40 degrees. I think it's 20 and windy. And I think I could hear how cold Zaslo was on the radio. And only the Radio professional in him was able to tough it out.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Persevere.

[Chris Cody]

I dare say that Zaslo has never worked in worse conditions. Have you?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It was rare.

[Mike Ryan]

Rough.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It was rough.

[Mike Ryan]

You know, you could put another jacket on on top of the sweater, right?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Whatever, man. Another jacket, whatever. I didn't pack another one.

[Chris Cody]

Ever.

[Mike Ryan]

Did one of those remotes from Tire Kingdom.

[Chris Cody]

Zaslo I did.

[Mike Ryan]

That was with the ticket. Chicks.

[Chris Cody]

Guys, wait a minute. Come on. Can we just marvel at this ticket, people?

[Mike Ryan]

Sorry, Jeremy.

[Chris Cody]

Can we marvel at this adult toddler? Look, you tell me if this happens. Year one, Game one. Okay? I understand. He did this last year here. He had time.

[Mike Ryan]

This is how you're supposed to dress, Dan, right there. Imagine ESPN radio, Tyler Durden looking ass. That's a suit, okay? With a chinchilla on top to do.

[Tony]

This as a punishment.

[Chris Cody]

Tony. Tony, if you were given this.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a cigar right there, Zaz.

[Chris Cody]

If you were given this opportunity, Tony, you command Saturday's airwaves on I don't know how many 300 channels.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's right.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I would. I would be dressed just like that. Making things happen, dressing for the occasion. Be like.

[Tony]

I'd be like Walt Frazier out there.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay.

[Chris Cody]

Good reference by the fella.

[Mike Ryan]

And you with one jacket on freezing your ass off. Cheat tatter.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Was it a jacket sweater freezing you?

[Chris Cody]

Would you be willing to concede that you've never sounded colder on the air?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It doesn't. I wasn't that cold, actually. I heard your teeth and it doesn't even matter. They never. I could chill my own blood. I was fine.

[Chris Cody]

Mike, do you want to just know how it is that you sound talking about the University of Miami? I just thought my tone was good. Okay, Your to.

[Mike Ryan]

The question that I wanted to ask is like, do you think Notre Dame would beat Miami if they played today? Because I don't.

[Chris Cody]

Mike, I did think your tone was good. I thought your argument was good. I didn't think there was a lot of room for Jeremy to have rebuttals. He did have some rebuttals I would have liked to have heard, but he couldn't quite get in over this.

[Mike Ryan]

So did we. Again, good tone.

[Chris Cody]

So did we.

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