Local Hour: That's How You Play Hockey

Summary

Summary of "Local Hour: That's How You Play Hockey" – The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Release Date: June 10, 2025

In this episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz," hosts Dan LeBatard and Stugotz delve into the intense and often chaotic world of playoff hockey, specifically focusing on a recent Panthers vs. Oilers game. Joined by co-hosts Chris Cody, Dominique Foxworth, Roy Bellamy, and Zaslow, the team offers a blend of insightful analysis, humor, and spirited debate on various aspects of the game, player performances, and the unique challenges of attending hockey events in the sweltering South Florida heat.

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1. South Florida Heat and Arena Conditions

The episode kicks off with a lighthearted discussion about the oppressive South Florida heat and its impact on both players and fans attending hockey games.

• Dan LeBatard (00:55):
  "We're officially at the time of year and it's about to get hotter where I walk out of the house and my forearms immediately start sweating. That happens fast."

• Dominique Foxworth (01:07):
  "Oh, what a time. The whole hockey world is rooting for Connor McDavid."

• Chris Cody (01:59):
  "The walk from the parking lot to the arena entrance last night yesterday was not good."

The hosts humorously lament the challenging trek from parking to the arena, comparing the area to "alligator wrestling" and emphasizing the unique environment of South Florida hockey venues.

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2. Analysis of the Panthers vs. Oilers Game

The primary focus of the episode is a detailed breakdown of a particularly rough Panthers vs. Oilers playoff game, highlighting its physicality and the strategies employed by both teams.

a. Physical Play and Penalties

The game was marked by extreme aggression, resulting in an unprecedented number of penalty minutes in the closing minutes.

• Dan LeBatard (05:09):
  "French onion's a great nominee. I would think it a first ballot hall of famer."

• Roy Bellamy (10:40):
  "But what you're saying to us is as if we are in that world. We all recognize we're not in that world."

The hosts discuss how the Panthers' aggressive tactics, including numerous fights and penalties, were instrumental in disrupting the Oilers' gameplay.

b. Injuries Discussed

A significant portion of the conversation centers around the severe injuries sustained during the game, sparking a debate on the dangers of such physicality in hockey.

• Roy Bellamy (12:03):
  "Frank Ragnow fractured his throat."

• Dan LeBatard (14:00):
  "Put it on the poll. What's worse, fractured throat or fractured testicle?"

The discussion touches on the implications of these injuries, comparing their severity and the players' resilience in high-stakes situations.

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3. Team Tactics and Performance

The Panthers' strategy to "break down" the Oilers mentally and physically is scrutinized, with the hosts praising their depth and adaptability.

• Dominique Foxworth (07:04):
  "We broke them mentally."

• Dan LeBatard (43:56):
  "They listen to me. Remember I was saying, like, get in his way when he's going down."

The team highlights how the Panthers effectively targeted key Oilers players, such as Connor McDavid, to gain a competitive edge in the series.

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4. Player and Fan Behavior

The episode delves into the behaviors exhibited by players and fans alike, addressing concerns about the normalization of violence in playoff hockey.

• Dan LeBatard (37:59):
  "That violence down there, that's making tough men bleed. That's normal playoff hockey."

• Dominique Foxworth (44:12):
  "The Oilers will be great on Thursday. Thursday will be scary."

The hosts express frustration with the aggressive nature of the game and its impact on players' well-being, while also discussing fan reactions and the broader cultural implications.

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5. Humorous Segments on Soups

Adding a touch of levity, the hosts engage in a spirited and humorous debate about the best soups, seamlessly integrating this tangent into the broader conversation.

• Dan LeBatard (05:09):
  "French onion's a great nominee. I would think it a first ballot hall of famer."

• Dan LeBatard (07:22):
  "Is gazpacho a goddamn soup? Because I'm saying it's not."

The playful exchange includes discussions on whether cold soups like gazpacho qualify as genuine soups, showcasing the hosts' camaraderie and wit.

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6. Upcoming Games and Future Outlook

Looking ahead, the hosts speculate on the remaining games in the series and the potential outcomes, emphasizing the high stakes and unpredictable nature of playoff hockey.

• Dominique Foxworth (44:12):
  "The Oilers will be great on Thursday. Thursday will be scary."

• Roy Bellamy (44:08):
  "They're gonna be great on Thursday for sure."

The conversation underscores the ongoing tension in the series, with both teams vying for dominance and adjusting their strategies accordingly.

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7. Humorous Banter and Closing Thoughts

The episode concludes with the hosts sharing amusing anecdotes, playful jabs at each other, and reflections on the night's game, leaving listeners entertained and eager for the next installment.

• Roy Bellamy (36:33):
  "That picture says, love it or leave it, asshole."

• Dan LeBatard (36:38):
  "That picture says, you getting these guns out of my cold dead hands."

The lighthearted exchanges serve to balance the intense analysis, highlighting the show's signature blend of humor and sports commentary.

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Overall, this episode of "Local Hour" offers a comprehensive and engaging exploration of a rollercoaster playoff hockey game, enriched with memorable quotes, insightful analysis, and the trademark humor that listeners have come to love from Dan LeBatard and Stugotz.

Transcript

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[Dan LeBatard]

If you thought the show was hockey annoying before the way that Chris Cody swaggered in here today. Part swagger, part jiggle.

[Chris Cody]

A lot of jiggle.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, what a time. The whole hockey world is rooting for Connor McDavid. We should be rooting for Connor McDavid all time. Great story. Nope. Florida Sunrise Heat, not the Miami Heat. It's just hot down here. What a time. 6 1.

