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Dan Le Batard
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Dan Le Batard
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Greg Cody
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Stugotz
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Chris Cody
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
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Greg Cody
Sure.
Stugotz
So the last couple of times that he has been asked to show judgment, it hasn't been great.
Greg Cody
Mm.
Stugotz
But that's my fault, not his.
Greg Cody
Uh huh.
Stugotz
I know what I married.
Greg Cody
You seem to be blaming him.
Stugotz
No, no, I know what I married. But I'm gonna blame him for something now. And I want your help in knowing how to navigate it. So we signed this big DraftKings deal and it's got gambling elements to it where we're picking games for people. And your son is aggressively bad at it. But I mean, not just bad at it. Cause he says Trevor Rogers stinks. And then Trevor Rogers Thr 15 straight scoreless innings. But yesterday his advice was Zach Gallen. Avoid him. He's lost it. And Zach Gallen's last two starts, now he's got 13 innings pitched, one earned run, and 19 strikeouts. I mean, he. He is. We need to be good at the gambling stuff. And his information is bad. And the only way that people will win is if they choose opposite what he's. What he's picking because his information is bad. And then the pick is disastrous. We can't. Like how are we supposed to stay in business that way.
Greg Cody
Well, in and of itself, though, isn't the reverse curse, in effect. In other words, whatever Christopher is suggesting, people bet if he's on a bad run, they bet the opposite, and then they're winning, and then he's a hero.
Stugotz
Yeah, but that's not how we've been doing it.
Greg Cody
I like that, though. You know, I mean, it's. It's a method, it's a methodology. You know, everybody. Everybody wants to pick the guy with all the information who's always right, but if you pick the guy who's always wrong in a way that's just as valuable. Right? I agree. Yeah. Oh, he picks Zach Gallen. Fate him. Fate him. Right. Pick the other guy, Pick the other pitcher. Pick the other.
Stugotz
Well, then why don't we present it that way? Then our audience would be winning. Then it wouldn't be our picks are bad and our information's bad. Then at least we could be funny. At least we could be self deprecating. But your take yesterday on gambling information was Zach Gallen has lost it. And he struck out 19 hitters in his last 13 innings and allowed one run.
Greg Cody
Wow, that's pretty good. Go, Zach.
Stugotz
But I mean, and then again, Trevor Rodgers, our analysis was his ERA has been five since we've known him. And then against the Rangers twice. Against the Rangers twice. He holds them scoreless.
Greg Cody
See, I get that, though. That's the beauty of gambling. You know, part of it is. All right, Zach Gallon's been on a heater. He's due for a bad start, so.
Stugotz
No, but that's not what he said.
Greg Cody
Well, tune in next week to see.
Stugotz
If the heater continues.
Greg Cody
Yeah, there you go.
Stugotz
He said Zach Gallon. He said, Zach Allen has lost it. He used to be good and he's lost it. And then you know what? He went with you. Darvish.
Dan Le Batard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.
Stugotz
Zaslow, beloved new member of our weird family here. When you hear Chris Cody and Greg Cody argue like that during the break and feel the tension as you sit between them, a lot of people think that Chris is very mean to his father. On the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody side with his father, what do you experience? Because you've often said that you don't know what's real around here and what's not real either. And now you're in the middle of the family dynamic, and you just saw them chirping at each other back and forth, and that will. I've seen that escalate over time into them Physically manhandling each other.
Chris Cody
They put hands on each other.
Stugotz
Yes. They wrestle around and they grab each other's elbows.
Greg Cody
And.
Stugotz
And Greg. And Greg is not to be trifled with here. Greg.
Greg Cody
Each other's elbows.
Stugotz
Yeah. Because. Because you're holding your dad back.
Chris Cody
Leverage.
Stugotz
You know what I mean? Your dad. You know your dad. You got to hold him.
Greg Cody
I'm lotioned up, so it's hard to get me.
Stugotz
You don't want to hurt him. You just. You just hold him back. But you just saw it. What. What you were just witness to. What do you make of it?
Chris Cody
Well, it. It makes me wonder if I'm the one who's weird, because at my age, at this point in my life, I don't have, like, arguments with my father. Like, we're both adults, and I just. It makes me wonder, am I the weird one there? That we don't have arguments, we don't go any further.
Stugotz
I'm not even asking you about the family dynamic as much as I'm asking you what they were specifically arguing about, which is just Chris telling his dad, a professional broadcaster. Dad, the microphone. Put it in front of your mouth.
Chris Cody
He has told him. I mean, I hear dozens of times every day. What's so hard about following directions?
Greg Cody
Yeah, directions. The mic. There's an obsession with microphones around here.
Chris Cody
You're on radio.
Greg Cody
I don't know, it's a podcast. I don't know whether that's common in this business or not, but to me.
Stugotz
Greg, you think you've got it right and broadcasting has it wrong.
Greg Cody
I don't think anybody is not hearing me right now because my. Because I'm two inches back. Oh, I can't be two inches back. I gotta be like this. Well, we've angled it differently. Now it picks it up more.
Chris Cody
Can you imagine? He's on television session with cameras.
Greg Cody
Yes, that's right. The ca. See, the camera moves. The camera follows me. The microphone doesn't. I think that's an issue with the technology of this whole business.
Stugotz
None of our cameras move. And the microphone doesn't need to come to you. You need to come to the microphone. Broadcasting doesn't need to come to you because you're reinventing. Need to come over to where broadcasting has been.
