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Billy Corben
I'm getting there. I call it progress.
Dan Le Batard
How are you?
Stugotz
Frazzled.
Dan Le Batard
You were here as early as you've ever been before. We were having a pre show meeting and you were just sitting in that chair for like an hour. But he was locked in on something.
Billy Corben
You know what I'm doing pre. I'm doing Miami Herald work.
Dan Le Batard
Tying up loose ends.
Billy Corben
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
This is a big thing we do our podcast and my dad, anytime, we're like, dad, you ready to go and record? I gotta tie up some loose ends first. Never know what that means.
Billy Corben
Everybody's got loose ends.
Dan Le Batard
Yep.
Billy Corben
You know, you gotta cross your t's and dot your I's.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Billy Corben
By the way, it would have been nice of your mother to tell me that there's apparently no school today. So I breeze down here. It usually takes me an hour and 20 minutes. I breeze down here in like 45 minutes.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah, you were here early.
Greg Cody
It's.
Roy Bellamy
I'm bummed to hear that that upset you.
Dan Le Batard
Did she tell you the weather?
Billy Corben
I did. I asked her the weather.
Dan Le Batard
Right.
Greg Cody
Guys, I'm amazed by this. Earlene is his Internet and his ways and he cannot. Did you just hear what happened? He blamed his wife for not knowing that there wasn't going to be traffic on his way to work. She doesn't drive this way.
Billy Corben
Well, she knew, I think, that there was no school today because she keeps track of all that even though we haven't had students in School for 12 years. But she neglected to tell me. Look, she's not perfect, you know, She's a wonderful woman. You know. Does she have shortcomings like this morning? Of course.
Stugotz
Was Chris in high school at 25?
Billy Corben
No, but he. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. He might have still been trying to.
Greg Cody
Billy, if you think Chris isn't going to be the same overgrown toddler that his father is. And if you think Chris.
Dan Le Batard
I checked the weather.
Billy Corben
I checked the weather, too. I opened the back door.
Dan Le Batard
That's how you do it.
Roy Bellamy
I noticed that you got short sleeves. Is it a good arm week?
Billy Corben
It's a better arm day than I was having last week.
Dan Le Batard
Wow, they look great.
Roy Bellamy
Well, that's great to hear, because today is a huge day. Not just for you and your improving arm health, but friends, Stu Gots. It's a massive day.
Greg Cody
Oh, my God.
Roy Bellamy
And I'm talking because I walked outside and it was clear as day. Yeah, it's a good whistling day.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, it is.
Roy Bellamy
The weather outside is perfect.
Dan Le Batard
Yes.
Roy Bellamy
Whistling weather.
Dan Le Batard
Yes, it is. At a good smoking weather as well. Let me try a whistle out here. Little dry. Mouth's a little dry.
Greg Cody
I think we need to go outdoors. I think I need.
Dan Le Batard
We'll have a heater too, so that would be nice. I think Izzy taught me. Hold on. Hear it?
Greg Cody
Not bad.
Billy Corben
Barely.
Dan Le Batard
From the thr.
Stugotz
Lick your lips.
Dan Le Batard
From the bottom, he said.
Greg Cody
What do you say is. He said from the bottom, baby. I think that's AO now. Oh, is it not a.
Roy Bellamy
Wait, there it is.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. All right.
Greg Cody
Holy shit. What a giant day. One of the biggest days in show history. I can't believe the celebration we're about to unleash upon America.
Stugotz
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stuttgarts podcast.
Roy Bellamy
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Stugotz
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Roy Bellamy
The Crown is yours.
Greg Cody
Imagine my surprise and delight to see that this day has arrived.
Dan Le Batard
Amazing.
Greg Cody
Stu Gotz is an author.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. And Stu got a best selling author before you.
Greg Cody
He is an author before me. That was very aggressive the way you did that to me, Roy. It was a day to celebrate Stugotson. You immediately came after me. You come into the show three seconds before it starts. You come in and you point a finger at me. I'm trying to celebrate Stuganson on his big day and all you do is throw in my face that he's an author before I am.
Dan Stanzik
No, I'm angry about this, Dan. Like, you need to write a book. What legitimately need. Don't write a book. That needs to be a goal of yours before your career ends is to get this book out here. But congratulations to gods.
Dan Le Batard
Thank you, Roy.
Greg Cody
Okay, not about me. Not about me. Today it's about Stugotts. Because we've arrived at the day and Roy, I appreciate it.
Dan Le Batard
Please, right?
Greg Cody
I mean, please help me build the company so I have time to write a book.
Dan Le Batard
You got it.
Stugotz
You don't need to write a book, Dan. You're on the air four hours every day. What else do you have to say?
Dan Le Batard
I mean, you've written enough forwards at this point. It could be a book, right?
Billy Corben
If you need me to ghost write the book for you, Dan, just let me know.
Dan Le Batard
I'm dominating the book game right now. I prefer you out of it.
Greg Cody
I mean, listen, Stu Gotz is about to crush this because I can't believe that the day that Stugatz finishes something, because we have arrived at the publishing of Stugatz's personal record book, that what will immediately happen at this point in his career that I didn't think could have more conquering and mystery and wonder in it as he climbed to the top of media. I think Stugatz can legitimately become a New York Times best selling author because of the way this book is already selling and it wasn't on sale until right now. For real. Where we launch this book into the sky and demand that America makes Stugatz a best seller. And I'm gonna tell you, Chris, coming in here, seeing your father not know that there was no school and getting here too quick through traffic, he was not enjoying as Stugatz talked about some of the numbers coming in on his book. And he thought to himself, my books didn't do quite that well and his hasn't gone on sale yet. For real? Not for real. Well, I saw you sitting for an hour in the jealousy.
