Local Hour: Terry Rozier's Arrest / Mike Ryan's Best Day Ever

Summary

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Local Hour: Terry Rozier's Arrest / Mike Ryan's Best Day Ever
Date: October 23, 2025

Overview

Broadcast from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, this “Local Hour” episode dives into seismic sports news: the unexpected arrest of NBA player Terry Rozier, the ongoing fallout around Chauncey Billups and alleged illegal gambling rings, and the wider implications for the NBA and regulated sports betting. Alongside the scandal, the crew delivers its signature blend of irreverent humor, Heat season predictions, and loving mockery—while Mike Ryan enjoys what he calls "the best day ever," thanks to Rozier coming off the Heat’s books.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Breaking News: Terry Rozier & Chauncey Billups Scandals

• News breaks that NBA player Terry Rozier and coach Chauncey Billups have both been arrested, allegedly tied to illegal gambling involving the mafia and high-stakes poker games.

  • “He was cleared by the NBA, and then the FBI says, no. The Fed say, no, you’re not cleared.” – Mike Ryan [02:56]
  • Discussion notes the NBA’s internal investigations are being outpaced by federal agencies.

• The crew reacts live to rapid, conflicting reports from various sources (Shams, Adam Schefter, ABC, NBC), leading to moments of confusion and speculation.

  • “Yet there will be more names and more information coming out over the course of the day... Pretty seismic.” – Mike Ryan [10:04]

• Notable speculation about inside information:

  • Wagers "placed 30 times in 46 minutes" on Rozier by a professional bettor signals misuse of insider knowledge. [37:26]
  • “You don't make that many bets on just Terry Rozier unless you've got inside information. That's the thing.” – Mike Ryan [37:28]

• Pablo Torre’s reporting:

  • Malik Beasley's fate also reportedly hinges on the Department of Justice announcement. [32:47]

• Underlying issue: normalization and regulation of gambling in pro sports

  • Le Batard argues regulation aids detection, while Mike Ryan questions whether that’s truly safer for sport integrity.
    • “You can only have so many Johnte Porters before people realize.” – Mike Ryan [04:00]
    • “If this is legal in more states, then what do you think is going to happen? Gambling is not new. Athletes. Gambling is not new. What is new is this being a regulated market and these companies sharing data with their league partners.” – Dan Le Batard [11:05]
    • "The regulation... make it so that we know the following... It becomes hard to explain why the NBA cleared Rozier..." – Mike Ryan [36:37]

• Memorable Exchange: Legal vs. Illegal Gambling

  • Chris Cody wonders aloud: “What makes a card game illegal?”
    “You can’t track any of the income. That’s the mafia and the, and the mafia aspect and the amount of money involved.” – Mike Ryan [14:45]

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Mike Ryan’s “Best Day Ever” (Terry Rozier Comes Off the Heat’s Books)

• Mike Ryan is elated by Rozier’s arrest, both for practical (salary cap space!) and personal reasons:
  • “Oh, this is one of the happiest days. I believe Mike Ryan is happier today than he was with either of the Panther championships.” – Chris Cody [03:22]
  • “I got a perma smile… Look at me. I’m my best self right now.” – Dan Le Batard [03:44]
  • “Honestly. You love it when the bad guys get caught.” – Dan Le Batard [27:41]
  • Playful, tongue-in-cheek discussion of whether he’d sue the Heat or Rozier for the “emotional damages”:
    • “I may sue for damages.” – Dan Le Batard [22:58]
    • “What you’re really celebrating today is not just the release from the Terry Rozier imprisonment... It's also one of Mike's favorite things, which is just being right.” – Mike Ryan [27:41]

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Reckoning with NBA Leadership and Scandal

• The show's tone oscillates between panic over the integrity of the game and mocking the NBA’s handling under Adam Silver:
  • “The NBA investigated this piss poor investigation, it would seem... The NBA has a lot of tough questions to answer. Yet again, this... just keeps getting worse for Adam.” – Dan Le Batard [29:59]
• Historical perspective on gambling and scandals in sports:
  • Fixing games "has been a normal thing since the Black Sox scandal in 19..." – Mike Ryan [41:58]
  • “College hoops in particular... That is a cesspool of being fixed.” – Dan Le Batard [41:53]

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Miami Heat Season: Hope, Cynicism, and Rapid Fire Jokes

• Immediate Heat analysis amid breaking news:
  • “The Heat are going to be better than people think they are because they're going to score more. They're going to be fun but have the same problems at the end of games that they had last year.” – Dan Le Batard [06:42]
  • “Jaime Hawke as your point guard in crunch time... is not a good feeling.” – Chris Cody [39:51]
• Jokes about team history, player performance, and Damon Jones' infamous turnover:
  • “Damon Jones, throw the ball to Shaq. Look at that. He threw the ball away. Something was up. Now I know.” – Chris Cody [28:20]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I'm getting text messages congratulating me like I got a promotion.” – Dan Le Batard [03:39]
• “Put it on the poll at Le Batard show. Should Terry Rozier be arrested for his field goal percentage?” – Mike Ryan [29:24]
• “Hold on… Tim Donaghy, 06, Dwayne Warren. Wade's free throws were even now. We were jobbed.” – Dan Le Batard [28:47]
• “Should Terry Rozier be arrested first for being a crime against basketball, one of many felony counts.” – Mike Ryan [29:35]
• “A lot of this stuff is an IQ test.” – Dan Le Batard on how blithe participation in high-stakes illegal gambling is, even among pros [45:17]
• “I didn't like basketball… I had to find my smile.” – Dan Le Batard [23:19; 23:25]

