Local Hour: The Haunting Marino Chant

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Local Hour – The Haunting Marino Chant
Date: November 17, 2025

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Episode Overview

Broadcasting from Miami’s Elser Hotel, the crew digs into a classic “Local Hour” blend: heated Dolphins debate, Miami Hurricanes playoff anxiety, and plenty of pop-sports absurdity. Anchored by Dan Le Batard and Stugotz, with contributions from Zaslo, Chris, Greg Cody, and Bobby, the episode features dissecting the Dolphins’ controversial 4th-down decision, the haunting echoes of Dan Marino’s overseas chant, and passionate gripes about college football’s playoff politics—all with the show’s signature blend of irreverence and sports fanaticism.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dolphins’ Controversial 4th Down Decision ([01:26]–[13:00])

• Background: The Dolphins, tied late in regulation, chose to go for a TD on 4th and goal (a “long two”) rather than kick a field goal. Debate rages: Was it bold, reckless, or mathematically sound?
• Greg Cody’s Take:
  • Blasts the call as “lame brain” and a “bad decision that backfired”:

    “They saved McDaniel from embarrassment. He made a bad decision that backfired and got immensely lucky for it.” – Greg Cody ([04:32])

  • Argues taking the 3-point lead is the logical move, especially given the defense’s improvement.
• Zaslo’s Perspective:
  • Says two years ago, fans would have celebrated McDaniel’s aggression, but now expectations are different.

    “Two and three years ago, if Mike McDaniel is doing that, we are all like, yes, he's different. Super aggressive team.” – Zaslo ([03:10])

  • Emphasizes that today’s kickers make field goals less meaningful.

    “It's just under two minutes left, which is an eternity now in today's NFL. And the Dolphins go up three... you're 30 yards away from tying.” – Zaslo ([08:15])

• Analytics vs. Gut:
  • Dan frames it: Only 2 coaches since 2000 have made McDaniel’s call; analytics suggest a small win probability edge by going for the TD.

    “The analytics say you get a 3.5% better chance to win... But the mathematics say that.” – Dan Le Batard ([06:16])

  • Greg Cody dismisses analytics for “late in a tight game;” Stugotz and Zaslo challenge this with the shift in NFL coaching philosophy.

Notable Quote:

“Why don't you care what the analytics say and what the percentages say? Because they say you're wrong.” – Stugotz ([03:55])

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2. Tua Tagovailoa Debate and The Marino (Im)Mobility Comparison ([14:25]–[16:59]; [20:14]–[22:32])

• Zaslo on Tua’s Mobility:
  • Declares Tua “less mobile than Dan Marino in a boot,” intensifying Dolphins fan skepticism.

    “I've never seen a more immobile quarterback. And my entire childhood was Dan Marino... Marino is more mobile than Tua was.” – Zaslo ([15:15])

• Stugotz’s Defense:
  • Acknowledges Tua could move through progressions more fluidly at full health but says now, Waddle is often the only option.
• Mike McDaniel Offense Critique:
  • Bobby: “What if we just take away the first read... Oh, wait a second. Tua can't scan the field.” ([16:15])
• Dan Marino’s Awkward Overseas Moment:
  • The crew riffs on Marino’s ungainly attempt to lead a “Let’s Go Dolphins” chant in Madrid; they describe it as “haunting” and “anxiety-inducing.”

    “It feels a bit death metal.” – Stugotz ([22:26]) “It gives me a little bit of anxiety hearing him do that, because that's not the way that it's supposed to go.” – Dan Le Batard ([22:30])

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3. Miami Hurricanes Playoff Narrative, Notre Dame, and CFP Politics ([33:01]–[43:41])

• Dan’s Rant on Notre Dame’s “Charmed” Playoff Path:
  • Outraged at the idea that Miami, with comparable record and a head-to-head win, is being omitted from playoff consideration while Notre Dame is considered a shoo-in.

    “Why am I living and dying watching Clemson... while Notre Dame just gets to beat up on Navy and Pitt... If Notre Dame is in the playoffs, Miami better be in the playoffs, too. Ahead of Notre Dame, too.” – Dan Le Batard ([34:08])

• Ranking Nitpicks:
  • Dan blasts Miami being behind Utah and Vanderbilt, both of whom he sees as less deserving.
• Stugotz on College Football Parity:
  • Highlights the chaos of the season and the “batshit insane” landscape that could help Miami sneak in.
• Greg Cody’s Reminder:
  • Miami’s playoff troubles are partially self-inflicted:

    “Let's not lose track of the fact that UM did this to itself... They got spanked.” – Greg Cody ([39:53])

• Group Cynicism:
  • Consensus that Miami is ignored nationally, and that Alabama, Notre Dame, and other teams get the benefit of “brand bias.”

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4. Marino Chant “Haunting,” South Florida Sports Quirkiness, and Show Hijinks ([22:32]–[29:36])

• Chant Analysis:
  • The crew mocks the awkwardness of Marino’s Madrid chant, comparing it to horror movie soundtracks and Halloween doorbells.

    “Let's conjure other situations...You’ve come down the stairs at midnight because you’ve heard a bump... Now I’ve got a crazy stranger... Haunting is the exact way to describe it.” – Stugotz ([28:34])

• South Florida Legends in Public:
  • Marino’s discomfort with public speaking and Barkov’s similarly odd celebration attempts are riffed for minutes, blending sports reverence and comedic irreverence.
  • Stugotz: “As long as Dan Marino lasted on that CBS pregame show because he was always notoriously bad talking in front of people, hated doing it and was boring on purpose.” ([24:19])

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5. Absurdity, Old-Man Dolphins Logos, and Classic Show Humor ([44:54]–[46:41])

• **Stugotz unveils his “Dolphins logo replaced by an old man’s ass” art project, which the crew gleefully roasts.

