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Jon Weiner
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Dan Le Batard
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Jon Weiner
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Jon Weiner
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Jon Weiner
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Amin Elhassan
Parts, this is the Dan Levatar show.
Jon Weiner
With the Stugats podcast. You guys seem a little hungover today. It seems like all of you are a little slow. I don't know if Amin has had problems with the draft. I understand that Jeremy is tired because he and I have done three shows in 24 hours. But I don't know why the rest of you are so spent and I'm going to need some help from you on the draft because Metal Arc Media again, a failure at scheduling. Didn't realize that after the NBA season, after the NHL season as we picked a dead spot to try and do a baseball show that we chose the date of the NBA draft to do it. So I didn't watch anything last night. The watch I wasn't able to see what what happened in the draft. Do you guys have the good stuff?
Amin Elhassan
Oh, we got the good stuff.
Greg Cody
Got the good stuff. Just as a word of advice for the future, say hey, let's do XYZ on X date. Number one thing. Just Google X date in sports.
Jon Weiner
Yeah. Have people to do that for me. Have a lot of people to do that for me. Yeah, I was hoping not to have to do that for myself.
Amin Elhassan
You know what they say though, Dan? If you want something, right?
Jon Weiner
That's not what they say. That's not how they say it.
Amin Elhassan
You gotta do it yourself.
Jon Weiner
Dano, you're missing a letter. There on how they say our word there on how they say it.
Greg Cody
It's like there's a stop before, hey, is Kirkshen available? Hey, is Kirk Shin's son available? Hey, is Samson. Before you get to all those, oh, far away. Hey, let me pick up a phone and reach out to people. Just start with something happened on that day.
Jon Weiner
Let's get Jeremy to explain himself. He's busy trying to cut up sound of Tim Kirkshum. We went four straight hours last night. Thanks to everybody who participated in that. It was great fun, and you're welcome. I actually believe your contributions were really minimal. Like, surprisingly minimal.
Greg Cody
Mine, Look, I provided a boost in the beginning. People were like, do I really want to do this or not? The draft is on. And then I appeared, and everyone was like, oh, let's get excited.
Chris Cote
He couldn't have done less than Greg Cody.
Jon Weiner
He did somehow do less than Greg Cody. Greg Cody went on, bowled a strike, and did something that was entertaining. Amin walked into the room, used a microphone that wasn't his, mumbled poorly before the draft, and then left like it was. There was nothing in it. Amin came in, gave us nothing, and then left. It was just his face.
Billy Gil
What did he say?
Greg Cody
I broke the news because Dan doesn't pay attention. I broke the news that John Collins picked up his player option, $25.6 million.
Amin Elhassan
Wow.
Greg Cody
And I shook my head in disgust and disbelief at the collection of people, and then I walked out. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is called efficiency.
Jon Weiner
Is there a bigger story from the NBA draft, I mean, than what are the Pelicans doing? Not that it is a chief story, but what are the Pelicans doing? The Pelicans have not been a relev franchise their entire time in the league. They have spoiled and soured whatever it is that Zion Williamson was supposed to be. And one of their best runs in terms of leadership is when David Griffin brought his credibility there, and he has since been fired. Stan Van Gundy also gone. Don't know what that franchise is doing. Don't know if anyone cares.
Greg Cody
Yeah. I mean, look, Joe Dumars comes in and he's got an edict to kind of, like, fix this thing, but not trade Zion, I guess, because he's come in and he's kind of thrown his support behind Zion Williamson and draft day. I just. Let me just say, put it this way. It was confusing trying to figure out what they were trying to do on draft day because, for one, they gave up a lot, I felt, to move up to the 10 pick. To the pick where they took Derrick Queen, right? Which it's not lost upon me, that name is incredibly close to Dairy Queen. But they gave up an unprotected first round pick next year, which is a very, very bold statement, right? In the NBA, when you trade your unprotected future first round pick for any.
Jon Weiner
Future and you're banned.
Greg Cody
Well, let's just say any future, no matter what who you are, the bet you're saying is, I bet you this guy's going to be so good it won't even matter by the time that pick happens. Oh, it'll be something that we're okay with giving up with because this guy is so good. But the Pelicans are awful. They don't have an identity. They're in flux. The roster is in clear and they traded next year's first round pick. So in essence you're basically saying, oh, no, right now. This, this pick right now is going to change everything. So then you say, okay, well, who'd you got? You got Cooper Flag, right? You got like a transformational player. You got Derrick Queen, a guy who a lot of people like, has a lot of talent, but kind of have. If you read the scouting report, it's almost like we're talking about Zion Williamson. Hey, conditioning is an issue. Hey, he's really skilled, but Is he a 4? Is he a 5? Everything you see about him is like, wait a second, we already have one of those. So now we got two guys who we don't know what position they play and they can't shoot well enough and they're kind of. The conditioning is an issue and we are betting that right away it's going to be perfect. We're not. This pick isn't going to be any good to where unprotected status is an issue.
Amin Elhassan
You figured that if they would have offered protection status on the pick, Atlanta still would have said yes at some point, right? And like you look at Derrick Queen and what he's able to provide.
Jon Weiner
It really does sound like. It really does.
Greg Cody
Dq.
Amin Elhassan
Can I come?
Billy Gil
Dq.
Jon Weiner
Does that work, Derrick? Dairy Queen has to sponsor. The Pelicans has to sponsor.
Billy Gil
No choice.
Chris Cote
I want other names in sports that give off restaurants. I'm going to.
Billy Gil
I'll get back to you.
Greg Cody
That's a good one.
Jon Weiner
Okay.
Greg Cody
That's a good one, Chris.
Amin Elhassan
You look at his skill set though, and it's like basically just a less athletic Zion Williamson. So now you've got Dairy. Dairy Queen running out there and you've got Zion Williamson. Who wants Dairy Queen running out there at the same time? The spacing is going to be weird. They both kind of can't shoot. The team is weird in general.