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Underlying Themes

• Normalization of Gambling: Acceptance in society and sports; where to draw the regulatory line; whether it makes sports safer or riskier.
• Athlete Vulnerability: The culture of reckless competition and high-stakes gambling as an outlet for ex-athlete or off-the-court adrenaline.
• League Accountability: How ready—and able—the NBA is to police itself in the age of legalized sports betting partnerships and player empowerment.
• Personal Stakes: The emotional rollercoaster fans and even the show’s hosts experience when beloved (or hated) players become the eye of the storm.

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Key Timestamps

• 02:56 – Mike Ryan on NBA clearing Rozier vs. FBI arrest
• 03:22 – Mike Ryan's glee at Rozier's exit
• 04:00 – Mike Ryan: “You can only have so many Johnte Porters…”
• 10:04 – Arrival of seismic, rapidly changing news and speculation
• 11:05 – Le Batard on gambling normalization, data, and regulation
• 14:45 – Why high-stakes card games are illegal (explanation of mafia involvement)
• 22:58 – Le Batard's mock threat to sue for Heat fan "damages"
• 27:41 – Mike Ryan on being right about Rozier all along
• 29:24 – “Should Rozier be arrested for his field goal percentage?”
• 32:47 – Malik Beasley's name in DOJ announcement, per Pablo Torre
• 37:28 – Evidence of insider info in betting patterns
• 41:53 – College basketball called “a cesspool of being fixed”
• 45:17 – Le Batard: “A lot of this stuff is an IQ test.”
• 46:00+ – Meta-conversation about illegal poker, rules, and self-mockery

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Tone & Style

The conversation is loose, comedic, and fast-paced—mixing irreverent self-awareness with flashes of real concern about the sport’s future. The hosts oscillate between taking the scandal seriously and using it as fodder for classic banter, inside jokes, and local Miami sports grievances.

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Takeaways for Newcomers

• The NBA faces a major crisis, with arrests of big names like Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billups amid mafia-linked gambling investigations, shining a light on the risks of normalized, regulated betting in sports.
• The show’s hosts are deeply invested as both fans and social commentators, using this breaking news as a prism to discuss league accountability, the history of gambling in sports, and the blurred lines between legal and illegal, funny and tragic.
• Mike Ryan's open delight at Rozier’s Heat demise becomes a running joke—and a commentary on fandom, schadenfreude, and the personal impact of sports scandals.
• Signature blend of humor, rapid-fire sarcasm, and just enough reckless speculation to make Miami’s “Local Hour” essential listening for sports fans seeking both information and entertainment.

Transcript

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[Chris Cody]

Adam Silver's having a good year.

[Mike Ryan]

Cash Patel is going to do a dog and pony show at 10am to show everybody that it's all Terry Rosier's fault. He's joining us, Chris Cody, he's doing a press conference, something different. He's doing a 10am press conference that has engulfed the sport and the sports world so much that Chris Cody fed this kind of information that he doesn't have a lot of familiarity with. Says, look, Terry Rozier feeling kind of lucky today when Chauncey Billups, his name is associated with the gambling probe. And then I just hear from the Other side of the room. He's going to federal prison. Chris.

[Jeremy]

I didn't say he's happy.

[Chris Cody]

Happier. Yeah, but optics are important, Chris. You're right. He's happier than he was before the Chauncey thing dropped.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay. No, I think he is.

[Chris Cody]

He's like, God, he can be the lead now. I got second billing.

[Mike Ryan]

No, no. He was cleared by the NBA, and then the FBI says, no. The Fed say, no, you're not cleared. And all Mike Ryan is doing is trying to figure out how much salary cap does this space. Cause how much salary cap space is this team going to get because of the relief of finally, Terry Rozier, one of the least popular athletes in the history of South Florida, according to only Mike Ryan. Only Mike Ryan.

[Chris Cody]

Look at that smile on his face.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, this is one of the happiest days. I believe Mike playing happy music. I believe Mike Ryan is happier today than he was with either of the Panther championships.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ooh, it's right up there.

[Mike Ryan]

I think you're going to go over to 11 and start partying in the morning to celebrate that. Terry Rozier is coming off the book.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm getting text messages congratulating me like I got a promotion.

[Mike Ryan]

That part's weird.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was playing Katrina in the Waves this morning. I got a perma smile. Look at me. I'm my best self right now. That NBA investigation, we should talk a little bit about that. He was cleared by the NBA. I'm sure they'll turn it around with this whole Kawhi thing.

[Mike Ryan]

We're going to have David Sampson on to explain to us an unholy mess in the NBA. And this day has been coming for a while because you can only have so many Johnte Porters before people realize.

[Dan Le Batard]

A Hall of Famer got arrested.

[Chris Cody]

He has no business being in that hall of Fame.