  “The Miami Dolphins should name their team the Miami Ass and change their logo to an ass. Not a nice ass like an old man's ass.” – Stugotz ([45:07])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Context | |-----------|-------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:54 | Greg Cody | “It was a lame brain decision by him…They saved McDaniel from embarrassment. He made a bad decision…” | | 03:10 | Zaslo | “Two and three years ago…we are all like, yes, he's different. Super aggressive team…” | | 04:32 | Chris | “If Dan Campbell does it, you're like, yep, good call.” | | 06:16 | Dan Le Batard | “Only two since 2000 have ever done what McDaniel did… you get a 3.5 better percentage chance…” | | 15:18 | Zaslo | “I've never seen a more immobile quarterback. And my entire childhood was Dan Marino…” | | 22:26 | Stugotz | “It feels a bit death metal.” (on Marino’s chant) | | 34:08 | Dan Le Batard | "Why am I living and dying watching Clemson run fullback dives... if Notre Dame is in the playoffs, Miami better be in the playoffs, too." | | 45:07 | Stugotz | "The Miami Dolphins should name their team the Miami Ass and change their logo to an ass..." |

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Dolphins 4th Down Debate: 01:26–13:00
• Tua vs. Marino Mobility: 14:25–16:59, 20:14–22:32
• Dan Marino’s Madrid Chant Segment: 21:12–29:36
• Miami Hurricanes/Notre Dame Playoff Rant: 33:01–43:41
• Old Man’s Ass as Dolphins Logo / Wrap-up Humor: 44:54–46:41

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Tone & Style

The episode is peak “Local Hour”—argumentative, self-deprecating, neurotic about Miami sports, and never far from the next laugh or absurd tangent. Whether discussing analytics, haunted chants, or playoff committee injustices, the panel melds their lived anxieties with layered jokes and voices, making it accessible and entertaining for both die-hards and casual listeners alike.

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Recommended Segment:
For pure comedy, jump to the discussion of Dan Marino’s “haunting” Madrid chant ([21:12]–[29:36])—a quintessential Le Batard Show moment marrying local legend, sports awkwardness, and Halloween horror vibes.

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[End of Summary]

Transcript

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[Stugotz]

Ultimate pun we appear to have on a fired up Monday, genuine sports disagreement between Zaslo and Greg Cody. The Dolphins won. Their coach went for it on 4th and short. 4th and goal. Very short tie game. 2 minutes left in the game. Went for a touchdown and failed to get the touchdown. Greg Cody, your thoughts?

[Greg Cody]

It was a lame brain decision by him. We can look back on it now and retrofit it and say he had faith in his team. They won anyway. They won. They got lucky in overtime. They won because Jack Jones had a pick on the only terrible pass Mariota threw all day. In that situation, you go for the win. It's late in regulation. The other team has no timeouts left. You go for the 1613 win in regulation and that was a long 4th and 2. That was not 4th and inch.

[Zaslo]

Oh, a long 2.

[Greg Cody]

That was a 4th and 2. Legit. And then the play they call is their backup running back plowing right into the middle of the line and being tackled by a 5,000 pound defensive tackle.

[Chris]

What if it was a normal two yards? Not a long two yards.

[Greg Cody]

It was a long two yards. That matters.

[Bobby]

There's a such thing as a long two, by the way. Cuz when you look at the, when you look at the field, sometimes they put that ball a little bit closer to the three yard line than the two yard line.

[Stugotz]

That sounds like if it's close to the three, you round up and say it's three, right, don't you? You know it's not a long two anymore. If it's long to know, I think it's a long two. If it's right in the middle, I think if it's. If it's close to two and a half is. When it's a long two. I think if it's over two and a half, you say it's three.

[Greg Cody]

Technically though it's two because they always go as though.

[Stugotz]

What are your thoughts here?

[Zaslo]

I think that two and three years ago, if Mike McDaniel is doing that, we are all like, yes, he's different. Super aggressive team. He's an offensive guy, of course he's.

[Stugotz]

Going to go for it two years ago.

[Chris]

Or a short thought he was going.

[Zaslo]

When he started to point a long two years ago. It feels like that. Yes, we'd have been okay with that. But now, and look, I've done this as well where it's, it's the thing to do is to be super critical of everything Mike McDaniel does because the way he looks and the way he sounds, the way he talks and now it's not so fun that he goes to that play. I think we'd have looked at it totally different along two years ago.

[Greg Cody]

No, I mean in that situation I don't care what the analytics say. I don't care what.

[Stugotz]

Why don't you care what the analytics say and what the percentages say? Because they say you're wrong.

[Greg Cody]

I know. Logic.

[Chris]

What decade are you talking. You're talking about the night in the 90s. Your take would smack the game.

[Zaslo]

The game's not the same a long.

[Stugotz]

Two decades ago, okay?

[Greg Cody]

They have a chance to take the lead late in regulation, they blow it, they get lucky in overtime. If they had lost that game in overtime, all of us, including that guy, would be vilifying.

[Zaslo]

But the record show is pointing at.

[Greg Cody]

Me, McDaniel right now. Vilifying McDaniel.

[Stugotz]

He did point at him with a vigorous fat Sausage finger. It's been noted. The record noted.

[Chris]

It wasn't even a point. It was, like, emphasis.

[Greg Cody]

Look, the dolphins saved McDaniel from embarrassment. They saved him from himself. He made a bad decision that backfired and. And then got immensely lucky for it.

[Chris]

If Dan Campbell does it, you're like, yep, good call.

[Greg Cody]

No, I don't. I go, why didn't you kick the field goal, kneecap eater?

[Chris]

The Lions last night went for it, like, 14 times. Like, fourth and six. Like, they don't give a shit.

[Greg Cody]

How'd that work out for him?

[Bobby]

Well, they got robbed. That's another story.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I mean, you are. You're trying to win or you're trying to be ballsy. Mike McDaniel wants to show he's got balls the size of grapefruit.