Roy Bellamy
This is vintage Dan. He's trying to pit the two authors of books against one another to deflect away from what Roy called him out on.
Dan Le Batard
I gotta tell you, Greg has been nothing but supportive, both to me, the book. And we should thank Dan Stanzik as well, because Dan Stanzic really wrote this book. He wrote it along with me and many, many others. And I thank all of them because we all did.
Greg Cody
We all wrote it for you, Dan.
Dan Le Batard
Your forward was fantastic. Greg, your chapter was amazing. Greg and I are doing a book signing together.
Billy Corben
Yes, we are.
Dan Le Batard
You will not divide us, okay? We are two authors who are unified. We are going to do a book signing together in Miami in a couple of weeks. How about that?
Roy Bellamy
It's. I'm not crazy about this ambiguous Timeline. You better be careful.
Billy Corben
I'm super excited about that. Will be a couple of authors just sitting around cutting it up.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, baby.
Stugotz
I couldn't help but notice when I tried to get the book on audible that it said delayed.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, that's the audio version of it. Yep.
Roy Bellamy
Who's recording the audio version? Has it been recorded?
Dan Le Batard
I am. And what I decided by the way, halfway through recording the audio book. Now I did the entire thing.
Roy Bellamy
But wait, wait, wait, hold on. You've recorded this? It's done?
Dan Le Batard
Yes.
Roy Bellamy
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
Yes.
Roy Bellamy
Because that was one of my chief concerns.
Greg Cody
Well, wait, wait, let me just. Because I've got a little more information before you go into the full on grift of this.
Dan Le Batard
Sure. I was just going to say in the spirit of this show, I told the director of the audiobook to save all the outtakes.
Greg Cody
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
And there are plenty.
Greg Cody
But before we get to selling the audiobook, which will be a different time of sales than what is being sold today. The big day when we're merely trying to get to Stugott's New York Times bestselling author. Cuz the audiobook will be a whole different kind of Stugatz selling out.
Stugotz
But it's not supposed to be. They're supposed to be out at the same time, if I understand books correctly.
Greg Cody
Okay. But over the last few weeks Stugotz has been really grinding. He goes home and he. And he has been doing this audiobook. But while he was doing it, I was telling him that I thought that it would might be better if he had Cody Reid his own version. And then I believe Stugotts had the idea it would be fun to do show within the audio book, which is just going to give more work for you guys. Just so that you know this ends in more work for you guys.
Dan Le Batard
Really. I wasn't satisfied with what it was I was doing and so I said there's a better way to dress this thing up. And so whether it's, you know, I have top fives in there, breaking those up with a sounder going to Chris, but you never actually hear from Chris. And just things I think would make the audience enjoy it a bit more than just me reading into a microphone.
Roy Bellamy
That's all audio books. It's pretty much just dudes reading.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. But I want to change that. I love his train of thought though. I need to change this up top five. I want it to be top five in the book.
Stugotz
But you had everyone write the book for you. Why don't you just have the people read what they Wrote and then you don't have to read anything.
Dan Le Batard
I've asked enough of those people. They have done enough for me. I mean, seriously, they have. And the top fives. I put it the way we did. The book is Stantz. Except me. The book. And I sent back a different book. That's what we did. Because I needed the audience to feel like I actually contributed something to the book. And so we tried to put it more into my. My personality. I weaved it.
Stugotz
The whole thing is supposed to be your personality.
Dan Le Batard
It's a book like he is. He is crushing Dion waiters in one chapter. And I decide to do top five athletes that connote something you would find in a restaurant. That's not how I put that in the rare book. The rare book.
Stugotz
Did you read any of this book?
Dan Le Batard
Bestseller. Yeah, I had to for the audio.
Stugotz
I'd love to hear from Stanzig on this experience.
Greg Cody
Let's talk to him. Let's interview Stanzig.
Roy Bellamy
That's not how audiobooks are supposed to be.
Dan Le Batard
I was forced to.
Roy Bellamy
You're supposed to.
Dan Le Batard
It's a good book.
Roy Bellamy
You're supposed to have faith that the audiobook is the book.
Greg Cody
So Greg Cody worked very hard on his two books.
Billy Corben
Three books. But I worked hard on two of them. You're right. One of them actually.
Greg Cody
The two that have sold very well because they were pushed through this show back in my day. Which was released just recently.
Billy Corben
Yep.
Greg Cody
New book and Pride of a Lion, which you did with Ron McGill. Yeah, those sold. Our audience is crazy, man. It really is. And I couldn't be. We couldn't be more grateful for it. But they. They sell in the publishing industry thousands and thousands of books. And yours did very well. But what Stugatz is doing right now is off the charts. And he hasn't really gotten started yet. And he's farmed out all the work. He did it in the laziest way possible. I will tell you that I was insulted about 17 times in how it is that I had to write that forward.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Greg Cody
And I don't think Stugott ever read it. He just said it was long.
Dan Le Batard
It was hard to get through, I guess.
Billy Corben
Yeah. You're a long forward writer.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. I mean, listen, I appreciate it, man, because I needed it. And you did it and you did it. Well, I have not read it, but it was hard to get.
Greg Cody
He. I got back edits from Stugotts. Billy, you'll love this. This is what I got back from Stanzig. More of a toast than a roast. After he had told me, just crush me.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Greg Cody
So I'd already written something that was just crushing him.
Dan Le Batard
You crushed me.
Greg Cody
And then he. He doesn't read it. And I have to rewrite it because Stanzig. I got instructions.
Dan Le Batard
I did some edits as well.
Stugotz
How mean was it?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. Yeah.
