Local Hour: The Show's Cause for Show-Cause

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Local Hour: The Show's Cause for Show-Cause
Date: August 18, 2025
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Mike Ryan, Billy, Zaz, Jeremy
Recording Location: The Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Episode Overview

This Local Hour episode takes a characteristically irreverent look at college football penalties, the confusion of sports television rights, the persistent streaming wars, and what it means to support consistently disappointing (or occasionally glorious) sports franchises. The crew focuses heavily on NCAA “show cause” penalties (particularly around Jim Harbaugh and Michigan), bemoans the dizzying complexity of modern sports streaming, riffs on the NFL and NBA's upcoming seasons, and gives the always-lively Miami Dolphins a local beatdown.

The tone throughout is lighthearted, sarcastic, and loaded with anecdotes, banter, and inside jokes among the hosts.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NCAA "Show Cause" Penalties: What Does It Mean?

• Stugotz: Kicks off by calling the show cause penalty “the dumbest penalty in sports” ([01:05]) and admits to not really understanding what it means.
• Billy wonders aloud what “show cause” actually means and why it's worded so oddly.
• Dan Le Batard clarifies:

  “If you want to hire a specific coach that has the show cause penalty attached to them, there's another added layer of bureaucracy when it comes to hiring that coach. You have to go petition the NCAA and show a reason as to why you should be allowed to hire this coach.” ([02:15])

• The crew mocks the implications, noting the penalty has little effect on high-profile coaches like Jim Harbaugh, now comfortably in the NFL.
  • Stugotz: "Jim Harbaugh is like counting his money in L.A. Like, all right, cool. Why would I ever come back?" ([01:48])
• They liken show cause to weak school punishments for star athletes.

2. The Futility and Absurdity of NCAA Enforcement

• Billy notes the NCAA has little power or effectiveness, especially now that NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) deals and big money dominate.

  “The NCAA...has no control over anything anymore...there was cheating and they were stealing signs … and [the penalty] was cheating and stealing signs ...But you certainly would have expected them to do [a] postseason ban.” ([05:29])

• They mock penalties like taking away championships as being meaningless:
  • Stugotz: “Memphis, you didn't go to the Final Four. Derrick Rose didn't score a single point. Like, bro, we went to the games, we saw it, it happened. Everyone enjoyed it.” ([06:16])

3. The Coming College Football Super League

• The hosts wonder how soon the NCAA will be obsolete and replaced by a “super league” controlled by the big schools:
  • Stugotz: “How long before we get a college football super league?” ([08:03])
  • Dan Le Batard: Suggests it’s “inevitable,” pointing out American fans lack the organizing fervor of European soccer fans who resisted the Super League.
  • Quote:

    “American consumers have been so beaten down by what capitalism is like...They're just so used to not having a voice here that it's never going to replicate that.” ([09:20])

4. The Streaming Wars and Sports TV Confusion

• Dan Le Batard and the crew express total frustration about trying to understand where and how to watch major sports.
• Zaz attempts to lay out the NBA broadcast schedule:
  • "Sundays you can watch on ABC, NBC or Peacock... Monday, Peacock, Tuesday NBC and Peacock... Wednesday ESPN, Thursday Prime..." ([12:02])
  • The point: “Not confusing whatsoever,” notes Zaz sarcastically ([12:22]).
• The team lists all the services they already pay for—Peacock, Prime, ESPN, NBC, Hulu, etc.—and recognizes most serious fans are already subscribing to everything, but it still adds up.
• Dan Le Batard on WWE confusion:

  “If I want to watch ple...Xfinity and YouTube TV are not allowed to get the ple. The WWE Live events. Okay, but that deal has not been worked out yet...I’m twisting in the wind because I can’t watch what I want to watch.” ([20:11])

• They joke about needing imaging for “the streaming segment”—with mock suggestions like a river sound, then immediately devolving into urinal humor ([23:05]).

