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Chris Cody
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Stugatz
There are so many ways in this company that things are upside down. For example, Andrew Hawkins just told me that he did something at the dollar store. And while he was telling me this, Chris Cody, child of nepotism, was getting his elbows lotioned by the makeup woman. And I'm like, it doesn't work correctly. But that's not the greatest example I have of it I've heard all my life. And maybe Andrew, you've lived this. I've lived this recently. More money, more problems to preach. But I've never heard of more awards, more problems. Our company is winning all sorts of awards. Like we crushed these podcast awards and everyone at the company's fighting over them.
Amin Elhassan
Wow. What? What? What Podcast awards?
Stugatz
Well, well, first of all, the biggest winner. I mean, these are the most prestigious of the podcast awards, is the answer to your question. The very most prestigious of the awards.
Billy Gill
They call them the potties.
Stugatz
I don't know the name, but they're just known as the most prestigious awards. And Stugat beat everybody in the football category and no one's happy for him. He beat everybody. He beat Shannon Sharp, he beat Schefter, he beat every. Every. Every football name. He beat the Tomahawk Podcast.
Billy Gill
Mina, Mina, Lenny, Diana, Rossini, everybody. How is this possible?
Stugatz
Shannon Sharp, the Kelsey's. He beat everybody.
Billy Gill
Demand a recount.
Amin Elhassan
Real quick question. So you say the podcast awards, but there's not a Name. What is the name? I'm looking at all the.
David Sampson
Let's go with the potties.
Billy Gill
The potties.
Amin Elhassan
Okay.
Stugatz
The name is best American football podcast.
Amin Elhassan
Oh, okay.
Stugatz
That's the best. I don't know if there's a football podcast that's not American that's better than this one. I doubt it.
Amin Elhassan
The American football pot. Best American football podcast.
Billy Gill
It's the sports podcast awards, but I believe they're sports podcast awards, kind of as a diminutive. The parties.
David Sampson
Like you would think when somebody like in our company wins an award like this, you'd see emails of congrats, Congrats. No, it's like they stuff the ballot. This is bullshit. Like, I can't believe the emails and the slack channels that I've been reading the last.
Billy Gill
Because it's two guts, right? Let's be clear. This isn't like middle or people eating each other, right? It's we don't trust dugouts. We think there's.
Stugatz
Don't do we. Don't do we. I think this is deserving. I trust creative.
Billy Gill
Wait, I say you. There you go.
Stugatz
No, I don't trust Stu guys. I don't stu guys. I don't trust Stugat.
Billy Gill
You go.
Stugatz
I do trust that he's got the best American football podcast.
Amin Elhassan
Okay. I don't trust that. I don't trust this. The parties, Sports podcast awards, the spas. The parties is what we're calling it. Spies again.
Stugatz
You guys want to argue about the name instead of celebrating the accomplishment?
David Sampson
I like spas.
Stugatz
It's real hater. I put it on the poll. Juju, do you like spas?
Billy Gill
Let me just ask you. Would you rather imagine or do you imagine stugats to be at a spa or on the party?
David Sampson
You know what? Let's actually not put that poll out there with the whole Justin Tucker stuff going on smarter.
Amin Elhassan
Look, I love Stu Gotts. Don't know if he has the best American football podcast.
Stugatz
He does.
Amin Elhassan
I'm a big football guy. I don't know that about the way.
Stugatz
This is measured is he just got announced as having the best American football podcast. So therefore he has the best American football podcast.
Amin Elhassan
But from the spas, not from.
Stugatz
You guys are making fun of this. It's from the most prestigious of the pod giving organizations, the award winning organizations, the party.
Amin Elhassan
Who is on the committee. Can we get a little research? I need insight.
Stugatz
All right, you guys got questions? I'd like to celebrate first. With balloons, with an acceptance speech, with a call. With a call that will show the inner office Turmoil. In fact, just start.
David Sampson
This is gross.
Stugatz
Yeah. So just start the show. Don't play the call. Just start the show so I can get to the car.
Billy Gill
Are we getting balloons from.
Amin Elhassan
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.
Stugatz
Andrew, can you help me? Because Samson wants to come on and talk about the awards and the voting. Pablo wants to come on to talk about the awards and the voting. Billion Stugats don't need to come on. Aren't even here today. Aren't even here to accept their award. They're used to this. They've won it before. Do I allow Pablo and Sampson to soil what should be a happy day around here by just getting in the way of things?
Amin Elhassan
Yes, you should. It should be soiled on. I think I'm excited. I'm excited for the awards. Congratulations, Stu. Guys, can I start by saying that although I'm not starting, I kind of went in a different direction already, but I want to say congratulations. I do have questions about what the hell we're talking about.
Stugatz
This is not how award ceremonies work, though. Where it's like, congratulations. But I have an assortment of questions. That's not.
Dan Le Batard
That's exactly how the Golden Globes work.
Billy Gill
Or if you're Kanye West. That's how it works.
Stugatz
It's the antithesis of award giving and receiving to just ask questions in the.
Amin Elhassan
I just want to know how happy I should be.
Stugatz
Very.
Amin Elhassan
Why?
Stugatz
Because he won the best American Podcast.
