Local Hour: Sports Broadcaster Handshakes

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Local Hour: Sports Broadcaster Handshakes
Date: September 12, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz & Crew

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Overview

In this Local Hour, the Le Batard crew dives deep into an absurd yet highly entertaining debate: which sports broadcaster has the best handshake? The segment meanders through their signature irreverence—combining personal stories, playful mockery, and the inevitable foray into Miami sports, national football intrigue, and inside jokes. The episode also manages to touch on Jeff Conine’s legendary handshake, the Browns' perpetual dysfunction, football updates, and a smattering of college rivalry (with trademark Miami bias).

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Great Broadcaster Handshake Debate

(01:25–04:16, 09:01–12:30, 39:01–41:43)

• Origin of Conversation: Jeremy brings up the split between broadcasting duos, focusing on Ian Eagle and Charles Davis, and how Davis “seems like a standup guy” with what must be a great handshake (01:31).
• Assessing Handshakes by Appearance: The group wonders if you can truly judge a handshake by a broadcaster’s look, debating whether Troy Aikman or Louis Riddick would surprise or disappoint (02:00–02:51).
  • Quote: “Charles Davis seems like the kind of guy that'll give you a handshake and say ‘how the hell are you?’” – Billy Gil (01:55)
• Legendary Handshakes: Mike Ryan offers, “I bet Vin Scully had a firm but comforting handshake. Just exactly firm enough to where he was saying, ‘hey, how are you?’ but without overdoing it. Like Troy Aikman.” (03:30)
• Strength Stereotypes: Dan and crew admit to associating firm handshakes with “country thick” guys or ex-athletes, but with plenty of exceptions. Jeff Conine—dubbed “Mr. Marlin”—emerges as a handshake champion, owing to his racquetball background and “inordinately strong” hands (09:44–12:30).

2. The Jeff Conine Saga

(09:01–12:30, 22:03–23:32, 36:01–39:01, 41:43-end)

• Handshake Face-off Stories: There’s a playful recounting of Mike Ryan, Billy Gil, and others preparing to “out-handshake” Conine—mental preparation was key, but Dan recalls his brother lost to Conine, the one-time undefeated hand-shaker (10:13).
  • Quote: “My brother only lost one time in his life in a handshake off... until he met Jeff Conine.” – Dan Le Batard (10:13)
• Stoicism & Humor: Dan offers a deeper look into Conine’s love for “deadpan humor” and making media types uneasy (11:54).
• Call to Action: Dan pushes the crew to call Conine to settle the handshake debate, but they collectively drag their feet, amused by how often Dan’s media relationships have been “ruined” by the show’s shenanigans (11:52–12:36, 41:43).
• Nostalgic Grievances: The crew jest about similarly tenuous relationships with figures like Mike Lowell and Landon Donovan, all (mostly) in the spirit of comedy and “dimensional shit stirring” (11:37–12:36, 36:09–39:01).

3. Football Deep Dives: Packers, Browns & College

(13:23–18:12, 23:23–33:05, 42:26–46:26)

a. Packers’ Rising Fortune

(13:23–15:42)

• Defensive Excellence: Dan raves about Green Bay’s defense, now improved by the addition of Micah Parsons, and how Jordan Love represents the team’s almost-unmatched quarterback luck (13:23).
  • Quote: “They’re going to have three great quarterbacks in a row, which is insane…” – Dan (14:25)
• Micah Parsons Impact: The crew breaks down Parsons’ versatility, game-changing speed, and elite statistical impact—comparing him to L.T., T.J. Watt, and Myles Garrett (15:09–17:10).
  • Quote: “When Micah Parsons is on the field, he creates more pressures than any player in the sport.” – Dan (16:45)

b. Dysfunctional Browns & Shador Sanders Saga

(24:16–31:28)

• Quarterback Carousel: Panel discusses the awkward situation with Shador Sanders riding the bench, speculation about internal politics (Did the owner override Stefanski?), and how dysfunction dooms even promising prospects (24:16–27:51).
• Bleak Outlook: Dan contends that “there is no reason to pay attention to the Cleveland Browns this season” due to their cap situation and historic mismanagement.
  • Quote: “Deion’s kid is going to drown in the dysfunction that is Cleveland because everyone does. It’s always happened.” – Dan (28:16)
• Debate About Interest: Billy Gil pushes back, arguing that Browns’ perpetual chaos is its own storyline, especially when hope is pinned to a rookie QB (29:21–30:16).

c. College Football & Miami-USF Preview

(42:26–46:26)

• McGuffin Belt Lore: Mike Ryan introduces the “McGuffin”—an informal college football “title belt” that passes with each defeat (43:45).
• Miami’s Outlook: Miami’s tough schedule and “gumption” in scheduling are praised, along with the rarity of beating two ranked opponents (44:17–45:01).
  • Quote: “I love USF’s gumption when it comes to scheduling these games.” – Billy Gil (44:18)
• Fan Engagement: The crew debates the relevance of the McGuffin in 2025 and pokes fun at using terms like “gumption” in modern analysis (45:26–46:26).

4. Recurring Comic Moments & Inside Jokes

• Polls & Bit Running: Multiple polls are suggested—“Does Charles Davis seem like the kind of guy who would say ‘how the hell are you?’ with a handshake?” is a highlight (02:00).
• Producer Antics: Billy Gil and Roy relish their role in “forgetting” to follow through on Dan’s requests, intentionally stalling the Jeff Conine payoff (22:09–23:32, 41:43–end).
• Self-Parody: The crew is self-aware about the chaos of the show, comparing their loose format to Tony Rizzo’s “impeccably produced” Cleveland radio show (33:18).
• Handshakes as Masculinity Excess: Dan mocks the whole genre of men sizing each other up via handshake, calling out how “my brother... tried to have handshake offs with people” (40:30).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Attribution | |-----------|-------|-------------| | 01:55 | "Charles Davis seems like the kind of guy that'll give you a handshake and say 'how the hell are you?'" | Billy Gil | | 03:30 | "I bet Vin Scully had a firm but comforting handshake. Just exactly firm enough..." | Mike Ryan | | 10:13 | "My brother only lost one time in his life in a handshake off... until he met Jeff Conine." | Dan Le Batard | | 14:25 | "They’re going to have three great quarterbacks in a row, which is insane..." | Dan Le Batard | | 16:45 | "When Micah Parsons is on the field, he creates more pressures than any player in the sport." | Dan Le Batard | | 28:16 | "Deion’s kid is going to drown in the dysfunction that is Cleveland because everyone does. It’s always happened." | Dan Le Batard | | 44:18 | "I love USF’s gumption when it comes to scheduling these games." | Billy Gil |

