Local Hour: The Dead Dog In Zaslow's Kitchen

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show w/ Stugotz

Local Hour: "The Dead Dog In Zaslow's Kitchen"

Date: September 23, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Greg Cody, Billy Gil, others

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Overview

This episode of the "Local Hour" opens with the usual in-studio banter and sponsor reads before launching into a signature swirl of South Florida sports, college football rankings, NFL storylines, and some trademark, meandering hijinks about pet mortality and shirt fabrics. The running argument focuses on whether the University of Miami (UM) is "back," if FSU or Miami has the better resume, and how to view early-season successes in both college and NFL. The hosts also touch on the evolution of football, especially around ball security and offensive styles, and sprinkle in local color through tales of pets, shirts, and Miami minutiae.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Greg Cody’s “New Old” Shirt, Material Debate, and Sweating in Miami

• The show kicks off with lighthearted ribbing about Greg Cody’s shirt, which is described as terry cloth/bath towel material:
  • Greg Cody: “It feels like a bath towel. It seems like something that would be very sweaty in South Florida given our general humidity.” (01:45)
  • Discussion veers into Dan joking about how he “gave up sweating” and prefers long sleeves to hide bruises.
  • Billy Gil: “That’s how little he’s active, that he thinks he doesn’t sweat. Did you give it up?” (03:05)
  • The conversation segues into pet stories as Dan mentions his arms improving after a “talk” with them.

2. Dead Pets & "The Dead Dog in Zaslow’s Kitchen"

• A broad, darkly hilarious contest emerges over whose pets have died and how the remains were handled:
  • Dan: “The cats I bury in the backyard. The dogs, we just let the vet take care of that.” (04:32)
  • Billy Gil: “So I got the paw print, you know, in the clay.” (04:49)
  • [Memorable Moment] Billy gets teased about whether he keeps “a dead dog in your kitchen” (05:01–05:03), when in fact it’s just a paw print mold.
  • The group riffs on cultural rituals around pet death and the logistics (dogs too big to bury, cats get the backyard treatment).

3. Miami vs FSU: Who's Actually Played “Somebody”?

• The real meat of the show is a multi-segment, often circular argument over college football resumes, led by Greg Cody and Dan:
  • Greg asserts FSU “hasn’t played anybody,” dismissing Alabama’s perceived strength and downplaying Miami’s wins over Notre Dame, Florida, and USF.
  • Dan: “After the FSU-Alabama game, we’re all burying Alabama...Now all of a sudden, we're saying they’re not that bad. No.” (06:42)
  • They dissect Miami's lack of dominant offense despite tough opponents, while Billy and Dan maintain the Gators, USF, and Notre Dame are still quality wins.
  • Greg Cody: “I think it’s fair to say that Miami hasn’t played anybody either...Notre Dame’s shown you nothing, Florida’s shown you nothing...” (07:23)
  • Billy Gil (sarcastic): “So FSU winning against...Alabama doesn’t impress you, but if they beat Virginia this week, that will really show you something.” (07:35)

Notable Quotes

• Greg Cody: “You can sit here and make a good argument that Miami’s opponents haven’t shown you much this season.” (09:21)
• Dan: “Most people...were very impressed with the way Miami beat Florida. I was. The poll voters were.” (09:47)
• Billy: “They haven’t played a single road game yet, and they don’t even leave the state until November. Yes, that’s important to point out. So is the U back or not?” (12:42)

Discussion Flows:

• Debating whether resume-building matters when most top teams haven’t played anyone with a strong pedigree
• The importance (or not) of style points vs just accumulating wins

4. Broader College Football Landscape — “Who’s Played Who?”

• Comparison of resumes continues, expanding to other programs:
  • Greg and Billy fire at Texas, Penn State, LSU, Georgia, Oregon — ultimately agreeing every “contender” is only as good as their most recent poll boost.
  • Dan: “Ohio State is number one, period. There’s really no argument.” (24:01)
  • The futility of early-season ranking debates is openly acknowledged.
  • Group notes how groupthink and preseason rankings color every week’s poll.

5. NFL Deep Dive: Ball Security, Derrick Henry, and Evolving Quarterback Standards

The Value and Detriment of Turnovers

• Shift to NFL, starting with Derrick Henry’s recent fumbles:
  • Dan poses: “How many turnovers does a Derrick Henry have to have that it dilutes his excellence?” (27:16)
  • Greg & Billy note that “RB1s” get benched for three lost fumbles—except for Henry, who gets leeway but might suffer if the trend continues.
  • Dan: “The timing of his fumble loss last night was the turning point.” (28:20)

The Rise of “Safe” QBs:

• They riff on Aaron Rodgers’ claim that he "invented" the low-turnover quarterback, drawing contrasts to past eras where top QBs threw 5 picks routinely (citing Dan Fouts).
• The group humorously addresses the premium on “not making plays for the other team”—creating a game that prizes caution.

6. Petty Sniping, Dolphins’ O-line, Lions’ O-line and NFL “Who’s Good?” Debate

• Local hour flavor: weighing Dolphins’ and Hurricanes’ offensive lines
• Billy relays Miami radio personalities lauding UM’s O-line
• Discussion of the Detroit Lions’ ascendance, dominating last night’s game due to their O-line, and general exasperation at how NFL teams like Detroit fix their O-line so easily compared to Miami.
• Greg: “The Detroit Lions have one of the two best offensive lines in the league and have had it for three years. They’ve made Man Campbell look like a genius, even though he’s not a genius.” (34:06)

Who’s Actually "Good" In the NFL?

• Billy and Dan try to count "good" NFL teams. Candidates include Rams, 49ers, Bucs, Packers, Lions, Eagles, Chargers, Chiefs, Ravens, Bills (interminable debate).
• Greg: “If I asked you guys for a number of good teams in the NFL... is it seven? Is it six?” (36:35)
• Billy: “I got 12 good teams.” (40:07)
• Punchline: They can't agree on criteria for “good.”