5. NFL/NBA Game Start Times and Broadcast Logistics

• Discussion of late NBA west coast game start times, confusion from overlapping TV schedules, and how the leagues’ priorities means football dominates TV real estate, even pushing NBA coverage aside.
  • “The NBA a couple years ago ...we’re not going to get these crazy late starts anymore. ... NBC is the only one that has 11pm games tells me they paid to say, hey look, this is important for us.” ([16:14])

6. Miami Dolphins Preseason and Local Sports Takes

• Jokes about Dolphins preseason success:
  • "Dolphins have no losses this preseason." – Billy ([23:40])
• Jeremy and others express skepticism about the reliability of preseason practice reports.
• Lengthy riff on the Dolphins’ backup quarterback situation, with Billy leading the charge against Zach Wilson:
  • “We know what Zach Wilson is. He sucks, man. Get off my team.” ([26:37])
• Discussion about whether Miami deliberately avoids strong backup quarterbacks to ensure no ‘controversy’ for Tua:

  “They don’t want a quarterback controversy.” – Jeremy ([39:55])

  • “They're trying to find the best of not someone that's too good. They don't. They. You think that.” – Billy ([40:22])
• Tyreek Hill’s learning-curve admission (“I'm finally starting to understand the offense”) yields more snark.
  • “Now that he understands it, we're going to be amazing. I think that's what he's trying to project.” – Stugotz ([29:52])
• The crew wonders whether veterans like Tannehill and Winston would have been a better pickup, but circle back to the apparent priority of Tua’s ego over actual roster strength.
• Additional Dolphins problems: worry about De'Von Achane’s injury uncertainly (“days to weeks”—whatever that means).

7. Life as a Giants, Dolphins (or Yankees) Fan: Glory, Misery

• Nostalgic takes from Stugotz and the group about being a Giants fan (“once a decade we’re gonna win a Super Bowl, I can live with that”) vs. being a Dolphins fan (“decades of pain, and never even one flash of glory”).
  • “My team has been shitty every single year for decades now. Wouldn’t it have been nice...mix in a couple of Super Bowl wins?” – Billy ([34:46])
  • “I have the perfect. I'm a Yankees fan. ...Emptiness now. Like, wow, that was a long time ago. Versus the Giants. I have, like, once a decade, I get to pipe up and speak, talk my shit and like, aha. And then I go back into hiding and I don't have to worry about anything.” – Stugotz ([34:55])
• The NFC East as the division of “parity” but also tradition, in contrast to the perpetual futility of AFC East teams not named the Patriots or Bills ([35:13]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "There's nothing dumber in sports than an NCAA show cause penalty." – Stugotz ([01:05])
• "If you want to hire a specific coach that has the show cause penalty attached to them... you have to go petition the NCAA and show a reason as to why you should be allowed to hire this coach." – Dan Le Batard ([02:15])
• "Bro, we went to the games, we saw it, it happened. Everyone, everyone enjoyed it." – Stugotz, ridiculing the concept of vacated wins ([06:16])
• "American consumers have been so beaten down by what capitalism is like... They're just so used to not having a voice here that it's never going to replicate that. Which is a shame, because Europe, during the Super League, showed exactly the power of your consumer." – Dan Le Batard ([09:20])
• "Not confusing whatsoever." – Zaz, summarizing the NBA's new TV schedule sarcasm ([12:22])
• “That’s how I got socks. I already have Prime. I have it. I got Peacock. I already have it, man.” – Stugotz, on sports fan subscription fatigue ([14:18])
• "You know what Zach Wilson is. He sucks, man. Get off my team." – Billy ([26:37])
• "I want the second best quarterback that I can possibly find... They could have signed Jameis Winston if they wanted to....and they didn't do it." – Jeremy ([41:01])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:05 | NCAA show cause penalty explained and mocked (Harbaugh, Michigan) | | 05:29 | NCAA's waning power, sham of vacated wins and lack of real enforcement | | 08:03 | Discussion: Is a College Football Super League inevitable? | | 12:02 | Zaz recites the new NBA night-by-night streaming/broadcast schedule | | 14:18 | Hosts vent about streaming services and accidental multiple subscriptions | | 23:05 | Mocking need for a "streaming war" segment imaging (cue river/urinal jokes) | | 23:40 | Dolphins preseason recap and local sports snark | | 26:37 | Dolphins' Zach Wilson skepticism; backup QB dilemma | | 34:18 | Giants vs. Dolphins fan experience, division parity, sports fandom | | 39:55 | Why the Dolphins avoid strong backup QBs; fears of quarterback controversy |

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Recurring Tone & Closing Thoughts

The episode retains a playful, irreverent, and self-referential mood throughout, poking fun at the failings of sports institutions (NCAA, streaming conglomerates, NFL/NBA scheduling) and the maddening experience of being dedicated, often frustrated, sports fans. The Miami focus remains strong—always bringing the Dolphins back to the center, but filtering national stories through a local lens.