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Important Timestamps for Segments

• 01:25–04:16 – Broadcaster handshake debate (origins, stereotypes)
• 09:01–12:30 – Jeff Conine handshake lore and call attempts
• 13:23–17:10 – Packers, Micah Parsons, and future NFL greatness discussion
• 24:16–31:28 – Cleveland Browns, Shador Sanders quarterback drama, “interesting” bad teams
• 36:01–39:01 – Reflection on how show antics have ruined media relationships
• 42:26–46:26 – Miami/USF preview, McGuffin explanation, college football context

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Tone & Style

As always, the show is loose, rapid-fire, and self-deprecating—full of in-jokes, digressions and tangents. Audience participation (polls, bits) is encouraged, and the hosts have fun at their own (and guests’) expense.

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Summary for Non-Listeners

If you missed it, this episode is a microcosm of The Dan Le Batard Show’s charm: a simple question about broadcaster handshakes turns into a sprawling, playful discussion about sports, masculinity, media egos, and Miami-centric football takes. Along the way, you’ll learn who has the best handshake in sports media lore (Jeff Conine is the living legend, apparently) and get up to speed on the NFL’s most dysfunctional teams and the latest in the world of Miami football—all while the crew continually fails to deliver on the simple task of just calling a former Marlins great. In short: it’s a riotous journey into sports culture where the detours are the destination.

Transcript

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[Roy]

There.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why were you guys talking about who you think has the best handshake in broadcasting? How did this conversation come up?

[Jeremy]

I was complaining about Ian Eagle and Charles Davis being split up, even though J.J. watt good reports coming from his first couple weeks there, so I'm gonna give that a pass. I haven't heard it yet, but I was complaining about that group being split up and then it's just Charles Davis seems like a stand up guy, seems like he has a great handshake. So that's where it started. And then it started turned into other broadcasters with good handshakes. Someone said Louis Riddick. I don't really see that one. And that's where we are.

[Billy Gil]

Charles Davis seems like the kind of guy that'll give you a handshake and say how the hell are you?

[Jeremy]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll please. Juju at LeBatard show Charles Davis seems like the kind of guy who would give you a handshake and say enthusiastically, how the hell are you? I would like to understand what you guys are doing here though, because I don't know that I can assess firm handshake based on appearance. You feel like you can do that.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. And then Troy Aikman was thrown out there, but then Jeremy pointed out he's a look at me Louie handshake guy. Going to go overly hard too much where you're just like, all right, you're trying too hard here.

[Billy Gil]

I think he'd surprise you with that. Like, you. You'd give him a handshake. He'll like, maybe like finger snap and pull you in a little bit.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, so you're assuming that someone. So in this category, the way you guys are doing this, Trevor Matic, you're making all the big guys, all the thick guys have. You're saying that. That I've had some of the limpus handshakes I've ever had from.

[Billy Gil]

Have you seen Aikman with his shirt off?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, no, Aikman's a different character. When you said Aikman, you made me rethink my position because Aikman is country thick. Went a category outside of the one you were doing, which is it was strong black men for a while. For what it is that I heard.

[Billy Gil]

Like, well, I mean, there are those photos of Troy Aikman looking like Jay.

[Roy]

Z.

[Dan Le Batard]

Lewis Riddick was nominated. Who else would you nominate here when. Billy, did you have any thoughts on this person that you can size up on their appearance and be like, yeah, that person clearly has a good handshake. Like, are you. I don't know what you guys are doing. Does Brad Williams have a good handshake? Like, what are you guys doing?

[Roy]

Whoa.

[Jeremy]

I don't know.

[Roy]

Where'd you break. What does that mean?

[Billy Gil]

Weird pool.

[Roy]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

You know who I bet had a. Had a firm but comforting handshake? Vin Scully. I bet that was a perfect handshake. Just exactly firm enough to where he was saying, hey, how are you? But without overdoing it. Like Troy Aikman.

[Billy Gil]

Now that you mentioned the Brad Williams thing, having shaked his hand on several occasions, it is like, like the bro hug when he set up. Like, you do have, it works out the quads.

[Dan Le Batard]

What Jeremy is saying there. What are you smiling about, Roy?

[Billy Gil]

It works out the quads. I mean, it's one of those handshakes that you have to work out in your head before.

[Jeremy]

Like, I can't do eight in a minute.

[Dan Le Batard]

Get those squats in Troy Aikman. For some reason, it's too vigorous. I don't know what we're doing there. I'm not. I'm not sure what we're. What the hell are we doing?

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[Jeremy]

Thank God for boxer briefs. They do a lot there to protect me.

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There is that brief moment where you kind of see it little puckered up, red starfish.

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I think we don't need to zoo. I see the video team trying to find a night. Like, we don't need to do detective work on this.

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Well, we do, though, because I don't believe that this is something that other media entities, they're willing to go this close to the edge.

[Jeremy]

All right, we got it, guys.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes. Look how happy you look so happy.

[Jeremy]

I'm enjoying my dad. I'm a good son.

[Dan Le Batard]

Pablo Torre is going to join us here in 40 minutes. Everywhere he goes these days, he's just spilling information that no one else has. So you're going to want to be here for that. I would assume he's doing better journalistic work in sports than anybody is. And Jeremy said before we started here, Jeremy nominated Vin Scully for someone he assumes has a firm handshake. And the reason that I don't know what we're doing here is I don't assume that old people ever have a firm handshake. None of them. I don't. I'm never going in. Maybe Jeff Conine's dad. Jeff Conine's dad one time took me off guard because he's, like, a champion racquetball player. And as soon as he shook my hand, my elbow hurt. Like, he did it. He had unbelievably strong hands.