[Zaslo]

So he's trying to win the game.

[Greg Cody]

On fourth and along two.

[Zaslo]

No, he's trying to win the game. He was trying to win the game.

[Stugotz]

We'll continue this in a second. Settle down.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

We will get to the microscopic dissection of the end of regulation in Spain. A truly dreadful beginning to my Sunday. Just horrific football being played by both of those teams. As Zaslow and Cody genuinely disagreed about what Mike McDaniel did. Obviously, too bad football teams. How do I know? Because on 4th and short, one gets a delay of game and has to kick a field goal. And on fourth and short, another one when it's going for it, gets a false start, and I'm like, get out of here. Send it to Spain and stay there. Just don't come back. Don't take the flight back. The best play of that game was Mariota avoiding a safety. That's the best play. That was the best play in that football game. But because we love to dissect what the coaches do, I want to examine Zaslow and Greg Cody's disagreement here. Because what Mike McDaniel did in a tie game at the end of regulation, going for it, fourth and goal, instead of kicking the field goal, which is basically what everyone, every coach would have done that we've ever watched, would have kicked the field goal. Only two since 2000 have ever done what McDaniel did. McDaniel was the second. So in 25 years, McDaniel is the first to go for it in that situation. Cody says, I don't care what the analytics say. The analytics say you get a 3.5 better percentage chance to win the game by going for the touchdown there. Because even if you fail, you're leaving them at the 1 yard line with no timeouts. It's going to be very difficult for them to get out of that situation. But the mathematics say that. The thing that I wanted to ask you guys though about it because I thought the announcers were really bad at the end of that game. Really bad. First of all, they didn't talk about A Chan going out of bounds at the signals yard line, which he should not have done. Like A Chan has to stay in bounds. There has to.

[Chris]

That was what was going to cost him the game.

[Stugotz]

But it just. He has to know the game situation there. The announcers don't even mention it. He gets the first down. The announcers don't even mention it. But the announcers also have to know in the modern age that's a good assignment to get the Madrid game. Lot of money being spent to send everybody to Madrid. Those people need to know that the percentage of chance going forward is better at 3.5%. They need to tell the audience to make everyone back off. It can't just be any more some offensive lineman in the booth saying I think I I'd show guts here and go for it. Give me what the math is.

[Greg Cody]

Well, and also give me what the trend is, which is that he's only the second guy in 25 years to take that risk, that unnecessary risk.

[Stugotz]

You need the researchers to give you that information. It's why they're there, it's why they're flown to Madrid.

[Zaslo]

Well, I don't know if you could have gotten that stat right there in that spot that it's just the second time in 25 years, but certainly the former, the percentages going forward, kicking that they probably should have had.

[Stugotz]

McDaniel knows what the percentages are. He's playing the percentages. He is a math guy that he is absolutely doing there what is the correct play.

[Zaslo]

But it's also, it's not just the percentages there. It's all right. And this is why I believe McDaniel made the right move where the game is different than what it was 10 years ago. I've been talking about this recently here where the kickers are so good these days that it's taken a lot of the excitement out of the game where team gets the ball a minute to go. Can they drive and get to field rage? Well, yeah, they can like because these guys are kicking 60 yard field goals and it takes away a lot of the excitement. Just two plays and he's in field goal range. That's essentially what Mike McDaniel was considering yesterday, if he kicks the field goal there, and it was just under two minutes left, which is an eternity now in today's NFL. And the Dolphins go up three kickoff, you get the ball at the 30, you're 30 yards away. 30 yards away from time.

[Stugotz]

Let me, let me ask you this question, Greg, because I really do like, okay, the advancements in football that make these coaches less coward, more math. I like what it is when I'm on offense almost absolutely. With very few exceptions. If I'm on offense on 4th and 2, I almost always want to go for that. And if I'm the defense, I almost always want the kicker on the field in that situation. If I'm a fan of the defensive team and the other team has the ball on 4th and 1 or 4th and 2, I always want them to send the. If I'm on defense, I always want them to send the kicker out on the field because 1 and 2 yards, they're so precise now that they just take a tight end and they, they, they do a little play action and they just throw one of these rollout passes with such accuracy. I know a couple of fourth and shorts got stopped yesterday. I know the were terrible on 4th and Short. That's the best defensive game I've seen the Eagles play during the championship run. That's the worst Lions offensive game I've seen throughout their, throughout their season being good. So I know when the team fails on fourth and short, it always brings this criticism. But would you agree with me that if you're a fan of the defensive team, you always want to see the kicker run out onto the field on 4th and 1 and 4th and 2.

[Greg Cody]

What I agree with is that 4th and 2 means go for it most of the time. Situationally, most of the time. If my own team, it's the middle of the second quarter, my team is fourth and two from its own 42. I'm like, yeah, go for it. In this case, you take the three point lead and here's why. I don't know if you guys have noticed. Miami's defense has been pretty good the last three or four games. Pretty damn good as it was in Madrid. If you're Mike McDaniel, you give your team a 1613 lead, less than two minutes left, other team has no timeouts and you trust your defense to not let them drive 70, 60 yards for a tying field goal. I trust my defense.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not.

[Zaslo]

No, but it would have been 30 yards, 20 yards.

[Chris]

Why would you trust that defense The.

[Greg Cody]

Dolphins defense has been pretty good the last few games.

[Zaslo]

No, but your, but your, your argument there, trust them to not allow 60 or 70 yards is literally what Mike McDaniel did did by saying if we don't get a touchdown here, I trust my defense not to give up 60 yards and a potential game tying kick. Now the irony is that is exactly what happened. They ended up missing the kick. But like your argument there is literally what Mike McDaniel was banking on.

[Greg Cody]

You, you would agree that the Dolphins got lucky with that pick in. In on the first play.

