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Dan Le Batard
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.
Stugotz
Baseball trade deadline. One of your favorite things in baseball happened last night.
Dave
Yep. It happened again for the second time in what, three days?
Stugotz
Uh huh.
Dave
Dave, let me tell you something, all right? You haven't lived if you haven't watched a baseball game. And during the game, a player gets traded. That's fun in and of itself when a guy has to be pulled mid game, but he gets traded to the other team that they're playing.
Mike Ryan
Holy hell, I completely missed it. He didn't actually go into the clubhouse and swap out uniforms, did he? Yeah, no, no, no, no.
Stugotz
He gapped everybody up. No, no, no, no, no.
Mike Ryan
He reemerged in the other dugout.
Dave
Whoa.
Mike Ryan
I'm sorry. Excuse me for missing this. I don't know if you guys heard. It's football season. It's arrived. I don't know who this guy is.
Dave
But I like him.
Mike Ryan
Listen, do tell. I don't. I don't want to get.
Dave
No, I think I did just tell. Okay, I think I did. That was the telling part.
Dan Le Batard
Who are the guys?
Dave
Oh God, I don't even know. I don't care. I just like when he gets traded and then he says goodbye to everybody and then he's on the other team.
Stugotz
Jose Caballero.
Dave
I love it so much. And it happened the other day in between a doubleheader. So he actually then pitched against his former team.
Stugotz
That one was cool.
Dave
Right after. I love it so much. It's such a weird corgi, Major League Baseball. I just. I don't understand, like, how does it happen?
Mike Ryan
Does.
Dave
Does the one general manager of the one team is like, hey, gm, he's like, right downstairs. Make a deal? Like, is that how it actually happens?
Dan Le Batard
What's the icebreaker? Where you stand? Good brunch there? Your middle reliever? What's the deal there?
Dave
Yeah, I mean, like, there's so many other teams you can call to make a deal, but now, you know, I'm going to work with that guy right there.
Stugotz
I feel it. It's the same approach that swingers use, right? You approach someone at a bar and, like, a couple and like, yeah, what's the deal? Like, maybe.
Dave
Is that how they do it?
Stugotz
I think so.
Dan Le Batard
Us 2. You two never been approached by swingers?
Stugotz
Nah, man.
Dan Le Batard
I've been approached once.
Stugotz
What?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. That's exciting. There's a couple at a. At a bar. I went to go get a drink on my own, and they were just chatting me up, and they were really friendly, offered to buy me a drink. I was like, sure, absolutely. And they asked me what I was doing later. Both of them.
Dave
But did you catch on immediately? Because I don't think I would have caught on.
Dan Le Batard
I didn't catch on immediately. No. I caught on after. They asked me basically, to go back to their home.
Mike Ryan
And then the next morning. How did it.
Billy Corben
Yeah, how was it?
Dan Le Batard
You know, they. They put out towels. Oh, do you go.
Billy Corben
Did you go and, like, tell your wife about this?
Stugotz
And.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Billy Corben
So what do we do? Like, you had a.
Dan Le Batard
No, I wasn't considering. No, No, I wasn't considering the offer, but I went back and I was like, be careful with those. Be careful with those people.
Dave
No, but what do we do? Was it for just you to join or you and your wife to join?
Dan Le Batard
They knew that my wife was there.
Dave
Okay, so it's for you and your wife?
Dan Le Batard
I think so.
Dave
Interesting.
Stugotz
Would have been awkward if they said, not you, though.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, just not the other one. You're the spokesman over here.
Stugotz
Talk to you to get to her. But you sit down. Sit this one out, champ. I'm just saying. Don't look at me like that. We're all playing this game. No. Okay. All right.
Dan Le Batard
Did you make up that baseball player's name?
Stugotz
Yeah. What was the guy's name again? Jose Camillo.
Dan Le Batard
Hey, beats me.
Stugotz
Well, come on. Oh, I know he is, but Billy, for those that don't know, who's Jose Caballero?
Billy Corben
He's like a infielder for Tampa.
Stugotz
Was.
Billy Corben
Well, he was. Now he's a Yankee, right? I think he's like a second baseman, shortstop. He's one of these guys.
Mike Ryan
Division rivals everything. I would love it if they came out and took it. I mean, you know, is it implausible that the pitcher would throw at his. His pals from earlier in the day?
Dave
You traded me.
Stugotz
Do you have to prove to your new teammates, hey, I'm down with this new cause?
Dave
Oh, all right.
Mike Ryan
I definitely am chippy enough that I would definitely. You just traded me. Well, now I'm going to make you miss me by throwing one at your.
Stugotz
Head right in your ear. Dave, if you were in the clubhouse, the new clubhouse, and the new guy walks in, do you haze him immediately?
Mike Ryan
Well, not in the short term, because you want to get the dirt on the guys in the other clubhouse right there.
Stugotz
Easy on them. Like, hey, man, welcome. Can I get you a drink or something? We got you here again.
Dave
It sounds like swingers, but what do you do? Are you like. Are you like, good sportsmanship?
Stugotz
Where.
Dave
Nah, I'm not gonna tell you about. You know, that's. That's in the past.
Stugotz
You know, you guys saw this in, in college football. There's a kid from Memphis who was. He knew he was done. He was gonna transfer. They're playing against UTSA. He DMs the quarterback for UTSA. All of the defensive coverages, he tells them, like, number zero. Number zero is dealing with a hamstring injury.
Mike Ryan
That's what I'm talking about.
Stugotz
Like, he gave him everything. But it's not like he had transferred. He still was on Memphis for the game. It's just. He knew, like, this is the last game. I'm not going to be here next year.
Dan Le Batard
That's real bad.
Dave
That sucks.
Mike Ryan
I can't imagine that there's that much to. To tell the other team in baseball like this. I mean, although, I mean, they have the same information about where to pitch a guy and everything else. But football, Touche.