[Mike Ryan]

Wait a minute. Don't make it a Hall of Famer. No, no, no.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, he is in this century, a face of the game. He is a Hall of Fame player, a champion, and a current head coach.

[Mike Ryan]

A Hall of Fame. A Hall of Fame. A Hall of Famer being arrested for this is not as big as an active coach being arrested for this. An active coach being arrested for this is a much bigger problem than hall of Famer was gambling Happier.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right? But you know, Chauncey Phillips is both.

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[Mike Ryan]

I think my favorite part of that opening video is how progressively worse your father's lip syncing gets over the course of time that we've been doing this. I thought I was going to start with two. Noah is now too small and can't see his receivers and is Johnny Manziel in another uniform. I thought I was going to start with the Heat are going to be better than people think they are because they're going to score more. They're going to be fun but have the same problems at the end of games that they had last year when you're trusting Norman Powell as your lead option or Tyler Hero as opposed to a different option. But that's going to be a playoff team this year if they stay healthy. But the place we're going to stay I'm imagining all show today is a really uncommon scandal. Multiple scandals now because Adam Schefter is wandering over from football to say that the Chauncey Billup report the arrest is about a separate gambling ring tied to the mafia and poker games and is not tied to betting on games. Terry Rozier has been arrested by by the Feds. And at 10am Cash Patel is going to have a press conference because the federal government is going to make a big show of arresting athletes who are misbehaving around money because the NBA may have cleared Terry Rozier and he's going to have some explaining to do today. But the feds have not cleared Terry Rozier. They have arrested him. And while an arrest is not guilt, it is still innocent until proven guilty. This is the kind of mess that the NBA did not ever want to have but knew it was coming as soon as gambling started becoming normalized. And I want people to understand I've written about this before when competitionaholics aren't on the court at the highest gladiator spectacle level of we play in front of millions every day. They're gambling and competing like that on airplanes in card games with giant amounts of money. And when you retire that doesn't like your money may be gone, but the desire to compete at that level, some people will call it just competition and get rewarded for it. Others will call it gambling addiction. And all of a sudden you're in way over your head. Very few of the people who escalate to the place that Terry Rozier now finds himself in see it coming as it escalates and as debts rise and as they realize, wait, wait a minute. I've been gambling like this on airplanes my life. What do you mean? I'm in trouble now that I can't afford it.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, so at the risk of sounding super ignorant, Chauncey Billups, apparently he has. He has been arrested by the FBI in connection with illegal gambling tied to the Mafia. We're talking poker games, stuff like that. What, that's illegal to play poker games?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, the tied to the Mafia thing I think is something to look at. And I know you mentioned Adam Schefter who shared the story, but it was ABC's reporting that said, while it's separate, some games may have connection to this poker game in their investigation, there seems to be a tether like, we'll see and we'll apologize for any news that we get wrong or conjecture as this is a lot of news coming in a quick amount of time. NBC News went out and reported that the things that surround Chauncey Billups don't involve any games that he was actively coaching.

[Mike Ryan]

Yet there will be more names and more information coming out over the course of the day. And I will reiterate what Mike just said. Forgive us if we're a little sloppy here on the front end as this is a lot of stuff happening early in the morning and it's pretty seismic. Okay. Because it's no longer Johntay Porter and some prop bets. You now have names associated with gambling that make this the risk that has always been involved, that the leagues were always afraid of. I've told you before, Zaslo, one of the great shocks of my lifetime is seeing the NFL in, in Vegas, having an NFL team in Vegas, given what the NFL was for 10 years in terms of being vigilant about, we have to be very careful that nothing affects the integrity of our games. So we're going to have a whole lot of. I'm assuming Terry Rozier is just the start. They don't do this kind of show at 10am involving the federal government if they've just got Terry Rozier.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, there's been a lot of dog and pony shows lately to distract people from God knows what. But. But I would say that. I know. Let's address the elephant in the room. Our show is presented by DraftKings and a lot of people are going where you're going, which is like, well, if this is legal in more states, then what do you think is going to happen? Gambling is not new. Athletes. Gambling is not new. What is new is this being a regulated market and these companies sharing data with their league partners because bookies aren't flagging things to the NBA. That's what's different. The only thing that's different in terms of society is these betting partners are now sharing data and you're able to catch these people because this has been going on for a very long time and a lot of people, a lot of great names have gotten away with it.

[Chris Cody]

I'm glad you pointed that out because that's obviously going to be a major talking point today, that this is why it's terrible for these pro leagues to be in bed with. With the gambling companies. And that is just not true. Because how many Terry Rose years have they been over the last hundred years before it was regulated? The fact that we have this relationship now and that it is legal and in most states and it is regulated is why we're able to catch guys like Terry Rozier. This is actually a good thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

You can buck up against that and say availability. You all right there, pal? I know it's accessible, but it's accessible to sloppy criminals.