[Stugotz]

I mean, it's a play. They made a play. They made a play.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. Mariota had had a good game. He made his only bad play of the game to begin overtime. That's luck that bailed out or he was due.

[Chris]

I mean, like by that logic, would.

[Greg Cody]

You also agree that if the Dolphins end up losing that game in OT, Mike McDaniel is being vilified this morning.

[Stugotz]

Well, that I'd agree. That I'd agreed with. But fans are noisy and they are fans.

[Greg Cody]

I'm talking about everybody.

[Stugotz]

They're math averse.

[Bobby]

Greg, the thing is, every interception, every fumble, every turnover is lucky.

[Greg Cody]

Right?

[Bobby]

Just depending on if the ball's bobbled up this way, if you cut off the pass that way, if you get, you know, get a hand on the football. Like turnovers are lucky in just the general sense.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, but this is a Dolphin defense that has had like three interceptions all season. I mean, you don't expect that, especially out of Jack Jones, who would not be a starting cornerback on any team in the league.

[Stugotz]

Well, that's another thing. There are so many players on that field because all of these teams are broken. There's so many players on that field at this point in the season that are just practice squad elevations that happen to be wearing professional uniforms.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, that's not a real player. I mean, if, if you don't mind, I'd like to move away from the micro analyzation of Commander's Dolphins and talk about like more interesting stuff, which is like Steven Ross talking about. Well, the reports are Steven Ross is looking for reasons to bring back Tua and Mike McDaniel and you have a team that's fighting for a head coach. We thought this team was done and dusted and yet you still don't want this quarterback speaking in front of a microphone, that stuff.

[Zaslo]

Why does he say weird things?

[Dan Le Batard]

He says weird things.

[Stugotz]

All right, let's play the sound of him saying that. Good Lord Jesus. He wants to. Well, that's what it's about he want. That's the joke I was making. He wants to play in Jerusalem.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not just that.

[Bobby]

It's a weird thing to say.

[Dan Le Batard]

He was asked about international series and he's like, let's go to Hawaii.

[Chris]

He was asked, where else should the league take games?

[Zaslo]

Well, I think he said, where else? In Europe, Right.

[Chris]

Watch. Well, he's just asked in general. It's like a blanket statement. But then he specifies because he says something like, let's listen. Hawaii.

[Stugotz]

So the United States again.

[Greg Cody]

But let's go play and just go play in Hawaii.

[Stugotz]

I think that'd be pretty cool.

[Dan Le Batard]

But in Europe, shoot.

[Greg Cody]

It'd be pretty cool to.

[Dan Le Batard]

To go play in Jerusalem, not in Europe.

[Greg Cody]

I don't know.

[Dan Le Batard]

That'd be sick.

[Stugotz]

Anyway, the Dolphins have the following situation. I actually understand. I don't know how you guys feel about this, but when you talk about what they're doing for next season, given the contract situation of their quarterback, and given that this draft doesn't have a surefire quarterback that you want to lose for, I understand putting a bandage on it for a year and saying, mcdaniel Tua, let's see if Tyreek Hill can get some value back. And putting out, just putting a bandage on it for a year because you don't actually want the leadership void of, let's blow the entire thing up and start over from ground zero.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was a good answer, though. I mean, wasn't at all worried about his brain whatsoever. Hearing him speak like that and smile like that. His teeth do look great.

[Stugotz]

Zaslo is done with the unwatchability of two of Dan.

[Zaslo]

He's unwatchable.

[Stugotz]

The number of screen passes, I don't know, throw the ball backwards.

[Dan Le Batard]

It sounds like you guys watched. I didn't because it was Commander's Dolphins and I've seen this Dolphin team the entire time. I just kind of want to move this thing along here. I'm a little annoyed that they won because now you're like, should we or shouldn't we? Some people, Steven Ross being one of them, just come on, let's get this thing.

[Chris]

He got chased down by like a.

[Zaslo]

350 pound line when he was all by himself. Just throw the ball away. Here's the thing with Tua. I've never seen a more immobile quarterback. And my entire childhood was Dan Marino. Like Marino. He'll step up into the pocket.

[Dan Le Batard]

He avoids.

[Zaslo]

He avoids the sack. I mean, Marino is a statue there. Marino is more mobile than Tua was. And with two and a Half Marino.

[Stugotz]

After the Achilles tear, you have Marino being like in the big boot.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, the Niketown boot.

[Zaslo]

Wearing the entire leg brace. All right? You know, look like a robot. Marino was more mobile than Tua is Tua now, if there's any kind of pressure coming on a play, if Tua does not find a receiver on his very first and immediate read, the play is completely screwed. He has no awareness in the pocket, he has zero ability to escape anyone, and he has zero improvisational skills. He is brutal. The fact that if a quarterback does not hit their very first option on a play, and that's what you. Meaning that the play screwed if he doesn't. And that's what you're relying on to win you games, it's impossible.

[Bobby]

That was the issue with the Mike McDaniel offense, right? It was like, oh, this offense is amazing. They're scoring all these points. Everything is so fast. But they're like, oh, what if we just take away the first read and then they just develop. Oh, wait a second. Tua can't scan the field. He's too worried about getting hit.

[Zaslo]

He can't just too worried about a money pocket.

[Stugotz]

Wait a minute, wait a minute. Okay, I will say that when they were at their healthiest and speediest, he was going 1, 2, 3 through the reads. What's happening now with Waddle as the only option? Okay, an assortment of tight ends you've never heard of and don't want on the field with Waddle as the only option. What it is, is Waddles. My first rate. I don't want to go to Washington. Any Washington. I'm going. Check down. I'm going immediately check down. I'm going to the. To the bubble screen.

[Chris]

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[Chris]

All right, we got to go back out there. That was big.

[Greg Cody]

Wake him up.

[Stugotz]

Oh, he doesn't want. He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that. As a result, he needs something that happens. You can see.