[Stugotz]

The world's been around for a billion years. We happen to be alive at the time that we could watch that last night.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, speaking of it being hot at the moment, we're officially at the time of year and it's about to get hotter where I walk out of the house and my forearms immediately start sweating. That happens fast. I'm not even talking about. I'm not even moving yet. My, my. There's such swampiness here. Do you understand how mad that makes Canada that they can't take the trophy out of the quicksand in the swamp?

[Dominique Foxworth]

It's that time of year where you park your car at your house and it's like gotta walk inside now, man.

[Chris Cody]

The walk from the parking lot to the arena entrance last night yesterday was not good.

[Dan LeBatard]

Brutal.

[Chris Cody]

Not good at all.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, this is a funny complaint because Sunrise is spread out. It's in the Everglades. It's basically a whole bunch of airboats and then just asphalt and the Stanley Cup. It's a weird place for is super strange. I'm not kidding you when I'm saying you're closer to alligator wrestling than you are to the rest of civilization.

[Roy Bellamy]

Sounds like nobody did two a days in full pass.

[Zaslow]

Amen.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sounds like to me it's hotter than it's ever been. This is the worst. It's Ever been?

[Roy Bellamy]

I can't imagine walking or you walked all the way from a car to a building. Oh, my gosh. Oh, let's rescue these guys. We should probably get them some motor scooters.

[Dan LeBatard]

That arena, that would help. For people who don't understand that arena, the parking lot is one place and then the arena is the same way that the casinos in Vegas are right there. You can just walk to them. If you're willing to walk what looks like six blocks but is actually three miles.

[Roy Bellamy]

How many tackles you gotta make between there and the arena though?

[Chris Cody]

Depends on the ballet.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's gonna always have that card on us. That he put a hand in the dirt. That his hotter was hotter than our hot because he played football.

[Roy Bellamy]

Still got some grit under these nails.

[Dominique Foxworth]

How long are each of those practices? Two a days, two hours, four hours. That's one you practice once.

[Dan LeBatard]

I am not kidding you when I say I feel bad for the Miami Dolphins this time of year. I feel terrible. I don't know. I don't care how much they're paid to be in pads in this weather again. I leave the house before I get to the sidewalk. My forearms are sweating.

[Roy Bellamy]

I'm talking trash. I did all my training camps were in Denver and Baltimore. And when I was president union, I was still an active player. And there was like something that took place in New Orleans, so I had to get on a flight and go to New Orleans. I went to New Orleans and got off the plane and almost retired on the spot. It was so damn thick down there in July.

[Dan LeBatard]

It was just thick cemetery hot.

[Roy Bellamy]

I got off the plane and it just felt like I was walking through soup. And I was like. And so I had to go talk to the team between two a day practices. I think it was like the bounty gate thing was popping and I had to go talk to them between practices. And I don't think anybody could hear anything because I assume they that in those conditions, most of your organs shut down and all the blood just goes to like your heart, your lungs and your brain. So I don't think there.

[Dan LeBatard]

When you say it's soup, are you saying like clam chowder? Because the other thing.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's what I was imagining.

[Dan LeBatard]

The other thing New Orleans does, though, is because the bodies are above ground, you also get the scent of death.

[Stugotz]

Lobster bisque is so good.

[Dan LeBatard]

It is so good.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, I think that's a better word. It felt like I stepped off the plane into a bisque.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the pole. Juju, please. Better soup. Lobster bisque or Clam chowder.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.

[Dan LeBatard]

What is the best of the soups?

[Chris Cody]

French onion.

[Dan LeBatard]

French onion's a great nominee. I would think it a first ballot hall of famer and it would be in any conversation on the soups. But we started with lobster bisque and we started with clam chowder.

[Roy Bellamy]

French onion is not a standalone soup.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Love where you're going with this.

[Roy Bellamy]

No one like, I think French onion, it comes along with a sandwich.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Makes me work too hard.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah. Like, give me French onion and I need something else. A clam chowder, though. A lobster bisque.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're having meal. You're having a standalone soup as a meal ever. I don't think there's any soup that makes it as a whole meal. A soups always a starter.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I don't like when a soup, I have to get my other hand involved and that, like, it was like break the cheese up and stuff. It's just. It's a difficult eat. I like the taste of it, but just overall, too much work for me.

[Roy Bellamy]

I think it depends on the circumstances. I agree with you. Most of the time it is a starter, but something about the creaminess of a bisque or a chowder feels more substantial. Like, I feel like there's a different category like chicken noodle soup. Chicken noodle soup's a meal.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, I want to see. No, it's not a meal. I will. I will. I'm willing to grant you when you have a cold, it's. It's not an entire meal. I am willing to grant you, though, that this can be an entire meal. But it's based on thickness. Correct. There are three soups and it's gotta be thick. And the bready stuff in the French onion is what's making it qualify. Are we all in on the fact who's getting into the rankings? If our gold, silver, and bronze medalists are clam chowder, lobster bisque, and French onion. On the high end, thick soups, decadent soups that pass for a meal. Is there anything else? Is there a fourth option?

[Roy Bellamy]

I feel like, I think what comes to mind is a soup that I would like to be kicked out of the soup family. Gazpacho.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Can't have a cold soup.

[Roy Bellamy]

Nah. I know you call it a soup. I get it, but I don't know. That's cereal. I don't know what it is.

[Zaslow]

It's cold tomato soup, but like the cold kind.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, the cold kind. But it feels thick. But I don't Want it?

[Dan LeBatard]

All right. I'm gonna allow it. As a poll question at Lebatard show. Should gazpacho be kicked out of the soup family? But I was not aware. Does it qualify, Qualify, indeed, as a soup? Because I think soups have to be warm. You can't be. You cannot be a soup if you are not warm. By definition, in my mind, yeah, it.