Dave
I mean, it's a very.
Mike Ryan
But football, definitely. If you ask different guys, they'll tell you different things. Like bringing in the guy who just got cut by the other team doesn't have that much value. But other guys say, oh, oh, yes. Immensely valuable to hear what the other locker room is talking about.
Dave
I Love it. I got so many messages last night on Twitter Zas with the video attached. That's like your favorite thing in all of sports. I love it. It's a quirky thing.
Stugotz
It is a funny thing because obviously it's happened. People know it happens, but you're almost like Christopher Columbus. This land already existed, but you put your flag on it, so now it's yours. And so now every time that happens, everyone will immediately think of you.
Dave
Yeah. I love it. I love it so much.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
I do have a baseball related question.
Stugotz
Sure.
Dan Le Batard
When are they playing this game at Bristol Motor Speedway? I feel like they've been advertising this thing for a month. I see the merch and everyone keeps tagging me because I'm obviously a big left turns guy. But when are they playing this game? They haven't played it yet. I was told yes, Roy was locked in a Braves Reds. Two teams scored eight runs each in the eighth inning. That seems like an electric game. I'm like, wow, they played it at Bristol Motor Speedway. He was like, nope. When is this game happening?
Stugotz
Saturday.
Dan Le Batard
So they're just going, Are they in Cincinnati now? Flying to Bristol Motor Speedway.
Stugotz
And then I thought it was a driving distance.
Dave
It's not driving distance.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. I mean, Cincinnati's close.
Stugotz
Yeah. I think that's the point of doing it there. Right. Is because.
Dan Le Batard
But they're doing it in the middle of the series. That's inconvenient.
Stugotz
Give it some pomp and circumstance, man.
Dan Le Batard
Does it do anything for you, the baseball at a track?
Stugotz
Out of curiosity, I wonder about the seating. Right. Because the bleachers or the stands, whatever, are very far from the infield. And the infield is where they put the diamond. The diamond is literally entirely encapsed in the infield.
Dan Le Batard
I've seen the setup. The home plate is hugging a part of the grandstand and then there's going to be seats that are way further away and they have an outfield wall that they build before that.
Mike Ryan
It probably can't be any worse than the LA Coliseum was where the Dodgers actually played in their first couple of years when they moved out to la. I went to that exhibition game against the Red Sox when they played a couple. Kareem Abdul Jabbar somehow got off the hook for this one. You always see the, you know, the celebrity pitches he had. I mean, among the very worst. I mean, way down there with some of the worst you've ever seen. And somehow he got a complete pass on this. And I talked to him about it once and I said, didn't you just not just embarrass yourself, but the entire sport of basketball with that, with that throw. And he said, I saw Pamela Anderson walk behind home plate as I threw the ball. So I gave him a pass on it.
Dave
Speaking of Pamela Anderson, you see these reviews?
Stugotz
The reviews are on fire. Gun reviews are on fire, baby.
Dave
Really very high scores. Yes. Dave, you know Rotten Tomatoes. That's the gospel. All right, if they tell you it's a good movie, gospel, it's a good movie. 90% no. Certified fresh Naked Gun.
Stugotz
Yeah. What about the audience?
Dave
86.
Stugotz
86.
Mike Ryan
This is like the discussion that you guys were having a couple of days ago about misjudging players as they entered the league. I misjudged this. If, if this ends up being a funny movie, I will be stunned because I, cynical Dave, expected this to be a bum picture.
Dan Le Batard
I feel like Seth MacFarlane is the perfect guy.
Stugotz
Of course he's a guy. It's clear how much he was influenced by Airplane and those types of movies that came out, those parody movies of the 80s. It's all through Family Guy. It's in Ted, it's in everything. A million the Ways to Die in the West. Like all of them have that same sensibility. So he's perfect. And I talked about this. I think we were sitting outside because guess what, guys, Another seal of approval. Billy Corbin saw it. Two thumbs up.
Dave
Is he usually. I mean, obviously he's a filmmaker, but like, is he usually tough on stuff like that?
Stugotz
You know, I trust Billy Corbin, okay? He comes from that world.
Dave
I could see him being tough on movies.
Stugotz
I could see him be tough on movies too. Right? But the point is, like I said I was talking about the other day, Leslie Nielsen was a dramatic actor before he did Airplane. The reason he was cast in Airplanes.
Dave
I don't think I knew that they.
Stugotz
Wanted someone who could deliver deadpan, serious lines like a dramatic actor. They didn't want anyone goofy. And it was so funny that it just literally launched a whole career in comedy of doing these type of roles. And Billy was the one that told me the Zucker Brothers was they would cast their mom in bit parts in every movie. And she was saying, she looked at Leslie Nielsen and said, my boys ruined that man's career cuz he was a dramatic actor. And after that, he'll never be able.
Dave
To be in a drama again.
Stugotz
He'll never be able to be in a drama again. And so Leslie Nielsen is that guy who's like, he hasn't really been in any comedies. He had that one cameo role in Les Life's Too Short. A one cameo role in Atlanta. But other than that, all of his roles are very serious roles or action roles, but not come.
Mike Ryan
Neeson's made basically the same picture about 27 times over the last year.
Stugotz
They're all different. Don't you dare say that. I'm sorry. I watch Ice Road and I watch Taken and I watch Memory and I watch Blacklight and they're all different movies.
Mike Ryan
Is that the one Ice. What? Is that the one? Ice Road when he fights the dogs. No, there's one where he has a wages war.
Dave
The gray.
Stugotz
Cold pursuit. Unknown.
Dan Le Batard
This guy loves a winner, huh?
Stugotz
This guy, man, look. Oh, yeah, it's a good point. All these movies are. No, you've gone too far. I watched A Walk through the Tombstones the other day.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, you might have made that movie up, man.
Stugotz
Oh, that's a game to play. Liam Neeson, movie or not made up.