[Chris]

Mother effing.

[Stugotz]

Can we bother?

[Chris]

Are we bothering you right now?

[Stugotz]

Turn on your microphone. Gre.

[Greg Cody]

My microphone's on st.

[Chris]

Paint the scene.

[Greg Cody]

The paint the scene is. I got to go to work. Good night.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the st.

[Stugotz]

But since you mentioned Dan Marino and I, I. I can't believe that Zaz is saying the TUA is less mobile than Dan Marino.

[Zaslo]

Believe I'm right.

[Stugotz]

I can't believe that you're saying he's less mobile than Bernie Kozar. Bernie Kozar. Now, I can't believe that you're saying that TUA is lacking that kind of mobility. I think it's an exaggeration, but when you talk about Dan Marino, they brought him out in Madrid and.

[Zaslo]

Oh, did they.

[Stugotz]

He has some trouble with the chant. Chris Cody is alleging that Dan Marino has never done or heard a simple. Let's go, Dolphins.

[Chris]

Good on the crowd.

[Dan Le Batard]

They stayed with them.

[Chris]

But it's just so awkward.

[Greg Cody]

The ones who weren't booing, kind of.

[Chris]

Like when he did the drum at the Panther. He's just odd.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, well, he's bad in public.

[Greg Cody]

He's.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

He does not lead the league in public appearances. There was a shot of him next to Zach Thomas doing the whole ceremonial coin flip thing. He looked like he wanted to be anywhere on the face of the earth besides where he was.

[Stugotz]

You guys. You guys are saying the crowd was good. That's a crowd that doesn't speak English.

[Dan Le Batard]

And that's just the fans that travel.

[Zaslo]

Maybe he figures the let's go Dolphins chant is. It's kind of outdated. He's trying to switch it up a little bit.

[Greg Cody]

Let's go.

[Bobby]

Go.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's triggering.

[Stugotz]

It feels a bit death metal.

[Dan Le Batard]

Y Like, haunting.

[Bobby]

It is like, in my dreams.

[Greg Cody]

I'm like.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm like, where is he? Where's Dan Marino? I smell him, though. It does give me a little bit of anxiety hearing him do that, because that's not the way that it's supposed to go. And it reminded me of another South Florida legend trying to do a chant that left me feeling some type of way. Bobby. Bobby.

[Stugotz]

That is. That's Bar Barkov trying to celebrate Bobrovsky. All right, pair them together. Let's see who's worse.

[Bobby]

What's wrong with people?

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan?

[Stugotz]

Haunting is a good.

[Bobby]

Dan, Think about this for a second.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay?

[Bobby]

You're at the Pirates of the Caribbean. It's dark all of a sudden. All of a sudden this. This echoes from the pirate ship.

[Dan Le Batard]

The fog rolls in. You're great. Astute observation.

[Stugotz]

That is absolutely in Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein. Behind the ship when he's coming out of the sea.

[Greg Cody]

Let's go.

[Stugotz]

Victor.

[Dan Le Batard]

Bobby.

[Zaslo]

Victor.

[Dan Le Batard]

Bobby.

[Zaslo]

Victor.

[Dan Le Batard]

Bobby.

[Stugotz]

See, Barkops is not haunting. Bark ops makes me happy. It's playful. It's the way that you're in a bounce house with children and you chase them around.

[Dan Le Batard]

Bobby, what's wrong with these guys? At least Barkov, you know, this is not his first language.

[Stugotz]

I mean, if you've heard Dan Marino in front of microphones, like, it wouldn't feel like his first language.

[Greg Cody]

Let's go.

[Bobby]

Go.

[Stugotz]

One of the great surpr of my entire lifetime is as long as Dan Marino lasted on that CBS pregame show because they hired him in the first place and he spent how many years doing that? Because he was always notoriously bad talking in front of people, hated doing it and was boring on purpose.

[Greg Cody]

And yet he was a great quarterback. So we never criticized that. Where we're criticized too, about everything. So we criticize him for everything. For mentioning Jesus, for making jokes that don't work, for. For not being as glib and as eloquent as we want.

[Stugotz]

No one here is. No one here is criticizing him for mentioning Jesus. We were criticizing.

[Zaslo]

I don't think he mentioned Jesus at all.

[Stugotz]

Putting Jerusalem in. Putting a football game in Jerusalem and in Europe, that's what.

[Greg Cody]

Well, let me just.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hawaii as well.

[Greg Cody]

I need to defend to a here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay?

[Greg Cody]

I'm the only one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Feel free to do so in front of the microphone.

[Greg Cody]

I hate to always be the vor but if you're looking for reasons to criticize Tua after yesterday's game, you're looking for reasons to criticize tua. He's been pretty terrible this year. Led the league in interceptions with 13. He had a clean game. He played an efficient game. You know what he recognized? You know what the game plan recognized. Devon Achan is the best player on the field other than Jordan Brooks on defense, who had 20 tackles. Another reason why you trust your defense with a 1613 lead late in the game.

[Stugotz]

Greg, I don't trust that defense. Like, I really don't understand what you're doing with that defense. Defense has not been trustworthy. Like you can say they've been decent the last few games, but that's not a trustworthy defense. And what Zaslo's saying late in that game you have noticed this change, right? With the kickoffs. If they start at their 35 yard line, they get one first down. All of a sudden you're taking a 57 yard field goal. Because every game in the sport, every, every game in the Sport has a 57 yard field goal. I've got one of the strangest things to watch in football in terms of the evolution is the number of teams that inside of 60 yards and then just hand the ball off of the middle because they feel good about where they are on the field inside of the inside of a 60 yard field goal. Even if that, that is something in my lifetime, anything beyond 50 yards in my lifetime outside of the last five years has been a field goal that you don't want to be taking. Now it's a totally normal thing for kickers all over the league to be making 50 yard field goals.