Fans of the show will appreciate the blend of sports analysis, inside jokes, and group dynamic—while even casual listeners will relate to the confusion and comedy of modern sports consumption.

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Transcript

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[Stugats]

There's nothing dumber in sports than an NCAA show cause penalty. I don't even.

[Billy]

What does show cause mean?

[Stugats]

I don't know what the term, like, I know what the term means. I don't know why it's worded the way it is.

[Billy]

I don't know what the term means.

[Stugats]

It just means like basically. So he's got a 10 year show cause penalty. We're talking about Jim Harbaugh. This is the Michigan. Punishments have come down from the NCAA and basically for 10 years. Like these penalties will follow him should he ever come back to college football.

[Billy]

Right. But like Sharon Moore got a, I think a four year show cause. Yeah, he's still a coach in Michigan.

[Stugats]

Oh, it doesn't mean he's fired. It just means he's got penalties.

[Billy]

What are the penalties?

[Stugats]

We'll figure that out. Right?

[Zaz]

Show and cause.

[Stugats]

Yeah, show cause. No, but it's just like it's, hey man, don't ever come back over here again. And Jim Harbaugh is like counting his money in L. A. Like, all right, cool. Like what? Why would I ever come back?

[Billy]

This is the reason I left. Yeah.

[Stugats]

Like I just want to be able to pay my players and do deflate, I mean, spygate stuff without having to worry about, ooh, the college people are mad.

[Billy]

But why is it called show cause? Why is it called I'm glad you.

[Dan LeBatard]

Asked because I never gave a thought either. It was just always something associated with a coach that you're not supposed to touch with a ten foot pole. But apparently after doing Some research. If you want to hire a specific coach that has the show cause penalty attached to them, there's another added layer of bureaucracy when it comes to hiring that coach. You have to go petition the NCAA and show a reason as to why you should be allowed to hire this coach.

[Stugats]

Ah, you have to show a cause.

[Mike Ryan]

That's right.

[Stugats]

So again, the dumbest penalty in sports.

[Billy]

And again, why is Shero Moore still the coach in Michigan if there's a show cause penalty against him?

[Stugats]

Right now, they showed the cause, and the cause is he's already our coach. Yeah. What do you want us to do?

[Dan LeBatard]

This was all negotiated.

[Stugats]

I mean, just. But it's like, why? It's. You know what it's like. It's sometimes in schools, I don't know if they do this anymore. Like, if the star player got into some problems, got some trouble, and it's like, oh, they're going to suspend him for a game. It's like we're announcing we're going to suspend him for a half. Oh, no. Think of the children. Why does college do this? How is that a penalty?

[Dan LeBatard]

It's always strange. Miami had a safety named Amari Carter that would always pick up a penalty in the second half for a personal foul, for targeting, and he would always be suspended for, like, the first half of the next game.

[Stugats]

Nice.

[Dan LeBatard]

And then he would do it again.

[Stugats]

That's a great way to get out of playing first halves, man.

[Zaz]

I mean, you have a incredible Peter Warwick memory for some reason or another. Didn't Peter Warwick get suspended for a half for shoplifting? Or was that the full game? Am I remembering that correctly?

[Stugats]

It was more than that. Like, that was something else he got suspended for. But, like, when the shoplifting, which, by the way, it wasn't shoplifting, wasn't shoplifting. It was a coordinated, orchestrated strike against Dillard's in Tallahassee. What it was was they knew, like, the cashier or something, and so they would, like, grab stuff inside job and then. Yeah, exactly. And then when they rung them up, I'll never forget this. The total was always 2140. And everyone's like, why is it 2140? I said, well, because she was charging him 20 bucks. And then the tax is 7%. So it comes out to 2140.