Dave
I just like, I like the idea. So it seems like Naked Gun is going to be a huge hit.
Stugotz
I hope so.
Dave
At what point were, you know, the casting directors, they got the screenplay, they're figuring out who to cast and just someone all of a sudden says, you know who I think should be the lead female? Pamela Anderson.
Dan Le Batard
I think that's in line with the old franchise because it's Priscilla Presley, right. And Nicole Smith. Yeah, I feel like that that's actually bang on casting.
Dave
I mean, I think it's great. I think I. I wouldn't be as interested in whoever the lead female is in the movie. It's a Pamela Anderson, like, I guess.
Dan Le Batard
You think it's gonna be a hit? I'm sorry, Dave. You think it's going to be a hit Just based off of the. The critical reviews. It's a tough time for comedies at the box office right now. There's loads of competition. Superman still going strong. Fantastic Four is out there.
Dave
Okay, so a hit means is it gonna make money? That's what we're talking about.
Dan Le Batard
That's what. And we talked about how studios are watching this one to see if they want to take.
Dave
Yeah, you know, I think so. I think it is gonna be a hit.
Dan Le Batard
He thinks it.
Dave
Well, yeah, because it's. It's a franchise that most people know of. Naked Gun, always a new Naked Gun movie. And people are really enjoying it. And I know Liam Neeson. Oh, Pamela Anderson. Yeah, I think it's gonna be.
Mike Ryan
The fact that those two are now dating is. Can only help matters. Right. And by the way, who should, if not Pamela Anderson. It feels like it needs to be age appropriate. Neeson's not a young fella if you put him in with a 30 year.
Dan Le Batard
Old difference there, 70 and 58, I think.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, it's not bad.
Dave
15 years. 15 years.
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Dan Le Batard
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Dave
It's a good algorithm. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
Mike Ryan
I do love amin what you said about casting Leslie Nielsen. I'm convinced if you go back and watch Starship Troopers that Caspar Van Dien was not let in on the fact that it was supposed to be a satire. Much like if you watch Flash Gordon, the guy who played flash Gordon from 1981. I think everybody was in on it. Like this is supposed to be a goof. But don't tell the lead, right? Let him take it real seriously because he's a terrible actor and that will help what we're trying to do here.
Stugotz
Ted too. Another Ted too reference. The guy from Flash Gordon was in Ted too, but fully embracing at that point. The absurdity of it all. But yeah, absolutely. Caspar Van Dien thought he was making like Star Wars.
Mike Ryan
That's right.
Stugotz
He really was throwing himself.
Mike Ryan
Him and Denise Richards.
Dave
Why? Why? When they're being asked about, I think it was on the Today show, Liam Neeson and Pamela Anderson. Are you guys a couple? Are you guys dating? Like, Liam Neeson was so coy about it. If I was dating Pamela Anderson, I'm telling everybody, like, why would I not admit to dating Pamela Anderson? What is that?
Dan Le Batard
Well, it made me think that maybe they did date, but they aren't and.
Dave
They'Ve already broken up.
Dan Le Batard
Well, this is. It was rumored. It was rumored, I think while they were shooting, but I think now it is it being used to market the movie a little bit. We're talking about it.
Stugotz
Well done. You win, guys. You did it.
Mike Ryan
Well, this rival. Do you say Zaz, since you seem to be the most enthusiastic about this release, will it rate in your top five comedies of the 21st century?
Dave
Oh, I mean I got to think about it. I already know it's, you know, my favorite comedies. Forgetting Sarah Marshall, probably my favorite 40 year old virgin. Probably my second favorite aft knocked up. Love knocked up. After those then it's up for a discussion.
Dan Le Batard
Tropic Thunder.
Dave
Yeah, Tropic Thunder is great. But I do I have it in my top five. Maybe.
Mike Ryan
Maybe self interviewing Zaz, Is it in my top five? Maybe he's not sure. Yeah, the respondent wasn't sure of what the questioner was asking. Yeah, you left MacGruber off. Don't. Don't forget MacGruber.
Dave
Never seen MacGruber.
Mike Ryan
Oh, wow.
Dave
Never seen.
Dan Le Batard
Was great.
Dave
Yeah, never seen it.
Dan Le Batard
Great Chris Jericho appearance.
Dave
Really?
Dan Le Batard
A lot of wrestler cameos in that one.
Dave
Yeah. So Naked Gun's got a chance. He's got it. I know. People are saying, oh, what about the Hangover? Most overrated movie ever.
Mike Ryan
I completely agree with you about that. Zach Galifianakis makes it. It's. It's a little unsettling in places too.
Dave
Like, it doesn't mean that it's not funny. It's very funny.
Mike Ryan
It's got some great stuff in it.
Dave
It is overrated movie.
Mike Ryan
It is definitely overrated. Underrated, as it turns out, is. Is Talladega Nights.
Dave
Oh, it's a very funny movie. Very funny.
Dan Le Batard
Stepbrothers.
Dave
Anchorman. Anchorman. Probably gets in my top five. Mm, yeah.
Stugotz
Not like a mean crack dealer. Like a nice one. Like, hey, like, buy some crack. I love that movie. Hey, do you guys want to play a game? It's called real Liam Neeson movie or made up title? Wow, you already did that Already got it. All right, the game is pretty simple.
Dave
I'm gonna say it is double dare.
Stugotz
Titles of some movies. Some of them are made up. Some of them are real. We'll start with a softball. Honest Thief. Is it a real Liam Neeson movie or is it made up?
Dave
I'm gonna go real.
Mike Ryan
You said it was a softball. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go against. I'm gonna say fake.
Dan Le Batard
I think it's real.
Stugotz
Tony.
Dan Le Batard
I hope it's real.
Stugotz
Billy.
Billy Corben
Real.