7. Miscellaneous Banter: Dog Years, Cat Years, and Football Rule Changes

• Billy rants against the concept of “dog years,” noting no one applies the principle to cats or other pets. (45:06–45:43)
• Zaslow points out the NFL’s likely move to ban the “punch out” fumble, saying, “You can’t just throw haymakers during the game at players.” (38:08)

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Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• Billy Gil [on dead pets]: “You have a dead dog in your kitchen?” (05:01)
• Dan [on Miami's win over Florida]: “That’s a game they lose last year, if Cam Ward has that kind of game last year. They don’t beat anybody this year, despite their quarterback having a terrible game. Really, really bad. They ran the ball. They played defense.” (11:49)
• Greg Cody [pet contest]: “I've had three die. And cats. The cats I bury in the backyard. The dogs, we just let the vet take care of that.” (04:32)
• Dan Le Batard [on college football resumes]: “Let’s just agree on that, because it is... They haven’t played on the road yet. That in and of itself is a big [test].” (13:13)
• Billy [on UCF/O-line]: “The Big Dog was saying that the UM offensive line could be better than the Dolphins right now.” (30:37)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:26–03:12 – Shirt material debate, sweating, Dan controlling his own body
• 04:09–05:12 – Dead pet handling contest (“dead dog in your kitchen” joke)
• 06:16–16:33 – Miami, FSU, and the college football “haven’t played anybody” debate
• 20:01–24:16 – Dismantling the logic of college football rankings/poll voting
• 27:16–29:44 – NFL running back fumbles: Derrick Henry & the premium on ball security
• 34:06–36:33 – Detroit Lions’ line, NFL “who’s actually good” spiral
• 38:08–45:44 – Football rules on “punch out” fumbles, debate on dog years vs cat years

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Tone and Style

The tone is quintessentially “Local Hour”: irreverent, rapid-fire, self-effacing, and Miami-centric. The hosts seamlessly mix sports analytics with farcical asides (shirts, pets, dog years), and the debates swing between faux-serious and all-out jest. The language is colloquial, with frequent cross talk and occasional feigned exasperation—delivering both insight and entertainment for Miami sports die-hards and casual fans alike.

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Useful For...

• Fans wanting a breakdown of early college football narratives around UM and FSU
• Listeners curious about NFL storylines (turnover trends, offensive line dominance)
• Anyone looking for the show’s unique blend of serious sports debate and absurd local comedy

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Summary by [your assistant], preserving the hosts’ original energy and banter.

Transcript

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[Greg Cody]

Greg Cody is getting an unusual number of compliments on what is being called a new shirt, but looks to me like an old shirt that just doesn't get worn very often. Zasla, what would you say is the material of that shirt?

[Billy Gil]

It's really soft looking. I feel like he looks right out of Boogie Nights.

[Greg Cody]

If I'm being honest, it does seem like a shirt out of the 70s and I think it's terry cloth. The material, it feels like a bath towel. It's seems like something that would be very sweaty in South Florida given our general humidity. It seems like something. Chris, what do you think that material is? Is it terry cloth?

[Billy Gil]

You know me, I'm great with materials. I'd go yeah, terry cloth. You got that terry cloth.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know what it is.

[Billy Gil]

Do you know what terry cloth is? Of course I know what terry cloth is. Let me see. Because I used to work at Juicy Couture and they seem similar but One is terry cloth and one is velour, and they're very different. Get in there, Billy. Give it a feel.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can it be felt?

[Billy Gil]

Nah, there's no way. Yeah, well, he's gonna try in a second.

[Greg Cody]

Are you saying can it be touched or is the material felt?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's just a joke. I've been using that joke my whole life.

[Greg Cody]

Can it be felt? Well, it does look like the COVID of a billiards table.

[Billy Gil]

It's closer to burlap.

[Dan Le Batard]

Burlap.

[Greg Cody]

Does it seem to you that would be rough, Billy. Does it seem to you something like South Florida, humid? It seems like something that will be damp by the end of the show. No.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm the kind of guy who doesn't sweat.

[Billy Gil]

That's not.

[Dan Le Batard]

To be honest, I mean, I just.

[Billy Gil]

Don'T sweat or fart. Name the things that will make you sweat.

[Greg Cody]

Baby.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know. I'm not. I don't sweat.

[Greg Cody]

That's not possible, Greg.

[Billy Gil]

That's how little he's active, that he thinks he doesn't sweat. Did you give it up?

[Dan Le Batard]

I did give up sweating.

[Billy Gil]

That's nice. Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just like I gave up cigars. Right.

[Billy Gil]

I like how you have so much control over your body and then all of us who don't have the same control over ours make fun of of you for being master of your own body.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. No, it is a matter of control. Like, for a while there, I was wearing nothing but long sleeve shirts because I didn't like some of the bruise marks.

[Greg Cody]

Bad arm days.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, bad arm life. But I had a talk with my arms. I said, dudes, you're very important to me. Get together. Get your act together. And it worked. Like, I don't know whether it's psychosomatic or what, but my arms began to rally around me.

[Billy Gil]

Could it be that your dog just stopped jumping on you and scratching your arms?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, he still does that. He still does that. But he has gotten better, though.

[Billy Gil]

I think that should be a factor here.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's gotten much better. Well, he's three now, you know, that's. He's no longer a puppy.

[Billy Gil]

21 in human years or dog years, I guess. That's not the way it works, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

Coming into what?

[Billy Gil]

I mean, it's not just take the dog's years and multiply. I hate dog years. It's not the way it works. I'm sorry. Are you a vet? No, Santa Fe UF has a veterinary. Are you a vet? I have multiple dogs. I have multiple dogs, too. Really? You don't just Multi dog by two. I have two also. How many dogs you had die? This a contest of how many dogs have died? Yeah, I had one die.

[Dan Le Batard]

I've had three die. And cats. The cats I bury in the backyard. The dogs, we just let the vet take care of that.

[Billy Gil]

Really?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Billy Gil]

Do you get like the rock with their name on it and the ashes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Or you just kind of forget them as soon as. Somewhere in my backyard.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

No idea. Where is that?

[Billy Gil]

So I got the paw print, you know, in the clay.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Billy Gil]

What'd you do with it? Why are you laughing at that? What'd you do with it? It's in my kitchen. You have a dead dog in your kitchen? No, I get the paw print in like the mold. You have dog ashes in your kitchen? Your counter. Who said ashes?