Greg Cody
Well, I thought it was too mean. I was reaching out to Stugotts, who hadn't read it. And I'm saying, I think this is too mean. I don't think this is. This is what should be at the front of this book. I think this needs to be soft. But you told me to crush you.
Dan Le Batard
It's a great way to receive a forward from a guy you've been doing a show with that you consider to be a friend for the last 20 years. He hands me something and he says, make sure you read this. More importantly, make sure Abby's okay with this. I'm like, oh, boy.
Stugotz
Oh, Dan, what did you do?
Greg Cody
I did what God assigned me to do. After he asked Wilburn to do it or after he asked me to get Will Bond to do it?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. What happened with that?
Greg Cody
He ghosted me. Now he's ghosted both of us. You cost me that friendship, too.
Dan Le Batard
I'm sorry.
Dan Stanzik
No, you're not.
Dan Le Batard
No, I am. I don't want to cost any friendships.
Stugotz
If you lose a friendship with Wilburn. Did you lose a friendship?
Greg Cody
Put it on the poll, please. Juju at Levitar show. If you lose a friendship with Will Bond. Did you really lose a friendship at Lebanon Show. There is a ton to talk about today, and we will continue the launching of the book over the course of the day. But I am ready to announce something, Billy, that I think everyone here will be moved by. And it won't be hard to get Greg Cody to rally at my side and run into the breach. The Miami Dolphins are about to play a show me something game.
Dan Le Batard
Wow.
Greg Cody
And if they win that game on the road, I will allow everyone here to hope. I will stop forbidding hope, and I will simply allow everyone here to hope freely and without encumbrance. You can hope that The Miami Dolphins, a.500 team, will do something in the playoffs.
Dan Le Batard
What if we're already hoping, though?
Greg Cody
No, you're not allowed to hope yet.
Dan Le Batard
Until you give us permission.
Greg Cody
Michelle, you win at Green Bay because you got to show me something.
Dan Le Batard
Okay. Show you something.
Greg Cody
You got to show me. This is a show me something game.
Dan Le Batard
I like it. Yes.
Greg Cody
You haven't beaten anybody.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, well, this is better. I'm loving this. Whatever you're Giving off right now about the Dolphins. I love it. Much better.
Dan Stanzik
No, man, hope is a dangerous thing. Then like, I don't think I can do it. I, I, I can't.
Stugotz
Hope in general or just dolphins related?
Dan Stanzik
Just dolphins related. Oh, no, no. It's too dangerous. Can't do it.
Dan Le Batard
Belly?
Stugotz
Yes, Dan? I, I learned yesterday you need to be very careful when you're talking about the Dolphins. Dolphins fans are very mad at me. Very mad.
Greg Cody
It wasn't you who said it. It wasn't you who said it. It was that other voice that said it. It wasn't you who said it. Did you hear what the other voice said the other voice said yesterday? I don't want to say it, but in these games, this is where Tua gets hurt late at night when everyone's watching. It wasn't Billy. It was another voice.
Billy Corben
Okay?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Greg Cody
And people got mad at him because he was just, he was whispering. It's your subconscious talking, immoral football fan. I'm among you. I live among you. I'm watching a guy who is at more at risk for a concussion than anyone in sports that we'll talk about. The single, the center of all the dolphin hope is a brain that will be talked about if it gets hurt again more than any other brain in the sports world existing.
Roy Bellamy
Which is crazy because like Denzel Ward has this same exact issue and no one knows about it because he's got two as a meat shield.
Stugotz
Chris Olave, too.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Billy Corben
I mean, there's players in the NFL who have had five, six concussions, but because they don't play a starting quarterback, we don't know about it. Tua played a completely healthy season just a year ago. It's fatalist thinking to go well. But what if he gets hurt? Chiefs fan could say that about Patrick Mahomes. Imagine if Mahomes breaks a leg. What's with the Chiefs then? You know, you could say that about the whole league.
Stugotz
That's a good point.
Dan Le Batard
But if Mahomes tore his ACL twice, you'd be more concerned about his knee moving forward to as had several concussions, so therefore you are more concerned about him.
Billy Corben
You know, I'm not concerned about Aaron Rodgers re injuring his Achilles. I'm concerned about Aaron Rodgers being 41 years old and not very good anymore.
Greg Cody
Billy, the storm you found yourself in yesterday was interesting to me because all that other voice was saying and it was near you, so I can understand how people would think it was you. All he was saying is the greatest fear of Dolphin fans. That's Only here because of the things that have happened in this game situation where you dare to hope. Oh, their offense looks great. Oh, I forgot. Their quarterback's brain is in narrative mushier than the rest. Like we're all doctors on CTE and he's more fragile than anyone in the sport. And we forget if they put together a three game win streak, well, we forget entirely. Oh, the offense looks good.
Stugotz
To clarify, Greg, I didn't say any of that stuff. What I said was. What I said was this might be Tua's biggest game. It sounds crazy, but it might be his biggest game because it's an opportunity for him to dispel a lot of the bad narratives around him. Can't do it in the cold, can't do it against a good team, can't do it in prime time, all of those things. And then somewhere, you know, off to the side, someone said, well, this is, you know, historically when these concussions seem to happen. But like, again, I didn't say it. And I would caution you guys to go down that path as well. And I would also say, why do.
Roy Bellamy
You say you didn't say you said it, but you said it in a different.
Greg Cody
It wasn't.
Roy Bellamy
It was very clear.
Dan Le Batard
Somebody else, someone else, somebody else.
Greg Cody
It wasn't him.
Stugotz
I'm not certain. So the point is this. I would caution you guys not to go down that path because it is not a pathology.