Stugotz
Roy, you already know. Roy knows it's a real movie. Honesty. It's a great. He's a bank robber, and then he stops bank robbing, never gets caught. But then he meets a woman. And when he meets a woman, one last job. One last.
Dan Le Batard
One last job.
Dave
Why is that, Zaz? We know what women love, specifically. Wives.
Stugotz
Wives. And it's his. It is his fiance. So close.
Dan Le Batard
Dazzlo Theory keeps. Just keeps making up green.
Dave
Tell me what I'm wrong. Tell me when I'm wrong. We know what wives love.
Stugotz
All right, here we go. Let's ratchet up here. Made in Japan. Made in Japan. Is it a real Liam Neeson movie or is it a fake?
Dave
Fake.
Mike Ryan
The diabolical way to go here would be to float real movie titles, and then whether or not Neeson appears in that movie as he did in the early 80s underrated gem the Bounty. The remake of Mutiny on the Bounty. I'm going to go fake.
Stugotz
Fake.
Dan Le Batard
I'm going to go real.
Stugotz
Real.
Dan Le Batard
Fake.
Stugotz
Fake. Really?
Billy Corben
I said fake before.
Stugotz
Fake. Fake. It is fake. He is in a movie called Made in Italy.
Dan Le Batard
That's what I was thinking of. Not made in the Band.
Billy Corben
Made in Japan is also a movie from 2015. So Dave's game is kind of what you're accidentally playing here.
Stugotz
Cold Storage. Is he in a movie called Cold Storage?
Dave
I'm going fake. I think he's in a movie called Cold Something, but it's not Storage. Yes.
Mike Ryan
Parking my car in the same garage as.
Stugotz
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
I think he loves the winner, but I'm gonna say this is fake.
Stugotz
Uh huh.
Dave
Fake.
Billy Corben
Billy, I go real.
Stugotz
Okay, Roy.
Dan Le Batard
No. This is fake.
Mike Ryan
Cold Storage.
Stugotz
Sorry guys. Cold Storage is a really amazing movie.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, Cold Storage and Copa Suit.
Stugotz
Wow. Cold storage was 2015. 2025. Excuse me, 2025.
Dan Le Batard
What's the synopsis for Cold Storage?
Stugotz
Synopsis for Cold Storage. Liam Neeson, Georgina Campbell, blah blah blah. The thriller movie directed by Johnny Campbell. I guess it's not out yet.
Dave
Well, that's a trick question.
Dan Le Batard
You tricked me, Cole.
Stugotz
Stories. Two young employees of a self storage company built on the site of an old US military base had their wildest night shift ever when a parasitic fungus escapes. And you said he makes movies over and over.
Dan Le Batard
It's like the thing a little bit.
Stugotz
All right, next one. The commuter.
Dave
Oh, that's real.
Stugotz
The commuter.
Dave
That's taken on a train.
Stugotz
The commuter.
Mike Ryan
I'm. I'm gonna go fake again here.
Dan Le Batard
I've seen it. It's real.
Dave
I've seen it too.
Stugotz
Kind of give it away.
Dan Le Batard
That's gonna. I fold.
Billy Corben
I gotta say real after.
Stugotz
After being contacted by a mysterious stranger, Michael is forced to uncover the identity of a hidden passenger on the train before the last stop.
Dan Le Batard
Sasko movie.
Dave
It is a good movie. That's big. If we're doing big movie. Not been with that's big movie.
Stugotz
Yep.
Mike Ryan
Agreed.
Dave
Verifar Miga is the stranger who approaches him. I like her.
Stugotz
Yes. That's all right.
Dave
I like her. My boy's locked in, dude.
Stugotz
Marlo. Marlo. A movie named Marlo. Is that a real movies as or is it a made up title?
Dave
I think Liam Neeson would look at a script of a movie called Marlo and say, I'm not even reading this.
Mike Ryan
Wasn't Philip Marlowe a PI? A fictional PI does that?
Stugotz
Yes, that is a.
Mike Ryan
So did he fill the role once? Filled By, I think, Lee Horsley in the 80s.
Stugotz
Well done.
Mike Ryan
I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say he did not fill that role.
Stugotz
Okay. Tony. Fake Mike.
Dan Le Batard
I'm gonna say real. I'm guessing, though, Billy.
Billy Corben
I'll go real.
Stugotz
Real. It is a real movie. And he did play Philip Marlowe. A gripping noir crime thriller set in late 1930s movie. Bay City centers around a brooding down on his luck detective. And you said he plays the same role.
Mike Ryan
Why would Liam Neeson be in that role? That seems weird.
Stugotz
And that has been real or fake Liam Neeson movie. That's right. I made up only one of them.
Mike Ryan
That was well done.
Dave
Can I just add, by the way, going off the theme there, the double dare theme, There were fewer things that were more exciting when you were a child than when the double dare, the competition at the end of the show were to come on television.
Dan Le Batard
When Mark Summers says, on your mark, you know it's about to get started.
Dave
Few things were more exciting than that.
Stugotz
I never liked how that guy dressed.
Dan Le Batard
Mark Summers.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Pick it up with a 90s pal.
Stugotz
He was. He was just trying to be cool. And I'm like, yo, man, you're a grown man. Like, dress like a grown man or get someone younger in the role.
Billy Corben
What?
Dan Le Batard
Huh? A suit jacket, pair of blue jeans, and a pair of sneakers.
Dave
I don't like it.
Dan Le Batard
He just wanted to be Jerry Seinfeld.
Stugotz
Yeah. I don't like it.
Dave
No.
Dan Le Batard
Jerry Seinfeld wanted to be Mark Summers.
Billy Corben
Yeah.
Stugotz
Wow.
Dave
That's an accusation.
Dan Le Batard
He swagger. Jacked him. Put it on the poll. Did Jerry Seinfeld swagger Jack Mark Summers?
Stugotz
Preposterous.