[Greg Cody]

Pudding with an apostrophe. It's not the name of the dog.

[Billy Gil]

Pudding.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Puddin. Apostrophe. What a cat name, huh? Puddin. But that was Earlene's cat before.

[Greg Cody]

Why. Why do the. Why do the cats get a ritual, but the dog just gets shipped off to the vet and the incinerator?

[Dan Le Batard]

I guess. Size. You know, if I'm burying a 60 pound dog in the backyard, that's like an excavation.

[Greg Cody]

How much does Charlie weigh?

[Dan Le Batard]

95.

[Billy Gil]

A big dog. Really? He's a big dog. 95.

[Greg Cody]

When did Charlie get that big?

[Dan Le Batard]

He grew.

[Billy Gil]

I know he's. I don't know if he weighs that much.

[Dan Le Batard]

He does, trust me.

[Billy Gil]

Now he's got to be called Char.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Billy Gil]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.

[Greg Cody]

Greg Cody of the Miami Herald is coming here with a new old shirt, the material of bath towels, and he is claiming that FSU has not played anyone even though FSU has swamped Alabama. And it ignores that Miami hasn't played anyone either.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, Miami played Notre Dame, right?

[Greg Cody]

One and two. Notre Dame. And Miami did less against Notre Dame offensively than even Purdue did.

[Dan Le Batard]

They played an 18th ranked US USF. 18th ranked at the time. And then they had a nice win over Florida. You can say Florida is not that good, but it's still a traditional rival that had a chance.

[Greg Cody]

But why has FSU played nobody but Miami has?

[Dan Le Batard]

Because FSU opened against Alabama, which everybody thought would be a tough opener. After that game, let's not retrofit, okay? After the FSU Alabama game, we're all burying Alabama. We're firing the coach, we're saying, bring back Saban. Alabama's done. The era has officially ended. And now all of a sudden we're saying they're not that bad. No. When they played Alabama, Alabama was pretty bad. Then they played two cupcakes in a row, actually, at Virginia. In their next game, I think has a chance to be a test for fsu. They're only favored by a touchdown. If they beat Virginia handily, I'll be a little bit impressed.

[Greg Cody]

I think it's fair to say that Miami hasn't played anybody either. I think that's fair to say because Notre Dame's shown you nothing, Florida's shown you nothing. And you're supposed to beat South Florida. They're the fifth best team in the state.

[Billy Gil]

So FSU winning against the team that they, the impressive win that they had when they beat Alabama doesn't impress you, but if they beat Virginia this week, that will really show you something.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, in a way. In a way, yeah, sure. Because, you know, now everybody's got film when you play an opening game, it's sort of a crapshoot.

[Greg Cody]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know.

[Billy Gil]

Now wouldn't that make it harder to.

[Dan Le Batard]

Win in a season opener?

[Billy Gil]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not necessarily.

[Greg Cody]

I think it is fair to say that what you have seen from Miami so far this year has come against opponents that haven't shown you much of anything against anybody. Because South Florida's big win was against the other team that's not impressive, which is Florida.

[Billy Gil]

South Florida kicked the shit out of Boise. That's not nothing.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, fair enough. Fair enough.

[Dan Le Batard]

And Florida's got a great defense. And Notre Dame at the time, you know, championship game last year, I mean, Notre Dame coming in off a big, big season. Every Notre Dame was favored.

[Billy Gil]

Greg.

[Dan Le Batard]

At Miami. Greg.

[Greg Cody]

Miami's offense against Notre Dame made it seem like Notre Dame had a good defense. And Notre Dame does not have a good defense.

[Billy Gil]

A And M scored 41 on them.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

And Purdue scored. Purdue scored on them, too. Notre Dame's defense has shown you nothing so far this season. And Miami was less impressive against Notre Dame. Miami's offense hasn't shown you much this year. Like they, they were good against South Florida. They didn't show you much against Florida and against Notre Dame. Like we're, we're doing some eye test stuff here where o they look bigger, stronger and faster, but it hasn't produced offensive results that you're like, wow, they make a lot of big plays. That's not a big play. Offense. It hasn't been so far this season.

[Dan Le Batard]

They scored 26 points against one of the best defenses in the country. If you think they're going to score 60 points every game, no you're heading, Greg.

[Greg Cody]

They scored 26 points, but they scored 26 points at least in part because Florida's offense was so bad. Like they should have scored 50 points given where they were starting with field position some of the time, especially in the first half. The fact that that game was 13 nothing at the half, given that Florida did nothing but have three and outs the entire time, I can sit here and make a good argument that, that Miami's opponents haven't shown you much this season.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. I think, I think most people dare say most people, except you were very impressed with the way Miami beat Florida. I was. The poll voters were to move them.

[Greg Cody]

Up 4 to 2 the same way that LSU beat Florida. And I think it's fair to say now given what we've seen from Clemson, we have no idea how good LSU is either.

[Billy Gil]

Sure, LSU is that good. Yeah, Miami's in a weird spot where they don't have a dominant offense but they have dominant drives within these games where you're like, oh wow, Miami can move the ball against really anybody in the country and it's like 10 play drives end in a touchdown. I think that's the way Chris wants to play. Like he wants to pound the ball on the ground. I think that's how he wants to play.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean they're not, this is not the Cam ward off the flawed Cam Ward team from last year where maybe they're going to win a game 38, 35 if they can launch a big comeback. This is a better all round team. It's a more balanced team offensively. They run the ball, they eat the clock, they play defense. I mean a 267 win over Florida is impressive.

[Greg Cody]

Greg, here's why it's not impressive. Carson Beck over six on passes longer than 10 yards, more than more than half of his completions, nine behind the line of scrimmage, 160 passing yards, the fewest he's ever had in a game that he started and finished in his career was terrible. Yeah, agreed it was. But those are bad stats like that, that, that's not showing you much. You would agree that so far this season their offense has not shown you very much. They are, they are strong. They're a physically strong team. That part's obvious. Their, their offense is physically strong, but you have not gotten the kind of play. And I don't want this to sound like criticism, I'm just saying if you' to file the criticism against fsu, you can also file it against Miami. FSU did beat Alabama. While you might not think that Alabama is any good. Notre Dame has shown you nothing this season.

