Local Hour: Point A to Point B(illy)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz Episode: Local Hour: Point A to Point B(illy)
Release Date: February 13, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, recorded from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz engage in their trademark blend of sports commentary, pop culture discussions, and humorous banter. The episode, titled "Local Hour: Point A to Point B(illy)," delves into workplace dynamics, mental health, playful interactions about co-host Greg Cody, and a detailed analysis of a pivotal sports matchup between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs.

Workplace Dynamics: Running a "Loose Ship"

The conversation kicks off with Stugotz expressing concerns about the show's relaxed working environment, metaphorically referring to it as a "loose ship." He reflects on how this flexibility may lead to perceptions of uneven work ethic among team members.

Stugotz (01:28): "What I'm worried about, Stugotz, is that it's not just a wild Billy Thursday, which is dangerous and doesn't have a lot of precedent..."

This segues into a broader discussion about employee satisfaction and the balance between a relaxed work environment and maintaining productivity.

Mental Health and Anxiety: The Asteroid Metaphor

A significant portion of the episode features a candid conversation about anxiety and coping mechanisms. Stugotz introduces an asteroid metaphor to illustrate uncontrollable fears, prompting each host to share their perspectives on managing anxiety.

Stugotz (10:36): "I think the unhappiness epidemic... is triggered in part by the fact that a lot of people are doing for more than 40 hours a week something they deeply resent having to do."

Dan Le Batard shares his experiences with therapy as a tool for alleviating anxiety, emphasizing the importance of recognizing and addressing uncontrollable worries.

Dan LeBatard (38:06): "Therapy is very helpful to me in not just giving me coping tools for my anxiety..."

Playful Banter: Greg Cody's Tumi Briefcase and Canine Antics

The hosts engage in light-hearted ribbing of Greg Cody, particularly focusing on his iconic Tumi briefcase and his relationship with his dog, Jumping Charlie. This segment is rich with inside jokes and humorous exchanges that showcase the camaraderie among the hosts.

Stugotz (36:07): "I cracked the code by cracking the Cody Greg code."

They humorously discuss Greg's over-the-top arrival antics and his attempts to manage a fine using Venmo, adding a layer of entertainment for regular listeners familiar with these recurring jokes.

Sports Analysis: Eagles vs. Chiefs - Defensive Strategies and Coaching

Transitioning to sports, the hosts provide an in-depth analysis of the Philadelphia Eagles' defensive performance against the Kansas City Chiefs. They critique the Eagles' defensive coordinator, Nick Wright, and examine how his strategies are influencing game outcomes.

Stugotz (42:05): "We keep discrediting Fangs. When a guy doesn't have to blitz all game and he's getting pressure with four all game, how much does the defensive coordinator have to do?"

The discussion highlights the effectiveness of the Chiefs' defense under Wright's coordination, questioning whether his tactics offer a sustainable advantage. The hosts debate the role of analytics in modern football and the potential need for adaptive strategies to counteract dominant opponents.

Greg Cody (43:53): "Right."

Their conversation underscores the complexities of NFL coaching strategies and the impact of defensive play-calling on team success.

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with continued playful interactions and a brief return to promotional segments, maintaining the show's signature mix of humor and substantive discussions. Throughout "Point A to Point B(illy)," Dan Le Batard and Stugotz successfully balance insightful commentary with entertaining banter, making it a compelling listen for both long-time fans and newcomers.

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Notable Quotes:

• Stugotz (07:20): "There aren't a lot of working environments in America that look like this on television."

• Dan LeBatard (08:43): "Therapy is very helpful to me in not just giving me coping tools for my anxiety..."

• Greg Cody (43:53): "Right."

• Billy Gill (21:12): "He's a good dog."

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Key Takeaways:

• Workplace Flexibility vs. Productivity: The hosts explore the implications of maintaining a relaxed work environment and its effects on team dynamics.

• Mental Health Awareness: The episode advocates for recognizing and addressing anxiety through personal experiences and therapeutic approaches.

• Humorous Host Interactions: Ongoing jokes about Greg Cody add levity and showcase the hosts' chemistry.

• Sports Strategy Insight: A critical examination of defensive strategies in NFL games provides listeners with a deeper understanding of game dynamics and coaching decisions.

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the main discussions and recurring themes of the episode, offering insight into the hosts' viewpoints and the dynamic interplay that defines The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugotz]

Oh, right this way.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Billy Gill]

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[Stugotz]

Shadow Show.

[Greg Cody]

Shadow Show.

[Stugotz]

Shadow Show.

[Greg Cody]

Shadow Show.

[Stugotz]

Shadow Show.

[Greg Cody]

Shadow Show.

[Stugotz]

Shadow Show. Shadow Show.

[Greg Cody]

Shadow Show.

[Stugotz]

Shadow Show. Shadow Show.

[Greg Cody]

Shadowing it. Shadowing it.

[Stugotz]

What I'm worried about Stugot, is that it's not just a wild Billy Thursday, which is dangerous and doesn't have a lot of precedent, but because you heard it was a wild Billy Thursday.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

You came in here when you were still on your elbows and knees walking around from what the super bowl did to you. You've come in here to be a part of a Wild Billy Thursday. And furthermore, Greg Cody is rushing as fast as he can to get here. So we're going to get the added benefit of Greg co on a wild Billy Thursday walking in mid segment, walking in breathless, not knowing that we're on the air. Confused.

[Mike Ryan]

My favorite kind of Greg Cody, though. I mean Billy, what are we in.

[Billy Gill]

For on wild regular day? I'm here to get us pointed. Listen, I'm in this chair. I have different responsibilities when I'm asked to be in this chair.

[Mike Ryan]

Yep.

[Billy Gill]

I'm here to be responsible. I'm here to get us Start a segment, end a segment, get the ads in. Do the Thursday thunder tell you about Smirnoff. Tell you about draftkings. Check the boxes. Point A to point B. That's what we're today on. Point A to point B. That's exactly what we're doing here today.

