Local Hour: The DVN & Zaslow Fame-Off

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Local Hour: The DVN & Zaslow Fame-Off
Release Date: July 24, 2025

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1. Introduction to the Fame-Off

Timestamp: 01:27 – 02:21

The episode kicks off with Stugotz inquiring about the buzz surrounding Pablo Torre's recent accolade. He questions, “Can you guys explain to me why there was some stomping around the office here about Pablo Torre getting some other award that he's gotten or gotten to the top of some list or there's something special that Pablo Torre” (01:27).

Tony responds by clarifying, “They came out with a list of the top 100 podcasts of all time” (01:41). This revelation ignites a discussion about Pablo Torre’s inclusion in the prestigious list, highlighting the significance of his achievement in the podcasting landscape.

2. Pablo Torre’s Podcast Achievement

Timestamp: 02:21 – 05:28

The hosts delve deeper into Pablo Torre’s success, emphasizing the uniqueness of his podcast. Stugotz marvels, “There has never been a podcast like it. There can't be very many podcasts that have as much journalistic resources behind it anymore” (02:21).

Tony adds, “Don Van Natta speaks for all of us when he says, you can't tell the story of sports podcasting without mentioning the tennis podcast” (02:50), underscoring the collaborative recognition within the sports journalism community.

3. Podcast Rankings and Industry Insights

Timestamp: 05:28 – 10:02

The conversation shifts to exploring the dynamics of podcast rankings. Tony muses, “Part of my take is not on that list. Joe Rogan is not on that list” (03:25), expressing surprise at Joe Rogan’s absence despite his massive following.

Stugotz introduces the concept of a “fame-off” between Don Van Natta and Zaslow, sparking a playful debate about their standings in South Florida’s media scene. Stugotz poses a poll question: “Who’s more famous in South Florida, Don Van Nada or Zaslow?” (09:20).

4. Building Respect and Confidence in Journalism

Timestamp: 10:02 – 20:14

The hosts discuss the interplay between respect in different journalism mediums. Dan LeBatard expresses apprehension about meeting Don Van Natta, a top investigative reporter: “I just want to give off a good first impression” (08:42).

Stugotz encourages Dan, stating, “Don Van Na hasn't ever won anything that impressive. Just to pull a surprise” (10:02), highlighting the challenges faced when transitioning between different media formats.

The segment touches upon the internal dynamics of the players' union and the frustrations with leadership, emphasizing the need for effective advocacy against mismanagement and poor ownership, particularly focusing on figures like Jerry Jones.

5. Light-Hearted Tattoo Discussions

Timestamp: 16:31 – 20:21

A humorous interlude ensues as the hosts discuss tattoos and the pain associated with getting them. Tony shares his own experiences, “I have a Miami Dade tattoo right here on my trap. And that one did hurt” (17:50).

Stugotz introduces a playful contest to rank tattoos based on pain, suggesting areas like the neck, inner thigh, and kneecap: “Put it on the poll, please. At Lebatard show, neck tattoo hurt more than all the others” (17:22).

This segment provides a relatable and entertaining break from the more intense discussions, showcasing the camaraderie among the hosts.

6. Rodrigo De Paul and Soccer in South Florida

Timestamp: 15:52 – 17:31

The conversation shifts to sports, focusing on soccer star Rodrigo De Paul’s impact in South Florida. Stugotz remarks, “Rodrigo De Paul is doing to South Florida that is making it smolder in a way” (15:52), highlighting his influence and the buzz surrounding his arrival with Inter Miami.

Tony discusses the logistical challenges faced by the MLS office regarding De Paul’s registration, emphasizing the complexities of league rules and team logistics: “The MLS office had no idea how to register this player because Miami doesn't actually have space for him according to league rules” (16:49).

7. Sacha Baron Cohen’s Transformation

Timestamp: 25:05 – 32:33

A lively debate unfolds about Sacha Baron Cohen’s physical transformation and its impact on his comedic persona. Stugotz describes an internet phenomenon where a character dressed as an unassuming janitor exhibits superhuman strength, paralleling real-life strength demonstrations that bewilder powerlifters: “Everything you're seeing is real and none of it is fake” (23:27).

The hosts speculate humorously about the authenticity of Cohen’s transformation, debating whether it's enhanced by Photoshop or performance techniques: “Also ped” (28:12).

Tony criticizes the disguise as ineffective, comparing it unfavorably to known media examples: “Do you remember when Gordon Ramsay was on Undercover Boss?” (26:14).

8. South Park’s Political Commentary

Timestamp: 34:17 – 43:43

In a critical analysis, Stugotz discusses South Park’s latest episode targeting Donald Trump, reflecting on the show's bold approach to political satire: “They are going after Trump... To be able to make people laugh about the absurdity that everyone hates this clown now” (39:14).

Dan LeBatard shares a personal anecdote about watching the episode with his son, expressing shock at the explicit portrayal of Trump: “They got him with the micro penis” (39:18).

The hosts critique the speed and creativity behind South Park’s production, highlighting the show’s enduring relevance and impact in political discourse: “They just signed a $1.5 billion deal. And how did they turn the episode around so fast” (43:13).

9. Final Remarks and Transition to NFL News

Timestamp: 43:43 – End

As the episode nears its conclusion, Juju introduces a brief segment on NFL news, referencing Justin Fields and a light-hearted mix-up: “According to Ralph Vacciano, the card is now out for Justin Fields on the practice fields. He's positioned behind a tree. No sign of what's going on, but the card is out for Justin Fields” (43:31).

Stugotz humorously interjects, “Oh, poor stugats, man. Not Justin Fields Stugat” (43:43), wrapping up the episode with typical banter and camaraderie.