[Dan Le Batard]

Carson Beck had the worst game of the season for him. The worst game he'll have all season, I believe.

[Billy Gil]

You don't know that.

[Dan Le Batard]

And yet they won handily over a very good defense. That's a game they lose last year, if Cam Ward has that kind of game last year. They don't beat anybody this year, despite their quarterback having a terrible game. Really, really bad. They ran the ball. They played defense. Their offensive line dominated, and they dominated. They had a chance to win that game, and they did.

[Billy Gil]

I mean, it's not like they've gone out there one of these games and scored 16 or like the 26 they scored against Gators was their lowest output so far this season. I mean, and they scored 27 against Notre Dame. I get it. A and m put up 4:41 against them, but 27's not nothing. You know, I mean. And I would say, I think we could probably agree that Carson Beck is going to be better moving forward than he was last week. Like, I.

[Greg Cody]

Well, he can't be. Can't be worse.

[Billy Gil]

Right? And they still scored 26.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right?

[Billy Gil]

You know, I. I don't. I don't want to put down what the Canes have done so far with their resume. I like the Cane's resume so far, but I will add, they haven't played a single road game yet, and they don't even leave the state until November. Yes, that's important to point out. So is the U back or not? I don't understand. I'm unsure. Somewhat. Somewhat. They can't halfway. It's like you're in or you're out. Are they back? Are they not? They're definitely back, Jeremy.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, my God.

[Dan Le Batard]

The U is back. I like it.

[Billy Gil]

Thank you. Put that on a shirt. The U is Beck.

[Dan Le Batard]

I do think we can meet in the middle here and agree that, um, SU is the biggest test yet for both teams. Let's just agree on that, because it is. And agreed. As. As says they don't. They haven't played on the road yet. That in and of itself is a big.

[Greg Cody]

Jeremy, what kind of objections did you have? Because this tone is very different from yesterday's tone when I feel like we all anointed the University of Miami the championship yesterday.

[Billy Gil]

We spent seven minutes on this show yesterday talking about Mario Cristobal's confidence in the way that he's walking around. I mean, are you. Did you not hear him interviewed? And he looks thin, by the way. The praise for the team finally winning the game they haven't won for 20 years. That's what this is. This is. Oh, Miami has lost this game for 20 years. So now that they finally won one, when we don't. You don't. Oh, my God. Congratulations for scoring two of your touchdowns in the final couple of minutes to make that game look like a bigger blowout than it was against a Florida team that's not going to make a bowl game and was out without four defensive linemen. Like, they have a very good defense. They're going to play good defense all year. They're also probably going to win four football. I love how you're like. And you scored two touchdowns late to. It's like, yeah, you scored two touchdowns. Yeah, but we're going to talk about, like, it's a blowout. It wasn't a blowout 13 to 7 until there were four minutes left in the game. Two touchdowns don't matter. Of course they matter. What are we doing here? Well, we're doing 26 points as if it was like this easy thing and then they were coasting at the end. All I'm trying to say is I was told last week that Carson Beck is better than Cam Ward potentially. And I have not seen anything like that. I don't think anybody told. I went back and listen to the show. They just said that Cam Ward would have lost that game also. Yeah, they said that, too. And I went back and listened to the show on. I believe it was August 21st. I was told that Carson Beck had a better fall camp than Cam Ward did, which, of course was a rhetorical trick, as Mike Ryan pointed out. And then last week, Dan said Mike saying that Carson Beck is better than Cam Ward. And you know who got no pushback? Dan from Mike. Because that's what you guys believed after beating a USF team that built up their credibility against a bad uf.

[Dan Le Batard]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Greg Cody]

Not you guys. I've been making fun of Mike for that take for two weeks because he has been saying that he thinks that Carson Beck is going to be better than Cam Ward and has been better than Cam Ward. And I believe that this offensive line is better than the one that Cam Ward had. And although Cam Ward had Restrepo, I believe that this team has more wide receiver options. Although Florida covered them up. FSU is averaging 58 points per game. I know they aren't playing anybody, but. But their offense and Castellanos, they. They look like Miami looks. They looked against Alabama, and it's confusing to me. Because they went from 13 and 1 to 2 and 10, which is something I've never seen in the history of the sport.

[Billy Gil]

Well, they lost their quarterback.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. But I still have a lot of teams lose their quarterback every year and I've never seen that happen to a team before where they go 13 and 1 and then they go to 2 and 10. Where in that sport? Who the hell is 2 and 10? When. When you're one of the major.

[Billy Gil]

And when they won 13 games, they lost the ball game by 60.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, that was. And because they lost their quarterback as, as Billy mentioned.

[Billy Gil]

But they also, I mean, they put up 77 against East Texas A&M and 66 against Kent State.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you.

[Billy Gil]

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[Greg Cody]

Don LeBatard. Billy, somebody has written in here. I need way more.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm sorry.

[Billy Gil]

I just said in his headset. Haven't you been to all of them too?

[Dan Le Batard]

It sounded like you were speaking aloud. My bad. Totally on me. That's 100% on me.

[Billy Gil]

All right, Stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

But that goes without saying, right? That it couldn't.

[Billy Gil]

Well, now he said it, didn't. He didn't. Say it again.

[Greg Cody]

Greg.

[Dan Le Batard]

My apologies, Greg.

[Greg Cody]

Why Greg?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, Greg.

[Billy Gil]

He apologized.

[Greg Cody]

Craig, sincerely.

[Billy Gil]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach. So let me just add here, even if you want to doubt the Cane's resume so far, okay? Ohio State's number one, which makes sense. Defense, Defending national champion. They wanted home against Texas. Who should be ahead of Miami right now? Penn State has played nobody. Lsu. They beat the same Florida team, and they beat a Clemson team. That is definitely not any good. Georgia. Maybe you want to say something nice about Georgia because they wanted Tennessee. Okay, fine. Oregon's played nobody. Like, who should be ahead of Miami?