[Stugotz]

Train station that goes point A to point B.

[Billy Gill]

That's right.

[Stugotz]

Jessica, can you Help me understand inner office, inner shipping container, back row dynamics. Billy moving from the back row and his seat of normal grenade rolling and being replaced by Tony, who he sabotaged yesterday in a prank in his return from paternity leave. Tony being over Billy's shoulder when Billy's just trying to get us from point A and to point B and can retaliate on Billy because their relationship is not a supportive one. Back row Tony. How does it change today that Billy's in the front seat?

[Tony]

I'm supporting Billy. He's my ep. He's the captain of the ship today. He's the one that's driving from point A to point B again, talking about smirnoff, talking about DraftKings, talking about all the sponsors, all the great sponsors that, you know, promote on this show. That's what we do. My captain is here. We're locked in, and we're excited to do the show today, Dan. Even though I talked to Robert and I was like, hey, look what happened here.

[Greg Cody]

Back here.

[Tony]

So, Billy, you weren't here yesterday.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Tony]

As you don't know, the screw. As you can see, like, right here. This screw right here in the. In the microphone.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, he knows, Tony.

[Tony]

Right. I'm just saying, like, he doesn't know, so I'm gonna explain.

[Billy Gill]

How could I?

[Tony]

Exactly. So all of a sudden, I went to start the show. I grabbed the mic to pull it towards me because it was a little.

[Stugotz]

Far away, and because he's awfully handsy with the mic all the time.

[Tony]

Okay. Some would say that. And then all of a sudden, the whole thing falls apart.

[Billy Gill]

Oh.

[Tony]

And it exploded. And I had to hold it in my hand. And then Robert had to come in. We had to tape it. We had to do a bunch of stuff.

[Billy Gill]

So, you know, did they bill you for that or.

[Tony]

Didn't build me? No, I built the company.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, you built the company?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Tony]

No, Robert, I. Robert paid me. I paid.

[Billy Gill]

What did you get paid for?

[Tony]

Jessica, bring it to his attention.

[Stugotz]

How's this going to go with Billy having to look over his shoulder when he's got to get point A to point B?

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't know what you mean.

[Stugotz]

Okay, thank.

[Billy Gill]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.

[Stugotz]

Look who's arriving heroically on a Billy. A wild Billy Thursday. Greg Cody is arriving in the middle of our show. He's gonna. He's gonna get ready. He's gonna get ready quickly. That will not be noisy at all. He will do so. Eff a surgical strike like a Navy Seal team. He will be a 70 year old that gets into position and ready to broadcast. Wow. Like the professional that he is. How was traffic this morning, Greg?

[Greg Cody]

It wasn't the traffic. What happened is I had to swerve off the road to avoid a. A hurtling meteor that was crashing to the earth.

[Mike Ryan]

Huh.

[Greg Cody]

Plus traffic was bad.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Stugotz]

Okay. He's coming in flying with jokes and noises. He's going to unzip a. What I'm assuming is a travel bag he got at the 1992 Barcelona Olympics.

[Greg Cody]

Wrong. This happens to be a Christma gift from an unmentioned son of mine who decided I needed a new one. Wow.

[Stugotz]

Wow.

[Greg Cody]

It's a little bit small, but it's new.

[Billy Gill]

What, Christmas this year?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. Michael, the other one.

[Billy Gill]

Really? Wow. Christopher.

[Greg Cody]

I think it was Christopher. I don't know. I. I mix them up.

[Stugotz]

Christopher is out today. He and Mike Ryan have decided to go celebrate hockey in Canada and Valentine's Day together. They just decided not to show up for work. I'm not going to reveal any sources, but in the eating area, the show, I did overhear some people say, some shrug and say, I don't know, can they just show up for work whenever they want to? And I had no idea who they were talking about. It could have been anybody around here.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, it was those two.

[Billy Gill]

It wasn't those two. Which is the funny thing. We're talking about someone else.

[Stugotz]

When I walked by and I heard you say it, I'm like, it could be anybody. I don't, I don't know who they're saying that about. That they're, they're complaining and they're grousing in the corner that they had to come into work today and somebody else didn't have to come into work and just chose not to come into work today.

[Greg Cody]

Well, you're on a loose ship. Can I say that?

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

You know, I, On Tuesday, I walk into a room here in the studio. Somebody's getting a massage.

[Mike Ryan]

Yep.

[Greg Cody]

The hell's going on?

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, that did happen. And like in a, in a somewhat state of undress, and the door was locked and it was like, well, we have to go in here. We were sent to the penalty box. And then they, like opened the door and they're like, oh, we're getting a massage. I'm like, oh, right.

[Mike Ryan]

Got weird, right?

[Billy Gill]

It did, yeah. Then we had to get out of there because you had sent all three of us the penalty box at the same time. We had to figure out a new place to go. I don't know what's going on here. If I was there, point A to point B that day we veered off.

[Stugotz]

Right. Well, let me ask the group this before I get into today's subject matter, because when Greg Cody says this, it would appear to be self evident. The sentence, you run a loose ship.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

There aren't a lot of working environments in America that look like this on television. Like, yes, we run a very loose ship. But I thought that's, that's what employees would want. I'm wrong. Right. I'm wrong that, that the running of a loose ship makes it so you get those conversations in the corner of the eating area where people are noticing that somebody else has a day off and isn't working as hard as they are or whatever it is that those things. So. But I would have thought, I would think that most people listening to this would like to work in an environment that is a loose ship. I'm wrong.

[Billy Gill]

Well, the reality is no one wants to work. Right. So, like, that's, that's if we're going.

[Mike Ryan]

To cut to the loose ship.

[Billy Gill]

I guess no one actually, if you gave everyone their, you know, prime working conditions, it would be ident. Want to work.

[Stugotz]

Is that true? Do you think that that's true? That's. I don't think that's true.

[Mike Ryan]

Most people don't want to work.