Greg Cody
Maybe it needs reinventing. You know, the cameraman. There's a word, a phrase called the cameraman. You know, he. There are.
Stugotz
No, they're not camera. They're not. There's no one swiveling in here. The cameras don't move.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, Greg, there's a difference between being heard and being heard clearly. And when you go backwards, you are not being heard clearly.
Stugotz
That's real reprimand. That's real reprimand from our sound guy. How often have you do you ever stand down? Do you ever concede, you know, I got this wrong?
Greg Cody
I do. No, I do.
Stugotz
Let me ask you, Greg, are you growing a mustache or have you just shaven poorly the last few days?
Greg Cody
I'm cultivating what would be what is a potential mustache?
Stugotz
I want to get into the number of things that we have going on locally because there are a lot of them. Okay, put on the back burner Messi's amazing goal and Zlatan saying last week that he plays with statues and there wasn't a compliment to like, you know, picturesque, statuesque players like Ronaldo. He was saying, no, these are players that are just statues. Put that off to the side for a second. Put the Marlins 10 straight wins on the road off to the side for a second. Put the Dolphins and Asante Samuels Sr. And what he had to say, which was a rip job coming from a football name that has some clout that you don't often hear directed at Dolphins management and call and taking personal, personal shots at Dolphin management. I want to start with what I thought yesterday was the appropriate amount of enthusiasm for a local show for the Norman Powell trade, where we immediately made fun of the name Norman Powell and how hard it is to be a great athlete when your name's Norm or specifically Norman. It's hard. And Chris Cody underestimated this person based on only his name. A Norman can only be so intimidating. And, and we, we said it was a good trade and I thought showed the proper enthusiasm for the Heat getting better without losing anything of value. Clearly getting somebody on a Everybody, everybody watching basketball would say that Danny Ainge did what he does and the Heat wins that trade because Norman Powell is a very good player on an expiring contract. That's what you want. The enthusiasm has now climbed to a place, though, where Zach Lowe is already willing to say that he knows that there are only three teams better than Miami in the east and Boston's not one of them. It's Cleveland and it's Orlando and it's the Knicks. And that's what he Sundays. The only three he knows, which is now after this trade. What that suggests is the volume is being turned down from flames engulfing Pat Riley to wait, what? They're a four seed? You guys are going to try and talk yourself into the enthusiasm of Norman Powell makes them a four seed. And so now this excerpt from Greg Cody's column today. The Miami Heat won Monday's three team NBA trade with the Clippers and Jazz. And it isn't open to debate. Pat Riley sat at the poker table picturing him in dark shades and never smiled once until he stood up with all of the chips and a needed reminder of that familiar old mojo, the God Rock. The Godfather is still around. Still able to pick your pocket.
Greg Cody
That's correct. I stand by.
Stugotz
I got you back. Yeah, but you made it. A mafioso who is now just taking nickels out of your pocket. Like this isn't like pickpocket is not like a pickpocket is the appropriate way to. To appraise this trade.
Greg Cody
It was a pickpocket win on the trade because the trade worked for them both ways. It got them a quality player who makes the team appreciably better. And they also got rid of Deadwood. It would have only been better had they been able to divest of Terry Rozier as well.
Stugotz
I want to hear from Mike and Zaslow on this because I think pickpocket is good. And, and the problem is that Mike and Zas only a heist. Like in terms of what they want from the Godfather and the crime family. They don't want pickpockets, falsehoods.
Dan Le Batard
I wondered what we saw. Congratulations to Nick Harrison. Brilliant trade.
Chris Cody
What do you mean congratulations?
Dan Le Batard
Well, I mean Dan opened the door. I don't know who's in charge anymore. So let's. Before we give the Godfather all the credit, this could have been a Nick Arison, all five of them.
Stugotz
Good job.
Dan Le Batard
It was a great job. He brain trust. That's all we wanted, a move to get better. And look, look, look inside this Eastern Conference now you have Zach Lowe saying. Now it's a rhetorical trick saying, look, they're the four seat now when over the last four years, I think the difference between the four and ten seeds have been one and a half games.
Stugotz
But that's just Zach Lowe though giving that is Zach Lowe not moving in the last six months off of his position that if you give the heat a little bit, they will ring the very best out of it. It is a, it's a league wide fear that he's expressing based on respect.
Dan Le Batard
For what it is, especially on that network, no doubt. But that, that is precisely why we've wanted the Heat to make improvements because you know, you have the greatest head coach arguably of all time and if you give him more, the results will be better. So I'm glad that they made this move and they got better as everyone else in the Eastern Conference started to make moving moves and look like they had a plan. So I'm really happy with it.
Chris Cody
My favorite part of the trade. And they got. They got a borderline All Star. Like, if you remember, Norman Powell, probably should have been an All Star last year. They got a borderline All Star for nothing. Did I need to see Kyle Anderson in my life any longer?
Stugotz
No.
Chris Cody
So they got him for really nothing. Okay. But the thing that I liked about that trade yesterday, it's not that we know the Heat's MO is to get the Whale, to get the really big superstar player. The move that I've wanted the Heat to make is I see these other trades over the last couple years, like, like take Indiana we just saw in the Finals, for instance, and they trade for Pascal Siakam a couple of years ago, and it's like they gave up nothing. And I'm like, he couldn't do that. Like, I want the Heat to make the trade where they get a good player for nothing. And finally yesterday, they got the good player for nothing. So I feel good about it.
