Local Hour: The Duke(s) Of Haz(z)ard

Summary

Episode Overview

Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Local Hour: The Duke(s) Of Haz(z)ard
Date: March 30, 2026
Main Theme:
Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the crew dive into sports, TV nostalgia, and pop-culture. They open with a reflective discussion on the era-defining popularity of The Dukes of Hazzard, relate it to today’s fractured media landscape, and then pivot to animated debates about Duke basketball’s recent tournament loss—examining why America delights in Duke “choking.” The episode also features Miami Marlins optimism, Miami Heat analysis, and spirited banter about sports fandom, network TV, and the future of the Heat roster.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Dukes of Hazzard and TV’s Monoculture (01:30–05:09)

• Dan Le Batard quizzes the crew’s knowledge of The Dukes of Hazzard, revealing how massive the show was (“One in three American televisions were tuned into that show. It was. 40 million people were watching that show at its height.” — Dan, 01:52).
• Comparison to today’s fractured TV landscape:
  • Appointment viewing is rare; shows like Game of Thrones or The Walking Dead don't match those numbers.
  • Streaming platforms and digital media make national TV phenomena unlikely now.
• The group riffs on what today could possibly touch such cultural reach—with only sports like the Super Bowl coming close.

2. Duke Basketball: America’s Favorite Schade (07:01–11:41)

• Dan opens a poll: “Is there anything better in the history of sports than Duke choking?” (07:01)
• The panelist consensus:
  • Other nominations: Cowboys failing (08:33), Yankees choking (08:52), but Duke is special due to its elitist, “smarter than you” aura.
  • “If Harvard were good at sports and they gave off that they were smarter than you… at the end there… you would have had a better result than the one that you had.” — Dan (09:28)
• Generational differences are probed: Stugotz notes his Duke hatred began with Christian Laettner; Kenny points out this year’s Duke lacked the “annoying white guy,” making them less hateable.
• Dan Hurley’s reaction to beating Duke, and how dislikable Duke must be for people to root for Dan Hurley, gets a laugh (11:00).

Memorable Quote

“American sports fans enjoy more than Duke specifically choking—not just losing, choking up and down. You can put the pictures up of John Shire. You can put the pictures up of stunned people…”
— Dan Le Batard, (07:19)

3. Marlins Mania & Baseball Observations (11:41–16:10; 18:40–20:44)

• Early-season excitement: Marlins off to a 3–0 start for the first time since 2009, possibly about to go 6–0.
• The Marlins' dramatic win and the emergence of Owen Casey, a new fan favorite, who hit a walk-off homer.
  • Hosts discuss best nicknames for Casey (Maple Masher, Big Red, Baby Ginger).
  • “Casey might be the second greatest left handed hitting ginger of all time behind Freddy Freeman.” — Amin Elhassan (15:13)
• Quick call-outs to historically bad teams (White Sox, Rockies), and lamenting that interleague play is no longer special.
• Light banter about international baseball broadcast quirks (rooster sound during a Spanish-language call)—and wondering about Hispanic representation in mainstream American TV (20:22).

4. Deep Dive: Network TV’s Waning Power and Representation (20:49–22:41)

• Dan reflects on how Hispanic representation in national media is still minimal, with Guillermo on Jimmy Kimmel cited as the most prominent daily presence.
• Running joke/inner monologue on using Dukes of Hazzard references—meta-humor on aging and nostalgia.

5. Miami Heat: Roster, Decline, and Defensive Struggles (23:28–39:42)

• Dan asks if the supposedly “playoff-tested” Heat might actually have no edge at all in a postseason series, given their poor form.
  • “Did they break Bam by making him play that way?”
• Theories tossed around: load management, fatigue, and lack of elite talent coming home to roost.
• Heat’s problems with depth and defense, with special attention to Bam Adebayo’s regression and the Tyler Herro dynamic.
• Comparison with other struggling teams (Indiana’s injury woes) and the larger context of what real playoff experience means.
• Debate: Does playoff experience matter if it’s just repeated losing, like with Quinn Snyder? (29:59)

Memorable Quote

“They have three all stars. For whatever that’s worth.”
— Dan Le Batard (34:36)
“It’s not worth much.”
— Stugotz (34:40)

6. Competing, Trading, and Team-Building: What Do the Heat Need? (36:11–46:10)

• Do the Heat need just one more star, or three? Consensus: they lack enough elite talent to contend at the highest level.
• The idea of a “Maple Masher”—nicknames, basketball star potential, and the subjective value of accolades like All-Star appearances.
• Trade talk: Should Miami have dealt Norman Powell at the deadline to maximize value, realizing he overlaps with Tyler Herro?
  • Amin: “In a front office, we didn’t care about stuff like that [accolades]. We cared about the player… What needs does he address?” (43:37)
  • Kenny: Suggests Powell’s All-Star is more about narrative than production (“the way Jamal McGlore was an All Star”—44:09)
• Final laughs about boring All-Star seasons, “Demolition Man” action movies, and silly sports nicknames.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “One in three American televisions were tuned into that show. It was. 40 million people were watching that show at its height.” — Dan Le Batard, 01:52
• “Is there anything better in the history of sports than Duke choking?” — Dan Le Batard, 07:01
• “American sports fans enjoy more than Duke… choking up and down. You can put the pictures up of John Shire. You can put the pictures up of stunned people…” — Dan Le Batard, 07:19
• “NFL week seven.” (As a joke about what might compare to Dukes’ audience) — Stugotz, 02:40
• “Casey might be the second greatest left handed hitting ginger of all time behind Freddy Freeman.” — Amin Elhassan, 15:13
• “If Harvard were good at sports and they gave off that they were smarter than you.” — Dan Le Batard, 09:28
• “They have three all stars. For whatever that’s worth.” — Dan Le Batard, 34:36
• “It’s not worth much.” — Stugotz, 34:40
• “In a front office, we didn’t care about [accolades]. We cared about the player… That’s for the press conference. Maybe that’s to sell your owner.” — Amin Elhassan, 43:37

