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Greg Cody
Shadow Show.
Stugotz
Shadow Show.
Greg Cody
Shadow Show.
Stugotz
Shadow Show. Shadow Show. Shadow Show.
Greg Cody
Shadow Show.
Stugotz
Shadowing it. Shadowing it.
Greg Cody
Go ahead, Greg.
Stugotz
Homer Dan. Oh, do I delight? Do I delight in this? The number of times you have called me a homer over the years? Never again. The next time you call me a homer and it will slip, I want them to cue up the video of you in a cheerleader outfit holding a drum, literally cheerleading for the Florida Panthers. Where's your pom pom today? Where's your skirt?
Greg Cody
Pom poms?
Stugotz
No, it's pom pom.
Mike Ryan
There are cheerleaders that don't wear skirts.
Stugotz
I know.
Mike Ryan
Is it Palm ponds in the 90s.
Greg Cody
It's pom poms.
Mike Ryan
No, it's pom poms. I thought.
Greg Cody
No, I thought it was pom pom.
Stugotz
It's P O M, P O, N. I could be wrong.
Chris Cote
Here we go.
Stugotz
I could be wrong.
Greg Cody
I don't have. I've always thought it was pom poms.
Mike Ryan
This is quite literally the first time in my 40 years that I've heard pom poms.
Stugotz
Okay, look it up.
Greg Cody
Okay. Well, thanks.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, okay. Hang on. Wikipedia. Pom pom also spelled pom pon. It's an either or situation.
Mike Ryan
This is crazy.
Dan LeBatard
I believe everyone was right.
Jessica
Is that where pompano comes from? Greg?
Stugotz
You know, I'm not sure, but it's a good question by you. I've never thought of that.
Greg Cody
Really? Not a good question.
Jessica
Like Boca Raton.
Greg Cody
It's almost the worst question.
Stugotz
Right on. Yeah, that's what we used to say when I went to Fau Bokeh. Right on. Rat's mouth.
Jessica
And you know it, and you do.
Stugotz
Know it, and you know it. But anyway, getting back to you as a cheerleader, there have been positive reviews. I was looking at Variety, the trade magazine today, and I think the headline was something like, lebatard Takes Baffo Turn at Cat's Skin. Or something like that. You know, those Variety headlines are always weird, but, you know, you beat the drum pretty well, I thought. A little fast on the pace. A little fast on the pace. At one point, it looked like you were about to faint. I would have paid to see that. But, you know, overall, it's something you got to eat now. It's something you got to live with. You know, you wear it on your shoulders like a big. You're like an ox with a big yolk now. You got the yoke of having been a Panther cheerleader on your shoulders. It's invisible. You feel it and the rest of us see it. That's it.
Jessica
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats Podcast.
Greg Cody
Please welcome Generation Cupid.
Anita
I am Anita radio podcast and TV host Dan Monaton.
Greg Cody
Go ahead, Greg.
Stugotz
Well, I'm going to break news, I don't think. I hope you don't mind me revealing this, but this is just the beginning of a levitard cheerleader tour of South Florida. You know, this coming football season, old Dolphins. Remember Dolph and Denny? Dolph and Danny, he's going to be beating a drum on the sideline at Dolphin games. He's going to take a turn as a heat dancer. He's going to wear the. The Miami Marlins fish head. He's just, you know, this is a new lane for Dan, and I think, you know, he's. He's going all in. I got to give him that. You know, he's Cheerleader Dan, and it's just something we got to get used to.
Jessica
I did look at the Heat schedule and saw that Hispanic Heritage Night is this week and they're giving away bucket hats. And the thought did go through my mind, will Cuban American, some say Cuban born Dan Levittard be there for Hispanic Heritage Night for the Heat giving away bucket hats?
Stugotz
That's a good question. I think so.
Greg Cody
I don't enjoy what you're presently doing. Dolphin Denny is presently on the screen. If you have never seen him.
Stugotz
Dolphin Danny.
Greg Cody
He's really insulting me by calling me Dolphin Danny.
Chris Cote
I was picturing the other guy that's known. He wears more of like the full uniform, the shoulder pads. That's what I was.
Greg Cody
Yamayama man, maybe. No, that's. Yamayama is the University of Miami Yama.
Mike Ryan
You know, a guy with pom poms on his shoulders. He had a mustache and a hard hat. Yeah, with a dolphin in it. What's his name? He had a regular name.
Chris Cote
When Dan said Dolphin Denny, I was like, oh, that's the guy they're going to put up. That's for sure. I'd never seen that guy in the orange before.
Greg Cody
Well, that's old school dolphins right there. That's pathetic, though. They put that back up again so people can see, like, this is one of the worst mascots in the history of mascoting. But beloved for a time in South Florida because he was leathery, he. He was sunburnt and he was enthusiastic and he was a good mascot for the. For the team. But he.
Mike Ryan
That's him. But that's actually him.
Greg Cody
He was ridiculous.
Chris Cote
That's Mike Ditka.
Mike Ryan
Because that looks like. It looks like a Donald Trump Photoshop.
Greg Cody
He's. He was a ridiculous person.
Jessica
No.
Greg Cody
And he was a legend.
Chris Cote
Feel like everyone looked like Mike ditka.
Stugotz
In the 90s, God rest his soul.
Dan LeBatard
Put it on the pole with us.
Greg Cody
Put it on the pole.
Stugotz
He passed away years ago.
Greg Cody
Ditka is still with us.
Mike Ryan
Dolphin Danny.
Stugotz
No, I meant Dolph and Danny. I mean Denny superimposed Dan's face.
Mike Ryan
He looks like. Under that hat, he looks like Cowboy Bob Orton there.
