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Dan Le Batard
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Billy Corben
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Mike Ryan
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Billy Corben
Cuervo.
Stugotz
This is the Don Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.
Dan Le Batard
I'm lucky I don't sleep. And last night was the perfect night for me because there was so much going on over the weekend trying to figure out all the different things I wanted to discuss. The problem with the loneliness of not sleeping is who am I gonna call? I went down the list. Can I reach Roy? Is there any way to get to Billy or Jess or Jeremy, who's gonna answer my texts? And I must tell you guys that I went over. I didn't contact any of you.
Jessica
I was about to say, I didn't get a single text from you, buddy.
Stugotz
What time are we talking here?
Dan Le Batard
This was approximately. So my night was I got to Miami, check into the hotel, and then White Lotus. So I watched that till about 1046 because I didn't start it directly at 9. It was an hour and a half. Then this was about 1:47, approximately when I wanted to reach out. And the reason I remember is I was thinking maybe I could reach out to Dan, who's in a different time zone. But then I just swallowed my phone. It's like a ref swallowing his whistle.
Jeremy
Did you have anything interesting to say, or was this just loneliness like, hey, you up?
Dan Le Batard
It? Well, it always starts with, hey, are you up? But I think it gets Interesting. Talking about what order to talk about stuff. Like I wanted to start with work. Yes.
Jeremy
At one in the morning on a Monday morning.
Dan Le Batard
It seemed important because we were going on air and only 7 hours and 13 minutes. And so I was calculating in that remaining time can I get through everything that I have to get through. And again, I swallow my phone.
Jeremy
You made a good decision. Dan would have texted us for sure.
Dan Le Batard
So Dan does do that. He's been told not to. He's really trying to improve on that, but I actually. Is he? No. Yeah, you know, he's trying. He's totally trying. No, no, he. Are you still getting the 5am emails? Yes, because he learned how to schedule emails.
Jeremy
Wait, what time did you get the email the other day?
Billy Corben
That was 3:47 Eastern. Eastern.
Dan Le Batard
He promised me that he would schedule emails.
Billy Corben
I. How long ago was that conversation?
Dan Le Batard
It's been three or four days maybe.
Billy Corben
Three or four days? Yeah. All right, so then we're good. It was before that.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, there's a whole new sheriff in town. It's all about the scheduling. He had a funny thing that he did when he scheduled something. He doesn't like to interrupt. Nothing personal. Which is done at 8am live this morning. Of course, he texted the entire nothing personal show and I didn't respond. But he's also potentially in a different time zone and so he said, I'm going to send an email, but you won't get it. And scheduled 8:00. Don't look. It came at 11:00 Eastern. He scheduled it for 8:00, his time zone.
Jeremy
If you're going to tell me you're sending me an email at that point, just send it. There's no point in the warning that you're going to get an email.
Billy Corben
I was wrong. It wasn't 3:47, it was 345.
Dan Le Batard
Do you not like the text that says are you free?
Jessica
No.
Dan Le Batard
You just want the phone call, you want the vote right off the top, just call me.
Jessica
Yes, absolutely.
Dan Le Batard
See, I was taught by people younger than I that they like the warning first. Like, hey, can we talk? Or hey, are you friends?
Jeremy
It's one of my, my good gal friends. Just call me.
Dan Le Batard
So for me, I'd have to do the warning text.
Jeremy
If you called me out of the blue, I'd be like, huh? Ooh, that's how you be like this about. If Billy called me out of blue, I would be like, oh, yeah, yeah, something written wrong.
Stugotz
I'm not a caller. I don't really like call people. I'M more of a texter.
Jeremy
If Jeremy called me out of the blue, I would just hit ignore.
Billy Corben
Yeah, I get that.
Dan Le Batard
So everyone you work with is either a ha. Oh. Or an ignore.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Jeremy
No, if Taylor called me, I'd be like, what's up? Hey, buddy. What about what? A Nick came from OG last night. Oh, man, he's been playing so well the last couple of weeks.
Dan Le Batard
It's such a great list we could make of who we work with, who gets what when a call comes in or an email, anything from the ignore to what's even worse, which is the oh. Or for me, what. The worst is what you did with me, actually, Jessica, which was the like, that made me feel terribly lonely and upset.
Stugotz
The oh is a confusing description. Like, I feel like. And I don't know, I feel like Jess doesn't hate me, but the oh is like, oh, if he's reaching out to me, things must be there.
Jeremy
I think there must be, like, a work emergency if you're calling me.
Dan Le Batard
I've actually called you before with stuff that was going on. I called you the story first, but I did the text.
Jeremy
Yeah. So I'm saying if you just call out of the blue, it's like, yeah, that's not good.
Dan Le Batard
I wish it didn't have to be that way. Especially last night. Especially knowing all the different topics. I don't know how to lead with anything other than the nonsense we started with with Ovechkin. It's history. There's. We could talk about, obviously, what happened to Duke over the weekend, and we will. We should. We can talk about. Because I think we have to. Let me check my contract. I have to do LeBron and the Cowboys and the Heat and the Marlins and the Dolphins.
Jessica
Fine print.
Dan Le Batard
Very fine print.
Stugotz
Well, Panthers, too. Don't forget that.
Dan Le Batard
And we have to do Panthers and.
Stugotz
Tomorrow we have to relitigate all of those topics.
Dan Le Batard
No, no. Well, you may, but I wouldn't do that.
Jessica
No.
Billy Corben
We have to talk about, um, basketball.
Jeremy
We could also do that, but 2023's team.