[Greg Cody]

You know who's behind me in advocating my opinion? 99.9% of all NFL head coaches over the last quarter century. There's just no excuse.

[Zaslo]

No, but the game changed over 25 years.

[Greg Cody]

The game is no different than it was three years ago or five years.

[Zaslo]

But then don't use a 25 years as Greg it is different.

[Stugotz]

I gave the stat last week that the Bears and Giants went for it on fourth town five times in the first half. It's totally different.

[Greg Cody]

It's totally different.

[Stugotz]

All of these teams are going for it all over the place on 4th and Short. Nobody, nobody anymore doesn't go for it on 4th and short. There's not a coach in the league that you think of as Dave Wanstead notoriously scared on 4th and short.

[Greg Cody]

I agree. But again you have to think situationally. One of the exceptions is fourth and a long two. When you have a gimme, you have a one foot putt for, for what should be a winning field goal. You, you take those points in a game where points are tough to come by.

[Zaslo]

By the way, when we're talking about trusting your defense in that spot, give them a three point lead, trust the defense. The end they didn't get the conversion and the defense then literally allowed 60 yards with the opportunity to kick the game winning field goal like they, they. You want them to trust the defense there and the defense gave it up like in a major way. Now granted the benefit of hindsight but still like they gave it up still.

[Chris]

Let me throw another something at you. How about a modern twist on a doorbell where Amazon driver gets there walks up to your door and you hear this.

[Greg Cody]

Let's go.

[Chris]

Does kind of have the sing songy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I would have one. I would have a different doorbell though.

[Chris]

Ooh, that one is nice.

[Bobby]

That's when they hold it a little bit longer. You know what I mean?

[Dan Le Batard]

A quick one.

[Stugotz]

Let's conjure other situations where you might be scared. You've come down the stairs at midnight because you've heard a bump in the house. It is. That's also scary in that situation.

[Bobby]

It's the Halloween vers.

[Stugotz]

I mean that became decidedly less happy all of a sudden. Now I've got a crazy stranger. No, that's not the one I was looking for though. I'm come down the stairs the way Tony does when something in his garage falls off of the wall. Haunting is the exact way to describe Gravelly. It is. It also doesn't sound at all like Dan Marino. If I if I didn't give you any context and told and said, hey, who is this? It would take you a thousand guesses before any of you said it would be Dan Marino. But let's switch subjects here because I too am am tired of talking about an epically bad football game that now puts the Miami Dolphins more in the playoff hunt than they were at 4 and 7.

[Dan Le Batard]

Was that Ed Orgeron?

[Stugotz]

It sounds like a thick man. Like if I asked you if I didn't tell you anything and said describe this person. Visually you're saying this person is more square than stick.

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris]

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[Bobby]

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[Stugotz]

Don Le Batard Football.

[Zaslo]

Football, football.

[Stugotz]

Football St.

[Zaslo]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Stugotz]

This is a headline from the Athletic and I say it only to enrage Mike Ryan Notre Dame closing in. Miami shut out question mark.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, this is bullshit. It's bullshit. And the charmed existence of a Notre Dame fan right now is insane to me. Okay, Miami's doing what the committee asks. Be more consistent. Look better on offense. For all the talk about offense, Miami's offense is a lot better than some of the teams that surround them. In fact, Miami, I think statistically Right now is in line to have its second best offense over the last 20 years.

[Stugotz]

Years.

[Dan Le Batard]

Miami looked thoroughly dominant on Saturday. You could say that's who Miami is. They had a mid season hiccup. That's who Miami is. They're closing the season in style. NC State didn't cross the 50 until.

[Chris]

The fourth quarter and they have a good offense.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes. The ACC's leading rusher had negative two yards.

[Zaslo]

And NC State beat Georgia Tech last week.

[Greg Cody]

Yes. And they beat Georgia Tech and Virginia.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

North Carolina State had been the ACC killer.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. They beat Georgia Tech two weeks ago. That was NC State coming off a bottom. NC State's got talent on offense. I like their quarterback. Their quarterback does have a live arm. He looked like he was floating balls because Miami's defense was playing that fast. Miami's defense is unbelievable. But I realized this is bullshit over the weekend. Why am I living and dying watching Clemson run fullback dives, fumbling at the goal line twice, not enjoying my Friday night while Notre Dame just gets to beat up on Navy and Pitt. With coaches saying that this game doesn't matter. What do we. Are we really going to entertain this? Are we really going to take this down the line? I know what you're doing. You're putting Vanderbilt there. You're putting Utah there ahead of Miami. BYU I'm fine with for now. You're putting them there so you don't have them bunched up together. So you don't actually have to have this conversation about a head to head matchup. Let's put that to the side.

[Zaslo]

What we'll see tomorrow night the rankings come out.

[Dan Le Batard]

Everyone's talking about how Notre Dame is a bonafide playoff team. No, no doubt about it. It no discourse about it. Miami is the exact same way. If Miami gets shut out, Notre Dame better be shut out because head to head has to matter. Why would anybody schedule a non conference opponent of any consequence if you're not gonna get credit for when you beat that team directly?

[Stugotz]

Well, but I don't blame you. Even though Navy beat my beloved South Florida Bulls. I don't blame you for being upset about part of this. But you can't wave around a victory over NC State which has five wins, one of them over Campbell and then just the way Notre Dame beat Pitt because that's a game. That's the scariest game left on Miami's regular season schedule is Pitt. So you can't just. You can't just dismiss while praising ncc, not dismissing it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm contextualizing it by Saying the coach quote, I'd be happy. I'd be glad if we lose 110 to 3. Contextualizing it. And they came out flat. And they came out like they didn't give a shit about that game because it doesn't actually matter when it comes to pit season. And that's the. The benefit of not having to play in a conference for Notre Dame. Notre Dame is a good team. I believe Notre Dame deserves to be in the College Football Playoff. Don't get it twisted. Notre Dame is good. Miami beat that very good team. If Notre Dame is in the playoffs, Miami better be in the playoffs, too. Ahead of Notre Dame, too. This isn't. Oh, just come in here. Miami should be ranked ahead of Notre Dame because they both played.