[Roy Bellamy]

Does qualify, I think. I mean, we can put it on the poll. But I do believe that people consider gazpacho a soup.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I love our Roy's like. It does qualify, unfortunately.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, it is unfortunate.

[Chris Cody]

It is very much.

[Dan LeBatard]

It is unfortunate because I put it on the pole at Levitar show. Does a soup have to be warm? And then put on the poll as well. Is gazpacho a goddamn soup? Because I'm saying it's not. I'm saying you can't be cold in a soup. And he's right. When he wants to kick it out of the soup family, I'm saying it shouldn't even be in the soup family. Why is it in the soup family? Zaslow seems happy. That's the best the Panthers can play, right? They cannot play better than that. Just suffocate, strangle dry Seidel and McDavid and make my analysis hours earlier seem spectacularly loud. Wrong. When I said with great conviction. We all know, right, that Edmonton is the one that can win a 61 game, not Florida.

[Chris Cody]

Well, it is the best they can play, but it's also the worst that the Olas can play. They were terrible. Absolutely terrible.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I thought it was a wacky game. Like, I don't even know if I would call that the best the Panthers could play. So many power plays. The third period was just a, like, chaos. The second period was the only period that actually felt like a hockey game. That first period. Evander Kane just. Roy, what is he doing? What a loser.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, he's out there trying to hurt people. It's not like his performance in game one where his physicality made a difference. He was out there swinging his stick, trying to hit him.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I feel like 80% of that third period a lot. That happens to every team. When there's a blowout in a playoff game, it's going to get chippy. 20% of that was over the line. Roy, are we going to look at any suspensions here?

[Chris Cody]

No. There might be a fine for Walman's spraying of the water bottle across the loser.

[Zaslow]

So wait, there was a thousand fights, 800 late hits, and we're finding the guy who Squirted the water bottle three feet to the other side and missed it.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He went across the line.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, well you with the made up stat 20% like where are you coming up with? If that had happened during a basketball game, the news coverage for a month would have been how out of control the NBA is if simply some of those fight.

[Dominique Foxworth]

But I'm telling you, when you get a game that gets to be 4 to 1, 5 to 1 in the playoffs, a lot of what you saw last night is going to happen with any two teams. Like you are going to get a team that is just needing what Dominique.

[Roy Bellamy]

You called it chippy. Like that wasn't chippy. Unless you talk about people chipping teeth. It wasn't chippy. Like they were actually. There was blood, it was tongues out. There were fists being thrown. It wasn't chippy.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I swear this. That wasn't that uncommon in a blowout playoff game.

[Stugotz]

I think you're right.

[Roy Bellamy]

You got to be specific. A blow off blowout playoff hockey game like that is out of control. There were a few other major sport.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Like the way Frederick went after Bennett that was over the line. There were a few cross like there were three or four things where I'm like they should take a look at that. But outside of that it was just blowouts.

[Roy Bellamy]

To be clear that it's. It's hockey because like if this happened in soccer, if one punch was thrown in in the MLS or in the NFL or NBA, like we can't call it chippy. Like it feels like you are under appreciating how violent that hockey match was or hockey game was because that's not chippy.

[Dan LeBatard]

This description of his is because what's been normalized is the barbaric savagery that is that sport this time of year. So Chris Cody feels comfortable Cheeto crumbs on his hand saying they should take a look at that. When someone's hitting someone else with a stick.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah, yeah.

[Stugotz]

I mean Tkachuk got speared and Chris.

[Dan LeBatard]

Is like sure is tippy. Can someone take a look at that? Look chippy.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And they aren't. I just asked Roy. He's like maybe there'll be a fine. They aren't even going to take a look.

[Dan LeBatard]

I was complaining about the walk in because I'm not tough enough to walk in from the parking lot. Take a look at that. It looks chippy down there. No, they hate each other. They're fighting for the cup. And hockey allows these people to be more primitive than any athletes roaming the earth and gives them Blades on their feet.

[Stugotz]

Dan, how does anyone with a straight face. I mean, look, Dominique, you play in the NFL. How does anyone with a straight face watch what happened last night and then still try and say the Stanley cup is not the hardest trophy to win in sports?

[Roy Bellamy]

Well, what happened last night? It was a 6:1 blowout. So you're trying to argue to me that it's the hardest thing to win just because it's really chippy.

[Stugotz]

But like Matthew Tkachuk is saying after the game yesterday, we talked about this in the third period. You know, if you got to take a punch in the face, do whatever you got to do. There's a bigger picture here.

[Roy Bellamy]

I mean, we're saying this after. I hope we get into this at some point, but Frank Ragnow fractured his throat.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's right.

[Roy Bellamy]

So you get out of here with that. I generally hate the people that, like, fall in love with their sports so much that they try to, like, argue that other people's sports are worse. Like, I'm not trying to say, like, football is so much better because I played football. Like, the people who say, this is our game. We gotta protect our game. Like, I'm not that guy. I don't own any of this stuff. However, what I will not stand for is someone trying to tell me that there is something out there that is more dangerous. I'll give you equally, but there's nothing more. He is 300 pounds and someone fractured his throat.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, that USA Today story on how it is that Armstead retires early in football. Dominique allowed us to get away with this yesterday. He hadn't been here in a while, and so he allowed us to get away with saying, that's the toughest trophy to win yesterday. Today he's not having it.

[Roy Bellamy]

Fractured his throat. And he never even played in a Super Bowl. Armstead tore up his knee in his third year and said he never practiced again because he couldn't move his leg without painkillers. He only took painkillers on game day. And he played for what, 13 years? Fractured.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, his throat. Fractured his throat.