Jon Weiner
And.
Amin Elhassan
And then you give up probably the most coveted asset of the next year's draft for 10 spots from 23 to 13 to pick a guy who you have already. And then you're going to trade Zion.
Billy Gil
Williamson this year, Dairy Queen playing at the Smoothie King Center.
Greg Cody
Oh, boy.
Billy Gil
Synchronicity. I mean, it's perfect. He has no choice.
Chris Cote
I can ask. Can I ask a question here?
Amin Elhassan
If you.
Chris Cote
If the most interesting story from your draft is about the Pelicans, you had an uninteresting draft, right?
Greg Cody
No, like the most interesting story like that the mainstream people talk about. Cooper flag went one. Wow, that's amazing.
Amin Elhassan
And then Ace Bailey is a good story.
Greg Cody
Ace Bailey going to the Jazz despite him not wanting to go to the Jazz. I mean, there are other things, but Dan asked me a basketball question. I answered like a basketball guy.
Jon Weiner
Well, I did ask you that question because I am trying to figure out again, three shows in 24 hours, and I'm explaining to the audience why it is that I'm not as informed as I need to be on the NBA draft. If you've been listening to this show for a while, you know that the draft in general, all the drafts are meant markets that I find a bit offensive on how it is the owners figure out how to control themselves by fixing the costs and then just turning these all into auctions. Don't like them as entertainment and don't like the information that comes out after them because so many people are guessing. But more so than ever in basketball, when I got all these people telling me how good the heats draft pick is, when so many of us have not watched the heats draft pick. And I just asked Amin before the show, how do I pronounce this person's name? And didn't have confidence in the way he pronounced it?
Greg Cody
No, I pronounced again.
Jon Weiner
I'm not blaming you. You got it right. Yeah, you got it right. I didn't have confidence in the way that you pronounced it. But as we go all over the world now, something that was already subjective becomes this, okay? Because I know Bill Simmons is saying the Pelicans making that pick. That's one of the five dumbest trades of this decade. But Jake Fisher is getting roasted because after the Blazers picked Yang Hansen from China, a Nugget source texted me, Chinese Jokic.
Amin Elhassan
They took him out of the stands. Dan. He was in the stands. With the commoners. They didn't even put him on the floor. He walked out with his white suit.
Jon Weiner
I'm saying if it was unknown before, if the draft was a subjective stupidity before, that confounds even the executives who run the Pelicans and the executives who get fired for this subjective thing that we treat as science. How much more arbitrary is it now that you're grabbing an assortment of players? Because there are more foreign players now than there have ever been, that literally no one who's watching the draft has seen play at all?
Greg Cody
Yeah. So. All right. It's always dangerous when people make these kind of player comps before the draft. One of the most famous ones ever. There was a draft website back in the day that had DeSean Stevenson's player comp as Michael Jordan. What? This is real. You can look it up. And so. But this is the danger you get in Yang Hansen or Hanson. Yang, however you pronounce his name. He's basically 20 years old. He turns 20 today. He just turned 20 today. Right. Played in China professionally. But we know that playing professionally in China has kind of certain boosters to it that you might look a lot better than you actually are in the.
Jon Weiner
Way that, yes, Stephon Marbury goes over there and scores 90 points a game, if that's what you mean by certain boosters.
Greg Cody
Boosters. Marbury is a bad example. A better example is like Emmanuel Moudier is a dominant player. Stuff like that. Right. So there's a lot of questions. Whenever people make these comps, I always go back to. Wait a second. Do you remember what this guy was like in the draft? Right. Jokic was coming from playing high level basketball in Serbia. This guy's coming from China. Right. And that's not saying you can't play.
Jon Weiner
Whatever.
Greg Cody
I'm just saying when you make these comps, they're dangerous. In the same way that Jeremy was trying to tell me about the Heat draft pick. Oh, this guy's guy's Dragic. I'm like Yaku Jonas is defined as a six' six guy with questionable athleticism. Right. Dragic was an out of the gym athlete. Front to back, side to side, vertically. Right. He was an incredible athlete. So it's like the comp we're making here is in this case, two international white guys.
Billy Gil
Yeah. Well, that's what you get in a lot of scouting reports. Because the scouting reports on Casper Jaco Jonas were Austin Reeves and Goran Dragic.
Amin Elhassan
Who.
Billy Gil
I don't know if you guys know this. Not the same player.
Greg Cody
No. I mean, the Only thing they all three of them have in common is their.
Jon Weiner
And I understand why we do this.
Billy Gil
But he is Goran Dragic.
Jon Weiner
Over the last couple of days, we have had people saying a number of different opinions about how stupid it is that the Miami Heat wouldn't trade Jovic for Jovic for Jovic. Kevin Durant. And when he got to the league, the Miami Heat's assessment of him is he could be Danilo Gallinari, which is a very nice NBA player and also someone you would trade for Kevin Durant if he becomes Danilo Gallinari. We like to do this with the unknown. This thing that we're presently watching is more unknown than it's ever been because of the number of foreign players in the draft. But I do want to check in with a couple of the highlights from last night. Now, this is before last night. I know a lot of people have been pointing out the viral tweet that the NHL has Wayne Gretzky on its broadcasts and ESPN has Kendrick Perkins. And there's a bit of a difference, obviously, in terms of stature from Wayne Gretzky to Kendrick Perkins. But Kendrick Perkins is there because he says things, and it doesn't matter what they are. He just says things like this about Cooper flag.
Greg Cody
This is how I look at Cooper flag. If LeBron James and Kevin Garnett had a baby, you get Cooper flag. And why I say that is because when you think about. When you think about LeBron. Let me ask a question. Is Wayne Gretzky good or is he just Wayne Gretzky on the broadcast? I don't know.
Jon Weiner
He's not good as he is not good as a broadcaster. He's gotten better over the years, but he is Wayne Gretzky. Pretty boring.
