Local Hour: The Name Game

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Local Hour: The Name Game

Date: April 22, 2026
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Episode Overview

In this lively “Local Hour,” Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the cast blend classic show chaos with sharp perspectives on basketball—particularly Dwyane Wade’s legacy—broadcasting careers after sports, podcast culture, and offbeat memories tied to pop culture and Miami nostalgia. The episode is rich with playful banter, cultural cross-talk, South Florida flavor, and several nautical detours around sports media, name debates, and 1960s musical references.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Debating NBA First Round and Greg Cote’s Basketball Takes

Timestamps: 01:29–03:47

• Dan Le Batard questions Greg Cote’s regret over declaring the NBA first round boring and whether he owes the league and its fans an apology after good recent games.
  • Greg, unrepentant but reflective, admits:
    “The first couple days were a dud. The last couple days have been good.” (03:23)
• A segue erupts into Lone Ranger jokes and generational pop-culture gaps, as Stugotz and Chris Cote admit they’re lost on the "Hi-Yo Silver" reference.
  • Chris Cote explains:
    “Silver was his horse... he could communicate with his horse. That’s the way it worked back then.” (03:17)

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2. Media Identity, Internet Misinformation & “Playing on My Name”

Timestamps: 05:18–06:43

• A conversation about pop-culture misrepresentation segues into fears over internet misinformation and the difficulty of verifying facts today, even about TV history (e.g., Lone Ranger’s Tonto).
  • Dan voices generational anxiety:
    “I am afraid of the internet. I don’t trust the internet. ... What’s real and what’s not real?” (05:40)
• The cast confirms Tonto was actually played by an Indigenous Canadian, but the famous "crying Indian" from the litter commercial was played by an Italian-American, Iron Eyes Cody, which stuns the group.

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3. Dwyane Wade’s Legacy, Respect, and the ‘Wade vs. Harden’ Debate

Timestamps: 07:16–13:25, 25:53–29:15

• Dan introduces a passionate soundbite from Dwyane Wade, asserting his Hall of Fame credentials and irritation at having his name diminished:
  • Dwyane Wade (08:28):
    “I’m tired of people playing on my name... Stop playing on my name, man. Cause I worked hard to build it ... I know I’m an outsider that came in out of nowhere.”
• The crew breaks down this rare show of bravado, debating why Wade’s reputation is frequently questioned—especially in comparison to James Harden.
  • Greg Cote:
    “There is this comfort in not acknowledging how great this player was ... it’s odd to me how he keeps getting thrown into these conversations that are disrespectful to him.” (09:29)
  • Eric:
    “You look at what Dwyane Wade has done in the playoffs, the clutch moments ... the absolute killer he was versus Harden.” (10:34)
• Discussion pinpoints Patrick Beverley as the main provocateur of the “Wade vs. Harden” debate, with the group unified that Beverley’s critiques are spurious.
  • Chris Cote:
    “The only criticism I’ve heard of Dwayne Wade’s career—which I think is ridiculous—is that he needed Shaq to win the first ring and LeBron to win the next two.” (13:01)
• Dan clarifies:
  “That’s not ridiculous. He did need that help ... everybody needs help, though.” (13:17)
• They further discuss how even superstars require teammates—Ron Harper’s recent quote about Jordan needing Pippen is cited.

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4. Navigating the Sports Podcast Landscape & Crossover with “It Is What It Is”

Timestamps: 13:32–17:17

• The crew recaps a recent, headline-making fight on "It Is What It Is," Cam’ron and Mase’s sports podcast, where a wrestling guest (Jay Uso) got physical on set; Trista, a guest co-host, narrates the situation (15:53).
• Dan’s own influence on Cam’ron’s sports media emergence is revealed:
  • Dan Mace:
    “He was on Highly Questionable ... you were the catalyst. You were the LeBron James to the Bronny James.” (15:03)
• General praise for media innovation and performance art stunts from sports podcasts.

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5. Athlete Post-Career Identity and Competition

Timestamps: 21:53–25:58

• Dan and the crew examine how stars like Dwyane Wade search to replace the addictive thrill of athletic competition after retirement.
  • Dan:
    “There is nothing that replaces that in retirement, nothing that will ever come close ... Many of these guys are addicted to competition.” (22:55)
• Broadcasting is cast as a new arena of competition—but one that is awkward for many ex-players without the intrinsic confidence they had on the court.
• Stugotz and Greg Cote debate the quality of Wade’s broadcasting career, with general agreement that chemistry with co-hosts is key.

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6. Name Game, Nostalgia, and the Miami Dead Cat Mystery

Timestamps: 36:24–42:25

• The crew’s conversation devolves into a bizarre, charming Miami memory lane when Chris Cote references “The Name Game'' (Shirley Ellis, 1964) and its tie-in to his childhood:
  • Chris:
    “I remember driving ... The Name Game came on the radio ... I’m singing along ... and my dad was distracted and he ran into another car ... there were dozens of dead cats ... that’s the thing I remember.” (39:02–40:35)
• The story spirals through Miami geography, eccentric relatives (Uncle Buddy, Aunt Arlene, Ruth Doogie), and the mysterious river of dead cats—a classic Local Hour detour.

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7. MLB Pain & Dan’s Shaky Little League Memories

Timestamps: 42:28–46:46

• Dan recounts the trauma of being plunked in little league—twice in a row on the elbow—inspired by a recent MLB incident (Kyle Stowers hit by a 102-mph pitch).
  • Dan:
    “I go, he’s wild, but he throws harder than anybody ... hits me on the elbow ... and then tries to pick me off and hits me again.” (43:13–44:24)
• The others poke holes in his story for comic effect (“If you had a small lead, why’d you dive back?”), leading to further admissions about his lack of athletic spatial awareness.
• Closing acknowledgments of pain and fear in sports, with humorous references to Don Baylor, catchers with fractured testicles, and the everyday violence of baseball and football.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On generational references:

• Dan (to Chris):
  “What you just said to that room might as well have been said in Mandarin for the way that they understood what you were asking.” (37:59)

On Dwyane Wade’s rare hubris:

• Dwyane Wade:
  “I’m the most coolest, calmest, humblest, quietest dude about what I’ve done. But if we want to talk, then I can ... stop playing on my name, man.” (08:28 / 25:08)

Greg Cote on disrespect toward Wade:

• “There is this comfort in not acknowledging how great this player was ... it's odd to me how he keeps getting thrown into these conversations that are disrespectful to him.” (09:29)

Chris Cote on classic Miami weirdness:

• “My mother walking ... in the river were dozens of dead cats. And that’s the thing I remember.” (40:35)

Stugotz, keeping the mood light:

• “Should have been [called] Bud. Uncle Buddy is my mother’s brother.” (41:21)

On MLB Pain:

• Dan:
  “In baseball, 102 miles an hour hitting you on the hand. I would think that would leave the kind of pain that you feel later in life ...” (44:13)

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Segment Timestamps

• NBA First Round Slander & Lone Ranger: 01:29–04:43
• Internet Misinformation & Pop Culture: 05:18–06:43
• Dwyane Wade ‘Stop Playing on My Name’ & Legacy: 07:16–13:25, reprise at 25:53–29:15
• “It Is What It Is” Podcast & Media Crossover: 13:32–17:17
• Athlete Post-Retirement Identity: 21:53–25:58
• The Name Game & Miami Dead Cat Story: 36:24–42:25
• MLB Pain & Dan’s Little League Woes: 42:28–46:46

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Overall Tone & Feel

The episode is quintessential Local Hour—equal parts sharp sports talk and unhinged comedic tangents, with a flavorful, nostalgic, and self-effacing Miami vibe. The tone is witty, occasionally irreverent, but always affectionate toward both local lore and the current sports landscape.

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Useful For...

• NBA fans interested in how legends like Wade perceive their own legacies and the shifting culture of respect in sports media.
• Listeners who enjoy sports talk interlaced with pop-culture nostalgia and unpredictable, personal Miami anecdotes.
• Anyone seeking a snapshot of how sports shows balance playful banter, honest self-reflection, and deeper discussions about athlete identity in the media age.

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Transcript

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[Greg Cote]

Really long.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're a basketball expert. I don't know how the daily loudmouthing goes for you in terms of regret, but do you feel like you already owe the NBA, not just the Lakers, but the NBA, an apology?

[Greg Cote]

I don't know why you're saying that. And this isn't the first time where it's apologize, say, or. So that's what we have to do if you. If you think something's gonna happen. That's how sports is.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, so. But are you embarrassed?

[Greg Cote]

Sorry.

[Dan Le Batard]

So you're not embarrassed, though, because you had very.

[Greg Cote]

That's a better question.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, thank you for correcting me when you've been wrong on everything you've said about basketball.

[Greg Cote]

Apologizing. Who am I apologizing to?

[Dan Mace]

The fans.

[Chris Cote]

The fans? For what, Silver?

[Dan Le Batard]

For what?

[Eric]

You said the NBA first round's a. Dude said that a couple of days ago, and they certainly haven't been.

[Greg Cote]

That's very fair.

[Eric]

Thank you.

[Greg Cote]

Okay.

[Chris Cote]

You ought to be saying, hi, Yo, Silver.

[Greg Cote]

The first couple days were a dud. The last couple days have been good.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is that a Lone Ranger joke? Did you just fit like a glove for Adam Silver? You just did. Do you guys know the joke that he was just making there? Do you guys have. I just want to have a reference point for. I have not heard the Lone Ranger joked about in a while.

[Dan Mace]

Tonto.

[Stugats]

I'm not going to lie. I know the phrase hi, ho, Silver. Oh, wait. But I don't know what it's from.

[Chris Cote]

So you're.

[Stugats]

You're teaching me?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. Zaz has been an active and open Adam Silver critic. So now he ought to be shouting, hi, O Silver on a bended knee as far as I'm concerned.

[Greg Cote]

Why? What is Adam Silver getting credit for?

[Dan Le Batard]

Why would he be doing it on a bent knee?

[Chris Cote]

Because you know why?

[Dan Le Batard]

You can't be on a horse when you're saying hi. Where you're saying, hi, O. Silver. Is that. Is that a command for a horse?

[Chris Cote]

Yes. Silver was his horse. Hi, O Silver away. He's exhorting his horse. He didn't use a whip. He could communicate with his horse. You know, that's the way it worked back then.

[Stugats]

I wish they did that now.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, they should.

[Stugats]

Hey, come on.

[Chris Cote]

Like jockeys on racehorses. Come on whip. They ought to be going, hi, O Silver.

[Greg Cote]

When do you think we lost that ability to commute that way?

[Chris Cote]

I don't know.

[Eric]

The car, the wagon.

[Chris Cote]

It could be. I don't know about that.

[Stugats]

I saw a guy on the highway this morning slapping his car. It was weird.

[Chris Cote]

That is weird.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you want to tell us anything more about the Lone Ranger? It was one of my earliest memories.

[Chris Cote]

I don't even know when it was on tv. Black and white goes without saying, but I remember. And Tonto. You couldn't get away with this. Now, his. His sidekick was an American Indian man named Tonto.

[Dan Le Batard]

You couldn't get away with having a Native American on the show.

[Chris Cote]

Not. Not. Not made up like Tonto was.

[Dan Mace]

Yeah. I think the word Tonto means dumb, doesn't it?

[Chris Cote]

I have no idea. But he had face paint and things.

[Dan Le Batard]

Was he Native American? Do we know if he was actually native?

[Eric]

That other guy was Italian, right?

[Chris Cote]

Played Tonto. I don't know that.

[Eric]

The crying Indian.

[Chris Cote]

Is that what it was?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

Well, there is Italian cowboys.

[Dan Le Batard]

The other guy, the crying Indian, was that a national commercial or was that a local commercial?

[Chris Cote]

Yes, for littering. Okay, but he was Italian, so.

[Dan Le Batard]

But. So the Native American who was. Who was weeping in a litter commercial was Italian?

[Miller Lite Announcer]

Yeah.

[Jay Uso]

Is Tonto the same person that jumps on it.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast. I need a clarification. Was Tonto in the old Lone Ranger series that Greg Cody just mentioned? Was. Was he actually Native American or was he Sicilian Mohawk from Canada?