[Mike Ryan]

Hold on, hold on. Okay. To. To say that Terry Rozier is involved in a gambling probe that involves his federal arrest and that Chauncey Billups is playing poker games with the mafia. I'm not willing to say just yet that this is good. Give me a day. Give me a day to process the information arriving on my doorstep. That is different than any I've seen that involves a coach in a maf Mafia poker game. Before I say this is good, the integrity of sport matters. You have to know that the result is legitimate. Every single time we're talking about these games decided by these super thin margins, you have to have the comfort as a customer that none of what you're watching is professional wrestling, that everything that you're watching is real and uncompromised by some of these immoralities. That can be a very, very Thin lines as between. Chauncey Billups is in mafia poker games. Chauncey Billups is making game time decisions that affect the results of the games. As the leader and coach. I'm not willing to go where you are yet. I'm not willing to go where CA Patel is yet either because they're going to make a big show of this and I will wait to see what is actually true and what isn't true. You are correct when you are saying there are more chances to catch people and throw them into the light. I will reserve judgment on whether that's good on the customer to see how many athletes are doing this. Wait a minute. It was as a dirty secret. That was in private. I liked it better than when I knew that my results.

[Chris Cody]

That's fair.

[Mike Ryan]

That my results might not be fishy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I appreciate you tugging on the opposite side of the line but illegal card games with the mafia have nothing to do with sportsbooks being legal in individual.

[Chris Cody]

Again, why is it illegal?

[Mike Ryan]

Why?

[Chris Cody]

What makes a card game illegal?

[Mike Ryan]

I mean you can't track any of the income. You can't track anything. That's the mafia and the, and the mafia aspect and the amount of money involved. And I know I'm going to say this again, okay, look up Gilbert Arenas, his career earnings for me, please. You guys don't understand what these poker games are on these flights. The amount of money involved, the amount of fights because of the amount of money. The amount of money you have to be betting for it to. To matter. For Tyrone Hill to get punched by Charles Oakley because things have escalated to such a place that now you're fighting your teammates, your brothers, your fellow soldiers because an amount of money that hurts you on a plane when Sean McVeigh would have his ram sleeping. The amount of money that you've lost on a plane makes. Makes team chemistry worse because all of a sudden two guys don't like each other because somebody just lost a quarter million dollars on the plane.

[Chris Cody]

Gilbert Arenas has made 163 million in his 13 year career.

[Mike Ryan]

So, so he. I don't know what the true details are. I've seen some of what's reported. I don't know what happened with Gilbert Arenas and what kind of circles he's running in.

[Chris Cody]

And for people don't remember. It was a couple of months ago he was arrested for like renting out a home to a big, you know.

[Dan Le Batard]

Poker out on bail turned it into content. There is a lot of illegal poker games that happen pretty much with impunity. I think the Connection to the Mafia, a criminal enterprise for those that don't know is. And the fact that from reporting from NBC, this does seem to be related to the NBA in some form or fashion. It's not a coincidence that these things are coming out at the exact same time. I don't believe.

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[Stugats]

All these high paid analysts, I don't want to mention names. Tnt, espn, you know. Oh yeah, they are dead. They cannot, they're not going to make it, you know, even if they win in, if they lose in Miami.

[Mike Ryan]

I need to calm you down.

[Stugats]

That's right. If they lose in Miami, they don't get a chance in Boston or they are going to have their ass. You know what? In Boston, you know, Stugats, they were wrong. They were. Are they going to lose their job?

[Mike Ryan]

No.

[Stugats]

Are they going to get a cutting page? No. What are they going to do?

[Chris Cody]

Keep predicting.

[Stugats]

What is the obvious. They're going to say, oh, the Nuggets are going to win. Oh, Denver, the attitude. And you know what? The Heat are going to win it all. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Mike Ryan]

We will find out together on some of this stuff. Apparently Damon Jones has now also been arrested.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's always the guy you expect the most.

[Chris Cody]

You know what that turnover in game seven in 2000, like we had the lead with 90 seconds left. It was such a bad giveaway. Just give the ball to Shaq. This makes so much sense now.

[Mike Ryan]

Damon Jones Amin has. We're behaving like a real news operation. Amin has now just flown to Pablo's side in New York. He was supposed to be here today, but Pablo is out in front on this story. Some of his producers.

[Dan Le Batard]

I won't.

[Mike Ryan]

I won't name them. Have been calling Shams a bootlicker because they beat him by two minutes to this story, and they have more information. Pablo's team has been following this for a while, and so we're going to get more and more information as today progresses. But the thing that I wanted to stop you on, again, when you say this is a good thing, I want to go ahead and let you imagine. Just imagine if I told you right now, hey, did you guys know that SPO was, like, friends with the Mafia? Did you guys know that there were poker games? Like, you see how it's not a big stretch? Like, once you're playing the poker game with the Mafia, it's not a big stretch to. They get into you, and now all of a sudden you got a Tim Donaghy situation. Like, it's just not. Nobody thinks I'm. Nobody thinks. When Terry Rozier is being arrested and hauled off to jail by the feds, he did not see this escalating to this point. Wherever it is that he was gambling and doing, whatever it is that he was doing, this is not the end result that he considered, or he never would have done it if he thought that this was the risk that. Wait a minute. My career is immediately over. My ability to make $26 million a year is immediately over. It's the same thing I used to say when Michael Vick got arrested for dog fighting. There's simply no way he thought that those were the consequences on dog fighting, or he would have stopped dog fighting.

