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Stugotz
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Stugotz
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Stugotz
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Stugotz
Cuervo. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast. So I don't know if you're aware, but today is a big news day. This is a big news day because we had to respond here. We had to respond on the Dan Lebatard show with Stu Gotz because.
Chris Cody
Hello.
Stugotz
Because on the New Heights podcast.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Stugotz
Do I have the name right?
Greg Cody
Is that how they say it?
Chris Cody
I think so. Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
That's the right inflection.
Stugotz
New Heights on the New Heights on the new. Maybe they've been saying it wrong on the New Heights podcast.
Chris Cody
Yes.
Stugotz
They have Taylor Swift on today. That's a pretty good get. And so in turn, we had to respond as well. And that response comes in the form of one. Stu got. Hello. Hello.
Mike Ryan
We got the guy whose name is on the show.
Jeremy
Hello.
Stugotz
Stu Cots. Good morning. Good to see you.
Chris Cody
It's a big get by you, Zazzle.
Stugotz
That's a good. That's what the producer is called. That's a good poll.
Dan LeBatard
He felt like it today.
Stugotz
I did. I came here, I woke up this.
Chris Cody
Morning, and I said, ah, I'm gonna come in, do a show, and here I am.
Stugotz
How do you feel? How you doing? It's good to see you.
Chris Cody
I feel great. I do. It's. It's good to see you. Thank you for allowing me on your program. I appreciate my program. Your hair looks fantastic.
Stugotz
I was.
Chris Cody
I was having a very interesting conversation with you right before we turned on the mics here. Yeah. We were talking about your kids at Zazlov.
Stugotz
Well, like, because, I mean. I mean, Stu Gotts and I haven't seen each other in a while, and so he does the whole. Hey, you know, how are the obligatory. How are the kids?
Chris Cody
Not obligatory.
Stugotz
Tori, I was. I was asking you.
Chris Cody
Since I was asking you sincerely, how's the family?
Greg Cody
Turned into Poppy?
Chris Cody
How's the family. How's the family? But Zaslo, I believe one of his kids has arrived at an age where the kid wants nothing to do with Zaslo, nothing to do with the parents, doesn't want to be home, and if the kid doesn't get his way, he'll just take the keys of the car and drive away.
Stugotz
That happened last night for the first time in the Zaslo mansion.
Jeremy
You need to slap this kid upside the running around doing whatever the hell he wants. Like you claim that he stepped to you and you won that battle.
Stugotz
Well, it's.
Jeremy
Yeah, it's true. He bought tickets to go to a UFC fight across state lines. Yeah, he's just up and leaving the house when he doesn't like you. Like what is going on in this Zazzle family manner.
Stugotz
So St got says to me, you know, are you in a place where he, you know, he, he doesn't want anything to do with you? And I said, you know us. I said, yeah, pretty much. But last night we had, we had a blow up. Like last night was a first. All right? And that was him just up and leaving. Up and leaving in a huff.
Mike Ryan
No subject. Is that too, Too much information if we get the subject?
Stugotz
Well, no. So, so what happened? So my older son is 16. All right. He drives, got his own car. Okay. And it's your car though.
Chris Cody
I mean, well, I mean, I paid.
Stugotz
For it, but like it's your household. He has his own car. Yes, technically. You. Yes, I pay for it. It's under my name, it's my car.
Mike Ryan
It's a three car household.
Stugotz
Yeah, but we have a three. It's a three car household dot he has his own car.
Jeremy
You call and you report that stolen. Like call the cops, say someone stole a car from.
Chris Cody
Send your kid to jail.
Jeremy
Exactly. Right.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Stugotz
And matter of fact, I can track it. I'm going to tell you exactly where this.
Jeremy
I don't know who it is. One of the youths from around the block.
Stugotz
One of them.
Jeremy
Youth, Same last name as me too.
Stugotz
The two. The two what? So, so we. He got home yesterday and he's in, he's in that teenage mood, you know the mo. You know what I'm talking.
Chris Cody
I know the mood where he just.
Stugotz
Doesn'T want to be around anyone and just sits in a dark room by himself. Doom scrolling. All right. Just staring at the phone and just being scrolling. Just being miserable.
Dan LeBatard
Wow. It doesn't get much better around 40 kid.
Stugotz
And so, and all my wife and I wanted to. We just want to like, we just Want to talk and be around you.
Mike Ryan
And.
Stugotz
And I don't.
Chris Cody
He's done talking. He's done talking to you. He's done being around you.
Stugotz
Right? He's done with all of it.
Chris Cody
Yes.
Stugotz
And so. So then finally one of us shouted at him, if this is what you're gonna be like, then we don't want you here. Okay? And so, of course. What's that? Oh, you don't want me here. I'm leaving. And like, that's exactly what happened.
Chris Cody
He got you, right?
Stugotz
Yeah, right, right. He showed us. He. He took his key. Like, where are you going? He goes, well, you don't want me. I'm leaving. And. And he. He up and left. And so. So we had this. Then my wife is like, she's all hysterical now and.
Chris Cody
Right.
Stugotz
John. Johnathan, what should we do?
Dan LeBatard
What? She talks like you.
Mike Ryan
Did you tell Dodge? Did you tell White Tamra? He's probably just driving around the block a few times. Where's he going to go?
Greg Cody
Somebody who I.
Chris Cody
You.
Greg Cody
You're bringing me back right now to the. I mean, I'm fighting with my parents. I'm just leaving. Don't have anywhere to go.
Mike Ryan
He went to a fast food restaurant.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, that's exactly where I went to. But it's the only place where you're allowed to go. I like the idea of like the Zaslo manor. Everyone has this mansion. I'm sorry. Zaslo mansion. Everyone has the exact same cadence. They all talk like that. Guess what? We're going to go to our in laws.
Chris Cody
I'd leave that house too.
Stugotz
I mean, you're 1,000% right. Because about five minutes later, you know, we have the apps where you could check where they're going.
Chris Cody
Little life. 360.