Amin Elhassan
You guys, I've been on this show so many times. Not a single time have I come on here and been introduced as a Cambria County Sports hall of Famer.
Billy Gill
That's true.
Amin Elhassan
You've never associated hall of Fame with my name.
Stugatz
That's correct.
Amin Elhassan
You know why? Because it matters. Who the hell is calling you a Hall of Famer?
Stugatz
No, it doesn't.
Amin Elhassan
So I'm all for awards. Okay. If that's the case, I don't ever want to show up here without being described as a Hall of Famer.
Billy Gill
I am more interested in the American and Best American Football Podcast. Is that Best American Football Podcast or is that Best American Football Podcast? Meaning. Is there a Greek football podcast that's way better than Tugatz's? But it's. It's completely like.
Amin Elhassan
It's Mina's.
Billy Gill
Is that. Is that.
Stugatz
You have to make that. You have to make that correction because the rest of the world doesn't care about our American football.
Billy Gill
But then you're making an assumption that the American here is. Is signifying that it's American football, the sport as opposed to American Football podcast.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, like, it could be a category with.
Billy Gill
There might be a Canadian football podcast.
Amin Elhassan
They have. They probably had Shay. Shay and Black American.
Stugatz
Best African American.
Amin Elhassan
African American, Yeah. Okay, now we're getting down to somewhere. Now this is starting to come together.
Stugatz
No, this is. This, this is not Meadowlark celebrating Stugatz's achievement. And furthermore, I will tell you, we have a great deal of in house tension. Pablo Al also won an award. David Sampson finished third. He's mad. He's. Matt. Which one? Third Pablo.
Amin Elhassan
Okay, Because Stugas deserved third.
Stugatz
David Sampson finished third, and he's mad about it. But. And we had to do some reporting. Some journalism has fallen apart. But at Meadowlark, we're still doing the occasional journalism. We've got sort of a tape that we shouldn't have. We've got. Mike, I need your help here. I don't know if Christopher. Christopher Poe, our lawyer, has looked into this or not, because I don't think we're allowed to play this. And we have protect the producer because I don't think the producer knows that we were recording him. And so we're going to have to distort his voice on stuff we found out that Pablo has done in order to win awards.
Dan Le Batard
I don't think that covers you legally, but go ahead.
Stugatz
Okay. I think that preface covers me legally. See if you can distort that real quick. We have found. We've got a comfortable. We've got a whistleblower in the. In the business who has sent us audio that he or she recorded of a producer of Pablo's.
Pablo Torre
Holy. I can't listen to that sound again. Oh, my God.
Amin Elhassan
Oh, my God.
Pablo Torre
Yeah. I mean, I want to go, but I can't. Pablo. No, I know. It's not just me. He's got four producers. Yeah, four. Four producers and then two editors just for Emmy submissions. And then the other, you know, 25 producers working on some story about, you know, funerals, God knows what, spreading ashes. Mark Zuckerberg, who knows what the hell he wants to talk about 75 producers on the show. Can we, like, you know, in soccer, they, like, loan out players to other teams. Can we loan a producer to David Sampson? Poor guy has two people. Maybe. I got an idea. Pablo Torre finds out whether he could be a parent. Go home. Stop trying to, like, win awards, do this.
Amin Elhassan
It's just.
Pablo Torre
It's ridiculous. I've had enough. I'm telling you, there's an entire spreadsheet, shot by shot, for best host Sizzle reel. And I'M like, my God, we're gonna spend 45 minutes on just this one thing when what we could be doing is maybe long enough. Producer David Sampson. David Sampson has two producers. That's ridiculous. No, I gotta get back. I gotta get back. It's Pablo time.
Stugatz
Samson has one producer. He doesn't have two producers. And Pablo does indeed have four producers and two editors just for Emmy submissions. That is factual. I've seen the budgets.
Amin Elhassan
I thought when that audio started playing, it was Shannon Sharp's beginning. I'm like, whoa.
Stugatz
I think we distorted it too much. I think. I think we protected the identity of the producer a little too much.
Dan Le Batard
I seized on the cadence.
Billy Gill
I can't see.
Amin Elhassan
Refuse to believe Stu Gotts has a better football podcast than Mina did.
Stugatz
You have a lot of situations, Andrew, where people in your locker room weren't happy for the successes of others.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, no, that's, that's. That's.
Dan Le Batard
You played in Cleveland. There wasn't much success for you guys.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, we, the other teams, we were. We were jealous of the other teams success. No, this is a, this is a. This is around the conversation of Cam Newton saying he wouldn't trade his MVP for a Super Bowl. And everyone was like, oh, my gosh, I can't believe you would say that. And I'm like, I kind of can. I mean, I think that that makes sense. So Stu Goss getting his personal achievement over Meadowlark winning the best podcast company. You know what? We should celebrate it, cuz personal achievement is okay. And I don't like the war that's going on against personal achievement.
Stugatz
Well, let's talk about what it is that Cam said. Amin, because we had this conversation the other day, and Amin said the reasons. The reasons for motivations among athletes. The top one is winning. I'm sorry? The top one is money. And then the second one he was saying is winning. And I was saying that his third one, which is being the reason for winning, is closer to money than people understand. And so when Cam is saying, I'd rather be MVP and have an enduring legacy of that one year, I was the best in the sport then. My team was the best in the sport. I understand both how he comes by that appraisal and why fans would crush him as the selfish, the selfish black athlete for having that appraisal.