[Greg Cody]

That's a good point by Zaz. Because while I can sit there and knock down and I can all three of Miami's opponents, because how many losses are there on that? You've got three teams. Notre Dame's got two losses. Florida has two losses.

[Billy Gil]

Three losses.

[Greg Cody]

Three losses. Excuse me. Three losses. And South Florida beat Florida and both of them can't lose. The game. Somebody's got. Somebody's got to tie. So they could tie. But that's not. So you got one launch, you've got three teams. They play the next.

[Billy Gil]

Can you tie in college? Maybe you can't. Yeah, but the number one team in the country at the time beat the number one team in the country. So that's a bigger win than any of Miami's wins.

[Greg Cody]

You can't tie actually in college.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, no ties.

[Greg Cody]

They'll play 400, though.

[Billy Gil]

It's going forever.

[Greg Cody]

They'll play 400 overtime. There will be no ties in college.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's as marinate in his error.

[Greg Cody]

I just. I just realized that. But what he's saying is correct because nobody has played anybody just yet. And because you guys aren't sure who's actually good, you only have the choice. Right now. The only team that would have an impressive win is the one that beat Ohio State. Are we in on that? Like it's not possible to have, given that we thought Alabama was going to be better than that. I suppose Florida State could make the argument that they should be ranked ahead of Miami. Please. They can make the argument.

[Dan Le Batard]

Be a bad argument. They're eight for a reason. They're eight for a reason. And let me give you a bulletin here. Now. The FSU game at Virginia obviously will shape what I'm about to say right now. Though Miami will be favored in Tallahassee. They will be favored, yes. Probably by two and a half. It would be my early guess, but mark my words, I'll take bets on that.

[Billy Gil]

I mean, the reality is this. Florida State is ranked 8th because they started the year unranked. Miami started the year highly ranked. And so when they continue to win against teams of. Of repute, because the voters don't know anything, that's why USF was 18 after one win. I think you're wrong. I think USF is good. Like, USF is one of the better group of five teams. Yeah, they're fine. Like, good. Let's give the group of five credit now. Like, that's not what you're gonna do in the long term. Ultimately, they might. They might be the group of five representative, but the, the resume that they've built up thus far is beating Boise State. Another group of five team that was. Is of high repute, mostly based off the reputation that they have from a Statue of Liberty play 18 years ago. Well, I mean, they're ranked again, are they? No, they're not ranked again yet. But they also. Look, USF wins at an SEC team It's a good win. It's a good one. I understand that. But that same SEC team is going to lose like eight games. And did we talk about Vanderbilt when they were winning three games? Already lost three.

[Greg Cody]

He's got him with four wins this season.

[Billy Gil]

If we're going to have a haven't played anybody off, maybe, right, It's Penn State.

[Greg Cody]

It's everybody.

[Billy Gil]

No, but this week they've played fiu, Nevada and Villanova. And Billy claims FIU look good. They did scored zero.

[Greg Cody]

I just realized that we could basically say of all of the unbeaten dead.

[Billy Gil]

Animals in his kitchen, he's lecturing me. That was where we're still worried about.

[Greg Cody]

That every team in the sport that has a winning record, we could say they haven't beaten anybody.

[Billy Gil]

Every single time Ohio State beat. They're the only one team in the country.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, this year, look, Ohio State is number one, period. There's really no argument. And then it's like a. It could be a five or eight team tie for second. Anybody in the top 10, almost especially the top eight, could make an argument. Well, we should be.

[Greg Cody]

Billy, I assume. I assume that Texas is good, but go ahead and prove it. Go ahead. Go ahead and look at their schedule and prove it to me.

[Billy Gil]

They can only play the games that are on their schedule, Dan. And they lost to the now number one team in the country by a touchdown. What would you like them to do to prove it to you? Have we mentioned Texas A and M because they have a win at Notre Dame, but we don't know if they're good.

[Greg Cody]

One and two Notre Dame. Yeah, it's a good trick. It's a good trick to play that basically anyone you say to me has a good win. You're only doing it based on how the voters rank them.

[Billy Gil]

Before we spend 25 minutes talking about rankings, if none of it matters, I mean, it doesn't matter who UM beats and Ohio State doesn't matter in Texas, then why do we spend 25 minutes talking about it? Um, should be ranked number two. I just think that ultimately. Ultimately anointing them. No, I think anointing them after a win over Florida, as if that is some sort of statement of epic proportion. Like this team is going to be a national champion because they can go on the road and beat a Gator team that just lost to USF in that same. You rather they played Ken has a terrible quarterback. No, I got it. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that when we let Mike give a acceptance speech in which he's thanking the Sid at the university because of a win over the Gators. I think maybe we're letting things go a little too far. It's at the same time we're insinuating we didn't talk enough about, um. And I know I'm a coward for doing this when Mike's not here, but I would do it to his face.

[Dan Le Batard]

Behavior gutless.

[Billy Gil]

I mean, Mike does something on Monday, then you come in on Tuesday when he's not here. Look, you talk your crap to him when you're not here and he talks his crap to you. And then finally Thursday, we get the two of you talking to each other. Hey, look, man, UCF is in better scoring offense and scoring defense.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know what? Cam Gorby, the Sid, he does do a hell of a job.

[Billy Gil]

He does.

[Dan Le Batard]

He really does.