Dan Le Batard
The path, the path.
Greg Cody
You said even, not him.
Roy Bellamy
Why do you do the like?
Stugotz
I'm not.
Roy Bellamy
You're insinuating that we're lying.
Stugotz
There was selective editing. I would say we're context.
Roy Bellamy
We were alive.
Stugotz
There was context. Yeah. No, but the problem is you were.
Dan Le Batard
Right next to him.
Stugotz
A lot of people.
Roy Bellamy
I saw the words come out of his mouth, but he just muffled them.
Stugotz
No, no.
Roy Bellamy
You know, he's going to say fallacies.
Dan Le Batard
No, also it's give him a chance.
Stugotz
This is a situation. A lot of people received that via social media. And I will say there was some selective clipping and I understand the game, I understand how this works. We put out the spiciest things out there, lacking full context and full, you know, reasoning where I specifically said, I'm rooting for Tua to succeed, I want him to succeed. However, some people may be worried about the situation. All of that absent. And this takes me down a sad path that I remember one super bowl week two years ago when we were in Arizona where a similar thing happened with this very same Tua in an interview where a question that I ask him you know, ingest was replayed, lacking certain context, where the video that went out that upset the Dolphins fans everywhere was when I asked to ingest in jest in response to another question that was asked previously when I asked to quote, should Mike McDaniel be charged with your murder? And they did not like that question at all. And they said, this is such bad form and blah, blah, blah. But had you, had you gotten the full context, you would have known that that was me trying to lighten the mood because we went to Concussion Town with Dan and the wrestler right before that. So I was trying to kind of lighten the mood and move away from that.
Roy Bellamy
Now, you're often a victim of things being out of context.
Greg Cody
Thank you.
Stugotz
Finally, you get it.
Roy Bellamy
And it oddly happens with starting quarterbacks inside the AFC East.
Stugotz
No, no, no. And by the way, lacking also in the is it's a big game against a team which Dolphins fans, forgive me on the front end for saying this, a team that's arguably better than you. Forgive me. Arguably better than you. And then in those instances, Tua sometimes tries to make things happen that aren't necessarily there. And that's when he gets in trouble. He tries to extend a play. He tries to dive head first for first down. Like, that's when things get in trouble. Forgive me, I just. Someone mentioned it and I thought, you know what? Maybe, maybe that's something. That's, that's a fear. It's something to be worried about concern. But again, this is a great opportunity to dispel a lot of this. That's all that was said yesterday.
Roy Bellamy
I think I've heard some murmurs, worried that playing this opponent on a holiday usually also means Tua gets a concussion.
Stugotz
I haven't heard such things.
Greg Cody
I find everything around him to be wildly interesting because he's the epicenter stugatz of how that position matters, how that sport matters, our conundrum at the crossroads between, wow, we really like violence. Not that much. And should he retire? And I'm sitting next to a longtime columnist I accused of being a homer the last time he was in here. And we enraged him by having his wife come on and say, yeah, he roots for the Dolphins. He has said the Dolphins were going to win the super bowl last year. Yep, Tua is at the center of all of that hope. He has been very protective of Tua. And even he says, one more concussion on Thanksgiving night while America's watching and he needs to retire.
Billy Corben
No, I actually didn't say it quite that way. What I said was, I Think the next bad concussion, and there are different types of concussions. I think the next bad concussion will see him retire. I didn't say that he would need to. I always think it should be the player's decision. I never think it should be the media's decision or the fans decision or the team's decision.
Greg Cody
You said it would be a howling outcry for that career to end. If we have to watch if this. If America has to recoil at the horror of seeing on television. Wait, this is one of the guys. Guys I like. I'm gonna. Gonna keep seeing him spasm. Nah, man. Like this. I'm not okay with how all of.
Dan Le Batard
This feels, but this talk is ridiculous because I regret doing it the first time around with Tua, where I actually said he should retire. I don't want to watch him play football. And he quickly corrected all of us by saying, hey, this is up to me. Yeah, it's not up to you. This is up to me. It's up to me and my family, and it is. Tua loves playing football. Tua wants to be out on the football field. Tua realizes, I'm guessing there is a risk to him playing such a violent sport, but you know what? He is willing to risk all of that because he wants to be there with his teammates and play the sport that he loves.
Greg Cody
Until you.
Dan Le Batard
And I'm good with that.
Greg Cody
Okay, you're good with it now. Those two guys, I understand. You're good with it now.
Dan Le Batard
Damn it. He's the one who's going to get hurt, not us.
Greg Cody
I know, but you're good with it now. But when he says, till the death of me, and then you're faced with what happened with Demar Hamlin and we're canceling the Monday night game, and then all of a sudden, hushed tones fall over the proceedings, and we're less good with the choices that he made because we had to see the consequences of the choice that are made.
Dan Le Batard
But I'm not good with people making choices or thinking they have the power or authority to make choices on his behalf. He's a grown man.
Billy Corben
Demar Hamlin is still playing for the Buffalo Bills. Tua is still playing and as well as he ever has. Tua, in the last three or four games, has not just been pretty good. He's been great. He's been, like, best in the NFL great the last couple of games. And it's because he's.
Stugotz
He's.
Billy Corben
Look, he's much better this year in his progressions. When he threw that touchdown Pass to John who Smith. John who? Smith was his fourth option last year. He never gets to his fourth option. He's forcing it to Tyreek Hill or something. Tua's a smarter quarterback this year. I think he's safer other than that one play where he went after an interceptor.