[Roy Bellamy]

His throat.

[Zaslow]

Hey, yo.

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't know. Did you know?

[Zaslow]

I wanted to be respectful.

[Dan LeBatard]

Did you know that that could. Did you know that that was a thing at LeBatard show? Did you know you could fracture your throat? Because the most painful injury I had ever heard in sports before was a Mariner's catcher on a foul tip who fractured his testicle. I did not know a testicle could be fractured.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Worst thing to fracture.

[Zaslow]

I think it just ruptures Dan, I don't think you can fracture it like explodes on contact.

[Dan LeBatard]

That I understand that.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, God.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sort of what I thought as well. But no, you can indeed fracture a test.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Put it on the pole, I think.

[Zaslow]

Exploded, worse or fractured?

[Dan LeBatard]

Worse.

[Roy Bellamy]

I. I mean, honestly, this may come as a surprise to you guys, but whether it's exploded or fractured, I'd rather that down there than fracture my throat. I got three kids. I'm done. You can have one of them.

[Zaslow]

Yeah, but what if you had zero.

[Roy Bellamy]

The kids to test them?

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the poll. What's worse, fractured throat or fractured testicle? Because think about that one for a second. I think instantaneously must. You might go testicle and then like you think about eating and breathing and stuff and fractured throat seems terrible.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, I think if you fractured your throat, you'd be afraid that you're gonna die. If you factory a testicle, I feel like, oh, this really hurts. But I'm not gonna die.

[Roy Bellamy]

I mean, do you want to live, though?

[Zaslow]

Do I want to try it?

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't know, Dominique. So you're objecting officially to the idea it's not consensus for you that this is the hardest trophy to win in sports?

[Roy Bellamy]

I mean, I don't care what is the hardest. I don't think it's the hardest. Like, we can go through a bunch of different sports and different things, test you in different ways. However, I thought last night's game was incredibly fun and funny and yeah, those guys. I'm not going to say hockey players aren't tough. They're tough as hell. But what I won't have happen is you guys try to subjugate other athletes and say, you know what?

[Stugotz]

Like, no, no one's saying football players aren't tough though.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, no, no.

[Roy Bellamy]

I. I don't need your validation.

[Stugotz]

Okay, good.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I'll subjugate them.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, he will over there. Take a look at that. You guys might want. It's getting chippy down there.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Marshawn agreed with me. They talked to him after the game. He's like, look, in a blowout game, it's gonna that third period, a lot of that stuff is gonna zaz. So a lot of that stuff is going to happen in a third period of a blow up playoff game.

[Stugotz]

I don't agree for a couple reasons. Number one, we didn't see that last year and we went seven games. All right. And it's the same team. And number two, how many times. And you could talk about this in the regular season too. Are you getting a line fight? Not a line scrum. We had a line fight.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Nurse and Gadget fought for like four minutes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, Chippy down there, they should take a look at that. Imagine a four minute fight in the NBA. Imagine, just imagine just four minutes of fighting in the NBA. What, what we'd be doing in the coverage of that.

[Stugotz]

Wouldn't it be great if the Pacers get blown out tomorrow night and with like three minutes left of the game, all five guys, they all square off every different points of the court and.

[Dominique Foxworth]

They just fight because it happened with Bennett, that altercation. So then what happens in those things is like everyone kind of just gets somebody. It's like, I'm gonna grab somebody. And Nurse ended up with gadgets and Nurse is like, I want no part of this. So he's just for four minutes was just like trying to. I honestly felt bad for Nurse. About three minutes into that I'm like, just stop this already.

[Zaslow]

Was the entire fight time of the Malice in the palace equal to four minutes or no?

[Dan LeBatard]

It echoed for decades because Steven Jackson looked like that for three seconds. Three seconds for three seconds he looked like that. Never mind. Three and four minutes of fighting. It spilled into the stands and the National Guard was called in.

[Stugotz]

Can you imagine if the hockey fights spilled into the stands?

[Dan LeBatard]

That's happened. That's happened a few times. But what we saw last night, I don't want to wander too far away in the noise and the fireworks and the silliness from. Holy shit. The Panthers put it on Edmonton. Edmonton did play poorly, but that was also done to them. McDavid and Draisaitl don't look like that very often. Draisaitl actually looked like that an awful lot last postseason, which I think in retrospect we could say that he was hurt. But that was strangled out of Edmonton last night and it was done a minute into the game. A minute into the game, the announcement is, you're going to be trailing all night. You're going to be chasing this all night. And they can. Edmonton is good enough offensively, but when their power play does nothing, doesn't even produce reasonable chances and then it turns into an all out fight and the Panthers are the only ones scoring. You get the best game the Panthers can play. They, they can't play better than that. Doing that to this team, both offensively and defensively in that game. There is no better game that the Panthers have played the last three seasons than that one.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, they have two games left to win, but honestly it's looking like either Sam Bennett or Brad Marchant, it's going to.

[Stugotz]

Let's. Let's call it on the Con Smite talk again. Two more games. Come on. Two more games.

[Chris Cody]

You got to look at how Sam Bennett is. He's leading the league right now.

[Stugotz]

I get it. But two more games.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know what? Thank you, Zaz. Because, Roy, I saw this happen this morning, and it made me sad. Look, Dominique knows what I'm talking about.

[Stugotz]

What's going on there?

[Dan LeBatard]

Chuckles Dominique. Dominic. Oh, Dominique comes in here today, and he sees Roy and he says to Roy, heartfelt and joyous, congratulations.

[Roy Bellamy]

It's not over. He got mad at me. He looked me in the eyes, said, it's not over.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right.

[Stugotz]

So I'm surprised that now he's trying to count Con Smythe votes.