[Chris Cote]

Yes. Jay Silverheels.

[Dan Mace]

That's correct. That's correct. That's his name.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, that's his actual name. What is real, Tony? What are the facts here? Because I have some fear when I send you to the Internet in the modern age, because there's a lot of stuff that cannot be trusted right now on the Internet.

[Stugats]

I agree.

[Dan Le Batard]

I am afraid of the Internet. I don't trust the Internet. There are a whole lot of people in MAGA saying that the President of the United States stayed an assassination attempt. And I don't know what I'm looking at when I look at pictures. What's real and what's not real. And this is only going to get worse. What is the fact regarding Tonto of the old Lone Rangers?

[Eric]

Well, Tonto. Tonto was Native American from Canada. But the crying Indian commercial, the Keep America Beautiful commercial of littering in 1971 was portrayed by Iron Eyes Cody, who was born. Espera Oscar de Corti, to Sicilian immigrant parents in Louisiana. So second generation Italian American.

[Dan Le Batard]

And that was a national commercial. The crying Native American litter commercial. It's. Everyone listening to this would know what I'm talking about there. There's not a generation that missed that. Like, that's not a musty reference from the 1970s.

[Eric]

No, no, it is. It's absolutely musty and cobwebbed, but it's still so iconic because he was Italian.

[Chris Cote]

If he was.

[Eric]

If he was Native American, I'd be like, okay, yeah, sure, but he's Italian.

[Chris Cote]

Mm. Who made it a salad kind of guy.

[Eric]

Attaboy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are your catchphrases ready?

[Chris Cote]

They were always ready.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, let's do it right now, then. Let's not waste any more time, because I was going to start with what I believe to be something that Dwyane Wade has done that I've never seen him do. I've been covering him for. It's going to be, what, 2000? Okay. We're going more than 20 years. Okay. And just remember. Just remember the specifics of when he was on our show every couple of weeks, because he was coming up and the fame hadn't quite grabbed him yet.

[Greg Cote]

That was a big deal. You guys used to have him on a regular basis.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, no, he did a regular show, but he was also somebody at the Time. Like, I just remember that the things that were happening around him all the time where everybody would come up to him and say, please don't change. Please don't.

[Greg Cote]

He was so sweet.

[Dan Le Batard]

Please don't. But these words that I'm hearing him use here, they're not change. But I just want to frame it for the audience correctly, because if you think Dwyane Wade has come to the Pat McAfee all the smoke game and doesn't want to win, you don't know what Dwyane Wade is doing with this part of his career as he searches for, you know, the stuff that made him great a long time ago. These guys, when they retire, ownership ain't gonna do it for him. He's gotta compete. He's gotta be competing against somebody in a way that's active. He wants to be very good as a broadcaster. There are good jobs in streaming right now. You see who's getting them. None of them have the credentials of Dwyane Wade. Like, all these people. Blake Griffin, everybody else. Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady. None of them. None of them have the credentials that Dwyane Wade has. And he is here to remind you, when Patrick Beverley speaks ill of him, please remember who you're talking about here.

[Dwyane Wade]

And it was just taking a moment and just. I'm tired of people playing on my name a little bit, you know? I mean, like, I understand everyone has their favorites, and that's all great. We all do. But, you know, you're talking about. You're talking to somebody within five years of his NBA career, had a hard hall of Fame career. I'm just gonna let everybody else go look at what I did in five years. And so, like, I don't, like, don't play with me. I'm not the one to play with. Like, I'm. I'm the most coolest, calmest, humblest, quietest dude about what I've done. But if we want to talk, then I can. And that was just like, an overall conversation to anybody out there that like to play with my name. Like, I'm gonna go back and do my thing and go back into my life. Stop playing on my name, man. Cause I worked hard to build it, and I know I'm an outsider that came in out of nowhere.

[Dan Le Batard]

I get it.

[Dwyane Wade]

I get it, guys. I wasn't all nothing in he school, in college, and I know I came out of nowhere, but don't play with me, man. Stop playing my name.

[Dan Le Batard]

I haven't seen Zaz him put his card on the table. That Way. In fact, I've never heard anybody say it that way. That Dwyane Wade had a Hall of Fame career. Hall of Fame career within five years. He's doing his own publicity there.

[Greg Cote]

He really could have just said in the first three years, because years four and five were not very helpful. But the part that is most interesting to me, and this has been going on for a long time, and for whatever reason, now has been the tipping point where now, like, he's angry about it, he's annoyed with it. This has been going on for far too long. I don't know the answer to it, Dan. Where for some reason, and it's not just former players, lately, it's been former players, but fans, media, whatever. There. There is this comfort in not acknowledging how great this player was. The way that he has spoken about, the way that you've heard recently people take shots at him. For someone with his credentials and what he accomplished. It's odd to me how he keeps getting thrown into these conversations that are disrespectful to him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Which conversations are we talking about? Who's being disrespectful?

[Greg Cote]

It's always the hardened stuff that, you know, it's odds. It's been six months that we've done the Wade Harden thing. Let's bring it back up. Like, that one continues to keep coming up.

[Eric]

And the weird thing is, like, Harden hasn't won anything.

[Chris Cote]

Right.

[Eric]

So it's like when you put those two guys together, it's like you look at the rings. Not to do the rings conversation, but, like, you look at what Dwyane Wade has done in the playoffs, the clutch moments, the. The absolute killer he was versus Harden.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Eric]

And his conversation about the playoffs. And it's like, how can you really compare these two guys?

[Greg Cote]

I mean, if you want to talk about Harden, you know, one of them

[Dan Le Batard]

is an MVP like that. Like, I'm not. I'm not caping up for James Harden here, but is that what he. What's he insulted about there? Because that's him baring his teeth. He never does that. And I'm not even talking about the. My name. My. My name. I'm talking about he never. He has. When the janitors and everyone were saying to him, don't change, it's because they couldn't believe how humble he is. This is fact. It's. It's not arrogance. It's fact. First. First five years of my career, I'm a Hall of Famer. I've never heard anyone say it that way.