Greg Cody
We also had Find Yamayama, please. If you want to go through ridiculous mascots in South Florida history, Yamayama man. Do you. Mike, are you even too Young to remember Yamayama at the University of Miami.
Mike Ryan
I don't think I get the reference. Yama. Yama.
Greg Cody
Okay, we'll put him up in a second.
Mike Ryan
I do know the other guy that you guys were talking about with the pom poms and the. And the dolphin on the hat and the mustache. Everybody did look like Mike ditka in the 90s.
Greg Cody
Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Did everyone look like Mike ditka in the 90s?
Dan LeBatard
I regret to inform you that the chat is calling you the not so little drummer boy.
Greg Cody
You didn't regret to inform me that. You delighted in informing me of that.
Dan LeBatard
Also Ham Reinhardt. Also Sergey Slo Brovsky.
Chris Cote
I do have some notes as a season ticket holder. That's right. Look at me, Louie. I see a lot of these drummers. I. I feel like I can critique this better than most. And you were awkward before and after, but your drumming was great. I really gotta say. The drumming itself, the rhythm, the pace was fine.
Mike Ryan
The chad says it was a good job. Surprisingly good for Matthew Kachunk.
Chris Cote
I mean, you know, your smile beforehand, the wave to the crowd, the thrusting of the arms afterwards. Awkward. But that's you, man. You're awkward.
Mike Ryan
Aaron Ekblob.
Stugotz
By the way, Happy Fat Tuesday. But seriously, that's all I got. Happy Fat Tuesday, Craig.
Greg Cody
Craig, you got the room rolling. You can't just. You can't keep going. You gotta stop and go. That's all I got. I got that one joke. You got, yes. Happy Fat Tuesday. And then you just throw the show right back to me.
Stugotz
Breathe.
Chris Cote
Also, you should try breathing during the drumming. My dad's right. Your face was super red.
Jessica
Yeah.
Stugotz
What happened? And a little fast.
Chris Cote
Didn't you think he was a little.
Jessica
I think it's hard with the live crowd to.
Mike Ryan
To.
Jessica
To figure that out. Exactly right.
Chris Cote
You want to be a little ahead of the crowd. And that part he nailed, you know?
Stugotz
You know what I would have paid to say. Remember a few weeks ago on the golf course, you had me hit an exploding golf ball? Yes, I would have paid.
Chris Cote
An exploding drum.
Stugotz
I would have paid to have an exploding drum where the first time he beat it, the drumstick went right through it because it was made out of, like, paper tissue.
Chris Cote
That would have been good.
Stugotz
It would have been great. He probably would have injured his arm. Totally worth it.
Mike Ryan
If I may just echo Chris's sentiment, I was really worried about this. I thought you were gonna embarrass yourself, maybe drop the stick, embarrass us, be socially Awkward and totally botch the cadence of it. I am so proud of you. This is a top three drummer that the Panthers have ever brought in. Yes, you were a little fast, but you almost have to be because you're in an arena and the chants lag a little bit. You were great. The energy that you brought to it was phenomenal. The hockey chat blew up. You did a really good job. And most importantly, I faded the Panthers when I learned that you were doing the drum, because I thought, this is going to be a disaster. You knocked it out the park, and the Panthers won a great game. You might be invited back. You're in the pantheon now.
Greg Cody
They told me. Well, I'll get to some of the stories from last night.
Mike Ryan
I definitely heard someone's phone.
Jessica
I didn't.
Greg Cody
That's your phone, Greg.
Stugotz
No, my phone's off.
Jessica
His phone's off.
Stugotz
That's fine.
Mike Ryan
Was that coming from your iPad?
Greg Cody
His phone's on. I can see it from right here. Like.
Jessica
Is that Greg's phone unraveled?
Greg Cody
Come on, Greg.
Stugotz
Turning it off right now.
Greg Cody
You got to pay the fine.
Stugotz
I will pay the fine.
Greg Cody
You got to pay the fine. You now know how to do it.
Stugotz
Yeah. Dolphin Danny.
Dan LeBatard
I regret to inform you that they're now calling you. What was it, Mike? Eric?
Stugotz
Ek.
Dan LeBatard
Flab.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Jessica
Nailed it.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Jessica
How does it feel knowing that you got Mike's hockey group chat's approval, Dan? That includes Ethan out there, Ryan Lomberger.
Greg Cody
All right. Please.
Dan LeBatard
Not good.
Greg Cody
Please, I implore you, because I have not checked in on any of this because it was actually. It was a. A delightfully silly night. But I do feel totally compromised in a way that makes Greg Cody's criticisms be totally fair. I've given. I don't know how you guys felt yesterday about having Sean McGill, Ron McGill's son, around, because we have tasked him with trying to put together quickly because we have some problems with nimble around here quickly in 24 hours, something that celebrates or looks at last night in a way that is actually showing where it is that I'm compromised in the places that journalism has changed, where I look like a fool up there doing that. But also Chris and Roy and Billy and Mike and Jessica are like, go. Well, Jessica. I don't know. Jessica understands the journalism of this, so she's like, well, you haven't been a journalist in a while. Go do that thing. But that would have embarrassed me at one point in my life, and it wouldn't have been very long ago when you say I haven't Written anything in six years, I've written the forward to two books. Two very popular books. But I've sold my soul to this thing.
Mike Ryan
Clearly, that's not journalism. Not at all. Is Stephen King a journalism?
Jessica
Yeah. Where's the jersey? What'd you do with the jersey? Why aren't you wearing it today?
Stugotz
Yeah, you should be.
Greg Cody
Well, that's the only time in my life I've ever worn a jersey.
Chris Cote
You look good in it.
Mike Ryan
I'm so happy that you showed up on time. How early in that game did you leave?
Chris Cote
Yeah. Did he make it to the second period?
Stugotz
That's the overall.