Billy Gill
The original version of this question is, would you rather be Charles Barkley or Robert Horry? That was the genesis of this whole question in sports debate. Would you rather be Charles Barkley, MVP of the league, top 75 all time hall of famer, or would you rather be Robert Horry with seven rings? And Robert Horry shut the book on that one by saying, I'd rather be Charles Bronson than Robert Hori. What are you. What are you kidding? Like to legitimately say, almost every night I stepped on the floor, I was the best player in the gym, in the world, in the building. That is a feeling that very few get to feel versus, yes, Robert Horry won championships. Yes, he was a contributor. Not just like kind of riding the pine. It's like it wasn't because of me. Not like Barkley, you know, it's the.
Amin Elhassan
Greatest American spin is what this is. And I'm not against team sports. I'm not against team success. Like, that is the goal. The goal is to do both. To be the best in the world and also let the fact that you are so good at what you do, create a champion in your entire team. But nobody in America is going to work their whole life at something, a passion, and be like, I'd rather do it for my company. That's the thing that people miss is that athletes really. I mean, yes, we all want to win the championship because again, it's another signal that we're the best at something. But when you distill it down, it's you working for your company. And you're not gonna change. Trade your company's success for your own legacy. You know why? You hardly ever hear about MVP trophies being sold on ebay.
Stugatz
Yo, that's such a good point. That is.
Amin Elhassan
Do you know why? Think about that. Why? You've never heard, oh, this MVP is hard on money and they're selling their MVP trophy.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, Cam has been a little transparent recently about his financial issues, but I guess my best guess would be because they MVPs typically make a lot more money.
Amin Elhassan
Bingo. Right? Because it's a lot harder for an MVP to run out of money than it is somebody who was a part of a 70 person roster with the ring. Again, this is not an indictment on championships for organizations and teams. That's what this is all about. But for the athletes as well. Like, yeah, it makes. I don't like the fact that we just like a. It's a bad thing to feel like you're the best in the world. Like, Josh Allen is another good example. If he does win an mvp, it's like, oh, you shouldn't be happy about that. What the hell are you talking about? You dream about this stuff since you're four years old. Yes, yes, you should Be trying to win a Super Bowl, Josh. But if you win an mvp, feel good about it.
Stugatz
I want to bring up a couple of things here. I thought about some of that for about 10 years when Ricky Williams Heisman was in my father's garage and I would go in there and he eventually sold that Heisman. But your point overall is well taken. Taken on the best player in the world. Once you get that trophy, you don't often see that. You don't often see that sold. But I wanted to ask you if you were interested particularly in the differences between how it is Lamar Jackson was criticized after a Mark Andrews drop versus the soft cushion of I feel so bad for him that Josh Allen fell on when Kincaid dropped the ball. Like, was that something that you noticed how the differences were obvious?
Amin Elhassan
Yes, I'm sure I noticed it. I don't know if I really like dialed in. It's what the expect what I expected. The Mark Andrews catch was probably 10x easier than the Dalton Kincaid catch like that. And I don't even like the people. The fact that people act like that was an easy catch for Dalton Kincaid, it wasn't. It was an incredible play by Josh to give him a play and it was a harder degree of difficulty than the Lamar throw. And it's like people will nitpick about anything. But regardless, I maybe I don't feel away about it because with Lamar, I know how hard Lamar is on himself. Like Lamar has been so consistent in his approach to the game and I've spent time around him and it is not fake at all. He genuinely only gives a damn about a Super Bowl. Like and that's what makes him an anomaly. He has never talked about being an mvp, being the best in the league. I'm sure that stuff is in the back of his mind, but even in his personal conversations that I've been around and a witness to, all he cares about is winning a Super Bowl. And that's because I think he grew up here in South Florida and that's also all the youth football players here care about. Like when I play with kids from South Florida in the NFL, they don't talk about college. They talk about when they were playing against Pompano or Tamarack or and it's like a point of pride. I never understood it till I got here. So for Lamar, truly the super bowl does represent something else and he's going to be that hard critical in himself too.
Stugatz
Pablo and David Sampson are here. Just before we get to that, not only did Robert Horry say what Amin Said he said Charles Barkley also came on with us and said, I'd rather have my career than Robert Horry's. But Robert Horry saying it after winning that many championships, it did end the debate on this show.
Amin Elhassan
I take Charles career. When you come into this league, you.
Andrew Hawkins
Always want to win the championship, but you want.
Amin Elhassan
You also want to be considered one of the best of all time. He's always going to be considered one of the best of all times. Even though he never won a championship. He got there, but didn't win one. He's an all star. He's a Hall of Famer. He's a great sportscaster. So I would have to take Charles Curry. Even though I won championships, I still take Charles Curry because you can't take anything away from him because he didn't win championships.
Billy Gill
You know, the concept of the ouroboros, a snake that eats its own tail, that was me quoting Robert Horry, which I did not realize happened on this show.