[Chris Cody]

Terry Rozier definitely so bad at hiding it. Too many airballs.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm a victim in all of this. The Miami Heat are victims. The salary should come off the books. We were defrauded the same way Steve Ballmer alleges he was defrauded. This is bad. The league needs to do something about this. I may sue for damages.

[Chris Cody]

You need damages. I saw what you became over the last year since. I didn't recognize that person.

[Jeremy]

I don't.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't. I didn't like basketball.

[Chris Cody]

I didn't like the person I saw.

[Dan Le Batard]

I had to. I had to find my smile.

[Chris Cody]

You lost your joy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I lost my smile.

[Chris Cody]

You found it this morning.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, I did.

[Dan Le Batard]

Katrina and the waves helped.

[Mike Ryan]

It's a good song. I should point out that according to NBC News, Damon Jones, who has been arrested by the FBI in connection, got.

[Chris Cody]

Soup thrown in his face.

[Mike Ryan]

With the charges being announced today, there is no indication that he is tied to bets on games he played, according to two sources familiar with the matter. No matter what Zaslo is claiming About a turnover 20 years ago, with 90 seconds left in the game, we were up by two.

[Chris Cody]

We were about to go to the finals. So give it a Shaq.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, Shaq.

[Chris Cody]

Give it a Shaq.

[Jeremy]

He was an underachiever. There's an update in the ABC News article that says Miami Heat guard Terry Rozier and former Cleveland Cavaliers player and assistant coach Damon Jones were also charged in separate but related illegal gambling case. They're among six people charged Thursday with turning professional basketball into a criminal gambling operation by using inside information to place unlawful wagers. So while not necessarily betting themselves on games that they played in, this does sort of tie to what you're talking about, Dan, which is who knows who you have debt to and what you then need to turn these games into.

[Mike Ryan]

I understand that it's more regulated than it's ever been, and I would also say it's just as hard to regulate as it's ever been because the more normal it gets, the less wrong people think it is. And those people where uniforms and those people have debt and those people have competition problems and those people have their own addictions and their people, those people have a lack of awareness, and some of them are going to get arrested for doing the wrong things. When you have more regulation and more normalization that requires what is presently happening for people to realize what the consequences are of what they're actually doing. Because I assure you, Michael Vick wasn't the only one fighting dogs. But I bet you it lessened after that when everyone realized how wrong it was to fight dogs. Gambling Isn't this kind of wrong? Gambling is now a super normal thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. The NCAA just said that players and coaches can do this beginning November 1st.

[Mike Ryan]

Players in the NCAA can gamble on pro games, not college games. They still can't gamble on college games.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I've been gambling Since I was 18 and I did so in it. And I did so in a state where I couldn't. I probably shouldn't be saying that, but I'm not. Maybe I'm jaded. I don't think there's really a huge influx in Gambling just because you see ads for DraftKings or you see it courtside? I really don't. I think the people that are gambling to this level in these sports have access to all that stuff and always have. And I just don't think it's more prevalent. I think more dumb people are doing it. We've seen a lot in the state of Iowa when it comes to their college football teams. A lot of people don't understand how these league partners share data. And so you're having a lot of small fishes, but. Small fish, but I think the big fish, the card games, the guys trying to get one less rebound in a game, I think that that's been happening way longer than. Than most people would like to admit.

[Mike Ryan]

Are you indeed seeking counsel? To sue whom? Who are you suing? The Miami Heat? Terry Rozier? The NBA?

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Who do we come after?

[Mike Ryan]

Who are you suing for? What your experience as a Heat fan has been. Look, you were, I heard, no one in the country. No one in the country as sour on the Miami Heat trading for Terry Rozier as you were. In fact, fact, I'm pretty sure that you left the Miami Heat in many of the similar ways that you left the Cleveland Browns because they acquired Terry Rozier. You were so upset that they acquired such a wildly inefficient player that you have said that it is that he is the least popular player in Heat history, according to you. And they've never made a transaction that has hurt you more personally than signing Terry Rozier. So you are. What you're really celebrating today is not just the release from the Terry Rozier imprisonment, not just the salary cap space. It's also one of Mike's favorite things, which is just being right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, yeah, it's the best. Oh, I shorted this stock long ago. And as someone that has been screaming at his television, that person should be in jail for years on end. This is a dream come true. Honestly. You love it when the bad guys get caught.

[Chris Cody]

I'm telling you, like, I'm happy for you that you're able to get your joy back. But then there's another side of this where it was one of the worst nights of my life. At that time, the Miami Heat had never been to an NBA Finals. They were ahead with two minutes left.

[Mike Ryan]

And look.

[Chris Cody]

Look at this, Dan. I remember it clear as day. Damon Jones. There it is. Damon Jones. The Heat were ahead by two. Just like I said.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was indeed a playoff score in 2005.

[Chris Cody]

They were ahead. They were ahead by two with two minutes left in game seven. And Damon Jones just throw the ball to Shaq. Look at that. He threw the ball away. Something was up. Now I know.

[Dan Le Batard]

And you know who else was playing in this game?

[Mike Ryan]

Who?

[Dan Le Batard]

Chauncey Billups. Oh, Gotta overturn that result.

[Stugats]

Time to throw away doll journalistic credibility and get reckless. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation.

[Chris Cody]

Don't do it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on. You're good.