Greg Cody
Yeah. And one of the things I wrote in the column is that, and Mike just alluded to it to me, they. They rise appreciably from play in purgatory to a position where they can compete for home court in the first round of the playoffs and win a first round playoff game. Now, if your standard is, oh, they miss out on Kevin Durant, they're not. They don't even have a chance for Giannis. They're not. They're not a championship contender right now. Who is that then? That's the. The. The complaining Heat fan. Then you're not impressed with Norman Powell, but if you're looking micro instead of macro, this is an appreciably better team in a very mixed. To me, you mentioned Orlando. To me, after Cleveland and the Knicks, it's wide open for number three.
Stugotz
This ignores Detroit. It ignores Atlanta.
Greg Cody
It doesn't ignore them.
Stugotz
You can't ignore.
Greg Cody
It puts you with. It puts them with them.
Dan Le Batard
I still think they got to do something else, but it does check a lot of the boxes. And I actually do think it helps your pursuit of getting a star player. I think that their trade assets now after this move are better. Powell is a player that you can throw into a deal and not get met with scrutiny and the ringers of the world saying your package is garbage. This is a Player of repute.
Stugotz
I. The ringers of the world. I don't think it was necessary to say it that way.
Chris Cody
It was super necessary.
Stugotz
I also think that you will get nowhere in your coverage today. I believe this firmly. I will say it aggressively in any language. No one will say of Norman Powell anywhere in analysis. A player of repute. That's only here. That only happens here. You get a player of repute. That is the highest compliment. Pat Riley, critic. And Mike Ryan, my. Let me, Let me just stop you guys a couple of times, though. You just said flippantly, Eric Spoelstra, arguably of all time. Best. Best coach of all time. You threw the arguably in there. You can't just skip past that. Running past that with, with arguably.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, arguably greatest head coach of all time. Look, I mean, that's top five conversation.
Chris Cody
Yeah, I think it was weird that he said arguably.
Stugotz
I thought, I thought the, the, the appropriate level of enthusiasm for this trade is that, yes, Norman Powell makes you better. He is a very good player and he was very good last year. He's a very efficient player. But now you've got $65 million in expiring contracts for free agency and you kept saying they got a 20 point a game scorer. You kept saying for nothing. I really do wonder how Kevin Love feels about the Miami years. He's always it the way you guys do that where chipping him off and calling him nothing again and again. I get it. I get it.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, he or his social media manager said, like, I never thought I'd be a math equation.
Stugotz
Okay, but. So I find it interesting that it took Norman Powell to bring the flames down on this conversation.
Greg Cody
Just winning a trade.
Stugotz
That's what it is. Yeah, that's it.
Dan Le Batard
That's. Yes, that's what we've been pounding something positive. Do something. You did something good to improve the team. Give your head coach a chance. Improve the team instead of standing up idly by or actually making moves that make you worse while your competition gets better. Make a move. Make a move to let everybody know that you're not just going to stay stagnant.
Stugotz
All right. The move was trading Duncan Robinson for Norman Powell.
Dan Le Batard
Well, that's, that's a, that's, That's a big time upgrade.
Greg Cody
It is a. Is it? It is a big time upgrade.
Stugotz
Not as a three point shooter.
Greg Cody
Yes, it is.
Dan Le Batard
He's a damn good three point.
Stugotz
You watch her. Wait a minute. No, no, I thought. Hold on a second. Hold on, hold on. Norman Powell is. He shot 42% from three that's really good. And he's better than Duncan Robinson. You guys are just dismissing Duncan Robinson, though, as if he weren't important to the Heat.
Greg Cody
Oh, but wait, whoa.
Dan Le Batard
You just moved the goalpost at a record amount there. You said that this wasn't a better three point shooter and he is a better three point shooter and he's available. And he ain't skirt.
Greg Cody
He's.
Chris Cody
You can't be skirt.
Stugotz
Oh, here we go.
Greg Cody
Norman Powell has shot 42% on threes since 2021. So it's over a long seven.
Stugotz
It's seven threes a game. Yes, I'm your. You guys are saying that you have made your team appreciably better. And if I started this off season by simply telling you, hey, listen, you know where they're going to go? It's going to be run it back again, but they're just going to trade Duncan for Norman Powell. You good?
Dan Le Batard
Yes, that's better.
Stugotz
I don't think you.
Dan Le Batard
We're talking.
Greg Cody
I don't think you're good.
Dan Le Batard
That's a start. Norman start.
Greg Cody
Duncan Robinson to me never lived up to his contract here. He was overpaid. He was inconsistent. He didn't really rise in the biggest moments. He didn't lift the team.
Chris Cody
I don't think that's fair.
Dan Le Batard
We've been appropriately called out on this and so have I. Like, look, Duncan Robinson, this is a strange thing to talk about because people want to keep up for him as if there weren't games that he just didn't like play. He was out of the rotation for a lot of their runs. He got his job stolen. There's a reason why he's kind of fallen out of favor. But don't forget the Duncan Robinson game. There was a Duncan Robinson game and that run to the finals against the Denver Nuggets. He was your boy, I think. Game two and then the one in the gentleman's sweep that we had. Duncan Robinson.
Chris Cody
Yeah, he had big moments in very big games. I don't think we're being fair shot for your life.
Greg Cody
Okay, a real quick comment about Norman Powell. Last season in the NBA, he was one of only six players who scored that many points a game, who shot 48% or better from the field and who shot 40% or better from threes. That's pretty good.