Mike Ryan
Did you see that?
Chris Cote
Third period was electric over under his second period.
Greg Cody
No, listen. So I insisted that my wife, who has not been to that height. Like, keep in mind, I'm going to that game, okay? I've been there five or six times over the last few years, but I'm going. Going to that game with my wife to show her. To show like a new fan. No, you're really going to love this. Wait till you see what it feels like when the Panthers score a goal. Okay, so I wasn't going to leave. Barkoff scores two. Last night. It was a great game. It's top of the food chain. And again you push Tampa Bay's face in it where you're like, no, we've passed you and your goalie's great and our goalie's better. And at the end of the game, seven tenths of a second left, they're hitting the post on a shot that should have been in it. Should have gone in. It would like. It's fun to watch those teams play hockey.
Mike Ryan
Right? But you caught that on tv because you were no longer there.
Greg Cody
I left after the first goal. We heard.
Chris Cote
Oh, what? No, he made it to the second period. So the overhit, the overhead.
Jessica
Why did you. Why.
Mike Ryan
Why was it. Why would you leave early?
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Jessica
Enjoy a night out.
Mike Ryan
It's an honor. It's an open bar in that Panther bar.
Jessica
Yeah. Who got the tickets? We didn't even talk.
Stugotz
Who got the tickets?
Greg Cody
Okay, we can get to the details in a. But Ron McGill's kid is gonna produce something for us that tackles some of the conundrum in this. But he works hard. I'm fine with you continuing to go down the path of questioning how stupid all of this is. Look at this. This is the most unflattering photo I've ever taken. And I've taken a few. Like, go ahead and close up on that.
Mike Ryan
You are selling yourself short. You've Taken way worse photos. That's actually. That counts as a good one these days.
Dan LeBatard
They're calling you Carter Verhangry.
Chris Cote
I thought the most awkward part for you was the wave to the crowd before you had these eyes on you, like you were looking at, like, a sandwich or something.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Jessica
What's the deal with the McGills? There's Ron and Rhonda, which is basically the same name, and then they name their child Sean, which is the same as Ron.
Chris Cote
It's Rita.
Greg Cody
It's Rita.
Jessica
Oh, Rita. Okay, never mind.
Chris Cote
If it was Rhonda, that would be.
Jessica
Why I thought it was Rhonda. So I didn't understand Beach Boy song.
Stugotz
Help me, Rita.
Jessica
That's right.
Chris Cote
Help me read.
Jessica
Help. Craig's right about that.
Chris Cote
Minor penalty. Two minutes stumbling.
Jessica
Hit the road.
Greg Cody
Jess, you can't. You can't call Rita Rhonda.
Jessica
I call her Mrs. McGill. Cause I'm respectful.
Greg Cody
As the centerpiece of your joke that falls apart as soon as her name's not Rita.
Mike Ryan
But don't worry. He's gonna get one wrong in, like, a couple minutes. He'll get him back.
Dan LeBatard
So, Greg, are you disappointed because he gave away his journalistic integrity and then only stayed for a period? Is that. It's like you didn't even get the full game out of it, Dan.
Jessica
Right?
Stugotz
Yeah. Like, he exposed himself as a cheerleader and then proved to be a bad one by not even saying for the entire game, if you're going to go all in, go all in. Right. Like, nobody who's ever banged that drum, not even Jack Nicklaus, has dared leave before the game was over.
Chris Cote
I don't think you know that.
Stugotz
Yeah, well, I have it on good.
Mike Ryan
Authority it's the first time I've seen one leave early. I've been in the Panther bar with such luminaries before, and they're always there in their jersey, proud to be there and rep the team and see the victory through.
Greg Cody
Oh, look, listen, just so everybody knows here, and, like, all the secret pockets that Miami has in cool places. The Miami Heat were trendsetters in a club town of, like, putting lounges in their facilities. What the Panthers have in their speakeasy for 30 people is the best thing I've ever seen in South Florida in terms of having taste in class. I have never seen anything like that. We've thrown Liv in nightclubs and stuff, but we've not done something like that. Like, South Florida does not have that kind of class in its sports arenas. So what they. No. When they. No. When they honor you. They do it correctly. Like, I will make fun of this today and we'll make fun of me, but it is a pleasure to see how it is that those people turned into champions. Like that has been. So I'm taking my wife. This is 30 years we've been. We covered the first game of this team together. To see it as a champion that's organized is something that's disorienting. Like to see them run correctly by management, have class, to be able to do things correctly, make the right trades. It's disorienting to go out to a swamp in the Everglades. Okay. Because it's impossible. How much if Canada saw where this place was. You think Messi's funny, playing in a dumpster in Fort Lauderdale?
Mike Ryan
Oh, I mean, it's only a couple years old.
Greg Cody
No, but I'm saying, you think that's funny, the idea that this exists here. If Canada knew that it's called sawgrass because that's how airboats travel through there. Like that is so far out west that my childhood has no recollection of anything being there other than dangerous. A champion lives there.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
I mean, look out the back of the Edmonton arena, too. Ain't much to write home about there either.
Greg Cody
I'm just saying what this thing has built that has competence after 30 years, like, yeah, there was something to being able to share with my wife the sound of a first goal. And also we left soon thereafter.
Mike Ryan
Get out of here. I will say the Panthers and other things have shown me, but the Panthers are a great local example of what instituting a culture means, provided that that culture is positive. Having worked for the previous ownership group, and I know I was there throughout a lockout and whatnot, but a night and day difference between cultures. I mean, the ownership group has West Point ties. It's pretty regimented. They have done everything first class and well, and it's trickled down to the front office and onto the ice, and they're reigning champions.