Greg Cody
If I may though, Greg, to the point that the voice near Billy was making in situations where Tua is being asked to do a little more in a big game against Buffalo, against Cincinnati, when everybody's watching. I just started the show with this is a show me game. The last couple of games Tua has played, no one's seen them. Even though everybody watches the NFL, everyone watches this one. What Tua has done, I don't mean that as dismissively as it sounds, but Tua has played two games when all the other games were going on, and the Dolphins game wasn't one of the interesting ones. So what he's done the last two weeks, if I'm saying this is a show me game, it's against Jordan Love, the other guy who got money. The voice underneath Billy's breath was telling you these are the spots where he gets hurt trying to do a little too. A little too much in the open field.
Billy Corben
And what I would suggest is that when you're two and six, every game is a show me game. He's played three show me games in a row to get his team back into playoff hope, and he's won three in a row. And there should not be a presumption of the next concussion is right around the corner. You can have that fear and concern, but you can't assume it. And Tua doesn't and shouldn't. And if he plays the rest of the season healthy, as good as he has the past couple of weeks, they're going to. They're going to make Dolphin history by going from two and six to the playoffs.
Stugotz
This took a negative turn. Again. It's not what we were supposed to talk about. It was book day. Yeah, book day. And is a show me day. Excited. Thanksgiving day. Oh, my God. 8:00 Thanksgiving, Lambeau Field, Dolphins.
Dan Le Batard
Wow.
Stugotz
Packers.
Dan Le Batard
Exciting.
Stugotz
This one's great.
Dan Le Batard
Yep, it's a show me game.
Stugotz
People also got mad that I said that it's potentially the biggest game of his career. And then they started throwing out. The biggest game of his career was the one that he lost against the Chiefs last year. The biggest game of his career has won against the Bills. Biggest game in his career as a national champions.
Dan Le Batard
Those are all fair.
Stugotz
Yeah, no, I get it. But Moving forward. This is the biggest game of his career this week. Like, what's the big deal?
Greg Cody
When you were talking earlier, I didn't realize that you did deserve more context when you asked him to lighten the mood, should the Dolphins be charged with murder? Yeah, that's the proper way to respond to that.
Stugotz
That was an attempt to lighten you.
Greg Cody
Out after an interview that I derailed with terrible questions and you were trying to save. You fell on the sword on behalf of the show, and dolphin fans were furious with you, even though all you were trying to do was, in that one instance, legitimately help.
Stugotz
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't know that they were that mad until I was sitting at the airport, like, four hours later. I was like, let me check my phone, see what's going on. I was like, oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, his interviews for us and the day after that one, oh, no. I was like, guys, you don't understand. He signed my jersey after. He was okay. It was fine. He wasn't that mad. He canceled everything.
Dan Le Batard
I was like, oh, he canceled the entire tour. If you recall, though, we're fine. Because Tua does not remember that interview.
Greg Cody
Doesn't remember.
Stugotz
That's the function.
Greg Cody
That's the function. Hey, it's Roy.
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Greg Cody
Don LeBatard.
Billy Corben
Hey everybody. Not here or can't cover the phone.
Dan Le Batard
Leave a message.
Billy Corben
See?
Dan Stanzik
Doesn't that sound better everybody?
Greg Cody
No, it does not. It does not sound better. It sounds he is absolutely slurring as hey everybody. By the way, not surprising at all that he would answer the phone and think just everybody is there.
Dan Le Batard
It's only one person calling you.
Greg Cody
It's everybody. St. Guts. He's performing, baby. Anytime you put a mic on around him. Hey, everybody. Everybody.
Dan Le Batard
He was 19 miller lights deep when he recorded that.
Greg Cody
It's everyone calling everybody. He's doing a little show. A little show. Everything is good content. The Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody.
Dan Le Batard
Hey, everybody, this is the Dan Levar.
Stugotz
Show with the two gods.
Greg Cody
Dan Stanzik is right there. I see him. How do I describe him? Who got to the audience? He's your longtime producer and he's the actual author of this book, correct?
Dan Le Batard
Yes, he is the author of the book. He used to produce stupidity back when we were at espn. He is still at espn. He is a huge fan of the show. He produces Mina Kime's podcast right now, Adam Schefter's podcast as well.
Greg Cody
He's shaking his head no. He's.
Dan Le Batard
Well, maybe I got Mina Kimes wrong, but it doesn't matter. Our audience, because I am telling you right now, Dan, this book, I never wanted to write a book. Stanzik loves our show so much, loves the characters so much and he has a desire to write books. Stanzik wrote this book. And audience, if you are enjoying today and enjoying the books and enjoying putting us on the New York Times bestseller list and we're number one in a million different categories right now on Amazon, you have one person to thank and that person is Dan Stanzik.
Greg Cody
So it's more than that, though, because it was the hundreds of people that he recruited.
Dan Le Batard
Well, I did that. That was my contribution.
Greg Cody
All right. Anyway, no Stanza is shaking his head no. All right, Stanzik, what is true and what is not true here about what he has already presented?
G
What is he presented, Dan? I don't know. First time, a long time. Great to be with you.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Greg Cody
What he just Original crew today said.
Dan Le Batard
You like that, right? Original crew, Big fan of the show. I told you, Dan, to sell the.
Greg Cody
Book that we will make a bestseller. The audience will make the bestseller. But tell us about the experience of doing this with Stugach. You were shaking your head no. As if facts that weren't facts were coming out of his mouth.
G
Well, he didn't reach out to the 20 people that contributed to the book. I think he gave me contact information for about one or two of them. But I did all of the reaching out to all of them, Greg included. Greg has the emails to prove it.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, I do.
Greg Cody
Yeah, I can verify people this Made.
Dan Le Batard
The initial ask Danzig. Let's just start there. Who made the initial ask of Randy.