[Dan Mace]

I think at A certain point, getting. Being humble only gets you so far, and I think you get to a point in your career. I think he's just over it. By the way, Dwayne Wade, finals mvp. I think, though, the playing on his name, it just feels like he went on this podcast and he really wants to, like, pop off and be this podcaster, and maybe he's got a grand design of building up his media career, and you have to kind of say things a little bit more effusively and a little more braggadociously than you do when you're playing and your game is speaking for you on the court.

[Jay Uso]

Yeah, for sure. Like, I think people always playing with my boy named. Though his statue went up. We had something to say. His kid want to be his kid. We got something to say. People are always making, for some reason, comfortable statements about Dwyane Wade, and he's had enough. I'm the same way. I don't like to brag on what I be doing, but at a certain point of time, I'm gonna have to let folks know.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can you guys explain to me, though, who he's talking to there? I want to. I want some names on Patrick Beverly.

[Greg Cote]

Yeah, he's talking to you. Yeah. Like, most recently, he's speaking about Patrick Beverly because he's the one who most recently did the James Harden comparison. And. And then Patrick Beverly started talking about, you know, I'm a better three. Like. Like, Patrick Beverly started to list the things that he is better or was better at Dwyane Wade in his career.

[Chris Cote]

Well, I can see Wade being upset by that, because that's a direct. Ridiculous.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, he got cut from the Miami Heat.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Patrick Beverley got cut.

[Jay Uso]

He got cut from the Shanghai Sharks or whoever he went over the seas to play with.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm saying when Wade was coming through and it was his team, he couldn't make his team.

[Greg Cote]

Yeah, it was in 2010. The heat cut him, but.

[Chris Cote]

But other than Patrick Beverley, is he manufact the idea that people are dragging his name? Because I don't hear a lot of that. The only criticism I've heard of Dwayne Wade's career, which I think is ridiculous, is that he needed Shaq to win the first ring and LeBron to win the next two. I don't think that's true.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's not ridiculous. He did need that help, and he got the second group of people because he was tired of not being able to do it himself and said, so,

[Chris Cote]

okay, everybody needs help, though.

[Greg Cote]

Yeah. And if LeBron wasn't scared of JJ Berea. Wade would have been Finals MVP again that year.

[Dan Mace]

Ron Harper was just on Cameron Mace. It is what it is. Last week and said without Scotty Pippen, Michael Jordan wouldn't have a single ring.

[Dan Le Batard]

You saw that on it is what it is, right? Did you see Trist almost. She was in the middle of a. Of a fire. Do you know what this story.

[Chris Cote]

No, I do not. I don't know.

[Dan Le Batard]

What do you know about Cameron? What do you. What information do you have on it is what it is or Trista's career in general?

[Chris Cote]

I don't know.

[Dan Mace]

Stop playing on my name, Greg.

[Chris Cote]

See, you're dragging everybody playing on my name. I'm not dragging your name, Greg.

[Eric]

Talking about the purple, the pink fur, the purple tape.

[Chris Cote]

I don't know anything about that. The colors. You tell me, Jay.

[Jay Uso]

Uso. I'm coming for you, sucker.

[Chris Cote]

Okay, I can't be involved in this conversation because I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about.

[Dan Le Batard]

So, Cameron, do you know. Do you know the podcast? It is what it is. No, it is fun. It's different. And Trista is occasionally hosting.

[Chris Cote]

Excellent. Good.

[Dan Le Batard]

And a fight broke out with one of their hosts.

[Chris Cote]

A physical fight.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, he was attacked. Cameron isn't. You know, I don't think people generally want to beef with him, but a professional wrestler took him out and Trista was nearby. Was it dangerous for you?

[Dan Mace]

No, I was ready to squabble, but I was afraid that I was gonna jump on the pile and it was gonna hurt my guy. Cam'. Ron. By the way, I heard on two separate occasions, one's from Cam, also one's from Carl, that you actually started Cam' Ron's sports media career.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan, I have no knowledge of that.

[Chris Cote]

What?

[Dan Le Batard]

Somebody will have to explain.

[Dan Mace]

He was on highly questionable, and it was his first time of anyone taking him seriously to talk about sports and not rap. You were the catalyst. You were the LeBron James to the Bronny James.

[Chris Cote]

Good job, Dan. Cameron, good job. Well done.

[Dan Le Batard]

Lots of careers. It's a good podcast.

[Stugats]

He's in your tree.

[Dan Le Batard]

I would not have taken credit for him because I did not know that that was something that had sprouted from our tree. I was not aware of that. Thank you. That's flattering. But there was no danger to you, no harm to you or your career, because nobody. I've never been in the middle of something like that.

[Greg Cote]

Do you want. Do you want to like. Greg, would you like to see what happened? Because Trista was standing on a Table.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, I would like to see it because I want to. I want to be sure that it's a legit beef and not contrived.

[Dan Le Batard]

What?

[Chris Cote]

Because.

[Greg Cote]

Well, can you set it up? Trista, can you, can you set up what happened here?

[Dan Mace]

Look, I can set it up.

[Dan Le Batard]

This guy's a menace. This is a professional wrestler. It's not going to be contrived.

[Dan Mace]

Okay, so we, we had an interview and from moment one, there was about a 17, 18 minute interview and I could tell right away this thing was gonna go left. And you talk about playing on somebody's name. I don't mean to like sprinkle some hate on my guy Cameron, cuz I ride for him, for him 10 toes down, but he was clearly playing on Jay Uso's name the whole time. Just kind of disrespectful. Very disrespectful. Just kind of subtle digs. Didn't really want to be there. Didn't want Jey USO to be there. I was trying to break the ice, trying to really like keep the mood light and it, it turned into a little bit of a melee.

[Dan Le Batard]

Listen, Mace, I'm. I don't actually don't have any more questions, Nick. I'm more mad at you because you keep bringing Saturday Wrestlemania here and you don't bring us. Say less count. I ain't got to my producer, bro. You keep bringing Sunday. I need a Sunday Wrestlemania. I don't smell what the ooze is cooking. And at the end. He tripped.

[Greg Cote]

It's awesome.