Stugotz
Exactly.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Stugotz
That's what we have. Great app.
Chris Cody
Okay.
Stugotz
And we check the app, like five, ten minutes later, and we can clearly see he's in the drive. Through a talk. Of course.
Greg Cody
I knew it.
Chris Cody
Smoking pot.
Dan LeBatard
Living moss. Kids haven't changed.
Stugotz
Right? If it was anything like me, you know, we're parked at the local fast food place and we're lighting up a bowl. Okay.
Chris Cody
Now, well, that's what he's doing too.
Stugotz
I don't think that that's what he was doing.
Dan LeBatard
Once again, it doesn't get much better.
Stugotz
At 40, but my wife's just like, what are we doing? What? What do you mean, what? I don't know. I don't have the handbook of how to deal with this. I. She kept asking me for answers. I don't have the answers.
Chris Cody
You're the head of the household. You're supposed to have the answers, man. She looks to you to have the answers. Have an answer. Make up an answer. Right.
Mike Ryan
It's pretty obvious that when you've got the Life360, you can pretty much monitor him. There's so much less to worry about.
Chris Cody
Let him.
Greg Cody
Let him think he's living.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Stugotz
What were our parents doing? Because you' 100% right about that. Like when I left in a huff or like Chris just said, he left in a huff. And although Chris's age, you probably had a cell phone. I didn't have a cell phone at that time.
Greg Cody
There was no, like, tracking people, though. I don't believe.
Stugotz
Right, Right. But like, when I left in huff. And certainly stugz. When you left your house, no cell phones. No cell phone. Definitely no Internet, no apps, no life360. None of that bullshit. Like, how did our parents not freak.
Mike Ryan
Out in our age? And I believe Stu can. Can confirm this with me. People on the streets knew you were a runaway because I took all my clothes and put it in one blanket and then put it on the end of a stick. People didn't actually put that over my.
Chris Cody
That was just me.
Mike Ryan
That's how people knew you were a runaway. It's almost like hitchhiking without having to put your thumb up. Hey, I need a place to stay.
Stugotz
I dreamed of doing that so many times as a kid.
Chris Cody
What an odd dream.
Mike Ryan
Got to have a strong stick.
Stugotz
Just how, like, what stick do you use? Oh, you got. You got to get a good branch.
Mike Ryan
You got to go to the yard. You got to start. Well, in my family, you got to start thinking about which one of these will my dad have used to whack me on the ass. I'm going to take that one away. Yeah, it's a whole nother topic.
Dan LeBatard
We can talk about it after.
Jeremy
How long was your.
Stugotz
Well, I. I fell asleep, and you were really worried. See, that's another thing.
Chris Cody
You chase that.
Mike Ryan
Text them. Can you bring me back a Taco Bell Crunch wrap supreme, please?
Stugotz
I'll get. I'll get back to answering Billy's question there. But that's another thing. I don't understand. The parents, probably our parents when we were young, how they stay up in the living room and they wait for you to get home.
Chris Cody
Right.
Stugotz
I. I always fall asleep.
Chris Cody
My dad would tell me, back in the old days with no cell phones, there was a parenting network. Like, my parents knew where I was at all times. I'm telling you like, they had a network of parents and someone was in charge of tracking where all the kids were. So they knew. Or at least they claimed that they knew.
Mike Ryan
So I like the idea of Zaz sitting there waiting for his son, like having the arguments in his head and then just kind of falling asleep. And as soon as he hears something.
Stugotz
He'S like, oh, you'll never do this again.
Greg Cody
Pops up arguing.
Stugotz
No, no, I don't fall asleep trying to wait up in the living room. I'm not even attempting to. I go to bed.
Greg Cody
Like under a blanket?
Jeremy
Yeah.
Stugotz
Like comfortable. So definitely don't care about your kids bed.
Chris Cody
Right.
Stugotz
But. But I keep the ring on my phone. I keep it on. Okay. If he needs me.
Dan LeBatard
What about the text, though?
Stugotz
I keep that on too. Yeah, yeah, I keep. Well, no, I keep it on for. You could set on the app, you.
Chris Cody
Know, certain people, you could have the sound off. Sounds off for those people.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
Not getting the alerts for the hockey channel.
Stugotz
No, no, no. That would keep me up all night. So back to Billy's very important question. I woke up randomly at like three in the morning and I rolled over and I checked my phone to make sure my son came home, you know, so he came home around one.
Jeremy
When did he leave?
Stugotz
Maybe like nine.
Chris Cody
Wow.
Stugotz
Wow.
Dan LeBatard
Friends house.
Jeremy
Drama king.
Mike Ryan
We're going to have to check his cell phone activity. Where was he exactly for those several hours?
Jeremy
Do you have an alarm?
Stugotz
Do I have an alarm? Yeah, yeah, my phone has an alarm.
Jeremy
No, no, like your house.
Stugotz
Oh, oh, yes, of course.
Jeremy
So like I said, was the alarm on off? Because like I would turn it on. So when he gets home, set it off or like how handy the cops.
Chris Cody
Come and take him to prison.
Jeremy
Yeah, how handy are you?
Stugotz
Well, I' Jewish, so the answer to that is self explanatory. But we. He has, he has like the security features on his phone. You turn it off when you're coming home.
Jeremy
I think what you do next time, do you feel like there's going to be something we go through again? I feel like he's going to up the answer.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Jeremy
This is what I think you do. Go to the Home Depot or the Lowe's or one of those and you buy a new lock. And the next time this brat decides I'm going to go home and I'm going to show my parents, you literally change the lock on the door. And then see how long before he realizes, like, oh, I'm not. I'm not welcome in this house anymore. Then he takes the rails, the trains he gets on a train and goes off somewhere else.
Stugotz
I knew what you meant.
Jeremy
With his bindle. You know, that. That Dennis the Menace.
Chris Cody
The movie.
Jeremy
Have you seen the movie Dennis the Menace?
Stugotz
Yeah, sure.