Stugatz
That's correct. So here is David Sampson. He was shaking his head throughout that sound. He is here to tell us that second place is the first loser. Third place is the second loser. I was telling him how proud I was that he has America's third best baseball podcast. He did not want to hear about how he should be proud today of having America's third best baseball podcast. David, welcome.
Mike Ryan
Thank you very much. Thank you, Dan. That's very nice of you to say that you are proud. We did have the number one best baseball podcast last year and the number one best business podcast last year. All nothing personal. And then somehow we got metal art this year and Pablo took over the sports business category and was recognized as having the best sports business podcast. Except that's the one I'm on called the Sporting Class. And Nothing Personal now is the third best baseball podcast. I'm here to tell you that that makes me a loser. There's nothing to be proud of. And I'm thrilled to death with everything I've won, but yesterday I was not a winner.
Andrew Hawkins
Pablo, is this your way of saying thanks for winning two first place awards at the Sports Podcast Awards? Is this why I'm being called in? Hi. Hi. I don't know why anyone's mad at me, frankly. So what's going on?
Stugatz
You've got a lot of producers and they spend their days making Emmy nominations, filling out forms.
Andrew Hawkins
So this is actually a helpful moment, I guess, to clarify the award I won. First of all, Samson's, I guess, mad that the JPEG on the award For Sporty Class was my show logo. Sorry that the JPEG is not David Sampson's face. I guess I will apologize for that. I'm not going to apologize for the producers on my show. The award that I won was best sports documentary podcast. I don't know if you guys know what a documentary is, but it's not. You call someone after they call, you know, to expect congratulations after dropping off their daughter at school to yell at them. It's an award that you get for having high degree difficulty episodes he produce every week. So cool, cool, cool, cool party. I just walked in.
Stugatz
David, please tell me what your objection is to Metal Arc. Go ahead.
Mike Ryan
I just understand what Pablo is trying to do when I'm aware of the resources that are given to Pablo to help him win. The fact is that he's got groups of people who do nothing but make sure that he's nominated and wins awards. And that's fine, Pablo. And you can look at the structure of what you do and you can have your Pablo Torre finds out. But how many times do you ask that I am helpful to do the sporting class, everyone, and that wins. But then it's your thumbnail that does it. And then you're the one who's tagged. So you didn't win just one gold medal. You won two gold medals.
Andrew Hawkins
I did. I did. A big part of this, I think, is that David Sampson, who is very good on the Sporting Class, an episode that I host, not coincidentally, is he has no idea how the Internet works. So David was mad at me yesterday for like, tagging John Skipper, but the wrong John Skipper on Instagram. And he sent me a screenshot of John's Twitter account to point out that I clearly tagged the wrong one, not knowing that Twitter and Instagram, or X and Instagram are two separate platforms. So when David says you have all these producers, I think he literally means sometimes you have someone else who understands what the Internet is. And in this case, that.
Mike Ryan
No, no, Pablo, don't tell me what I mean. Don't tell me what I mean, Pablo. What I mean is actually, you've got myriad people working because Metal Art gives you all these people to do all this stuff. And it's me and Coca. That's it. Oh, by the way, we do it every day, so weeks to do one show. Oh, but it's very in depth because you find out rap sp.
Andrew Hawkins
So I'm walking the streets of New York and I can maybe find some, like, actual metaphorical comparison points. Like right here is a very fancy restaurant. It's like best in class, like incredible elevated French food. And over there somewhere is like a hot dog stand. And I'm. I feel like the hot dog stand is yelling at the French restaurant for having too many.
Mike Ryan
That's great. That's great, Pablo.
Billy Gill
Wait a second.
Mike Ryan
You're calling what we do a hot dog stand?
Andrew Hawkins
I love hot dogs. It's just not. Best documentary at the sports Podcast Podcast Awards.
Mike Ryan
That's fine, Pablo. Dan, we're good here. We're good here, Dan, because you now know. At least now we know what we're dealing with. Is that Pablo? And is he so highfalutin? He is so condescending toward nothing personal and toward what we do. And it just manifested itself with a description and a comparison that should make you as nauseous as that hot dog. Look at all these wins I've had, Pablo. You don't see me out there with all medals and rings every single day.
Billy Gill
Those are credentials, by the way. You got some credentials.
Andrew Hawkins
This is sad.
Billy Gill
No, by the way.
Amin Elhassan
Sports analytics credential. Where are. Where are we?
Billy Gill
Where are we in life where David Sampson has become the everyman who's railing against the elite.
Stugatz
What are you wearing? How many rings do you have there?
Dan Le Batard
You won one World Series, yet you're wearing three of the same World Series Championship ring.
Amin Elhassan
Please give those players their rings.
Andrew Hawkins
Which corpse did you raid to get those rings?
Amin Elhassan
He's the one buying the rings off.
Dan Le Batard
Of ebay, trying to alter history. You only won one title. It's three of the same kind of ring.
Mike Ryan
Hold on, Mikey. This is the All Star Game ring, which is really cool.
Dan Le Batard
Wait, you got a. You got a ring for hosting an All Star Game?
Mike Ryan
All Stars get a ring every year. If you're an All Star, you get a ring. And this is a ring that was for being a 2017 All Star. And I did get one because we hosted it. This is the Marlins World Series ring, but I have several.