[Chris Cote]

That's great.

[Dan Le Batard]

So what is the problem?

[Dan Mace]

It is what it is.

[Dan Le Batard]

What is the problem, Cody? What is your assessment is what now, after having seen it and after a segment in which we're talking about you can't trust the Internet.

[Chris Cote]

I loved it. It looks real as rain. I got nothing wrong to say about that. It's also great for the podcast, don't

[Dan Mace]

get me wrong, but get about 50 million views.

[Chris Cote]

All those clips, of course, but it looks, it looks real.

[Stugats]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Jay Uso]

Don LeBatard.

[Dan Le Batard]

Doesn't matter anywhere.

[Jay Uso]

We could do it in Buffalo or Baltimore either.

[Dan Le Batard]

He said you could do it where? Anywhere.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, Whoa.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. He said he could do it anywhere.

[Jay Uso]

That's crazy.

[Chris Cote]

Murder.

[Dan Le Batard]

Murder. Tell him, Stugach.

[Miller Lite Announcer]

I had no idea. Mean. Had that in his locker.

[Jay Uso]

That might be his best.

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That's crazy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not kidding. That's crazy.

[Jay Uso]

Killer.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's two America's Dad. You don't get it. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. I was jealous at what a good idea it was when I saw it. I'm like, why didn't we do that with the MMA guy?

[Eric]

Because that guy would really kill us.

[Jay Uso]

Yeah, he wouldn't have stopped. He would have kept punching you. Nobody could pull you off.

[Stugats]

We should have set that up for

[Chris Cote]

you and him, though.

[Dan Le Batard]

That would have been. Yeah, I would have. I would have. That would have been wonderful. That as performance art. I was jealous of the idea.

[Stugats]

Dan's gonna push you.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Dwayne Wade thing, though. Zaslow, we've talked before about when these guys are done with their playing careers, especially the guys that played at the heights that Dwyane Wade played, okay? There is nothing that replaces that in retirement, nothing that will ever come close, nothing that feels like any of that. You will spend the rest of your life chasing something that you will never again get close to. Many of these guys are addicted to competition, addicted to it. That's how you get that good at it. And so, in his post career, I don't think Dwayne Wade will be satisfied by being an owner for the Utah Jets. Like, these guys are now competing in that stratosphere. You know, Brady owns a team. They're all creating media companies. They want to play big because there's a real media opportunity now if you have a certain name, by pedigree, Dwyane Wade is as good as anybody who tries broadcasting. Like, it's you. The. The greatest players do not become the broadcasters. It's still shocking to me to see Vince Carter, Carmelo, and Tracy McGrady, and they're not quite on the tier with Dwayne Wade, even though I guess we'd make an argument for McGrady because they're very. They're very similar players. But still, what he is as a broadcaster has more credentials than anyone speaking about him. Just about right. Maybe Shaq, maybe Barkley, but there just

[Stugats]

Aren't very many, but it's more about credentials. Like, I think Wade on air, he did the Olympic Games.

[Dan Le Batard]

He did.

[Stugats]

I think he had a stint with one studio show and he's been fine. I don't think he stands out as a broadcaster.

[Greg Cote]

I think so far he has stood out depending on who he is next to.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's correct. That's exactly right. When he was with Stan. You saw it when he was with Stan Van Gundy on Prime. Everyone saw it. Look, these are funny and interesting ingredients, all of them. Okay? I watch Blake Griffin and I'm like, that dude's really funny. God almighty. Is that a starched fit for him? Trying to fit inside of. They got him Steve Nash for some chemistry, but trying to fit inside of. Well, there's Dirk over there doing the show in his second language and he's a huge star and that's why he's there. Because we're gonna just throw names at this and we don't care if they're good broadcasters. Blake is stiff, like, obviously stifled. That guy could be a stand up comedian and there's just not room on that show to move around. Dwayne Wade has never been good at the broadcasting. Like real scintillating, fascinating quote as a talker, none of that stuff. But he's intent on being good at it. He knows that you have to study it. It's important for him to be good at it and then have the chances where, oh, that felt different working with Stan. Look at all the praise I'm getting. Everyone told me how good that was. And it's just because he's comfortable and trusts the guy next to him that they're going to throw the ball back and forth safely. Because you're not gonna embarrass me on television, especially Dwayne Wade cannot have the confidence for broadcasting that he has for basketball. It's not possible. And so he wants to be good at it. But this right here is just him pissed off. Like, even if we play this back, you will hear, okay, he walks it back almost immediately because it's not, it's not his nature to have to remind everyone how good he is, but he feels the need to remind them because he thinks they forgot.

[Dwyane Wade]

And it was just taking a moment and just, I'm tired of people playing on my name a little bit, you know what I mean? Like, I understand everyone has their favor. All great. We all do. But you know, you're talking about, you're talking to somebody within five years of his NBA career, had a Hall of Fame career ain't. I'm just gonna let everybody else go look at what I did in five years. And so, like, I don't, like, don't play with me. I'm not the one to play with. Like, I'm. I'm the most coolest, calmest, humblest, quietest dude about what I've done. But if we want to talk, then I can. And it's just. That was just like, an overall conversation to anybody out there that like to play with my name. Like, I'm gonna go back and do my thing and go back into my life. You stop playing on my name, man. Because I worked hard to build it, and I know I'm an outsider that came in out of nowhere.

[Dan Le Batard]

I get it.

[Dwyane Wade]

I get it, guys. I wasn't all nothing in high school, in college, and I know I came out of nowhere. But don't play with me, man. Stop playing with my name.

[Chris Cote]

I see a guy who, at this point in his life, does more than want to still compete. This is a guy who still wants the spotlight, who still wants to be relevant and doesn't want to fade because owners compete. But owners tend to be background, and he wants to still be out front and more power to him. He deserves to be.

[Greg Cote]

This conversation has been going on for a long time with the Wade Harden comparison. Something. There was a tipping point, clearly, recently. Like, I know Trista is saying, all right, well, maybe he wants to get out there in the podcast game. I think it's less than that. I think the difference here is he doesn't like that Pat Beverly said it. So I think it's very clear that for whatever reason, he like Pat Beverly talking about, Dwyane Wade's my guy, you know, whatever. Clearly, Dwyane Wade doesn't feel the same way. I think he's annoyed that Pat Beverly stuck his nose into 100%.