[Stugotz]

Okay. But there are a lot of people that love their jobs and do want to do them. Like, I'm not making that up. I would say you've heard me say this before. I think the unhappiness epidemic that you will find everywhere in the world is at least triggered in part by the fact that a lot of people are doing for more than 40 hours a week something they deeply resent having to do. Like, I understand why people would be really sad with their lives when so much of it is spent something they hate doing. But this ain't that or it's not supposed to be.

[Dan LeBatard]

I just. Maybe there's just a lot of baggage that comes with this loose ship. Speaking of baggage, Greg, is that a Tumi briefcase?

[Greg Cody]

Oh, I have no idea.

[Stugotz]

That would be a good one.

[Dan LeBatard]

Wait a minute.

[Stugotz]

That's an expensive brand. Is that, is that a right. I don't. It looks like a Tumi, but I.

[Greg Cody]

Don'T think it is a to me.

[Stugotz]

Wow, look at that.

[Greg Cody]

T u m I.

[Billy Gill]

It's a nice gift.

[Stugotz]

Wow.

[Greg Cody]

Wow. Is it really?

[Stugotz]

Yes. Yeah, That's a good one.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's like a 600 briefcase.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, it is.

[Billy Gill]

It can't probably A regift? If we're going to be honest, it was a regift.

[Dan LeBatard]

Why can't it be?

[Greg Cody]

What do you mean it wasn't? What do you know?

[Mike Ryan]

I just have the feeling it was a regift from Christopher, that's all. Yes, yes.

[Billy Gill]

Someone heard Christopher got the EP situation. So you know what? This is an important man of business. He needs a bag that goes along with. I wouldn't be surprised, honestly, if Erlene didn't give that to Christopher, he forgot. And then Christopher gave it to you. And no one wants to say what happened because we're all embarrassed.

[Stugotz]

I wouldn't be surprised if Greg Cody on Christmas is such a narcissist that the way he gives Christmas gifts is with little stickers that say to me. And that comes right. It comes right back to him because he's all about himself on these things. And I got to tell you, Stu got. I stand wildly corrected here. I accused that of being his 1992 Barcelona Olympics gift bag. Was that 92? Do I have the year wrong? 90.

[Mike Ryan]

I think it was 92. Barcelona. He still has that bag, though.

[Stugotz]

He has it and brings it in often. And it's battered and it shows. My guess is. Put it on the poll, please. Juju at Lebitard show. Do you have any bag that are 30 years old? Yes or no? Any bags? That is your phone. That is a $5 Venmo fine for Greg Cody. Keep the phone on for a second and pay that fine. We're done with the not paying a fine.

[Mike Ryan]

I'd like to challenge that fine, though. I mean, he's coming in, he's rushed, he's out of breath.

[Stugotz]

What do you mean?

[Mike Ryan]

You like bad traffic? A meteor, I mean.

[Stugotz]

Well, let's talk about the meteor for a second because Greg Cody made that as a joke, and I'm not sure he's aware. And Stugats has been railing about this for a while. And I tell America, pay attention to this man. He was way out in front on Elon Musk. Like, ahead of the world on this. And something else he's been ahead of the world on is the Chiefs. Why also the Chiefs? Yes. Why don't we pay more attention when there's the risk of a meteor or an asteroid hitting the Earth? Now, hold on, Tony, before you wave your hand at me. Last week, for reasons that I'm having trouble explaining, it was reported by NASA that in 2032, there is a 1.6% chance of an asteroid between 100 and 300ft. So as Large as a football field hitting the Earth. And then the next day it became 1.9% chance.

[Billy Gill]

Wow.

[Stugotz]

And then it elevated a couple of days later to 2.3% chance. And so I'm just curious, what do you. Tony, why are you.

[Tony]

Don't worry about that, Dan, okay? You worry about a lot of things. One thing you do not have to worry about is an asteroid hitting the world, okay? You don't have to worry about that. When we talk about asteroids and we talk about space, okay, they're like, oh, there was a near miss of an asteroid. It was 998 million miles away. It just missed us. We can't believe it. So it's like there's a 2% chance that a football field sized asteroid is going to hit us, but it's going to miss us by 40 million miles.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I like those odds.

[Tony]

Me too, Greg.

[Greg Cody]

2%. Yeah, I'll take those odds. And the other thing is this.

[Mike Ryan]

But the odds are climbing.

[Tony]

Thank you.

[Greg Cody]

1.6 to 2.1. I like those odds.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. But also, what are you, Stu gotts or Dan LeBatard going to do about it other than panic for 10 years about it? Are you going to build a rocket ship and go out there and, like, deflect you?

[Tony]

Somebody is.

[Billy Gill]

You guys can literally do nothing about this whatsoever. So why even stress? If we're going to send a Ben Affleck out there and they're going to blow it up and save humanity, that's for someone else to figure out how to do. That's not for you to figure out. That's not for Dan to figure out. 2%. Don't think about it.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I'm more worried about a nuclear missile from North Korea, to be honest with you. And here's why. An asteroid the size of a football field is relatively small. Right. And the US Military has the wherewithal to shoot that down when it is hundreds of miles away. And what you get instead of an asteroid hitting the Earth, you get a million different little pieces of charcoal and a couple of them might land in your backyard, you know, in the barbecue. Yeah. And it would be charged.

[Stugotz]

You're speaking like a real expert on how this goes.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, yeah, yeah, no, no, I'm aware. I'm aware.

[Stugotz]

What does that mean? Can you. What do you mean you're.

[Billy Gill]

He's aware?

[Stugotz]

I mean, what are you aware of?

[Greg Cody]

You think the military does not have the wherewithal to shoot down?

[Mike Ryan]

I'm not certain.

[Greg Cody]

Asteroid?

[Mike Ryan]

I'm not certain. I mean, that's my concern. Does anyone have a plan? They just talk about the asteroid coming near earth by 2000. What are we going to do about it?

[Greg Cody]

Okay, that's fair.