Stugotz
Yeah, that's right.
Dan Le Batard
I like doing Ovechkin. And the reason I want to talk about Alex Ovechkin is that I am a sucker for watching things that never happen, that I expect never to happen. It's why I rooted for the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. I wanted to see the three peat because I've never seen a three peat when I was lucky enough. And this is a total hit the button, which someone else will do. I went to Gretzky's last game ever. And it was really cool. It's not me. I was in New York. I didn't fly for it. It was there. But the thought was in New York, and certainly in Edmonton, that Wayne Gretzky, the great one, the goat, that record will never be broken. I think that there are. There are records that we view as those that are untouchable. And the goal number by Gretzky, to me, was one of them. And then Ovechkin, out of nowhere, he's getting closer and closer. Just for fun. Do you guys know who's next to break Ovechkin's record? Active? What's your number? One guess, Probably Sidney Crosby. Sidney Crosby. And then you'd say, how far away is Sidney Crosby?
Jessica
Maybe give me an over.
Dan Le Batard
I'll give you an over.
Jessica
5200.
Dan Le Batard
273. So now let's say that Sidney Crosby is better than Ovechkin in scoring. He's. Let's say he's McDavid. Let's say he scores 60. 60 goals a season. Get me an age on Sidney Crosby. 37.
Jessica
Yeah, just about.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, roughly. Does he have five more years? Five more years of scoring 50 goals?
Jessica
No, not 50 goals. No.
Dan Le Batard
It's out of the question. There's no chance. We watched a record last night, and I kept thinking about the business of the record because Ovechkin did it on the road. They could have sat him against the Islanders and had him come home and break the record. But the Capitals are playing for something. They're playing for home ice in the Stanley Cup. They got.
Jessica
They already have it.
Dan Le Batard
I thought.
Jessica
They have.
Dan Le Batard
Aren't they behind Winnipeg?
Jessica
Yes, they are behind Winnipeg. For the east, though, they get home. Iceland.
Dan Le Batard
Right. But for the Stanley cup, they got to catch Winnipeg.
Jessica
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
So they got a reason to win, and so they're going out there trying to win it. So, of course you play Ovechkin. What we do, when we have a player who has a chance to break a record, we actually give him the choice we would ask. We had spoken to ichiro before his 3,000th hit. Do you want to play in Colorado? Do you want to wait till you're back in Miami? And he said, put me in, coach. I want to win the game. I'm ready to play, asshole. So I. Wow.
Jessica
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
That's really. That's not.
Billy Corben
Ichiro ruined everything.
Dan Le Batard
Of all the words to describe Ichiro, that's not one.
Stugotz
I wasn't talking about him.
Dan Le Batard
You talking about me?
Stugotz
I'm not pointing any fingers. Just Saying someone involved was.
Dan Le Batard
I'm sorry. Sorry.
Stugotz
Did Jaga retire officially? I feel like Jagger still has a run in him.
Jessica
Yes, I believe he retired. He's in Europe right now.
Dan Le Batard
I think I saw him playing in Europe. At the age. Isn't he 58.
Jessica
He is not 50.
Dan Le Batard
How old is Jagger? He's.
Jessica
He's. He's. He's free up there, but he's not 58.
Dan Le Batard
Gordie Howe.
Jeremy
Well, 53.
Dan Le Batard
No, 53.
Stugotz
He's got like two seasons left.
Jessica
Gordy Howe's dead, by the way.
Dan Le Batard
But Gordie Howe scored goals in the NHL, I believe. At 52 years old. Yes. How is it that someone. I'm 57. I can barely get out of bed and forget getting on skates. But can you imagine the possibility of scoring a goal in the NHL at 52? Jagger's done. He'll never score again. On the ice. In the NHL?
Jessica
Yes, in the NHL. He's not doing that.
Dan Le Batard
Billy.
Stugotz
Yes.
Dan Le Batard
It wasn't me.
Stugotz
I'm not blaming you.
Dan Le Batard
It's time for me to tell you the truth.
Stugotz
Madding because I'm ready to hate Don Mattingly.
Dan Le Batard
You do not.
Stugotz
I hate him.
Dan Le Batard
How do you hate now? Now you're just being argumentative.
Stugotz
No, I don't like him. Donnie. Baseball, please.
Dan Le Batard
Donnie Mattingly is one of the great players. Hall of Fame players. Short of back issues. Longest tenured manager in Marlin's history. We didn't fire Mattingly when we could have.
Stugotz
I know. The only manager I wanted you to fire and you guys refused to. She's couldn't do me a solid.
Dan Le Batard
I really liked firing managers.
Stugotz
Constantly taking out pitchers when they're middle. No hitters.
Billy Corben
Guy, what is it that you liked the most about firing managers?
Dan Le Batard
That there would be an opportunity for improve. That the dream could be alive.
Billy Corben
So it wasn't about like the feeling of knowing you were ending their tenure. Like, it wasn't. It wasn't the benefit of knowing that their job was lost. It was just knowing that there was a future ahead of you.
Dan Le Batard
It's a carrot. It's. I always felt in baseball that's more human. Over those 18 years, I always felt like the dog at the track. I always feel badly for those dogs. Of course, you go and you bet on them and it's horribly inhumane. But they're always chasing that thing that goes around the track, I think. Is it a carrot or a bunny? It's a rabbit.
Jessica
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Literally. It's not a real rabbit. It's.
Jessica
No, no.
Dan Le Batard
Rabbit.
Jessica
Yeah. Mechanical rabbit. Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
How mean is that? They never catch it.