Greg Cody
He's Wayne Gretzky.
Jon Weiner
That's right. But he's doing the same thing that Tom Brady's doing that they're going to pay Michael Jordan to do now.
Greg Cody
Yeah, he was like Magic when Magic did tv. Magic was incredibly boring and obvious with all of his analysis, which is crazy because you think yourself this Magic Johnson, one of the smartest players ever played. And my theory on that, Dan, is if everything was child's play to you, how would you know what's difficult needs to be explained and how would you know what's not?
Jon Weiner
I know two stories involving Magic Johnson thinking the rest of life would come easy for him, and it did not. One of the stories read for me how long he lasted as Lakers coach. Because the famous story of Magic becoming Lakers coach is that one day in A meeting. He got frustrated and I think his career lasted like 11 games or 11 days, something ridiculous like that. Divock. This is how old this story is. Vladi Divak's beeper went off while he was giving a speech and magic took it and threw it against the wall. Yeah, there are people listening to this who don't even know what a beeper is. Correct.
Amin Elhassan
16 games. Magic lasted as long as the Magic Hour.
Jon Weiner
Well, this is what I was gonna say was my second point. He also had a late night television show, and it really is a celebration of famous and do youo Smile? Well, because he's simply charming. They gave him a late night show. ESPN just gave one to Jason Kelsey. As if it doesn't monster talent to host a late night show. How long did that last? How long did the Magic Hour last? Talk about cutting the line based on just fame and charisma. He had 16 games as Lakers head coach. That's a pretty good job. Late night television, those are hard jobs to get. From June 8th to September 4th.
Greg Cody
So the coaching.
Jon Weiner
I'm not one to talk as that was 1998. By the way, as the host of the, you know, Art of Conversation, I can't say very much. It beats you, but mine wasn't a Daily show and mine wasn't earned on fame and charm. It was just that I worked at espn.
Amin Elhassan
And a smile. You don't have those either.
Jon Weiner
Don't have anything that makes me like eyebrows. So I do have eyebrows, but nothing that makes people. Nothing that makes me likable. Nothing. I don't know how to be likable. I don't know how to do it.
Greg Cody
Just got famous, right, guys? Guys.
Amin Elhassan
He's famous.
Jon Weiner
Yeah.
Chris Cote
Ballers.
Jon Weiner
Yeah.
Billy Gil
Eyebrows.
Chris Cote
Dairy Queen is going to be tough to beat boys.
Jon Weiner
Well, find others, though. But like Lanny McDonald's, Tony Romos.
Greg Cody
Oh, there you go.
Jon Weiner
That's really good. They still around? Is Tony Roma still around?
Chris Cote
This list that I'm looking at of.
Amin Elhassan
Chain restaurants still around. There's no.
Jon Weiner
No, there has to be one. There have to be a couple of Tony Romas. Look, Tony Roma's is where I had my first drinks. Oh, yes, the place for ribs. They had life. They had live music at a place for ribs. It will surprise no one that I was going to live music where they had ribs in college. Kfc. J.
Greg Cody
Okay, all right. A little. A little stretch.
Jon Weiner
Fine for me. Whether Tony Roma's, I believe, is there still one in South Florida?
Amin Elhassan
There is none in Florida, Dan. We're looking at here 86 restaurants worldwide with only 10 remaining in the United States. The chain peaked at over 190 locations.
Jon Weiner
Hold on. You mean that internationally, Tony Roma's is big? It's huge. It's bigger than it is in the United States.
Amin Elhassan
76 restaurants around the world.
Jon Weiner
Where? Tell me where.
Amin Elhassan
We're pulling up a map right now.
Jon Weiner
Please tell me.
Amin Elhassan
Sydney.
Greg Cody
That's not Sydney.
Jon Weiner
Tell Melbourne. The Chinese Jokic has a Tony Romas that he was going to tell me. Where else? Tell me where else?
Amin Elhassan
Brisbane.
Jon Weiner
There are Tony Romas anywhere in the world.
Billy Gil
There's one in Bangladesh, Japan. There are actually one two. There are six Tony Romas in Japan.
Greg Cody
Chili's Davis.
Amin Elhassan
There's one in the middle of the ocean right there. Dan. Look at that.
Chris Cote
Duncan Robinson.
Jon Weiner
That was no good.
Chris Cote
That's how you say his name. I mean, it's just the best one yet.
Greg Cody
You could argue Chili's Davis is pretty good.
Billy Gil
There's one in Curacao.
Jon Weiner
I have been told that Colombia has the fanciest Tony Romas you have ever seen. Wow.
Greg Cody
They got the fanciest everything, don't they?
Billy Gil
But make sure you check out the ones in Germany, El Salvador, the Dominican Republic and Chile.
Jon Weiner
Brooks Reed played live music on Thursday nights, and it's how I was introduced to the Long island ice tea, Guam and Guatemala.
Chris Cote
Those ribs can't be good. Roy said threw in there. Tony Roma's good ribs. They can't be good.
Jon Weiner
It's the place for ribs. That was the slogan.
Billy Gil
Indonesia, Malaysia.
Jon Weiner
Oh, so you didn't know it was the slogan. You just thought that Roy was saying. He was just like, why would I say that? Place for ribs.
Chris Cote
Like, that's a fun little nugget. The place for ribs.
Jon Weiner
You didn't realize it was the slogan for Tony Romans. You thought that that was Roy's personal endorsement aside of a defunct restaurant, he was the place for ribs. 10 locations still in the United States, and those got to be hanging on. There cannot be. I'm guessing that if there are 10 remaining in the United States, it's because they're holding on at the end of life and they're like. They're importing whatever it is the boots were at Red Lobster because they've gone bankrupt and they're just trying to keep alive everything that's there.
Dan Le Batard
Food courts at malls, man.