[Billy Gil]

When Niner came in studio, we. We knew this reputation around the Conine family and the racquetball thing and whatnot. And we'd heard the legends of Jeff Konine's handshake. So we all got on the same page, and, like, we're gonna give it to him. And Mike did it. I'm proud to report. Like, I gave to him. I won that. No, Yeah, I won that. I won. Like, if you mentally prepare, like, this guy's gonna try to rip your hand off in this handshake. You go in and, like, you go in prepared. And I definitely. I definitely dominated the handshake.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, so this. He underestimated you is what happened. The reason I said no the way that I did is because he prides himself on his Handshake. And I'd never seen my brother. My brother liked to wander around and. And have these fights. He used to do it with your dad, Chris, where he'd have these. Because your dad has a good, strong hand. Your dad has a firm handshake. But my brother only lost one time in his life in a hand shake off, where he's going in to try and hurt someone's hand and they're going in trying to hurt his. Like, that's where the starting point was. My brother was undefeated because he defeated your dad, Chris. He was undefeated until he met Jeff Konine. And so that was my surprise when you said you beat him at the handshake, but you were prepared and he wasn't.

[Billy Gil]

I had the keys to the game.

[Roy]

Jeff Koni could not have wanted to be. Be here any less than he wanted to be here the day he was here.

[Billy Gil]

It felt that way.

[Roy]

I've never seen anyone be more miserable than Jeff Konine was the day that he was here.

[Billy Gil]

He's pretty dry, and it was hard to get a read on it. And we were told that, no, he really enjoyed it. Could have fooled us.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's call Jeff Conine now, please, and let's find out about the handshake. That'll go well. I'm gonna give you his telephone number.

[Jeremy]

Oh, I thought you were gonna ask him if he enjoyed it.

[Roy]

Just give it to us right now.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, we're definitely. We have phones.

[Dan Le Batard]

Billy, that's a good contribution by you. I'm not gonna give it to you over the air, though. I would like you to call him, though. I'm gonna send you because I do have questions, but let's continue the conversation about the firm.

[Billy Gil]

Shit stirring. Right. Like, I not know it when you do it. Like, you don't have. Like, this is.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is shit stirring.

[Billy Gil]

Dimensional shit stirring.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is shit stirring that Jeff Conine will and would enjoy. And if I'd been here that day.

[Roy]

As much as he enjoyed the day he was here, because everyone keeps telling us, you know, he really is, like, a pleasant guy with such a good sense of humor. It's like, no, the guy's a stick in the mud, dude.

[Billy Gil]

Don't give Dan more reasons to put him on.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was beginning to say, if I had been here that day, I probably would have explained to you that throughout my life, for deadpan humor in athletics, no one funnier than Jeff Conine about making people uncomfortable with his stoicism so that they think that he hates them when he doesn't hate them. He Just amuses himself by seeing discomforts like that. So I would like to talk to Jeff Conine about whether he was thinking about you and your handshake in any way and if you could defeat him at the handshake if he were trying because his racquetball hands and baseball wrists are something that make his hands inordinately strong.

[Billy Gil]

I'm not going to abide by Jeff Conine now claiming victory when he lost to me too. Like that's twice in one week, pal.

[Mike Ryan]

I'll tell you this. I happen to know that both Chip care.

[Jeremy]

Oh my God, he knows. He happens.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Billy Gil]

He happens to know he said the.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Billy Gil]

And that was very quick of a turnaround right there.

[Dan Le Batard]

Chris Cody, Jeremy is not. Forgive me because Jeremy is a sideline reporter. He's a professional broadcaster. He's got credentials. But Jeremy has not to date been someone with sources who breaks news. I don't have that wrong. Do. I don't mean to underestimate you firsthand account here, Dan.

[Mike Ryan]

I happen to know both Chip Carey and Dan Shulman. Great handshakes.

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[Dan Le Batard]

Is it.

[Billy Gil]

I mean the Dan Schulman.

[Jeremy]

That's where he got me.

[Roy]

Dan Schulman.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to talk about where the Dolphins are in a second but before Pablo Torre comes on. And I want to talk a lot of football today because last night's was interesting. Mike, I argued with you all of last season telling you that I thought Green Bay's defense was good only because their front four gets pressure without needing help. And now they have Micah Parsons. So Jayden Daniels hasn't had that kind of pressure in his entire career. And that's what it looks like for all of them when that's the pressure. Except for sometimes Lamar Jackson. There are certain guys who are against are okay against that. But the packers defense was good before and added Micah Parsons. We'll get to that game in a second because I mean the Jordan Love throw that he made that got. I mean he makes a bunch of them. But the 40 yarder that got overturned by a holding call, it's just an absurd talent they now have at quarterback. Like that team's going to be good for a while if it's healthy in a way that's obvious to everybody and replaces Aaron Rodgers. And they're going to have three great quarterbacks in a row, which is insane because that's a little bit hard to do.

[Billy Gil]

I think fans locally Are pretty jealous of the fortune Green Bay's had when they've had a Hall of Fame quarterback backed up by a Hall of Fame quarterback, that quarterback takes over, puts up a Hall of Fame career, and then backed up by another future all Pro. Because Jordan Love is looking the part.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not just that, though. Looking the part in the modern age, with the way that football is played today. Running over a safety on third down.

[Billy Gil]

Did not know he had that in him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, but. But this will be fun to watch. The Pat the Packers aren't going to do. We just saw their downtime and Jerry just traded them a pass rusher. Like, wait, their downtime was to get him before now. Now Jordan Love is not only going to be great. Jordan Love is also value because he costs, doesn't he? About what Tua does? Like when, you know he signed a.

[Billy Gil]

Big extension, but they're smart about their extensions. I don't know about you, but I was like, fixated on Micah Parsons last night. I love watching that dude play Michael Parsons. I love how Dallas used him and Green Bay is using him in a similar fashion, probably even amplifying his versatility across the line. He played every position across that line. From what I could tell last night, they reserved him a little bit. You could tell the back injury. They're still trying to, you know, wade him into those waters.