Jeremy
Christopher Lloyd, where he was someone who, you know, riding the rails under that bridge. That really took the dream that Izzy had of being a stowaway on a train away from me real quick. I was like, you know what? I do not want to just be hopping on random trains and running away because there's Christ Lloyd's of the world out there doing that.
Greg Cody
That is a good movie. To discourage running away.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Stugotz
Do you think Dennis Menace holds up these days? I haven't seen in a while.
Jeremy
Probably not.
Greg Cody
Walter Mathau.
Chris Cody
It doesn't.
Greg Cody
I believe he was the grumpy guy.
Chris Cody
Right.
Dan LeBatard
You know, there's a difference between. He always is in a manner. Yeah, man, I. I didn't know what the difference.
Stugotz
A mansion has opulence.
Jeremy
Yeah. A manor has multiple mansions on it.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
It's like the main house.
Jeremy
You want a manor, not a mansion.
Chris Cody
You don't want a manor.
Stugotz
Already been through this. Yeah, man, I'm a mansion kind of guy.
Dan LeBatard
Standalone home, it's a mansion. But a standalone man, that's poor, rich.
Stugotz
I want my opulence, dog.
Dan LeBatard
But you have opulence with a man or two. You also have more land.
Stugotz
All right, I'm not going to, you know, not going to litigate this with you.
Chris Cody
I'm more impressed if I'm pulling up to a manor than I am if I'm pulling up to a man.
Dan LeBatard
As you should be. It's a compound.
Jeremy
Have you talked to this kid again since last night? Like when you woke up, did you see him?
Stugotz
No. He's a teenager. There's no way he was awake when I left the house.
Jeremy
I don't know. It's cool.
Chris Cody
He.
Stugotz
No, no. They're in private school. They haven't started yet.
Mike Ryan
Question. You said that you were upset than White Tamara, but yet you were the one on the couch. Was she comfortably sleeping in bed?
Stugotz
I wasn't on the couch. We both went to sleep. We like. We.
Mike Ryan
Neither of you care.
Stugotz
We don't stay up like that. Well, why do I need to stay up? Why do I need to stay up and stare? Like I said, we got features on my phone.
Mike Ryan
When your son comes home and nobody's waiting for him, he's like, they never gave a shit about me to begin with, right?
Stugotz
Well, we already told him, you know, if this is your attitude, we don't want you here. We already established who said get out?
Greg Cody
Why?
Jeremy
You were your wife.
Stugotz
My wife. Wow. Yeah. But then she was the most upset when he did leave.
Chris Cody
But Izzy is right. When your kid runs away and then comes home, right. You have to be. Someone needs to be standing at the door waiting for the kid. It's intimidating. You need to do it. I mean, you used to do that.
Mike Ryan
Like no sitcom music in the background. Just like, oh, okay, now. Now we know it's the time to discuss this and then settle our situation. And then we both go to bed calmly.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
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Stugotz
Don LeBatard.
Chris Cody
I had Rachel and Emma both home, and I was in a fight with Rachel, and I said, if you roll your eyes one more time, there's going to be a problem. A big problem. And she said, really? What are you going to do? Stugats.
Stugotz
Oh, God damn. I mean, that's where I didn't have an answer. This is the Dan Levatar show with the st.
Chris Cody
Foreign. I was a good parent. As though my kids never ran away.
Greg Cody
You were?
Chris Cody
Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm not parenting anymore. They're adults. I mean, I'm done. It's over.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. It's over.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Stugotz
I did it, I think.
Jeremy
And you're probably not gonna like this answer. You gotta give up on this kid. This kid's a lost cause. And just focus on the other ones.
Chris Cody
Move on.
Jeremy
Yeah, we don't have the same issue with number two.
Stugotz
Just drive into, like, a farm and open the door and free.
Jeremy
No, no. It is what it is. He's 60, you said. I mean, he'll be around for two more years.
Greg Cody
Stop talking to him.
Jeremy
Exactly.
Chris Cody
Right?
Jeremy
Yeah. I mean, you just.
Chris Cody
Okay.
Jeremy
We do what we can. Sorry, lost cause. We're gonna focus on your brother now. We love him more than you.
Dan LeBatard
Finished product. He's like, bam, out of bio. You know what? He is, right.
Stugotz
So how do I handle it when.
Greg Cody
I get home today, start calling him a drease.
Jeremy
I mean, you're assuming that when you get home, the lock's not gonna be changed. Sounds like this kid runs the household. Honestly, he does whatever he wants.
Mike Ryan
I think when you get home, you basically just start questioning every time he does something. He goes to the freezer for an uncrustable. Just like, hey, hey, if you're not living here, those aren't yours.
Chris Cody
Right?
Mike Ryan
If he goes to, like, fine and go wash his hands.
Chris Cody
What are you talking about?
Mike Ryan
People who don't have houses don't have running water.
Chris Cody
My water.
Mike Ryan
You just start doing that over and over again. And he's like, fine, Dad, I get it.
Stugotz
So you want me to ride him? Like I'm going to keep this guy. Yes.
Jeremy
It seems like it'll probably make things worse, but you got to. We've already given up on him.
Dan LeBatard
Make him pay rent.
Chris Cody
I'm with Billy. Ignore him. Move on.
Greg Cody
Buy something really cool for your other son. Just show him that what happens when you behave.
Jeremy
Oh, take your other son to the UFC fight he wanted to go to.
Stugotz
Well, I did take my other son to SummerSlam last weekend and take the older one.
Chris Cody
That's because the older one didn't want to go, though.
Stugotz
It's fair. The older one's not really interested. I want to go with you.
Mike Ryan
You know what you should do? Say, in the Zaslow mansion, no more Arab fighters.
Stugotz
You know what Stugach did?
Mike Ryan
Put it on the door in front so everybody knows when they come in.
Greg Cody
To the audience just joining us, there is context.
Dan LeBatard
Yes. His son loves the ar.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, his son's an asshole.