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Notable Quotes

• Stugotz: “There has never been a podcast like it. There can't be very many podcasts that have as much journalistic resources behind it anymore” (02:21).
• Tony: “Part of my take is not on that list. Joe Rogan is not on that list” (03:25).
• Stugotz: “Don Van Nada knows him very well, has written some of the original things about what Jerry Jones is” (10:02).
• Dan LeBatard: “I just want to give off a good first impression” (08:42).
• Stugotz: “Rodrigo De Paul is doing to South Florida that is making it smolder in a way” (15:52).
• Stugotz: “They are going after Trump... To be able to make people laugh about the absurdity that everyone hates this clown now” (39:14).

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Conclusion

In this episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz," the hosts navigate through a blend of serious journalism discussions and light-hearted banter. Key highlights include celebrating Pablo Torre’s podcast achievement, examining the dynamics between different journalism mediums, debating the impact of sports personalities in South Florida, critiquing media figures’ transformations, and analyzing South Park’s bold political satire. Interspersed with humor and personal anecdotes, the episode offers an engaging mix of insights and entertainment for listeners.

Transcript

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[Stugatz]

Can you guys explain to me why it is there was some stomping around the office here about Pablo Torre getting some other award that he's gotten or gotten to the top of some list or there's something special that Pablo Torre.

[Tony]

Has gotten time a very reputable magazine.

[Stugatz]

What are those?

[Dan LeBatard]

What they say?

[Tony]

They came out with a list of the top 100 podcasts of all time.

[Stugatz]

Wow.

[Tony]

And very impressively, Pablo Torre is on that list.

[Juju]

Come on, who do you pay off?

[Tony]

We are not on that list.

[Stugatz]

Come on.

[Tony]

I just want to go out and get that. I know it's a little awkward, but we are not the only legacy podcasts that most people would assume would be on that list that aren't on that list. Part of my take is not on that list. Joe Rogan is not on that list. And I don't know how you leave Joe Rogan off any top podcast list ever. Like, even if it's the top three podcasts ever, Joe Rogan belongs on it.

[Stugatz]

Tony, do you have the entire list? Like, is there, is there anything on that list that would we would be like really offended by? Because you're Saying, you said all time. Pablo Torrey finds out a spectacular Meadow Arc media success investment. There has never been a podcast like it. There can't be very many podcasts that have as much journalistic resources behind it anymore. Now we just turn on podcasts. He's already in the top hundred.

[Tony]

Yeah, he's already in the top hundred. The Kelsey's have found a way to crack the top hundred, I think. Hank Lockwood, the really talented producer for part of my take, speaks for all of us when he says, you can't tell the story of sports podcasting without mentioning the tennis podcast.

[Stugatz]

Who does the tennis podcast?

[Tony]

I learned about the tennis podcast via this list. I don't.

[Juju]

That's the name.

[Tony]

Yeah, it's called the tennis podcast.

[Dan LeBatard]

And what number is that one on it?

[Tony]

I don't. I don't know if they actually ranked that.

[Juju]

It's just 100 podcasts.

[Tony]

They just gave 100 that. They said, okay, we report, you decide. But these are definitively the top one.

[Juju]

Are these like episodes of these podcasts or they're podcasts in totality?

[Stugatz]

No.

[Tony]

And there's a lot of short run podcasts. Like, I just saw you scrolling through the tiles there. Dirty John was a limited run series. So there's a lot of limited run series that are on this, which I mean deservedly so. But, you know, I kind of feel like. Kind of feel like maybe we should be on there too.

[Juju]

There's a pivot, but not that pivot. Another pivot. So I didn't know there was another pivot outside of the pivot. That is the one that's.

[Stugatz]

There's a political pivot. There's not a Ryan outside of the Ryan. Did you think the Ryan Clark pivot was the political pivot? Those people are very famous. I saw their podcast the other day and all I saw them talking about. They're very smart, but all I saw them talking about is how often they're recognized in public. And it was really off putting nice white parents.

[Tony]

Real podcasts are fake.

[Stugatz]

That's a good question.

[Juju]

We should probably go through that list.

[Tony]

Top 100 podcasts of all time.

[Juju]

We can probably go through that list and do real or fake podcasts.

[Stugatz]

Well, you let. Let's do that. But you guys, you guys realize that Stugats is excellent in this because we bypassed the other day. I've been stumbling around as a man of words. I've been stumbling around for a couple of weeks trying to explain what it is that Stugatz's idea was for a podcast between Andy Roddick and Marty Fish and I called it Fish Dick. And because I couldn't remember what it was and he's like, no, fishing rod. That's a great name. That's a great name. The tennis show is all you got to name something to get in the top 100. The tennis show.

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[Stugatz]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast. Happy, happy. And I'm saying this with a giant, giant smile on my face because I really am happy, happy. Bill Belichick. Belichick's girlfriend Jordan allows him to speak at 2pm today. Day. Woo. Press availability. We need a countdown clock. We need everyone to know when it is that Bill Belichick will address the media. But before we do that, I have a problem on my hands here with a zaslo who over the last few months has developed the confidence I've never seen in him before. He's been an icon in this business in South Florida for a long time, 20 years. But his confidence is soaring these days for reasons that are unexplained.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm not feeling confident today.

[Stugatz]

Well, this is the problem. He looked at me today and it's because Don Van Nut is such an impressive journalist, as Low has been playing like he's telling everybody, I'm a judge, I'm a lawyer, I'm a journalist. What else?

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm a race war expert.

[Stugatz]

You're a race war expert? And he's like, he's, he's, he's sitting here and he's like, I'm going to have to talk To John Van Naeter today. And he's looking at me and he's nodding and he's staring at me. And he's mad, right? He's mad at me and he's losing.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's like the top investigative reporter in all of sports. This a very respected man in our industry.

[Stugatz]

Don't be intimidated. The best game. Look. Tony's not intimidated. Tony's not. So what?

[Dan LeBatard]

I just. I don't know. Do. Do I look my best?