Greg Cody
Fred Baskin Robbins? No. How about Cream? Krispy Kreme? Hunt?
Chris Cote
They're everywhere.
Greg Cody
Oh, that's good.
Billy Gil
I like that.
Greg Cody
Okay, I'm working here.
Chris Cote
Wendy's Yama.
Greg Cody
Oh, Victor. Wendy's Yama. Yeah. Now we're going back to the names that we gave Dan, right?
Jon Weiner
That's right. Fat food names is all we're gonna go to. Can you guys get me some sound from last night? A couple of the different sounds that we want to play from the draft and some sounds again from our live stream that was baseball related somehow during the NBA draft. Just a terrible Dr. Choice by Metal Arc Media. I think it's Jeremy's fault. I'm not sure. It is. Amin said to me, you got to check the schedule before you do things. And so I said I had delegated that one. I wasn't looking at a calendar.
Greg Cody
I should have Popeye's Jones.
Chris Cote
I feel like that's us, though. Like, we zag. You guys are talking NBA. We're talking baseball.
Billy Gil
Yeah, I totally did it on purpose.
Jon Weiner
I'm not complaining. It was fine. It is. It's totally on brand. I was just pointing out to the audience why it was done. It wasn't zigging while others are zagging. It was not looking at a calendar. So tomato, tomato.
Billy Gil
It was looking at a busy calendar and deciding, ah, here's one of three days we could do it, but next time, we'll do it from one of the four locations at Tony Roma's in the United Arab Emirates.
Jon Weiner
Jeremy, this is not a busy time in sports. You picked eight. Like, we're headed toward the hot dog eating contest.
Billy Gil
Might not be a busy time for you.
Jon Weiner
Okay. Jeremy, do you think you're busier than I am? Like, that's a thing that you think?
Billy Gil
No, I'm saying if it's not a.
Jon Weiner
Busy time in sports, sounded like you thought right there that you think you're.
Billy Gil
Busier than I think that last week, I might have been busier for some days.
Chris Cote
It's a biz off.
Jon Weiner
Well, now we got it, though. He denied. He said it. Denied it, and now admitted. Well, you're admitting it now. You denied it a second ago.
Billy Gil
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Dan Le Batard
Know something about me, right? You know when I'm grilling outside and it's summertime? You know how I supplement my summertime?
Billy Gil
Of course I do.
Dan Le Batard
I make it Miller time.
Billy Gil
Of course.
Dan Le Batard
That beautiful white can. Oh, when it's so hot outside, I just, I just put it right to my forehead right there and I just roll it sometimes right on the forehead, cool my body down and then I crack it open. Instant relief. And then that first sip, brother does that first sip.
Billy Gil
That is a top five sequence of events that you can possibly go through.
Dan Le Batard
I'm just serenity now. When I just imagine that first sip of Miller life, just thinking about it.
Billy Gil
It'S making me happy.
Dan Le Batard
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Billy Gil
Don LeBatard it sounds to me like everybody could use a hug, because a hug is always the right size stuff. All I have put in my body today is three cups of coffee and an entire cup of go to the pedal.
Chris Cote
Don't let him fool you. He said in the break that he's jittery.
Amin Elhassan
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.
Jon Weiner
So here we are. So let's just have this out now. Let's just do this now. Jeremy's had a different experience with how it is that people receive him in the world and how it is that they receive him here. He's had two different lives in the world. They like when he comes out and talks like a broadcaster to get going before he gives his point as a transition. What here. That's not liked as much. What's the whiplash been like?
Chris Cote
Limited Fake. Jeremy was strong.
Billy Gil
Yeah, that was.
Greg Cody
That's a.
Jon Weiner
It just takes. It just takes 13 syllables before he starts. And that's just. It's a television contrivance.
Billy Gil
It is a television contrivance.
Jon Weiner
It's not how human beings speak.
Billy Gil
Well, it's how I speak now because I was training my whole life to do this. So when you're trying to really be a broadcaster and tell a story, you need to be able to. To maneuver whether your voice needs to go to a powerful place up here or if you need to slow things down, enunciate properly and put a period at the end of a discussion.
Greg Cody
Orange Julius Randall.
Jon Weiner
I think the objection around here is that you put a lot of commas at the end of the discussion and then just keep going. I believe that that's probably a part of the whiplash, that the issue is semicolon.
Billy Gil
I just like stuff, you know, So I just want to give you all the information that I have about it. And that works for some other people.
Jon Weiner
Like.
Billy Gil
Like the Miami New Times was really excited about me and wrote up this really nice piece. And it was after yesterday's show. I was a little beaten down. And then I went and I sat at the desk out there and I found out.
Jon Weiner
Oh, man. Cool.
Billy Gil
I've been named best sideline reporter in Miami by the Miami New Times for best of 2025.
Chris Cote
Giving those away.
Billy Gil
And I read.
Amin Elhassan
Hold on, Jeremy.
Billy Gil
Yeah. Amongst, like the seven, aren't you?
Amin Elhassan
All of them.
Greg Cody
There you go. Thank you. Thank you. That's. That's how you do it, boys. You just eliminate all the competition.
Billy Gil
Yep. That's how you do it.
Greg Cody
I can nominate as one person.
Billy Gil
Yeah, I was one of the probably six options, but it felt good.
Greg Cody
And the nominees are. For The Florida Panthers 2024 season, Jeremy Tashay. For the Miami Heat 2024 season, Jeremy Tashay. For the Miami Marlins 2024 season, Jeremy Tashay. And what's the fourth for the 24th season of the Miami Dolphins, who knows? And the winner is. Jeremy Tashay.