Mike Ryan
I mean, you do touch on something that Mina Kimes just put out on social media earlier this week. Her husband, I guess, wrote a piece about this. And it really is getting to the place that her husband has decided he's not gonna wear the big jeans.
Dave
What'd he say?
Mike Ryan
Yeah, he's out on the big jeans.
Dan Le Batard
He just said it. What's that? He just said it. I'm not doing the big jeans either.
Mike Ryan
I'm not going to do them either. If this. If fashion trends dictate that it's time for cools to go back to the bigger jeans, I'm gonna sit it out now. I've reached the station in Life, the catch 22 that confronts all fellas, which is, which way are you gonna go if you try to keep up with the trends, you guys, Roy will look at me, point at me and laugh and be like, ha, look at those Jeans. He looks like a jackass in them. But if I abide by my fashions from that I started in 95, then I look like, you know, I'm something out of a museum. Like. Like I think I'm Samson. Like, I can't. I can't change what I got going for the last 25 years.
Stugotz
You know, the crazy thing is there has to be a happy medium, right? Or else you're going to wear something that sooner or later will come back and become in style.
Mike Ryan
That's what I'm hoping for. That's where I've gotten to.
Stugotz
So to that note, I have a pair of. I have a pair of jorts, and I have a pair of cargo camo.
Dan Le Batard
Shorts that you're holding on to.
Stugotz
I was holding on.
Dave
Shorts are back, buddy.
Stugotz
I know.
Dan Le Batard
Shorts are back.
Stugotz
I know.
Dan Le Batard
Camo shorts. We still got a little ways to go.
Stugotz
Camo, camo, cargo.
Dave
I used to love camofa joints.
Stugotz
Car. Exactly.
Dan Le Batard
We got another 10 years of those.
Stugotz
They're sitting, they're waiting, biding their time in the back of my closet.
Dan Le Batard
2030, 2032. We're back. I got a pair, too. Just keep holding. The Wiz Khalifa's was really funny. You wear them with bright shoes, of course.
Stugotz
Like yellow shoes.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, yellow shoes. You could wear it into the club.
Mike Ryan
Nobody else could.
Dan Le Batard
Just him. You're just describing Wiz Khalifa. It's crazy.
Stugotz
But is there a style or a fashion sense that is timeless? That's the question.
Mike Ryan
Well, 19th century fancy man Beau Brummel said that a well dressed man's clothes go unnoticed. That's what I'm shooting for.
Stugotz
Say it again in a 19th century voice.
Mike Ryan
Babramo. Oh, I thought you were gonna. You were gonna say Pittsburgh accent.
Dan Le Batard
19Th century Pittsburgh accent.
Mike Ryan
I don't have that kind of range. What does a 19th century accent even sound like? I can do mid century.
Dan Le Batard
I can do mid century.
Mike Ryan
I can do that. Like, look, fella, what you wanna do is you want your dungarees to look just right smart. You're the bee's knees.
Dave
Tip top.
Mike Ryan
I can't do. I can't go back two centuries at this.
Dan Le Batard
Good enough.
Stugotz
Yeah. So I tried. Now I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to wear jeans that aren't skinny and they're not baggy. And I'm like, oh, this is hard, man. And also, it's hard to find them. Have you found that? Like, I've got some jeans that are like, oh, these fit perfectly. And then, you know, do wear and tear I'm like, oh, well, I gotta get a new pair. And it's like, doesn't exist. Don LeBatard.
Dan Le Batard
We're gonna win Stugats. We're gonna win.
Dave
They're annoying.
Stugotz
They're quote an old reference.
Dave
This is the Dan lebatar show with the st ads.
Mike Ryan
I have not put on. This is true. I'm proud. I don't know. Well, I don't know how proud I am, but it's a statement of fact. I've not put on a pair of jeans since co. Proper jeans. Denim jeans. Like, what you have on Blue denim jeans. I've not worn since I just got out. I just got out of wearing them and never went back.
Dave
I rarely wear jeans anymore either, but I can't say I haven't worn jeans since.
Stugotz
COVID Jeans are just dead. Do you guys. That's it.
Mike Ryan
I don't. I may go back.
Dave
I may stay out of my rotation.
Dan Le Batard
I haven't worn jeans, and I can't.
Stugotz
Remember when are jeans out.
Dan Le Batard
Jeans are still in. Jeans are very, very in still. Everybody wants jeans. I had one pair of jeans that I loved that I tried to avoid washing, really, because I didn't want them to be ruined and they bit the dust and, like, last World cup, and I haven't worn jeans since. So. Yeah, World Cup, Qatar.
Billy Corben
In fairness, I don't know if this is the group to be asking if that's also true. That's very true.
Dan Le Batard
Big jeans are all the way in, by the way.
Dave
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
So I know. I have just in case you guys are asking.
Stugotz
My back to school shopping happened last.
Dave
Weekend, and you're like, do you got. You want these?
Stugotz
Yeah. I felt like my parents all over again. Like, wait a second.
Dan Le Batard
This is.
Stugotz
This is weird.
Dan Le Batard
Miami is also a really difficult city for jeans.
Billy Corben
Jeans are really uncomfortable.
Dan Le Batard
Super.
Stugotz
Yeah, I could see how that. That would be it.
Dan Le Batard
I have, like, greenhouse gases in my pants.
Stugotz
A lot of methane happening.
Dan Le Batard
No, it's just, like, swampy.
Stugotz
Okay. You know, greenhouse gas.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm not farting all that much.
Stugotz
That's what it sounded like.
Dan Le Batard
No, it's just, like, fart. You wear jeans in South Florida during the summer, you're going to have an ecosystem in your pants.
Stugotz
Hey. Oh, to some people, that's. You pay extra for that, or I.
Dan Le Batard
Might just be happy to see you.
Stugotz
There you go, Billy. Hey. Sampson's going to a Marlins game. Is this his first Marlins game since he left?