G
Scott and Field Gates? That was me.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, that was you. Those two were definitely you. Yeah, because I knew they were going to say yes. And you said, hey, I'll just reach out to them and take some of the. Some of the load off you. I appreciate.
Greg Cody
I don't think Stug wants everyone to see just entirely how lazy he was during this, but I'm going to do.
G
Shouldn't have me on then reach out.
Dan Le Batard
To Field Gates on Sunday mornings.
Greg Cody
I mean, well, Stanzik, Stug came on here and was. He really did every day was talking about how tired he was from writing this book. And as far as I could tell, it's just because he had to do three meetings.
G
There was a lot of meetings. I. I don't want to defend St. Gots too much, but he does deserve defense there. There were plenty of meetings. He was in a lot of those meetings, but he also had me in those meetings to provide the context that the publisher needed in those meetings. Yes, there was plenty of meetings. The work Stu Gotz has done has really been in the last few weeks, which is probably why some of the things are delayed. I would also like to say Stugatz has finally now read the book as he's been doing the audiobooks.
Dan Le Batard
I was forced to more information than.
G
He normally would be.
Dan Le Batard
You did a great job.
Stugotz
How is it?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, you did a great. It's great. I gotta tell you. It is. It's fantastic. I changed some things around. I sent it back to Stanzik, but he really did a good job. I mean, you really captured me. You did a tremendous. Some big words that I would have left out, but you really did a great job of capturing the essence of Stugotts. Thank you, buddy. You did.
G
You did sprinkle in some things. After all the editing process was done and we needed to be done with the entire project, Stugotts did sprinkle in a couple of lines, but I did notice that those sprinkles were in, like, the first three or four chapters, which led me to believe that he didn't get to, you know, 5 through 35.
Dan Le Batard
So I noticed that when I was reading the book, it was very inconsistent. The first four or five chapters were a lot better than the last. Let's say 16 or 17. You know how many chapters started strong?
G
We started strong.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, we did. Yeah. I'm proud of you, man. You wrote a good book. Seriously.
G
Thank you.
Stugotz
Holiday time bonus. Maybe. What Are we thinking here? You get best seller, Is there a bestseller bonus? What do we get?
Dan Le Batard
I mean, I don't know. That will depend on sales of the book, right? I mean, it's all guaranteed money. I'm joking. Whatever I agree to, it stands because what he gets, maybe a little book bonus. We'll see the kids.
Stugotz
How does it feel being an author, Stanzik?
G
It's actually weird. I plan on going to a bookstore later today and hopefully the book is there. I think that will be a pretty surreal moment. Not that people go to bookstores anymore, but anyone listening should buy a book. Yeah, it's great. Honestly, it hasn't felt real. It still doesn't feel real, but like, the books came, they're in my house. So, like it is real. I'm sure the audience feels the same way. You know, Stu Gotz has said a million things. He said a million of ideas and he hasn't executed many of them. This is one that was, was executed largely for him, but he did contribute. So I think this is a happy day for the audience. It's a Stugotts idea that has come to fruition for the audience.
Dan Le Batard
Yes. Something I was never going to do. Honestly, I would never. Anyone who knows me knows I am incapable for a number of different reasons for sitting down that long to write a book. It is never something I've had a desire to do. Until Mike Schur introduced me to this guy, Richard A. Body, okay. Who is one of the great literary agents in America. And then he called me two hours later with an offer from Random House and oh my God, did my tone change in terms of wanting to write a book? I got an offer.
Billy Corben
Yeah, that would do it. Yeah.
G
If we were to rank the reasons why this book happened or why you wanted to do the book. You know, I think money is probably number one.
Dan Le Batard
I would say the audience is number one, money is number two, Audience stanza is number three, and money is number four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. How about that? I mean, is that fair? Stanza? You know, I wanted to do this for the audience and it was never going to get done unless you did it. So.
Stugotz
Absolutely.
G
I don't think you're lying at all there. I just think money is probably number one, the audience is probably number two. But yeah, there is some, some good nature there.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, Money, one, audience to Europe.
Billy Corben
Well, the fact that you all attracted Random House, a major elite NFL sports level publishing house, is amazing. And that's why when you go into that bookstore, Stanzik, chances are pretty good. You might actually see the book. A cautionary tale, though. When Pride of a Lion first came out, I was all thrilled. The day it came out.
G
Oh, no.
Billy Corben
I run to my local Barnes and Noble. I'm envisioning a big display, not just the book. Somewhere on a shelf. I'm envisioning a big display, nowhere to be found. They never carried the book, so. But I think it's going to be different with a Random House product.
Greg Cody
This is where the jealousy comes in.
Stugotz
Mango publishes.
Greg Cody
You guys thought I was making this up.
Dan Le Batard
You.
Greg Cody
Everybody here thought I was being negative and I was pitting people against each other.
Billy Corben
Okay. I'm just saying, you know, Random House is the NFL. I have a beautiful local publisher called Mango Publishing.
Greg Cody
I love wonderful, wonderful local.
Billy Corben
I love Mango, but it's not the NFL. Random Houses and even Mango would.
Greg Cody
So that's the only reason that Stu got. His book is more successful than yours.
Stugotz
I was given a note and I'm wondering if you guys can confirm or deny this. I was told that you were asked specifically to stop saying this is going to be a New York Times bestseller. Is this so?
Dan Le Batard
I don't recall at any point someone asking me to stop saying that. I mean, listen, whether it goes on the New York Times bestseller list or not, I don't care. Because the thing is, I'm a. I'm a best selling author today. Yeah. And in my personal.
Stugotz
What matter?