[Guest]

The bill was $412. And you nailed it. They paid 2140.

[Zaz]

I'm telling you, he's got Dillard's. He's got an insane Peter Ward memory.

[Stugats]

Zaz, I've said this a million times before. Look, I've seen, I've watched a lot of great college football players. You know, Reggie Bush and, and Vince Young and all those guys were amazing. There's no one I've ever seen that was better than Peter Ward.

[Billy]

I know he, he was, he was expected to be so good. And he had such an average NFL career.

[Stugats]

I think it was, I think he had injuries that basically like pulled back on what he could have been.

[Billy]

I don't think he ever had a thousand yard season.

[Stugats]

No, he didn't. He didn't. But, but in college, Sheesh. Like, I, I, I can't. I wish I could explain to younger listeners, man. Dog. The inevitability of, and he's a wide receiver. Like, think about that, right?

[Billy]

He was awesome.

[Stugats]

That a wide receiver could be so good. You could throw it anywhere. You could throw it to him anywhere and you were going to get a big, big gain out of it. But Michigan, Michigan. Zaz, this is not a, this is not a punishment. Right.

[Billy]

I, I guess the, the thing that I took away from it most is it seems like they're done. The ncaa, who is just has no control over anything anymore and they really let everybody know for the last and final time that they don't have control over anything when they came up with this suspension, which, I mean, there was cheating and they were stealing signs and look, stealing signs happen during games. That's no problem as to what it is. But they were going above and beyond throughout the week, throughout the months, and they were cheating and stealing signs and they're on sidelines when they're not allowed to be on sidelines and what have you. Like, this would be the occasion. I'm not even talking about taking away their championship. I hate when they do that, you know, but you certainly would have expected them to do. Postseason ban.

[Stugats]

There you go. So, but that's another one. Taking away the championship. That's not a real.

[Billy]

Come on. Like, it happened.

[Stugats]

Memphis, you didn't go to the Final Four. Derrick Rose didn't score a single point. Like, bro, we went to the games, we saw it, it happened. Everyone, everyone enjoyed it.

[Billy]

We celebrated that night.

[Stugats]

You can't take that away.

[Billy]

Yeah, it's, I hate when they do that.

[Stugats]

Okay, Michigan, Chris Weber and Dylan, you guys didn't accomplish anything.

[Billy]

So is he absolved from calling the timeout against unc? I mean, they're taking that whole run away, right? I guess we can never bring that up again. But the thing that stood out to me most was so apparently they're never going to do postseason bans anymore. I feel like that's what they just did because part of the reason was they don't want to, it's weird. They don't want to punish kids who are on the team right now who had nothing to do with what happened then. Except they used to do that in. And you were never allowed to then transfer back then. Now you're allowed to transfer. So, like, it's backwards. Back then was when they shouldn't have punished kids who weren't part of the team because they were not allowed to say, all right, then, I'm out of here. Now they should actually punish these teams because kids can enter the portal and just be like, all right, I'm dipping, I'm out. So it's, it's so backwards the way they're doing it now.

[Dan LeBatard]

The NCAA and the outsourcing of the NCAA's powers has already begun with Deloitte and, and the Nil Clearinghouse and the Rev share. All that started in August. And I don't know if the Nil Clearinghouse has approved a deal, a single one. I think that they're just trying to kick this can down the road before Congress actually has to do this, because they know the second that they cap what a kid can make with their very subjective, fair market nil deal, they know it'll be challenged in court and a moratorium would be installed and we'd go right back to the way that things were. I'm pretty sure they haven't actually approved a deal in the couple of weeks that they've been in charge.

[Stugats]

If I ask you guys right now, how long before we get a college football super league?

[Billy]

Well, I, I, I, I mean, the Big Ten is already trying to do this kind of stuff, but how long.

[Stugats]

Before it actually happens? We're like ncaa. We just don't care about you. Hey, Alabama. Hey, Michigan. Hey. Like all the big powers, we're all just gonna create our own super League. Kind of like what they try to do in Europe a few years ago.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think only the consumers in this country have far less power. They don't want to use their voice in a similar fashion, and their rights usually get trampled.