Stugotz
I'm not disputing any of this. I am simply telling you guys to please hear yourselves as a national show that has now changed its entire voice because of a Norman Powell trade. That if we were sitting here the last 10 days and Norman Powell had gone to any other team in the league, the you would be mocking whatever it is that that team thinks it's become by adding merely Norman Powell, who you now have, going from a playing team that was 10 games under.500 to somewhere in the middle of the conference where they would have to be 10 games over.500. And if I told you, would trading Duncan Robinson for Norman Powell be that different? You would tell me no, I don't.
Dan Le Batard
Know if it would be 10 games over. I don't think that's the golf, especially with all the injuries and.
Stugotz
No, but if you're the 4 seed, you're 10 to 15 games over.500 if you're the 4 seed in that.
Mike Ryan
I don't know.
Dan Le Batard
I don't know what the east is going to look like. I think it's going to be a bit of a mess like it has been the last few years. And if another team made a move to acquire Norman Powell for essentially what the Heat gave up, I would also be very mad that the Heat once again are standing idly by. Let me give you a stat courtesy of Synergy Basketball. Norman Powell was the sixth most efficient scorer in the NBA among 68 players who used over 18 possessions per game this season. He shot 45% on movement, three point attempts and 40% spotting up. Is a really good player. He's a good shooter. And thankfully they gave their great head coach something to work with.
Stugotz
Duncan Robinson has been under 40% shooting for the last four seasons. And you guys both went to skirt, which is the biggest public indictment that you can make because he. Because during slumps, it was clear to everybody watching that he didn't want to shoot so much.
Dan Le Batard
This is not a theory. He lost his job because Max Schrouss would not stop shooting where Duncan Robinson would very obviously, to the eye, not take the shots.
Chris Cody
Oh, I didn't call him scared. I'm saying you can't be scared. Everybody knows you can't be scared.
Stugotz
But you were. No. You were saying he was scared.
Chris Cody
No, I just said it's ambiguous.
Stugotz
It's not. It wasn't ambiguous.
Dan Le Batard
He told you he was scared?
Stugotz
No, he told me. I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to Zaz. You accused him of being scared. You did it.
Chris Cody
Disagree. Do it. Do you mean to make a ruling here?
Greg Cody
I mean, I'm just saying you can't rule for yourself.
Chris Cody
This right in the butt.
Stugotz
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
No.
Stugotz
Yes. If you want. You want. You're the judge. Yes, you can Make a ruling. But this seems unfair. It seems like a conflict of interest.
Chris Cody
You don't get to decide what's fair and not fair in my court. This finds you out of order.
Stugotz
This is what America is starting to feel like everywhere. You're going to make the ruling.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Stugotz
Even though you've got a clear conflict of interest.
Chris Cody
Was I calling Duncan Robinson scoured, or was it completely ambiguous? It was ambiguous. With prejudice.
Stugotz
Okay. Okay.
Greg Cody
That's true. With prejudice.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Chris Cody
Thanks, Greg.
Stugotz
No, once you go. There was Duncan Robinson's name, and then I heard, as the undertow to it scurred. You volunteered it. And Mike was so. He was so ready to notarize it back there.
Chris Cody
It sounds like you're attempting to retry the case, and that's not gonna happen.
Stugotz
All right.
Dan Le Batard
Double jeopardy.
Stugotz
All right.
Dan Le Batard
All we have is the results, both the ruling and the fact that he fell out of the rotation for being scared.
Stugotz
Fair enough. I lose. I don't want to risk contempt of court, but I do have contempt for the court in this respect. Zaslo is fitting in a little too well. I don't know what he brought in here into the room for breakfast. I just saw so much icing on it. I'm assuming it was cake. I don't know.
Chris Cody
What cream cheese.
Stugotz
Oh, my God. What kind of mountain of.
Chris Cody
I like a good slab.
Stugotz
Dude, I thought that was icing on a cake.
Chris Cody
You know what? It is. In my house in the Zaslow Mansion, we have whipped cream cheese. Okay?
Greg Cody
But.
Chris Cody
But I prefer the block.
Stugotz
The good stuff.
Chris Cody
I prefer the block. And you guys here, I love the spread. It's my. I wake up in the morning. I'm tired when I wake up, and the thing that gets me out of bed. This could be a great spread today in the studios in the Elser Hotel. And I get here, and you guys got the good cream cheese. I'm taking advantage of that. I put a block of that baby on my bagel.
Stugotz
I legitimately thought icing ice from. From a bagel. No, I thought it was a pizza cake. I thought cinnamon roll for breakfast.
Greg Cody
Cake for breakfast.
Stugotz
You know what?
Greg Cody
I won't.
Stugotz
I won't knock it till I try it. Actually, guys, guys, like, you guys are missing the point here. I'm clearly shocked with who eats cake for breakfast. Well, Zaslo does, because from my eyes, with the lighting in here, what he had done is piled so high. The cream cheese took advantage that. That. I thought it was a giant layer of icing on the top of a birthday cake. It was juju's birthday yesterday. Hold on a second. Let me see this. I got to find this somewhere. Okay. Happy birthday to him.
Dan Le Batard
I don't care.
Stugotz
Good luck. And I thought you had a piece of cake. And it's not unreasonable because it looked like a piece of cake.
Chris Cody
But did you think I was having a piece of cake for juju?