Stugotz
So Stu Gotts did. Did suggest before as well. Have you thought about grounding him? Yeah, and then I said, like, I don't know, maybe this is like a new generation type of thing. I don't. Like, we've never been a grounding family. Like, I don't think we've ever actually grounded him.
Mike Ryan
There's your problem.
Chris Cody
Well, it's very obvious.
Stugotz
I mean, well, Stugats did like. Did you ground.
Chris Cody
I was grounded. I never grounded my daughters. So again, we were good parents. We had no reason to.
Stugotz
I don't know why you keep saying we were good parents.
Chris Cody
I mean, my kids are taking the keys and leaving a conversation and coming back at 1am not happening.
Stugotz
But you never grounded them.
Chris Cody
You never grounded.
Dan LeBatard
Don't you have one child on the other side of the planet right now?
Chris Cody
Australia. She's back. She was a Bondi beach studying for a weekend. Yeah, but studying for a weekend wasn't a week. I'm sorry. Semester.
Stugotz
Thank you.
Chris Cody
She actually studied for what? You know, for a weekend, for two days. The rest of the time she parked several months. Gotcha. Partying, not studying.
Mike Ryan
ST's parental strategy is out of sight, out of mind.
Stugotz
Send them Away like, Chris, were you ever grounded growing up?
Greg Cody
I remember my mom being very mad at me a lot, but I don't.
Stugotz
Remember actually very mad at me a.
Chris Cody
Lot, but never granted.
Greg Cody
I can remember. I can picture my mom being upset with me, but there was never, like, you're grounded for two weeks.
Stugotz
Oh, yeah. I'm not asking, like, did you ever, like, were you never in?
Greg Cody
I never. That's what I mean. Like, I don't know. To answer your question, no. I can't remember getting specifically grounded.
Mike Ryan
I can't picture Greg Cody being a hard ass.
Stugotz
Oh, no.
Greg Cody
My mom, the hard ass.
Chris Cody
Are we still grounding kids?
Greg Cody
Is that right now for me, it's the tablet. If you do something, you have no. You can just go in your room and you can color.
Mike Ryan
I think I already established with me it was a stick or belt to the ass.
Greg Cody
Coloring is a punishment these days.
Ethan
Yeah, you actually just, like, make them do things with other human beings.
Greg Cody
You can't.
Ethan
That's the punishment.
Greg Cody
No electronics. You need to be a normal.
Ethan
You have to go outside and play with other kids.
Greg Cody
I'm serious, though. That is the big punishment these days. If I say you're going to lose your tablet, she will do whatever I say.
Mike Ryan
We're talking about a different age group here, though.
Stugotz
This is what. This is what I'm dealing with.
Chris Cody
Yeah, but he's 16, and Zazzle is not going to take his phone or his computer. Like, the kid doesn't care if he does.
Stugotz
Oh, well, that's a great example, because one of the things that we did last night was because he. We didn't love his attitude. My wife turned off, like, the features on his phone. You know, she can control that because the family sharing, whatever. And okay, that obviously expedited the whole him, I'm leaving situation. And then what happened was he left. And I got to check the light. 360 because I want to see where he is. But guess what? It's off. Because she turned off the features. So then I got to tell my. You got to turn the features back on so I can keep track of him.
Dan LeBatard
You can't just turn on the one individual feature list.
Stugotz
You're asking me questions I don't have all the answers to. I'm just telling you what I know.
Mike Ryan
Can you text your son and ask him what particular feature got him so heated that he didn't have anymore that he was willing to move away from his parents?
Jeremy
Why don't we get them on Snapchat instead of you doing this? Just bring your Kid on and we'll do, like, a family therapy here.
Stugotz
I think it's the Snapchat. That's the thing that the teenagers are, like, in love with these days.
Jeremy
What happened with Snapchat? Like, they're cooking.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, young. Younger people still like it, but it's.
Jeremy
Did it, like, go out of style and then come back with younger people? I feel like Snapchat started and we, like, moved away from it, but it's still a thing with younger people.
Stugotz
I think that's how the teenagers text. I don't think they use the actual texting on the phone. I think they all text, text.
Chris Cody
They did message the Snapchat kids.
Mike Ryan
That's how they send nudes.
Jeremy
I guess someone cares so much what you're thinking that you need to send it in. Like, disappearing Snapchat. No one gives a about your high school drama. Losers get a life.
Stugotz
I don't know, man. Anyway, that's what I got going on. Good to see you, Stugot.
Chris Cody
Good to see you, Zazzle. I'm glad the. The family stuff's going well.
Jeremy
It didn't help you at all. You still don't have a strategy for what you got?
Stugotz
I have an update tomorrow. Like, I'm here.
Jeremy
What are you gonna do? You know what you're gonna do.
Stugotz
No, I have some time. I. I just surveyed the room. You guys were not much help, and I got to figure out what to do now.
Chris Cody
Yeah, I got to figure it out on your own, man. I mean, do you think your kid is expecting some sort of conversation when you get home today?
Stugotz
Well, I think he's probably praying there's not. Right?
Chris Cody
But he thinks there probably is, right?
Stugotz
I don't know.
Chris Cody
Because he's going to avoid you the entire day.
Stugotz
Oh, yeah. Like, I'm gonna get home, and he's gonna be in the exact same position he was in yesterday afternoon when we got mad at him. That's.
Chris Cody
That's for sure, right? That or be smoking pot in an alley somewhere. I mean, what's today.
Jeremy
He just. He's home. Like, he's just home all day.
Stugotz
Yeah. He's not working till Zaslo gets home.
Chris Cody
Is he listening to this? Right.
Stugotz
No. No. Like, okay, so that's. That's another thing. Like, you think that he'd be listening. No, these. My kids don't care. They don't care that I'm on the radio or podcast or. Or peacock?
Chris Cody
Like they younger one cares or.
Stugotz
I mean. No, not really. They don't think it's a big deal.