Jeremy
You want it to be real rabbit?
Dan Le Batard
No, I want them to be able to catch it. Like, for winning, you should. Instead of winning money just for your owner and for the fans who bet on that dog, shouldn't that dog get the rabbit?
Stugotz
Yeah, it'd be awesome. The race ends and then they throw like a real, like, rabbit on the track. And now it's like, have at it, dog.
Dan Le Batard
You won. Yeah, the two dog got the rabbit. Wouldn't that show the other dogs that they ought to be running faster?
Jeremy
Yeah, but then if they find out it's a fake rabbit, they're not gonna run as fast next time.
Dan Le Batard
Do they know the difference?
Stugotz
Well, no. That's why you throw a real rabbit on after the race. And you let you sacrifice rabbits, elderly rabbits that are on their way out in terms of honestly, like, putting them.
Billy Corben
Out of their misery.
Stugotz
Yeah, exactly right.
Dan Le Batard
I'm talking euthanasia.
Stugotz
Exactly right. Rabbit euthanasia.
Dan Le Batard
This would be the ultimate thing in dog racing.
Jeremy
I don't like any of this.
Jessica
The Peter people.
Stugotz
Do dogs still race? I thought that dog racing kind of went by the wayside.
Dan Le Batard
No, that's a. It's a whole thing, really. We did. When I was a summer associate at a law firm, they took us to a dog track and we were told that you always do the trifecta, 2, 1 5, and that it will hit once during the course of a day of races.
Jessica
How long ago Was that?
Dan Le Batard
In 1991. Wow. Is that before Jessica was born, by chance?
Jeremy
Well, before Jeremy and I were born.
Dan Le Batard
So I was in law school. And in law school, you go to your summer associate at a firm and they do, like, events in order to woo you to. It's a bait and switch. They let you go to a dog track and a racetrack and baseball games because then they work you 100 hours a week once you get the job. So it's, it's, it's ridiculous. So you go to the dog track and they. You get a coupon, like, for a drink. But it's your own money if you want to gamble. But we were told 21 5. And so you bet the trifecta every single time. And wouldn't you know it, 2, 1, 5 hits almost every time. It's a little bizarre. Almost like it's fixed. Almost like the rabbits fixed.
Billy Corben
This is great advice on something that I don't think any of us in this room are going to do or would advocate for at this point, but I appreciate having knowledge. I, I mean, I don't go to Highline. A couple other people go.
Dan Le Batard
You bet on highlight.
Billy Corben
Yeah, go to Highlight.
Stugotz
Highlight is like, at least like my experience with Highlight here is it's very similar to, like your experience at the law firm where it's like, oh, come on in and here's some free money to bet. And then you can leave with free money. But on the way out, why don't you check out our casino and. Oh, you want $80. That's free. $80 you can spend in our casino today.
Dan Le Batard
Drop it on red.
Jessica
I mean, I won $400 at a Daniel Highlight.
Stugotz
Really?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Stugotz
Doing what?
Jessica
Trifecta.
Stugotz
Oh, wow. Did you report it?
Dan Le Batard
Was it 21 5?
Jessica
No, it was not 21 5.
Dan Le Batard
You don't have an 8 in there somewhere? I'm not giving tax advice to any of you, but do you? If you don't deduct your losses, you really don't need to declare your wins on the slot machines, though. They give you an actual tax form if you hit a big slot win at a casino. But if you. If you put $1,000 on or a million dollars on black and roulette and win, they give you the chips, they give you the money. They don't. You don't fill out anything. But on slots you do.
Jessica
I mean, you would think that would be pretty noticeable winning that much money. Probably would have to declare that, wouldn't you?
Dan Le Batard
The greatest example of someone doing something noticeable and not declaring was the first ever winner of Survivor. When everybody was watching, a guy named Richard Hatch won Survivor in 2000. He was the one who was naked on national television and he decided to take the million dollars and not declare it as income. And he got caught and convicted of tax evasion.
Jessica
Of course he did.
Dan Le Batard
And because they didn't withhold it, you're supposed. Listen, if you withhold, which is what you get with a normal paycheck, there's tax withholding. You still have to file your taxes and you still have to declare what your income is. That idiot didn't do it.
Stugotz
Well, what was his thinking? That he wanted abroad and they gave him the check abroad. So it wasn't income for the US Government.
Dan Le Batard
Survivor had just started. It's the same thinking as the people on the Price is Right who are betting a dollar, who bid a dollar on the showcase and then win. And you know how they always say the retail value of this showcase is 14,000, 469? You get taxed for that. So just FYI, like, remember when Oprah gave a car to everybody Tax with a car. You can't take that car if you can't afford to pay the tax because it's taxed.
Jeremy
I imagine we'll talk about the White Lotus season finale later on in the show, but there was a noticeable thing that happened that made me think, what if the IRS finds out about this? But again, we'll wait till later because I know everyone hasn't seen it yet.
Stugotz
You know, a lot of people on those, like, home renovation shows, they. They end up losing the houses. Yeah. Because the value goes like way up. They can't pay the property tax on it. And it's like, wow, we fixed up your house and now you're homeless.
Dan Le Batard
They're amazing people in Florida for a living. They actually will help your property tax bill go down. They take a percentage of it. Do you guys do this? If your homeowners in Florida, they're. They're tax assessment lawyers. And if your house is worth 600 grand, they'll make it. So your house is worth 300 grand?
Jessica
Sure. That's not a scam.