Jon Weiner
I'm going to read from the Miami New Times. He does have a different experience away from here. They are much kinder. There's more praise people throw. Flower has gone to his head. If you're even remotely paying attention to the landscape of South Florida sports, Jeremy Tash is everywhere. In a single day. You can turn on your TV to see him on the Miami Heat sidelines or your recommended YouTube page as a mainstay member of the Levitzard and Stugats crew. And all over your Twitter timeline, dropping interviews of Miami Marlins players. It's like the best episode of Black Mirror. He's everywhere, always all at once. And that's a good thing. Teshe does it all with charisma, professionalism and a unique South Florida Suns style of energy. He earned his reputation as one of the most versatile voices in South Florida sports media by doing what few can, blending sports knowledge with authenticity and a touch of cheerleader touch that. It takes six people to replace Tashay in the workplace, but no one could ever truly replace what he's brought to the Miami media landscape.
Greg Cody
Was this written by Ethan?
Chris Cote
Should have said the worst episode of that would be the worst episode of Black Mirror, right? The best episode. Have they not watched Black Mirror? The best episode. Come on, Jeremy.
Jon Weiner
That would be a really good.
Chris Cote
Be a boring Black Mirror episode.
Billy Gil
That made me cry when I read it.
Jon Weiner
It did.
Billy Gil
Yeah, it did.
Amin Elhassan
It brought.
Billy Gil
It brought an actual tear to my eye.
Jon Weiner
It's nice. It's. It's touching. But it's also undercut by Amin's contention that it's just cost cuts all over the industry. I will replace you soon, and then that's what will be celebrated seven years from now, because you've taken all the jobs.
Greg Cody
David. Boston Market. Have you guys seen these videos, by the way? Like, the ones where it's like, man on the street.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, Like.
Greg Cody
Like, Dan, I don't know if you remember this, maybe like four or five months ago, I told you, hey, I found the tell. How you can tell that something's AI versus real, and you're like, what is it? I said, the AI videos never change their intonation. So it's like Draymond Green in a press conference. When the AI alters it, it's just like him talking like this. And LeBron James is awesome. I wish he was my dad, but it's like. It's always monotone like that.
Jon Weiner
I wish he was my dad is what you had.
Greg Cody
Draymond said. That's how the AI guys do. They always want to make fun of that stuff, right?
Amin Elhassan
They say things that are wacky, wacky, and people.
Greg Cody
Oh, do you know what Draymond said?
Jon Weiner
I'm like.
Greg Cody
Like, this is not real. It's AI. You can tell. It's so monotone and flat. And now in, like, the last month, it's over. It's over, dude. They. They've got people. The man on the street stuff is so freaking good. Not only, like, the. The language and what they're you saying, but just the intonations. The way they turn away, like, hey, man, y' all hit like, it was crazy.
Amin Elhassan
The way I know that it's AI is that it looks too good, right?
Greg Cody
Like, the picture quality.
Chris Cote
The picture quality is like, for a.
Amin Elhassan
Man on the street 9k. I'm like, nah, there's something up with this.
Greg Cody
That's the giveaway now. But the picture quality is too good. But just in terms of how it is mimicking human behavior, human speech patterns, the stuff that Jeremy was talking about, lifting his voice, lowering his voice, all that stuff, man, we're hurtling towards a time where literally I can't trust anything unless it's right in front of me.
Jon Weiner
Well, everyone's gonna be me, right? I got fooled by the Internet before it was trend. Wendy. Yeah, I got fooled by the Internet back when the Internet wasn't very good at fooling people.
Amin Elhassan
He's got a shark on the turnpike.
Jon Weiner
But now you're all going to be me. Now you're all going to be me. Somebody your kids are going to be making fun of you because you got fooled by the equivalent of the shark on the turnpike.
Amin Elhassan
Wait a second, are you serious?
Chris Cote
How to get there?
Jon Weiner
It's, it's going to be less lonely then. I will tell you that I felt a little lonely last night as everyone was enjoying the three players they could name from the draft and Jeremy and I were here alone with Robert the IT guy as the Cody's were bowling and Greg Cody said he couldn't come in but he didn't tell me why. He just said he had a Wednesday thing. And then I, then I learned of course Greg Cody would choose the bowling league. Chris, this is his priority now in life. Correct. There is nothing that's getting in the way of your father bowling on Wednesday nights. Correct?
Chris Cote
It's, he's the first one in the group chat on Mondays. I'm in Wednesday right away.
Amin Elhassan
I love that guy.
Chris Cote
He's the, like I don't need it Monday, let me know Tuesday maybe Wednesday morning. Monday morning he's like I'm in this week. Who's in? He'll give like a rah rah speech like we got it this week boys.
Amin Elhassan
I love that. Sometimes our basketball group chat of the team that we play on Thursdays, sometimes people trickle in Thursday afternoon like I'm in, I'm in. I need the guy a Tuesday. I'm already lacing him up. I'm running around, I'm ready to go.
Jon Weiner
But late in life it's been interesting to watch. Chris, your father cares about very few things. It's beer and himself. That's the list to see bowling added where it seems a priority in his life and it's the perfect priority.
Chris Cote
Well, bowling has beer.
Jon Weiner
That's right. That's the key that's correct. That it's instead of beer in the garage, it's beer and he can throw things and watch things break and scatter. Like that's what the whole thing is. Last night we did a lot of Looks like with Tim Kirkjen as part of our celebration. One of the best ones we got was Adam Silver and Scott Van Pelt look like a 710 split. And also good there because people were pairing the two is that Adam Silver looks like Scott Van Pelt fifteen seconds after someone has opened the Ark of the Covenant.
Amin Elhassan
I laughed my ass off on that one. That was the 10 seconds I saw. I turned it. I was like, let me see what the boys are doing. Like svp. It looks like SVP touching the Ark of the Covenant. I died. Then I turned it off.
Greg Cody
That's art. Whoever came up with that one, that is art.
Jon Weiner
We had a number of good ones. It suggested. I saw a lot of them. So it suggested that we're going to be able to do that tournament again next year that you guys missed so much. But you speak of AI. I got caught in this recently. You tell me how fake this is right here and see if you can tell me what the controversy was that was created by this fake thing.