[Roy Bellamy]

Nah, he. He's just. He's a media member. He's preparing. He has to think about all this stuff heading up to making these decisions.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He's mad. Dorky has a vote and he doesn't.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, I am.

[Stugotz]

Is that. Is that true?

[Chris Cody]

Well, it's my first year in the Professional Hockey Riders association, and I got one vote this year, and that's what? Masterton.

[Stugotz]

Which one is that?

[Chris Cody]

That's the. That's the.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Dominique.

[Chris Cody]

That's dedication.

[Stugotz]

That sounds like a big one.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't understand. All of us were like, which truck? You were very proud of that vote. And all of us are like, that's a nice vote. What. What vote is that?

[Chris Cody]

It's dedication to hockey.

[Dominique Foxworth]

So how do you assess who's the most dedicated?

[Chris Cody]

Well, it's not really. It's not really a person who comes back from injury, you know, like somebody who's retiring. Like a Pat.

[Stugotz]

Marie, who'd you vote for?

[Dominique Foxworth]

I love Roy. Like, seeing who gets there early. Lundell here early.

[Dan LeBatard]

Good. Like, keeping notes.

[Chris Cody]

It was. I didn't vote for him.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't like how he's disrespecting your vote back there.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I'm more disrespecting the award, like, the dedication.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, take a look at that.

[Dominique Foxworth]

They should take a look at that.

[Chris Cody]

Why should they take a look at it?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Because there were.

[Dan LeBatard]

There was none.

[Dominique Foxworth]

We broke them mentally, late in that game. As much as I'm saying, a lot of that was expected, a lot of it wasn't. It was ridiculous. And my daughter was there. I was sitting next to my daughter.

[Chris Cody]

Because her daughter was there. Oh, my gosh. We shouldn't have a library because her daughter's there.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I was shielding her eyes from that Daughter.

[Dan LeBatard]

My daughter was there.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It made me like she's like, daddy, why are they doing that? I'm like, because we've broken them mentally. That's why we're doing that. Graceland.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right. Are you as uncomfortable as I am with him saying we've broken them mentally?

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, we, huh? Oh, I was disgusted. I mean, to be clear, what really hurt me about me congratulating Roy. And Roy's response was, I was congratulating Roy on the successful BET Awards last night. And Roy was like, we're not done yet. It is done. Kendrick got all the awards. Roy, congratulations to you and me. We did it.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, we did do it.

[Dan LeBatard]

We did it.

[Roy Bellamy]

We did do it.

[Chris Cody]

The second America did it.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think Zaslo could say we.

[Stugotz]

I feel like I could say we.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's the only one who can.

[Roy Bellamy]

About the BET Awards.

[Zaslow]

Actually, Chris can say we.

[Roy Bellamy]

That's right, Chris.

[Zaslow]

I don't know yet. Have you seen that? You haven't seen. Seen the reports?

[Chris Cody]

He's a season ticket holder, so maybe he can gingers that.

[Roy Bellamy]

That. They did say that he could say we.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I got.

[Roy Bellamy]

I'm gonna go ahead and stand up and say, nah.

[Dominique Foxworth]

What?

[Roy Bellamy]

Nah. Revoked it. I don't know who started this science.

[Zaslow]

How about that?

[Roy Bellamy]

I don't know who started it. Revoked. I also need to have a conversation because I've been skipping a lot of meetings. I haven't been participating in votes.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I've been there.

[Roy Bellamy]

We let Jimmy Swims in or Timmy. Teddy swims. The swims.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Teddy swims.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, we let him in.

[Zaslow]

You let a couple of guys in.

[Roy Bellamy]

He was getting nominated for stuff. I thought we learned our lesson with Justin Timberlake. What are we doing? It takes more than a banger to get let in. I would like to register my disappointment. I don't know about Teddy Swims getting nominated. I don't know much about Teddy Swims. I got to be honest, because I called him Jimmy, but also, I don't know about it.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's a fine calling him Jimmy Zaslow. The reason he gets credit and can say we is because he ended a family vacation early because his team needed him.

[Stugotz]

By a show of hands, anyone else end their vacation early for the Panthers? Anyone else on their vacation because our team needed them? Anyone? Bueller.

[Dan LeBatard]

Zaslo can say we.

[Stugotz]

Bueller reference.

[Dan LeBatard]

I have. I have heard in my ear set, by the way, I've been told that gazpacho is a cold soup only in summer and only in Spain. So it's a regional soup.

[Zaslow]

You ever been to Spain in the.

[Dan LeBatard]

Summer, Dan, where it's Allowed. I have been. Tony Swampy. Yes.

[Roy Bellamy]

It's Europe.

[Zaslow]

Europe in summer.

[Dan LeBatard]

What the.

[Roy Bellamy]

Are we doing that?

[Dan LeBatard]

That's right. That is correct, Tony. Yes. Yes. Sun is.

[Zaslow]

No, it's the sun.

[Dan LeBatard]

It is very hot.

[Zaslow]

Yes, Sun. It's the sun.

[Dan LeBatard]

Venice smells bad. It's so hot. Yes. 20%, huh, Chris? 20% over. Norm for you last night on Fight.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Four minutes, maybe 30%.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, wow.

[Stugotz]

There's never fights in the playoffs. They had a line fight last night and Chris is trying to tell me.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Chippy, outside of that line fight, you do see in a blowout.

[Stugotz]

It's kind of a big thing though.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Like extra like cross checks like this does happen.