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Topic | Timestamp (MM:SS) | |-------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------| | Dukes of Hazzard & TV monoculture | 01:30 – 05:09 | | Duke basketball “hatedom” & sports schadenfreude | 07:01 – 11:41 | | Marlins/Powell nicknames & analysis | 11:41 – 16:10, 18:40–20:44 | | Hispanic representation in national TV | 20:49 – 22:41 | | Miami Heat, playoff chances, and defensive collapse | 23:28 – 39:42 | | Roster composition, All-Star value, trade philosophy | 36:11 – 46:10 |

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Flow & Tone

The episode blends nostalgic humor, statistics, and sharp sports analysis with quick-witted banter—the panel’s irreverent, self-aware tone keeps even complex topics like media fragmentation or NBA roster-building lively. References to classic TV hits and the Heat’s specific local woes ground conversations for Miami fans, while pop-culture quips and sports follies make it accessible to all.

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Summary Takeaway

This Local Hour explores what’s lost in the shift from shared pop-culture phenomena to splintered fandoms, why schadenfreude for Duke remains an American pastime, and how teams like the Heat must adapt—or risk irrelevance—in an NBA where mere veteran experience matters far less than true star power.

Transcript

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[Dan Le Batard]

Tony, Jeremy, do you guys. Have you ever heard of Dukes of Hazzard? The television show? Is that something that you're familiar with?

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Tony]

There's a car. They drive around in the car. There's Daisy Dukes, short shorts.

[Amin Elhassan]

Right?

[Stugotz]

Just the good old boys.

[Tony]

General Something general from like the forties.

[Stugotz]

I'll tell you what General was. It was. It was the one on the winning side.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stars and bars. The General Lee is what the name of the car was. You guys want to guess at the height of that show's popularity? Because I was just thinking about this this weekend. Cause I had not realized that this show was this popular. It was the first television show that I watched with any regularity back when there were only three networks and it was on Friday night. You laugh. You think I'm the only one watching. One in three American televisions were tuned into that show. It was. 40 million people were watching that show at its height. There is. What is the closest thing that could come to that? That's not the Super Bowl. Like what? What exists anywhere in our fractured television landscape that would come close to being even half that?

[Stugotz]

NFL Week seven.

[Amin Elhassan]

Marlins Baseball.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Okay. Any serious answers? Because sports, outside of sports, is there such a thing? Is that time K Pop Demon Hunter? Is that thing so dead? Is that time so dead that it's not possible? Given like, what is the most watched television show right now? Because you have to appeal everybody with network television, with free television, it almost can't be a streaming show because there are too many people in the country that don't have money and just have the regular channels.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Stugotz]

Like you basically described it. We'll never have TV show ratings like that again for TV shows. Because there used to be three networks and that's it. And you either watch it or you turn the TV off. And now there's just beyond how many channels and how many streaming platforms there are, there are so many more entertainment. I mean, look, if I'm on YouTube or if I'm on TikTok or Instagram, I'm not even consuming produced content.

[Dan Le Batard]

But if you had to, if you had to choose a modern day equivalent of. Because I, you know, Game of Thrones felt a little bit like this and that people had to watch it live, didn't want to watch it three days later. It was sort of appointment viewing. But I don't think, I think HBO still, even Max. I think it's still too much. Premium television. What would be the thing today that would pass for what it is that that was? And what would that number be? It. It's not even 10 million. Right. The Walking Dead had some of this, Yellowstone had some of this. But it wouldn't even be 10 million. Correct. It wouldn't even be a fourth of what it is.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm talking about the Bluey episode with Mickey Mouse. That was crossover. I think it had like 10 million viewers.

[Stugotz]

Beats all you ever saw. Got in trouble with the law since the day they was born.

[Tony]

So they were getting chased around by somebody. Like what was the story?

[Dan Le Batard]

They ran out of storylines really very early.

[Stugotz]

I can explain it pretty easily. Tony. They were in a small town in rural Georgia and they were kind of like good natured, mischievous guys. They get in trouble, but not any real trouble. And they would kind of solve some mysteries and stuff. But also there's a guy in town called Boss Hog. He's kind of the Boss Hog of town. He didn't like them. And their cousin Daisy worked at a bar. Yeah, there you go.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you see Tony? Did you ever see Smokey and the Bandit? It was all playing off of that conceit.

[Tony]

No, did not see that conceit.

[Inner Monologue Voice]

We are playing young today.

[Dan Le Batard]

Purdue was a number one seed as

[Stugotz]

Kirk Cousins look like JCPenney looks like,

[Inner Monologue Voice]

looks like,

[Jeff]

looks like his back, Jack. It's bracket time, so make a chart. Jeff and Gundy look just like the Queen of Hearts. Does Adam Silver look like a torpedo bag? Let's get Martin Sadness back on track. Looks like his back, Jack when the donuts are in front of you does any Reed say don't mind if I do. Adam Silver looks like a cute kid

[Inner Monologue Voice]

thing

[Jeff]

or fried a bag of onion

[Stugotz]

ring

[Jeff]

When Timmy laughs until he ha. That's how you know that looks like his back, Jack Let me hear you

[Stugotz]

say looks like

[Jeff]

looks like his back, Jack. Let's keep on doing it every year though. Ad Danvers has Mr. Bond. Welcome to Tanjir. Jeff Fisher looks like shotgunning beers at a NASCAR track. If you say this game's the best, I'll say Zak looks like his back.

[Dan Le Batard]

Northwestern is gone from the tournament.

[Stugotz]

Jim Harbaugh looks like a casket salesman

[Dan Le Batard]

Fairly Dickinson 16 seed repped by Mike McDaniel.

[Stugotz]

Look like a college student on a full ride scholarship for esports.