Billy Corben
He announced on Twitter that he's going to the Marlins game on Sunday. And that this is the first time he's been there since 2017, when he sold the team.
Dave
Will he sit in the stands or will he be in, like, a suite?
Billy Corben
Very unclear. Very unclear. Because it's like Jack McKeon Day. They're inaugurating him into the Marlins hall of Fame. There's a Jack McKeon bobblehead.
Dave
It's the Yankees.
Stugotz
Definitely a sweet.
Billy Corben
So he's going to. Well, definitely the way that it was kind of put out there led to many questions because there will be people honoring, presumably, Jack McKeon. But I don't think things ended in a way in which he will be on the field honoring Jack McKeon. So then does he buy tickets? Is he sitting, you know, right behind home plate?
Dave
Now, when you say in a way it ended in a way, it ended obviously between him and the team, or did something happen with him and McKeon?
Billy Corben
No, no, no. Him and the team. Well, and him and Jeter, famously. But Jeter also has been long gone. But I don't know how things are with him and Bruce Sherman. But it was also, like, the way that it was put out there. I was kind of wondering, like, is he anticipating some sort of celebratory welcome amongst the fans?
Stugotz
So the way it typically works. Right. I've been to a couple of these in Phoenix. They've honored Shawn Marion and Amari Stoudemire recently. And they get everyone out there, and then there's a suite. So for most of the game, everyone's just in the suite, and then we do the halftime thing, and the main guys sit on the court and all that and take the pictures and have the speeches and then back to the suite. And that's also where the family members are all and all that. I would imagine if they're honoring Jackie McKeon, that Sampson would be one of the people seated on the field. Now, what we might have is the same situation as what happened in Chicago when they did their ring of Honor for the 96 Bulls, and Jerry Krause's widow was there, and, you know, they announced everyone, and there's, you know, Bill Lennington, there's Representative Phil Jackson, his son Sonny Jackson or whatever. Or was it.
Dave
I think you got it. Sonny Jackson. Yeah.
Stugotz
You got Fredro. I don't know. And then representing the late Jerry Krause. Susan Krause. But they never got to Susan Krause. Represent the late Jerry Krause. Boo. It just went crazy.
Mike Ryan
It was very sad.
Stugotz
So it was awful because she was.
Dave
Crying in the scene.
Stugotz
Yeah, of course. Well, I mean, it's two things. Number one, obviously, she's not a public person, so any sort of reaction at all, regardless of whether it was directed her or her husband.
Dave
But he's dead, and he was behind six titles.
Stugotz
That's what I'm saying. That's the harder part. It's like they're booing my dead husband. Right, that part.
Dave
Who helped build six titles.
Stugotz
The most successful era in sports in that city, which they have not come.
Dave
Close to ever again in any sport.
Mike Ryan
Somebody said it to me 90 seconds after I walked in the door here yesterday, meeting people, and for some reason that came up was, if Jordan. Had there been social media in Jordan's prime, would there be a different. Would we think less of him than we do currently? Right. It kind of makes sense. I don't know how that came up, literally, as I walked in the door here.
Stugotz
Welcome to Meadowlark Media, buddy. That's how we do.
Mike Ryan
But it would be bad. I mean, the funniest story in Last Dance is when Dennis Rodman, in the middle of the finals, ditches to.
Stugotz
Yeah. Goes to Vegas.
Mike Ryan
Goes to Vegas. And then Phil Jackson. And then Phil Jackson's like, well, we got to get the worm back from Vegas. And Michael Jordan's like, I got it, coach. Like, Mike, you're our best player. You can't go like Cassari. I'm at the airport, 30,000ft in the sky.
Dave
Can't hear you. Come see it.
Stugotz
A few. Oh, man. Theater of the mind.
Dave
So you think that, like, Samson's not gonna be announced, though?
Dan Le Batard
I have an answer on where he's gonna be sitting. He is indeed an invited guest of Jack McKeon. And Jack McKeon gets to fill out that suite as the luminaries should. And Sampson will be in that suite.
Stugotz
Are there gonna be any speeches, though? That's my thing. Because typically when they have the speeches, there are people out there on the.
Billy Corben
It's not a shot. They give him a microphone.
Dave
When's the last time we seen Jack McKeon publicly? I feel like I have not seen him publicly in many years.
Dan Le Batard
I interviewed him with David Samp and let me tell you, early days of Zoom with Jack McKeon.
Stugotz
He knew how to work at Zoom.
Dan Le Batard
No. Did he know how to work a Zoom? No one did.
Dave
No one was five years.
Dan Le Batard
He was chomping the cigar, for sure. People forget the early days of pandemic content creation. Zoom really wasn't industry standard.
Stugotz
Skype was Skype. Shout out to Skype, man.
Dan Le Batard
Skype was dropped the ball.
Stugotz
The biggest backdrop in the history of, well, I guess Blockbuster.
Dan Le Batard
You know why? Because it was very difficult. Skype, it wasn't user friendly.
Stugotz
It was awful.
Dan Le Batard
And oh my God, Bob Costas and Skype don't even. He didn't even have Internet.
Dave
You know, old Jack McKeon is these days.
Stugotz
How old is he?
Dan Le Batard
90S?
Dave
94.
Billy Corben
I was so worried when they announced this and they said Jack McKean's gonna be the third person induct. I'm like, Jack Machine should be the first and we should do it opening week because at 94 versus Conine.
Dave
Yeah, but like in Leland.
Billy Corben
But are we going to play the game where we're going to like gamble on April to August there? Like, I would have been like, April. Let's just make sure we get Jack in there.
Dave
Yeah. Tell you what though, The. The atmosphere for Leland was. Was such a disgrace. It was really embarrassing. Yeah. Just because, like it was a random game. I mean, maybe it was a weekend game, but like there was no one there. And he's Jim Leland. You know, this weekend they're playing the Yankees. I would imagine it's going to be a really good crowd, but that's what.