[Stugotz]

I'd be almost willing to guarantee you that if Miami wins the rest of its games, it will get into the postseason. Just because this college football season is so batshit insane where everyone is losing. And I look up at halftime on Saturday and can't believe that Texas A and m is down 30 to three at home to South Carolina.

[Dan Le Batard]

I hear you. I think that there's two weeks left in November, notoriously crazy for college football. Miami might get the help. Hell, it might get the help it needs in its own conference, and that would go a long way to help in Miami's chances. What I'm saying is that concept right there is bullshit. Miami shouldn't be in the discussion right now. Is needing help. That should be a conversation for Notre Dame. Notre Dame should be the team that is chasing Miami. This whole charmed existence of not having to sweat over this final month of the season, when you're the guys that lost here in a game that Miami controlled in a game that looked a lot closer than it should have.

[Zaslo]

Okay, I feel like what you're doing here is a little bit like when the NBA All Stars are released, and you're like, this guy should be an All Star, all right? But you're not giving us who shouldn't be an All Star whose place he should take. So you think Notre Dame is a playoff team, and you also think Miami is because you think Miami should be above them. Okay, who. Who that's in the. In the picture right now should be out then.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, the teams that are directly ahead of Miami.

[Zaslo]

You're good with byu.

[Dan Le Batard]

You said I'm good with byu. They have a tough game against Cincinnati. BYU has an opportunity to lose another game here, and then that's a different discussion.

[Zaslo]

But who should Miami be ahead of them?

[Dan Le Batard]

They should be Ahead of Utah, and they should be ahead of Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt somehow climbed on a bye week in the AP.

[Zaslo]

That's fine. So then Miami, you think should be 12, which still has them out of the playoffs.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I understand. Within striking distance. And then you have two games to win in style and show the committee that you are indeed a playoff team. And if you're 12, then you're closer to Notre Dame. And then Notre Dame should be the one that's sweating it on the final weekend of the season. Because Miami beat Notre Dame. Miami scheduled Notre Dame. Miami beat Notre Dame. I shouldn't be sweating like this. I am a madman. I am not enjoying myself right now. And I should be enjoying myself because a couple of weeks ago we beat their ass at the line of scrimmage. We dominated that game. We controlled that game, and we got a victory. A victory should matter. Don't come to me and say, well, look at what Notre Dame looks like right now. If those two teams played, who would be favored? I don't know. My guess is Notre Dame. Guess who was favored the last time they played? Notre Dame. What happened? Miami controlled the game.

[Greg Cody]

I agree that if the Dolphins, if the Canes win out and finish 10 and 2, they're going to make the CFP. I think. And should. But let's not lose.

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys sound like homers, though. I'm not the home. Like, do you guys know the national narrative? You guys know the odds? Like, you're talking about how we're going to be in the CFP if we win out.

[Greg Cody]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

I listen to all these national podcasts. We're an afterthought.

[Greg Cody]

Right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Alabama's in good shape.

[Greg Cody]

Kirk.

[Dan Le Batard]

Herb street went on television and said a 3 loss, Texas should be in consideration for an at large. A three loss. Texas that lost to Florida, that we dominated.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, but let's not lose track of the fact that um did this to. To itself. At one point. They're five and, oh, and number two in the country. They lose a game that they shouldn't have lost to Louisville, which wasn't even that close. Wasn't as close as the final score. They got spanked.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think the SMU game is worse. Like, you're always gonna lose a game. You're not gonna go undefeated. Yes, I hear you. Miami's lost two games on the last.

[Greg Cody]

Play of the game, and at least SMU's a road game.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're really gonna go 21 and 4 over the last two years and not have a playoff to show for it. This is. This is insane to me.

[Stugotz]

I have a way for you to enjoy yourself though. I'm going to tickle you some. You say you're not enjoying yourself. How about some of this?

[Dan Le Batard]

Bobby does help. Bobby does. I know. Look, I, I still am worried about Miami going to an oh, but like let that be the gambit. Miami has to go to an O here. Miami doesn't handle business in November. It's why last year they missed a college football playoff. But I listened to what the committee says. I listen to what the committee says Miami needs to do and Miami has done that for the last two weeks. This looks like a different Miami team on offense. They look dynamic. They don't look predictable anymore. It's a damn shame if we look back on the season and say the staff got in its own way because a fan base was screaming about how obvious your tendencies were and SMU won a game that they shouldn't have beat. Beat you in.

[Zaslo]

Oklahoma winning this weekend really hurts.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oklahoma has a good.

[Zaslo]

That really hurts.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oklahoma has a good resume. I. Yeah, it's.

[Zaslo]

No, but it could have been over for them.

[Dan Le Batard]

They.

[Zaslo]

They, they would have been done and instead they're. They're going to get in.

[Stugotz]

They got so outplayed.

[Zaslo]

It takes a spot.

[Stugotz]

I can't believe. Here's another one. That game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Here's another thing that bothers me. I understand Alabama's reputation and Miami's reputation. They have a common opponent.

[Stugotz]

Opponent.

[Dan Le Batard]

It went totally different ways. We want to talk good losses, bad losses, quality wins. FSU got embarrassed. FSU embarrassed Alabama. Miami played fsu. That is a bottom feeder in the acc. That for all the SEC narrative that we have there, why doesn't that stick? Alabama lost the first game this season. Miami was the first game.

[Stugotz]

You know the answer to your question though. There are going to be six SEC teams in the tournament no matter how bad the SEC is.