[Stugats]

And by the way, I don't know if the consumers would even care. Like in England, they care that. What do you mean? That Arsenal won't be playing Wolverhampton Sherb? That matters to them. It matters to the Arsenal fans.

[Dan LeBatard]

It matters if you increase the price.

[Mike Ryan]

Of a Sodi Pop.

[Stugats]

Those things matter. But I'm saying in this country, if we said hey, well, Alabama never gets to play Vanderbilt again. Other than people who go to Vanderbilt or support Vanderbilt, nobody cares. Who cares? I just wanna see Alabama, Ohio State, every week. Right. But over there, they care. The fans of the big clubs care. What do you mean? I don't get to play Montpellier anymore? That really means something to them, for sure.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, hundreds of years. And you also have hundreds of years of tradition. You also have screwy situations in which the supporters own parts of certain clubs or the grounds of certain clubs, and clubs can't do things without the permission. Here in America, American consumers have been so beaten down by what capitalism is like. Okay, what's the fee now? All right, cool. We're adding $47 to a Ticketmaster fee. They. They're just so used to not having a voice here that it's never going to replicate that. Which is a shame, because Europe, during the Super League showed exactly the power of your consumer.

[Billy]

I wish we had that here.

[Dan LeBatard]

You simply cannot get away with this. This is not. You have to stop. Imagine if they tried to do. If football fans were the base for streamers over in Europe. What we have over here, which is just 17 different streamers announced. Streamers that don't exist. It wouldn't be allowed.

[Stugats]

I love. I feel like this last couple of weeks, consumers found out two things. How many platforms I need to watch my NFL games, how many platforms I need to watch my NBA games. And people lost their shit for the first time, like, what I need this and that and this and that. And I'm like, what did y' all think was happening all this time when they're talking about 60 gajillion dollars in these TV deals? I don't know.

[Billy]

I can't get wrapped up in all of it.

[Stugats]

I know.

[Billy]

Mike is so angry these last couple weeks.

[Stugats]

It's his fault.

[Billy]

Yeah, I guess. So, like, I can't tell me. Tell me where what I need to watch the games. And, like, I'm gonna make an informed decision if that's what I want to do.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, well, I hear you, and what you said there is the issue. Tell me what I need. Yeah, they're not really clearly telling me what I need.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Billy]

Mike feels like he's in the dark.

[Dan LeBatard]

When they're announcing bundle packs with Fox one and espn, things that don't exist the way that they announced. I thought Fox one and ESPN were supposed to be bundled with Max, and that wasn't. That was announced. That was a thing. There was a pricing tier, and then it was ruled to be illegal. And so then that's not happening. So then there's a standalone ESPN and WWE is on there. But hey, this is a new rebranding of the standalone espn. And by the way, a couple days later, there's going to be a bundle with Fox. What does that look like? We won't tell you just yet.

[Guest]

So that's what cable providers did. Just kind of like all this work. Just kind of here, one space, go.

[Dan LeBatard]

There, flood the zone. They're flooding the zone with streamers. And what ends up happening is you have to pay for cable and the streamers because if you want the full streaming experience, you still have to have the cable.

[Billy]

You gotta have the cable rights to then sign into the streamer.

[Dan LeBatard]

You can't even effectively cord cut.

[Zaz]

Anyway, I've got the outline for the NBA's where you can watch situation.

[Billy]

Okay, that's for this year. That's starting this year.

[Zaz]

Starting this year. Okay, so Sundays you can watch on abc, NBC or Peacock.

[Stugats]

That's after NFL.

[Zaz]

After NFL season, obviously.

[Stugats]

Yep.

[Zaz]

Because Sunday is dominated. Monday, Peacock, Tuesday, NBC and Peacock.

[Stugats]

Okay.

[Zaz]

Wednesday, espn, Thursday Prime, Friday prime and espn. Saturday prime and abc.

[Stugats]

There you go.

[Zaz]

So not confusing whatsoever.

[Stugats]

Five different.