Andrew Hawkins
Can I get a cup of coffee? And do you have like the third place baseball podcast? It's just. Just a black coffee.
Amin Elhassan
I'm sorry.
Stugatz
You're actually a hard working person, Small.
Andrew Hawkins
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you mind if I just. Can you say hello to my friends here?
Stugatz
Okay. There it is. Hello, sir.
Andrew Hawkins
This is the second place baseball.
Stugatz
Come.
Amin Elhassan
He's great.
Stugatz
David, what are your problems with metal arc? Are they just related to giving Pablo more support than you?
Mike Ryan
No, I think that. That we have a weird.
Andrew Hawkins
Thank you, sir.
Mike Ryan
We have Pablo.
Andrew Hawkins
I know. You know, it's a. It's a bigger, engaging thank you so much. The general riff raff, he just congratulated me. So I just wanted to tell him, you know, thank you.
Stugatz
Yeah, we caught all that. Okay, you were saying, Sam, I want.
Mike Ryan
To make sure the problem Pablo trying to be popular by befriending his coffee man in the cart on the street who has no idea who he is.
Andrew Hawkins
Guys, I'm walking around here like, like Bell and Beauty of the Beast. People are popping out of their windows to say hello. A guy with a baguette just rolled by. Incredible.
Stugatz
Let's let Pablo go. And let's make no mention of the fact that he stole the sporting class from me. I was doing that with Samson and Skipper beforehand. Congr to Pablo. And how do you do this push?
Billy Gill
Maybe just broke it.
David Sampson
Work it out, Dan.
Stugatz
I just broke it. I was congratulating our confetti poppers don't really work particularly well.
Andrew Hawkins
Feels like a metaphor.
Stugatz
Yes, there it is.
Andrew Hawkins
Feels like another metaphor.
Stugatz
Congratulations to Pablo for his big win in the whatever categories they were pull.
Dan Le Batard
Or a push tape on it.
Amin Elhassan
And congrats to.
Andrew Hawkins
To.
Amin Elhassan
To sample too.
Stugatz
David, thank you for being on with us and congratulations. You should be happy about third place. Third place is good.
Mike Ryan
Third place is for losers.
Stugatz
It's incorrect.
Billy Gill
Careful.
Andrew Hawkins
Crazy.
Stugatz
All right, goodbye. See you later.
Andrew Hawkins
Love you guys.
Amin Elhassan
Go.
Andrew Hawkins
Meadowlark.
Stugatz
Yes.
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Amin Elhassan
Don Lebatard.
Mike Ryan
We love you. We've got you. We've all got each other. Let's go right now. STS 1, 2, 3. Brett. 1, 2, 3.
Amin Elhassan
This is the Dan Levatar show with the ST.
Stugatz
We got the letters that we got here in balloons. Came incomplete. We didn't get all of the letters. That's why everything around here is misspelled. We got a bad batch of balloons.
Billy Gill
Dan. I just want to point to Chris Cody, who's trying to get the popper to work, and he's using some methods that. Oh, there it is. Yeah, he was using some methods. I was just.
Amin Elhassan
Careful.
Billy Gill
We're all on camera.
Amin Elhassan
If we were Mason Cameron, we would have been like, that's crazy.
Billy Gill
That's crazy. Hey, yo, Chris. What are you doing?
Stugatz
I actually appreciate that in that instance when I was feeling really vulnerable, trying to pull push, not knowing how a confetti cannon works, thinking it was my fault. And then I looked around the room, and all of you were struggling with the confetti cannons.
Amin Elhassan
I don't even know if those are confetti cannons. I think they're just containers of confetti now that I.
Billy Gill
Mine just opened up and spilled out slowly.
Amin Elhassan
Yes.
David Sampson
That's this company. What I learned has just a tone issue.
Amin Elhassan
Okay.
David Sampson
They're not nice to each other. Tone mean. I'm finding the entire company with the Venmo fine bucket. It's brought to you by venmo. Everybody owes $5 at the entire company for this tone with these awards. Oh, I don't like it. We should be celebrating each other. $5 venmo tone fine for everyone.
Dan Le Batard
I'm owed $30 for winning. Who that is? Everyone.
David Sampson
Everyone.
Stugatz
Okay, here's the thing, though. This. No one's respecting this bucket. And you, as I'm. I'm proud of you for being a leader, trying to make people, trying to enforce the rules. But you just made an edict, and no one reached for their phones. I will again be the only one paying this fine I'm owed.
Dan Le Batard
Look, take it out of my $30 that is owed to me for guessing.
Stugatz
This guy's so fed up with this.
Billy Gill
Dan, I take offense to you saying no one respects the Venmo fine bucket. I highly respect it. We got a QR code. We scan it, we enter it in. It takes two seconds to put the money in. I've been contributing. I thought everybody else was. This is news to me.
David Sampson
It's just Greg Cody. That's not. Everyone else is paying.
Stugatz
Amin, do you think that Hawkins is paying? Because I don't believe that Hawkins has paid a fine yet.
Amin Elhassan
I don't think I've ever been fined.
Billy Gill
I don't think he's been fined.