Stugotz
Because no one would put that much cream cheese on a bagel is my point.
Chris Cody
Someone who doesn't get the block of cream cheese very often would.
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Greg Cody
All right, we got to go back out there. That was big. Wake them up.
Stugotz
Uh oh, he doesn't want. He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that. As a result, he needs something that happens. You can see him mother effing on It. Can we bother? Are we bothering you right now? Turn on your microphone, Greg.
Greg Cody
My microphone's on Stugats.
Stugotz
Paint the scene.
Greg Cody
The paint the scene is. I gotta go to work. Good night.
Stugotz
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach. The other thing that I wanted to talk to you guys about before I get to the Marlins winning 10 straight on the road is Asante Samuel Senior on a podcast called thankfully say what Needs to be Said.
Chris Cody
What do you think I podcast about?
Stugotz
I don't know. I don't know who hosts this podcast. I do know we're running out of names in the podcast industry. I do. I do know that I want to hear someone say what needs to be said. And evidently Asante Samuel Senior, whose son would help the Dolphins right now, Mina Kimes on NFL Live yesterday. He spent a whole segment yesterday just saying how terrible the Dolphins are, how mediocre they are. And Mina Kimes just finished it with they've got no corners. They've got the worst corners in the league. So they could use Asante now that they've traded Jalen Ramsey, they cannot cover people. And that's not good like that. I don't need to tell you that. Having the worst corners in the league, they're hard to come by. And they've had that as security the last few years. Greg, you've lived in this town long enough to have this town hate four or five or six cornerbacks. We haven't had one of them in the last few years.
Greg Cody
Right. That's true. Also, let's not mistake Assante Samuel Jr. For his father. They're not the same player. Asante Samuel was very good four or five Pro Bowls. Senior, senior, the original Junior. He's never made a Pro Bowl. He's coming off a neck injury. He played. He missed almost all of last season. He might not even be healthy. Well, training camp, I mean, there are, you know, he's not the be all end all of if they acquire him.
Stugotz
Understood. I wasn't saying he's the be all end all I'm saying the Mina Kimes is saying they've got the worst corners in the league. And this is a weird story on a number of fronts. One of the corners they would be interested in, it would make sense, is the son of a man who's going on a podcast that says what needs to be said. Can you find me the hosts of that place? Because. And I do want to. To talk with you guys. What podcast names are still available in sports? Because I think they've all been taken.
Dan Le Batard
Not the hockey show. That's all.
Stugotz
That's all me. But that's right. That's. That is taken, though. You. You got that space. No one else had the hockey show.
Greg Cody
Nobody else has the Greg Cody show.
Dan Le Batard
I find the hockey show hard to.
Stugotz
Believe that no one.
Dan Le Batard
I feel like someone thought of that. There's multiple hockey shows out there.
Greg Cody
Yes, it is hosted by Asante Samuel.
Stugotz
Okay. It's his podcast. Okay. It's his. So he is saying what needs to be said. No one else is saying this except fans and Big Mac in the carport. It's let's play the sound. That needs to be said. That is more personal than I'm expecting from a retired NFL player. What is it? A player of repute had no reason to trade Jalen Ramsey other than their sensitive. There's no leadership in the Dolphins organization. Mike McDaniels is a pushover. Chris Greer, the general manager, he has no backbone. These guys over here at the Miami Dolphins, they are. They are running this team like a little league team. No one can stand up to the players. They're terrified of their own players and they have no control over their players. That is unbelievable thing to say.
Chris Cody
Well, so it needs to be said.
Dan Le Batard
Who does he think he is? Keith Tkachuk? You remember that when Keith Tkachuk called Paul Maurice the P word? Pretty much.
Stugotz
No backbone, pushover, no leadership. Little League team, no control. Intimidated, terrified of the players. How does he know any of that?
Greg Cody
He doesn't. You know what? I think there's something behind this story. And first of all, Asante, the Dolphin head coach's name has no S on the end. It's McDaniel. The dolphins had big interest, size.
Stugotz
Why did you make that face?
Chris Cody
Just funny.
Stugotz
Because he got his ass. Because he got his ass.
Chris Cody
You one upped him, Greg.
Greg Cody
Thank you. The Dolphins, I'm particular about that. If I were named McDaniel and somebody called me McDaniels, that would be like putting two GS on the end of Greg. You don't stand for it. You comment on it every time. You correct it every time. The Dolphins had big interest in his son. Listen what I'm saying.
Chris Cody
It's tough to tell, though. Like if someone puts two GS on Greg when they say it. It's tough.
Greg Cody
It is tough to know.
Stugotz
But if you.
Greg Cody
If somebody sends me an email and misspells my name, you think I'm going to answer that email? Hell no.
Stugotz
Wow.
Greg Cody
Okay. The Dolphins had big interest in Junior. I feel like you Would answer, okay, sooner or later, I'm going to be able to say this without being interrupted. The Dolphins had. Because this explains perhaps his father's volatile take, the Dolphins had big interest in his son in May, sort of fizzled out. That interest ebbed for whatever reason. Now, a couple of months later, Dad's coming back on his podcast and saying what a lousy team the Dolphins are with no leadership. Possibly because they weren't interested enough in his son to sign him, and possibly because coming off a neck injury, interest in Asante Samuel Jr is not flying off the charts. Is it gonna go up, though, with him? Like, is any team now gonna be like, oh, I want to bring in his son? Since he's just gonna do this? I feel like it doesn't help him anyway.