Mike Ryan
It's not a big deal to them because you've done it your whole life. You've been on the radio, you've been. So not impressive. Dad's job.
Stugotz
Yeah, it's so not. Oh, they like it when we're sitting, you know, ringside at SummerSlam, but otherwise it's. It's benefits them.
Chris Cody
Right?
Stugotz
Right. It's not impressive to them.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. Sue, do your daughters. It doesn't really matter to them that you were on ESPN on the air because it's all they know.
Chris Cody
It's all they know at the time. The first. The first few times we were at espn, it was a big deal to them because it was such a big deal to me. But after that, after a couple of weeks, it was just. It became. Became normal to them, you know? So not impressed. It's hard to impress your kids, man. God, kids, they humble you.
Stugotz
They kind of suck.
Mike Ryan
So Taylor Swift was really on that podcast, huh?
Stugotz
Well, I think she's going to be on tonight. Or it's tomorrow.
Greg Cody
Wednesday.
Stugotz
I thought it said tomorrow.
Dan LeBatard
Jason's got a new coat. 9. I'm not talking about a jacket.
Stugotz
So we countered, though, I think in a very big way. Like, it's quite possible the Kelsey brothers like this Dan LeBatard showing Stu Gotts climbing too far up. Yeah.
Greg Cody
They've been looking at the charts. They're like, we need something. Call Taylor in.
Stugotz
Yep. And we called in the reserves and we brought in Stu got.
Greg Cody
That's our. They brought in a lefty hitter. We're bringing in our lefty.
Dan LeBatard
So you're friendly with Travis? A little bit, yeah. Is this going to be his last season? Feels that way.
Chris Cody
No, he's not going to tell me. I mean.
Dan LeBatard
I mean, I'm just Act like he would, though, Ask. Yeah, I'm asking you as someone that knows him better than anyone else in the room.
Chris Cody
Yeah. I don't think it's going to be his last season. I don't.
Greg Cody
This is where you'd be like, I talked to him last week. He's not sure.
Chris Cody
You know, I talked to him in Tahoe.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Chris Cody
He posted a photo. Yeah, but you know how Tahoe goes, Mike. Like, you'll say anything. You're in a good mood, the weather's beautiful, you're about to play golf. I got the sense he was going to play five more years when I talked to him.
Dan LeBatard
I know how it goes for you.
Chris Cody
But then I also realized we're in Tahoe and people just say stuff. Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
It's all just chit chat.
Chris Cody
Yeah. So Five more years.
Stugotz
I don't expect a whole lot out of him this year. If we're being serious for a moment, like, I subscribe to the theory of once you start thinking about the retiring. I feel like you've retired. Yeah, I feel like you're like, that's probably the time. Like, remember this was a conversation at the end of the super bowl last year. This was a real thing, that he might retire. He decided, no, I'm still going to play. And it's also coming off obviously like his least productive year, I think, since his rookie season. I think once you start thinking that way, like, I think you're kind of done.
Dan LeBatard
He has big time Hollywood aspirations to taking a ton of meetings around town.
Stugotz
Everyone knows he was good in Happy Gilmore.
Chris Cody
He was very good.
Stugotz
I liked him.
Dan LeBatard
I gotta tell you, I. The window for me to watch this movie is probably closed. There are too many people saying that it's really, really bad.
Chris Cody
Not worth it. He was good though.
Dan LeBatard
I want to see the camera.
Stugotz
What do you mean not worth it? Like he doesn't have an hour and a half in his life. It's not worth the hour and a.
Dan LeBatard
Half I genuinely like. If I'm going to spend an hour and a half of my life on a movie, I want it to be like, like one that's not bad. I started watching that Jurassic park, the new one.
Stugotz
I liked it. It's good, right?
Dan LeBatard
I fell asleep twice.
Mike Ryan
Same Stu when you were in Tahoe talking to Travis Kelce. Are you sure it wasn't Jonas Valenciunas?
Chris Cody
It could have been. Right now at the Home Depot, you'll.
Dan LeBatard
Find storage solutions made to fit your needs.
Chris Cody
Grab an HDX Tuff Toe to protect.
Dan LeBatard
Your tools or keep your sports equipment.
Mike Ryan
Contained with real reinforced snap fit lids.
Dan LeBatard
Or stack up and make better use of your space with bins and totes built to last. Whatever your story, we've got the gear.
Chris Cody
To keep it organized and protected at the Home Depot.
Dan LeBatard
How doers get more done.
Stugotz
Don Lebatard.
Dan LeBatard
Mike Bryan's in there and he's the.
Stugotz
One with a baby. He's the one who's gotta like, worry about what the future is.
Chris Cody
Is. And Mike Ryan bet on DraftKings because.
Stugotz
Mike Ryan bet on us. This is the bet you're afraid of doubling down on?
Dan LeBatard
Putting up a billboard in Edmonton stuff? I care more about Matthew Kachak than I do my daughter.
Stugotz
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stuff.
Dan LeBatard
Well, if you add your alerts on the hockey chats as while your son Ran away from home. We're buzzing a little bit. Matthew. Chuck is playing the long con.
Stugotz
So I saw this. Stugotz. I saw this yesterday. I don't know if you did. Matthew Tkachuk plays the Panthers and Panthers back to back Stanley cup champs. I don't know if you know that. And Matthew Tkachuk is. He had hernia and torn a doctor. Those are very serious injuries. Played through it like a champ. Yeah, that's a winner right there.
Mike Ryan
A doctor or adductor.
Stugotz
Whatever I said is what it is.
Mike Ryan
You're a doctor.
Chris Cody
I'm sorry. Say it again, though.
Dan LeBatard
I didn't hear it. He tore that during the fight.
Stugotz
Torn. A doctor.
Chris Cody
A doctor.
Dan LeBatard
We all knew that he got injured at the Four Nations. What we didn't know is that he tore his A ductor.
Mike Ryan
That was for you, Zez.
Chris Cody
That was a doctor.