Dan Le Batard
Well, in my Instagram personal Record Book Part 2, this book is already made the New York Times bestseller. Okay. It's already there, so it doesn't matter. Yeah.
Greg Cody
What were you guys pointing at that. Who was being told not to say New York Times bestseller anymore? The audience. It is required of the audience. Again, Chris, not helpful to continue to point at a screen. Who's telling you that we shouldn't be saying New York? I wanted bestseller.
Dan Le Batard
Stugott's denied it. I wanted to hear Stanzix opinion on that.
G
I'll just say that there is some hesitancy within the publisher, our publisher, about mentioning it. But I have told them Stugots has been saying it since February. Like this. This isn't going to change. He's been saying Stugott, beep. New York Times bestseller list, beep.
Dan Le Batard
Collision course.
G
Like it's a thing. So I. We sent the book to influencers, 30 or so people. Dan, you were among those who got the book with a note from Stuart tonight that of course iron wrote. And in the note I had that line in there and someone with our publisher asked to take it out because The New York Times gets a little finicky when you mentioned the New York Times bestseller list in trying to get on there.
Dan Le Batard
Yes.
G
So the publisher did at one point suggest that we not do that, and I told them we're doing it anyway.
Greg Cody
I would like, I would like to urge Taylor's line. I would like to urge the audience in this regard because I don't believe in the history of all his grip that we will have had a career achievement better than the world's laziest author does. The least authoring that can possibly be done and rockets to the top of the New York Times bestseller list. Our show, as one that is proud of the written word, the dying written word, can't do better than that as a joke, cannot.
G
Dan, you should take solace in the fact that you wrote more words than students got in this book. And your name is also on the COVID So in some ways, this is, this is a tribute to you and your long career. Friday.
Dan Le Batard
Thank you, Dan. Yes, yes. No money, by the way, the first.
Greg Cody
Writing of this kind I've done since back in my day. Another bestselling book with a smaller publishing house. Not quite as best selling as Stugotts is best selling.
Dan Le Batard
But now you're in bookstores, Dano. How about that? You, Dan Lerd, you're in bookstores.
Greg Cody
Your name's on the COVID on the cape of Stugotts.
Dan Le Batard
I did it for you again.
Greg Cody
Yes. I'm very high on that list of money. Funny audience. God, we all laughed at that one. I did it for the audience, Brother Teresa.
Dan Le Batard
I did it for you, man.
Greg Cody
You got the author. He's got an author title and Stanzig, when you expect what from what goes forward on this book. Because I don't think I'm overstating it when I say he made this very hard for you. Right? You had to do what percentage of the work?
G
Oh, if we're breaking it down that way, I'd say probably in the 90%.
Dan Le Batard
Range of the front end stuff. Right. On the back end, I really carried it home. Right. Like, you're not coming to the book signing with me and Greg Cody next week. You're not going to do that. You didn't have to sign 5,000 inserts, did you? I mean, you're not doing a media tour. I mean, you can do it with.
G
The work of the book.
Dan Le Batard
Listen, I'm not going to let Dan do this today.
Stugotz
It feels like you guys are falling apart.
Dan Le Batard
I'm not going to let him fracture our relationship. We have part Two to write. I'm not going to let Dan do it to me more.
Stugotz
2.
Roy Bellamy
You're resenting signing your own name to a book you didn't write.
Stugotz
Are you charging for the book signing with Greg?
Dan Le Batard
No, we're not charging. I mean, Greg and I are doing a book signing together.
G
Is included.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Roy Bellamy
By the book. They get sue got to sign it with his beautiful signature.
Dan Le Batard
Oh.
G
I mean, how did the guy talking about the audiobook.
Dan Le Batard
I don't know how the book world works, man. This is my first time around. That's up to Random House how they do it.
Stugotz
I don't want to ask an indelicate question.
Dan Le Batard
Slinging books, man.
Stugotz
Stanzik did 90% of the work and 90% of the money. Or how did that work?
Dan Le Batard
How did that break down? Well, it brough wrote down in a way that I think is favorable for Stanzik. I mean, more favorable for me, but that's the way it should work. They're my takes. I had the throwaway line of my personal record book. I didn't actually have one when I said that line, because who would have that? Who would actually sit there and keep their own personal record book? But Stanzik was writing it the entire time. The first time he mentioned it to me was when he was producing Stupidity. He said, I will write your book. And I never thought about it much until he called me maybe a year later or so and said, I've written the book. And I said, send it over. And he did. And I said, this is really good. And that was that. He wrote a book. It was good, and our audience loves it. So thank you. I mean, picturing Stephen King, like, doing the same process.
Greg Cody
Well, I. I just want to ask.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, it's a hard, grueling process. I would not recommend it to anyone. Writing books is difficult. It is. It is, really. Especially the way I did it. I mean, when you pour your heart and soul into something for month after month after month, then it's the audio book, and then it's a PR tour, and then it's another meeting, and then there's a book portal login. I mean, it's too much.
Roy Bellamy
Where is your PR tour?
Stugotz
I haven't seen you anywhere. I saw you on Todd McShay.
Dan Stanzik
This is his PR tour.
Dan Le Batard
I did the Art of Fatherhood. I did McShay. Going on some other shows next week because it's Thanksgiving week this week. Not a good day to go on shows. Your tour is Shine today. I think I'm doing Brendan Tobin later this week. I Mean, I'm making all these.
Stugotz
Yes, I do this week.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, but I don't have to. I could sit back and cruise now, because this book is already sold well enough. In fact, I'm thinking about canceling the entire media tour. I just need this audience. That's all it stands.
Stugotz
I mean, what does that mean? Well enough? Like, I'm assuming you had to reach a certain amount to get paid in full or something.