[Mike Ryan]

Hold on a second. You gotta wait for Roy's. You're good.

[Dan Le Batard]

Before you look. Tim Donaghy, 06, Dwayne Warren. Wade's free throws were even now. We were jobbed.

[Mike Ryan]

Damon Jones makes that bad pass at 2 minutes, 2 seconds. Tayshaun Prince steals the ball. Richard, you got Shaq. Richard Hamilton makes a three foot jumper five seconds later.

[Dan Le Batard]

And 20 years later, the Heat acquired Terry Rozier. Look, I know 06 was controversial, but we've paid for it in droves.

[Mike Ryan]

So you're alleging that Terry Rozier should be arrested today for being a crime against basketball?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, just for his field goal percentage. I think that's one of the charges. We'll see when the great KP talks.

[Mike Ryan]

Put it, put it on the poll at Le Batard show. I love that. I do love that. The guy arresting them is named Cash.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, the podcaster. He works hard.

[Mike Ryan]

Put it, put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Should Terry Rozier be arrested for his field goal percentage? And also put on the poll, should Terry Rozier be arrested first for being a crime against basketball, one of many felony counts.

[Dan Le Batard]

There are so many things popping up. It's going to be like whack a mole. But I do want to follow the vine. That's that Zaz established a hell of a year for Adam Silver. Oh, yeah.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, a lot of trust in him.

[Dan Le Batard]

The NBA. A lot of this fell on Shams because Shams reported just the news that the NBA cleared Terry Rozier of any wrongdoing. And now the FBI has arrested Terry Rozier for wrongdoing. The NBA investigated this piss poor investigation, it would seem. Just reading the game as we see it this morning, the NBA has a lot of tough questions to answer. Yet again, this. You, you. It just keeps getting worse for Adam.

[Chris Cody]

That's why I have no faith in Adam Silver doing anything about Kawhi Leonardo. I have no faith.

[Dan Le Batard]

No. Kawhi's probably a little nervous because like, here comes the overcorrection.

[Jeremy]

The real question is, should Damon Jones be arrested for not passing a Shaq?

[Chris Cody]

I'm telling you, Dan, I remembered it how Do I remember it almost 20 years later like it was yesterday. I knew something was fishy. I knew it.

[Dan Le Batard]

But then the Adam Silver conversation, because before this, we were saying he's gone from the regarded as the best commissioner in sports to the worst of the major sports. And hold my beer. We just got way worse than ever.

[Mike Ryan]

The storyline on this is easy to track, right? David Stern was going to be very difficult to replace. You never follow the guy.

[Chris Cody]

What a commissioner.

[Mike Ryan]

Who is the guy? David Stern never behaved as if he worked for the owners. It always felt like the owners had to behave because of how David Stern was behaving. It made him different from most commissioners not named. Kennesaw Mountain Landis, like most commissioners, had been pushovers for a long time. Pretending like the owners aren't in charge while everyone knows that the owners are in charge. David Stern handed that over to Silver. We were going to have a lot of questions. And then the first thing Silver does is win public opinion during the time by taking an owner's team immediately. And it wasn't because David. It isn't because Adam Silver is such a great commissioner. It's because all the other owners were already embarrassed by Donald Sterling and wanted him out for an assortment of other reasons. And so what looked like a hard decision that was made swiftly was actually an easy decision that was made over a long period of time. And that was the last drop in the buck. So that's where Adam Silver got best and most progressive commissioner in the league. And since then, the league has had a number of different difficulties. But if you were measuring this the way that you measure Goodell, you'd say Silver's a great commissioner because he makes the league a lot of money. But that's not the way you do it with Silver. For some reason, that's not the way you do it with Silver. The league feels like it's got a lot of different problems, but one of the problems it doesn't have is money. That's not a problem. They've got all sorts of new revenue streams. The thing that he's going to have.

[Dan Le Batard]

Malik Beasley's fate also hinges on this Department of Just justice announcement that is coming later today, according to Pablo Torre, and that Malik Beasley was previously investigated and cleared by the NBA. As we know, that doesn't mean Jack anymore for making a bet or two in another sport. Pablo goes on to cite a source that says the NBA is under strict confidentiality, but you can't control what the government releases.

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Stugats]

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[Mike Ryan]

Terry Rozier has all has earned over $133 million in his 10 year career. His current heat contract is 26.6 million million. To the point you guys were making about the fact that gambling is more normalized and you know that we think that draftkings is the greatest partner we've ever had by leaps and bounds. The regulation of these things make it so that we know the following and it becomes hard to explain why the NBA cleared rosier on what I'm about to say. The original detail on the Rozier reporting which is a professional better placed 30 wagers in 46 minutes all involving Terry Rozier in a 2023 game.

[Chris Cody]

Dude's got a problem.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, that's the problem is that he had too much information and he knew he was going to win. Like you don't make that many bets on just Terry Rozier unless you've got inside information. That's the thing. When you guys say this is more regulated than it's ever been. That kind of information is more available to the leagues than it's ever been. Which becomes the question how did the league clear Terry Rozier? How did Shams report that the league cleared Terry Rozier and there were no follow up questions until now. In 30 minutes there's going to be a press conference where Cash Patel answers a bunch of follow up questions.