Stugotz
Even with the Dolphins or other teams?
Greg Cody
I would think not. There you go. I'm sorry. I can't do everything at once. I'm sorry. I caught. I muffled a cough and. And I said, probably not. Probably. Certainly not going to help his son's cause. I hear that.
Stugotz
You said flying off the charts.
Greg Cody
Yeah. That's a music phrase.
Stugotz
Is it?
Greg Cody
Yeah, yeah. Like, if your song is blowing up the charts, you know, it's a rose on the Billboard charts from number 38 to number 4.
Stugotz
But that's flying up the charts. You said flying off the charts.
Greg Cody
Yeah, same thing.
Stugotz
Oh, okay. Sorry. I didn't know. I'm just. I'm not trying to nitpick. I know it sounds like it, but I was trying to figure out what you were saying. Whether it was flying, whether something was flying off the off shelves, or whether it was flying up the chart.
Greg Cody
I'm the kind of guy who invents idioms. You know, I originate a lot of phrases and sayings that become well said. Do you fly off the chart or off the handle? Well, those are two different things. So you can do both. Yeah. Flying off the handle means losing your temper. Flying off the charts means, you know, interest is extreme, success is.
Stugotz
So you're saying that there's something fishy here with this criticism. How much are you guys buying on what he's suggesting there? That this is a scorn? This is a scorn, Father, in defense of his son Greg Cody would recognize that behavior.
Chris Cody
I don't know how Asante Samuel Senior knows anything about the inner workings of the Dolphins, yet I think he's accurate with everything he's saying.
Stugotz
Well, this is the commonly held belief, and it's just because McDaniel's nebbish.
Greg Cody
It's so wild the perception change because.
Chris Cody
The first couple years it was like everyone loves it.
Stugotz
Players, coach, fun, relatable. And then we lose.
Greg Cody
We have a couple bad seasons in it.
Stugotz
No one takes him serious. But physically, I wonder how much. I don't even know whether these people know what Chris Greer looks like. Not that, you know, I'm not. So we're just nerding them. That's what we're doing to them like that. We're saying they can't control these players because the players are clearly the players who are also accused of being soft are too tough for this management team. And this management team is viewed as soft. What kind of criticism is that like, honestly, in that sport, I understand that people think that the Dolphins are a finesse team because they're a scheme team, but it's also the most excited we've been about the dolphins in 25 years that they scheme their way to something because they had speed for a minute. Like, you're not going to try and convince me that the way that they were playing football wasn't the exciting way to play football here. Their quarterback got injured, they took a chance in a window that was small, and now it's costing them some of their name players. So they look mediocre and desperate when they get Darren Waller. But we're just going to dismiss this executive team because the fan base thinks they're mediocre, the team's mediocre, and that these two guys are bookworms or accountants.
Greg Cody
I think we retrofit how we feel about a head coach based solely on results. And Mike mentioned Keith Kachuk using the P word to refer to Paul Maurice. Maurice might be referred to as nebbish or a nerd. Guess what then he wins two super, two Stanley Cups in a row. Nobody's calling him that anymore. Now he's a genius. Mike McDaniel was a genius for one year. Got to be a genius for one year. They score 70 points against Denver, then injuries happen, then other stuff happens. And now we're calling into question his leadership and the culture around him. Something else needs to be said about the Jalen Ramsey and say it about.
Stugotz
How he does need to be said.
Greg Cody
About how he left.
Stugotz
Say what needs to be said.
Greg Cody
Jalen Ramsey, according to a story in the Sun Sentinel today, was traded in part because he was a real problem last season. He was late for meetings. He himself was the opposite of leadership. He was undermining McDaniel and Greer fairly openly and other players were going along with him. And that became very Corrosive. I don't know if Asante Samuel the podcaster knows that or not.
Stugotz
Florio makes the opposite accusation of Minka Fitzpatrick in Pittsburgh, saying that he was running afoul of everyone in Pittsburgh. So this is what happens when players get traded. All of a sudden some more honesty comes out. But before we get to a game that I want to play here with Mike Ryan, that, that goes over podcast names and thank you for saying what needed to be said.
Greg Cody
Thank you.
Stugotz
You said in the middle of what you were saying. And you do this when you're feeling yourself, guess what you're like. And guess what. Paul Maurice is a two time champion. That Guess what? Can we make a game around that? Because he loves doing this. This is his move when he. He's talking down to you listener who thought he couldn't guess what was coming next. Guess what champion? Two times you hit him with the guess what. I bet you there's not a podcast called Guess what. And I think we should start. I think we should start it with Greg Cody because there is you being arrogant. You, you pointing because you just. You. What you did is you had the poker hand, the nuts there. You're like, you talk badly about Paul Maurice. Well, he's won two straight championships. Guess what.
Greg Cody
Sure, yeah, you're right. I mean, that's unscripted.
Stugotz
Guess what already exists.
Greg Cody
Ah, damn it. Damn it.
Dan Le Batard
Which leads me to my brand new game. Hit it, Roy. Real podcast or fate? Oh, I like this game.
Stugotz
Is it sports category? Is it everything?
Dan Le Batard
Oh, yeah, it's sports. First one up. It be like that with Jason Terry. Real podcast or fake?
Stugotz
You throw that name in there and I just feel like it's real.
Dan Le Batard
It'd be like that with Jason Terry. Real podcast.