[Jeremy]

That's wild that he is still technically hurt because he's so fast.

[Billy Gil]

He had like nine snaps, like midway.

[Jeremy]

Through the second how fast he is.

[Dan Le Batard]

He chased down last week when he had his sack. And it felt to me like Jared Goff was surprised. You know, Jared Goff has some familiarity of when people are around him, but that got there faster than other things get there when you look at the way they measure those people. Because I've told you guys, I saw lt's Prime. I. I watched that. And now when I watch TJ Watt or Miles Garrett, I'm. I'm like, yeah, that. I mean, it's pretty close. And. And this is better than those things. When to my eye, Myles Garrett is as good at that as anyone I've ever seen. Seen him sack Joe Burrow three times. I believe Myles Garrett is the only thing on this earth that scares Joe Burrow. I don't think. I don't think there's anything else that scares Joe Burrow. I think to my eye, that Miles Garrett is better, but numerically he's not. When Micah Parsons is on the field, he creates more pressures than any player in the sport. And Bill Barnwell had this stat empirically since they've had Micah Parsons when he was in Dallas. When he was on the field, they were the best defense in the league over that time when he wasn't, they were the worst. This is a player that is what Charles Haley was once upon a time when Dallas needed a missing piece. You can never get that guy now. He's a little hurt, but he's available to a defense that's already good. We'll get back to that in a second.

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[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the St the Peanuts in front of me. I am curious why it is David Sampson during his star turn here on Pablo Torre. Because Pablo Torre is elevating all yachts around here. David Sampson was with Amin Elhassan giving real expertise so that Pablo Torre is now miles ahead of everyone else. The NBA, the Clippers. It felt to me over the last couple of days seeing Adam Silver talk before the next episode dropped. I saw a whole tide shift in that sport and in that league from where it is. Ballmer was when he was with the Board of Governors and everyone was laughing with him and believing that he was saying it's a fraud. Like I just got defrauded. I just got conned. He's at the Board of Governors. Everyone there likes Ballmer. Ballmer has done good work on behalf of the owners and the first step was for Silver to get out there just like Mark Cuban and defend Ballmer. And then the next news dropped and it makes them look foolish cuz they didn't know what the next news was going to be where it's a little closer to the Clippers than it was before and they were talking in protection of Ballmer. That's not the mood. In the last 24 hours. In the last 24 hours since this Pablo story broke, I have talked to enough people that they are now more more inclined to believe that Ballmer knew more than what it is that was going on at those governor's meetings when he was insisting the same thing that he insisted to Ramona Shelburne. Like you guys have to understand what's.

[Billy Gil]

What does any of this have to do with peanuts?

[Dan Le Batard]

That David Sampson was eating peanuts throughout the episode. I didn't understand why he was eating peanuts throughout the episode. Forgive me.

[Jeremy]

Probably because they're damn good. I don't know if he had Hampton Farms, but he should have let us know.

[Billy Gil]

You have to circle back to the Packer game, too. You are weaving quite the web today.

[Roy]

I was wondering if he was talking to peanut farmers or trying to figure it out.

[Billy Gil]

I'm personally hoping he forgot about the Conine thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

I gave the number to Chris and Billy.

[Roy]

My phone's off in the corner because something's wrong with it where I turn the sound off and it keeps making sounds. Anyway, so I have it under a bag in the corner.

[Jeremy]

Your phone in timeout.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm gonna send it to Roy now. Yeah, well, I need somebody to get me Jeff Conine so I can ask him about this.

[Billy Gil]

Damn. I reminded him he was definitely gonna forget.

[Jeremy]

While you do that, Dan, let me remind the audience of our Hampton Farms winner of the week. Congrats to the Alabama fan who did not like Kalen DeBoer. They are this week's nuttiest fan of the week, presented by Hampton Farms, the official snack nut of the tailgate. Keep an eye out for Lucy Rodin at West Virginia this week if you think you are your team's nuttiest fan. We had the Miami fans with the lemur versus the Alabama fan who doesn't like Kaylin DeBoer. And two weeks in a row, Alabama fan wins. We had middle finger guy last week, and now this week we have. We're going to play it here. A fan outside of a gas station saying what she would do if she won the lottery.

[Dan Le Batard]

I tell you exactly what I'd do with the first 70 million. I'd pay off Kalyn DeBoer and get.

[Billy Gil]

Him the heck out of the University of Alabama.

[Dan Le Batard]

And then I'd take whatever else it.

[Billy Gil]

Took to get rid of the ad.

[Jeremy]

So that's the craziest fan. Thanks to Hampton Farms.

[Dan Le Batard]

Roy, I have put you on a text with Jeff Conine.

[Roy]

I see that. Yes.

[Jeremy]

Not a lot of detail. I just saw the text.

[Billy Gil]

You love that move.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm busy doing something I can't.

[Billy Gil]

You can just text Roy the number and he can handle it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I did that with Billy and Chris. How'd that work out for me?

[Billy Gil]

We did that on purpose, though.

[Roy]

Sometimes producing is saying this is a bad idea.

[Billy Gil]

That's what we do. And sometimes producing is not saying this is a bad idea. Just talking amongst yourselves that it's a bad idea and hoping you forget it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is never a bad idea to talk to Mr. Marlin.

[Roy]

Oh, that was a very long hour we did with Mr. Marlon.

[Jeremy]

Speaking of bad ideas, do you want your Ray Hudson call?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, thank you.

[Singing Voice]

And sinks his Flaming spear into the hearts of Real Madrid.

[Billy Gil]

Albert is inside.

[Singing Voice]

It's Messi again. The medicine man arrives and sinks his flame and spear into the hearts of Real Madrid.

[Billy Gil]

Wow. Echoes. Echoes.

[Jeremy]

Wanted to repeat it for emphasis.

[Billy Gil]

It was pretty smooth. You should have cut it off there. Only 183more of those.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good.