Dan Le Batard
No. These are legitimate. These are legitimate lawyers. It's done. The players, we all did it. It's not a scam at all. It's approved by the state of Florida, the Department of Revenue of Florida. Totally legit. But they take a cut.
Jessica
Might have to look into that. Every house down here is like worthless, like 800,000 now.
Dan Le Batard
So you should 100% take a look. There's a way to fight what your assessment. But when the home renovation comes, it didn't occur to me that that is one of the things that comes with.
Stugotz
It, like the Price is Right. Also, a lot of the people end up leaving without the prizes because they have to, they have to like pay or show that they're going to pay on the way out. And they're like, oh, nevermind. Like, I had this great moment, but now I don't get any of these prizes. There's shows that I think I read. I don't remember which shows it was where they give the prizes. And if you can't and you're like in the audience, you can be like, yeah, I'll take that prize. As long as you're going to pay for it. I need to look up which shows offered the prize. The prizes were up for Grant.
Dan Le Batard
It's like the boat in the Price is Right. I always laughed at that. When they go out and there's this big boat that someone wins.
Jeremy
What a headache. Well, I would never like what. I don't want a boat. I Want to know someone with a boat?
Stugotz
Well, no. It's like you win a boat but you live in South Dakota and it's like, oh, my God, I won this boat. It's like, great. What am I going to do with this boat?
Jessica
Sell the boat. If, if you can afford the tax and get that.
Dan Le Batard
How do you take delivery? I always thought about that, that you have to handle the stuff that you win on. The Price is Right, it's one of my favorite game shows, but you really have to be careful. There's a great documentary about someone who was gaming the prices. Right.
Jeremy
I watched that. It was very interesting. He had like a massive database of what everything cost over the history of time.
Stugotz
He was wronged. I mean, he was punished for studying and doing research and just having all of the information.
Dan Le Batard
I've had a major issue with that. I don't like punishing people who do extra work that should be rewarded. The fact that he's willing. There are people on Survivor as an example, who practice the puzzles in advance. They build 3D models, they're doing all sorts of stuff. And old school Survivor players are upset with them. And I'm the opposite. I think it's the greatest thing ever if you're willing to do that. I tried to sit in the driveway. I tried to make fire before I went on the island. I had flint and a machete.
Stugotz
I don't understand how there's people that still go on Survivor and don't know how to make fire.
Dan Le Batard
Like, you know, it's harder than you.
Stugotz
Think, but you should practice it, you know, and especially if you get to the end, it gets down to like a fire making competition towards the end of Survivor. So there's people who have been on the island for 40 days, 36 days, whatever it is now, and haven't practiced at one point in time, had no plan on getting there, what they would do if they were in that position.
Dan Le Batard
You actually do practice before filming starts. You go to the island and there's a whole pre show and part of that is making fire and making shelter. You know those palm fronds that you have to weave them and you do it by hand. It takes a lot of practice and you have hours, days, a week before the show starts and you have to learn how to do it. And I could never. I'm terrible at that kind of stuff.
Stugotz
So what would you guys do? You'd go and you'd have like, okay, it's time for Survivor school today. And they'd take you out to Survivor school and Then you'd go back to like the Four Seasons or whatever. And they're like, all right, in six days.
Billy Corben
It sounds like the beginning of the training in the Hunger Games. Like, it's. They're setting you up to just send you out to slaughter.
Dan Le Batard
So as a matter of fact, you are at a resort, but you're in a tent on the ground so you can start adjusting to living outside.
Jessica
And like Fire Fest.
Dan Le Batard
And you're in. Well, except you're told in advance what it will be like. And you don't. You don't pay. You get paid. And secondly, it's not Survivor school. There's a whole thing. You have to do medical checks, you do mental health checks, you do cast photos, you do interviews, you meet with the producers. There's all sorts of pre show stuff that you have to do.
Stugotz
Are you isolated from the other contestants?
Dan Le Batard
No. But you're silent. You're not allowed to talk.
Stugotz
Huh.
Dan Le Batard
So for me, it was the worst part of the game. They give you books, you can read, etc. I read a. I read Animal Farm while waiting, but I hadn't read that since high school. And it was really interesting.
Billy Corben
Very interesting choice to read Right. Before doing Survivor.
Dan Le Batard
Why do you think it was one of the choices? Listen, they're not only.
Billy Corben
Imagine the headspace that put you in.
Dan Le Batard
And you eat three meals with everybody, but it's all in silence and there's guards.
Billy Corben
How long is this process? Like, was this a couple of weeks?
Dan Le Batard
No. No. About a week.
Mike Ryan
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
I got in trouble. I almost got kicked out of Survivor before. I got kicked out of Survivor because I was communicating with one of the fellow castaways. Her name was Sarah Lacina. I didn't know her name at the time. We had never met. We had only seen each other in silence and our tents were next to each other. And I was so lonely that week with no ability to talk to anyone but the shrink and the producers, that I tried to communicate quietly in the tent, but they have guards out there watching. And I kept getting in trouble.
Billy Corben
Yeah, this still sounds like the Hunger Games.
Dan Le Batard
And I didn't stop. So then we started communicating through sneezing, where we would sneeze. And then we got to say God bless you. And then we had. We ended up becoming friends. We're still friends to this day. It's all part of my 1:47am text issue last night.
Jessica
You texted her?
Stugotz
Yeah. What was Sarah up to?
Dan Le Batard
She's on the central time zone.
Stugotz
Oh. So it's only 1247.