Stugotz
And they've also been very smart as a franchise to align themselves with Fort Lauderdale, to build their whole training facility there, to align with a bigger city, because, let's face it, they would rather be playing in downtown Fort Lauderdale than in Sunrise. But as it is, it's sort of the best of both. They are Broward's team proudly, and I think the last five, four or five years, they've been as good as any team in hockey. Bill Zito has had a masterclass in how to build a roster other than an aging goalkeeper that they're going to have to figure out how to replace.
Mike Ryan
But he was pretty good last night.
Greg Cody
I mean, slow down.
Stugotz
He's still great.
Mike Ryan
Spencer Knight, by the way, looked tremendous in his Blackhawks debut.
Greg Cody
But what's Cody doing? He's coming on. He's the reigning champion. Like, what are you doing?
Stugotz
Right.
Greg Cody
What are you doing to Bobrovski?
Mike Ryan
He was better than Basileski last night, and that's no small feat.
Stugotz
You're right, because Tampa's got, I think, the best goalkeeping in the league. Right.
Greg Cody
What are you doing to Bobrovsky? Like, why are you retiring?
Chris Cote
I agree with my dad. Of all the players they have under contract, he's their best player that's coming up for a new deal semi soon in like a year or two.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, he's in his mid-30s now, but it's a.
Jessica
We also wrote him off like two seasons ago.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Chris Cote
Oh, did I hate him two years ago.
Mike Ryan
Very true.
Jessica
Then he got hot at the right time.
Greg Cody
Barkov, too.
Jessica
The two were standing.
Greg Cody
Barkov too?
Mike Ryan
No, Barkov was terrible to us in that postseason, but he. Yeah, now he's an all time legend of the franchise. Probably the franchise's greatest player. Dan, did you have the smoked Old Fashioned?
Greg Cody
I had it as a mezcal. Yeah. I didn't.
Mike Ryan
Well, how. For my money, the best one in South Florida.
Greg Cody
I didn't do that with whiskey. Yes, because whiskey will. Brown liquor will give me terrible sweats and I will look worse than. Than here. But when. When I'm telling you about class in a place. Right. And this is where I can be bought as a cheerleader. But in my history of going to. When the Dolphins open live because they want to be the cool thing or the heater. Opening nightclubs in their arena before, that's a popular thing to do. To have a speakeasy that is that private for 30 people where you're transported into the past. I invited Cody to come with me last night. He declined. For all the mocking he's doing of me, only lasting two periods. He declined the VIP tickets of this experience. I offered it to him. He can't be bothered. Even though it's just a few feet from his house. The people here indeed will not make it out there. Michael go there sometimes, but that's a Broward. Like, the people will not travel from here to there. The folks from Meadowlark who showed up last night are people who live in Broward. It's too much of a hike for people in Dade.
Chris Cote
It's three hours and it's closer than Stugatz House. Everyone always is like, I can't do that. It's like Stugot's does it a lot.
Stugotz
Very convenient to.
Dan LeBatard
Not that often.
Mike Ryan
It's fair. I know what you're trying to do. The Lakers probably deserve credit for inventing clubs in arenas, but anybody can really gain access to Hyde these days at the American Airlines Arena. What you had is for VIPs only.
Chris Cote
I was gonna say I've never been in the speakeasy.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, you gotta know somebody or be somebody to get in there.
Greg Cody
So this is what you're walking into. Right. Because what I'm saying, it's one thing for a champion to just be a champion and then know you're walking into class. You remember in football, when the depart the Bartle. The DeBartolos were running the sport, and it felt like they were a little bit classier than everybody else. Like, they were. They did a lot of nice things for their players. They spent an inordinate amount of money, and San Francisco was viewed as winning championships and also doing it with class and having sort of like a mafia crime family feel to.
Mike Ryan
I think you're just doing an Italian thing.
Greg Cody
I'm. I'm not. But no, this is.
Mike Ryan
This was Corman policy. Did look like a boss.
Greg Cody
No, I'm.
Stugotz
Look.
Greg Cody
Thank you, please. Carmen Policy and DeBartolo. Put them up here and tell me if I'm doing Italian mafia or if they were actually mafia. Now go read about DeBartolo's crimes.
Mike Ryan
I know policy was with the Browns when they relaunched. I'm well aware.
Greg Cody
Okay, go read all of what that was. The Panthers, what I'm walking into in that speakeasy, that's just. The class is already there. Right. Like, I've been treated well at any number of places that I go in South Florida, but in this place, I was treated well when they opened the door. It's what everybody gets there. And so, like, we just don't have a lot of places like that in South Florida. And it's a speakeasy because it's hidden.
Mike Ryan
I do think you're probably reading too much into them, treating you like you were the guest of honor.
Jessica
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Because you were. You were the guest of honor. And I'm just saying, if I'm traveling down from the 300 level, I'm not gonna get the same experience.
Chris Cote
But we do have the J. Mo Bar A.
Dan LeBatard
Do they have giant ice cubes at that bar? Because I'm assuming the. The speakeasies got. You're. You're having a giant ice cube in.
Chris Cote
Your I imagine those ice cubes at the speakeas are like the Panthers logo.
Dan LeBatard
Those ice cubes. I love giant ice cubes.
Stugotz
I do too.
Mike Ryan
The wine selection at the tastes better with a giant. You ask for a cabernet and they give you something that's older than you. It's crazy.
Jessica
We got a very different experience where the Panthers said you guys are welcome to come as well in exchange for $37 and you can sit in the nosebleeds. So yeah, it's very different experience. I think that it's plus fees and parking and you can sit up there and you will not look at us.
Dan LeBatard
Directly in the eyes and no giant ice cubes.
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Chris Cote
Don LeBatard, our Panther Group chat. We're confident against the lighting. This is a different team.
Jessica
You're a Panther group chat.