[Kenny]

What a run.

[Jeff]

Looks like his back, Jack,

[Dan Le Batard]

put it on the poll, please. At lebatard show. Is there anything better in the history of sports than Duke choking? And I think it goes for the entirety of my lifetime, like Alabama's a bit of a Johnny Come lately in football. Duke 20 years before that, before Nick Saban, before Alabama football 20 years before that, everybody was rooting for Duke to choke. That team is good enough. It should be unbeaten. Like that team shouldn't have lost a game this season. That team has two unfathomable losses on its resume. The same North Carolina did the same thing to him that UConn just did, where UConn's 1 for 18 from 3 and wins a game because they go whatever it was, four out of five or five out of six from three at the end after starting one for 15. But I mean, you're a veteran sports observer. Give me something that American sports fans enjoy. American sports fans enjoy more than Duke, specifically choking. Not just losing, choking up and down. You can put the pictures up of John Shire. You can put the pictures up of stunned people because you do not expect that game to go that way. Braylon Mullins became household name and became a household name for all time for taking that shot. A team again that started 1 for 3 for 18 from 3. What would you guys nominate for things that American sports fans enjoy more than Duke choking?

[Stugotz]

Cowboys doing anything bad. Anytime anything bad happens to the Cowboys, everyone Takes great delight, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think Duke is even bigger and badder because the Cowboys, for all that they are, they don't give off. We're smarter than you. They may give off. The fan base may give off we're better than you, but not we're smarter than you.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yankees choking. When the Yankees choked in 04, that was, like, world renowned. Thank God the Yankees choked again.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good, good nominees. But no school or no entity has what this thing does, which is an elitist. We're more educated than the people who are rooting for our demise. We're.

[Inner Monologue Voice]

Nobody's better than our idea.

[Stugotz]

The. The old. You're gonna work for us one day or whatever. Right. That's the crowd that Duke has. I'm trying to think. No, I don't know. I see the game.

[Mike Ryan]

You're playing Harvard.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, it's the same. Yes. It's.

[Inner Monologue Voice]

If Yale.

[Dan Le Batard]

If Harvard were good at sports. That's what it is. If Harvard were good at sports and they gave off that they were smarter than you. And at the end, you're making fun of them because they look like they're not smarter than you. At the end there, when you've got two people down the court to Duke, Blue Devils down the court, you legitimately could have just thrown the ball up straight in the air toward one of them, and you would have had a better result than the one that you had.

[Stugotz]

Dan, let me ask you this question, because you are obviously the elder statesman in the room. My memories of Duke start with Grant Hill and Christian Laettner, and that's where I learned to hate them, really. Christian Laitner is what we're talking about. Pre Christian Laettner. Did people hate Duke like that?

[Dan Le Batard]

It was J.J. redick, Christian Laettner, Gene Wojahowski. Wojahowski. The slapping of the court. Steve. Excuse me.

[Inner Monologue Voice]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Gene was the ESPN guy.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Kenny]

I didn't hate this Duke team all that much. I can't really put my finger on why exactly, but perhaps it's because they're lacking the annoying white guy. I just love that we really showed Duke a lesson with those kids from Connecticut.

[Stugotz]

That's a good point. All those stores. Have you ever been to stores? Sadly, it's. Yeah. Like. Tony, explain what stores is like, because people think Connecticut and they. Oh, yeah. I think Greenwich Country Club. It's not green sweaters around your shoulder and let's go play some tennis. And that's not what stores is like.

[Amin Elhassan]

I love.

[Tony]

You know, the state of Connecticut had a great time there. When you get to Hartford, you Hear

[Amin Elhassan]

Hartford, you're like, oh, wow.

[Tony]

And then you get to.

[Mike Ryan]

You're like, oh, wow.

[Tony]

And the stores, not much better.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you know how hateable you have to be as a franchise for people to like that? Dan Hurley won.

[Stugotz]

Yes. That's a good.

[Kenny]

I was so excited to watch Dan Hurley have to react to Duke's whistle. And that delivered immediately. I saw a video of him going head to head. Not figur. Someone help me out with that word. It was. Yeah.

[Tony]

Figuratively. It wasn't.

[Kenny]

It was an NASCAR Sunday, so I don't want to venture too deep into that word. But yeah, he went head to head with an official. I'd never seen that before. He was pushing his forehead into the stripes. Forehead. Kind of like telling him like, where's that Duke whistle right now?

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan Hurley was overjoyed. And he's done enough winning recently that I don't believe too many people outside of stores in Connecticut are very happy for him. Locally here, the Marlins have started 3. 0, and they've got a chance to start 60 because they are starting with two of the worst teams I've ever seen in the last two years.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, he's right.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not trying to diminish the Marlins best start in 17 years. The way they won yesterday was cool and exciting. And they haven't started. They've only started three and oh, three times in their history. They've won two championships. They've only started three and oh, 3 times in their history. And the last time they did it was 2009. So doing it against anybody matters. But now they have the White Sox. And I'm not kidding you when I say the White Sox two years ago and Colorado last year are two of the worst baseball teams I've ever seen. They've got them at home. They have a chance to start six and oh, because those are terrible teams. The White Sox lost all three games this weekend. Correct. To Milwaukee.

[Inner Monologue Voice]

They gave up like eight runs yesterday

[Dan Le Batard]

in the eighth inning to lose. Yeah, but they got.

[Tony]

Got that Japanese guy, though, Dan.

[Amin Elhassan]

Ooh, Munetaka Murakami. He's a stud. He's at a homer in all three games. But they're going to waste his career because the White Sox are a disaster. Marlin's probably going to start with two series wins. Might be 5 and 1, might be 6, 0. And then they head to the Yankees in New York. That'll be a fun little weekend series.