Dan Le Batard
So that would have been a candidate. Except she's not doing the show today. It was really for all of us to figure out where we wanted to go after Ovechkin.
Jessica
Get on a show.
Stugotz
Book her.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Billy Corben
Let's talk Survivor.
Stugotz
We saw Sarah today.
Dan Le Batard
Sarah amazing on the show. She would 100% come on. She's a police officer in Iowa. She's one survivor. I don't know if you know that name. And I was the first Jew she ever met.
Stugotz
Oh, and after meeting you of the Jewish people.
Dan Le Batard
She's not converting. She's not going to temple anytime soon. But she certainly enjoyed meeting me.
Stugotz
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
I think just making sure we're not.
Stugotz
Breeding anti Semites, you know, with bad experiences.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, it's the opposite.
Stugotz
Pro Semites.
Dan Le Batard
I think we're exactly. We're breeding love.
Stugotz
Is this Sarah that went on to do, like, the challenge and stuff?
Dan Le Batard
Yes.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
You've heard of her?
Stugotz
I have.
Dan Le Batard
She ran around the world with me.
Jeremy
You've clearly seen a lot of her. Her work, you know, but more than Don Mattingly.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, well, wait, do you want.
Stugotz
No one's Johnny Tebow. Get out of here, Billy.
Dan Le Batard
You want an intro?
Stugotz
No, no, no, we're good.
Jeremy
It seems like the opposite.
Stugotz
Yeah, no, I'm fine.
Dan Le Batard
Wait, he does. I think it feels like I want to do a shittach here.
Stugotz
A who?
Dan Le Batard
A shiddock.
Jessica
What is that, Yiddish?
Dan Le Batard
Yes.
Jessica
You want to translate that to English?
Dan Le Batard
It's a meeting I want to do. Some sort of connection.
Stugotz
I don't like meeting my heroes. And Sarah I would consider a hero at this point.
Dan Le Batard
They just let you down.
Jessica
Never meet your heroes.
Stugotz
Yeah. You know, I could always aspire and think, oh, what would Sarah do? But if I meet Sarah, then I know what she would do. And maybe I wouldn't agree. Like, I was finding out Sarah was here the whole time behind the scenes, pre Survivor, trying to communicate with you illegally. So, I mean, is that the kind of person I want enforcing the law? I don't know about to take shots at her as a police officer.
Dan Le Batard
Officer.
Stugotz
Thank you for your service, Sarah. But, you know, just something to think about. If we're willing to bend the rules of Survivor, what other laws are we willing to bend the rules on?
Dan Le Batard
You're willing to lie and survive even if you're not a liar. You have to. It's part of the game. You have to pretend you're something you're not. I think we're all familiar with that, aren't we? Not really. It's sort of like imposter syndrome. To the 10th degree, isn't it?
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Mike Ryan
Folks, it's Mike Ryan and do you know that Miller Lite has basically been a partner of this show for almost 20 years? And as we celebrate 50 years of Miller Lite, that means for a large chunk of it. And look, I didn't go to school for math, but I'm pretty sure that's like 80% of the time that Miller Lite's been existing. They've been with our show and I'm so grateful for it because we truly believe this. If you listen to us back in our radio days, throughout our times in national radio, to the pirate face to now. You know that Miller Lite has been a huge supporter of ours and I've always been a huge supporter of Miller Lite. Why? Because it's got taste. You know, you can depend on a great beer trusted by beer lovers for 50 years. Miller Lite Great Taste. 96 calories go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
Dan Le Batard
Don Lee oh, I like firing people. So I, I, I take the opportunity to fire whenever I possibly can because I can use it as a learning experience for them and try to help them out and try to point out what they did wrong. But case the the employee was enough levels below where I was that I did not do the firing, but I had it done within moments of discovery. I'm just like, firing people.
Billy Corben
It's just absurd. It's absurd.
Dan Le Batard
Sts I'm talking about people who I fire, who deserve it, who have done something that actively requires me to fire them. It is my unadulterated pleasure to do so.
Stugotz
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
Dan Le Batard
I was thinking about Wayne Gretzky being forced to go to all of Ovechkin's games. Did you watch? Please tell me you watched Gretzky present Ovechkin and shake his hand and give the thumbs up. Please tell me that I'm not the only one who saw Wayne Gretzky with his smile.
Jeremy
He might be.
Stugotz
No, I was very locked in on what day was it? Friday, I think it was when he scored the two goals and he was going for the third. And then he didn't want to go in because he didn't want an empty net. But then he went in and they were just feeding him the puck and I don't know. Spencer Knight all of a sudden. Who down here? Notoriously Spencer Knight. Thank you for your service. But Spencer Knight all of a sudden decided he wanted to play goalie when Ovechkin was going for number three on him for the night and just wouldn't let him do it at home for whatever reason. So he has to then go and do it against the islanders. Poor Wayne Gretzky was there and he was following him. That's like Roger Maris family, except the opposite, right? Because the Maris family, let's be real, you're the mayor's family of one thing. Just that record, right? And they'll try you out. They trotted you out when it was Mark McGuire and it was Sammy SOS and we thought, okay, fine, we're every.
Billy Corben
Couple of days we don't have to.
Stugotz
See Roger Maris son anymore. Finally, we're done with that guy, right? And then Aaron Judge is going to break the AL home run record and said, oh, what do we do to celebrate this? Let's bring the Marist boys out again. So Maris, his son is there and he's in Toronto, and he's going around the world on this tour again, following the home run chase. Just to have someone spoil his father's legacy. It's really cruel what they do to the Marist family. They like it because it's, you know, relevance for them, but it's really like, let's come here and watch someone ruin your daddy's legacy and everything that he's known for.