[Stugotz]

Look, okay, let's just settle down for just a second because I thought when you know some of our nation's foremost scientists, right? I'm not, I'm not quoting the Weekly World News here. It's NASA. Like we, we. Maybe we don't know a lot about space, but I trust that those people know more about that stuff than we know. Okay, maybe not. Maybe Billy has more expertise.

[Billy Gill]

Well, we haven't been to the moon in about 70 years, so it kind of like stops progress there.

[Tony]

That's weird, by the way.

[Billy Gill]

Exactly. Right?

[Mike Ryan]

Figure it out.

[Billy Gill]

What do they know? They know something.

[Tony]

They've known something for a long time.

[Billy Gill]

Something spooked them very clearly. They said, you know what? Too close to the sun, literally, while they were moving in the opposite direction.

[Stugotz]

But if the result of my fear and stug fear and Greg Cody's fear is that Billy Gill of all people steps forward and says, let me be your fear coach, coach, and tells us there's nothing to worry about. As I would say, our, I'm not going to say our industry's chief warrior, but in this environment, you're not.

[Billy Gill]

No, you are, Dan. You've. You've surpassed me.

[Stugotz]

Okay, okay. So you and me are the chief warriors and I'm over here talking about the asteroid with my friends and you're over here auditioning to be promoted for Fear Coach. Like that you. That you're going to say that because you can't control something, you shouldn't worry about it. Yes. There's enlightenment on the other side of that. That is absolute. That's the death probably serenity prayer.

[Billy Gill]

If it hits us, we're screwed. Right?

[Tony]

It doesn't matter if we hit us.

[Billy Gill]

I can't actually do anything to stop it from hitting us. And also, by the way, and I don't like, like, listen, I'm not going to pretend to be a military expert, but like North Korea isn't where we ourselves need to worry about the missiles coming from, right? Like they don't have a long range missile enough that's going to hit Miami.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, but they got a crazy man running the country.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, yeah, but it'll hit somewhere else in the country, which, like, they're the only ones not good. But also not us. Cuba is what we got to keep an eye on.

[Greg Cody]

You know what I mean?

[Billy Gill]

Wow, there's a missile crisis not too long ago.

[Stugotz]

Was that Somebody just saying these ships.

[Billy Gill]

Going around the Gulf of America, don't worry, guys.

[Dan LeBatard]

MIT said not to worry about it until 2020 when they'll have a better sense for the actual. So we've got time.

[Stugotz]

So we're early.

[Mike Ryan]

No, I'm going to worry right up until someone tells me it's gone.

[Dan LeBatard]

Don't worry until 2028.

[Billy Gill]

What a crazy time.

[Dan LeBatard]

Then you can worry Mr. Or not. They might tell. They literally said not to worry.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, well, there you go.

[Stugotz]

Go ahead and put it in your calendars. Get. Let's see if we get an alert on our phones that 2028. That's good, that's good to know. So we don't have to worry now. We can wait till 2028.

[Billy Gill]

When's it supposed to hit it?

[Tony]

32 by 32.

[Billy Gill]

Four years of worrying after that, I believe. Wake me up in 2031.

[Stugotz]

Billy, I don't know who this new you is.

[Billy Gill]

What am I supposed to do? Like, honestly about this, this meteor, like, if I see it in the sky, I'm like, oh, that's not good. And I'll panic then. But like I will die of a heart attack overthinking it and panicking before I die of it hitting us.

[Greg Cody]

Right.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm with Dan though. This calm, collected, cool. It's Billy, Chill.

[Dan LeBatard]

They said it's not a dinosaur killing asteroid, which was 10 km in diameter, but it can do some serious damage. In the unlikely event the asteroid is on a path to hit Earth, they said scientists will be able to predict when and where it will hit, allowing people to be evacuated or even possibly deflecting the asteroid's orbit.

[Billy Gill]

Well, there you go. Nothing to worry about, nothing to see here.

[Stugotz]

Well, you articulating a lack of worry.

[Billy Gill]

I would like point A to point B.

[Stugotz]

Would like our show to produce. Billy, I've enjoyed how you do the reads. You have. You add some personality to the reads.

[Billy Gill]

I can shill it like no one.

[Stugotz]

Else where it's distinctly you. And so it's funny in there. And I want to see if we can get you to be somebody who soothes people about whatever their anxieties are. Because it is a life truth and life wisdom that you just pointed out that, yes, you will not be plagued by worry or anxiety. Your life will be happier if you do not worry about the things that you cannot control. Like you hear athletes say within reason all the time. Well, controllables, no, but you say within reason. But when I was saying the serenity prayer, like it's all about being Able to have the clarity to figure out what's the stuff I can control and what's the stuff that I can't control. But when it comes to anxiety, and I ask this question sincerely because when you say that I've become our chief warrior. This is my first conscious experience with anxiety. Whenever talking about anxiety before in my life, it was something that I was separating myself from, I was being empathetic about. It was over there. This is what I imagine this feels like to blah, blah, blah. In my case, I'm not good at recognizing my anxieties. And so if I'm not good at recognizing my anxieties, then I'm not good at then figuring out what can I control, what can't I control. How anxious do you guys view yourselves as? Do you have, do you all have good self awareness about how anxious you are? Because worry, worry can be solved. Worry can be solved if, whatever, if you have the conscious presence to know that you're wasting your time worrying. But I don't think it stops any of us from worrying. I think it creates a great deal of unhappiness, the fact that you're always worried about something.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, most people worry too much. Anxiety is a real problem. But in this case, I reiterate, now there are asteroids out there flying around that are the size of small planets. Okay. If a small planet is hitting the Earth, I worry about that.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Greg Cody]

A hundred yard long asteroid is small.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Greg Cody]

It's a small thing. And I just.

[Mike Ryan]

Going at a great speed.

[Greg Cody]

Going at a great speed. Well, you know, this is the modern age though, okay. If an asteroid was coming at us back in the old west, we'd have to try to lasso it with a rope.