[Dan Mace]

Was. Was Pat Beverly a highly or a more highly lauded high school player than Dwyane Wade out of Chicago? Because I feel like Pat Beverly was.

[Greg Cote]

Oh, maybe that. Maybe it comes a little bit from there. I mean, he was an undrafted free agent rookie with the Heat. He didn't make the team, went overseas, came back into the league, but I didn't realize the Chicago part of it.

[Eric]

In the clip, you hear him say, like, I'm going to go back to my life. So I don't know if it's as much as, like, an outward thing of, like, I want to get in this game as much as, like, I'm going to step out of my personal life and all the things that I got going on to come out and say what I got to say because everybody's playing on my name. I'm going to go back to living my great life over here in ownership and money and family and all this stuff. And you guys are just going to know this is how I stand on it.

[Stugats]

Pat Beverley was a four star recruit, ranked as high as 59th overall prospect at one point.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Chicago thing is always interesting because guys from Chicago do proudly compete about Chicago basketball, but there were a couple of things you guys said there that I would dispute and want to pick apart. First of all, Cody's saying owners compete. They do. But what athletes get is daily applause for what they're doing. That's what podcasts do. Owners have to wait till the end of the season with a whole lot of grinding in shadows to find out if they won. And he's Utah. They've got a long way to go. Whatever competing is there, maybe he'll get to it one day. It doesn't feed the furnace that requires the daily. Some of these guys like sparks and fights like they like to. They miss the physical contact of Dwyane Wade says if I hadn't got injured, I was thinking about being Michael Jordan. Like if my body hadn't betrayed me. That's the way Dwayne Wade was thinking about himself. I believe he needs something post career that feeds the identity when he's already in the history of having to remind people what his name was and tell them the specifics of do you know what it took to build this name? I was not highly recruited. I was not somebody in college who was groomed for this. I went to Marquette and I earned it because everyone saw in the tournament, holy shit. As an individual player, he can do it by himself. He gets drafted with Bosh and then has a Hall of Fame career and didn't actually need anything other than Avery Johnson never stopping, the doubling of Shaq and the worst officiated series of all time to cement.

[Eric]

I mean, that's neither here nor there. You don't have to talk about the refereeing.

[Greg Cote]

Remember going into that series, we're going to. Everybody's going to see what a great defender Josh Howard is. That was the. That was the story going in. And Wade looked like Michael Jordan.

[Jay Uso]

I was just like Dwyane Wade when I started because I've been doing this sports thing for a little while now. And so some folks in the music industry been playing on my name, saying I was dead. So that's why you can catch Blue Flame right now. Available on iPhone.

[Dan Le Batard]

How did that just happen? How did that.

[Chris Cote]

Professional job right there.

[Stugats]

I didn't notice it. What do you think?

[Eric]

School of Amino Hassan.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was not professional, Roy. No. Guy don't want to learn. Guy don't want to earn. Guy wants to earn without learning.

[Stugats]

Speaking of which.

[Dan Le Batard]

What was that? That was Juju speaking. Only to get that promo off, you gotta be more subtle than that.

[Stugats]

Seamless. I didn't even notice.

[Greg Cote]

That was slick.

[Chris Cote]

Subtly, he's overrated.

[Eric]

Thought he was dead.

[Dan Le Batard]

How? You can't throw a music promo in the first 30 minutes of the show. That has nothing to do with what we're talking about. That is the second time you've compared yourself to Dwyane Wade in this segment.

[Dan Mace]

Also, people playing with my name because people are saying that Cam' Ron and or Mace and Mace Ghost wrote for me, which did not happen. I write all my own lyrics. That's all I have to say about that.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't understand the defiance that's happening.

[Greg Cote]

She's doing it too. She's not.

[Eric]

Another music promo.

[Greg Cote]

Yeah, that's what she just did.

[Chris Cote]

That's exactly what she did. Like me talking about the Great Cody show podcast. You just don't do that. You know, there's a place to promote yourself, but it's not here. All right, somebody else's show.

[Dan Le Batard]

Go ahead, play it.

[Dan Mace]

Got a big mouth. Say what I want to say I'm the main event Sunday night, not Saturday I'm not your cocktail chick at the mandalay or sitting table for the phonies Takes like Vandelay not for labels Also not for favors off of Ray Bolay Before I get the spray I gotta say allegedly and I'm not judging either way what's your flavor? Flavor's hard to keep a secret, baby now you like baby face don't take the fall like they try to do to catch his play you already did the game's rigged anyway. Damn Tris Ohio girl gotta catch a strange up up on the table if she don't put them minutes away universe is rocky don't get cocky Marciano undefeated Benavidez locking Here is Luciano and it's been a minute out like Diddy Mad underselling Let me tell you about my city NPO we rep the rose not the Madison Square Come from anywhere to hear you better change what you wear Bubbles, duh, raincoats, super sized umbrellas and the critics from your city better watch what they will tell ya I've heard it all po's not cracking Ain't nobody rapping Ain't no even blacks in this all picket fences that ain't true we only leave a beaver up at OSU Eugene yellow and green duck step on the scene what said we even got the best sticky green Y huh? It's the Blazers, y'. All. Same team that Blaze Blunts in the Blazer, y'. All, you know who Sheet and Damon. I tell you, Danny about to be a household name. And we critically acclaim still having fun. It's the same city that invented Air force once see Damn.

[Chris Cote]

Very nice.

[Dan Le Batard]

Cody's shoulders moved, which is the highest compliment there is in hip hop.

[Chris Cote]

That was great. It was fantastic. I love the. The cash's Clay and Marciano.

[Dan Le Batard]

Your glasses.

[Dan Mace]

Thank you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Smoking. Your glasses are on fire.

[Chris Cote]

And that rap was smoking as well.

[Dan Mace]

Man. You're a real fan of lyrics. I appreciate you really keying in on some pieces.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, yeah, that's. That's. I love that.

[Dan Mace]

Universe is undefeated.