[Zaz]

The problem is it used to be like ESPN on Wednesdays and Fridays and then Tuesday, Thursday was. And then after football season we had ABC for Sundays and that was that.

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Billy]

Did you see. Apparently only one time and I think it might be opening night. Only one time before Christmas. ESPN's using Inside the NBA.

[Stugats]

Yeah. No, that makes sense. They don't want to. Don't blow their wad on a random ass Friday game. Like they want it when people are watching. So they'll do it opening week and then they'll do Christmas and then after that we'll start picking up.

[Dan LeBatard]

I would assume you also don't want to cannibalize your football slate. ESPN has a fair amount of football that errs on their streamers and conventional channels. You want to dedicate your fall programming to football. If you have inside the NBA, that means less football. And football brings in the ratings. Even. Even the maxion.

[Stugats]

The maxion.

[Billy]

I don't know. Like, there's a lot of complaining from us. It sounds like when it comes to all it's different channels. This night. This night. This night. I don't know. It wasn't that long ago where, you know, you had. It was TNT on Thursday nights and like that's all you got. I mean now we have options all over the place. You watch.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, I get. I get you. You are paying A premium for that. And it is. The sport is in some ways more accessible because there's more of it. And.

[Billy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

And in some cases, it's clear where to get it. But it also comes at a price.

[Stugats]

To be also honest. And I know now I'm gonna sound like Zaz here, but, like, I'm already subscribed to Prime. I already have Prime.

[Billy]

That's what I'm saying.

[Stugats]

That's how I got War of the Worlds. That's how I saw War of the Worlds, and that's how I got socks. Right. Like, I'm already on Prime. Right. And then what else is there?

[Zaz]

Espn.

[Stugats]

Espn. We all already have that.

[Zaz]

NBC, Peacock.

[Dan LeBatard]

We love it.

[Stugats]

I have it.

[Zaz]

We got Hulu.

[Stugats]

Yeah, I've been had. Peacock. Because of how do I watch. Yeah, right. And then what else is there?

[Zaz]

That's it. Prime, Peacock and abc.

[Stugats]

And so it's like the people. Oh, and if you're in, I got to get Paramount. Plus, I already have it, man.

[Guest]

Sounds like people want to just want to complain.

[Stugats]

Maybe that's it. Yes, but it is like, it adds up.

[Dan LeBatard]

I had to get the zone for a month, but then they charged me for a full year. I don't. And most of the stuff is I still have to pay additionally for it because the FIFA Club World cup was on there.

[Stugats]

When does UFC switch to Paramount?

[Zaz]

26.

[Stugats]

26. Very close. Yeah, I can't wait right there. Can't wait to put on Lioness and not forgot.

[Zaz]

Exactly.

[Stugats]

Right.

[Zaz]

Amanda Nunes. Where is she? She's back against Kayla Harris and. Oh, my God. Biggest fight in the women's division. All right, so really quick. Can you substantiate something that I saw online that people were kind of crashing out about? Are there really west coast games starting at 11pm?

[Billy]

I saw that, too. I just not to believe it.

[Zaz]

Me too.

[Dan LeBatard]

I agreed.

[Stugats]

So Tuesday nights, the NBC game is going to be the late game. It's going to be. The early game is 8:00pm late game is 11:00pm what? And this is.

[Zaz]

So this is Tuesdays only, you're saying only Tuesdays.

[Billy]

Okay, so is that really 1115?

[Stugats]

It depends. Let me see what it depends now, when an 8pm start time for the early game, it shouldn't impact the start on the late game. What happened was back in the day, in. In on tnt. Tnt, Thursdays. This was notorious. You would have the east coast game and then the west coast game could not start if the east coast game was still going in regulation. Right. So if you had. It was, hey, It's a one point game.

[Billy]

Is it still like that today?

[Stugats]

No, it changed, it changed after a while but basically was, oh, if it's close but like not in overtime, then we're going to stay here and we can hold the start time on the.

[Billy]

Next game for like 10:52. You know those games would end up starting.

[Stugats]

Yep. And that was especially terrible like for us in Phoenix because during the winter we're mountain time. So our games, our son's games, nobody.