[Tony]

You know, I see.

[Juju]

What shirt are you wearing?

[Tony]

You're doing something new with your beer.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, yeah, I have a beer now because I'm an adult.

[Stugatz]

Tony yesterday exhibited as he often does, just unrelenting confidence. So, Mike, you did not. You weren't here to see that Tony 10 years ago, walk walked up to me at sandbar and said, you know, we got next. Like, this was 10 years ago. We showed a picture of it yesterday. That's what Tony was 10 years ago, before he was a dad. I mean, you were still a teenager then, were you not?

[Juju]

I was probably my early 20s.

[Stugatz]

Yeah. And so he doesn't understand not having confidence around Don Van Nada. Don Van Nada is. I don't know. Let's. Let's think about this first.

[Dan LeBatard]

I just hope he takes me serious as, like a talk show. That's all.

[Stugatz]

Let's. Let's see. You know that traditionally, print journalists and investigative journalists don't respect radio people. Don't respect radio people. I don't think there's anything about today other than your intellect that you have to fight with. And you don't suffer from a lack of respect from Don Van Nada. You're. He's not smarter than you. He's not better than you. If you're not going to allow Cody to be better than you, why is Don Van Naata better than you? Don Van Natta can't do radio, doesn't do television. He's just a print guy. And entertainers generally look down on print guys, no matter how good they are.

[Dan LeBatard]

As reporters, I just want to give off a good first impression. Okay? Never, you know, he's never seen me. You meet someone, a respected guy for the first time. I want to give off this.

[Stugatz]

This is the first time.

[Dan LeBatard]

First time will see me. Like, I talked to him before when I've been on ESPN for sure, but he doesn't know what I look like. But now we're going to, like, meet.

[Stugatz]

I probably knows who you are as a South Floridian. Like, I'm sure he knows who you Are. You're more famous than Don Van.

[Tony]

Oh, my God.

[Stugatz]

Don't fall.

[Tony]

He said that he respects him and you're like, why should you respect him? He's a print guy. You're. You're an entertainer. Look at you. You're so already trying to drive a wedge between Zaz and dbn. Don't fall for it, Juju.

[Stugatz]

Put it on the poll. Who's more famous in South Florida? Don, Don Van Nada or Zaslow? Like I'm in the local hour here and this is all I meant. Who's more famous in South Florida, Zaslow or Don Van Nada?

[Tony]

I think it's close.

[Stugatz]

Don Van not. I mean, he's a two time heat broadcasting champion. Van Nada. Also.

[Tony]

I'm not falling for your trap. You're trying to suck me in. I'm not doing it. Stop doing this. Stop stir. Unnecessary.

[Stugatz]

Jonathan Zaslow. I just want to be respected two time champion broadcaster. And Don Van Na hasn't ever won anything that impressive. Just to pull a surprise.

[Tony]

Oh my gosh. All right. I'm logging the show.

[Stugatz]

Just to pullit. Surprise.

[Tony]

I'm logging the show. What?

[Stugatz]

Put it on the poll at ler show. What's more impressive, winning a r Pulitzer prize or winning two championships?

[Tony]

Okay, log in the show. First segment. Five minutes on fame off between Don Van.

[Stugatz]

Put it in the log. That's fine. Let's do a fame off. That's good. So this is my point. He's going to join us in 35 minutes to talk about Pablo Torre having a top 100 of all time podcast kicking the Pulitzer prize winner's ass on that union story. Because now Van Naj is just chasing him. He's just chasing. He's grifting off of Pablo Torre the way that Pablo Torre grifted off of Jordan.

[Tony]

Speaking of pivot. I'm still logging the show. Dan turns his attention to driving a wedge between Pablo and Don Van Naada.

[Stugatz]

Now, I don't think you need to concentrate on that part. I think you need to concentrate on what it is that we're doing around here today, which is we're talking first to Don Van Nada. But later in the show, I'd argue we've got what for our show is one of the most exciting people that we could get in sports to do much of anything. If I made a short list of who would you want on our show? This guy fits on our show. Chris Cody was just saying Elle Duncan. That's a big, strong introduction for her. Bo Ban is going to Join us. And so we can talk John Wick and Adam Sandler and Happy Gilmore, too, with him. But the serious story that we're going to do with Don, he's very busy because America's most popular sport has a whole bunch of employees who are really mad because they're learning by reading things and listening to things with Pablo and Don about how mismanaged some of their stuff has been. When I want to take you guys back a little bit, okay? Because you saw what a clown Jerry Jones made of himself the other day. And I want you to examine for a second, just examine how many other owners felt the need to speak when training camp began throughout football. And I want you to ask yourself, not me, ask yourself, how many owners can you name? Because when Zaslow asked, do you think Jerry Jones does all of this on purpose? And the answer is yes. Jerry Jones just wants to be in front of everybody so that they know that he's running things. And that's all it is that Jerry Jones wants. Don Van Natta knows him very well, has written some of the original things about what Jerry Jones is. So we'll talk to him about that. But the story that. That Dominique Foxworth really just blew me away with the first time he told it, he's like, I sat across from Jerry Jones, we started to negotiate. And for the first time in my life, I realized, oh, my God, I've been giving him too much credit because he's just wealthy. And I thought he was smarter than me. He's not smarter than me. He's not smarter than me. Like, I'm negotiating again. And these owners are not smarter than some of these people that they can abuse. Because it's always the Morris Smith running the union. Because it's always people who run this stuff get together at the top of the cabal and they make their own deals so that the guy who's running the players union can go to the strip Club on a $700 tab on players bodies. And I'm telling you, the players are super pissed off. You're not going to hear about it. Because that's not the way of that culture to be telling you there's some guys are doing it. But to tell you from the inside, holy shit. Do you have any idea how mad I am that I'm reading Don Van Naj and Pablo and they know more about where my money's going than I do. They know about where my union protections are more than I do. I want to call Pablo and Don and tell them more because I Need leadership in here that can actually help us fight a Jerry Jones who's not smarter than us, but has gone from owning a team that he paid $150 million for to owning a team that doesn't win that's now worth more than the Lakers.