[Billy Gill]

That's true.

[Greg Cody]

It wouldn't work. Now the technology says you shoot it down. Right.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, you should try the lasso again though.

[Stugotz]

That would be cool.

[Dan LeBatard]

To answer your question, Dan, therapy is very helpful to me in not just giving me coping tools for my anxiety, but also when I do think something in my head like what if an asteroid hits Earth in eight years? I can then picture my conversation with my therapist and how hard she'd laugh at me for having that thought. And then the thought just sort of passes through and I never think about it again.

[Stugotz]

Why is it that all of us do what Greg Cody does, which is whatever future problem we have, often the future that can't be totally seen, we'll shoot it down with lasers. Well, we'll fix it with whatever our future lasers are. Sure, our government will do it.

[Greg Cody]

Right. Send a platoon of drones.

[Stugotz]

Our military.

[Billy Gill]

There's ah, the drones will take care of.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Tony]

Got a lot better at just addressing that stuff. Head on.

[Stugotz]

Therapy's really helped with that.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Although there was one session I had in 2020 where I was telling a different therapist that I have since not continued to see. Like, hey, have you heard about this Covid thing in China? And he laughed at me and was like, you don't need to worry about that. And then three weeks later we were in lockdown for the next year and a half.

[Greg Cody]

Wow.

[Billy Gill]

Well, there you go. You worry about it when it comes. Yeah, good therapist.

[Mike Ryan]

These aren't Greg's problems though. That's why he's not so worried about the asteroid in eight years.

[Greg Cody]

I mean, I mean I may or may not be around.

[Billy Gill]

Well, that's the thing.

[Greg Cody]

I told you when I got my new dog, I'm like, will, Will my dog outlive me with jumping Charlie? Yeah. It was the first time I'd ever had that thought. Jumping Charlie turns three.

[Billy Gill]

Wow.

[Greg Cody]

Next month and we're gonna have a big party. I think all of you are invited. It's gonna be a big ass party for Charlie, so we're looking forward to it.

[Billy Gill]

You think we're all invited?

[Greg Cody]

You know I'm not in charge of the invitations. Have a staff that handles all that.

[Jessica]

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[Izzy Gutierrez]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Izzy Gutierrez]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Unknown]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Billy Gill]

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[Stugotz]

That'S how it's gonna end. The the mailing it in, the end of the retirement. Chris, go get me. This is just gonna be him coming out and hitting the one or two notes of that kind of thing. And you know it. And then just giving us finger guns and leaving.

[Greg Cody]

Baby, you should listen to the great Cody show podcast because that's all we do for 55 minutes a week is just say catchphrases. We even make songs about them. And you know it is a song, for crying out loud. It's great. Hopefully that's a SUI nominee for best song. And you know it, baby, and you know it.

[Stugotz]

Stugats.

[Greg Cody]

And you know it, baby and you know it and you know it.

[Billy Gill]

And.

[Greg Cody]

You know it, baby and you know it.

[Billy Gill]

This is the Dan Levatar show with two gods.

[Stugotz]

Greg Cody is a big dog guy. I am surprised that Jumping Charlie is another dog that he has brought into his life to care for. He has fallen in love with that dog. The dog is annoying. The dog will not behave. But he's a dog lover. And Monty the schnauzer. The schnauzer is the most magical of the dogs. But Monty the schnauzer has now been has won the champ. It's the champion Schnauzer. It is the best of all of the dogs.

[Greg Cody]

He won best of show at the Westminster Kennel Club show, which is the super bowl of dog shows. I know there's a lot of derivatives now, a lot of competition. Others, you know, national dog shows. The Westminster is. Is the Cadillac, the king of dog shows. And this dog, I don't. I'd never heard of a giant schnauzer. I don't like dogs with giant in the name, because, like, a standard poodle is a little, tiny poodle that's like the size of a horse. My nana and Pop Doogie had a giant poodle, and it was just freaky every time you went over there. It's like a poodle on steroids. It's a poodle the size of a pony. But congratulations to the giant schnauzer. Handsome dog.

[Billy Gill]

Bit pretentious looking, though, if we're gonna be honest.

[Greg Cody]

The schnauzer.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. A small schnauzer is fine. When it gets, like. You're saying big like that. A bit much.

[Greg Cody]

I agree with you.

[Tony]

Is it the goatee? He's got, like, a little goatee hanging down.

[Billy Gill]

I think it's that the hair combed to the side at the top. There's just a lot of it where you can sense, like, judgment.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Coming from that dog.

[Stugotz]

When you say bit pretentious. Isn't that what we're going for on the high end of what that show is? I thought when you're calling it Westminster, if you call anything Westminster. What, cheese? Whatever. It's on the. It's on the fancy end. Whatever. Westminster, Whatever is making something better. Yes, whatever. Yes. If I had some Westminster brand cheese. If I. I sounds good. Okay, wait a minute. If we're doing word association. Okay. Westminster is a word that I almost only associate with this dog show, and therefore, it's high falutin.

[Greg Cody]

Right.

[Stugotz]

It's a. It is. To treat your animals this way is a study in excess. And I thought the whole point was to be pretentious. It's essentially equestrian for dogs.

[Greg Cody]

Yep.

[Tony]

When I think of Westminster, I think of Alex Rodriguez, too.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, there you go. Westminster Christian. I think a Westminster abbey back in 2022.

[Tony]

A bloodhound one. There was a Pekingese in 2021, a fox terrier in 2019, German shepherd in 2017. There's all sorts of. There's a beagle in 2015.

[Billy Gill]

Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, all sorts of different dogs, but they're all purebred.

[Stugotz]

Well, yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

They're not gonna let Willow win the Westminster Much.

[Stugotz]

Never winning?

[Greg Cody]

No, never.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, this is America and like there's all sorts of ethical concerns with breeding purebred animals and health effects.

[Stugotz]

Is it, is it true? What is the highest ranking mutt there's ever been? Like, what is the success story of the Westminster Dog Show? I don't believe that is an official classification.