Chris Cote
No, No. I think no.
Greg Cody
But dude, you're.
Chris Cote
You're so wrong on that. We've been terrified of this team forever and I think there's a different energy where the Panthers, they want the lightning stugats.
Greg Cody
I want T shirts made for this Panther run. What could be this Panther run? Our Panther group chat. We're not afraid of the lightning.
Mike Ryan
That's a Tagline for World Raw 3.
Jessica
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.
Greg Cody
I hate that that's how the messaging got to you guys because. Because Cynthia and Roy and Kristen were all with us. And it would have been all of Us there, but nobody came from here. Like, we would have all been in the speakeasy and had it to ourselves, and we would have just sat there for a while with Sean Thornton, who I met. So I meet Sean Thornton like this.
Stugotz
No.
Chris Cote
What'd you call him?
Greg Cody
No, no. This. You'll find this funny. You will find all of this funny knowing what you know about Sean Thornton and his entire career. You know what? It's 20 years he played in the league as a fighter. I shake his hand, and it is. It reminded me of, like, the way the Heat people run a military organization over there. Like Sean Horton. Sean is in charge of revenue. Thornton. I'm sorry. Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Thorny, not Horty.
Greg Cody
Sean is in charge of revenue over there because he, like, knows how to be a champion and knows how to fight and has some sort of military discipline that keeps him in the league 20 years. And so I shake his hand, and upon shaking it, it was a reflex. I couldn't even help it. I'm like, you look like hockey.
Mike Ryan
He does.
Greg Cody
And he stared straight at me, and he didn't know whether it was a compliment or an insult. And I'm like, it's pretty neutral. You just look like hockey. I think you should be proud of that. I think you were formed by hockey.
Jessica
But he's put in charge of revenue because he knows how to fight.
Mike Ryan
No, he's actually, like, a really bright guy, and he's got. He's been in that role for a very long time as they've turned their whole finances around. Yeah, he does look like hockey. That's a good job. I'm wondering how he would absorb that. What do you look like?
Greg Cody
Well, this is the thing. Yes, I look like a meatball. But what he took it as, because eventually, after a moment where he was trying to decide whether I was complimenting him or insulting him, and I was neither. It was a reflex. You just look like hockey. He finally said, yeah, I've had my nose broken a lot, but it's because he had a square head I would not want to punch.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. So he took it as an insult. He probably meant it as an insult.
Greg Cody
I did not mean it. I did not mean. It is an insult. I am impressed by people. The battle scars of hockey are crazy. Mike's sitting here always arguing that the hockey players are tougher than football players.
Mike Ryan
They are. They're the toughest athletes. What they put their bodies through daily to go out there, their lack of complaints. I think that they are the toughest athletes in sport right now. And it's ingrained in their culture. They stay quiet about it. Matthew Tkachuk is out two months because he dared try to play with something that is, you know, just as hurt today as it was then. It's a, it's a crazy sport. They're really tough guys.
Dan LeBatard
By the way, it's crazy that Tkachuk got hurt in the Four nations tournament.
Greg Cody
Right.
Dan LeBatard
I mean, seems like a good argument for having those things not be super competitive so people don't try so they. That they don't get hurt.
Mike Ryan
Was. It wasn't the only one. Charlie McAvoy is going to be out for an extended period of time. Like everyone's kind of upset with the training stat.
Greg Cody
Jessica. I tried to make that argument to these loons who flew up there to drink beer in Canada last week and they ran me out of the room telling me how important it is to play for, for your patriotic country and try your very hardest. Even if you lose, it's going to. You've seen what the top of hockey is. The margins are very small. There are 10 teams as good as the Panthers and we assume the Panthers will win because we just saw them do it. But hockey is funny that way and you can get knocked out in the second round because there are a lot of good teams in hockey. I wouldn't want to lose Kachuk for the second half of the season.
Chris Cote
Worth it.
Stugotz
Worth it.
Mike Ryan
Totally worth it. Country before club.
Stugotz
Totally worth it.
Jessica
If you, if you, you closed the deal. You didn't. So now was it worth it? Like if you win the Four nations, it's definitely worth it Now. I think it's a debate.
Mike Ryan
I think that's one of the more iconic moments in American hockey. Going up to Montreal, beating them, and the tone was set by the two brothers fighting inside of five seconds of one another. That's like in terms of marketability, those siblings are going to be in tons of commercials. I think it was a great moment for the sport. Matthew Tkachuk went on the Tonight Show a week later. Yeah, I think it was great for the game. That tournament was great for the game. And the fact that our, one of our best players got hurt during it. Look, it's going to happen and I'm happy that he went all out for it. As someone that paid hard earned money to go up there and support the US Hockey team, I'm glad that the effort matched the investment.
Stugotz
Yeah, that was a big. The Four nations was a big part of the NHL. Just absolutely having a moment. Now you've got ovechkin chasing Gretzky. You just had the stadium series game that drew 95,000 people to Ohio Stadium. Him. It's a. It's a big time for NHL hockey for sure. Oh, but I wanted to ask you, Dan, Dolph and Danny transition, when you were in the speakeasy, were there any actual stars there other than a former player?
Jessica
Sean Thornton.
Greg Cody
Why didn't you. Why didn't you go?
Stugotz
Why didn't I go?
Greg Cody
It's 10 minutes from your home, and I gave you four hours notice.
Jessica
But he would have been alone with Sean Thornton for two hours after you left.
Greg Cody
He wouldn't have been alone. We were there with our. With Cynthia and Roy.
Stugotz
And if my wife. If my wife, who is a hockey fan, could have made it, I would have possibly gone with her.
Jessica
Oh, there you go.
Stugotz
Yeah. You know, I don't want to leave her alone.
Jessica
It's Rhonda's fault.