Stugatz
Well, you just got fined $5. He just. He just. You were the one asking. When we're celebrating awards, you're like, I have questions. You did. Real dismissively. Hey, real happy for you. Congratulations. But, however, let me bring my. An assortment of questions to you now.
Amin Elhassan
There's a war on clarity. That's the thing, right? You can't even have real context of what the hell you're celebrating.
Stugatz
These are the most prestigious awards. It's all you need to know.
Amin Elhassan
Okay, well, I don't say congratulations unless I'm impressed, and I need to have context to be impressed. I do not think he has a better football podcast than Mina Kimes. So let's all continue to do the mental gymnastics to figure out how this happened. That's all I'm asking.
Billy Gill
I got Hawkins getting up on that stage as Stugatz is accepting the award to say. Hold on, hold on. I just want to say Mina Kime has one of the greatest podcasts of all time, shrugging yes, wandering off the stage with a bottle.
Amin Elhassan
Shout out to Lenny.
Stugatz
Again, Mina Kimes. Not one of the greatest football podcasts of all time.
Amin Elhassan
That's Nightcap.
Stugatz
Yes.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, you could be.
Billy Gill
Is Nightcap. Hold on, is that Shannon Sharpe?
Dan Le Batard
And Chad, you could be bummed that Anatomy of a Fall didn't win Best Picture, but that doesn't make it Best Picture.
Stugatz
Fair enough. I stand corrected. Or I sit corrected. It is one of the best, but it's not the best. The best is Stugatz. The best is Billy. Billy couldn't receive the award. Are you guys aware what Billy's doing? Because I love that anarchist. Billy is doing this quietly because he's the only one in the company who would do this quietly. He is going. Has gone to Cartersville, Georgia to celebrate the incorrect anniversary date of Billy Gilday. It's supposed to be the five year anniversary, but it's not actually. But he made the plans and they're doing it. So Billy Gil Day is in Cartersville, Georgia today. He's flying with his family for the weekend to celebrate Billy Gill Day. No one else at this company would do it quietly. He can't pick up his award for producing the best American football podcast because.
Amin Elhassan
He'S celebrating his own day. What is the population in this town?
Stugatz
I want more information on Cartersville, please. I'd like to know more. As he continues to question the accolades of others.
Amin Elhassan
I'd like to see if I should be impressed.
Stugatz
Thank you. He got a day. Look, you just made it so that your hall of Fame was not impressive. And I would say all the hall of Fames get into a Hall of Fame. You've done something.
Amin Elhassan
You've never said that to me.
Stugatz
I'm telling you right now.
Amin Elhassan
Did you to give me that?
Stugatz
Well, because I didn't know you were in Any hall of Fames? You played for the Browns, I should.
David Sampson
Assume I'm seeing the population in Cartersville is 24,937.
Stugatz
Okay, you want to diminish that?
Amin Elhassan
I. I'm just saying. Just get the. Look at me, Louie button. Ready? All right.
Stugatz
What do you mean, look at me, Louie, buddy. Okay, cuz.
Dan Le Batard
You're up, you're down.
Billy Gill
Yeah, it is. Say press it. He said, get it warmed up because.
Amin Elhassan
Nice and hot. Now there's an Andrew Hawkins Day. That's all I'm saying.
Billy Gill
There it is. Now you can hit it.
Amin Elhassan
Where? Hit it, please. Look at me.
Stugatz
Johnstown, Pennsylvania.
Amin Elhassan
Located in Cambria County.
Stugatz
Is it bigger than Cartersville? Is that bigger than Cartersville?
Amin Elhassan
It's not. I think we're at a roughly a 17,000 person.
Stugatz
So admittedly, a less impressive day than Billy Gilbert. And you didn't do it quietly. You felt the need to tell us? Right there.
Amin Elhassan
I'm just letting you know that's where my bar is.
Stugatz
Okay, so he's done better than your bar, but he did it quietly. I admire the way that he did that. There's no way any of you would have done that, that quietly. He's going with his whole family for the weekend.
David Sampson
I have sources up there. There's no way you could guess who it was, he says. My source tells me that there's a town hall ceremony planned this afternoon. And then afterwards, words bowling with Billy Hawk.
Dan Le Batard
I'm sorry. I asked ChatGPT when is Andrew Hawkins Day? And they said that there is no official Andrew Hawkins Day. I was like, please clarify. Was he honored with his own day? This is the answer. As of now, there is no official day recognized by any governmental or official body as Andrew Hawkins Day. The designation of October 20th as Andrew Hawkins Day is a personal initiative by Andrew Hawkins himself, celebrated informally on social media.
Stugatz
Holy shit. Oh, my God.
Amin Elhassan
I have a declaration from Mayor Trigonia for October 20, 2011, for Andrew Hawkins Day. My family celebrates that every year, apparently.
Dan Le Batard
According to advanced computers. It is a personal initiative celebrated by you yourself informally on social media.
Stugatz
This is shocking to have happen on live television. This is so embarrassing.
Amin Elhassan
An official government seal on it. Not.
Dan Le Batard
Not. The Internet's not backing you up, pal.
Billy Gill
This is the part of the movie where we realize the character that they wanted us to believe was the fraud stugats. It's not him. Actually. The call is coming from inside the building.
Amin Elhassan
Wow.