[Billy]

Knows mountain time is.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, that's so tough for you, man. You had to wait 40 minutes instead of like four hours like on the east coast west coast games.

[Stugats]

I mean, first of all, I was working those games. Second of all, that means I get home at like 2am as opposed to getting home like 1 or whatever. So it, it's a problem. Now I think they're trying to alleviate that problem by giving that three hour block for game one so that no matter how many overtimes it goes to, it'll never get to the point where we're halting the start of the other game. Now the interesting thing, now here's the thing. The NBA a couple years ago put made this whole push of we're not going to get these crazy late starts anymore. So you saw like Miami Heat Games start at 7pm and I was like, what? Well, it's because they want to start the west coast game early. They don't want to wait until 10:30. So they're trying to get a 10:00 clock start. And so we have all this stuff going on in order to keep the east coast people here. The fact that NBC is the only one that has 11pm games tells me they paid to say, hey look, this is important for us.

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[Billy]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Don LeBatard, you're getting started on the breakfast flan.

[Stugats]

Oh man, I've been singing a song to myself all morning long. Breakfast flan. Duh nuh nuh nuh.

[Dan LeBatard]

Stugats.

[Stugats]

Have you never Heard the Breakfast Flan song? No.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hit me with it.

[Stugats]

Okay. I wish I had some breakfast fun. Breakfast flan. Where can I find a breakfast like that?

[Billy]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know how Dan obsesses over music media coverage.

[Stugats]

Does he?

[Dan LeBatard]

And always in stand up comedy. I kind of feel like that's beginning to happen with streamers and me. And I don't like it. I want to nip it. But I do have a point of contention for something that said. Like you were. You guys were very casual. Like, we know what we need. We have most of what we need. No, I don't know what I need. They announced something that presently, if I want to watch ples. Xfinity and YouTube TV are not allowed to get the ple. The WWE Live events. Okay, but that deal has not been worked out yet. We know what they aspire to, but no, I do have those services and presently I'm twisting in the wind because I can't watch what I want to watch.

[Stugats]

Mike, let me ask you something. I'm going to start naming streamers. You stop me when you say I don't have that one.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I have all of them and I have the cable packages.

[Stugats]

What do you need?

[Billy]

No, he wants to know what you have to be paying for wwe because his current provider does not. It hasn't been disclosed yet. If that is going to be included. Like for instance, I have DirecTV stream and mine is going to be included for this WWE pay per views. Okay, I'm not included.

[Stugats]

Hate that delay.

[Billy]

But here's. Here's the thing, Mike. It's not taking place for other five months. Like I get it that two weeks ago the deal was announced. And be really nice if the deal had a little bit more clarity. I'm with you, but it's five months away.

[Dan LeBatard]

There were reports that a newly created play will air on ESPN before that, just this morning. Now, that's all rumor and innuendo when it comes to wrestling, but there's just something new every day that confuses me about this. I think maybe four years from now is when we get Super League. To answer your initial question, no thanks.

[Stugats]

I tried to transition in the middle of that, by the way. I don't know if anyone caught it when asked.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, we. We went on a tangent, but I think it's inevitable just because that's where the money is. And yeah, the Big ten and SEC have the influence right now. It's kind of deserved, but this is the second biggest sport in America. And it just goes against all the free market capitalism ideals of this country that it's not going to be maximizing. Get to a point where I think ultimately the College Football Playoff will be an employer for a tier that is set for those 40 to 50 programs that are of that level. I don't know what this means for the Northern Illinois of the world. It probably means a very different looking sport for them, but that's just where this stuff is headed eventually.

[Guest]

I think we need some sort of imaging for when we talk streaming.

[Stugats]

I agree.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

What should it sound like?

[Mike Ryan]

A river?

[Dan LeBatard]

There we go. That makes me want to pee.

[Stugats]

Well, that's a very weak stream.

[Zaz]

It is a weak stream. You got to check that prostate.

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Wow, you guys are very judgy with the streams.

[Stugats]

Couple of fingers up here. I don't know everything.

[Zaz]

How's your uncle?

[Stugats]

So I don't like it. Keep searching.