Tim Kurkjian
Here's how this NBA analyst just told Michael Jordan to stay silent during his new NBC gig and Eddie Johnson wasn't having it. Now, Dan Le Batar shocked fans by saying he has zero interest in hearing Michael Jordan Jordan speak on NBC's NBA coverage next season. Now, that take didn't sit right with former Phoenix Suns star Eddie Johnson, who fired back with sarcasm, mocking Le Batard's dismissal of the goat as he said Dan knows more about basketball than MJ and does not want his opinions on anything. This is the USA 2025. Scary. What do you make of this?
Chris Cote
Levitard's always going to be tough for AI Levitar.
Billy Gil
That's the part about the USA in 2025 that's scary.
Jon Weiner
I agree with him. There is very little anywhere in America or elsewhere that would be dumber than the idea that I know more about basketball than Michael Jordan. So I would say yes, that is, I worry about America as well, that that is out there and that the AI machines are feeding on it and they are putting out into the world that I want MJ to shut up and dribble when. No, I want MJ to just speak and say things interesting, which he never does. I don't want him to shut up and dribble. I want him to dribble and talk a lot like I don't want him to shut up. I want him to just say things again and again and again. But he won't. And as a broadcaster he'll be Tom Brady and Dan Marino who don't say anything.
Greg Cody
The CEO of the company makes ChatGPT said the worst thing you could do is trust ChatGPT.
Amin Elhassan
Excuse me, what do you mean?
Jon Weiner
I learned the other day something I did not know. I mentioned it to you guys. You don't need school and kids are going to throw away all of their parents money at school by just cheating their way through college by using AI. In fact, I shouldn't say are going to. They're already doing it. They're already devaluing the college experience by inundating the professor, which are a bunch of things that computers wrote.
Greg Cody
This is a quote from Sam Altman quote. People have a high degree of trust in ChatGPT, which is funny because it hallucinates. It hallucinates, ladies and gentlemen.
Amin Elhassan
I also don't like that.
Billy Gil
What does that mean?
Amin Elhassan
Keep a pin in that.
Greg Cody
It means you should not be trusting this thing for information.
Billy Gil
Well, yeah, which is, which is like.
Greg Cody
You'Re saying, oh, people are wasting their money. Send their kids to school. No, kids need to go to school to know when the AI doesn't know what the hell it's talking about. Because what AI is, ladies and gentlemen, is just an aggregation of all the dumb ass opinions that we've already had. It's not coming up with the right answer, it's coming up up with the answers. People think again, the quote is people have a very high degree of trust in Chat GPT, which is interesting because AI hallucinates. It should be the tech that you don't trust that much when the guy.
Amin Elhassan
That created that is the CEO of that and is like the spearhead of the AI movement across the world is telling you it hallucinates.
Greg Cody
I worry, I'll tell you what I'm worried about. Also I read a story where this woman, apparently, I don't know if it's Chat GPT, but some AI tool like that, she was talking to it about her relationship and her problems, whatever. And it was like divorce your husband. Like you're crazy if you don't get divorced. And it struck me not that AI would make that suggestion that there are people out there who are talking to like ChatGPT and Gemini, Google Gemini, asking it what should I do with my boyfriend like, or my girlfriend, like what's happening here?
Billy Gil
There's people who have Left their families for their AI partners, partner that they've created and confided in. There's people who have been convinced to die by suicide because they were confiding in this. This AI machinery. That's then telling. It sounds like you don't really have a choice. There was a guy who's a meth addict who, no joke, was confiding about the issues that he was having with struggling against staying sober. And it told him, you deserve one hit of meth this week. These are all stories have been reported in reputable papers. And it's insane what's happening there. And what it is, is you're right. Kids don't know how to find real information right now because they're relying on chatbots. When we were kids, it was the emergence of Wikipedia that was the big issue because we just needed to make sure that sources were cited on information. So we all knew to go down to the references and be sure you could from there. This is a totally different element.
Jon Weiner
I am disturbed by the information and darkness that Amin is spewing with a giant smile on his face. Like, this is just horrifying, scary stuff that the computers are. With our help, with our assistance, as all of the people who have made these computers say, please be careful. They learn too fast and they're going to destroy humankind. All of them say, this Amin has the right attitude where he gives you the dark information with a giant smile on his face that is frozen in terror because the robots are coming.
Greg Cody
My kid was fascinated that I knew how to do sines and cosines of angles off the top of my head.
Jon Weiner
Like, without a computer or calculator, kids are Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Greg Cody
Yeah, that's true.
Amin Elhassan
You went to Georgia Tech.
Jon Weiner
You should be able to know how to do that.
Greg Cody
No, everyone who does trigonometry should be able to know to do that. They're teaching them right now. Oh, just put it in the calculator.
Jon Weiner
Kids can't write cursive now, right? Cursive has died.
Billy Gil
That one died a long time.
Jon Weiner
A long time ago.
Billy Gil
Yeah. There are kids graduating high school now who never wrote in cursive.
Greg Cody
In third grade, I wrote, I was like the tail end of having to be taught cursive, and I was terrible at it. And my assertion all along, which I turned out to be right, why the hell are we trying to make things harder to read?
Chris Cote
Could never figure out that Z, like.
Greg Cody
We'Re trying to communicate via the written word. Why are we trying to make it look harder to decipher Is that an S or is that a.
Jon Weiner
When did cursive die? There was not a memo. When did that die?
Chris Cote
K looks like an R. What other.
Jon Weiner
Things ended up dying again? During the NBA draft last night. Night in which people knew the names of three or four players. We were doing something different. We were, I'm going to say, watching the baseball games, but we. We didn't actually watch any of the baseball games. They were all on in here and I didn't see almost any of them. But we did have a good time. One of the highlights was Tim Kirk and as he's known to do after dark when he's got a couple of pops in him just going crazy.