[Dan LeBatard]

This what?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Like, I think a lot of people like Dominique swooping in for hockey playoffs last night was probably like, holy. We're really. It was like outside of that line fight. Which is ridiculous.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yes. Because I'm parachuting in. What I do know about hockey is that the first hockey games were played with frozen cow poop and their fights.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Roy Bellamy]

So that's the only. Because it's the one thing I guess, also being on. No, there are lots of other sports on ice. It's the only sport other than combat sports where combat is acceptable. So, yes, I'm watching hike last night and for me you're like, oh my gosh. I'm like, oh, yeah, they out there. Hockey.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, but this, this coverage by Chris is bad in that Kane had more penalty minutes in that game than he had in his previous 17 playoff games combined.

[Roy Bellamy]

I know Kane.

[Dominique Foxworth]

What am I saying?

[Dan LeBatard]

He was a dirty player last night. That's not normal. That kind of fight is not normal. You do not risk the ramifications. Look, we just got done with Brindamore telling his team the entire series, do not retaliate on the Panthers. It's stupid. It's how they beat you. Do not get emotional with them. It does not work. So Brinder Moore has lost to them consecutively and he was pleading with his team, do not react. Do not retaliate. The Panthers do this. It's a style. It's a champion style. They don't care if you do not like them. They're annoying. They bother other teams. They bother other fan bases. They're dirty. They play on the line. They've, they're, they've got players who are unlikable. League wide reputations as unlikable.

[Stugotz]

Who wouldn't like them.

[Dan LeBatard]

And Marchand is sitting there while they're unraveling last night, pointing to his head and their bench, saying, there it is again. We're in there again. We beat you last year and we're in there again.

[Stugotz]

Nico Mikola pointed and laughed at Corey Perry Pointed and laughed. What a loser.

[Chris Cody]

Jonah Gadjevich over here skating with his tongue out like Ah, fees.

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[Dan LeBatard]

Don LeBatard, Lightning Panthers. What do you think?

[Roy Bellamy]

Stugats.

[Stugotz]

Look at this face while I tell this to you, okay? Because I don't want there to be any kind of confusion. You look me right in the eye. Panthers could take that ass, man.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

Roy.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

What is your assessment? You're saying that Edmonton can't play that poorly? I'm saying that that's the best that the Panthers can play. You're also joyless and miserable. When he says to you, congratulations, and your response is, it's not over yet.

[Chris Cody]

It's not. They got two wins left.

[Roy Bellamy]

You can't. You can't fool me. These guys, they don't know you like I know you. You have taken all your joy and you put it on your head today. You're like, nah, I can't be happy, but I'm Happy. And so subconsciously, when you walk to your closet today in your normal all black happy hat, you got the happiest hat. It's like that you could find. So I'm happy for you, Roy. I didn't. I'm sorry to put you out there, but I know that you're happy even though that you tried to act like you're too tough.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I've got Roy's. All his hats, like, in order of like, from like the sad hat to the brightest. And he just like, oh, it's a. Oh, we're going over here today.

[Roy Bellamy]

The only time you were happier was when that, what was it, 18 seconds goal was made and the Panthers were tied and going into overtime. That was the happiest you've been. That's the only time you were happy.

[Dominique Foxworth]

There's the smirk again.

[Chris Cody]

I was in pain. It was a grimace.

[Roy Bellamy]

Nope, not a grimace.

[Dan LeBatard]

This again. Let's focus on Rose, please, instead of Roy because the Panthers very recently, and this is why this show's annoying, this is why this time of year, the last couple of years, the fan base aggressively turns on us, but also watches more hockey than they used to watch and is a member of a very small group of people now rooting for the Panthers because I do not believe that that is happening throughout the country now. Every team says that every time. Right. It's us against the world. Can you guys tell me a region, a country, a place? It's maybe, maybe, maybe Barkovsk, maybe Finland. He's so big that there is a place that has embraced the Panthers.

[Stugotz]

I think Calgary's root for the Panthers.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just from hate. Well, that's hate. Watching Edmonton.

[Stugotz]

They love Tkachuk and they hate Edmonton, but that's hate.

[Dan LeBatard]

But that's okay. That's rooting for the Panthers, but it's rooting for someone else to suffer. It's not even the same thing. I'm asking you, where are the people that Chuck is not. They're not going to be allowed to be lovable underdogs. They're not even going to be allowed to be underdogs. Where are the people rooting for them?

[Dominique Foxworth]

I don't know if people are rooting for them, but I do think they've gone above this, like small market. Like, I think they've gotten the respect like hockey. You listen to other hockey podcasts and it's not get these Panthers out of my life. It's more in awe of holy. This team is just. Their goal is great. Their defense, they can play any style it's more just. You hear this respect for this team of like, I can't believe this team has built this crazy, successful unit, which is hateable. Right? But you don't. I. I think we've gotten there yet.

[Roy Bellamy]

No, I'm saying that there is. There was. I understand that there was. A segment of hockey culture is like, this Florida team. We hate them. They're from Florida. This isn't hockey. But now it's like they're beating our golden boy, the one that's supposed to give us the right to say that we watch the greatest hockey players since Gretzky. You can't say it until he wins one. He's standing in the way. And every story, every hero's journey story that we've ever watched or read has been about one singular special person overcoming some evil demons around them. And you guys are the evil demons. I hate to tell you this. You're the zombies in the zombie movie. You are not Indiana Jones. It's not who. You're not Han Solo. I don't know what else. I mean, I can't do anything modern. I'm old. What do you want me to do?

[Dan LeBatard]

Those are some old references. This. This show has now gotten annoying. And here's Zaslow's face. This is pan fandom right here. And it's bloated and it's arrogant, and it's telling you, after that game, it was thin, handsome with a sausage finger, a bratwurst in his left hand. He's pointing at you, and he's saying, that's how you play hockey. That's. Look, we teach it down here in the Everglades. Edmonton. That's how you play hockey. It takes seven months to get to the arena, and that's after you've parked in the parking lot. The walk is through the Everglades. It requires an airboat. That's where the Stanley cup resides. You cannot take it from them because that's how you play hockey.