[Dan LeBatard]

There's so many guys, though, in the union membership. I mean, you got 53 guys per team. How. How much of membership do you think is actually up to speed with anything that's going on? Can't be a lot, right?

[Tony]

I like Kevin Clark's take on what's going on with Jerry Jones. He was on First Take and he said, quote, when I look at Jerry Jones, I think of one thing. If the football gods came down and said, jerry, you get to win the next three Super Bowls. But the catch is you can't do a press conference. He looks at the football gods and says, no deal.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think it's true.

[Stugatz]

Wouldn't most people agree with that? Do you think if I ask most people who know football, hey, Jerry Jones, what would he prefer to do? Win a football game or win a press conference? Like if you told him he can only do one for the rest of.

[Dan LeBatard]

Your life, I think he says, why can't I have both? I think I want it all.

[Stugatz]

I understand that that's what he would say, but I'm not offering him that choice. I'm saying you have to pick. He has all.

[Tony]

It usually works that way, though, for billionaires. They don't really ever consider that there's an option that they don't get what they want.

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[Chris Cody]

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[Stugatz]

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[Tony]

This is the Dan Levatar show with.

[Stugatz]

The St. Well, I'm. I'm glad that you mentioned all of that, because the fi. There are a number of things I want to talk about today, including what it is that Rodrigo De Paul is doing to South Florida that is making it smolder in a way that Rose in the other room is talking about soccer in a way it seems like we have not talked about. Even Messi around here, because this heartthrob has come into town, and everyone seems to love everything this human being's about.

[Tony]

So there. There is this player, Rodrigo DePaul, a national team player, one of Messi's teammates on the national team for Argentina, coming over from Atletico Madrid. And this is. Look, the headline is that this guy's hot as. Right? This guy's beautiful. He's got the tattoo on the neck. It's a sword. He's got the long blonde hair, some Beckham vibes. Right.

[Dan LeBatard]

Tattoo on the neck must hurt, man.

[Tony]

Yeah, but it works with soccer players. I think he's got pearl earring here. The guy gives off sex appeal, no doubt. There's a lot of fun stuff circling around Inter Miami and the assumption that they just call their own shots in mls. This is one of them. I was on this beat for a little bit, and Tom Bogert did some great reporting. The MLS office had no idea how to register this player because Miami doesn't actually have space for him according to league rules.

[Dan LeBatard]

So why did they get to do it?

[Tony]

That's right.

[Stugatz]

Put it on the poll, please. At LeBatard show, neck tattoo hurt more than all the others.

[Dan LeBatard]

Inner thigh, chest.

[Tony]

I've got a fair amount of tattoos. I will say nothing hurt me more than the one on the knee.

[Juju]

It's bone, right? When you're.

[Tony]

Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot of shading on it. That one, by far, was, like, twice as painful as any of the other tattoos that I have. But.

[Stugatz]

But you don't have a neck tattoo, and Zaslow is alleged.

[Tony]

I have one. I will say the one that I have. I have a Miami Dade tattoo right here on my trap.

[Stugatz]

Trap.

[Tony]

And that's. And that's kind of close to it. And that one did. That one did hurt. There's a fair amount of shading.

[Dan LeBatard]

What about the skull? You remember Bam Bam Bigelow.

[Tony]

Bam Bam Bigelow.

[Dan LeBatard]

Tattoos all over his head.

[Stugatz]

That would be bad. So let's rank them. Let's see where it is here. And let's not. So nobody has elbow tattoos, right? There's no such thing.

[Tony]

No, I mean. Oh, there's such thing. The knee is the elbow of the lower body.

[Stugatz]

All right, so what. Let's see. So elbow. All right, what are the. Give me five. You got knee. If we were doing a top five, what you imagine people would vote for on this chest? Tattoos that would hurt the most. Text juju.

[Tony]

Text juju. Juju's got tattoos. I think he certainly got a tattoo on his neck. Right.

[Stugatz]

Okay. Cause Zaslo reacted as if the neck would be bad, and I would think bone and skull would be worse. I just would imagine that bone and skull. Zazzle doesn't seem like an authority on these issues.

[Dan LeBatard]

How do you know I'm not all tatted up? You don't know.

[Stugatz]

I don't know. But I can make certain assumptions. I feel.

[Dan LeBatard]

What about the way I look would tell you that I'm not tatted up?

[Stugatz]

Well, I don't see any. There's that, but I don't see any on Mike right now. As I look on him, and he. He just had. Okay, there they are. Oh, that's my brother's tattoo that has the misspelling.

[Tony]

Yes, that's right. Thank you for that. I proofread it, and I was like, yeah, that's him.

[Stugatz]

That's a beautiful memory, though.

[Tony]

Yeah. I mean, I wish it wasn't misspelled. I could easily fix it too, but.

[Stugatz]

That'S the last thing my brother did. Yeah. Do you know that I could literally, literally solve all your debt? It would just cost you your right arm.

[Tony]

I've thought about it.

[Stugatz]

That you have the. That is the most valuable thing that you. You have the last work of my brother. It's the last thing that he did in the hospital, and he was drugged up and he was dying, and it has a misspelling in. And it has. And it is on your arm. And you honor him by not fixing it. Cuz in his work, like in Basquiats, when my brother would misspell things, he'd just cross it out and keep moving. I believe we should do that as a stunt.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

To keep up with barstool. To keep up with.

[Tony]

Let's do it at a Flanagans or something.

[Stugatz]

Cut off Mike. Mike cuts off half of his right arm, and we give it to Ron McGill's endowment.