[Greg Cody]

Moving on to last night's football game. Baltimore and the Detroit Lions. I wanted to ask the group of you a question on something because the changes in this sport have been really interesting. I remember Aaron Rodgers came on with us and claimed, and I don't know that we could refute it, that he invented the quarterback who doesn't turn the ball over a lot that he invented once upon a time. Greg, you can speak to this. Dan Fouts was considered a great quarterback who would often throw five interceptions in a game. And the way the sport has changed has put such a premium on don't turn the ball over that you've got a lot of quarterbacks all over the league, whether it's Jalen Hurts or Kyler Murray who are thrown for 150 yards, because it's just like nothing is more important in that league than don't turn the ball over. So now Derrick Henry has three fumbles in three games. He never fumbles. And I don't think that's the way he's going to age. We've seen no proof of him aging. He seems like the closest thing in that sport to a superhero, but the position is disposable. What's his contract, Tony? I think he signed there for $10 million a year because he was available to everybody. And what I wanted to ask you, because the sport has gotten so good at individual metrics and measurements and the turnovers are at such a premium. How many turnovers does a Derrick Henry have to have that it dilutes his excellence? Because the way that we're measuring these guys, if you turn the ball over, it's such a catastroph that you end up undoing some of the Good work you do. Where we can claim that Derrick Henry's turnovers are now responsible for the Ravens. We believe they're a good team even though their defense has given up as many points as the Dolphins. Like their defense gives up way too many points. But we can make the claim that Derrick Henry is responsible for losing a couple of games because you cannot turn the ball over in that sport. So what? How many do I have to give you before you say, hmm, that's undoing the good work. That's a, that's a net negative at a position that's disposable in the entire league, even though on that team it's pretty important because their running game makes everything happen.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. And Derek, the timing of his fumble loss last night was the turning point of the game. I think throughout the NFL there's a lot of RB1s who get benched if they fumble and lose three times in three games. Derrick Henry's not one of them. Okay. You ride him all season long. Now if it gets to the point where at mid season he's got five, six fumbles, maybe you reconsider. But right now you don't even.

[Greg Cody]

He's got as many fumbles in three games as he had all of last season. This is not a human being who fumbles the ball.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right.

[Billy Gil]

Two years, 30 million. You just signed an extension in May.

[Greg Cody]

What's the answer to my question though? On given that the sport we will agree on, every coach in the league will now tell you that the most important thing, it's not even making plays. It's don't make plays for the other guys. The protection of the football is at a premium we have simply never seen. And it's part of the reason nobody throws the ball downfield anymore. It's all these, these 5 and 10 yard button hooks all over the field because they want to be super cautious. What's the answer to my question on how many turnovers does it have to be that you're diluting Derrick Henry as value?

[Billy Gil]

I think when if he continues to have the performance that he had the last couple of weeks, where last week he ran for like 20 yards total and this week he only ran for 50 yards total. You know, at least in the first game of the sea. First game of season, right?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. 10 yards of carry.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah. Like he had a hundred some odd yards and it was a fluke play. You'll live with it. But last night you only have 50 yards of carry and 50 yards of the game and he had, he scored a touchdown like a 30 yard run. He really didn't do very much yesterday.

[Dan Le Batard]

But. But Baltimore has much bigger problems than Derrick Henry. Their defense has been one of the disappointments in the league. Yeah, their offensive line last night was awful. They gave up like seven.

[Billy Gil]

Detroit manhandled them. They really did.

[Dan Le Batard]

Detroit's offensive line was fantastic, which is.

[Billy Gil]

Annoying because they've just replaced these two guards. We've been work trying to get a guard for 15 years down here in Miami and they're like, oh, we had some people leave our offensive line. They replaced those guards and it looks like a well oiled machine. That so annoying.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was the difference in that game last night for me is that one offensive line was great and the other was terrible. And that's one of the reasons why I think the University of Miami is not a good team, but a great one because they're great on the offensive line and the defensive line.

[Billy Gil]

The Big Dog was saying that the um, offensive line could be better than the Dolphins right now.

[Greg Cody]

Billy, why are you laughing at what just happened?

[Billy Gil]

The Big Dog was saying.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, you were listening on the way in to Joe Rose, were you?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

What was it? Tell us more about what the Big Dog was saying because. Yes.

[Billy Gil]

Well, it was him and Omar Kelly talking about Omar's love life and then we got into how's that going the offensive line? Right now he's focusing on himself and being a good dad. Alright, that's great. He said it on air. I mean, I feel like I can share it.

[Dan Le Batard]

You go, Omar.

[Billy Gil]

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[Billy Gil]

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[Billy Gil]

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[Greg Cody]

The Detroit Lions have one of the two best offensive lines in the league and have had it for three years. They've made Man Campbell look like a genius, even though Man Campbell is not a genius.

[Billy Gil]

The my thought the entire Game last night, relative to Detroit was. I just couldn't stop thinking, how the hell did they look the way they did week one against Green Bay?

[Greg Cody]

Well, Green Bay's. Green Bay's defense is really good. And I do believe that if I put Detroit on the road outside of a dome, that they can look like that. That I don't. I. What Green Bay's defense has shown us this year is that it is absolutely elite. I know that yesterday was a surprise. Sunday was a surprise that they lost.

[Billy Gil]

At Cleveland, but they weren't able to get after Jordan. Love the way they got after Lamar. What, they have eight sacks last night. Yeah, it was insane. And to the, to the packers point, it's like, yeah, the defense is great, but then you let Joe Flacco, who had like 140 yards and a. And a pick score 13 points in 3 minutes and 38 seconds to end your seat, end your game. It's like that.

[Dan Le Batard]

They.

[Billy Gil]

They love losing in these weird spots.

[Greg Cody]

Their defense has been bad this year. I'll say it again. They've given up as many points as the Dolphins. And I believe the Dolphins to have a historically bad defense. I believe that the Dolphins are going to look like that on defense most of the year against most teams that aren't.

[Billy Gil]

The jets next week. One and two Chiefs against one and two Ravens. What kind of game is this? Zaz, Is this a. If we were doing big game and not a big game right now, am I gonna give away spoilers? But if we were doing big game or not a big game right now, be a big game.

[Greg Cody]

We're not doing it though.

[Billy Gil]

We're not.

[Dan Le Batard]

Though. We're not.

[Billy Gil]

I'm not giving away any spoilers right now, but that would be a big game.

[Greg Cody]

I. One of the many things that confuses me about that sport is how it is that defense doesn't translate from one year to the other. They were the Ravens second league wide. What you have happening. They've allowed as many points as the dollar Dolphins. Okay. That's an, That's a lunacy. Correct. You guys are in agreement on that? We are. After. After the first week of the season. We all thought that the Ravens were among the best teams in the league. You guys, as we sit here today, you haven't had your faith shaken in Green Bay being one of the good teams in the league. Correct. You're. You. You just thought football happened on Sunday. The. The Browns did something because they've got an elite defense as well. That is just, just football happening in a home.