[Roy Bellamy]

I need that picture back, man. We can't just let that sit up.

[Stugotz]

You want to wallet size?

[Roy Bellamy]

That wallet size. I want a poster size of Humpty Dumpty's grandpa. I would love to have that photo.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, look at that.

[Roy Bellamy]

How is the top bigger than the bottom?

[Dan LeBatard]

It is great.

[Roy Bellamy]

Why is your chin up there?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Roy Bellamy]

Confused.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Roy Bellamy]

Beluga esque.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. Yes, you.

[Roy Bellamy]

Whale face.

[Dan LeBatard]

It is. You could put a narwhal horn on his forehead, and you wouldn't create the most impressive animal Dominique has ever been in awe of. But.

[Stugotz]

But we all learned one thing Though, last night. That's how you play hockey.

[Chris Cody]

That's how you play hockey.

[Roy Bellamy]

You do got a hockey fight. Ass head like that. Look like that thing could take a bite.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Beluga esque is a great one.

[Stugotz]

The Panthers went up 51 last night after Aaron Ekblad scored. I get up off the couch in the Z Mansion family room. I'm cheering my 13 year old looks. He goes, sound. They're up five one.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, I mean, your head does look like five to one.

[Dan LeBatard]

I love it.

[Dominique Foxworth]

The biggest goal last night was Reinhardt, right? Like we got. We get. We're up to nothing. They get a goal early in that second period and you're like, oh, we're back. Our. Our feel good is gone. And then Reinhardt responds immediately with a goal.

[Stugotz]

Obviously huge. But did Sam Bennett have the greatest shift in the history of Panther hockey?

[Chris Cody]

He absolutely did.

[Stugotz]

Two hits, two monster hits. And on the same shift. How about this? It's about to be a two on none breakaway, but we're so confident in Sam Bennett that E2 Loy Starinan passes the puck to Ben and says, effort. You don't need me. And Bennett scores on the breakaway.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's Lucy in a nutshell right there. Unselfish.

[Chris Cody]

Good play at the blue line too. He was the one that broke up that pass, leading to the two on.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, what size is your hat?

[Stugotz]

I mean, I get fitted hats. It's a flex cap.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's a cop, but he's right.

[Roy Bellamy]

Stretchy.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Dominique Foxworth]

A little bit.

[Roy Bellamy]

You got a lululemon hat.

[Zaslow]

A little bit flex cap.

[Roy Bellamy]

A little bit.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dominique, I would like for you to stay generally with wherever your imagination and your curiosities take you. On the Discovery that Zaslow's head and surface area on his forehead is larger than we imagined because he's been hiding it for many years under a baseball. Now that it's been unveiled, to point a finger at you and say, that's how you play hockey. I love that. As the face of South Florida sports telling Canada, this is what happens to your golden boy when you get chippy and make Chris rain down from the arena. They should take a look at that 30%.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, man. Can we get that picture up again? Man, I can't get enough of that picture. That picture is yelling at me. If you don't like it, you could leave.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. Yes.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Right.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's America.

[Roy Bellamy]

Say Merica.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Roy Bellamy]

And you said, where my imagination takes me. I want to go where Zaz's imagination takes me. I feel like that imagination can Take me around the world four times.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm with you on this. Now that I look at this, that's how you play hockey. And it's also exactly how you react by sending 2,000 National Guardsmen to California in order to protest immigration stuff.

[Roy Bellamy]

That picture says, love it or leave it, asshole.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, yes. This country should be whiter.

[Roy Bellamy]

That picture says, you getting these guns out of my cold dead hands.

[Dan LeBatard]

That wins. That's going to be a champion right there. It might cost us democracy two more games. But that is something that if I were bringing it through central casting and telling people what's American arrogance right now, that's what it looks like.

[Roy Bellamy]

I would definitely cast him as the one. Yell at some. Something from the crowd here at a show and someone yells something offensive from the back. That guy.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is a long way from yesterday when Rose was the reaction that we were loving, which is Rose's face horrified from any angle and every angle because she was so scared. 17 seconds from winning game two. That is. I mean, we can all agree, right? This is sheer terror.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I was right there with it.

[Dan LeBatard]

And. And it wasn't but a few periods ago that that's what it all felt like. That's a shock.

[Chris Cody]

Tell a novella face right there.

[Dan LeBatard]

That is something that sports does that nothing else does. You care so much that you go and say from there, I'm terrified. And from Chris Cody's perch, they should take a look at that. That violence down there, that's making tough men bleed. That's normal playoff hockey.

[Zaslow]

I've got a dirty secret to say. I know Rose, okay? I know Rose very well. Yes, she's a big Panthers fan, but you know what she loves even more than the Panthers?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Going home.

[Zaslow]

Going home early. So what she saw there was not only, oh, no, the Panthers, they tied it up against the Oilers. Tied up against the Panthers. Oh, no. I've got 20 minutes of an intermission. I've got another 20 minutes of overtime. And then when that overtime stopped, I got another 20 minutes and then another 20 minutes and then they got a score. Ended up being another two hours for.

[Dan LeBatard]

Poor Riz who just wants to go.

[Zaslow]

Home because she only asked 11 times. When is this over?

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay?

[Zaslow]

And that was on Saturday during the MMA hangout. And I told her, babe, you know exactly what it is. We got one o' clock in the morning.

[Roy Bellamy]

That's it.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're still using babe, huh?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Zaslow]

That kind of thing.