Chris Cote
Look at me, I married a hooker. I got no front teeth.
Greg Cody
Okay, that might have been more fun than a draft. Yeah.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah. Again, snippets were great.
Jon Weiner
What do you mean snippets? The whole snippets.
Billy Gil
Hold on a minute. That feels undercutting.
Amin Elhassan
No, because I saw in snippets and snippets.
Jon Weiner
They were great.
Greg Cody
He's co signing.
Amin Elhassan
Exactly right.
Jon Weiner
Cosign. Okay, well just play that again please, so that people can understand that this is Tim Kirchen just going biographical and just telling us about his life.
Chris Cote
Look at me. I married a hooker. I got no front teeth.
Jon Weiner
I didn't know that he had veneers before that. That's when I'm learning that Tim Kirchen has fake teeth. Mike Rya hadn't reported that. He happened to know.
Billy Gil
I'm just learning about the divorce.
Greg Cody
Is that is Jeff. How does Jeff feel?
Jon Weiner
It wasn't a divorce. It was his first wife.
Billy Gil
Oh, so, okay, so a change of professions.
Jon Weiner
This also happened with Tim Kirkchin last night where he was very proud unbelievably of his very limited movie knowledge because he correctly got a movie question right with Adnan Vir. He was feeling himself and then this happened. This director is known for movies such as Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and Goodfellow Fellas.
Chris Cote
Well, it's the greatest director of all time. It's Ad Nan's all time favorite.
Jon Weiner
You forget his name?
Chris Cote
I forgot his name.
Jon Weiner
Stick the landing. He was so confident.
Chris Cote
This is so bad. Adnan has told me a thousand times this is the greatest director ever. I've been there. Just lose it.
Greg Cody
Adnan was the coach running on the sidelines and celebrating the touchdown run. And then Kirkjin just fumbles in beyond.
Jon Weiner
Let the other thing that ended up happening there is that I learned later that the Kirkchins are cheaters. Cause the only Way he got the name is Cause his son, his producer on his own podcast. Is this a great game or what? I urge you to support it. It is very good. It is lovely. It is innocent. It's from a different time. These two people sound so much like each other. Love each other so much. And unlike my father on highly questionable. Enjoy working to see the pins. We need to see the pins, Chris.
Billy Gil
Nah, we'll hear the pins.
Jon Weiner
All right.
Billy Gil
Oh, look at that form.
Jon Weiner
That's great coding. Yes. No, I have no idea what he did. We don't know what he did. We couldn't strike, I guess. Okay, he bow. The strike. Is he wearing both shoes? All right, thank you for joining us, Greg. We appreciate it.
Greg Cody
Thank you. Hey, how about that baseball game, huh?
Jon Weiner
I mean, are you still claiming that you gave the broadcast more last night than Greg Cody did? Because he bowled a strike while we were watching him. Was he wearing bowling shoes or boat shoes? I couldn't tell.
Greg Cody
Bowling shoes rentals or he owns his own.
Chris Cote
Well, he. He wears the boat shoes to the bowling alley, puts on the bowling shoes.
Billy Gil
And then wears no socks to either. Yeah, no socks in the bowling shoes.
Amin Elhassan
Gotta get good grip on the bowling shoes.
Chris Cote
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think he wears socks.
Jon Weiner
No.
Amin Elhassan
Why?
Greg Cody
No?
Jon Weiner
There are other disgusting human beings like Cody who have put their. Nostradamus. What is his name? Nosferatu. Nostradamus is what I made him close. Nosferatu feet in the bowling shoes. You can't do that without sneaker, without socks.
Greg Cody
You're worried about other people, People who wore. I'm worried for other people. He put his foot. Is his gnarled ass foot in that shoe, and then they hand it back. You think a little bit of spray.
Jon Weiner
Is gonna take care of that?
Chris Cote
Guys, this is a league.
Billy Gil
Bowling.
Chris Cote
You think he's. He's not. He has the shoes.
Greg Cody
Oh, he owns his own.
Chris Cote
Those are his shoes. But it's still gross.
Jon Weiner
It's still gross.
Greg Cody
Oh.
Jon Weiner
Oh, it's just like jaundice.
Chris Cote
Get his foot out of there, guys.
Jon Weiner
Put it on the poll, please. At Lebatard show, would you ever wear any bowling shoes without soc.
Greg Cody
Is this here. Is this any one of these countertops? Because I don't want to touch anything. Now.
Chris Cote
Was that the Clevelander?
Jon Weiner
I believe.
Dan Le Batard
Jeremy, you know something about me, right? You know when I'm grilling outside and it's summertime? You know how I supplement my summertime?
Billy Gil
Of course I do.
Dan Le Batard
I make it Miller time.
Billy Gil
Of course.
Dan Le Batard
That beautiful white can. Oh, when it's so hot outside. I just. I just put it right to my forehead right there. And I just roll it sometimes right on the forehead, cool my body down. And then I crack it open. Instant relief. And then that first sip, brother does that first sip.
Billy Gil
That is a top five sequence of events that you can possibly go through.
Dan Le Batard
I'm just serenity now. When I just imagine that first sip of Miller Light.
Billy Gil
Just thinking about it, it's making me happy.
Dan Le Batard
Dude, the sun is out. It's nice. You have your friends showing up. You got your family there. You just had your first sip of Miller Light. And you know what? You're happy. You're blissful. You're fulfilled. I've been stocking my cooler with Miller Lite. Four years in progress. Good reason. It's brewed for taste only. 96 calories and 3.2 grams of carbs. This year, Miller Lite turns 50. That is five decades of cookouts, laughs, and ice cold moments that never miss. It's the original light beer and it's still my Go to Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Local Hour: The Place For Ribs
Release Date: June 26, 2025
Duration: Approximately 43 minutes
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
In the "Local Hour: The Place For Ribs" episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosts Dan Le Batard and Jon Weiner navigate through a lively discussion centered on the recent NBA draft, the Miami Pelicans' strategic moves, the evolving landscape of AI in media, and humorous anecdotes from the show's crew. The episode seamlessly blends sports analysis with pop culture commentary, all while maintaining the show's signature South Florida flair.