[Stugotz]

Do you guys miss the days when interleague was like a special thing that happened, like deep into the season. Like, guys, we're going to have NL teams play AL teams now. It's just like, yo, your third series of the year, you're playing the Yankees. You've cheapened.

[Kenny]

Yeah, the Yankees starting in San Francisco was a little odd. Jeremy. I don't know if we're at the point yet with Marlins where we can just start counting games as dubs, but it was a really exciting weekend. And yeah, they've had a friendly schedule here, but especially when it comes to you forecasting wins. Given what we saw yesterday from the Miami Heat, I'm not sure we can.

[Amin Elhassan]

Sorry, what? I really don't know what you're talking about.

[Dan Le Batard]

We'll get in a second and we will talk about that loss. That game was 79, 75 at the half. It wasn't that long ago that the Heat were playing the Knicks in games that that was the final score in playoff games. 79, 75 in overtime. That was the score yesterday at the half. But I want to talk about what Owen Cassie did yesterday because the Marlins ended up.

[Kenny]

It's Casey, budding superstar. Just.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to talk about what he did to end the game because he did. He does a walk off homer and I know all of his nicknames because Tommy, Tommy Hutton gave me all of his nicknames in trying to search for the emotion of talking about what the walk off sounded like. But let's go through some. Let's go through some calls here from announcers in both languages talking about how that game ended with a walk off homer. They had nobody on base. They got a double because Sonoa ends up hitting a ball in the gap and the left fielder takes a bad track on it. And then they get a home run to end the game. But let's hear some of these calls.

[Amin Elhassan]

He's trying to salvage the series. Casey swings. Casey hits it in the air.

[Inner Monologue Voice]

Casey, the deep ride. We're going home.

[Dan Le Batard]

The rest of that, you'll hear them go. The Maple Masher, the big Canadian, Big Red. I didn't. Is he an og? Is he a ginger? Does he classify?

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[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, he's a ginger. Maybe the Max Meer, Max Meyer. Half ginger.

[Amin Elhassan]

Interesting.

[Mike Ryan]

Casey, Ginger.

[Amin Elhassan]

Casey might be the second greatest left handed hitting ginger of all time Behind Freddy Freeman.

[Dan Le Batard]

10 pitch.

[Jeff]

Casey launches high in the air at

[Inner Monologue Voice]

the right and it's done. You can't make this up. The Maple Master secures the sweep.

[Jeff]

And for the first time since 2009,

[Inner Monologue Voice]

the Marlins start a year 3 0.

[Dan Le Batard]

How do you guys feel about the Maple Masher? As a nickname.

[Stugotz]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan, I don't think that the group look at a means face.

[Amin Elhassan]

Does it mean you don't like maple mash?

[Dan Le Batard]

Does Amin's face give off to you that he thinks that's a good nickname?

[Stugotz]

It's a placeholder. Like, I like it as like. Okay, this is what we'll do for now until we find something better. Big Canadian. Terrible.

[Amin Elhassan]

How do you like Big Red?

[Mike Ryan]

My daughter said Baby Ginger.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's giant, she called him. So that's what I'm calling Baby Ginger

[Mike Ryan]

because he's a young kid. He just came up.

[Stugotz]

Also, it's a child that came up with it. Oh, that's terrible. She'll never do coffee for us.

[Mike Ryan]

Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?

[Kenny]

Don't place parlays on multiple long shots. Don't say a game is won when it hasn't hit triple zero.

[Mike Ryan]

Always drink your Jagermeister ice cold. That's the rule. Everything else is merely a suggestion.

[Kenny]

Everything else?

[Mike Ryan]

Everything else.

[Kenny]

Wearing clean underwear every day, well, that's

[Mike Ryan]

just a personal decision. Brushing your teeth, obviously smart, but not a rule.

[Kenny]

Never pee pee on an electric fence.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, maybe there are two rules. But the one that is 100% that I insist on completely, Jagermeister must be drank ice cold or don't drink it at all.

[Amin Elhassan]

Damn, that's cold.

[Mike Ryan]

Exactly. You're finally starting to get it.

[Kenny]

Drink responsibly. Jagermeister liqueur, 35% alcohol by volume, imported by Mass. Jagermeister, U.S. white Plains, New York. Hey, Roy, buddy. Yo. You know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody all together in unison knows to stand up on their feet? Oh, absolutely. Mike. Yeah? You've been at many big time sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you take your first sip of Cuervo.

[Stugotz]

Oh, delicious.

[Kenny]

It's the signal that says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories. Cuervo, man. It's that high five. A random stranger effect. That's right. The game is popping. You're hugging people you never met before. That's the kind of energy that Cuervo brings. It's so smooth, so delicious. That's the Cuervo effect. Keep it, Cuervo.

[Stugotz]

Folks, listen up.

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[Dan Le Batard]

LeBatard but it's just his titties are sitting on the shelf that is his belly stugats.

[Kenny]

He said titties like shocked me a little bit. I wasn't quite prepared for titties.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Don lebatar Show with the stugats. Mike Ryan mentioned the San Francisco Giants and the Yankees playing. Are you aware then the history of baseball? There has not been a more anemic start to an offensive season than what the Giants did against the Yankees. The Yankees rotation is going to be good this year, but the Giants got shut out in the first two games and had fewer than 10 baserunners and then got had an outburst on the third day. They had a run. They got a run. That's the worst. That's the worst the season's ever started offensively for a team to start with a couple of shutouts and they got their first two baserunners of the season on and then they just the rest of the time they got nobody else on base.

[Amin Elhassan]

Crazy to think that they had the worst weekend offensively when the White Sox became the first team in baseball history to strike out 20 plus times and lose by double digits on opening day to the Brewers. 20 plus strikeouts on opening day.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let me hear the call in a different language.

[Jeff]

Audio on Run

[Dan Le Batard]

the rooster sound in

[Stugotz]

the middle of that like that was confused.

[Mike Ryan]

He asked for that, apparently, Tony says in the sound he asked for it.