[Tony]

We can Just skin it too. Skin it.

[Juju]

That's better. Like a filet.

[Tony]

So I can. Because I am right handed. If I wasn't, then we could have a different conversation.

[Stugatz]

How valuable do you imagine. How valuable do you imagine owe me seven grand? That my brother's last work with a misspelling in it. With a misspelling seven grand. Are you crazy?

[Tony]

Yeah, seven grand.

[Stugatz]

No, much more than that on a human arm.

[Tony]

Yeah. And I will give your brother credit. Six grand of that is the art. The other grand is the fact that it's printed on human skin.

[Juju]

Juju has weighed in.

[Stugatz]

He's nominated two places. The forehead slash hairline area and the kneecap.

[Tony]

Yeah. All right, good. I'm glad I'm not alone. And juju has the experience there too. That kneecap had me seeing stars a little bit.

[Stugatz]

There was a suggestion of the lip as well from some of the folks.

[Tony]

All right, so put.

[Stugatz]

So do this.

[Tony]

Which one?

[Stugatz]

Let's just ask the Internet here. Make it lip, elbow, skull, neck, kneecap. And make it those five and see how the voting comes in.

[Tony]

Yeah, I do think the neck is. The neck is probably pretty painful because the one that I have on my trap, which is close enough to that area, that's probably the second one.

[Dan LeBatard]

You like telling everyone you got one on your trap.

[Tony]

I do.

[Dan LeBatard]

I got so many times you mentioned.

[Tony]

I got so many. I got my chest every. I got. I got like close to 20 zazlow.

[Stugatz]

Is what you're reacting to there that calling it your trap seems like what, like weightlifter's vanity or what? Or like what, Trapezius?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, like I don't have traps. I don't know if you could tell I don't have traps.

[Stugatz]

Soda body.

[Dan LeBatard]

And it feels like you want everybody to know you have traps.

[Tony]

I don't think I need to let anyone know that I have traps.

[Stugatz]

I mean, Mike is a pretty substantive ego. And it reminds me of something else here where you find like the most of male machismo. Okay. And in some weightlifting. I don't know if you guys know the person I discovered yesterday, but what a delight to discover this person yesterday. Now, you may know it by description, but I asked everybody here if they knew who Anatoly was. I don't even know if I'm pronouncing that correctly because I discovered this person. Just. I'm sorry. Anatoly. Anatoly. And he's very famous, but he's Internet famous and he's not famous by name. And the. I thought I was coming in here Today to tell a whole bunch of people about a person that they would all tell me, yeah, Dan, you're 40 years late to this. This guy has had a billion followers forever because what he's doing on the Internet is unlike anything you've ever seen on the Internet when it comes to sketch comedy where people aren't acting, where you can question whether the people are acting, but they're not acting. And the reason they're not acting is because a human being who is not very impressive even when not in costume, somebody who looks physically small and is certainly fit, but is small and isn't very muscular, keeps going into gyms where there are these giant and flurry inflated steroid heads, people who are using all sorts of horse anabolics to lift 500 pounds. And I have never seen a human being of this size and stature who dressed as a janitor or an old man, goes in and shows these bodybuilders that he can do what they do with one arm like that. He's a power lifter that's so strong that they are clearly baffled because what he's doing is superhuman. He's accusing them of having fake weights. And then when he goes over them, he lifts easily. Things that they are really struggling to lift. Because he is stronger than any human being I've seen at that size. Because he's a professional deadlifter and he's a champion deadlifter and he's just physically connected. But he's walking into these rooms where he is two and three times smaller than people who are all inflated on male ego.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's real. What I'm seeing there.

[Stugatz]

Everything you're seeing is real and none of it is fake, including the reactions of the people. This person's very famous on the Internet. Like, I did not. I just got to him yesterday and I could not stop. I could not stop watching these videos and wanted to tell people, somebody get this guy for me. I want to talk to him. Because what he is doing is these.

[Dan LeBatard]

People are stunned watching.

[Stugatz]

They have to be stunned. Because I've never seen somebody. If you take the costume off him, I've never seen somebody who has this much strength. So to see it in a body that's an old man or. And this is the. This is the funniest thing he does. He's a janitor, right? And so because he's walking around with a mop, they all underestimate him. He's in sandals and socks, okay? Like, he's walking around the gym, he's apologizing to Everybody and he's holding a mop. And it becomes clear as part of what it is that he's laying out that the reason that they think he this strong is because when they go to grab the mop from him, it's a million pounds. Like they go to grab it and none of them can move it because it sticks to the floor. And they think there's a magnet there. So then they think, oh, the reason this guy is this strong, this is what they tell their friends. Because no, the friends aren't going to believe what they just saw. They go home and they tell their friends, hey, this tiny dude just deadlifted 200 more pounds than me. And the way he got that strong is his mop's a million pounds. He's a janitor and his mop is a million pounds. We've got to start training with million pound mops so that we can win at the Olympics because we're not getting strong enough. I have never in my life seen a human being of that size have a fraction of the strength that that man has.

[Dan LeBatard]

So like he's buttering them up by claiming that the weights are fake, that they're plastic, that they're not metal.

[Stugatz]

Not buttering them up. What he's going to. I can't imagine how much good footage this has this guy has of power lifters trying to kick his ass because of how rude he is. He's interrupting their workouts, saying he's sorry, being clueless. But what he's giving off the entire time is weakness, meekness, right? The entire time. The only reason he's welcomed in is because they think he's harmless.

[Juju]

And I think that's why they're not kicking his ass. Right? Because of the fact that I did this. Wait, where you said it was a PR personal record. I just did it eight times and I showed you I could lift it up with one hand. That's where the respect comes in for these guys, where you're like, okay, dude, what's up? Adapt.

[Stugatz]

You up?