[Roy]

I'm feeling World cup fever, I gotta tell you. Either that or Covid the AC did turn off.

[Dan Le Batard]

Billy came in here today for some reason, fired up about Shador Sanders. Why were you fired up about Shador Sanders?

[Roy]

I wasn't fired up. I just, you know, saw Tony Rizzo talking about Shador Sanders. Tony Rizzo was there and he was giving us, you know, exclusive information that Tony Rizzo got. Because, as you know, Tony Rizzo is a big name and the Cleveland market as far as the Browns go. So you have to trust anything that Tony Rizzo says. So Tony Rizzo reported in Cleveland radio, Tony Rizzo, that, that he. He heard that Shador Sanders, you know, isn't even really participating on the practice squad at the moment. So it's kind of like, what are the Browns doing with Shador Sanders? I don't quite understand why they didn't just release him when they had to cut a quarterback if they're not even going to use him in the practice squad.

[Billy Gil]

It is an interesting situation that the Browns have because, like their purported savior is this fifth round draft pick, and it just so happened to be in a year in which they drafted a quarterback ahead of him. So maybe we trust the evaluation there and say, like, maybe Dylan Gabriel. I know. Or it doesn't make sense to our eyes. And Shador probably fits what you envision a franchise quarterback looking like, certainly more than Dylan Gabriel. But they have two of these ripcords that they can pull at any time that can release what is an intoxicant for Cleveland Browns fans, hope at the quarterback position.

[Roy]

I. I also don't want to, you know, speculate on things, but there were reports that Kevin Stefanski did not want him to be on the team and didn't want to draft him. And then they went around him and drafted him anyways and forced that pick. So it's entirely possible Kevin Stefanski is like, you know what? I didn't want you on this team. I'm being forced to have you on this team. But you're not really going to be on this if I have anything to do with it, which is absurd.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, it was a Haslam call.

[Dan Le Batard]

There is no reason to pay attention to the Cleveland Browns this season. Why I'm about to get there. That's what I was going to do.

[Billy Gil]

He was bought in. Guys, what is this?

[Dan Le Batard]

The Cleveland Browns are in the position that they are in because you cannot have that much dead guaranteed money from a quarterback who isn't playing for you. So they're handcuffed in a way that will make them uninteresting all season, even though they have Myles Garrett.

[Roy]

But you also have like your potential future quarterback who's a fifth rounder. So you make up for that there. Right? Like if you could get a first round quarterback at a fifth round price, then that kind of offsets some of the dead money for desean Watson.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, but the problem with that is more structural than you know, because when you have that much money tied up in deshaun Watson, the rest of your team isn't quite good enough to make sure that Shador Sanders is protected the way a first time starter who's a fifth round pick must be at the beginning of his career because that position is hard to play. Their team is really bad and they had a chance to win the opening game and start the Bengals the way that the Bengals always start. But once you're starting Joe Flacco with your season at this point in his career, that season has no chance. That season's not going to end anywhere good. And by the time Shedeur Sanders can play, even if he can play, that team's not good enough to make him better. And structurally, organizationally, they've got these problems that make him at why when Aaron Rodgers goes from the jets to the Steelers, you see how that ends up looking different. That is a bad franchise and it's been a bad franchise almost the entirety of my lifetime. Even if Shador Sanders were good, he would drown there because they've made no one good at that position since Bernie Kozar.

[Billy Gil]

Well, I mean, Baker did have like a good season and did win a playoff game on the road for them. And we all know now that Baker, Baker Mayfield is a pretty damn good quarterback. I would buck up against you saying that the Browns aren't interesting. Just sampling, you know, debate television, Shador Sanders, whether he can play or not, that's still tbd. But terms of having it as a sports conversation, he's had that for years.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, but oh my God, the reason I say it's uninteresting is just because that's all going to fail. Deion's kid is going to drown in the dysfunction that is Cleveland because everyone does. It's always happened.

[Billy Gil]

Not a fifth round draft.

[Roy]

I mean it's also fail but also like had he been drafted fifth or whatever by the Browns, then people would have been excited. But because he was drafted in the fifth round, then all of a sudden it's a guaranteed failure. Like I don't entirely agree that. It's just going to be kind of like an uninteresting team. They have storylines and you are going to have a legitimate QB battle, not just among a drafted quarterback and a franchise quarterback, but two drafted quarterbacks. What's working against them though, Dan, is a schedule. Because this they're at Baltimore and that's going to be a tough one. Then they host Green Bay. That's probably another loss. Then they're at Detroit. I mean, we don't. Oh, I don't know. We don't know what exactly what the Lions are going to be. It's a big week for the Lions. Maybe. Then you have the Vikings, Steelers, Dolphins. I mean this is just a murderer's row at the beginning of the season. Yeah, it's going to be rough.

[Billy Gil]

Check after the buy.

[Roy]

After the buy. I mean you have Miami, New England headed into the bias. That's kind of get right time. Then you have the Jets.

[Billy Gil]

Well, is this a spot where you put in Shador?

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys are doing. Guys are doing a funny thing with the Browns because I don't think anyone listening to the sound of my voice would put the Browns in the top 15 of their teams in the league and wherever it is your power rankings are on such things. And I don't think that anyone listening to this also thinks that Shador Sanders would make them appreciably better than that when that's what he'd be inheriting in his first year.

[Billy Gil]

Well, I don't know if you were following what we were doing. Yeah, they don't have a win.

[Roy]

They might have a week until win seven or week seven.

[Dan Le Batard]

So they're only going to be interesting because they're dreadful.

[Roy]

I mean, but you've written off how many teams already after one week.

[Billy Gil]

How.

[Dan Le Batard]

How many.

[Roy]

Look, they played close to the Bengals.

[Billy Gil]

The Browns have this weird thing about them that when they're bad, they're an interesting type of bad. They've been a topic for being. Even when they're really bad, you have.

[Dan Le Batard]

To bet and be right. You guys would put futures on the Browns making the playoffs.

[Billy Gil]

I don't know.

[Roy]

Said they're going to make the playoffs. There's either like they're terrible or they're going to win.