[Dan Le Batard]

He does ask for it. But if he had not asked for it, I would have accused everybody involved there of racism just for throwing a rooster into the call to, to to make it just a little bit cheaper.

[Stugotz]

It's something that I would imagine that they do on the Simpsons where The Spanish bumblebee is calling the game, right? He just have a rooster right there. And then he call, and then it would make the sound.

[Mike Ryan]

It confused Jeremy and I before the show. We're like, wait, is this, like.

[Stugotz]

Someone's editing this in? It's a drop.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't want to get too serious here with some. Something that people really have fun with, but to have as the greatest form of Hispanic representation anywhere, not. Not in sports media, but anywhere on national television, be Jimmy Kimmel's sidekick, as. As Guillermo. Guillermo's role. What do you mean? That's. That's.

[Stugotz]

That's not the height of.

[Dan Le Batard]

That is the height. It's certainly on late night.

[Stugotz]

Mario Lopez exists, man. We live in a world with Mario Lopez.

[Kenny]

I mean, do we not have a month's worth of super bowl halftime discourse? I don't think Guillermo is moving the needle the same way.

[Tony]

Andy Garcia has been on the show 27 times.

[Amin Elhassan]

What about Domino?

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm talking about daily television show again. Network television. The stuff we were talking with. Dukes of Hazard, being on one out of three American televisions at one point. Network television still matters. I know we're trying to eradicate it, but it hasn't given up. It's. It has not given up its strength just yet.

[Inner Monologue Voice]

One more Dukes of Hazard reference for the rest of the year. So let's be judicious.

[Dan Le Batard]

That is not my voice. That is your voice talking to me,

[Inner Monologue Voice]

telling me what to do.

[Dan Le Batard]

I will be happy to let the inner monologue speak for me as soon

[Inner Monologue Voice]

as it starts representing my thoughts and instead of yours.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, if you.

[Inner Monologue Voice]

If you stop talking to me, I'm not going to stop talking to you. I'll stop talking. I don't even speak for you. I speak for. Well, then get a different voice to do that. I don't want to argue with my inner monologue when it's not behaving as

[Stugotz]

my Kill Dan's on a street corner right now just having an argument by himself.

[Inner Monologue Voice]

The inner monologue voice has to be the my secret thoughts, not you speaking for the audience. That's not what it is. That's not what it is.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's.

[Inner Monologue Voice]

The inner monologue is my private doubts and thoughts. That is not just you saying whatever you want about Dukes of Hazard telling me I've got a rule as to how many more times I can reference it the rest of the year. That's not my voice. I can reference it as much as I want. It's the first television show I ever watched. I'm not Out. You don't decide this.

[Stugotz]

How did we land on Dukes of Hazzard as a topic for today?

[Inner Monologue Voice]

You Bees, you get two more.

[Stugotz]

Is it because Duke lost? Is that why? That's why, yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

You saw Duke Lawson, you were like, remember that show? How quaint.

[Stugotz]

What a hazard that was, to let that guy shoot that three.

[Amin Elhassan]

He's a writer.

[Inner Monologue Voice]

Duke, Hazard.

[Mike Ryan]

It's gonna be a first take. Like, bottom third. This 100% it is.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now, the Miami Heat have been playing bad defense for a couple of weeks when they haven't played bad defense in years. And I want to ask you guys a serious question about this. Did they break Bam by making him play that way? Like, if we're load managing everybody and we're making everybody be careful with their bodies, and he misses a game when he never missed a game for his Cavs, and they. They have limits. I mean, you know this, right? This is a bit of a science. There are reasons that nobody plays 48 minutes a game unless it's in the playoffs. And there are reasons that nobody plays an entire second half. It's because the human body's limits make it so that they've deduced in basketball that there are diminishing returns when somebody gets so tired that they're playing all the time. So we'll never again have Wilt Chamberlain's number of playing all the minutes in a game. But I'm serious when I ask. There is no explicable reason that the Miami Heat would suddenly be bad at defense for the first time in 15 years. And the last two weeks, they have been as bad at defense as all the teams that are trying not to win, that are purposely tanked.

[Kenny]

I. I wish I trotted this take out there, but you remember how, like, Bobby Abreu's production was never the same after that home run Derby because he. He just fell in love with swinging for the fences. I. I thought to myself, I'm like, this is so random for Bam to be this guy, number two in a single game. And he's like, his whole thing is unselfish basketball. I was wondering if him going for 83 would mess with him any kind of tiny bit. And it's as good a theory as I guess any right now is that, you know, he kind of maxed out right there, and it's taken him a while to get back to that rhythm.

[Dan Le Batard]

The previous theory is always, well, Tyler heroes back, and they're hunting him, and when he's on the court, they tend to be worse at. At defense.

[Tony]

I Get that too. But you look at the, at the box score, somebody named Kobe Brown had 18 points and somebody named Micah Potter. You're messing with 21 points.

[Mike Ryan]

You're messing with me.

[Dan Le Batard]

He crushed them in the first half. He made, he made everything.

[Tony]

And he had nothing to do with Tyler herro because he's 611.

[Dan Le Batard]

That game was 79, 75 at the half. Indiana, their demise has been precipitous. Do they, do they have the most injury minutes logged or the injury. Games lost to injury of anybody in the sport. To go from the final to as bad. To go from the finals to as bad as they are. I mean you have to chalk that up to injury.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. No, it's, it's 100. It's not just that. Halberton is out for the year. They started the year. Everybody's hurt. Nemhart, McConnell, Siakam, they were all out. And, and that really laid the groundwork for what could have been a season of hey, we're going to scrap and we're going to fight to guys, there's nothing left here. The crazy thing is, yeah, I think they're number one. I know Oklahoma City's up there too. Believe it or not, the best team in the league is, has been one of the most injured teams this year.