[Juju]

Let's go.

[Stugatz]

Well, that's what. What's funny to see each time is the story arc of clearly underestimating somebody who visually looks like you should underestimate him. Walking into a world of what looks like on the outside, strong male ego, but it's pretty fragile. Cuz as soon as he shows you that he's stronger than you, all of a sudden you have all sorts of respect for this dude that you didn't want bothering you five minutes ago.

[Tony]

Damn shame on anyone that falls for this costume, though, this is a terrible disguise.

[Juju]

Bad beard, too.

[Tony]

I mean, he looks like one of the Beastie Boys in the Ninet. I mean, this is the second worst disguise that I've seen on television outside of. Do you remember when Gordon Ramsay was on Undercover Boss? Do we have an image of Gordon Ramsay on Undercover Boss? Because that wasn't fooling any.

[Dan LeBatard]

What? That's a garbage pail, kid. That's not Gordon Ramsay.

[Stugatz]

Wait a minute. Who is that?

[Juju]

Just, like a Nazi.

[Stugatz]

That looks like Jason from the Friday movies. Like, what is that?

[Tony]

What is Undercover Boss? No, but, yeah, he went undercover. I don't know. I don't know if that was Gordon Rand, but it was an episode of Undercover Boss where a guy was.

[Stugatz]

Mike. This. This person. Okay. The reason that this person. You can say that the costume stinks, but the reason this whole thing works is because all of those weightlifters are clearly very surprised. Like, they don't. That's not acting. The thing that he's doing with the weights, he's been doing it for a long time. So I imagine he's a little bit like Ali G at this point. He can't do it everywhere. People know who he is.

[Tony]

Did you watch it? Did you see Sacha Baron Cohen's new body? He's on the COVID of Muscle and Fitness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they're giving credit.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's grab Marvel now. That's why.

[Tony]

Yeah, yeah. That's what. Oh, his Mephisto transformation. Let me tell you, please. That divorce got finalized last week. That's what that is. Petey's wow.

[Stugatz]

Two. Wait a minute. If you. Wait a minute. If you guys are going to do that, that. That arrogantly.

[Tony]

I don't think it's pds.

[Juju]

I.

[Tony]

Do you think it's pds? I mean, he doesn't look that good.

[Stugatz]

Hold on, hold on.

[Juju]

Hold on a second.

[Stugatz]

Here is something we like to call reckless speculation.

[Juju]

Thank you. So if we take a look on the screen right now. Sacheveren Cohen, notably thin soda drinkers.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't like it. I don't like what I see there.

[Juju]

All of a sudden now, it's like, oh, I'm ripped. I'm 1% body fat. I got the V cup. I'm vascular. Guys, this is classic Hollywood ped use.

[Tony]

No, this is classic Photoshop. Look at the lighting. Look at the oil them up. He's vascular because he's holding two free weights in his hands, all touched up. And let me tell you something. We know his hair color is not that. That's true.

[Juju]

Also ped.

[Tony]

Right. So if he's. I guess what you're saying is if he's willing to go that far on the hair, then he's gonna go that.

[Juju]

Far in the body.

[Tony]

I don't think. I don't think that's ped. That's a very natural looking body.

[Juju]

You don't think that's. That's test.

[Tony]

No, no.

[Juju]

You don't think. How old is he? 50 something?

[Stugatz]

I actually, I would argue that that is him getting fit and healthy, but that was very Jeff Teague of you. Tony, can I get that Jeff Teague sound?

[Dan LeBatard]

Jeff Teague.

[Stugatz]

Oh, you're. Yeah, can I get the Jeff Teague sound? Like it's reckless, 50 years old, Dan? I did this to LeBron as well, though, so I don't know how much I can question Jeff Teague here. And I will say this because I don't. I don't know anything. And I have never actually heard anyone around the Miami Heat say that he was using steroids and growth hormone, even though we made all the jokes when he would leave for a couple of weeks or need some time that he was, you know, going to refill the fuel tank. But. But if LeBron James is doing something at the top of basketball still, at an age that is older than any player ever and is the oldest player in the league, if he's able to do something like that, he could be unprecedented. And if you had to bet and be right about whether or not someone got to unprecedented and one because they cheated, they didn't cheat and were just better than all of the other cheaters, including time. Or LeBron James did it naturally, spending.

[Dan LeBatard]

Millions of dollars on his body every year.

[Stugatz]

Yeah, but you gotta bet and be right. You gotta bet and be right. So I understand where all those Questions are on LeBron James. I don't believe that he ages that naturally. But LeBron James body has a thickness and a size that is natural for what it is that he's doing. And we've seen it largely be the same his entire life as opposed to like, like Barry Bonds or Dwayne the Rock Johnson even, whose body has changed a lot at 50. But Sacha Baron Cohen looks like he's just gotten all of the inflation out of his body that whatever his soda drinking and bad habits were, that he's just totally leaned out here with a good deal of musculature, but he's also like 6% body fat.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't like the way Sasha Baron Cohen looks there because you're not funny anymore if that's what you look like. That's not a funny person. That's not. That's not a guy who could be Borat. That guy's not funny. I don't like it.

[Stugatz]

Well, he's a dramatic actor now.

[Dan LeBatard]

Ok, well, he's not funny.

[Stugatz]

The last things he, I mean he hasn't done has any. Been doing more drama than comedy recently. He got scarred by Hollywood, man. Like he had huge success. They promised him three movies and then after the first one failed, they broke their promise because that's what those people do in Hollywood.

[Juju]

Who's the funniest ripped guy?

[Stugatz]

Carrot Top.

[Tony]

Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle has not lost his funny because he got jacked.

[Stugatz]

True. Well, but he's gone, look, we're gonna do this. We're gonna do.

[Tony]

And he did not lose his funny. And Joe Rogan got more popular after.