The core of the episode revolves around the NBA draft, with Dan and Jon expressing frustration over scheduling mishaps that caused them to miss key moments of the event.
Scheduling Confusion:
Jon Weiner [01:07] laments, "You guys seem a little hungover today... We chose the date of the NBA draft to do it." This sets the stage for a critical analysis of the Pelicans' draft decisions.
Pelicans' Uncertainty:
Jon Weiner [03:38] questions the Pelicans' strategy: "The Pelicans have not been a relevant franchise their entire time in the league... You don't know what that franchise is doing. Don't know if anyone cares."
Trade Decisions:
Greg Cody [04:58] delves into the Pelicans' bold move of trading their unprotected first-round pick to move up and select Derrick Queen:
“They gave up an unprotected first-round pick next year, which is a very, very bold statement... It was confusing trying to figure out what they were trying to do on draft day.”
Concerns Over Draft Picks:
Jon continues, highlighting issues with the Pelicans' picks:
Jon Weiner [06:03] – “They gave up probably the most coveted asset of the next year's draft for 10 spots from 23 to 13 to pick a guy who you have already.”
Player Comparisons and Risks:
Greg Cody [06:13] compares Derrick Queen to Dairy Queen in a humorous take:
“The Pelicans are awful. They don't have an identity... it sounds like it's a comp akin to Zion Williamson but flawed.”
Transitioning from sports, the conversation shifts to the growing influence and concerns surrounding AI:
AI's Increasing Sophistication:
Greg Cody [27:58] and Jon Weiner [28:21] discuss how AI-generated content is becoming indistinguishable from real human interactions. Jon muses, “We’re hurtling towards a time where literally I can't trust anything unless it's right in front of me.”
Impact on Authenticity:
Billy Gil [35:30] highlights alarming scenarios where AI influences personal decisions:
“There's people who have left their families for their AI partners... convinced to die by suicide because they were confiding in this AI machinery.”
Educational Implications:
Jon Weiner [34:02] expresses concern over AI's role in education:
“They're already devaluing the college experience by inundating the professor with a bunch of things that computers wrote.”
Trust in AI Systems:
Greg Cody [34:02] cites a Sam Altman quote criticizing ChatGPT’s reliability:
“People have a high degree of trust in ChatGPT, which is funny because it hallucinates.” This sparks a broader discussion on the dangers of over-reliance on AI for accurate information.
The hosts intersperse their analytical discussions with lighthearted stories and jokes about their crew and personal experiences:
Greg Cody's Bowling Antics:
Jon Weiner [41:11] teases Greg about his bowling habits:
“Was he wearing bowling shoes or boat shoes? I couldn't tell.”
Tim Kirk's Quirks:
Jon Weiner [39:24] shares humorous insights about co-host Tim Kirk:
“Look at me, I married a hooker. I got no front teeth,” eliciting laughs and playful banter among the crew.
Jeremy Tashay's Versatility:
The episode highlights Jeremy Tashay's widespread presence in South Florida sports media, culminating in a mock award segment where Greg Cody [26:04] announces Jeremy as the "Best Sideline Reporter."
Jon Weiner [27:21] adds a humorous touch:
“It's like the best episode of Black Mirror.”
Amid the humor and sports chatter, the hosts provide thoughtful commentary on societal trends:
Changing Educational Priorities:
The decline of cursive writing is discussed, reflecting broader concerns about educational standards:
Jon Weiner [37:03] asks, “When did cursive die? There was not a memo. When did that die?”
The Future of Media Personalities:
The conversation touches on the ephemeral nature of fame and the role of media personalities in shaping public opinion, especially in sports broadcasting.
The episode concludes with the hosts reflecting on the chaotic yet entertaining blend of sports, media, and personal anecdotes that define their show. They emphasize the importance of authenticity in an age increasingly dominated by AI-generated content, while also celebrating the unique camaraderie that makes The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz a staple in South Florida's media landscape.
Jon Weiner [01:07]:
"You guys seem a little hungover today... We chose the date of the NBA draft to do it."
Greg Cody [04:58]:
"They gave up an unprotected first-round pick next year, which is a very, very bold statement..."
Jon Weiner [06:03]:
"They gave up probably the most coveted asset of the next year's draft for 10 spots from 23 to 13..."
Greg Cody [34:02]:
"People have a high degree of trust in ChatGPT, which is funny because it hallucinates."
Billy Gil [35:30]:
"There's people who have left their families for their AI partners... convinced to die by suicide because they were confiding in this AI machinery."
Jon Weiner [37:03]:
"When did cursive die? There was not a memo. When did that die?"
Jon Weiner [27:21]:
"It's like the best episode of Black Mirror."
Pelicans' Draft Strategy Under Scrutiny: The Miami Pelicans' recent draft decisions reflect a lack of clear identity and strategic direction, raising questions about the franchise's future competitiveness.
AI's Double-Edged Sword: While AI enhances media capabilities, its potential to spread misinformation and influence personal decisions poses significant societal risks.
Authenticity in Broadcasting: Amid technological advancements, maintaining genuine human interaction and authenticity remains crucial in media and sports broadcasting.
Camaraderie and Humor: The show's blend of serious analysis with lighthearted banter underscores the importance of camaraderie in navigating the complexities of sports media.
Societal Reflections: Discussions on educational trends and media influence highlight broader concerns about the direction in which society is heading, especially in relation to technology and information consumption.
This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers a comprehensive blend of sports analysis, critical commentary, and entertaining anecdotes, making it a valuable listen for both regular followers and newcomers seeking insightful yet engaging discussions on contemporary sports and cultural issues.