[Kenny]

Pacers should be fine though. I like their, what they did at the deadline. It kind of reminds me of like remember that year David Robinson got hurt and just the spurs were terrible and it ended up with Tim Duncan. Yeah. And then they just went on their 20 year run. I think the Pacers are built for a long time.

[Stugotz]

Then they fired Bob Hill who was a really good coach, but you know they were losing because they're bad and let's get Bob Hill out here. And then their general manager became the coach. Remember his name? What was his name? Something Popovich. Greg. I think Greg Popov. Top of it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Charlotte got exposed a little bit over the weekend. I would say when Boston goes in there without jail, that was without Jaylen Brown.

[Stugotz]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Boston goes in there and smokes them. And also the 76ers went in there at something resembling full health and also beat Charlotte. I would, I would say that nobody in the playoffs wants to see Charlotte or Atlanta. I, I, but, but you always want to see.

[Mike Ryan]

You're messing with me.

[Dan Le Batard]

You always guys doing a thing. No, I haven't been watching Atlanta's like 16 and 2.

[Kenny]

They're like red hot Atlanta.

[Stugotz]

The, the Hornets look again. I'm, I'm going to. I know it Sounds trite and overdone. But again I will point out, look at their roster. Tell me who there comes with sage wisdom and clutch playmaking in a playoff situation. None of them. They're a bunch of children and it's. They're fun and they're exciting and man, I can't wait to see where this goes. But they're going to go into the playoffs and they're going to play a team either, either the Pistons or the Celtics or the Knicks and they're going to find out like, oh, wow, there's another level of basketball that's wild.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like Celtics is one thing, but for you to give Detroit wisened playoff status or for you to even give the Knicks wisened playoff status, even though I know they played for two years, they played meaningful games in the playoffs, it is a little crazy for you to cite those teams as the veteran playoff team.

[Tony]

Yeah. And they were an insane shot that went to the scoreboard and backed down against the Pacers from going to the NBA Finals. If they would have won that game, there's a good chance they win the east and they go into the NBA Finals like they're super battle tested.

[Stugotz]

Also, a guy with seven bucks still has more money than a guy with none. Like, that's. Yeah. Oh, you only got seven bucks, you're broke. You got zero. That's what the Hornets are.

[Inner Monologue Voice]

They got zero.

[Stugotz]

And this is going to be a nice learning experience for them in the playoffs. Now, Atlanta, different story. Atlanta's got some guys, Atlanta's got some vets. And Atlanta, we can tie their turnaround to a very specific event on the calendar, which is they got one guy up out of there and they brought in a couple of veterans who've been around the block. And this has changed basically what we're seeing from them. Quinn Snyder is an experienced coach. He's been around the block versus Charles Lee. This will be his first playoff as a head coach. Like, all of these things add up and I know people don't want to believe it. You want to say, what I see on a Tuesday night in March is ways more than what I've seen in a. On a Saturday night in April. But it's real. It is a real thing where if you haven't gone through it as a group, like, not like, oh, a couple of our guys are untested as a group. We haven't gone through it.

[Dan Le Batard]

The thing that I'm laughing at, and you're not wrong in anything you're saying, but what I'm laughing at is after going all in with the playoff experience of the Knicks and Pistons, you then hit me in the face with battle tested Quinn Snyder as a playoff coach.

[Stugotz]

I mean, Quinn Snyder been to the playoffs how many times in Utah and

[Dan Le Batard]

Atlanta and loses almost every time I can remember. His experience is losing in the playoffs like all the time.

[Stugotz]

What's winning in the playoffs for you?

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, Boston, Boston is the one tested team. And I'll say the Knicks. I will also say the Knicks because the Knicks over the last two years, it's not much of a sample, but over the last two years, they've done more winning than they did in the previous 20 combined. So the Knicks count, but I'm not. Philadelphia would count too.

[Stugotz]

I'm asking for examples. I'm asking you what, what qualifies as playoff success for you?

[Kenny]

You got to get out of the second round for me. Yeah, yeah. And Philly does not count. They are famous failures, okay?

[Dan Le Batard]

But Paul George's experience in the playoffs is not unlike Quinn Snyder's experience.

[Kenny]

Paul George made it to an Eastern Conference final. The whole thing about the process is it hasn't netted an appearance into the conference.

[Stugotz]

I'm telling you guys right now, I would rather have a guy who's been to the playoffs seven times and won and lost, right? Won games, lost games, one series of losses than a guy who's never done it before. Because there's a part of this where you just don't know. Like these people just don't know what's waiting them. And obviously Charles Lee has been assistant coach on some very good staffs. And so he's been in the playoffs before. But it's different when you move over those six inches and sit in that different seat. And now you're the one who's got to make the calls. You're the one who's got to call the timeouts or say, we're pressing here, or say, hey, we're not fouling up. Three, whatever. It's a lot different than when you're just sitting there and giving suggestions with a clipboard.

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard punctuate this segment with what is your strike three call?

[Mike Ryan]

Strike one would be strike and then you stand up and you give a

[Dan Le Batard]

good point to the right stugats.

[Mike Ryan]

That's same for strike two. But strike three. You get down low, you got your hands behind the catcher. All right. The right arm goes up into the air.

[Kenny]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

And then you finish it with the punch. The right arm flings way up into the air.

[Inner Monologue Voice]

I wish I could see that. The audio's great.

[Dan Le Batard]

DCC done. Avatar show with the St. GS. What do you do with the fact that the Miami Heat have all of this playoff tested stuff that you would like to cite as experience that matters. I would not like their chances right now against Charlotte. I would not like their chances against Atlanta and I do not like what they're doing defensively after they've told us for the last two weeks we're going to learn from this. This is a serious time. We all know that we don't want to be a play in team. And now they've lost. What is it now, seven out of eight? We said that they had, we had seven games to test them and they lost all but one of them. And then as soon as they won the Cleveland game, Cleveland eradicated them with another one of those 50. We're going to be up by 50 points and hit you in the head and you're going to have no chance against us come playoff time.