[Dan Le Batard]

But that's bullshit. It's bullshit. Like they're beating each other up and they're. They're getting credit for depth where Miami doesn't get credit for depth. Even though the SMU team that they played has only lost one regular season conference game since joining the conference. The Louisville laws like these are not bad teams. Notre Dame played Louisville last year. Notre Dame was in a one score game at home against Louisville last year. Notre Dame and several CFP teams could go to SMU and not win that game. These are not bad losses. They're bad losses. In that Miami kind of beat themselves in it. And that's really frustrating. But if for all this it's not how you start, it's how you finish. Talk. Well, Miami's on halfway to finishing pretty damn good because that team on Saturday looks like it definitely deserves to be in the field. Definitely.

[Greg Cody]

Right. But, but if, if, if they're going to finish 11 and 1 instead of 10 and 2, we're not even having this conversation.

[Dan Le Batard]

I can't reverse the. I can't reverse the loss. I can provide context and say Miami has done everything that it needs to.

[Greg Cody]

Do except win one additional game.

[Dan Le Batard]

It is nonsense that we have to have this conversation and I have to fight for my life and find the propaganda. When Notre Dame lost to Miami, they're sitting at the same exact record and they don't have these conversations. Every talking head is like, yeah, total playoff team right there.

[Stugotz]

Notre Dame.

[Bobby]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

It's just because their two losses are to Texas A and M and Miami by four points.

[Dan Le Batard]

But that matters. But you said their losses are to Texas A and M and Miami. Miami played them head to head. They beat them.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, but they're less worse losses. Less worse.

[Dan Le Batard]

What are you talking about?

[Stugotz]

They are less, worse losses.

[Zaslo]

How is it not a terrible loss.

[Dan Le Batard]

When you're in direct comparison to another team in the CFP if you lose to that team?

[Zaslo]

That's a bad loss.

[Stugotz]

Losing by Mike, there's no dispute to what I'm about to say, which is losing to Texas A and M in Miami by four points is more impressive than losing to SMU and Louisville by more than that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, yeah. By like three more points than that. Miami's loss on the last.

[Zaslo]

Even if it were the same amount of points, it's still more impressive.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, but.

[Stugotz]

We'Re going to keep tickling. I've got some other talking about how.

[Dan Le Batard]

That loss to Miami looks good and you're just totally bypassing the loss.

[Stugotz]

I'm going to Miami try and cheer you up. How about Ed Orgeron as a pirate in AI haunting you with Dan Marino's chanting? Tell me that works. That's pretty good right there.

[Bobby]

That works. I see the old galleon in the back, Dano.

[Stugotz]

And now, in order to cheer you up, I'm going to pull out the best card I've got. I've been working on it for an entire week. Yes, me and chat GPT it is the Dolphins logo replaced by an old man's ass.

[Chris]

Oh, now that's an old man's ass.

[Zaslo]

That's an old man's.

[Chris]

Is that Greg Cody?

[Greg Cody]

I would not have known that. My ass is better.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's a ball Sack, guys.

[Zaslo]

That better not be.

[Bobby]

It looks like a brain.

[Dan Le Batard]

That is a ball sack.

[Greg Cody]

I thought it was a brain.

[Stugotz]

The Miami Dolphin should name their team the Miami Ass and change their logo to an ass. Not a nice ass like an old man's ass. I worked on that all weekend and I appreciate wrinkles. That you guys sending it back.

[Dan Le Batard]

No one. No one said these look like a pair of testicles. No one said you add more wrinkles. It looks like a ball sack. No one said that.

[Stugotz]

I was working on it very hard all week.

[Chris]

See the original.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. That is not what we want to use more what we want.

[Zaslo]

That's what mine looks like.

[Stugotz]

Hey, yo, that is not what you're asked.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look, dude.

[Stugotz]

Good for you, Zaslo. Sad.

[Dan Le Batard]

Slow.

[Stugotz]

I'm assuming that when you walk nude through your house that wearing sneakers or flip flops that that is not what you're asking.

[Chris]

I bet it looks more like the nice one than the old one.

[Zaslo]

Dan nailed it though. That is how I walked in my house. Naked, but just with my sneakers on.

[Stugotz]

Look how pleased he is with himself.

[Greg Cody]

It had to be said. It had to be said.

[Zaslo]

Good one. Never heard it.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you.

[Stugotz]

Have you been hearing that one since childhood? We've got Nick Wright up next. He's got to be hurting. The Chiefs have a worse.

[Bobby]

Oh, he's got to be hurting.

[Chris]

Jeremy embarrassed us yesterday.

[Stugotz]

Chiefs have a worse record than the Carolina Panthers, whose season is over, by the way. As I've been saying all the second time, Bryce Young threw for 448 yards yesterday. Left the field twice in a way that I thought he had career ending injury. But twice. Twice left the field, comes back out. What a group of losers they have in Atlanta, man. Like it much? It must stink to be a Falcons fan. Bryce Young twice left that football game. One of them on 4th and short. He he on 4th and short. He trips taking the snap, falls down and I thought tore his hamstring while sliding backward trying to get off the ground. Comes back in the game, throws for 448 yards. And if not for Jacoby Brissette breaking the record for completions in a game, I would have said that's the best game I've ever seen. A bad quarterback.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now's a good time to remember where Tequila's story truly began. In 1795, Cuervo invented tequila. Cuervo, what are you doing here?

[Stugotz]

Cuervo. Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I do know that to be true. But even during AD reads like Cuervo I think he could lay out, especially for one of our great partners.

[Stugotz]

Sweet, delicious Cuervo.

[Dan Le Batard]

Since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots. The same family, the same land, the same passion.

[Stugotz]

Cuervo.

[Dan Le Batard]

So. So enjoy the tequila that started it all. Cuervo, Cuervo, the tequila that invented tequila.

[Chris]

Proximo.

[Dan Le Batard]

Cuervo.com, please drink responsibly.

[Stugotz]

Cuervo.