Dan LeBatard
That he tore it in the fight. He dropped gloves in the first few seconds of that game against Canada and Montreal, and then he played through peaks and valleys when it came to his playoff performance, but had a good Stanley cup. Especially as that series got more.
Stugotz
It felt like he got healthier throughout the playoffs. Like, he obviously started. Remember the first postseason game against Tampa? He had the two goals like, oh, my God, Chucky, I love you so much. And then he was pretty quiet for like two rounds. But then Eastern finals and especially at Stanley cup final, he was awesome again.
Dan LeBatard
He tore that adductor off the bone. Mm. It's something that's reportedly going to need surgery. He's playing the long con right now because he still has not gotten the surgery.
Stugotz
Right. So he spoke with ESPN's Greg Wishinski yesterday where he. He still undecided Stugots what he's gonna do if he's gonna have the surgery. If he has the surgery, it's gonna cost him between two and three months.
Chris Cody
Right.
Stugotz
So, like, if he had the surgery now, let's say three months, we're talking being out till maybe the beginning of December.
Mike Ryan
And that's a con.
Chris Cody
Yeah, but that's. That's. Well, it's a long com. Because he's going to be out for the entire regular season. Just play towards the end of the regular season, into the postseason. Do the Panthers really need him during the regular season?
Dan LeBatard
Well, I mean, they showed that they could play well without him towards the tail end of the season. After the Four nations, we didn't see him again to the playoffs. But here's why. It's a long con. You hold out from the surgery because of that recovery Time. Even though the NHL is going to eventually do away with a long term.
Stugotz
Pay attention here, Stu guys, this is what's very important.
Dan LeBatard
They're going to do away with a long term IR that doesn't take into effect this season. So Florida is going to manipulate the rules in their favor, have him have surgery as close to the start of the season as you can, and you get to extend that recovery time and you get to make evaluations on your roster. It's because of this that you haven't traded someone like Evan Rodriguez, because if Matthew Tkachuk is on this active roster, the Florida Panthers are over the salary.
Stugotz
Cap by like three some odd million dollars, which in hockey is actually a lot.
Dan LeBatard
So the question would be like, well, if you're going to end up trading Evan Rodriguez, why not trade him, you know, at the start of the season if you still need to make this move with Matthew Tkachuk? Here's why you don't do that move. Here's why. It benefits the Florida Panthers for Matthew Tkachuk to put this surgery off. Someone else can get hurt. It's hockey, very physical sport, as we know. And you also have essentially three and a half months of data points that you can take into account and see, is it going to be Evan Rodriguez, is it going to be somebody else who's not, whose form is not up to snuff here? We can evaluate this season as it goes on. So Florida's doing the smart thing here and Matthew Tkachuk, even though it seems counterintuitive, is wise in putting off this surgery as long as possible. So Florida has the most flexibility.
Mike Ryan
And before people start calling it the Tkachuk rule after next year and saying, oh, the Panthers, those assholes, they did it. Can you tell them who did it against us the last few years?
Stugotz
Kucherov? Stone?
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, those two. Yeah, Vegas did it a ton. Look, Florida, it's fair. I complained about those teams.
Stugotz
I don't know if fair is the thing, is the thing that I didn't like.
Chris Cody
It's within the rules. It's fair.
Dan LeBatard
I didn't like it. We went, went into a Stanley cup against a very loaded Vegas Golden Knight team. We were not using the long term ir. They were, they were loaded. They were super deep because they use this. Tampa, we all know what happened there when they eliminated Florida.
Stugotz
We all know what happened last couple years. Took that ass.
Dan LeBatard
Florida got to say we won a Stanley cup without using this rule last year. I mean, two years ago last year they used it and we're going to remain consistent over here. I don't like it when teams abuse this loophole, but it's going to be a loophole and Florida's already gone through that threshold, so they're going to abuse it as long as they can.
Mike Ryan
Now, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.
Chris Cody
You don't like it when it's done to you, but if you're doing it, you're fine.
Dan LeBatard
I'm not fine. I'm going to be consistent.
Chris Cody
I'm with you, by the way.
Dan LeBatard
I don't like it. And if other teams want to criticize, they can criticize Florida. I think the dirty stuff is a little played out. But they can criticize Florida for abusing long term ir. They can criticize Aaron Eckblad for the performance enhancing drugs. Those things are fair game. And Florida did kind of for the first time, in my opinion, really leaned into the black hat that the, the rest of the league, their fans and the media put on them years ago. Where I thought it was unfair before, now it's justified.
Stugotz
So you think that the reason that he hasn't had the surgery, because the first thing that comes to mind for me is the season ended. You won the Stanley cup in the middle of June. That was two months ago. Why haven't we had the surgery yet? Like, I'd like you to be healthy and ready for the start of the season.
Chris Cody
He played golf in Lake Tahoe too. Normally those are things fans get mad at, right? Like you're delaying surgery to play golf, get ready for next season.
Stugotz
Like that was a shock move all the time. Remember Shaq? He, he had the, he had the surgery on his big toe like the day before training camp. So I was like, well, the whole summer, you know, so that's the first thing that came to mind for me is I, I wish you would have done it already. You, you'd be almost completely recovered. But you're saying you think this is actually a coordinated effort with the team?
Dan LeBatard
Yes. Florida has capable wingers that come in. Look, Matthew Tkachuk, despite his gritty reputation, and that's well learned defensively, he's not like the rest of the forwards on the Florida Panthers. He's one of the slowest players in the league. So if you put in an offensive minded winger like Boquist or Sam Sakiewicz, they're going to produce. They've proven whether it's on line two, whether it's on line three, they're going to go in there. If they get the ice time, they put up Points because they're surrounded by good players. Normally, it would sound counterintuitive to start a season without one of your best players in Matthew Tkachuk, without the guy.
Stugotz
Who changed the entire trajectory of your franchise.
Dan LeBatard
But it benefits them for this point in their franchise timeline for him to get this surgery later so they can keep this core together for. Even if it's just a few more months.