Dan Le Batard
You think that Gretzky was thrilled to be at the Island?
Stugotz
Oh, not at all.
Billy Corben
No.
Dan Le Batard
Definitely not at all despondent. And you could tell with the smile. Now, he may have been three sheets to the wind. However you want to say it, that's not irresponsible journalism. It is personal experience.
Stugotz
He's a lush.
Dan Le Batard
He enjoys a cocktail from time to time. He's the great one.
Jessica
He's got his own wine label in Canada.
Dan Le Batard
Think about what he does. He's. He's in the business of being Wayne Gretzky. It's an entire business every day. You can't escape yourself. You are who you are. And his business is being the great one. And so he's there. Janet Jones, who I. If you know who that is, his wife.
Jeremy
Is he just a great one now?
Dan Le Batard
He's still the great one to.
Jessica
Well, he still has the assistant points record, which is unbreakable.
Dan Le Batard
The. The assist record is unbreakable. 1963 assists. Wayne Gretzky has, and I believe second place right now. Active, I think, is also Crosby, and I think it's down at like a thousand.
Billy Corben
1060.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, it's.
Billy Corben
That's crazy.
Dan Le Batard
900 assists.
Jeremy
Tell me when that record's broken, then I'm. Goals things cool. But.
Jessica
Well, Gretzky has more assists than the rest of the league in history has points, so there's that. That's unbreakable.
Dan Le Batard
I think you're. I think you're the. If you're that, don't you stay the great one.
Stugotz
Do you think that he, like, regrets some of those assists now? Like, after his goal record goes down, he's like, I should have been a little more selfish. Like, I really like.
Billy Corben
Yeah, he had a spare.
Stugotz
Exactly right.
Billy Corben
700 of.
Stugotz
Come on, Wayne. Put the puck in the back of the net.
Billy Corben
For that matter, in terms of assists, he has what he has 1963. The most points otherwise is 1921. So he had, like 42 assists. To spare. That could have been goals. And who knows? What if Ovechkin, you know, tweaks something in the next 40 goals and then all of a sudden he could have been the goals leader as well.
Dan Le Batard
I think Ovechkin's retiring. I thought that's true in the record and he's done now. I don't think he's coming back.
Billy Corben
So even more, even more to say that Wayne Gretzky really should have been more selfish and turned 40 of those assists into goals. Even, even, honestly, even if, if, if there would have been 40 attempts there and even 20 of them could have been goals. Right? Maybe, yeah. 20 fewer points on his career, but still leading in assists, leading in goals, and he never has to worry about the Sovechkin guy. What a mistake.
Dan Le Batard
I'm trying to imagine how that would go with Gretzky, who took more pride, I believe, in his assists than his goals and still would have been the.
Billy Corben
Leading assist man of all time. I'm just saying he had an opportunity to set himself up for some more long term success, guarantee the great one, and here he is. You know, it's. He's not the great one. In terms of goal scoring, I think.
Dan Le Batard
When you lose this record and, and this is, this can be put on the pole by Juju. Please. When you lose the record for all time goals, do you go from the to A? I don't, I don't think that that is the threshold. But I don't want to ruin the poll because people may disagree with me and, but don't do it just for disagreeing. Jessica, when you fill out the poll, like, don't just say, don't worry, I'll.
Jeremy
Vote with my heart.
Dan Le Batard
I want you to vote with your conscience.
Jeremy
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
With your belief system. I'm gonna stick with D. Just give me a hint. Jessica, which way are you going? Give me a hint.
Jeremy
My vote's private to me.
Dan Le Batard
My vote, my choice is that you're never gonna tell me what you voted.
Jeremy
No, never.
Dan Le Batard
I'm just gonna have to guess. Yeah, maybe I'll text you tonight before 1:47 and just see what you voted.
Jeremy
How many hours before 1:47?
Dan Le Batard
Well, given what time you go to bed, it's gonna have to be around six hours.
Jeremy
I might be eating dinner. Probably not gonna text you back if I'm eating dinner. I'm probably going to get ready for bed, put my jammies on.
Dan Le Batard
So it's got to be eight hours before.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Or are you now just, hey, leave it, leave it at work. If you don't get to me by the time we leave work. Then don't bother me.
Jeremy
Why don't you ask me the next time we see each other in person how I voted and I'll be honest.
Dan Le Batard
Maybe tomorrow morning.
Jeremy
I'm not on the schedule tomorrow, so.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, no, I can't text you, though.
Jeremy
I don't know.
Dan Le Batard
You always have an answer. Always have an answer.
Billy Corben
If you can get her, get her a text. What time's your, like, afternoon nap? Maybe if you fit in a text before that.
Jeremy
Like 5:00.
Stugotz
What's a good text window? You have a 5:00 nap.
Jeremy
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
That's impossible.
Stugotz
What time do you wake up in the morning? No, from your nap?
Jeremy
Like 5, 40.
Stugotz
And it doesn't make you, like, more energized at night? It'd be harder for me to sleep if I took a nap.
Jeremy
45 minutes is nothing like a rock.
Stugotz
Really?
Jeremy
Yes.
Stugotz
Oh, man.
Jeremy
I could nap seven hours and still sleep nine.
Stugotz
What a gift. Cherish that as long as you have it.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, I don't. First of all, I think that's hyperbole. I doubt that you could nap seven and sleep nine. That would be 16 hours a day of sleep, like unaided, no drinks, no Ambien, just straight up.