Chris Cote
That's rich. What you're leaning on. I didn't want to leave my wife.
Stugotz
You know, I'm. I'm a hubby.
Jessica
Hubby. Hubby, yeah.
Stugotz
How about hubba, hubby, hubby? No, I. I considered going. Whether you take it as a personal insult that I didn't go. What? You wearing a cheerleader outfit, banging a drum? Come on. I saw the video. You know, a little quick on the pace, but as has been said, better that than a little slow. You did the best you could, by the way. Are you missing something? Oh, here it is. Your integrity. Hang on.
Greg Cody
What is meant to represent my integrity? What did you just pull?
Stugotz
Integrity.
Greg Cody
Okay. I thought you actually picked something up and put it there. Physical form to me. I actually saw you put something there.
Dan LeBatard
That was better than Adrian Brody's performance.
Greg Cody
He. Maybe he could be a movie star. Maybe as well. If. If I'm there to fall for the joke. Hook, line, and sinker, because I was looking. What's he doing? Is this going to be comed? Competent, comedy executed integrity.
Stugotz
Thank you.
Greg Cody
So I would think that you would want to come see that up close, though, so that you could laugh in person, because you and I have been covering sports in this market for 30 years. Jimmy Johnson's retiring here. That was announced yesterday, finally, after they teased us at the super bowl. And we wondered about it for a while, and we've seen what sports has become in this town. You and I aligned journalistically throughout, had a chance to celebrate me at the top of a champion's den in a. In a. In a speakeasy, and I invited you to the party and you declined. It's 10 minutes from your house. What were you doing?
Stugotz
Well, it's probably more than. It's probably like 20 minutes in. In fairness, particularly if it's early rush hour on a weekday, what was I doing? I was living my life. Life. You know, I was. I was. You know, I don't trail in the perfume of celebrity. You know, I. I was living on a normal man's life. I was in my backyard getting ready for bulk pickup, which is Thursday. Got a big, beautiful pile out on my swale.
Jessica
Wow.
Stugotz
You know, I'm doing regular guy things. I'm a man of the people. I always say that you speak easy. You know, had you told me it was a speakeasy with an open bar, I might have gone. You know, I might have gone.
Greg Cody
But I told your wife it was maximum vip. She couldn't go. So I invited you and your son.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, well, now I'm hearing differing. Could your wife not make it even if she was invited?
Stugotz
She could not. No, she.
Dan LeBatard
Because I'm with you. I. If I'm going to a work thing after hours, I'd like to bring Lehman. I don't want to just come by myself.
Greg Cody
Well, they were fighting. Chris, and at one point, Chris and Greg were fighting over the second ticket because I invited Erlene, and I made her make a choice, and she chose Greg Craig, who declined to come.
Jessica
Well, what happened to Chris? Because he didn't go either way.
Greg Cody
Well, I thought Chris was going on his own tickets, and I wasn't sure what was happening there. And I think he gave away his tickets because he thought he was going to get the ticket.
Dan LeBatard
I was communicating about tickets this difficult among, like, four people.
Chris Cote
I was traveling back from vacation, so I gave my tickets away before I knew about the dance stuff. Like, last week, I was like, I don't want to go to the game. So I didn't have tickets. And then I heard, oh, there's two tickets. Who's going? And then all of a sudden, my dad and my mom were going, and then they weren't, and I got back.
Greg Cody
But yesterday, I heard your father speak into his phone. Speakeasy into his phone. No sweet, period. He texted to you. No sweet. And that was you two checking out. Well, if we don't get the VIP treatment, then we're not going. And then I gave you the VIP treatment, and your family was fighting over it, and she chose you to go, and you declined.
Stugotz
And where would. After the speakeasy, once the game starts, where would I have been seated?
Greg Cody
There. There you Watch the game there from seats. They're.
Stugotz
They're good seats from the speakeasy?
Greg Cody
Yes. No.
Chris Cote
Oh, yeah.
Stugotz
Wow.
Chris Cote
There's seats in the speakeasy. Sorry, I've never been. Like I said, yes.
Stugotz
Well, there was confusion here because when I left the studio, I was, I was.
Greg Cody
I told your wife. The reason your wife was going and wanted to go is because I told her, this will be maximum vip. Maximum vip, Right. That's what I told your wife. And so she knew and that's why Chris wanted to go. And this was after you had texted, no, Sweet, period. And now I'm telling you, sweet, sweet. This is the good stuff right here.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Greg Cody
And you said, no, thank you, I've got man stuff to do.
Stugotz
Well, had it been a 7:30 or 8:00 start, I might have gone. I made a quick call to the Panthers saying, hey, any way you can delay the start of the game by a half hour? They wouldn't do it. They were very uncooperative.
Chris Cote
Dan did the same thing.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
Why would Greg go to a Panther speakeasy when he was around? When we had real speakeasies back in.
Stugotz
The day, I remember, well, just after prohibition, those things bloomed like a flower all over the country.
Greg Cody
I don't know if the rest of you are as disoriented to see excellent excellence rise up there. Mike, you worked for him from the beginning, man. You know that There are so many skeletons they're digging up from 30 years of bad management. Like it's. It's hard to explain to the country how to. To the continent how close this thing was to falling apart because the business of it was handled so poorly.