[Billy Gill]

She's famous.

[Dan LeBatard]

She's on this show.

[Stugotz]

Yes, you mentioned that. But there's another dog on the show now that is not. Who's this guy famous? I don't know. Is that a guy? Is that a, is that a boy? Is that.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, it's Sasha. Still Sasha.

[Tony]

Who's this boy dog?

[Dan LeBatard]

She's my friend.

[Tony]

Which came out of nowhere. We're in the commissary, we're in the Eaton area. All of a sudden I look down, there's a little dog. I'm like, we usually have the big dog. The big dog's not here. The little dog's here. Now. Who's this little dog?

[Mike Ryan]

Joe Rose.

[Dan LeBatard]

They'll both be here tomorrow.

[Billy Gill]

I'm looking up a list of famous mutts on petplace.com. there's a whole list here. Spike from Old Yeller was a mutt.

[Stugotz]

The question, I guess I'm asking you is what is the greatest underdog story in the history of the Westminster Dog Show? A not purebred who climbs to the highest of rankings and compet makes the crowd gasp because he or she was dirty and somehow made it to the top of the food chain.

[Greg Cody]

I don't think that's ever happened.

[Tony]

Apparently a mixed breed dog. Last year in 2024, won the agility.

[Billy Gill]

Competition at the Westminster Kennel Club. I don't like any of that story.

[Mike Ryan]

Win the whole thing.

[Billy Gill]

I just, I don't like the way those words came together.

[Stugotz]

Well, what I know about that dog show is that the agility thing is the single most impressive thing in the dog show. That if we're, if we're classifying these animals for being beautiful, the, the thing that, that they do on the agility drills suggests a discipline that makes me very frustrated with my own dog. And I can't imagine how it is that Greg Cody experiences jumping Charlie because jumping Charlie is a bad boy.

[Billy Gill]

No.

[Stugotz]

Yes. Yes. Jump.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Greg Cody]

It's a good dog.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. Good dog.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. He's a Good dog.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. J.C. yeah. Grabbed dogs want to be dumb. Dan, I don't know if you know that. If you, if you have a good boy, a good girl, they're dumb. The smart dogs, they're not living Jumping.

[Stugotz]

Charlie is not a good boy.

[Greg Cody]

It's jumping.

[Billy Gill]

Jumping?

[Greg Cody]

There's no jumping apostrophe. That's a fine.

[Stugotz]

Did you pay your fine?

[Billy Gill]

You need to reach into your pocket.

[Greg Cody]

As I recall, my fine is under dispute raised by my attorney, Stu Gotz.

[Mike Ryan]

Thank you.

[Greg Cody]

Who says that because of the Hurley burly. The nature of my arrival.

[Mike Ryan]

Yep.

[Stugotz]

He's not in charge. He's not qualified. Him leveling an appeal or a challenge means nothing. Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Speak to my attorney.

[Billy Gill]

I think I'm in charge today.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Billy Gill]

Why did you take Greg's phone? To pay your fine. Greg is that.

[Stugotz]

I'm gonna pay both of them. I'm gonna pay his fine and mine.

[Tony]

You're gonna pay it?

[Billy Gill]

Look how easy Venmo makes.

[Greg Cody]

Hello, Dan. Money.

[Mike Ryan]

Real.

[Greg Cody]

I am not gonna put it on my tab.

[Stugotz]

Nope, I'm not gonna. I'm to pay for yours on your Venmo, which I was told, Chris told me that your wife actually now has installed it.

[Greg Cody]

You don't know how to get to my phone.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, well, he's holding it right now.

[Mike Ryan]

He grabbed it from me. You need his code.

[Billy Gill]

If you saw that.

[Greg Cody]

Good luck guessing my code.

[Stugotz]

Really? You think it's going to be that hard? You think it's going to be really tough?

[Greg Cody]

Do you see if you're right?

[Billy Gill]

Is that what it is? Of course.

[Stugotz]

It's every. I'm.

[Mike Ryan]

It can't be that. It can't be that obvious.

[Greg Cody]

The way to reveal all my private.

[Tony]

He stopped himself dancing.

[Billy Gill]

Committed a crime, I think.

[Greg Cody]

Edit that out.

[Stugotz]

That's right. For those of you who do not know that reference, I will tell you that story because it's one of the favorites I've ever told around here about Greg Cody. There was an. A very acerbic. Very acerbic Minnesota Tribune columnist named Tom Powers, who was bitter from 30 years of Minnesota Coalition. And Greg Cody, in a really heartfelt moment. And I'm pretty sure that Greg Cody shut down emotionally after this. In almost every way. So that he becomes the man that you see before you today. But Greg Cody, very emotionally, was telling me and Tom Powers at a table about how he wanted to write a book. The book, 1440, of his family, of his life, of the nostalgia, the romance, the mysticisms and the mysteries. And Tom Powell. Powers looks up at him. And the only thing Tom Powers says to an emotional Greg Cody is, that sounds duller than dog shit.

[Billy Gill]

The hell does he know?

[Greg Cody]

Powers was drunk at the time.

[Billy Gill]

Probably.

[Mike Ryan]

Tom Powers is a great name for a fullback.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, it is. I have to admit I give him.

[Stugotz]

Credit for that, but put it on the poll, please. Or a porn star juju at lebatard show. Better occupation for someone named Tom Powers. Fullback or porn star at LeBatard show. Greg Cody left here the other day and I have remorse that I didn't get to this during Tuesday's show because Greg Cody, who just belches content wherever it is that he goes, left on the table after Tuesday's show. The following he says, I think Tiger woods should be allowed to play golf the rest of the way. Using a golf cart.

[Greg Cody]

Sure.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

I mean Stugots and I are simpatico on that.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Greg Cody]

First of all, everybody should be allowed to use a golf cart. It's ridiculous in 2025 that you have a bunch of golfers trailed by their man servant, carrying their heavy bag, walking a 4,000 yard course, slowing the game down. It's ridiculous. Drive a cart like the rest of us. It would make pro golf more relatable to people and. But if they're not going to make it universal, you make an exception for Tiger Woods.