[Chris Cote]

That was super good.

[Eric]

Good.

[Chris Cote]

I enjoyed that.

[Dan Le Batard]

He especially liked Marciano. A shout out to his time in Rocky in boxing.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Eric]

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[Chris Cote]

Don Lebatard, a woman who was out swimming with her friends, is believed to have been swallowed whole by a 13 foot shark park without any of her friends noticing. That's the weirdest part about that story. You're swimming with friends, you're having a good time and then all of a sudden people are looking around going, where's Shelly? Like, nobody screamed.

[Greg Cote]

Every friend group has a Shelly though,

[Dan Le Batard]

that if they go missing because a

[Greg Cote]

shark ate them whole, you wouldn't notice. Classic Shelly.

[Dan Le Batard]

Exactly right.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stugats.

[Chris Cote]

She went quietly. Apparently, if I'm swallowed whole by a shark, you're gonna know it.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. I wanted to talk about something that happened the other day that I saw that I wanted to ask you guys about because we talked a While ago, at last baseball All Star Game, Jacob Misarowski, everybody was complaining because he played. Pitched like seven games or something. And he was just thrown in the All Star game. Cause he throws everything 104 miles an hour. He hit Kyle Stowers on the hand with a pitch that was 102 miles an hour. Now, Stowers. You okay there, Zach? Yeah. What happened there with the microphone? Like, why couldn't you do that quietly? What happened where you just.

[Greg Cote]

I mean, I have no control if the microphone is gonna be loud when I move it.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're a professional who's been doing this for 25 years.

[Chris Cote]

What was it like?

[Dan Le Batard]

That's something that.

[Chris Cote]

I mean, the others, they all learned from me.

[Dan Mace]

Do you have a. Like a nick on your neck? Is there? Is your neck?

[Greg Cote]

Come on.

[Chris Cote]

And really, I noticed it.

[Greg Cote]

We didn't get all this out of the way yesterday.

[Chris Cote]

I wasn't here.

[Greg Cote]

We're doing this again.

[Dan Mace]

I wasn't here yesterday. I was on a plane. I didn't see this show. Is that a Nick on your.

[Jay Uso]

Is that a knife fight?

[Chris Cote]

Nick. Nick Bobick. Shaving

[Jay Uso]

steal A lot of stubble.

[Dan Le Batard]

What is the Nick. Nick Bobick.

[Chris Cote]

It's the name. It's a 60s song. The name Game. Nick. Nick Bobick. Banana Bana bofic. Me, My momick.

[Stugats]

I can't even Nick keep up with him. As soon as I get this one, he drops it. Now I gotta go find another old song.

[Chris Cote]

The Name Game. Shirley Bassey, I think. Who's got me on that? Shirley Bassey, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

You can't be serious. You cannot be serious right now.

[Chris Cote]

Endgame.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, you can't be serious. Throwing it into that room with your eyes smoking from what Trista just did.

[Eric]

Right?

[Dan Le Batard]

And ask them a question that they're not going to have the answer to. Because I'm not joking when I say what you just said to that room might as well have been said in Mandarin for the way that they understood what you were asking.

[Chris Cote]

Okay, but you just proved that the beauty of rap lyrics is that sometimes you go way back. So in your next rap, you got to work in Nick. Nick Boba. Think it's going to be perfect?

[Dan Mace]

I might.

[Chris Cote]

There you go. And I'll be listening for it. Shirley Ellis. Shirley Ellis. Damn it. Okay, I had the first name. It's been a long time.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right? Do me the favor, Chris, please. Because we don't. I'm sure I'm assuming we don't have a. Back in my day.

[Chris Cote]

It's in the incubator still. You Know the. The. The NFL draft. You haven't mentioned the NFL draft yet. It's actually a big thing this week in sports that's occupied my time most of the last several days.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, but because you don't have a. Back in my day. I want the music for Back in my day and just off the cuff. Please tell us the story that you want to tell us about what this song is from. Whenever it is, this song was the

[Chris Cote]

Name Game, I think, was popular in the very early 60s. I could be off by a couple of years, but I was a young boy. And I remember driving. My dad and my mom were driving in their car. I think he had a 1957 Chevy Bel Air at the time. They're in the front. I'm in the back. I don't know where Uncle Dick was, because I was alone in the car with them. But the Name Game came on the radio, and it was my favorite song at the time. So I'm singing along with the Name Game. And my parents had such a. A thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

And what is. What is the Name Game, Rosanna?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, that song. Right, Nick. And so I'm singing that my parents are delighted. And my dad was distracted and he ran into another car. This was right in front of a royal castle on. Where was it? Was it Bird Road? We were definitely in Miami. I have no recollection. I think at the time, we were still living with Uncle Buddy in Miami. That's why we were in that area.

[Dan Le Batard]

There's an Uncle Buddy. When did Uncle Buddy. I didn't know there was an Uncle Buddy.

[Stugats]

Hands writing down Uncle Buddy.

[Chris Cote]

I've never heard of Uncle Buddy before. I'm learning during this time, Uncle Buddy was famous for being. Being divorced and then remarrying the same woman. And. Right there, even in.

[Stugats]

Even in that day.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

And you think he would just be married and, you know, do his thing?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. No, they got divorced and then remarried. But there was a. A thing, a river right near the house where we lived. And I remember my mother walking. And in the river were dozens of dead cats. And that's the thing I remember.

[Eric]

Definitely no rivers around Bird Road. Just want to let you know.

[Chris Cote]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

Then.

[Eric]

Then the canal, maybe.

[Chris Cote]

Okay. The house was.

[Greg Cote]

Are we just skipping over the dead cat part?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, we don't know. It's a mystery.

[Eric]

There's no rivers in Westchester.

[Dan Le Batard]

What does this have to do with the Name Game?

[Chris Cote]

Well, because I'm saying.

[Stugats]

Let him cook, Dan.

[Chris Cote]

Just a thing, you know, that. That was the time. That was the time we were living In Miami. And we were driving. The royal castle was in the back.

[Dan Le Batard]

You mentioned those details. Yes.

[Chris Cote]

And so that's that.