[Stugatz]

He's not like this, Jack. I'm just. Look, we're gonna do this now. Dave Chappelle, I don't know where he is now in his body.

[Tony]

What are we doing now? Answering your question. Yes, yes, we are doing this now. We are answering your question. Dan. There are plenty of funny jacked comedians. In fact, you'd be shocked.

[Stugatz]

It was. That wasn't my question.

[Tony]

This is what we're doing now, answering questions on the show.

[Stugatz]

Dave Chappelle though has gone from. He's had different body types and there was a time when he was down here in Miami a lot where he was like super swole. He is not that now. I don't know if he is jacked now. Like, I don't know if he has a body that he is.

[Tony]

He's still like meatball. He just wears jackets in his stand up specials. But he's still, he's still a big guy.

[Stugatz]

It's a jacked off. So what's the answer? Carrot Top was super jacked for a while. Is your answer. Chappelle. That's the funniest muscular guy there's been. And who lost their funny? There have been comedians, there have been. Joe Piscopo lost his funny when he went from. Well, no, wait a minute.

[Tony]

He was kind of in shape even in snl.

[Stugatz]

Yeah, but he, he got, he got super jacked. Who are the other ones? There are people who have been accused of getting less funny as they've lost weight.

[Tony]

I mean, jacked and in good shape is different things. Like I don't think Sacha Baron Cohen is jacked. I think he's in good shape. Eddie Murphy's always been in good shape. There is one guy that can't afford to get jacked and can't afford to have a body transformation. And Shane Gillis. Yeah, that like as his whole thing.

[Stugatz]

That would be a bad look. But so was Burke.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, Bert Kreischer too.

[Juju]

And Burke got a little fit.

[Tony]

But he's back.

[Juju]

He got a little fit.

[Stugatz]

Kevin James did an MMA movie.

[Tony]

Yeah. And he's in like. Yeah. Great shape for him, I guess.

[Stugatz]

Joe Rogan is a stand up comedian. He's in good shape.

[Tony]

Oh, Steve Martin also.

[Stugatz]

Great shape for him is so insulting.

[Tony]

Weird nips. And that's coming from me.

[Stugatz]

Put it on the poll. Does Joe Rogan have weird nipples at Lebatard show? Let me see this things.

[Tony]

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[Stugatz]

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[Tony]

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[Stugatz]

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[Tony]

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[Stugatz]

Subject to change.

[Chris Cody]

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[Stugatz]

Don LeBatard.

[Dan LeBatard]

If Daniel Day Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself.

[Stugatz]

Oh, come on.

[Tony]

Yeah, I would be aggressive. Description.

[Stugatz]

I mean, what is it? What is that?

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm just saying.

[Stugatz]

Saying what?

[Tony]

That's me. I see that photo of Daniel Day Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming. Lincoln. And you know what I do amin stugats. I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do.

[Stugatz]

Lincoln, who you outed the other day.

[Tony]

Don't make this a rejoin.

[Stugatz]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. I wanted to talk. It took me too long to get here. My apologies for taking so long to get here. South Park.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh my God.

[Stugatz]

South park had a much anticipated episode last night. And you know, if you've been listening to this show for a while and bored by my dronings, that I really care about some. Some of the things that are happening at the top of corporate media that swallow Stephen Colbert and that make us have conversations where you've got Jon Stewart saying on television, if you have the Colbert show and you have south park and you have the Daily show, doesn't that represent the grand majority of the $8 billion that we're talking about in the Skydance FCC Paramount merger? If you free those three creators to do whatever they want? South park, the Daily show and Stephen Colbert. I can't believe that I missed that. We're at the gates of the revolution here where the funny gestures on television are compromised and bought and have to work under corporate media. But what south park gangsters did as a entity last night that prides itself on making fun of how soft Seth MacFarlane's family guy is and how weak the Simpsons are, even though they're the standard in this business because it doesn't actually stand for anything. Simpsons have made a ton of money. Money. Their people are brilliant, but as soon as the APU stuff happened, they ran for the hills. The south park guys don't respect that. The south park guys want to want to do this with attitude for them to produce that episode after securing the deal for $1.5 billion of FU money to watch. What these three entities are going to do if they don't make Josh Johnson wear a jacket because they're still doing grandpa Jon Stewart's TV show and let Josh Johnson do the next wave of whatever this is. These three entities are going after Trump. My God, being to laugh about Trump is so much more effective than sermonizing about hating him. To be able to make people laugh about the absurdity that everyone hates this clown now. Everyone hates this felonious orange turd. Like where? Where? Like you've got clearly the COVID up yesterday. That's the Wall Street Journal. They can't print that unless it's true. Do you know what would come down on them? Like they've got that story locked. Rupert Murdoch has information and he is now looking to bury this man. Go ahead, sue him all you want. Go ahead and fight with Murdoch because he's got late night television that ain't going anywhere. His late night television can work forever. His goes right. He's got money forever. Rupert Murdoch has the goods on Trump and he printed some of them yesterday. Do you know how hard that is to do? Do you know how hard it is to go straight from there to Obama treason. South park gets to make fun of that. Jon Stewart gets to make fun of that. And Colbert's about to be able to do it on their television before they sell him. Holy shit, are we gonna have Fun the next 10 months watching what, produce what, what south park and everyone else produces.

[Tony]

Squeezing them. There's gonna be good art that that comes from. This is gonna be audacious. It's gonna be offensive. I'll buck up against the fact that no one likes this guy. I think he still has an annoyingly fair amount of supporters that will go through anything with them.

[Stugatz]

On this issue, I mean, I mean, on this issue, when you've got FBI assistant directors having a crisis of conscience, this issue on pedophilia, we're pretty much all united there. All right. We're pretty much all united on don't lie to us about pedophilia.

[Tony]

Largely, I agree.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm on the right side there.