Mike Ryan
Like, was constantly bandied about as a team that was going to relocate. Probably the worst ownership group in professional major sports down here in South Florida. And that's saying a lot. Yeah, night and day difference. Thank God for Vinnie Viola and his team. They all have West Point ties over there. And this whole organization, top down, got regimented and disciplined and had to rebuild and dig themselves out, not just with the community, but with local businesses too. Michael Yormark had a lot of shady sponsorship deals. Oh, Yormark gave a lot of added value, set terrible precedent. And it was very difficult for the Florida Panthers to price out sponsorships given what Michael Yormark had given away so flippantly. So from a business standpoint, they even had a tougher road to cross than they did on the ice. And they had plenty of road to cross when it came to the hockey operation side. But, yeah, It's a great story. And they've built a young nucleus that should really, four generations, make an impact because they're aiming for their third consecutive Stanley Cup Final. They still have a youngish core. They've had guys, which is insane to say because Barkov has been here for a decade, but he's now entering the prime of his career. They have a marketable face, and Matthew Tkachuk, an American face. Everything about this franchise continues to point up. It's not a flash in the pan. And the only thing that's unfortunate is where they're located can't really, really revitalize an area the way that the arena and the Lightning have revitalized downtown Tampa. If they did that now, if they were having this run in downtown Fort Lauderdale, you would see a real community come together as opposed to just one. One kind of popping up in the parking lot.
Greg Cody
No, but. No. Yes. You're talking about a larger community and how a sport grows in a market that can make it difficult, as they do the things that Tampa already did. And it disorients Canada to see Florida dominates hockey. Because this is like what I was watching last night. All of it. Barkov, two goals. Like, it's. You could tell you're at the top of the sport. It's Monday night, and when you mention community. No, those people. That place is sold out. And it shakes. And it's crowd was loud.
Mike Ryan
You got them fired.
Greg Cody
Well, that's.
Mike Ryan
You did. You did. That's a. That's a big job. Like, Game seven was haunted for the Stanley Cup Final. As terrifying of a venue as I have ever walked into. Everyone was scared. And then Roberto Luongo goes out there and hypes the crowd up with an epic drum performance. And he kind of could rest a little easy, get into the game a little bit. You set the tone, man.
Chris Cote
Did this Luongo thing fire me up? Because I remember being a little skeptical of Luongo doing it. It.
Greg Cody
Roberto almost broke the drum.
Jessica
Legendary goaltender for the Florida Panthers and.
Greg Cody
Now a special advisor to their general manager.
Chris Cote
Man, goosebumps. Bring me back to that.
Jessica
Do they give you guys, like, smelling salts before you do it? Cuz, like, you all look kind of insane.
Greg Cody
I mean, I. I'm scared. That doesn't surprise me.
Dan LeBatard
Dan can't have salt. We have been over this.
Mike Ryan
So you. You were nervous before you did this, right?
Greg Cody
I told you I didn't want to.
Mike Ryan
Do it because you thought you were gonna like all of us. You thought that you were gonna screw it up somehow.
Greg Cody
I was going no. Yes. Yes, of course. No. But no, that's part of it. But that's only. That's. That's one small part of it. The other part of it that is legitimate for me, man. I turned down two Miami Heat parades. Okay? And those people are my legitimate friends. Like I've the organization. I've been around those people for 30 years. And I turn that down because I'm not that far in sensibilities from where Greg resides on this. I deserve whatever mockery he's giving me today because this is the end of my career. Selling out the morsels of journalism that I used to be.
Mike Ryan
That was. That was 11 years ago and 12 years ago you were an actual journalist back then.
Stugotz
Yeah. I could see you turning down the Heat parades. It's good you did that.
Chris Cote
It's hot out there.
Jessica
Disagree. You should have known you were going to sell out and sold out and gotten the cool perks. Now it's just you're banging a drum in a Panthers jersey.
Greg Cody
Right.
Jessica
And you missed the two championship parades. Parades. He should have known he had the smoke.
Mike Ryan
Mescal.
Jessica
Well that's true. And Sean Thornton.
Chris Cote
Billy's right though. Everyone does seem to be jacked up for this. Let's play Jack Nicholas doing it.
Greg Cody
Please welcome 18 time BTA major winner Jack Nicholas.
Jessica
Bring the energy. He's normally in a bed. So.
Greg Cody
He'S playing a xylophone.
Mike Ryan
Looks like he's playing a triangle.
Stugotz
Tap that drone.
Chris Cote
He's moving. Only his wrist tapping.
Stugotz
It.
Chris Cote
Does seem just.
Mike Ryan
It seems just as loud.
Jessica
I don't think there's a trick to it.
Greg Cody
Okay.
Jessica
It's all in the wrist.
Greg Cody
Okay. So I don't. I don't know how I. I don't know. Maybe we can play it out here. I'd actually like to discuss this with you. I believe all of you would have been more confident than I was doing this. Every one of you.
Mike Ryan
I don't doubt that. Not at all.
Jessica
How we played out.
Greg Cody
I don't know. I think we should go get a drum in another room and show. I think we should show everybody how because everyone's going to have their criticisms today.
Mike Ryan
No, we. We. We're the only person criticizing you is universal praise.
Dan LeBatard
Honestly.
Jessica
You're your hardest.
Mike Ryan
Still thinks that you're a journalist.
Jessica
Toughest critic here.
Stugotz
Dude.
Chris Cote
Your face was awkward but it always is.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, you looked like you were going to pass out but like you were doing strenuous activity for you.
Mike Ryan
I thought you fainting was a high probability. Not.
Jessica
I thought you were going to trip on your shoelaces to what? Greg said you did the best job you could and we're proud of you.
Stugotz
Best he could.
Dan LeBatard
I thought you were going to start crying. Maybe.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, that would not have surprised me either. You crying?
Stugotz
Emotional nightmare.
Greg Cody
Come on, man. Really? So if, if when the camera comes up to me instead of waving, I'm just weeping? Yeah, that was exactly.
Mike Ryan
I thought that was more likely than what actually happened.
Chris Cote
Maybe you start interviewing the drum. What was your status?
Jessica
Everglades used to be so low.
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By the way, who hit you the hardest?