[Dan Le Batard]

And Zasla, what are your thoughts here? You're looking at him. What it feels like with Judge. I just.

[Jay Uso]

I'm.

[Greg Cote]

I'm befuddled.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Greg Cote]

With this story.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Greg Cote]

What does it have to do with what we're talking about? Uncle Bud?

[Chris Cote]

What were we talking about?

[Greg Cote]

Uncle Bud?

[Jay Uso]

Rest in powerful.

[Chris Cote]

Buddy. Nobody called him Bud. It should be. Come on.

[Stugats]

Should have been.

[Chris Cote]

Uncle Buddy is my mother's brother. My mother had a sister and a brother. Ruth Doogie. Auntie Arlene. Ruth Doogie, Arlene, Doogie, Buddy, Doogie. And they're all gone now. Long gone, as a matter of fact. That's the way life works. Anyway, you can stop that music now. I'm done next door.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. So the Name Game.

[Chris Cote]

Shirley Ellis, Bessie.

[Dan Le Batard]

Congratulations, Trista, on the compliment. There's never been one like it in the history of hip hop. He gave you a shoulder shrug. I was dancing a little while you rapped and compared you to the Name Game. Which makes him think of all of the dead cats that were in the river that doesn't exist in Miami that he's talking about.

[Chris Cote]

Feel free to use that imagery in your next rap as well.

[Dan Mace]

Music is a portal, and it transported you right back to Uncle Buddy.

[Dan Le Batard]

As I was saying, Kyle Stowers is in the batter's bond.

[Greg Cote]

Oh, yeah?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, talking baseball, that story.

[Greg Cote]

Were the cats floating?

[Chris Cote]

They were visible. My mom was traumatized. She was never a cat person. But she comes back to the house and reports that she'd just seen dozens. Dozens of dead cats. I don't know what happened.

[Stugats]

She never had a driver's license, though.

[Chris Cote]

No, she never drove.

[Stugats]

How was she driving?

[Chris Cote]

She wasn't driving. She was walking. The river was right near Uncle Buddy's house.

[Jay Uso]

Is Doogie a middle name or is this tradition?

[Chris Cote]

No, it's a surname. Name. D, H, O, O, G, E. Weird name, right?

[Jay Uso]

I thought.

[Chris Cote]

I thought it was banter, like Doogie Howser type thing. Yeah, okay.

[Eric]

That kind of thing.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, that kind of thing. Well said, number seven. Anyway, how's Stowers doing?

[Dan Le Batard]

So he's in the batter's box, and the pitch that hits him on the hand, on. On the fingers. If it. If it had been the fat of the hand, I'm. I'm guessing his hands explode. But just being the fingers broken. Maybe not exploded, but. Well, I just. When I think of pain in that sport. I've told you before that the greatest Pain was a catcher who had a fractured testicle. That seems like it would be the worst. But this is second for me. And it's why. It's basically why I stopped playing baseball. I'm going to tell you the short story, but David Salisbury ended up being like a high school shot putting champion. He was just bigger than all the other kids. Okay. I'm already a little bit afraid of the ball. I go, he's wild, but he throws harder than anybody in the league. And he hits me on the right elbow as I'm coming out of the batter's box, like, trying to get out of the way. Hits me on the right elbow and it hurts.

[Greg Cote]

You rub it?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Of course. I'm not Don Baylor. I'm not walking to first base.

[Eric]

Did your mom kiss it after put

[Chris Cote]

a little dirt on it?

[Dan Le Batard]

No. I was just. My worst fears had come true. But I didn't even dream my next fears because I've got a very small lead off of first base. I'm not going anywhere. I'm not. But he tries to pick me off and hits me again on the elbow as I'm diving back into the air.

[Greg Cote]

Now you gotta charge.

[Chris Cote]

If you didn't have a big lead, you wouldn't have had a dive.

[Stugats]

That's what I'm thinking.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thinking the same thing anyway. 102 miles an hour on the fingers. Like that strikes me as I'm always talking casually about football players. And do you know how weird it is that we watch that game on Sunday? Nobody's ever thinking about the guy who gets his fingers caught between two helmets trying to make a tackle. Because that, like, broken fingers are nothing for those people. They, you. You pop them back in and you get back out there. But in baseball, 102 miles an hour hitting you on the hand. I would think that that would leave the kind of pain that you feel later in life because you did something very bad to your hand one time and the trauma of that was such that you. I would think that would be pain that you feel in some ways the rest of your life. Just. Do I have that wrong? Because I'm afraid. I always thought before that the worst of the pains would be like you foul the ball into your ankle or you. But I think that's the one in baseball I fear the most.

[Greg Cote]

I just have a hard time believing that the pitcher is going to throw to first if you don't have, like a real lead.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. Yeah. That his story broke apart there a little bit. Yeah.

[Stugats]

The craziest part about this Stowers thing also is that it's his first as bad of the season. He was injured all season. Comes back first at bat, takes 102 to the hand.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Dan Mace]

Are they playing with your name right now, Dan?

[Stugats]

They are a little bit.

[Jay Uso]

I think they are.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why would I be making up the story of David Salisbury?

[Chris Cote]

Said you had a very small lead, which to me implies you're a foot off the bag. And then in the next breath you're saying you dove back.

[Greg Cote]

Small lead. You probably don't have to dive back. You could just, you know, step back.

[Stugats]

It would look really awkward. I'd say diving back from really close to the bag.

[Greg Cote]

Yeah. Did you overshoot the bag?

[Chris Cote]

He called out out of the baseline. His hand all the way into the dugout.

[Stugats]

His hands like near the first base coach. His feet's like on the bag.

[Greg Cote]

Maybe that's why you got hit, right?

[Chris Cote]

You got injured sliding into the home dugout.

[Dan Le Batard]

I tried to keep my foot on the bag as I reach for the first basement. You know what? That is what derailed my athletic career. Just no spatial awareness. Like, did you just snort?

[Chris Cote]

I did, yeah. I'm a snorter.

[Dan Le Batard]

That is a winning segment when I learn about my friend, an uncle buddy I did not know that existed. And a sound his body could not make.

[Greg Cote]

Dozens of cats,

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