Jeremy
I've never taken Ambien.
Dan Le Batard
Ooh, you should try it. You may like it. I mean, not if you can give 16 large. I think that everyone needs to tell me there. I think that's the right thing. I'm going to actually make that as part of my thing with metal arc. I would like a window. Give me your window. Everyone has a different schedule. I wouldn't have known that you nap at 5. I don't want to interrupt your nap.
Jeremy
Not every day.
Dan Le Batard
And I'm happy to actually follow that window. And I'm smart enough where I could actually have individual people like Billy. Do you put your kids to bed? Like it's seven.
Stugotz
So we start.
Dan Le Batard
Because you're tough to reach too.
Stugotz
I get back to you. Yes, I get back to you. But I have a difficult window. So it depends on having pickup and stuff like that. But bedtime usually starts. The process is like dinner, like 6ish. And then there's bath and there's bedtime and then it's usually like a process, like six to eight, 30 or nine, depending on how it goes. Yeah, it's a long process.
Dan Le Batard
That's a three hour process.
Stugotz
It's a tough process.
Dan Le Batard
Can I try to make that more efficient for you?
Stugotz
You want to come put my Kids to sleep. Be my guest.
Dan Le Batard
I'm doing how I put my kids to sleep. I had a.
Jeremy
You're just gonna give your kids Ambien?
Dan Le Batard
No, I didn't do that with my kids. No, I read them a book.
Jeremy
I was joking.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, good. Thank you. Because I listen with you and me, you never know. But my view of my kids sleeping. Sleep, to me, was the most important thing for my kids because I wanted. It was selfish. I wanted not to have to deal with them. So getting them on a schedule as quickly as possible was critical. And doing it the same way every night, no matter where you were, no matter what time zone. Because then their brain sort of understands that, okay, after bath, it's PJs. After PJs, it's one book. And then you beg for the second book. You say, goodnight, moon. Shut her down. Lights out. The biggest parenting mistake is when people let their kids control their nighttime routine. And then you end up without a nighttime routine. And then you're just screwed.
Stugotz
Gotta be honest, it feels like you're lecturing me on parenting.
Dan Le Batard
No, I'm saying my. I would never lecture anyone. No, I'm the opposite guy. Women do that a lot. I noticed when my kids.
Jessica
What does that mean?
Dan Le Batard
It means mothers would get together and they would sort of compare each other's kids routines and what they were doing and making judgments on food. When I got together with guy friends, we never did that. We just talked about, when are we released from duty? Like, what time do your kids go to bed that you can then be free and do they stay asleep? So it's not women. Men. It's not a sex thing. It's just who's responsible. I loved. I was the diaper guy in my household. Oh, I did all the diapers.
Jessica
Dealing with shit, huh?
Dan Le Batard
I did. I didn't mind it. I did not. It's the weirdest thing. I did not mind it.
Jeremy
My text window for you just got a little smaller.
Dan Le Batard
Smaller than two minutes? Like, is it down to one?
Jeremy
You can text me between 7:00am when I'm leaving for work and let's say 4:30.
Dan Le Batard
Wow, that's a huge window.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Jeremy
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
7:00Am to 4:30. I thought you were going to say working hours. You can text me from 7:01 to 7:03.
Jeremy
You know what?
Billy Corben
You're right.
Jeremy
That's better. PM.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, I thought you meant AM.
Jeremy
Okay.
Jessica
Small crack in that window, man.
Dan Le Batard
I'm trying to just get some sort of info.
Jeremy
That's why I like using never text me at 1:47.
Dan Le Batard
Do you use military time? Am I the only one who does that?
Jeremy
Of course not.
Dan Le Batard
I. I exclusively imagine us booking guests.
Jeremy
And we're like, yeah, 6, 1600 works well for Dan.
Dan Le Batard
I think it's very clear because we just had a miscommunication right now. You said 701. If you had said 1901, then there's no problem. I know you meant nighttime.
Jeremy
Okay, next time I'll. I'll definitely clarify semantics.
Stugotz
Well, it seems like her window is not going to 12 anyways. So let's just assume if she says.
Dan Le Batard
Seven at 7am because, like, at 13:20, she's out OT.
Stugotz
Yeah, I think.
Dan Le Batard
Were you just doing the math, Billy?
Stugotz
1300 she's done.
Dan Le Batard
So I just watch you doing the math. 1:20pm That's 1:20.
Jeremy
Well, that's if I take an early nap. 13:01. Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Can I give you the military code? The trick, it's very easy. Just subtract 12 from whatever number above 12 and that's what it is. So when we say 1830, 18 minus 12 is 6. That's 6:30pm Just subtract 12 from the number and then you can do military time.
Jessica
Yeah. It's simple.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, that is very simple.
Jeremy
Thank you for explaining that to us.
Billy Corben
Thank you.
Dan Le Batard
You're welcome.
Stugotz
Are the rabbits gonna be like, what kind of disease do the rabbits have to have for us to sacrifice them to the dogs?
Jeremy
If rabbits have a disease, the dogs are gonna get the disease if they ingest the rabbits. That's why you can't feed them sick rabbits.
Stugotz
Hmm.
Dan Le Batard
I think it's not a disease, Billy. I think they're just ready to die. They've lived a full life.
Jessica
It's old age.
Stugotz
Did I tell you how old do rabbits live?
Jeremy
They live pretty longer than you think.
Dan Le Batard
I would assume the over under for a rabbit's life is going to be 18 years.