[Billy Gil]

The super teams in the League? What are you talking about? We have them at interesting. That's what we have.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, but half the teams in the league aren't interesting because they don't have a chance to win and half the teams of the league are in the playoffs.

[Billy Gil]

And as someone that has lived through several Browns bad seasons, they have found a way to be interesting always because of the hope that is represented in a young draft pick at quarterback. And now they got two of those. And no one wants the higher draft pick to succeed in sampling the Cleveland Browns fan base. They're all shador people.

[Roy]

Well, Kevin Stefanski wants the higher draft pick to succeed, it would appear.

[Dan Le Batard]

You sound like a Browns fan again.

[Billy Gil]

No, no, no, no. I am informed. I didn't unfollow Brown's accounts. I got my finger on.

[Dan Le Batard]

Sounds like you're a little more informed on the Browns than you might be on. For example, I'm going to say the Seahawks well informed.

[Billy Gil]

Don't do that to me. Don't project that to me.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, I think you're biased here again.

[Billy Gil]

No, I'm not.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think I see some bias.

[Billy Gil]

I didn't introduce the topic. I'm a boxing Titans guy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think you're crawling back to the.

[Billy Gil]

No. Couldn't be further from the truth. They had a chance. They didn't trade up to get Cam Ward and now I'm tightening up Chris Cody.

[Dan Le Batard]

Billy mentioned once, I think Tony Rizzo from Cleveland. Do we have some sound of him? What was he ranting against the parade?

[Jeremy]

He was complaining against a potential 016 parade for the Browns. If you're one of the people out there that is planning a parade for Owen 16, I will fight you. You come down and see me right now. I am at Buffalo Wild Wings.

[Billy Gil]

Do you have a clip where he said that we were such a well produced show, like a training ground for producers.

[Dan Le Batard]

So you're alleging, Billy, that Tony Rizzo happens to know you. You gave him. I gave Jeremy. Chris gave. Jeremy happens to know. I thought that was the exclusive domain of reporters around here. People who were doing reporting and were offering information that no one else had because they're reporters. That's your biggest scoop, Jeremy? Me? That, that.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, I'm the only person here who works as a reporter. Like literally, by definition.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, that's his main job.

[Mike Ryan]

What I do for a living.

[Dan Le Batard]

But you don't break news.

[Billy Gil]

No, but he reports sideline. Reporters don't often break news unless they're like so and so went into the dugout. So and so is in the locker room. We'll give you an update here. But no, what. What's happening today? Like, are you all right? That was a good football game. Is this because we haven't delivered Jeff Kona?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

I can't understand why you would sort of diminish the credentials of me as a reporter. I mean, tonight when I'm working as a reporter on the Marlins broadcast, I'll be going around asking trivia questions to Marlins fans in the concourse with the deal being for everyone. They get right, I buy them a hot dog for dollar hot dog night. If that's not reporting, then I don't know what is.

[Roy]

Dan Walter Cronkite.

[Dan Le Batard]

We will spend the entire season analyzing the sport.

[Jeremy]

I listened to Dan's show while I was in Florida last week. You know, I listened every day, came in in the afternoon. He's got a good show.

[Billy Gil]

He's got a very good show.

[Jeremy]

Oh, it's impeccably produced. I mean, oh, goodness.

[Billy Gil]

That is like a, like a, like.

[Jeremy]

A training show for kids on how to produce radio.

[Dan Le Batard]

Get me Conine.

[Billy Gil]

I mean, we're certainly not that anymore.

[Dan Le Batard]

Get me Conine.

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard.

[Roy]

I may take it one step further.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait a minute.

[Singing Voice]

Wait a minute.

[Jeremy]

You're getting sexier by the moment.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow. Go down. We haven't even gotten St. Jason Sanders. You're unnoticed.

[Singing Voice]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, my God. What?

[Billy Gil]

In spite of him.

[Singing Voice]

Oh, wow.

[Billy Gil]

I love you, Duke.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the D. Ler show with the stuff.

[Roy]

What is the Conan payoff exactly? Like, what are you gonna ask hf? Did you have fun when you were here?

[Billy Gil]

That's right.

[Roy]

But I wasn't.

[Billy Gil]

That's right.

[Jeremy]

The big payoff is it was all.

[Roy]

Right, you know, in 2003. Chicago. We get it, buddy. You won a World Series 23 years ago.

[Jeremy]

Do you remember your handshake with Mike Ryan?

[Roy]

Not really.

[Billy Gil]

I'm gonna. Thoughts?

[Roy]

Thank you, Jeff. Mike Mordecai. Okay, we get it.

[Dan Le Batard]

But here's the problem with what you guys are doing. You take no inventory of consequences that befall me.

[Roy]

You correct.

[Dan Le Batard]

You have ruined my relationship with World Series MVP Mike Lowell.

[Billy Gil]

No, I'll. My relationship is ruined because I thought we were all cool. And I. I mentioned something about his defensive prowess at second base and, like, he took it super personal.

[Dan Le Batard]

Again, not damage. Forever not taking consequences. You were responsible for forever ruining my relationship with World Series MVP Mike Lowell. Now you're being disrespectful to Mr. Marlin.

[Billy Gil]

You're shit. Siring. Because I'm not being disrespectful.

[Roy]

He's also saying you guys are not taking accountability by the fact that you've ruined all of my relationships.

[Billy Gil]

I literally just said, no, that's my bad. I said, hey, man, I thought we could crack jokes about you playing second. And apparently Michael Olsen is not down like that.

[Jeremy]

It's impeccably produced.

[Billy Gil]

So that's my bad. I feel bad about it every day. This is me taking accountability. Mike Lowell certainly wasn't as cool as with me.

[Dan Le Batard]

As you said you could beat him in a foot race is where you lost.

[Billy Gil]

I don't recall that at all.

[Dan Le Batard]

You were disrespectful to him as a player.

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[Dan Le Batard]

You were disrespectful.

[Billy Gil]

Did I say that part? Yeah, I think he took offensive, like, the defensive thing. I don't know. It was very, very strange.

[Dan Le Batard]

You tell me.