Chris Cody
How do you envision that going down? That conversation? Are the Panthers telling Matthew Tkachuk, hey, delay it. Hey, we can't get you a doctor till mid August.
Dan LeBatard
They. They were. This was plotted out the second he got hurt over.
Stugotz
Like, what if Kachuk said to them, yeah, like, I hear what you're saying, but I really like playing hockey.
Chris Cody
Right.
Dan LeBatard
That he's within his rights to do that, but I think he's a team player. He changed the franchise. This is all coordinated with Tkachuk, his reps and Florida want. And look, it was very important to Matthew Tkachuk for us to re sign the guys that we did. That math does not math. If Matthew Tkachuk is on the roster day one, you're gonna have to say goodbye. You're gonna have to kick some guys out of the group chat. And this is a tight group of guys, and they don't seem ready to kick anybody out of the group chat right now.
Mike Ryan
Do you know who this was not coordinated with? Probably the folks at EA Sports. Their cover athletes couldn't be out all year long. Ooh, probably not.
Dan LeBatard
We're already cursed with the COVID athletes.
Stugotz
So the part that I don't want to say, this part bothers me because, like, that team's not gonna be able to do anything to bother me with. With the joy they've given me these last few years. But I don't. So there is something to be said for, hey, it's most important to have him healthy for the playoffs. And maybe if he misses the first two, maybe three months of the season, he'll not only be healthy, but he will be somewhat rested, you know, by the time the playoffs roll around. And that's obviously what's most important, because we're trying to win a Stanley cup and all of that makes sense, but I also don't want to become the team that only cares about the destination because the journey, to me, is extremely enjoyable still. Like, I don't want. Yeah, but the journey to be the playoffs. I want the whole season to matter.
Chris Cody
But the journey is hard, Zaslow. And they've done it two years in a row, and they played More hockey game.
Stugotz
Well, we can essentially say three. They've been there three years.
Chris Cody
They've been there three years in a row. So why not take some shortcuts when you can? And this is a shortcut at good for Chuck. The Panthers will be fine without him during the regular season. And even if they aren't, if they go in as a four seed or a five seed like they did this year, they're still going to be the favorites probably as long as Kachuk is healthy to win the call.
Dan LeBatard
They weren't the favorites entering last season because they got hurt. Matthew Tkachuk was out. People were downing. I think by the time puck drop started on the. On the first playoff game, Carolina was a favorite out east. I don't know if they're the favorite right now. We can check the odds on DraftKings.
Stugotz
But I don't think they are. I think they're second.
Dan LeBatard
You have to keep in mind they play in a very difficult division. This is one of the toughest divisions of hockey in hockey, if not the most difficult division in hockey. It's very within the realm of possibility that without Matthew Tkachuk they don't finish top three. In a division in which teams get a massive boatload of points compared to some of the other divisions. It's why Carolina baked into their team plans is we have a much weaker division. If we just improve on this core, we have a path to the Eastern Conference finals. And then they get tricked into thinking they're a lot better than they actually are. Florida can have a tougher path, but they. But luckily this franchise has shown you in back to back years they can do it with home ice and they can do it without ever having home ice.
Mike Ryan
My biggest question on the team is how long do we get this version of Bob? Because when that starts to slide, then I don't know what it looks like.
Stugotz
I mean, there's no real reason to believe that it's dropping off yet. You know, why would you think that is?
Dan LeBatard
It does take.
Mike Ryan
How old is he?
Stugotz
37, I think.
Dan LeBatard
I guess what you hang your hat on is this postseason run was the best version of Bob throughout their two previous start.
Stugotz
A little slow. And then after the start he was great.
Dan LeBatard
Nuts. Bob's part in this whole run here. Florida made the playoffs that first year as an eight seed. When they made it to the Stanley cup final only to eventually lose to Vegas is he was benched.
Stugotz
Yep.
Dan LeBatard
Alex Lyon, he was not the starter.
Stugotz
At the beginning of the postseason.
Dan LeBatard
Alex Lyon Day 2 days ago Got Florida into the playoffs, and Bob had to reclaim his job during that postseason.
Stugotz
Well, they went down three games, or I think they were down two, one at the time. And then they went to Bobrovsky, and of course they came back and they beat balls.
Dan LeBatard
Kind of nuts considering where we are here. He's certainly a hall of Famer, and he's going to have his jersey retired by this franchise. They make that initial run, they get proof of concept because they benched him.
Stugotz
Jeremy's also here today. Hello, Jeremy. He's asking, Jeremy, you were out yesterday. Did you hear anything that you. You were not into yesterday? You had a problem with that? You want to get your thoughts in on?
Ethan
Yeah, some things that I had an issue with, but other things that I thought were really great. So I do have a top five topics from yesterday come on to, so. Oh, well, I. We sounded really, really old. Posting to Facebook.
Stugotz
Well, I mean, that's.
Chris Cody
What's wrong with that.
Dan LeBatard
It was a Greg Monday.
Ethan
Yeah, yeah, Facebook's too young for Greg Cody. But just, you know, Facebook's not the place for those first day of school photos anymore.
Stugotz
Just call it Facebook.
Ethan
Asking Greg if he would date Chris.
Jeremy
We acted like was not the question.
Mike Ryan
It was more, is he your type? Would you.
Ethan
Hey, actually, I'm not criticizing it. I'm saying it's actually a pretty normal question. In fact, the president of the United States has said he would date his daughter if it wasn't his daughter. So moving on.
Dan LeBatard
Another.
Ethan
Conversation you died had about deli meat. Really, really great discussion. You got to go up to the deli counter, ask for thinly sliced. That gets exactly where you guys want it to be. Between, like, that shredded deli meat and way too thick from just buying the prepackaged one. Number five, criticisms of Greg, 10 minutes apart. You guys got mad at Greg for not lying about a story with Tim Bowens and making up details, and then 10 minutes later got mad at him for making up a story with details about umpiring. Be consistent, guys. Come on. If you're going to criticize Greg, do the things that actually should be criticized.