Stugotz
Yeah, I'm gonna.
Dan Le Batard
Or fake.
Stugotz
I'm gonna say that, that, that's real. But I'm not going to feel good about my. I'm almost scared to admit honestly that I think that's real.
Dan Le Batard
Any other votes?
Greg Cody
I vote no. I vote no.
Chris Cody
I'm going no. I don't think it's real.
Stugotz
Well, it's the safer bet you guys are out here and I'm making the dangerous bet.
Dan Le Batard
It be like that with Jason Terry, not a real podcast.
Stugotz
Next one up now look at me.
Dan Le Batard
Buckets and boards with Mark Madsen. Real podcast or fake? Buckets and boards with Mark Madsen.
Greg Cody
I gotta vote yes. We podcasters love that alliteration.
Stugotz
Yeah, I guess I gotta vote yes too because it sounds real. I can't lie.
Greg Cody
Last one was fake. So this one's probably gonna be real.
Dan Le Batard
Right back and forth, Buckets and boards with Mark Madsen is real. Next one. Just How It Is with Josh Smith. No, Just how it is.
Stugotz
No way. There's no way.
Dan Le Batard
With Josh Smith.
Chris Cody
Now is it possible you're giving us the right name, but like, it's with someone else, not Josh Smith.
Dan Le Batard
Just how it is.
Stugotz
Josh Smith did not like being interviewed. He did not like talking. There's no way Josh Smith is hosting a podcast.
Dan Le Batard
He might be, but not just how it is. Ain't no changing it with Zadarius Smith. Ain't no changing it with Zadarius Smith. Real or fake.
Stugotz
You know what I'd like to do, audience, can you make Ain't no Changing it with Zatarius Zadaria Smith fly straight up the charts right now? Can you make the Darius Smith confused at his influx of giant following?
Greg Cody
Off the chart right now?
Stugotz
Because this is a podcast that exists. We're going to show everyone it exists. Unless it doesn't, in which case I've sent our audience on a wild goose chase.
Dan Le Batard
Ain't no changing it with Zedarius Smith.
Greg Cody
That has to exist.
Dan Le Batard
Real or fake.
Stugotz
So random. I'm saying, yes, I want our office fake. I'm. I'm applauding Mike's creativity, creating it. No, I. It's too real to be fake is what I'm saying. It's. It has to be real, and we have to support this as a. Meadowlark needs to support Zedarius Smith here.
Dan Le Batard
It is fake.
Stugotz
Good job on you.
Greg Cody
You're creative.
Stugotz
It's too bad.
Dan Le Batard
The pose cast with James Posey. Real or fake?
Greg Cody
Fake. Awful. Can't be real.
Dan Le Batard
The Posecast with James Posey. Is this a real podcast or a fake one?
Greg Cody
Swack can't be real.
Dan Le Batard
Shit. Swack is actually a real podcast hosted by Tom Thomas.
Stugotz
That was definitely Lewis speaking.
Greg Cody
What?
Dan Le Batard
100%. I was 100% fed the wrong guy there. I could have used whack.
Stugotz
Sounded so natural.
Greg Cody
How'd you know it was Lewis coming out of my.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, seriously, the pose cast is real.
Stugotz
Oh, geez. So we had Metal Arc. Had the pause cast for a while.
Dan Le Batard
This is the pose cast.
Stugotz
Is it spelled differently or is it spelled the same?
Dan Le Batard
Chalk it up with Jimmy Rollins.
Stugotz
Oh, that is real. That is real.
Dan Le Batard
It is fake.
Stugotz
What is Jimmy Rollins Podcast?
Dan Le Batard
He does not have Chalk It Up. Made that. We made it up. The next one available on Apple with Michael Beasley.
Greg Cody
Jimmy Rollins podcast is called the six one one Podcast with Jimmy Rollins and.
Stugotz
Ryan Howard, I mean, but you tricked me. That's not fair that I don't know.
Dan Le Batard
The name is available on Apple, hosted by Michael.
Stugotz
There's no way that's real. That can't be real. That I want it to be real. I wish it were real.
Dan Le Batard
I wish that one's fake. And that is real.
Greg Cody
Podcast.
Stugotz
It's a good start. A good start to a good start.
Dan Le Batard
With the Darius Smith man.
Stugotz
I was so ready to. In fact, I think we should invent that podcast right now. I think that you guys should get together, call Zadaria Smith, put out a one minute episode of just. This is the first podcast.
Chris Cody
A trailer.
Dan Le Batard
I'm on it. The reason why I thought of Zadarius Smith, he was at the NASCAR race and people were around him saying, no pictures, no pictures. I was like, man, you gotta know ball to know who that is. Hey, everybody, it's Mike down here in South Florida. As the audience well knows, we've been celebrating a proper championship and we've been enjoying every minute of it. And by my side throughout that entire championship celebration has been Miller like. Yeah, I wanted to make my championship time a Miller time. Because much like most of the fun memories I've had as an adult, Miller Lite has been right there by my side, supplementing every experience. And now that I'm about to travel during the summer, you can rest assured I'm gonna be having plenty of Miller Lite along the way, because that's what summer is all about. And since 1975, Miller Lite has been right there in all those memories. For you listening right now, it's the 50th anniversary of Miller Lite. That's 50 years of great taste, great friends, great moments. Miller light light. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight. Com Dan to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories at 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
Summary of "Local Hour: Sht's Whack" – The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz**
Release Date: July 8, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
The episode kicks off with Dan Le Batard and Stugotz engaging in their typical lively banter. Shortly after the initial advertisements, the hosts dive into the core topics, centering around local sports insights, team performances, and engaging in their signature humorous discussions.