[Tony]

Yeah. Largely on the left side.

[Dan LeBatard]

The right side of the issue.

[Stugatz]

On the left side. Well, it's all now confused.

[Tony]

I don't think there are sides to this one. At least I didn't think so, but.

[Stugatz]

Yeah, it'd be the first one if there aren't over. Like there's been sides to everything the last 10 years.

[Tony]

Right. But this is like, this is. He rode this wave to getting reelected in the greatest political comeback of all time, and he didn't shy away from it all that much. And certainly the cronies around him built audiences like Charlie Kirk, his lieutenant over at the FBI. These are all people that pounded the table. His own son, his own vice president. They're all people that said, we gotta hold these people accountable. Why aren't they releasing the Epstein files? And I mean, look, I don't know if you saw the developments over night. The attorney for the state for the Epstein survivors said that he does indeed have the letter and he's going to turn it over to authorities. You remember the letter? The letter that was fake, that didn't exist. So, like, right then and there, he didn't. This is where Donald Trump's proclivity to say hoaxes and fake all the time actually does come back to bite him. This one's very fresh. Wait, you've lost all credibility now? I know. Every time I think he's lost credibility, he always wiggles out of it. I do kind of feel like he's kind of caught dead to rights on the letter. At least if the letter is real, when he was telling us it's fake.

[Stugatz]

Of course I overstate it when I say that everyone doesn't like this guy, but it's open season on making fun of him. And when south park unloads the cannons, it is something to behold.

[Dan LeBatard]

I couldn't believe what I was Watching last night, I really couldn't.

[Tony]

We.

[Dan LeBatard]

My kids were a very open household, all right? And they love South Park. They've been watching south park since they were little. The Simpsons. My older son has seen every episode of the Simpsons, all right, since he was little. Like, we, we love that. And now I don't regularly watch it. So last night I didn't know what I was about to walk into with South Park.

[Stugatz]

I didn't even.

[Dan LeBatard]

I knew it was the season premiere, but I didn't know what I was about to walk into. And my younger son, my 13 year old, he's sitting on the couch with me and it's like a quarter to 10 and we know that south park has come up. He's like, hey, do you want to watch South Park? I go, yes, I do. And so we put on south park and we're watching it together. And I just, I couldn't believe it because. So it's the middle of the episode, right? And they go to the Oval Office and Trump is turned facing the window so you can only see his hair is there behind the chair. And then he swivels the chair rounds like, whoa, they are actually using his face. And so, so from that point on, it was. I can't believe that. Cuz we, we've seen them do this with, you know, he's in bed with Satan there and he's, he's got the schmeckle sticking out. And we, we've seen this with. They do this to Saddam Hussein and they do this to Kim Jong Un. You know, it's like, I don't know, man. I don't remember anyone doing this. The President of the United States. All right, that's our President. It was crazy what we were watching and, and they got him with the micro penis. And my son and I, we are howling throughout the show. I couldn't believe what we were watching. It was crazy. And then I'm just thinking, like, how does he, how does Trump find out about it? Like, is it, is it his, you know, someone, you know, part of his, you know, communications department who brings it to us. Hey, so this happened last night. And are they showing Trump pictures of him in bed with Satan where he's wanting to have sex with Satan, you know, and Satan's playing very hard to get. Satan's got feelings, you know, like, does someone show.

[Tony]

I used to date someone just like you, Right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Does someone show him that? Or does he actually then say, I want to watch the episode, you know, before I, I'm fascinated by how the information comes to him, and there's, like.

[Tony]

A non zero chance that he has no idea. Comedy Central is owned by Paramount.

[Stugatz]

This is going to be a time of great creativity and pain. The phrase you used and I don't know, the schmeckle.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, schmeckle.

[Stugatz]

Well, what is it? But what is it?

[Dan LeBatard]

It's like Yiddish for penis.

[Stugatz]

Okay. Yeah, that's right.

[Tony]

Can't confirm.

[Stugatz]

Okay. Just. I'd never heard that before. How does one spell schmeckle?

[Dan LeBatard]

Probably S, C, H, M, E, K, E, L. He's exactly right.

[Stugatz]

Is it a baby? So is it a baby's penis? What is a schmeck? What is a schmeckle?

[Dan LeBatard]

Schmeckle.

[Tony]

Okay, so I need to further explore, say, things like baby penis on the air. Like, I'm caught up.

[Stugatz]

I was gonna try and figure out a joke there that wove it all together, and then I just sort of backed away from all of the pedophilia and all of the stuff.

[Tony]

There we go. You know, say that. So this is a change of pace for south park. They use Mr. Garrison as an avatar for Donald Trump in the first term. No, no.

[Dan LeBatard]

You want to rally?

[Tony]

I don't think that's Mr. Garrison. God damn it. That's the one. But that was a very good impression, though. But they kind of shied away. Like, everyone knew they were talking about Trump, but they shied away. And they used this gay character to be Donald Trump, and they thought that that would needle him. Now they're just gonna use his face, which is usually reserved for tyrants.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, right. We were howling, the two of us, because, again, I didn't know what I was walking into. I didn't realize that was the episode they were doing. And then it's, whoa. They got this whole thing going on with Paramount, which, by the way, they just signed a $1.5 billion deal. And how did they turn the episode around so fast that it, like, you know.

[Tony]

Oh, have you seen the special? South park, for their, I think, 25th anniversary, did a documentary on how these episodes come together. Comes together in a matter of days, and it's like everybody's hair is on fire. But that's literally dry the tape to load it into a satellite for them to make it to air.

[Juju]

Dan. Breaking NFL News. According to Ralph Vacciano, the card is now out for Justin Fields on the practice fields. He's positioned behind a tree. No sign of what's going on, but the card is out for Justin Fields.

[Stugatz]

Oh, poor stugats, man. Not Justin Fields Stugat.