Mike Ryan
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Summary of "Local Hour: The Not-So-Little Drummer Boy"
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz brings its signature blend of sports commentary, pop culture insights, and lively banter from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami. In the episode titled "Local Hour: The Not-So-Little Drummer Boy," released on March 4, 2025, host Dan Le Batard and co-host Stugotz engage in a spirited discussion centered around Dan’s recent foray into cheerleading for the Florida Panthers, the team's evolving culture, and noteworthy events in the South Florida sports scene.
The episode kicks off with a humorous yet critical examination of Dan Le Batard’s unexpected role as a cheerleader for the Florida Panthers. Stugotz opens the topic with a light-hearted jab:
Stugotz [02:07]: "Homer Dan...the next time you call me a homer...cheerleading for the Florida Panthers. Where's your pom pom today? Where's your skirt?"
This sets the tone for the ensuing friendly mockery from the team. The discussion delves into Dan’s performance, referencing a Variety headline and offering both praise and constructive criticism:
Stugotz [03:21]: "You beat the drum pretty well, a little fast on the pace...you wear it on your shoulders like an ox with a big yolk now."
Mike Ryan chimes in with supportive feedback:
Mike Ryan [08:44]: "Surprisingly good for Matthew Kachunk...your energy was phenomenal. You knocked it out of the park."
Despite the playful teasing, the consensus among the hosts is positive, acknowledging Dan’s effort and the enthusiasm he brought to the role.
The conversation shifts to planning and attending exclusive events, particularly focusing on the speakeasy experience associated with the Florida Panthers. Greg Cody expresses his admiration for the Panthers' new VIP lounges:
Greg Cody [16:12]: "The Panthers have built a young nucleus...they have a marketable face, and Matthew Tkachuk, an American face. Everything about this franchise continues to point up."
However, tensions arise when discussing Dan’s decision to decline an invitation to the speakeasy, leading to a light-hearted confrontation:
Greg Cody [34:25]: "You invited Cody to come with me last night. He declined."
Stugotz defends his absence:
Stugotz [35:07]: "I was living my life...doing regular guy things."
The exchange highlights the camaraderie and teasing nature among the hosts, emphasizing their long-standing relationships and mutual respect despite the jabs.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing the Florida Panthers' transformation under new management. Mike Ryan provides an in-depth look into the positive cultural shift within the organization:
Mike Ryan [18:03]: "The ownership group has West Point ties. It's pretty regimented...the Panthers are reigning champions."
Greg Cody echoes this sentiment, appreciating the disciplined approach and strategic moves:
Greg Cody [38:39]: "They've built a young nucleus...aiming for their third consecutive Stanley Cup Final."
The hosts commend the franchise's management for steering the team towards success, contrasting it with past mismanagement and highlighting the importance of a positive organizational culture in achieving athletic excellence.
The discussion also covers recent events in the hockey world, notably the Four Nations Tournament and the unfortunate injuries sustained by key players like Matthew Tkachuk and Charlie McAvoy. Mike Ryan emphasizes the toughness of hockey players:
Mike Ryan [30:11]: "They are the toughest athletes in sport right now...Matthew Tkachuk is out two months because he dared to play hard."
The hosts debate the competitiveness of such tournaments and the balance between showcasing national pride and ensuring player safety. Greg Cody reflects on the emotional impact of player injuries on the team and fanbase:
Greg Cody [31:28]: "I wouldn't want to lose Kachuk for the second half of the season."
Despite the setbacks, the overall tone remains optimistic about the team's prospects and the resilience of its players.
Returning to the topic of the Panthers' speakeasy, the hosts critique the exclusivity of such venues, contrasting it with broader community engagement:
Greg Cody [22:28]: "They have a speakeasy that is that private for 30 people...It's hidden."
Mike Ryan and Jessica discuss the accessibility and the allure of VIP-only spaces, with Jessica noting the disparity between exclusive lounges and general access areas:
Jessica [23:24]: "It's very different experience. I think that it's plus fees and parking and you can sit up there and you will not look at us."
The conversation underscores the balance sports franchises must strike between offering premium experiences and fostering inclusive community support.
As the episode progresses towards its conclusion, the hosts continue their playful banter, reflecting on Dan’s performance and the implications of his new role. They commend his effort while maintaining their trademark teasing:
Dan LeBatard [41:14]: "By the way, it's crazy that Tkachuk got hurt in the Four nations tournament."
Greg Cody [44:38]: "Each of you would have been more confident than I was doing this."
The episode wraps up with a collective acknowledgment of Dan's endeavors, reinforcing the supportive yet humorous dynamic among the hosts.
Stugotz [02:07]: "Homer Dan...cheerleading for the Florida Panthers. Where's your pom pom today? Where's your skirt?"
Stugotz [03:21]: "You beat the drum pretty well, a little fast on the pace...you wear it on your shoulders like an ox with a big yolk now."
Mike Ryan [08:44]: "Surprisingly good for Matthew Kachunk...your energy was phenomenal. You knocked it out of the park."
Greg Cody [16:12]: "The Panthers have built a young nucleus...they have a marketable face, and Matthew Tkachuk, an American face. Everything about this franchise continues to point up."
Mike Ryan [30:11]: "They are the toughest athletes in sport right now...Matthew Tkachuk is out two months because he dared to play hard."
Greg Cody [38:39]: "They've built a young nucleus...aiming for their third consecutive Stanley Cup Final."
"Local Hour: The Not-So-Little Drummer Boy" offers listeners an entertaining glimpse into the camaraderie and candid discussions that define The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz. Through humor, insightful commentary, and spirited debates, the hosts navigate topics ranging from personal endeavors and team dynamics to broader sports culture, delivering a rich and engaging episode that resonates with both dedicated fans and casual listeners alike.