[Billy Gil]

Jordan Love made a really bad decision. That's what happened.

[Greg Cody]

But we. We have. If. If I asked you guys for a number of good teams in the NFL that you know are good, what's the number? Is it seven? Is it six? It. Is it. Because the Rams are going to be in there, the Eagles are going to be in there, but that, you know, we're good. Is it.

[Billy Gil]

Do we know Indy's good?

[Greg Cody]

I feel like we. I feel like.

[Billy Gil]

I think this is the test.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the test.

[Billy Gil]

I don't think we know yet. Rams and Indy.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, so let me talk about this for a second, because when you talk about Derek Henry fumbling and it being unusual in my lifetime, you tell me if you guys have other examples.

[Billy Gil]

I had six teams I know are good.

[Greg Cody]

Do you guys have other examples? Tiki Barber is someone who corrected a fumbling problem. Josh Allen corrected a turnover problem. I generally think of those things as not correctable. Derek Henry is not a fumbler. And I don't think any of us would allege that that's how a running back ages where he suddenly starts to fumble. Do you guys have any other examples of somebody who can simply eliminate the fact that they turn the ball over? Because it seems to me that more than ever in the league, if on offense, it's a premium that you cannot turn the ball over. On defense, it's a premium that you must. And more guys are punching at the football than we've ever seen. That's not up for dispute. Correct. There's guys throwing haymakers and just hitting the football is not something that's ever happened as much as it's happening right now in today's game.

[Billy Gil]

They are going to change that rule. They are going to take that out of the game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Billy Gil]

Why? You can't just. Because what if you miss the football? You're just allowed to punch plays. How many times did they miss the football and nobody cares? Well, but. But this is why that they're going to start a. Because it's causing a ton of fumbles. And you can't just throw haymakers during the game at players. It's a crazy thing if you miss and you just. You just give a left hook to a guy. It's one of the most accurate things in the sport when it's done properly. Right. Somebody's diving to the goal line, and then all of a sudden Landman comes out of nowhere.

[Dan Le Batard]

Pow.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, but. But Zaz is right. If you eliminate the punch, then all of a sudden you've eliminated the violence in that sport.

[Billy Gil]

What else does he want? Man?

[Dan Le Batard]

No. Yes.

[Billy Gil]

You want to take it out of the game, huh?

[Dan Le Batard]

The fumble should happen in the course of a tackle.

[Greg Cody]

Last year the Ravens defense was second league wide in rushing success rate. This year they're last. I don't get that. I. Do you guys have an explanation for me? Does anyone have an explanation for me?

[Billy Gil]

My only explanation be three games and.

[Greg Cody]

And the first one was a bit of a fluke. But I. I am still surprised by seeing Detroit running up and down the field outdoors on the road. When I saw what they look like against Green Bay and I believe I the. I believe that the way to beat Detroit because they are very physical up front on both sides. Like you've got some stats from last night's game that we have not seen before. The. The Lions are the only team in the super bowl era to have a game with seven plus sacks, four plus rushing, tts, zero turnovers, zero sacks allowed. That's exactly the kind of team that you want to travel with on the. That you want to play in the snow on the road with. But I don't think any of you believe in Jared Goff on the road. You all think that game against Green Bay can happen to Detroit on the road against a good defense.

[Billy Gil]

And I thought this was a setup spot where it's like, oh, Jared Goff. They kind of figured things out against the Bears. This is a normal spot for Jared Goff to go like 17 for 30. Buck 82 and two picks. I got 12 good teams.

[Dan Le Batard]

No way. I have seven. You want to hear him? Yeah.

[Billy Gil]

Tell me who's not a good team here? Rams. Good team. 49ers not good team. That's a good team.

[Dan Le Batard]

No.

[Billy Gil]

3. 0. Mac Jones keeping. Keeping everybody injured. That's a good team. Beat the Cardinals 16 15.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, but that one's tough. Just because they're.

[Billy Gil]

Well, USF beat the Gators 18 16, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

No. Niners, they're 3.

[Greg Cody]

0. If you make one more UCF point during this show today, I'm going to ban you from the building.

[Billy Gil]

That was an UCF point. No, but we can hear your like it's all through the. Why? Just because I'm wearing a citronaut shirt?

[Greg Cody]

It's all in there.

[Billy Gil]

I'm going to keep going. That's two. The Bucks.

[Greg Cody]

Wait a minute. That's not two. Because San Francisco.

[Billy Gil]

We split on San Francisco. I think some people agree in this.

[Greg Cody]

Condition, it's a good organization. It's a winning organization. But in this condition, they are so hurt that I don't believe that people expect them to just continue to win.

[Billy Gil]

Next to Bucks, Packers. Okay, okay, Good teams. And then we got Lions, Eagles, commanders.

[Greg Cody]

Well, but I mean, with Jaden Daniels.

[Billy Gil]

And then Chargers, Chiefs, Ravens, bills, chiefs. That's 11 chiefs.

[Greg Cody]

Chiefs are good.

[Billy Gil]

You guys are not. No, I care about.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're half good.

[Billy Gil]

Listen to juju yesterday. Dan's doing this thing. Like, be careful, guys. Dan's always been right. Dan's been right 100. They're gonna get Rashid Rice back and you guys are gonna look dumb. He's Jerry Rice.

[Greg Cody]

Billy. What are you.

[Billy Gil]

And then the Vikings were the last.

[Greg Cody]

You think Tony's in a contract year.

[Billy Gil]

And they're sucking up for summer. Dan's right. No, I didn't say 100% of the time. I said 100% on the Chiefs take. That's.

[Dan Le Batard]

We've.

[Billy Gil]

We've been talking about it for three weeks already. Their offense hasn't been the same. And everybody keeps telling you, no, just wait. It's going to happen. No, it's not going to happen. They haven't been good.