[Dan LeBatard]

I am concerned. And that you are accusing Rose of wanting game and not caring about the results and just wanting games. To be over so that she can stop working. And Stugatz's last engagement on hockey was him not wanting it to go double overtime because he wanted to go to sleep. And I'm thinking, this is not how Zaslo is experiencing any of this. I know it's not how Roy's experiencing it, but Zazlow, do you end up having trouble getting to sleep last night? Because I would imagine after game one.

[Stugotz]

You would have one was bad.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, but I would imagine after game one, you would not sleep very well. And then after game two, you wouldn't sleep very well either because. Because you're wired.

[Stugotz]

Well, I, I didn't go to sleep right away after game two, you know, it's Friday night, so you get loose. You know my style. Come on. Game one, I had a hard time falling asleep. Game two, let's keep the party rolling, guys.

[Dan LeBatard]

Then that one last night, you get to relax last night.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Last night's one of those ones. You just go home, digest all the post game interviews.

[Stugotz]

Top night of my life.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Go ahead, Paul. Maurice, tell me how you liked four minutes in our second period. No matter how well we play. He's like, I really like three minutes in our second period.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, man.

[Dan LeBatard]

I want to show Dominique, please, our good AI work on making Zaslow a narwhal, the most impressive of all of the creatures. Dominique has spoken very highly of the narwhal being ahead of the 3D of the octopus. Yes. Our crack staff got to work immediately. I asked them to make a narwhal and they did some aluminum foil party hat in the center of Zaslow's forehead.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I'm watching Muppets 3D right now.

[Dan LeBatard]

Were the rest of you, though, taken aback, as I was by the surface area that Dominique noticed at the time that he noticed it on, on the Zaslow forehead.

[Roy Bellamy]

I believe that if you concentrate hard enough, you could tell us who's going to win this series. Just like I, I think Professor X, I think he got it. I think Cerebro over there, my cerebro. Just put both hands like this and go. Touch the temples and squeeze. I think you could tell us who's gonna win.

[Dan LeBatard]

So, Chris Cody, you think it's normal, normal for Matthew Tkachuk to be saying, we talked about it in the third. If you have to tell, take a punch, take a punch. If you have to take a cross check, take a cross check, spear, slash in the face, whatever the case is, you've got to take it.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yes. Like I, I. If you listen to their postgate Like, a lot of the players were saying what I'm saying right now, that I.

[Roy Bellamy]

Think it got chippy.

[Dominique Foxworth]

They needed to realize that this is a long series. Let's not do anything that's going to get us suspended. You have to defend your teammates. That's what that was.

[Roy Bellamy]

So I think that in that world, maybe that's normal.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's normalized violence. Yes.

[Roy Bellamy]

Right. But I. I think that what you're saying to us. Us is as if we are in that world. We all recognize we're not in that world. And you are telling us, like, no, it's normal.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And it went beyond. Like. I'm not saying last night wasn't more than I would have expected, but I just think a lot of what we saw last night is just when a team is broken down two, one, they need to, oh, if we're going to come back in this series, we got to show them that we're in this, too. So they're just going to get aggressive. And we broke them mentally.

[Stugotz]

That's not what it felt like to me last night. Like, it didn't feel like the Oilers are saying, okay, we're going to show you we're still here. Like, to me that it felt like a team was melting down.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's true.

[Dan LeBatard]

It did. All right.

[Dominique Foxworth]

There were a few times where I'm like, we have broken them.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm not comfortable with how often you're saying that we broke them mentally.

[Stugotz]

We know. Only one person gets to say that in here.

[Dan LeBatard]

There were 110 penalty minutes between the two teams in the final nine and a half minutes of the game. That's not normal. Obviously, the more important thing I would say to you is it's still the 13th playoff game in which McDavid and Draisaitl. Neither one of them scores a point. And when that happens to the oilers, they are 2 and 11. They are not a championship team. They are a bad team. If those two guys have the game they had last night, they lose 11 out of 13 times. Because that team relies on Roy's analysis, simplistic though it was before the series is, yes, they have the two best players and the Panthers have the best team. The Panthers have four lines. The Panthers can get nothing from their first line in the first two games, and it doesn't even matter. It's. It's an unusually deep team, and it flogs you, and you're supposed to get tired in the third. But through the first two games of this series, Edmonton was in a position that made it feel to all of Edmonton that there was no reason to fear anything here. And now the fear is here. It must be here. If you are Edmonton, you've seen that this can be done to your. To your wonder kid.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, they definitely targeted Conor McDavid. They hit him five times, especially Aaron Akbad. So they really put it to him.

[Stugotz]

Love that.

[Dominique Foxworth]

They listened to me. Remember I was saying, like, get in his way when he's going down.

[Dan LeBatard]

Cut him off. It wasn't. It's cut him off.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Someone hit him.

[Dan LeBatard]

Get your lines right.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's what it was.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hit him. Stop him. Take a look at that.

[Dominique Foxworth]

They listened.

[Stugotz]

Love that fear field in my plumes.

[Roy Bellamy]

Wonder.

[Dominique Foxworth]

They're gonna be great on Thursday for sure.

[Zaslow]

Kind.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Roy Bellamy]

Okay. Just check it.

[Dominique Foxworth]

The Oilers will be great on Thursday. Thursday will be scary. And if we win, obviously we're in a good spot. But I. This is not over. Like, Thursday is going to be Connor McDavid at his scariest.

[Dan LeBatard]

Of course it's not over. We've got that. We know.

[Dominique Foxworth]

First I say we. Now I'm showing perspective. What do you like? What do you want me to do here?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. The silence was everywhere. Silence.