[Chris Cody]

I mean because the commissioner of the league is the same one who said he's never heard of aspirations. I mean that's like that's how I'd.

[Mike Ryan]

Like some answers to questions. They're usually not quite as simple as the knee jerk reaction you can have moments after partial information has arrived.

[Chris Cody]

I could connect the dots.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not the most journalistic of things to do the connecting of dots but it's all we have at the moment until a half hour from now they give us some more information on dots connected Will we have the unprecedented situation where we break in live to. Should we do this? Should we just break in live to an FBI director's press conference about sports? Because it involves a Miami Heat player. The Miami Heat are going to be fun to watch. They're going to play. That's. That is the fastest game I've ever seen the Heat play. Like, that's. The Miami Heat have never played a game faster than the one they played last night. That is the fastest recorded game in the history of the Miami Heat. Only, only, only the Raptors and Hawks have played a faster game this year.

[Jeremy]

It was electric. They scored 39 points in the first quarter. I think that's the second most they've ever scored in a first quarter of an opening game. And the pace, like they made the Magic play at their pace. A team that's, that's defensive oriented and they were just running all night. Simone Fontechio. Simone Fontechio with 13 points running in the open court. It was a lot of fun to watch. And Davion Mitchell, like 11 assists because.

[Chris Cody]

He'S just passing the ball up the court.

[Jeremy]

Norman Powell. It was a lot of fun to watch.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes, you mentioned that it was. I had fun.

[Chris Cody]

It was really fun for me to watch.

[Jeremy]

They lost by 40 in game one to the Magic last year. They lost by four last night.

[Mike Ryan]

The Magic are good.

[Chris Cody]

Jaime Hawke has as your point guard in crunch time. Minutes though, is not a good feeling. The game was fun, but they got swept in the playoffs last year. They lost all of their preseason games. They lost last night. Like I like them to win a game sometimes.

[Jeremy]

That would be fun.

[Dan Le Batard]

That'd be more fun.

[Chris Cody]

Consecutive losses, like let's, let's mix in a win.

[Mike Ryan]

They're going to play fast and I believe they will be a playoff team, but they're going to have trouble at the end of games. So many of these games are decided late and everybody stops running at the end of the game. Like at the end, toward the end of the game, you're not allowed to run around like that.

[Jeremy]

That is where Tyler Herro will help.

[Mike Ryan]

Help.

[Jeremy]

He is their best half court player and last night they don't have him. Jaime Hawkes is out there, like Chris said, running the offense. And to have both Norman Powell and Tyler Herro available to you. Norman Powell is really good and having an opportunity to really be the man here for the first few weeks will be great for him. But he was a borderline all star last year and having another all star guard next to him offensively will Be helpful at the end of the games. It doesn't mean they'll necessarily come through with all stars of them.

[Chris Cody]

Dan, I got a text from my father last night, likes to text me during the games local teams play. I got a text from my father last night at 7:36pm and all it says is I don't know any of the Heat players.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm watching the coverage of this. This is, I mean, you understand why it's rocked the sporting world. I'm telling you though, like, you got your eyes on Terry Rosier and Chauncey Billups. When in 2002 do you have your eyes on Marist vs Ryder? Because in college it should happen. Was this shit was always happening. Always. Like you would see it on the blogs, you would see it on message boards. And now whether or not it played out that way, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. But there has been people fixing basketball games in particular forever. Forever. And I'm glad basketball's the like.

[Chris Cody]

Like forget the individual college hoops in particular.

[Dan Le Batard]

That is a cesspool of being fixed.

[Chris Cody]

But basketball is the easiest of the major team sports, right?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, you can just get one player. That's why you can affect the game more directly. I suppose you can get a pitcher in baseball, but it's easier to fix basketball games because you just have to get in bed with one player. And so Mike's not wrong when he says that this has been a normal thing since the Black Sox scandal in 19 where you can have compromised athletes, athletes who are in debt. I've told you the story before. Travis Henry, the Buffalo Bills running back, had, I'm going to say eight children and had a very short career span. So what happens when he leaves the NFL and has gotten used to that lifestyle? He gets caught for selling an enormous amount of drugs because there's no other way to make giant amounts of money. You know how there is? Play a giant poker game. Play. Play games where the gambling stakes are. One flip of a card means a ton of money. But then when you get debt, you get an arrest. And I don't know the details obviously on Chauncey Billups, I don't know how he could just be having fun poker games because he as a coach makes $4 million a year and it's just a lot of fun. But everywhere there can be a debt. In one of these games, if you're playing against mafia guys that you think are your friends, where next thing you know, you're underwater and you were. You didn't even know you were swimming, you didn't know you were swimming and all of a sudden you're drowning.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm going to try to paint a picture where like one of the reports is inside information. And this is all just theorizing and conjecture. Right. But you're at a poker game, someone asks you, what do you think about the, what do you think about the Nuggets? Well, Jokic has an angle thing that most people don't know about. Boom. Inside information. It could be like that, it could be used like that.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, more to the point, I would say that the best of professional gamblers, not the sloppy ones, but the ones who know how to make it a business and the ones who know how to make it an occupation, they traffic in information. It's the most valuable thing. Inside information is the most valuable thing. When you're talking about a half point buys you victory. A half a point is all you need as an advantage when you're a professional gambler to be on the right side of winning. The information brokering that goes on in sports. I don't need to explain to anybody why Chauncey Billups can't be in a poker game with mafia members. Right. Why the coach of an NBA team can't be in a poker game with mafia members.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, also we got to find out, do they introduce themselves as that? Hello. What do you do for a living? I'm in a criminal enterprise.