[Stugotz]

I feel like I have to make this clear because there will people in the audience say.

[Inner Monologue Voice]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Tell them Dan, like talent matters in the NBA. You, you can't take us and have spoke coach us the, the eight people in this room and we'll, we'll, we'll fight. We'll be in the. No talent matters.

[Dan Le Batard]

They have three all stars. For whatever that's worth. They have three all stars.

[Stugotz]

It's not worth much.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. But that I know that Norm Powell is a One time all Star. I know that Tyler Hero is a one time all Star. Bam Adebayo is a Top win what, 20 player in the league. Top 25. Top 20, sure.

[Stugotz]

Top 25, I'd say. Yeah, but that's, that's. First of all, Hero and Powell are kind of. They negate each other, right, because of the aforementioned redundancies between the two of them. But then on top of that, like when you look at the overall structure of this team, you still got guys like Pell Larson playing major minutes again. That's great. He's played well. But at the same time it's like it says a lot that that guy can come in and immediately be or work his way to being a starter. When you look at some of these other teams and the talent level that they're starting with, it's much higher. It's the same story I've been talking about for what, since 2022. Whatever. Like the Miami Heat are roster built on we've got to do everything right in order to have a chance to win the game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. But one of the things that we have been saying for the better part of four or five years now is some form of they have to player better than Bam. And then they got Jimmy Butler who was better than Bam. And then we said they've got to get a player better than Jimmy Butler. What you're presently saying is giving credence to what Ethan Skolnick of 5 Reason Sports says when he sees them play the spurs and he says Miami doesn't need one player, they need three.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Depth hurt.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, no, he's not talking about depth. He's talking about they. In order to compete with San Antonio better than Bam. Better than San. To be what San Antonio is, you need to have three players that can match their three players and you've got one that can play with their three guys.

[Tony]

But how do you match a guy who's a generational player? Like oh yeah, we're trying to get to those guys. It's like, well they, they have that

[Dan Le Batard]

guy who's a unicorn. But what I'm saying to you guys is do you agree with that assessment? Because if you agree with that assessment, then you're. You're woefully painful behind in a way that can't be overcome.

[Stugotz]

So let me put it this way. If Stefon Castle played in Miami, he would be the what player for them? Best, Second best. Where would he rank?

[Dan Le Batard]

The best or the second best depending on how you match.

[Stugotz]

He wouldn't be the Best. He'd be the second best. He. He's a. I'm Tony.

[Tony]

We're both talked about it.

[Stugotz]

We're both Castle guys.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're both Castle guys. And he's got a. That's a good system for him. It's very Miami like. But when I see what happened with Strus and Gabe Vincent and I. And furthermore, when I see where Bam and Tyler Herro were drafted and what they became and that this guy was drafted top five, not top. Not top 15, top five. Like, he's.

[Stugotz]

He's.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's a more skilled player based on the value of how they do, how all the teams could have selected anyone they wanted. And Castle is somebody who was viewed as somebody more valuable as a skill set than both Bam and Tyler Hero.

[Stugotz]

Again, I would say that if he came to the Heat, he would not be their best player. Neither would de' Aaron Fox, Neither would anyone on the spurs roster not named Victor Ovanyama. He's. That's the only guy. I was like, oh, yeah, he's clearly better. So you can't tell me, oh, the Heat need three players. We're saying, hey, if you get me someone better than Bam, so Bam doesn't have to be your number one. You're already in a good position. Damn. Jimmy Butler had them in conference finals every other year.

[Kenny]

Like, it's not overly complicated what's happening in the Miami Heat. We saw, even though they made it to the finals twice, twice to win a championship, they needed a player better than Jimmy Butler when Jimmy Butler was on the roster with Bam Adebayo. So they need to add a Jimmy Butler and a player that's better than Jimmy Butler to get to the places that this franchise always claims it wants to go to.

[Stugotz]

I think if in Denver, man, I don't know how good of a player you are to add because of Jokic, but I wonder if Tyler Herro was the current Tyler Hero back then, then would that have made a difference? Maybe. Maybe that series wouldn't be as lopsided as it was. Same thing in the bubble. If those guys were healthy, I wouldn't even say, hey, give me a different version. Give me healthy guys, and I would have given them a chance. And that's one of the examples, Dan, where, like, hey, we're not as talented as them, but maybe our coaching can close that gap.

[Dan Le Batard]

The bubble was interesting because it's the best Anthony Davis has ever shot in his life. Like, the reason the Miami Heat lost that series beyond not having Goran dragged. And Bam Adebayo Available is that was Anthony Davis shooting like 40% from three that entire bubble.

[Amin Elhassan]

I believe it was 95%.

[Kenny]

Don't forget about Jay Crowder though. Jay Crowder was amazing. Miami was just top to bottom. Deeper too. Look, it's the same thing. Like they're not good enough. This is usually. I get jealous hearing you talk about Charlotte and Atlanta because this is usually the point in the calendar where Heat fans start talking about the Heat. That way they're rounding in a form you don't want to play. This team coming out of the play, playing they're going to do it again and they're not in that conversation right now. They seem like they got a long way to go.

[Amin Elhassan]

The funny part about this roster versus years past is this is like a really young roster and they actually have more upside talent than they've had in several seasons. The problem is is that upside talent is young and very inconsistent. Khale Ware and Casper are really talented young kids who were just first round picks. But Khalil Ware from one game to the next is an entirely different player. His impact defensively and offensively is entire different from one night to the next. You have Pella Larson playing those minutes because he's an experienced guy who played several years in college and doesn't make mistakes. But Norman Powell is an overachiever, right? An overachiever who's an all star this year in part because of what the first 15 games were for this team when they were catching teams off guard offensively. And now him and Tyler really equal one all Star because each of them are in and out of the lineup and they're not all stars when they're on the floor together. So. So you have a team that is more talented and younger than it's been in years past, but their inconsistency, particularly defensively, becomes the paramount issue.