Dan Le Batard
No, we know we get paid no matter what.
Greg Cody
Stanzik, I just want you to know, okay, as a longtime fan of this show, and as we celebrate 20 years with what I believe is just please, please make this a bestseller, because we can't do better than mocking everything than this. But, Stanzik, I can't believe that I'm looking in the shipping container. Who have been with Stugotts for almost 20 years. Everybody. And they've reached a point where they are recoiling, boiling from the shame of whatever it is that this business arrangement was. I'm looking in the room, and all of them are afraid to ask you a question because the answer might be a little too real. Like, I want the help of the group to do this with you, and they won't do it with me.
G
Some of them may know better, Dan.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, yeah.
Greg Cody
You're recoiling. I feel shame in the other room. I can't believe you guys are still capable of shame when this is the creature. We're in love.
Roy Bellamy
Well, I just would have thought with the finished product. Now is when Sugat shows up. You know, the bright lights are on. He's there to take all the credit, which seemingly is within his character, or lack thereof, but he's too lazy to even take an unjust amount of credit for this because he doesn't want to do the PR door.
Dan Le Batard
Well, no, I don't want to do that to Stanzik. It is. It's. It's our day.
Roy Bellamy
Oh, really?
Dan Le Batard
Yes. Yes. I don't want to do that to Dan Stanzick. Listen, Dan, this is a treat. Chicken thigh. I deserve that. I deserve it. I hate those chickens, man. I hate them. I hate them. I hate the chickens.
Greg Cody
Thanks for joining us, Danzig. How do you feel when you switch to Geico and save on your car insurance? It's like going to work on one Thursday morning and thinking to yourself, just one more day until Friday. But then somebody in the elevator says, happy Friday. Then you check your phone quickly and discover today is actually Friday. So, yeah.
Stugotz
Yes.
Greg Cody
Happy Friday. Random stranger in the elevator. Happy Friday indeed. Yep. Switching and saving with Geico.
Roy Bellamy
Feels just like that.
Greg Cody
Get more with Geico.
Podcast Summary: "Local Hour: The Miami Dolphins 'Show Me' Game"
Podcast Information:
The episode centers around two primary topics: the promotion and challenges surrounding the hosts' collaborative book and the significance of the upcoming Miami Dolphins "Show Me" game. Hosted by Dan Le Batard and Stugotz, with contributions from Greg Cody, Billy Corben, and Roy Bellamy, the discussion weaves through personal anecdotes, professional endeavors, and passionate takes on sports.
The conversation begins with Dan Le Batard and Greg Cody delving into the intricacies of their newly released book. Greg lauds Stugotz for his contributions, emphasizing the collaborative nature of its creation.
Greg Cody [04:47]: "Stu Gotz is an author before me. That was very aggressive the way you did that to me, Roy."
Dan Le Batard [07:16]: "Greg and I are doing a book signing together in Miami in a couple of weeks. How about that?"
Tensions arise as Greg critiques the effort put into the book, suggesting that Stugotz delegated much of the work. Stugotz clarifies the situation, highlighting his significant involvement despite the challenges.
Greg Cody [10:40]: "The two that have sold very well because they were pushed through this show back in my day... But what Stugotts is doing right now is off the charts."
Stugotz [32:54]: "He normally would be... I think money is probably number one. The audience is probably number two."
A notable point of contention is the mention of the New York Times bestseller list. The hosts discuss the hesitancy from the publisher regarding promoting the book's potential bestseller status.
Greg Cody [36:57]: "So the publisher did at one point suggest that we not do that, and I told them we're doing it anyway."
Dan Le Batard [37:08]: "In my personal... this book is already made the New York Times bestseller."
The "Show Me" game is portrayed as a pivotal moment for the Miami Dolphins, symbolizing a chance for the team to prove itself amid a challenging season.
A substantial portion of the discussion revolves around Dolphins' quarterback Tua Tagovailoa, specifically addressing fears about potential concussions and their impact on his career and the team’s prospects.
Greg Cody [14:47]: "The greatest fear of Dolphin fans is... Tua's brain is in narrative mushier than the rest."
Stugotz [16:44]: "He's much better this year in his progressions... Tua's a smarter quarterback this year. I think he's safer."
The hosts express frustration with how media narratives and fan expectations can pressure players like Tua, potentially affecting their performance and well-being.
Dan Le Batard [21:12]: "Tua loves playing football... He's willing to risk all of that because he wants to be there with his teammates."
Greg Cody [23:53]: "What you're giving off right now about the Dolphins... it's not a pathology."
The chemistry among the hosts is evident through their playful teasing and candid exchanges, highlighting longstanding friendships and collaborative efforts.
Dan Le Batard [29:07]: "Leave a message."
Greg Cody [29:19]: "It's everybody. St. Guts. He's performing, baby."
Humorous moments pepper the conversation, such as remarks about intoxicated recordings and light-hearted jabs at each other's projects.
Greg Cody [29:31]: "It's everybody. St. Guts. He's performing, baby."
Dan Le Batard [40:25]: "How did that break down? Well, he wrote it a way that I think is favorable for Stanzik."
The episode concludes with a reaffirmation of the hosts' commitment to their projects and the Dolphins' upcoming game. Despite the challenges faced in book promotion and personal dynamics, the camaraderie among the hosts remains strong, underscoring their dedication to entertaining and engaging their audience.
Stugotz [44:46]: "Yes."
Dan Le Batard [44:55]: "Happy Friday."
Notable Quotes:
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the episode's essence, providing insights into the hosts' professional endeavors and their passionate discourse on the Miami Dolphins' significant game, making it a valuable resource for both regular listeners and newcomers.