[Chris Cody]

I just gotta throw it like you're Chauncey Billups. Cuz you're right. Everything you just said, how stupid can you be? How stupid are you?

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, seriously, I can, I can see where a game of poker that you show up at don't necessarily know who's at it, what they do.

[Chris Cody]

You don't want to know who's at a super high stakes poker game you're about to show up at.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think the whole idea is you, you're not supposed to.

[Chris Cody]

But it doesn't cross your mind that maybe, is it possible these are bad people because you know, I'm an NBA head coach. Oh, how stupid can you be?

[Dan Le Batard]

I, I, I get it. A lot of this stuff is an IQ test. But again, it's especially dumb in the pros. It is because of how regulated this thing is. But in college or baked into the sport is half the time, what kind of shot is that?

[Mike Ryan]

That.

[Dan Le Batard]

What is this kid doing? They're all developing. So like college basketball. Like I said, cesspool.

[Mike Ryan]

They're not, they're not all developing. Some of them are G leaguers. Now in college basketball.

[Chris Cody]

Where's the line on this? Because I had a 20 buy in at my house like 2 weeks ago. Am I good?

[Mike Ryan]

You're good.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. No, no jail. Where's the line?

[Chris Cody]

You just draw snitched player, 20 buy in. Five people, 100 bucks.

[Mike Ryan]

Come on.

[Dan Le Batard]

What are we doing here? No small claim.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, that is an illegal game though. That's what I mean.

[Chris Cody]

Where's the line?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, that's illegal.

[Dan Le Batard]

But I guess though, keep talking, we'll find out.

[Chris Cody]

Hope your name isn't called in 30 minutes.

[Mike Ryan]

I would assume my trouble. I wonder journalistically, I've told you guys before, the rules on this have probably changed. But there was a time in my life where I was not allowed to take anything that had more than a $25 value. Like I could take a bag from you and that wasn't compromising my integrity.

[Dan Le Batard]

Or should I say yay.

[Mike Ryan]

But not anything that's worth over $25. I'm going to say that a $20 buy in is so pathetic that the authorities would not be concerned in any way there. I'm going to say that that's what Chauncey did. This is what I'm saying. I'm mean people. I'm saying there are people who have dedicated their lives to monkhood and religion who are laughing at how small time a game you're playing.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's true. Like maybe it was bigger. And I'm afraid I was worried that I revealed like, hey, in the state of Florida, I sent a couple western unions when I was 19 years old. They care about money made. We gotta arrest this guy for losing $7,000 over the course of 10 years.

[Chris Cody]

Get my friend Joey.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, so you guys think that minorities are safe to commit small crimes in today's America? Do you?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, they can't fish, apparently.

[Mike Ryan]

If you think that they won't get you on federal wire fraud across state lines for something too admitted to.

[Stugats]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Dan Le Batard]

Easy. Don't pay me like that again. Everything that I say here can't be taken seriously. I am a character.

[Mike Ryan]

What do you mean again? That's the first time you're revealing that.

[Dan Le Batard]

I am a character.

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

Hold on a second. Oh my God. This is infuriating right here. Let me explain. Let me see what I have here. I have to have something.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm saying this on the record.

[Mike Ryan]

That penalizes.

[Dan Le Batard]

You'll pick anything.

[Chris Cody]

Concentrate.

[Dan Le Batard]

I am playing a role.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Translation.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, that wasn't the right button to hit. Tremendous song is tremendous show. But here we go.

[Chris Cody]

Minor penalty.

[Mike Ryan]

Two minutes for explaining the show. I don't know why you're starting your sentence with again. I, a character. You've never before revealed you're a character.

[Dan Le Batard]

We can't lose.

[Mike Ryan]

Another cast member, Amin just fled the premises. Like Pablo just took him. Amin was here to do the show with us today. I wanted to talk about inside the NBA. They didn't change it. ESPN left it alone. Good.

[Chris Cody]

How about Barkley?

[Mike Ryan]

Very skinny.

[Chris Cody]

Very you A little worried. Needs new suits.

[Jeremy]

Okay.

[Chris Cody]

Does he plan on going bigger again? Because he just had his suit is just too big. Like he's rich. You'd think he for opening night he'd get a suit that fits.

[Mike Ryan]

But you guys have him as too skinny here, you have him as too fit here.

[Chris Cody]

It's like blousy. I'd call that suit.

[Mike Ryan]

It's got to be hard to fluctuate by a hundred pounds. And you're not going to have all of the same right fitting suits. But you're right that on the first opening. Opening night, he should have one that fits correctly. Did he do Ozempic? Yes. Okay.

[Jeremy]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Jeremy]

Is that an exclusive report? Do you happen to know.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, my God. Did I just reveal something I wasn't supposed to Happens to know. I think I just.

[Dan Le Batard]

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