Timestamp: [01:02] - [03:56]
Stugotz initiates a conversation about concerns regarding the company's DraftKings partnership, specifically critiquing the accuracy of their gambling picks.
Stugotz highlights issues with their gambling advice, stating, “We can't... how are we supposed to stay in business that way” ([01:28]).
Greg Cody suggests a potential strategy to counter the inaccuracies: “Whatever Christopher is suggesting, people bet if he's on a bad run, they bet the opposite” ([02:28]).
Dan Le Batard and Stugotz explore the feasibility and implications of presenting their picks humorously, turning their perceived mistakes into relatable content for listeners.
The discussion underscores the challenges of maintaining credibility in sports gambling advice and explores creative ways to turn perceived weaknesses into strengths.
Timestamp: [05:00] - [21:36]
A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing the Miami Heat's recent trade involving Norman Powell and Duncan Robinson.
Dan Le Batard commends the trade, emphasizing its strategic value: “It was a great job. He’s a Player of repute” ([13:55]).
Stugotz critiques media portrayal, noting, “No one will say of Norman Powell anywhere in analysis. A player of repute. That is the highest compliment” ([14:00]).
Greg Cody references his column, discussing the trade's impact on the Heat's standings: “The Miami Heat won Monday's three team NBA trade... Pat Riley sat at the poker table” ([10:02]).
The hosts debate Duncan Robinson’s performance, with Greg Cody arguing, “Duncan Robinson to me never lived up to his contract here. He was overpaid...” ([17:20]).
Dan Le Batard provides statistical backing, mentioning Norman Powell’s efficiency: “He shot 45% on movement, three-point attempts and 40% spotting up” ([19:12]).
This segment offers a comprehensive evaluation of the trade, balancing statistical analysis with personal opinions, ultimately supporting the Heat’s strategic move to bolster their roster.
Timestamp: [27:17] - [37:27]
The discussion shifts focus to the Miami Dolphins, examining leadership and management issues as highlighted by Asante Samuel Senior on his podcast.
Stugotz introduces the topic by referencing Asante Samuel Senior’s critical remarks: “He was saying how terrible the Dolphins are...” ([27:37]).
Greg Cody clarifies, distinguishing between Asante Samuel Senior and his son: “Asante Samuel was very good... He might not even be healthy” ([28:48]).
The hosts delve into criticisms regarding the Dolphins' management, with Stugotz stating, “They are running this team like a little league team. No one can stand up to the players” ([34:30]).
Greg Cody counters by discussing perceptions of the head coach and management, linking past successes to current criticisms: “He wins two Stanley Cups in a row” ([35:52]).
The conversation explores the authenticity and impact of Samuel Senior’s criticisms on the Dolphins’ reputation and internal dynamics.
This segment provides an in-depth look at the Dolphins' organizational challenges, juxtaposed with fan and insider perspectives, highlighting ongoing tensions within the team’s leadership structure.
Timestamp: [04:43] - [07:07], [14:48] - [33:57]
Throughout the episode, Dan, Stugotz, and Greg engage in playful and sometimes heated exchanges, adding a personal and entertaining layer to the discussion.
Stugotz and Greg Cody share moments of light-hearted conflict, especially regarding broadcasting techniques and personal habits, such as microphone placement and mustache grooming ([05:00] - [07:07]).
The hosts banter about appearances and daily routines, including humorous takes on microphone etiquette and personal grooming: “Greg, are you growing a mustache...” ([07:18]).
The interactions extend to commentary on personal styles, such as cake for breakfast and cream cheese preferences, showcasing their camaraderie and dynamic rapport ([21:53] - [33:57]).
These personal exchanges offer listeners a glimpse into the hosts' personalities, fostering a relatable and engaging atmosphere.
Timestamp: [37:27] - [43:07]
In an engaging and entertaining segment, the hosts play a game to guess whether certain podcast names are real or fabricated.
Dan Le Batard introduces the game: “Hit it, Roy. Real podcast or fake?” ([38:31]).
Stugotz and Greg Cody participate by guessing the authenticity of various fictional and real podcast titles, such as “Buckets and Boards with Mark Madsen” and “Just How It Is with Josh Smith” ([39:05] - [43:07]).
The segment showcases the hosts' creativity and humor, as they invent and debunk podcast names, engaging listeners with playful interaction.
This interactive game highlights the hosts' wit and ability to entertain while involving the audience in the content.
Stugotz on Miami Heat's trade: “A player of repute. That is the highest compliment.” ([14:00])
Greg Cody on DraftKings strategy: “Everybody wants to pick the guy with all the information who's always right... but if you pick the guy who's always wrong in a way that's just as valuable.” ([02:28])
Dan Le Batard on broadcasting clarity: “There's a difference between being heard and being heard clearly.” ([07:07])
Stugotz on Dolphins' management: “They are running this team like a little league team. No one can stand up to the players.” ([34:30])
In "Local Hour: Sh**t's Whack," Dan Le Batard and Stugotz offer a spirited and insightful discussion on local sports, team trades, and organizational critiques, all while maintaining their signature humor and engaging interactions. The episode balances analytical depth with personal banter, providing both entertainment and valuable perspectives for listeners.