Stugotz
I don't like because there are so many New York transplants down here. You don't want that they. That you honor this guy, to be filled with people, fans for the other.
Dave
You think they'll boo him because you. You beat us in the World Series?
Billy Corben
I mean, they'll be Miami Yankees fans, so like, they'll probably cheer.
Dave
I think he'll get a really nice reception. But like Leland, it was an embarrassment.
Stugotz
I hope. I hope so because. Well, then again, I don't know. He's 94. Does he care? Like, when you read there's an age where you just don't care anymore.
Billy Corben
What does that mean?
Stugotz
Well, is there an age where you don't.
Dan Le Batard
Well, you guys are kind of there now with the gene things.
Stugotz
Yeah. See, there you go.
Mike Ryan
Who is, if I may ask, is it Jimmy Leland is your greatest legend with the Marlins. The.
Stugotz
The buckos great skipper comfortable there calling him Jimmy Lehman. It's James Leland to you, sir.
Mike Ryan
I'm sorry? Well, he's one of those guys who really benefit. He's one of the great examples out there, along with Angela Lansbury, in a relatively short list of like looking a certain way when you're 38 and then you get to ride that for the next half century. It ends up being a gift. Right, but who.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, really to answer your question. McKeon is more beloved down here than Jim Leland. Really? Yes.
Mike Ryan
But who? Okay, well then among the players, who is the face of the Marlins of over the last 30 years?
Dan Le Batard
The guy that's nicknamed Mr. Marlin is Jeff Conan. He's played for a lot of different.
Dave
Teams but was on both World Series teams in the Marlins.
Dan Le Batard
That's his claim to Mr. Marlin.
Mike Ryan
The connection, the spiritual connection, and it's not necessarily a great one, is that the Marlins in their early days tried to gain fandom locally by buying a title. Everybody remembers infamously when they did that. It's kind of what the Rams did five years ago. There is no buzz. As somebody who is in Los Angeles and likes to talk about pro football a lot, very rarely is the conversation about the Rams or the Chargers really in la it has not worked necessarily that it doesn't command the attention. The Lakers are still bigger. The Dodgers are still bigger in AC Raiders.
Stugotz
Raiders are bigger in LA than either the Rams or the Chargers.
Mike Ryan
I feel like that's kind of dissipating now a little bit. I don't hear as much as you did a decade ago. It was clear that that was L A S team.
Dave
They still follow a team that's not even in their state, huh?
Stugotz
Yeah, Cities away.
Dave
Yeah, but still it's not their state.
Stugotz
But like it's if they just moved, right? Like there's people in Oakland who are still Raiders fans even though they're in a different state. But think about being in a city you are two cities removed. It'd be like if the Kings move, the Sacramento Kings move and people in Kansas City are like, I still follow them though.
Dave
Yeah, that's weird.
Stugotz
It is weird.
Mike Ryan
It's weird. I think it shows low self esteem if you continue to root for a team that bailed on you, you know, you got dumped. Like, hey, I just want my ex wife and her new husband who she left me for, to make it. I'm rooting for those two kids. Why? Why would you cheer for them? They dumped you.
Stugotz
Yeah, well, they didn't dump you. She dumped you. And then he.
Mike Ryan
Well, because they met Mike at the bar and took him home with him.
Stugotz
The. Yeah, but Samson, if he's on, first of all, he has to have security, right?
Dave
No, no, please, Samson.
Stugotz
You got Samson being able to walk the concourse and no one.
Dave
Easily, easily, easily.
Stugotz
He's been a costly person.
Dave
You have people, you have.
Dan Le Batard
You have people caring that much at Marlins games, like, oh, there's David Sampson.
Billy Corben
Let me get a piece of he's.
Dave
Been gone for a really long time.
Billy Corben
And the shows, like, tried to normalize him.
Stugotz
Have we. But have we been successful?
Billy Corben
No, to an extent.
Dan Le Batard
I think I do think we've helped.
Dave
Well, okay, so how about this? Like you're going to have. What are the. What's the one thing that people down here, if they really hate Sampson, they really hate him about? It's the stadium.
Dan Le Batard
Stadium.
Dave
So people who are at the stadium, enjoying the stadium are gonna be mad at the guy who got them the stage?
Billy Corben
Well, no, it's also all the trades.
Dave
Okay, but also.
Billy Corben
But he's also, let's be real, not gonna be amongst the people. He's not gonna be in the concourse. He's gonna be sweet level and he's not gonna interact with the actual fan.
Dave
But also, knowing what we know now about this current ownership and Bruce Sherman, the ownership Sampson was a part of, won a World Series and had a bunch of competitive years after 2003, this ownership now you would love to have.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, they.
Billy Corben
I would argue this Marlins ownership groups made the playoffs twice and his only made it once.
Dave
Oh, but come on. I mean, the one time with COVID Give me a break, all right? That was nonsense.
Billy Corben
I mean, your Heat team playoffs with COVID and you walk around with a 50 championship banner.
Dave
Really? It's a 50 game schedule. That's not baseball. I'm sorry. Give me a break.
Mike Ryan
Hey, Mike, my friend, in fashion, what is the best. What generation of Marlins getups ranks number one for dealers?
Dave
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Deal.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
Cuervo.
Dan Le Batard
What are you doing here? Cuervo. Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up. Well, I do know that to be true. But even during the and reads like Cuervo, I think he could lay out especially for one of our grape partners.