[Greg Cody]

It's weird. What. What's happening with the Chiefs is. Is super weird in terms of. We will not be convinced that it's a lesser offense, even with about two years of proof on it of a lesser offense. Like, it's just what being grandfathered in there is. You simply can't erase how good Patrick Mahomes and how much hyperventilation from all the announcers it's been so that you can't. There are no amount of facts that I can put in front of people that are going to change their mind on this.

[Billy Gil]

Where do we land on the Vikings? No.

[Dan Le Batard]

No. All right.

[Billy Gil]

Well, defense, you guys, at least. All right, let's say I took out the 49ers and the Vikings. That's still 10 good teams. You guys said six before. There was a couple in there that, too. That we were a little questioned. I'm taking out commanders.

[Dan Le Batard]

I. I think you have to put parameters on what we mean by good teams. We don't mean. For me, you don't mean teams that look pretty good right now. You mean teams that two months from now we think of as super bowl contenders.

[Billy Gil]

No, I don't think that's what we're talking about.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. I think that's what we should be talking about. Okay. If anybody is saying Indianapolis Colts have a chance to win the super bowl, you're being delusional. Okay? The Buffalo Bills are up there. Baltimore. I would still put up there the Chargers deserve to be there.

[Greg Cody]

But why are you being delusional on the Colts? Because the point I was starting to make with Tiki Barber and with Josh Allen is that Daniel Jones, through three games, the way they're having him play, seems to have corrected a turnover problem. And the reason I was asking you, do you guys know of people throughout the history of the sport who have corrected that issue? Because Daniel Jones used to play in a panicked way out of desperation because of the way that the Giants structured everything around.

[Billy Gil]

But they played two bad teams in the Dolphins and the Titans. The Broncos is a game that they almost lost, but they've played too bad. The Dolphins defense is atrocious.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, but.

[Billy Gil]

But. But they've murdered those two bad. Okay, but the turnovers is because he's been playing against two bad teams. Those will come when he's playing good. Teams like this will come back down to the norm. Tony's right. Like this week, week at Rams.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, that's a who's who. Daniel Jones will have the four pick game where the entire country in unison, like a chorus goes, he's back. Don't trust. Don't trust Daniel Jones yet. Come on.

[Greg Cody]

It's a who's who game.

[Billy Gil]

I mean, it's something. I mean, it is.

[Greg Cody]

Well, which is it? Make a decision. It can't be. It's either a who's who game.

[Billy Gil]

I want to see what's something.

[Greg Cody]

Is it is. Is it a what's what game? Is it a who's who game or is it something.

[Billy Gil]

We know The. The Rams are a who, so it can't be a who's who game. Big game or not a big game?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a what's what?

[Billy Gil]

Like, I want to see what's.

[Greg Cody]

Wait a minute.

[Billy Gil]

The Colts.

[Greg Cody]

Tony, you can't. Tony has just put in front of Zaz the most important of questions. Zaz is going to make a ruling. He is a judge. He's a lawyer. He's not a vet. We learned that earlier. He's not. He is not a vet.

[Billy Gil]

But I do know how dogs age. But you're getting plenty of dead dogs.

[Dan Le Batard]

I get it.

[Greg Cody]

You're gonna get. That was interesting to see Greg Cody go over the top of both of you on. He's had more dead pets than the rest of you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I've had longer, too. How come we.

[Billy Gil]

How come we only do the years thing with dogs, though? Like, we don't do cats in cat ears and stuff like that. It's just for cat. We're like, you're 8, you're 9, you're 10.

[Dan Le Batard]

But a dog.

[Billy Gil]

It's like he's 33 in dog ears.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, we could do that with all animals.

[Billy Gil]

Stupid.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I mean, a lion always hated dog. A lion lives to be 10 in the wild and 15 to 18 in captivity. So what do we do there?

[Billy Gil]

Hold on a second. Do people actually ask you how old your dog is? And you're like, he's 36? People do dog years.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a thing.

[Billy Gil]

I'm with you. I hate it. Dog years is a thing. How old your dog?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, he's 28. And dog.

[Billy Gil]

No one says.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nobody says that. I say my dog is three and a half. I don't say he's going on 21.

[Billy Gil]

He's getting old. He's seven. Wait, so I made up dog ears. No, you didn't know. What are you guys doing to me?

[Dan Le Batard]

But nobody calls their dog.

[Billy Gil]

Everyone's looking at me right now like, chris, you're an idiot.

[Greg Cody]

You get.

[Billy Gil]

It's like, this is.

[Greg Cody]

I'm not looking at you that way. We don't do cat ears. That's not something that we do. I assume that's because they have not nine. Nine lives. I don't know why. I don't know. I don't know why we don't do cat. Why do we only do that? Thank you, Billy, for always supporting.

[Billy Gil]

I was trying to hit a laugh button, but I'm not there. I can't hit. You know, what am I supposed to do?

[Greg Cody]

Can you guys explain to me if there's a coach in the league that you think we were in the middle of?

[Billy Gil]

Big game. Not a big game. Yeah. Dan, what are we doing? Sorry. Oh, come on. Colts, Rams. I'm not going to give you spoiler here, all right? But if Colton Rams were playing right now, that'd be a big game.

[Greg Cody]

We don't have any imaging that. We don't have anything. We don't have anything to support.

[Dan Le Batard]

Big game likelihood. Rams win big. Extraordinary.

[Greg Cody]

So you're done.

[Billy Gil]

You.

[Greg Cody]

You. You said you don't believe in the Colts. Pat McAfee says every year that the Colts are going to win the Super Bowl. He's the only one saying it, and you're saying it, that the Rams are going to throttle the Colts?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I don't think the Colts defense is great. I think it's pretty good. Better than usual. I think Jonathan Taylor is off to a great start, but I think Daniel Jones is going to become. Is going to be Daniel Jones, and I think the Rams are going to make him look like that. I just do. I could be wrong. Maybe a couple of months from now the the the The Colts are 8 and 1 and then I'm eating my words. But right now I don't trust their three and oh start.

[Greg Cody]

You say that there are two bad teams and you are right that they have played the col. Played two bad teams. But still there are a lot of bad teams in the league as we just surmised. And only one of the good teams has had 19 straight drives without having to punt because they scored on all 19 of the first 19 drives of the series.

[Billy Gil]

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