Jeremy
If I had to, I don't think it's that long.
Dan Le Batard
So you're going under 18?
Jeremy
Yes.
Stugotz
I'm seeing domestic rabbits, like 8 to 12 on once.
Dan Le Batard
What's the under?
Billy Corben
My wife owned a rabbit that they got at the fair when she was in middle school in St. Augustine, where it was. They played one of those games where you throw rings onto a bottle. And at the end of it, they were giving out these little bunnies, which is crazy, of course, and totally unauthorized. And it was supposed to be a tiny little bunny, and then it grew into a giant rabbit that was in their backyard for about a decade. It lived to about a decade, which is pretty crazy. Because you would think if you got a little tiny rabbit from a fair, that certainly that was going to be an unhealthy rabbit. Turned out to be a very healthy rabbit.
Dan Le Batard
It's like the carnival fish.
Billy Corben
Yeah. His name was Benny.
Dan Le Batard
The ping pong balls that you put in the things and you did just like that. And generally it dies in the bag, right? Yeah.
Jeremy
We had a carnival fish for five years.
Dan Le Batard
I had. What was your fish's name?
Jeremy
Cleopatra.
Dan Le Batard
Mine was Herman. Wow.
Stugotz
Herman.
Dan Le Batard
I named my carnival fist Herman.
Billy Corben
The carnival fist.
Dan Le Batard
He didn't die. He made it all the way through my middle school. It was insane.
Jeremy
Your parents were just replacing it.
Dan Le Batard
I actually thought about that and I did that with my kids. With a gerbil. Gerbil died. Buried the gerbil. Replaced the gerbil.
Jeremy
Did they notice?
Dan Le Batard
Never noticed one. Nothing. Us.
Jeremy
So you are a liar.
Dan Le Batard
You're welcome.
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Dan Le Batard
Should just be saying thank you for my gerbil. And by the way, when the gerbil's sick, you just flush it.
Billy Corben
No.
Dan Le Batard
What else do you do?
Mike Ryan
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Dan Le Batard
Smirnoff rules.
Billy Corben
Smirnoff rules.
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz Episode: Local Hour: The Loneliness of Not Sleeping Release Date: April 7, 2025
In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, recorded from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz delve into a myriad of topics ranging from personal anecdotes about sleeplessness and communication challenges to in-depth discussions on sports legends and reality TV experiences. The lively banter among the hosts, along with contributions from Jeremy, Billy Corben, and Jessica, makes for an engaging and multifaceted conversation.
Dan Le Batard opens the episode by sharing his recent struggles with insomnia. He reflects on the solitude that comes with sleepless nights, pondering who to reach out to for a late-night conversation.
As Dan attempts to contact friends like Roy, Billy, Jess, and Jeremy, he humorously admits to ultimately swallowing his phone instead of sending texts.
The conversation shifts to the hosts discussing their preferred modes of communication. Jessica and Jeremy reveal their disdain for unsolicited late-night texts, emphasizing a preference for direct phone calls.
Dan shares his ongoing battle to reduce late-night texting habits, encouraged by his friends to improve his communication etiquette.
This segment highlights the diverse communication styles among the hosts and their humorous attempts to navigate each other's boundaries.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to a passionate discussion about hockey legends Wayne Gretzky and Alex Ovechkin. Dan expresses his admiration for Gretzky's seemingly unbreakable records and marvels at Ovechkin's pursuit to surpass them.
The hosts speculate on whether Sidney Crosby could be the next active player to challenge Ovechkin's records, debating the feasibility given Crosby's age and performance trajectory.
They also discuss the strategic implications for the Washington Capitals as they vie for the Stanley Cup, considering how Ovechkin's pursuit of records intertwines with team objectives.
Dan recounts his time as a participant in the reality TV show Survivor, sharing humorous and insightful stories about the challenges of the competition and the friendships formed under extreme conditions.
He highlights the intense environment of Survivor and the lengths contestants go to communicate and strategize, even referencing specific interactions with fellow contestant Sarah Lacina.
The hosts engage in a lighthearted yet critical discussion about dog racing and gambling practices. Dan imagines a scenario where real rabbits are used to motivate racing dogs, blending humor with a touch of dark satire.
Billy Corben adds a personal anecdote about a childhood carnival game involving a rabbit, further illustrating the hosts' whimsical takes on animal racing traditions.
Shifting gears, Dan delves into parenting strategies, specifically focusing on establishing consistent sleep routines for children. He emphasizes the importance of structure and discipline in ensuring children develop healthy sleep habits.
Stugotz and Jeremy contribute by sharing their own experiences and challenges with parenting, leading to a relatable and heartfelt discussion about raising children.
The conversation returns to sports as the hosts discuss Wayne Gretzky's presence at Alex Ovechkin's games, analyzing Gretzky’s iconic status and his enduring influence on the sport.
They debate Gretzky's assist records, which Dan argues are "untouchable," and ponder the long-term implications for upcoming players striving to emulate or surpass his achievements.
As the episode wraps up, the hosts engage in playful exchanges about communication mishaps and share nostalgic stories from their childhoods, such as carnival games and memorable pets.
The episode concludes with a humorous take on consistent communication strategies and a final nod to the enduring legacy of sports icons like Gretzky.
This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz masterfully intertwines personal anecdotes with in-depth sports analysis, all underscored by the hosts' trademark humor and camaraderie. From the introspective moments of sleeplessness to the spirited debates about hockey legends and reality TV experiences, the show offers listeners a comprehensive and entertaining journey through the diverse interests of its hosts.