[Tony]

I know this would have taken a lot of guts and a lot of cojones, but why didn't they try and move Powell at the deadline knowing that they had max value on him? And then on the backside it's like, what are you going to do to try? You already got Tyler. You can't keep Powell knowing that they're the same guy. Why not maximize value there?

[Amin Elhassan]

It was a transition. I mean, the reality is, is this team, no, this team started hotter and gave people hope off the top. And Norman Powell is a free agent.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

You look at he's a free agent and you go into next season where you have Norman Powell as a free agent that you say get something A sign in trade is a possibility with Norman Powell to get him somewhere else and get you either assets or another player that is strong where you're moving for a player that makes more sense with your roster. You'll have hero on an expiring contract. If Andrew Wiggins ops in which you expected $30 million, he's an expiring contract. The whole narrative going into this season was hold on for a year because this upcoming off season you'll have more assets than you've ever had in terms of draft picks over the last 15 years and you'll have more cap flexibility. It's just the disappointment of that seven game win streak. People like me getting all hyped up and then now you've seen it come

[Stugotz]

crashing even that even without like this big picture planning, Norm Pal is an impending free agent not quite as like asset heavy a return because everyone like what if he leaves? Right?

[Dan Le Batard]

So you don't think you can get a first round pick for him as a final piece somewhere so that you can strengthen your off season package because you have more picks. We were told that they would. That Giannis would stay in Milwaukee because Miami would have more to offer this offseason. You don't believe that they could have lured a number one for an All Star?

[Kenny]

What?

[Stugotz]

Not at the trade deadline?

[Kenny]

No.

[Dan Le Batard]

What worth does being an All Star have if that can't get you a first round pick for an All Star? For a contender looking for scoring and a final piece?

[Stugotz]

I mean like this is the hard part. You know, when I worked in a front office, we didn't care about stuff like that. We cared about the player. We evaluated the player. What does he do? How does he help us? What needs does he address of our whether he was an All Star or not? That's for the press conference. Maybe that's to sell to your owner. So I remember when we traded Boris Diao and Roger Bell for Jason Richardson and Jared Dudley and we had to sell him on Jared Dudley. We're like, this guy's going to help us. I don't know. Because he just never heard of Jared Dudley. So he's just like, I don't know. But like the thing that pushed the deal over the finish line for us was and Jason Richardson is the dunk contest champion. And for, for our owners, like wow. So that means at parties I can say this guy's a dunk contest. Like that was all it was about. But like in terms of those accolades actually meaning something to us, it doesn't mean okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean Though there is a slight difference between dunk champion and All Star.

[Stugotz]

It's all just rhetoric, right? Like, unless you're talking about someone who goes to the All Star Game every year, okay, to me, that's an all. Unless you're talking about someone who's all NBA every year, okay, that's one of the best players. But if we're talking about someone who had a great year and Norm Powell had a great year, and he had a great year last year, too. Probably should have been All Star last year. But again, if I'm a team that's acquiring Norm Powell, I'm acquiring him for all the basketball reasons and for the needs that he addresses of mine. Not because, like, well, let's see, his. Ooh, his basketball reference says All Star.

[Kenny]

I think he's an All Star the way that Jamal McGlure was an all Star.

[Stugotz]

Don't do that. No, don't do that. Don't do that.

[Kenny]

You acquire him, you're like, hey, this guy was an all star.

[Stugotz]

Disrespectful, disrespectful.

[Tony]

McGlore, to Dan's point about getting a piece, if you're a team, if you're a team that's a piece away and trying to make a trade and try to get a first round pick, we saw the Thunder trade a first for Jared McCain and you're going to tell me Norm Powell isn't worth more than Jared McCain?

[Amin Elhassan]

It's a different thing. You're looking at a young player that is going to continue to grow. You're looking at Norman Powell at 32 years old. If you check out all the rosters of the teams that are contenders, trading a first round pick when you're not Oklahoma City, who has an overabundance of picks, who's trading for a young player. He's not a guy that most of those teams actually needed. Not in the East. And if you look at the west shooting guard, there are so many scores.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, it's more than that. It's like Oklahoma City has a plethora of picks, so giving up picks wasn't a big thing to run. They have a salary crunch that's coming because all those guys got paid. Jared McCain's on a rookie team, so he's not only is he young, like, oh, he's young, he can continue to get better. It's like he's on a rookie deal. We've got him for two more years at a very reasonable price. Norm Powell is looking to get paid this off season.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mike Ryan, please find for me. Jamal McGlore's best season, his All Star season. Did he average 14 points a game that season?

[Stugotz]

We're not going to invoke that name here.

[Dan Le Batard]

There were no centers available that season. And you just did Norm Powell dirty by mentioning Jamal McGlore.

[Kenny]

Doing Jamal McGlore dirty.

[Dan Le Batard]

Give me that All Star season that Jamal McGlure had. What kind of point totals was he putting up that season?

[Amin Elhassan]

13.6 points per game and 10.3 rebounds.

[Kenny]

Boy, he averaged a double double.

[Amin Elhassan]

What you're doing is wrong.

[Kenny]

The Big Cat.

[Stugotz]

You guys are all disrespectful right now. But there's no one more disrespectful in the room than Dan LeBatard. Because you just reminded me you once called demolition man Jamal McGlore.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, and I will never of action movies.

[Stugotz]

I will never forgive of action movies.

[Dan Le Batard]

Movies. Demolition man put up, you know, 14 points and 12 rebounds.

[Stugotz]

Hell it did.

[Dan Le Batard]

One season. Jamal McGlore put it on the Polette Lerd Show. Should Jamal McGlore's nickname have been the Medium Cat?

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