[Mike Ryan]

You do. And I think the, the PGA Tour, the other players on tour would be okay with this because you want Tiger in the tournaments. Tiger would never do it. He would never ever take a golf cart. But I think if Tiger wants to be involved in these majors, wants to have a chance in these majors for the next two or three years, he needs to do it in a golf court. The problem for Tiger is he cannot walk the course anymore. He just can't get around the course. Who was that?

[Stugotz]

It's his phone.

[Billy Gill]

No, but that's you.

[Stugotz]

You're doing that code worked. The code worked. I was joking.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, Dan, it's the last four digits of his Social Security number. Of course it worked.

[Greg Cody]

I was changing that code.

[Mike Ryan]

You don't know how.

[Tony]

I can't believe what you've done to this man.

[Stugotz]

You're gonna have to change every password he has. What I've done to him.

[Billy Gill]

It's identity theft. I think it is.

[Stugotz]

Anyone who knows the inner jokes of this show would absolutely know I didn't know the code.

[Billy Gill]

It would never occur to me.

[Stugotz]

I cracked the code by cracking the Cody Greg code.

[Billy Gill]

That's what they called him. I found your Tumi bag online, Greg, if you want to know how much I'd love to know if it's the model that I found, which is known as the Alpha. Your Alpha retails here on Tumi.com at $575.

[Greg Cody]

That can't be true.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, why not?

[Greg Cody]

It's the best.

[Billy Gill]

Let me see past the alpha.

[Tony]

Judging the Alphabet.

[Billy Gill]

Let's see the alpha. I mean, probably T.J. maxx.

[Dan LeBatard]

You don't think Chris or something?

[Billy Gill]

Exactly.

[Tony]

Probably a little less sale. 50 bucks.

[Greg Cody]

Probably.

[Billy Gill]

Maybe.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Tony]

He had Yeti find it.

[Billy Gill]

Let's see that. Hold on. That may not be the alpha after all. Hold on a second.

[Tony]

That looks like a beta.

[Greg Cody]

What?

[Mike Ryan]

Not the Alpha.

[Tony]

Not the alpha. Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Let me see. Hold that bigger. Hold that up. No, that's not the alpha. I'll keep looking. I'm on it.

[Tony]

Alpha's got three sections, I think.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, it's probably used.

[Billy Gill]

Possibly.

[Stugotz]

You have not downloaded Venmo. You have not downloaded the app. Tried. No, nobody did.

[Billy Gill]

Someone did.

[Greg Cody]

Way to root through my phone.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. This is an invasion of privacy or something.

[Greg Cody]

The nerve of this man.

[Billy Gill]

All right, I have an idea. Dude, Dan, you venmoed. Greg's fine, and then he'll Venmo you to cover for the fine that you Venmoed for him.

[Stugotz]

No, I'm not gonna do it that way. I appreciate you just trying to get us from A to B. I'm just.

[Billy Gill]

Trying to make sure we get these pains moving. Tell you guys, this episode of the Dan LeBatard show with Stugots is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours. Just kind of getting point A to point B, you know what I mean?

[Stugotz]

Okay, now I have the problem of it's asking me to enter the password to his Apple account and it's gonna send something to that has upset bird in it.

[Dan LeBatard]

I would do maybe jumping Charlie 1440, maybe add a symbol at the end.

[Stugotz]

All right, this is going to be harder than I thought.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. Okay, look at this guy plumbing through my personal matters on the phone while the other guy's looking through my documents in my travel bag. What do you call something like that? A satchel.

[Billy Gill]

I think you just got to call it a tumi. Once you have a to me, you just say my Toomey.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, my homie.

[Mike Ryan]

Here are the only documents I found.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Look at this.

[Stugotz]

Amazing. Documents in the tumi bag are a bunch of stickers.

[Billy Gill]

When in Rome, when the meteorite hits. People are going to be clamoring for those.

[Stugotz]

Ladies and gentlemen, these are very valuable. These are artifacts. What is on the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. By the way, those stickers are for sale in our merch store for the low, low price of a dollar each.

[Billy Gill]

Wow.

[Greg Cody]

We have Izzy on our friend of the show Fos. Izzy Gutierrez. We talk a lot about the super bowl which came out was the day before we recorded and you know, fun stuff. I make a point that, that the Heat hit a home run with the whole Butler trade. I had to be negotiated down to a solo home run.

[Stugotz]

A home run.

[Greg Cody]

A short porch solo home run.

[Stugotz]

That's a Bloop single. A home run.

[Greg Cody]

A bloop single.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, it's a home run.

[Greg Cody]

Wiggins. Wiggins is an under 30 guy who's made an all star.

[Stugotz]

Wait, wait a minute.

[Greg Cody]

Better than average defender. Mitchell is a supreme defender, arguably one of the best in the league.

[Stugotz]

Yesterday they scored go off King. They scored eight points in the fourth quarter after having another.

[Tony]

The Thunder are really good, Dan. We mentioned it yesterday.

[Greg Cody]

Real, real good.

[Billy Gill]

Best team ever.

[Stugotz]

Yes, the Thunder real good. And through three quarters, the Heat led by 10. And then the Thunder scored 7,000 straight points.

[Tony]

But we'll have those three quarters forever, Dan. Just like we had 2213 in that first game. We'll have those three quarters forever.

[Mike Ryan]

They're a quarter away.

[Stugotz]

Oh, and it's an eight point fourth quarter, which I didn't think they could do worse than the nine point fourth quarter. But give them time. Give them time because that's what that's with hero and bam. And what he's calling a home run of a trade. A home run, Greg. Greg. A home run.

[Billy Gill]

Short porch.