Stugatz
Yeah, you've got to provide proof before.
Amin Elhassan
The end of guy is the fraud. Look, I should have seen this.
Dan Le Batard
I'm telling you where the computer is.
Amin Elhassan
I should have seen it coming a mile away.
Stugatz
Are you saying the black guy is. Am I racially biased? Is that what you're saying?
Dan Le Batard
Yes, I pressed it.
Amin Elhassan
I think everybody knows that.
Dan Le Batard
At first it was like, no, but then it had the very cutting remark of a personal initiative by Andrew.
Amin Elhassan
What the hell is that? AI? Why couldn't they. First off, if it was a personal achievement, why would they make the decision not to even acknowledge it? And then when you, like, are you sure? It's like, all right, so there's this thing he makes up on social media. But I'm not even going to act like it's a real.
Stugatz
I can't. I can't make what I'm about to say up because I can't believe that this is happening on live television. Mike. Mike who? What was the name of the coach before Nick Saban, who lost his job over a resume error on his way to Alabama. And there were stories, not confirmed, that during. During moments that were private, he would yell Roll Tide. In intimate situations. I was never able to prove that. But I'm forgetting the name of the coach. It wasn't O'Leary, was it?
Amin Elhassan
No.
Dan Le Batard
George O'Leary did lie on his resume, but there was another coach in Alabama, Mike Price.
Stugatz
Yes. So he lied on his resume and, and, and his career fell apart. And we just saw something that is going to demand proof from Andrew Hawkins or his career is going to be in trouble. That he's been talking about Andrew Hawkins Day to everyone who will listen, and computers are accusing him of making the whole thing.
Dan Le Batard
Well, this is how we make AI stronger. Because AI has been wrong before and I've had to correct it.
Amin Elhassan
AI is racist, man. And I'm not talking to Allen Ivers.
David Sampson
No, DEI is racist.
Amin Elhassan
This is ridiculous. Now I'm scrambling through my files to try to.
Stugatz
You're going to have to prove this in the next couple of hours because this. This has the potential to be explosive and career damage because it's already happened. It's going to get aggregated now. It's going to be a whole thing where Andrew Hawkins is a liar and a promising and wonderful media career.
Dan Le Batard
Look, I found an article and I'm.
Amin Elhassan
Going to look at this finally. Oh, we've got documentation.
Dan Le Batard
Well, where's the seal?
Billy Gill
I don't see.
Amin Elhassan
It's right there, bottom left. Left.
Billy Gill
That's not a seal.
Amin Elhassan
Can we zoom in on the seal?
Dan Le Batard
That is not a real seal.
Billy Gill
That is just. That's just a printout, man.
Amin Elhassan
No, we Got it. We got to zoom in on the embossed seal.
David Sampson
There it is.
Amin Elhassan
From Mayor Thomas Trigonia in Johnstown. On behalf of our city council and all of our citizens extend to Andrew this expression of our esteem and our very best wishes and thanks to him and his family. Andrew Hawkins Day Mayor.
Stugatz
Are we willing to take that as proof? Does Andrew Hawkins get to do a Victor.
Amin Elhassan
Does he get to do proclamation with a. This doesn't feel a little racially biased Judges.
Stugatz
All right. That is not a real seal. This is a real seal. This is clearly a real seal right here. That is not a real seal.
Amin Elhassan
The only racially sealed that you're going to accept.
Stugatz
Wow.
Dan Le Batard
Big news. Chat GPT is capitulated.
Stugatz
All right.
Dan Le Batard
That sent at the article.
Stugatz
Congratulations. Apologizing.
Billy Gill
It's all.
Amin Elhassan
The apology is never as loud as the accusations.
Dan Le Batard
I surprised that he did indeed have his own official day and it's not celebrated by himself.
Stugatz
No. You're going to get to take a victory lap right now. We're going to go into the other room. We're going to give Andrew Hawkins the stage. We're going to give him the platform to say whatever he wants. He has been discriminated against by computers and by me. He was indeed questioned. But now we have an official proclamation from a mayor of some sort. And I again will ask the group. Are any of you surprised that Billy Gill is doing this this weekend? He doesn't want to leave his home to interact with people like I don't. He advocated for house arrest the other day as a better way of living and he has gotten up taken his family quietly to celebrate himself on a day. And I think it's because he needs to be away from us where things are not celebrated together.
Billy Gill
Wait. Oh it's our fault.
Stugatz
I think he wants to be in a place where people will celebrate who he is and his achievements. Meadowlark is not that place.
Dan Le Batard
For the record there was no hesitation from ChatGPT when when I asked about Billy Gilday. It knew it right away.
Stugatz
Can you give me more information on both Billy Gilday and Cartersville? I'd like to know about this city that he was in. I wanted to send people with him but he wanted to do it more quietly. He wanted to do it more humb and so I wanted the content of it. He did not want to share the content. I'm sure it'll be his private brand management.
Billy Gill
Was it he wanted it to do it quietly and humbly or he just didn't want any of us around some Information for you.
David Sampson
The mayor of Cartersville used to be a co host of the Lauer After Hours podcast.
Stugatz
I don't believe that that is right. What you're doing there, you're undermining Billy Gill's day. As the one who.