Stugotz
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
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Stugotz
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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Local Hour: Real or Fake Liam Neeson Movies
Release Date: August 1, 2025
Timestamp: [01:35] – [04:23]
The episode kicks off with Stugotz and Dave expressing their excitement over recent events in Major League Baseball’s trade deadline. They focus on the unexpected and entertaining move of Jose Caballero, a player who was traded from the Tampa team to the Yankees. Dave enthusiastically shares, “I love it so much. It’s a quirky thing in all of sports. I just don’t understand, like, how does it happen?” [02:35]. The hosts delve into the logistics behind such trades, pondering whether general managers coordinate these moves directly, with Dan Le Batard humorously questioning, “What’s the icebreaker? Where you stand? Good brunch there? Your middle reliever? What’s the deal there?” [03:11].
Timestamp: [02:03] – [03:33]
A key point of discussion revolves around the spectacle of a player being traded during an active game. Mike Ryan amusingly notes his confusion over whether Caballero physically swapped uniforms on the field, to which Dave confirms that Caballero “gapped everybody up” and continued to play against his former team [02:20]. This segment underscores the unpredictable and entertaining nature of sports trades.
Timestamp: [07:18] – [22:50]
Transitioning from sports, the hosts introduce an engaging game segment titled “Real or Fake Liam Neeson Movies.” Stugotz leads the game, presenting movie titles and challenging Dave, Mike Ryan, and Dan Le Batard to determine their authenticity. For instance:
Honest Thief: Stugotz describes it as a film where Neeson plays a bank robber who attempts one last job after meeting a woman. Billy Corben confirms it’s a real movie [19:50].
Made in Japan: The trio debates its legitimacy, ultimately revealing it’s a fabricated title [20:31].
This segment not only adds a fun trivia element but also showcases the hosts' knowledge and banter about the film industry.
Timestamp: [09:14] – [13:22]
The conversation shifts to movie ratings, specifically on Rotten Tomatoes, where Stugotz mentions that "gun reviews are on fire." Dave and Stugotz discuss the critical reception of comedies like the upcoming Naked Gun reboot, with Stugotz highlighting director Seth MacFarlane’s influence and comedic style. Dave expresses optimism, stating, “I know it’s a franchise that most people know of. Naked Gun, always a new Naked Gun movie. And people are really enjoying it” [13:11]. They also touch upon other comedies such as Tropic Thunder, Anchorman, and Talladega Nights, debating their places in modern cinema.
Timestamp: [17:12] – [29:46]
The hosts segue into a lively discussion about contemporary fashion trends, focusing on the fluctuating popularity of jeans and shorts. Mike Ryan reminisces about avoiding “big jeans,” sharing his struggle to find a comfortable fit that isn’t too tight or too baggy: “I’m trying to wear jeans that aren’t skinny and they’re not baggy. And I’m like, oh, this is hard, man” [27:29]. Stugotz adds humor by showcasing his own collection of "jorts" and cargo shorts, pondering whether there’s a timeless fashion sense: “But is there a style or a fashion sense that is timeless? That’s the question” [26:42].
Dan Le Batard jokes about the impracticality of wearing jeans in South Florida’s humid climate, adding a light-hearted touch to the conversation: “You wear jeans in South Florida during the summer, you’re going to have an ecosystem in your pants” [29:34].
Timestamp: [29:46] – [39:58]
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing Samson’s attendance at a Miami Marlins game to honor the legendary skipper Jack McKeon. Billy Corben informs listeners that Samson will be attending his first Marlins game since 2017, coinciding with Jack McKeon’s induction into the Marlins Hall of Fame: “He announced on Twitter that he’s going to the Marlins game on Sunday. And that this is the first time he’s been there since 2017” [29:58].
The hosts debate the potential reception Samson might receive from fans, referencing past events like the Chicago Bulls' Ring of Honor ceremony where emotional moments occurred: “It was very sad” [32:12]. Stugotz speculates on whether Samson will be seated in the suite or among the fans, comparing it to other sports ceremonies: “I would imagine if they’re honoring Jackie McKeon, that Sampson would be one of the people seated on the field” [31:57].
Timestamp: [36:33] – [40:08]
The discussion delves into the challenges faced by the Miami Marlins in building a stable and loyal fan base, attributing it to the team’s transient nature. Mike Ryan compares the Marlins' situation to that of other transient franchises like the Los Angeles Rams and Chargers, noting the difficulty in maintaining sustained local support: “Because it’s such a transient franchise, you don’t have to guess which player you identify with” [40:07]. Dave underscores the awkwardness of fans supporting teams that have relocated or have minimal local ties: “But like, Samson, if he’s on, first of all, he has to have security, right?” [38:27].
Timestamp: [29:46] – [40:52]
The episode wraps up with a blend of humor and reflection. Dan Le Batard humorously reiterates the complexities of Sampson’s involvement with the Marlins: “You have people caring that much at Marlins games, like, oh, there’s David Sampson” [38:47]. The hosts express hope that Samson’s presence will foster a positive atmosphere, despite past tensions between stakeholders.
As the episode concludes, the familiar Cuervo advertisement returns briefly, signaling the end of the main content: “Cuervo. The tequila that invented tequila. Proximo. Cuervo.com Please drink responsibly” [40:52].
Notable Quotes:
Dan Le Batard: “What’s the icebreaker? Where you stand? Good brunch there? Your middle reliever? What’s the deal there?” [03:11]
Mike Ryan: “I’m trying to wear jeans that aren’t skinny and they’re not baggy. And I’m like, oh, this is hard, man” [27:29]
Stugotz: “Cold Storage is a really amazing movie” [21:38]
Billy Corben: “He announced on Twitter that he’s going to the Marlins game on Sunday. And that this is the first time he’s been there since 2017” [29:58]
Stugotz: “You wear jeans in South Florida during the summer, you’re going to have an ecosystem in your pants” [29:34]
This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz provides a vibrant mix of sports analysis, pop culture trivia, and lighthearted discussions on everyday topics. Whether you're a baseball enthusiast, a movie buff, or someone navigating fashion trends, the hosts offer engaging conversations and insightful humor that keep the content fresh and relatable.