[Billy Gil]

I apologize. Franchise. Personally, I've had two of these in my. No, three of these. One of them was because Jeremy Ronick had too many on a golf course. Yeah, he kept calling my pd, trying to get me fired. But you know what? He has his reputation. I got mine.

[Roy]

Thinking back to the Conan day, didn't you also tell Jeff Kona, like, you had a terrible game three years. Like, you just went over how horrible his game was, but you were trying.

[Jeremy]

To build him up because it was like you bounced back.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, he had the game winning hit.

[Jeremy]

Like, you were so bad dog before.

[Roy]

That game winning, winning hit there.

[Billy Gil]

Grounded into a double play. Got caught stealing, like. But he did deliver the one run, and I was trying to credit his. The hell is he doing?

[Roy]

Trying to steal for him.

[Billy Gil]

To be honest, I don't know. I don't think I have a problem with Jeff Conan, but we'll find out. Landon Donovan also had to apologize directly because he was very sensitive. But whatever, we're good now. We did a show. I had way too many Miller Lights. Not really thinking that that game would end so quickly.

[Roy]

So to be clear, Dan's relationships were ruined by you, and it wasn't you. It was them not receiving the information the way they should have that ruined. So really, they ruined their relationships with Dan. If we're following this, it's not a.

[Dan Le Batard]

Day, and it's not relationships.

[Roy]

No Landon Donovan.

[Billy Gil]

No, that was me. I took accountability.

[Roy]

No, but it was them because they received it wrong. So you didn't ruin it. They ruined it by not receiving it properly. So that's why they ruined. Look, they ruined their relationships with Dan Settles.

[Billy Gil]

I'm being accountable. I thought I was closer to these people than I actually was. They're like, only my friends can talk to me like that. And you, sir, are not my friend. I will be a good teammate and not reveal the cavalcade of relationships Dan's ruined for me.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, give me the broadcasting person who won our handshake competition, and get me Jeff Konine, who's the broadcaster that you guys would point to and say, that's the guy you think you can beat. Trevor Matic. Like, if. If I say Trevor Matic has the firmest handshake in all of broadcasting, you know, Chris Fowler probably has.

[Billy Gil]

Oh, dude, that's a. Yeah, I don't want that smoke. Don't want that smoke, but Chris Fowler.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wants to show you.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, well, he's vascular.

[Jeremy]

What about Mark Schlerith?

[Billy Gil]

I don't want that smoke either.

[Roy]

Alyssa Lang looks like she has a good handshake.

[Billy Gil]

Mark Schlerith is another one of my beefs, but I think we're all right.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think Schlerith's handshake would be gnarled. I would think fingers are gnarled there. That there would be trouble, sort of. And I'm not mocking him.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, but it's a meat hook. You don't want any. You don't want any part of that.

[Dan Le Batard]

The hockey guys, Roy, have to.

[Billy Gil]

Eddie Ocek.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I mean, Kawhi Leonard, one of. I'm not going to say it's the reason Kawhi Leonard's so good, but one of them is the size of his hands makes him in the lane. Someone's impossibly strong. You cannot take that ball out of his hands. How often do you see Kawhi Leonard stripped? Like, the way that he has the ball is at least in part because his hands are inordinately large. He will shake your elbow if he's shaking your hand. Is he in the. Is he in the contest? If we make it sports. If we go into sports, if we go not just broadcasting, but the athletes.

[Billy Gil]

I would say if you have to grip a tool like a golf club, a bat, hockey stick, tennis racket, you're probably in that tier. Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, but this is why I think Jeff Kona, I think the racquetball and. And the bat. Right. You're doing so many reps of things with your hands that require hand strength. That's why I tell you that it was something. My brother, all his life did this. He tried to have handshake offs with people like boogie. You know, boogie.

[Billy Gil]

Good handshake.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, of course. Boog Sharbi has taken me and my.

[Jeremy]

Brother with ham hands, with both of.

[Dan Le Batard]

Boogie is uncommonly strong. And so me and my brother grabbed him from the sides one time, and he threw us the way that Chewbacca did in the original Star Wars. Like he would just. He just threw the both of us. With both. Yeah, with both shoulders.

[Billy Gil]

That's Hulk strength.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I mean, it was ridiculous. It was. And. And, and so. But he would tell you, you Jeff Conine's hand. There cannot be a firmer handshake anywhere in sports.

[Billy Gil]

Roy. I did shake Brooks Koepka's hand one time.

[Roy]

How'd I go?

[Billy Gil]

Nothing to report there. I thought. I thought it was fairly Even. Okay, why did you share that story in the people that hold clubs? Mike? I'd love to tell the tale Tools.

[Dan Le Batard]

The idea of tools that if you're, if you're doing something that often your hands are going to be, you know, unusually strong. If you guys don't get me conine for the payoff on this segment, I'm going to call Tony Rizzo and see if he wants to hire the all. All of you.

[Roy]

Oh shit.

[Billy Gil]

Are you.

[Roy]

He'd love to hire all of us. Glowing praise.

[Billy Gil]

I mean you're lost but he values us.

[Roy]

Yeah, exactly right.

[Mike Ryan]

He pay.

[Billy Gil]

I don't think this one's on us. This one might be on Niner. What if Niner doesn't want to do it? It's your fault I guess. Back to the Packers.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, before we. I'll. I've got something for them but before we get to that and before we get out of the local hour, did you do on your special owned own platform of University of Miami Hurricane in where you are an insider, a booster, a reporter and a jack of all trades. Did you do the five hour live stream with guests for USF and Miami, a game between top 20 teams this week?

[Billy Gil]

We did not do a special five hour hurricane marathon on Kane's insight, but Kanes insight is available daily. I was on the show on Wednesday. We had Josh Appel, friend of the show, former intern, preview our opponent and I'm super into this game. It's a top 20 matchup that doesn't have a lot of juice for you know, you know they're playing for the McGuffin. Am I breaking this to you?

[Dan Le Batard]

I have liked South Florida and UCF for the last decade getting sort of the spillage that there is in Florida football. And I know South Florida's had some bad teams here. I don't think this is one of them.