Dan LeBatard
Fallacy and falsehoods. Number four, why we got mad at Greg. He didn't give us anything on the Tim Bowen story.
Greg Cody
So annoying yesterday.
Ethan
Number four, the audience's favorite topics. Really glad we talked about WWE and TV rights again.
Stugotz
Fair.
Ethan
Really glad we did that one. Number three, Ethan.
Greg Cody
I cannot believe on that one. You're right.
Ethan
I can't believe you guys fell for the ruse of him caring about his dog. All he wanted was to be on this show. You know how I know that? I've been him before.
Dan LeBatard
Number two, he probably tore the ACL himself.
Jeremy
I actually had that hypothetical question before, before the show today. I asked the room while you were out. I said, if Ethan knew he was gonna speak so much on air, do you think he would have injured his dog sooner?
Ethan
100. 100%. Number two. You guys didn't know there were dildos at CVS?
Mike Ryan
Nobody knows.
Stugotz
Got them toes. Yeah, man.
Chris Cody
You knew that. Nice.
Mike Ryan
Oh, my God. He knows.
Chris Cody
Who doesn't?
Ethan
Number one, Juju's best idea. You guys totally blew past this one in the post game show. The idea of giving winners of a championship, not just the big gaudy championship ring that they could leave in their home on display, but essentially a wedding band that's engraved with the team name and the year in which they win. You could even engrave it, maybe with the gem that's. That's the color of the team. I thought that was an unbelievable idea, and you guys just blew right past it.
Greg Cody
Like the Ronaldo wedding salute to juju.
Stugotz
We could just have a.
Greg Cody
Well, that one toned down.
Mike Ryan
Jesus, I'm so glad we went to this.
Greg Cody
That is a wedding ring.
Dan LeBatard
Now's a good time to remember where tequila's story truly began. In 1795, Cuervo invented tequila.
Stugotz
Cuervo.
Dan LeBatard
What are you doing here?
Stugotz
Cuervo?
Dan LeBatard
Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up. Well, I do know that to be true. But even during ad reads like Cuervo, I think he could lay out especially for one of our great partners.
Stugotz
Sweet, delicious Cuervo.
Dan LeBatard
Since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots. The same family, the same land, the same passion.
Stugotz
Cuervo.
Dan LeBatard
So enjoy the tequila that started it all. Cuervo.
Stugotz
Cuervo.
Dan LeBatard
The tequila that invented tequila. Proximo Cuervo.com Please drink responsibly.
Stugotz
Cuervo.
Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Episode: Local Hour: Stu Heights
Release Date: August 12, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
In the Local Hour: Stu Heights episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz engage in a lively discussion blending personal anecdotes about parenting challenges, humorous exchanges with guest Chris Cody, and an in-depth analysis of sports strategies, particularly focusing on NHL star Matthew Tkachuk and the Florida Panthers. The episode is peppered with engaging banter, insightful commentary, and timely pop culture references, making it a rich and entertaining listen for both regular followers and newcomers.
The episode prominently features a heartfelt and humorous conversation about the struggles of parenting teenagers. Stugotz shares his recent experience dealing with his 16-year-old son's rebellious behavior, highlighting the emotional and logistical challenges parents face when their children test boundaries.
Key Points:
Teenage Independence vs. Parental Control:
Technological Tools for Monitoring:
Parental Strategies:
Notable Quotes:
Stugotz on parenting uncertainty:
“My wife and I wanted to... just want to talk and be around you.” (04:42)
Greg Cody on parenting without grounding:
“Coloring is a punishment these days.” (20:14)
Chris Cody joins the conversation, adding depth and personal experiences related to the parenting discussion. His anecdotes about family dynamics and his children's behavior provide a relatable and humorous perspective.
Key Interactions:
Family Conflicts:
Dealing with Rebellious Teens:
Notable Quotes:
Jeremy’s blunt advice to Stugotz:
“You gotta give up on this kid. This kid's a lost cause.” (17:05)
Mike Ryan on teenage independence:
“People who don't have houses don't have running water.” (17:42)
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing Matthew Tkachuk's role in the Florida Panthers' strategy, particularly in light of his recent injuries and potential retirement considerations.
Key Points:
Matthew Tkachuk's Injury and Surgery Decision:
Florida Panthers' Strategic Maneuvers:
Impact on Team Dynamics and Future Prospects:
Comparison with Other Teams:
Notable Quotes:
Dan Le Batard on Florida's strategy:
“Florida's doing the smart thing here and Matthew Tkachuk... is wise in putting off this surgery as long as possible.” (30:05)
Stugotz on Matthew's impact:
“Who changed the entire trajectory of your franchise.” (33:35)
The episode also features lighter segments covering pop culture topics, including Taylor Swift's podcast appearance and discussions about movies like Happy Gilmore and Jurassic Park. Additionally, listener interactions and humorous listener questions add an engaging layer to the show.
Key Highlights:
Taylor Swift's Podcast Appearance:
Movie Discussions:
Audience Questions and Feedback:
Notable Quotes:
Ethan on listener feedback:
“You guys totally blew past this one in the post game show.” (41:10)
Mike Ryan on movie preferences:
“Jesus, I'm so glad we went to this.” (41:18)
As the episode wraps up, Stugotz admits that despite the collective brainstorming, he hasn't found a definitive solution to his parenting dilemma and hints at providing updates in future episodes. The hosts wrap up with final thoughts on the discussed topics, leaving listeners anticipating more insightful and entertaining content.
Final Moments:
Stugotz’s Reflection:
Future Teasers:
Parenting Insights:
Humorous Takes:
Sports Strategy:
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz masterfully balances personal storytelling with in-depth sports analysis, all while maintaining a humorous and engaging tone. This episode, Local Hour: Stu Heights, offers listeners a mix of relatable parenting struggles, strategic sports discussions, and light-hearted pop culture commentary, solidifying its place as a must-listen for fans seeking both entertainment and thoughtful discourse.
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