[Greg Cody]

He said okay here. The alternative to that trade is. But they don't trade Butler. He stays on the team, poisons the rest of the season and then leaves in free agency. And they get nothing for him. Zero. What they did instead was they get rid of this toxic personality and they get a good player, a great defender and a first round draft pick.

[Dan LeBatard]

They did have more options than that to start the season.

[Mike Ryan]

Short porch.

[Billy Gill]

Short porch.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I'm not, I'm not retrofitting it.

[Billy Gill]

It was a 3, 2 count at this point in time.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, that's right.

[Stugotz]

I see that Nick Wright has popped up here and we will get to him in a moment. I'm interested in a few things about Nick Wright. I'm interested in how he's experienced the last few days of turbulence and heartbreak. But I'm also genuinely interested in what he thinks. When I ask you guys the question, does Travis Kelce leave that game and say those guys are better than we are and if we played that game a hundred times, that's how that would play out? Because Andy Reid and Spags and Mahomes, there's not a thing they would figure out For. Oh, that pass rush is getting there against six guys every time with four guys. And so I actually want to break down. How do you hold the Kansas city chiefs to 23 yards in a first half? Does that mean that Sirianni knows something that Andy Reid and Spags didn't know? Like.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, I think he has the thing that you're talking about. He has the ability to rush that quarterback with four pass rushers, and that's. That's a great ability to have maybe the most important thing in the NFL.

[Billy Gill]

Fangs knows something. Even though we want to continue to discredit Fangs on this show.

[Mike Ryan]

But how could Kelsey walk away thinking anything other than that team is a lot better than ours?

[Stugotz]

I mean. Well, we'll see, because athletes are really confident, and those guys had to, you know, be really confident to be champions, thinking that they're better than everyone. But when you say, Billy, that I keep discrediting.

[Billy Gill]

No, I said we. We.

[Stugotz]

Okay, Royal.

[Billy Gill]

We.

[Stugotz]

We keep discrediting Fangs. When a guy doesn't have to blitz all game and he's getting pressure with four all game, how much does the defensive coordinator have to do when, like, I'm. I'm asking. I'm asking genuinely.

[Billy Gill]

It's a game plan, Dan. They chose not to blitz.

[Stugotz]

Okay, but I mean, how many choices is he making? Like, I don't. It didn't feel like Philadelphia was being fooled by anything.

[Billy Gill]

Like, Philadelphia is not being fooled by anything whatsoever.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, what are you saying?

[Billy Gill]

Dominated, Right?

[Mike Ryan]

You're saying Fangs had nothing to do with it. It's Howie Roseman and the roster construction, which I think is the most important.

[Stugotz]

Part of the Eagle seat, the part that I'm interested in discussing with Nick Wright, and we'll see what he has to say about all of this is just the idea of a champion of three years, very worthy champion of three years that had a constipated offense this year and didn't have a running game. Could have done any number of things differently play. But do you think the result would have been a lot different, that there would have, like, whatever things it is you guys are scheming up. Yes. Patrick Mahomes cannot have the two turnovers. Like, sure. But those two turnovers are being caused by an unrest that we're not used to seeing from Patrick Mahomes. It was caused by something. It's not. Patrick Mahomes suddenly forgot how to be a quarterback who's won 17 postseason games.

[Mike Ryan]

It was caused by Fangs.

[Dan LeBatard]

It seems like that you. Like, there's like, a button that the defensive coordinator presses that says blitz and that that's all they do during a game is either they hit the button or they don't hit the button.

[Stugotz]

I understand that you're making fun of how simplified that is and I do want to play some sound of Dominique Foxworth talking about how analytics have come to make the sport somehow less interesting to watch. But the watch. But when you're talking about you get pressure with four, it just makes a defensive coordinator job very easy after that.

[Greg Cody]

Right.

[Stugotz]

Like it. No matter what, no matter what buttons he's pressing, they're going to look like they're the right buttons that have been pressed.

[Greg Cody]

Can you blame Kansas City coming off back to back Super Bowls if they think to themselves collectively, if we play that team again next week, we're going to win? Okay, it's sports. You have aberrations in results. If the teams played again next week, it wouldn't shock me in the least if the Chiefs beat the Eagles.

[Mike Ryan]

I know but Greg, a lot of teams could say that if the Ravens play the Eagles this week, the Ravens would think they're going to win.

[Billy Gill]

Right?

[Mike Ryan]

The Bills would think they're going to win. The Bengals would think they're going to win.

[Greg Cody]

Well, let's not get.

[Mike Ryan]

They would think it though. Joe Burrow would think it. I mean he would.

[Tony]

I think the tough part is obviously the Eagles did a lot of great additions defensively with drafting a lot of guys. Cooper DeJean, they had Quinion Mitchell, two incredible guys in their secondary. They were missing the Kobe Dean too who is out. Zach Bond was an incredible pickup for them. Their defensive line is great. Fangs was able to do stuff during the watch along that we had Buffalo versus Kansas City. Mina said, hey, he didn't do that bad of a job. Fangs in Miami it was just a lot of injuries, a lot of weird stuff. He didn't have a lot of relationship with Jalen Ramsey. But we look at the chief side and I feel bad saying this because Nick Wright is over our shoulder. They were 120 in one score games this year that easily could have been a team that went 5:12. Right. Like we're looking at a team that if things go the opposite way. This is a laughing stock of a team that doesn't make the playoffs.

[Stugotz]

That is a good place to enrage Nick Wright. I can't even imagine that. Right. In fact, let's go off the air right now. We will prepare. But you just saying to Nick Wright who came on like that, Nick Wright came on here. Yes, you're inciting him. You've. You've lit a fuse that you're saying that Nick Wright, who was saying this is about to be a team for all time, best team ever. When you win three straight, you're saying they could have been 5 and 12.

[Tony]

Could be 5 12.

[Stugotz]

All right, just to be clear, Nick Wright is. This face is going to explode next. Look at him. Look at him. He's ready.

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[Unknown]

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[Stugotz]

Dan.