David Sampson
You said facts. You want facts about this?
Stugatz
I said I wanted facts about Cartersville, not facts that undermine this particular.
David Sampson
Undermining it.
Amin Elhassan
It's just a fact.
Dan Le Batard
It's a historic city with a R. Cultural natural heritage. It's got the Savoy Automobile museum there. The first outdoor painted Coca Cola wall advertisement was in Cartersville, Georgia.
Billy Gill
There's gotta be something about slavery in there plantations or something.
Dan Le Batard
It's the home of Sam P. Jones.
David Sampson
We actually have good news regarding racism. The Attorney General under Ulysses S. Grant, Amos Ackerman, was from Cartersville and spearheaded the federal prosecution of members of the Ku Klux Klan. So from Cartersville, getting rid of KKK members, that's really exciting.
Dan Le Batard
And Atlanta, you get your drinking water from Cartersville, so there's that.
Stugatz
So congratulations to Billy Gill. This is Billy Gil Day. This is officially throughout the land, Billy Gil Day. He's got America's best football podcast. Took out Shannon Sharpe. Took out everybody. Took out everybody. Everybody. Everybody who's talking about football. No one's doing it better than Scots and Billy and whatever Gronkowski is on their show. And now we go out to Andrew Hawkins. And here it is. Here is his victory lap. Congr. Congratulations, Andrew. I'm sorry I called you a. A bit of a phony.
Amin Elhassan
It's okay. I. I forgive you. Shout out to peloton as I'm taking my victory lap through God's country, also known as Johnstown, Pennsylvania, population of roughly 19,000. As I sit here over top as Johnstown, Pennsylvania's favorite son, the home of also Jack Ham, who does not have his own day. I actually don't know, but I'm sure if you'd check chat dbt Mike, they would say he has seven days because he is not black. And they won't discredit it without the proclamation and official seal shout out to Billy Gill. Okay. For your day. Because now that I see that the way this company approaches people who have, through their esteemed accomplishments, had their own holiday in their honor. I now understand that I was mistaken, taken for trying to find out the population of your city. It is an incredible honor. Congrats to you and your family. And congrats on your big spa. Your spa award, your potty award. Congrats on using the potty, Billy. I'm very proud of you. Shout out to peloton. And most importantly. And I'll end with this. Shout out to me. Right? Everybody look at me. Louie, baby.
Stugatz
All right, but you're not really running. You were fake running.
Amin Elhassan
No, I'm running.
Stugatz
You're not running.
Amin Elhassan
I'm a very smooth runner.
Billy Gill
I won't lie, my hawk. I'm watching you and I'm waiting to hear the voice. Cha Cha, real smooth. Turn it out.
Amin Elhassan
This is how I jog it.
Dan Le Batard
Turn again.
Amin Elhassan
This is how I run.
Dan Le Batard
Turn it left.
David Sampson
Victory lap is brought to you by peloton. Find your push. Find your power. With peloton.
Stugatz
You were bored dancing.
Dan Le Batard
There is no official chat cam.
Stugatz
Why does no one understand that the whole payoff on this bit is your win while you're talking? Like, why does no one understand that.
Amin Elhassan
I've been running for four minutes. What took you so long to come to me?
Dan Le Batard
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Summary of "Local Hour: The Poddies (feat. David Samson and Pablo Torre)"
Podcast Information:
The episode kicks off with Stugotz expressing excitement over their podcast winning a prestigious award for "Best American Football Podcast." This announcement quickly ignites a debate among the hosts and guests regarding the legitimacy and naming of the award.
Discussion Points:
Award Naming: Confusion over what the awards are officially called, with informal names like "the potties" and "spas" being tossed around.
Credibility Issues: David Samson questions the validity, suggesting ballot stuffing and expressing frustration over internal company competition for awards.
The conversation shifts to a broader discussion on the value of individual accolades versus team accomplishments, referencing notable athletes.
Key Insights:
Cam Newton’s MVP vs. Super Bowl Wins: Debate on whether personal MVP honors hold more value than team success such as winning Super Bowls.
Tensions escalate as David Samson and Pablo Torre express dissatisfaction with the award outcomes, feeling that their podcasts are being overshadowed despite their own successes.
Notable Exchanges:
A significant portion of the episode revolves around the declaration of "Andrew Hawkins Day," leading to a heated debate about its authenticity and the role of AI in verifying such honors.
Key Points:
Proof of Recognition: The hosts scrutinize the legitimacy of the proclamation, debating whether it’s an official or personal initiative.
AI’s Role: Discussion on ChatGPT's role in verifying the legitimacy of such proclamations.
The episode culminates in a flurry of accusations and reconciliations, highlighting the competitive nature of podcasting and personal achievements within the industry.
Notable Quotes:
The hosts wrap up the heated discussions by acknowledging the complexities of recognition in the podcasting world, blending humor with genuine insights into the challenges of earning and validating awards.
Closing Insights:
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
Conclusion: This episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz" delves deep into the competitive landscape of podcasting awards, highlighting the tensions between personal accolades and team achievements. Through spirited debates and humorous exchanges, the hosts and guests explore the authenticity of recognition, the role of AI in verifying achievements, and the broader implications of individual success within a collaborative environment.