[Billy Gil]

The University of Miami is a really good team. USF has pulled off back to back ranked wins. I did rewatch the game against Florida. I didn't think USF played particularly well in that game and that's really impressive when a team can pull off an upset of close to 18 points without playing their their A plus game. But I think Miami is ultimately too deep, too big and it'll look a lot like last year's game did where Miami pulled away late. But again they're playing for the McGuffin and I don't think you were familiar with that because you just kind of looked at that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I was hoping that as a good producer you wouldn't circle back around and point that out. I would hope that you and just keep it moving. I didn't come close to answering your question. I just did a little dance on USF and UCF's history over the last 10 years. But you're supposed to protect me in those spots instead of expose me.

[Billy Gil]

I was just gonna explain what the McGuffin is. The McGuffin is this fictional trophy that people date back to the dawn of college football. Rutgers, Princeton. And basically it's a title belt that gets handed down. So whoever won that Rutgers Princeton game was a McGuffin champion. And whoever beat them got to be the McGuffin champion. Florida won the McGuffin championship when they beat Ole Miss last year. But now USF is a MacGuffin title holder. Now this would be Miami's seventh McGuffin reign. And they also one time held the McGuffin for 800 days.

[Roy]

Wow.

[Billy Gil]

Yes. So this is a. This is a huge deal going on. As if I can make football in the CW seem any bigger. But usually when Miami has a ton of top five team and they play a ranked team, there's more juice to this. I love it when these two teams play. Neither of these programs are afraid to schedule one another. I know they play again in 2028. I would totally sign up for this being an annual rivalry. I love taking trips out to tampa. I love USF's gumption when it comes to scheduling these games. And I'm expecting a pretty good one in which Miami will look in the first three weeks. Miami has an opportunity to be two ranked opponents. Opponents. That's pretty damn good. I don't think that they've done that since 2017. Beat two ranked opponents.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, to Dan's point about liking UCF and usf, you know, for the last decade or so, there's only two teams in the state of Florida who are ranked in the top 25 in the Kali Matrix, a nationally recognized poll by the NCAA.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll, please. At LeBatard show is winning the McGuffin.

[Mike Ryan]

USF and UCF top 25.

[Billy Gil]

You can kick them out. That's all right. I think most people would back up, want that.

[Mike Ryan]

They'd want that.

[Roy]

It's good context.

[Mike Ryan]

Go nights, though.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, you're self reporting. That's good.

[Roy]

Dan, did you see that UCF like officially renamed their stadium the Bounce House. It was just a nickname before and now it's actually the Bounce House. Interesting.

[Billy Gil]

Are you not into this game? Are you. Do you not believe in usf?

[Roy]

Do you not want to watch football? I don't understand. I think wanted to come in Friday to talk ball. And we talk ball, and you're like, let me talk to Mr. Morrow.

[Billy Gil]

You gotta circle back to the Packers.

[Dan Le Batard]

I will eventually put it on the poll. Get me Conine. Is winning the McGuffin a big deal? And also gumption. I'm not hearing that word a lot anymore, and I'm certainly not hearing it very much around football. In my football analysis, all of you here, when Mike Ryan, for some reason tells you he's impressed by a team's gumption, is that analysis that you guys have heard anywhere else that any. Like, who leads. Just tell me who leads the NFL in gumption?

[Billy Gil]

No, I meant the athletic department's gumption in scheduling games. I don't know if there's an NFL team. Gumption doesn't really play itself out on the field, Dan. This is more of a mindset.

[Roy]

I would argue that the CFP committee probably takes into account gumption.

[Billy Gil]

I mean, that's basically sos, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys want football? Let's do the Bucket and get me Jeff Kon. Like somebody get me Jeff Konine. But let's do the bucket. The Dentek bucket. I have told you before that this. That Dentek. This is something I have used because I was grinding my teeth at night.

[Billy Gil]

Look at you. The grind never stops for this guy.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was helpful. It was helpful. It stopped the headache. So I can say that. Honestly, the helmet that we have in front of us, I have not lost in a year. I never lost last year.

[Billy Gil]

Like the McGuffin.

[Jeremy]

Billy, you lost last week.

[Dan Le Batard]

I did not lose. I did the entire. Yes, you lost last week. You were the only loser last week. I did not lose all of last year. We are going to do the bucket again. Again. The Dentech bucket. Mike Ryan, you select first, please. Where is the bucket? Right here.

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[Jeremy]

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[Billy Gil]

Okay, I have. Thank you for your service. Oh, take armies on the bar. I would take army armies on the bar. I. I won with that helmet goal last time, so.

[Roy]

Whoa.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jesus.

[Singing Voice]

Damn it.

[Jeremy]

All right, let's fix it.

[Billy Gil]

That's on me.

[Roy]

I'll fix it.

[Jeremy]

Put them back in. We had a fumble.

[Dan Le Batard]

We got a fumble.

[Roy]

Fumble.

[Jeremy]

Ball's on the ground.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. Actually dramatic.

[Billy Gil]

It was handed. Kind of weird, but I'm taking responsibility.

[Singing Voice]

Ball.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ball.

[Singing Voice]

Oski.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dramatic tension. Hold on. A second. I'm gonna go to break. We gotta get ourselves in order. The game. I got it in order. The game has been compromised. The game is garbage. Go to commercial. The game has been compromised. Give me Go nine.

[Billy Gil]

Hey, listeners, it's Mike. Hey, Billy Gill.

[Roy]

Hey.

[Billy Gil]

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[Roy]

Oh, yeah. Fishtail palms.

[Billy Gil]

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[Roy]

I know, but it was so cold in my hand.

[Billy Gil]

We took that first sip. It was crisp. It was refreshing. Oh, man. There is nothing like cracking open a Miller Light with your crew and your inner circle bones.

[Roy]

Hell yeah, we fist bumped.

[Billy Gil]

Whether it's we we actually really did. Whether it's that touchdown didn't make a sound. Bam.

[Dan Le Batard]

Boom.

[Billy Gil]

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[Roy]

What?

[Billy Gil]

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