[Dan LeBatard]

You guys were right about not reading too much into the. The practices and whatnot, because the preseason game rolled around for the Miami Dolphins and it looked very, very different.

[Jeremy]

Dolphins are fixed. Tom McDaniel got his signature win over the Lions.

[Billy]

Dolphins have no losses this preseason.

[Jeremy]

Undefeated. Undefeated with a tie.

[Stugats]

Nah, that's.

[Zaz]

Now we're talking.

[Billy]

Is that a camel?

[Stugats]

No, that's. That's. That's me at Las Rosas last night.

[Zaz]

That's a road trip. Piss.

[Dan LeBatard]

How'd you like the updated bathroom?

[Stugats]

Wow, man. You know what's funny? I joked with Michael, I'm gonna do my own little bar rescue recon. And whenever bar rescue renovates bars, they're all like, oh, we got you seven POS systems. Oh, we got the orange door system. All these upgrades, they never go into the bathrooms. And I've been reading, like, Yelp reviews of the renovated bars. And, like, the bathrooms are still as gross as ever. Right? These beautiful looks. Beautif. All these LED lights and stuff. Gross bathrooms. Mike and his boys, you know what they did? They said, let's take care of the facilities. Let's make sure that people come in here, and it's nice and clean and well lit. And I appreciate multiple urinals. I hate me a bar with one urinal, just one in there, and it's.

[Dan LeBatard]

Next to the sink.

[Guest]

Often you are planning for a lot of people if you have one urinal in here.

[Dan LeBatard]

Exactly.

[Guest]

You got to set the expectations a little higher.

[Stugats]

Zagak, have some urinals, man. And splash guards with dividers, too. The splash guards.

[Billy]

Splash guards.

[Stugats]

Or what are the privacy screens? What do you call them?

[Zaz]

Yeah, divider.

[Guest]

Privacy divider. I know exactly what you're saying.

[Stugats]

Splash. Guards know splash.

[Zaz]

There's a thing inside the urinal that. So it doesn't shoot back.

[Stugats]

I thought it's also so it doesn't.

[Dan LeBatard]

Shoot to the side, but that's often operator error too. Maybe you got to go sideways. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There are ways. You got to have a little touch on that pass.

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know.

[Stugats]

Well, I mean, sometimes there are obstructions that lead to unexpected obstructions that lead to a diverted stream. I have that.

[Guest]

I had that happened to me recently where somebody like got a little on the ground. It hit the gray. It was like a visual, like they were peeing and it like hit the ground and like I saw it hit the ground and it was so bad that they were like, sorry. Usually it's just like an unspoken thing. Like, like. All right, we both saw. We don't have to comment. He was.

[Stugats]

My bad.

[Guest]

It's on my shoelace now.

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Billy]

You threw it away, right?

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Billy]

Sound like it sound like a.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Guest]

I mean, I'm at an establishment. What am I gonna walk out one shoe?

[Mike Ryan]

Put it in the washer?

[Stugats]

Honestly, the washer. No, that's not in the washer. No, not the whole shoe. Just shoelace. No part of the lace is going in that washer. Put on some gloves and take it off. Man. There you go. You gotta scrub that thing. Yeah, the little tub. Squeeze some soap. Scrub it out. The Dolphins won.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Dolphins won. And Quinn Ewers look good. Apparently.

[Stugats]

Look not as bad.

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't watch this game the way that I watched the Bears. And there was mixed feedback on Quinn Yours performance from the last game. This one. Everyone seems to be pretty positive about it.

[Billy]

Yeah, he. He was good. And I don't see the reason in having Zach Wilson on this team. I really don't like. We. We know what Zach Wilson is. He's been the league long enough. He sucks, man. Get off my team.

[Guest]

Has he been in the league long enough? I feel like that's debatable. I'm not with you. I'm not saying this is his fifth year. I think he didn't play at all last year.

[Billy]

This is 13 reason.

[Guest]

Yeah, you know, I'm just saying, you know, he's got a big arm.

[Jeremy]

He also failed twice at the jets before they got rid of him. You know what?

[Billy]

That's another thing you're saying he's got a big arm. Dolphins had a clear touchdown receive. I forget which receiver was. Who the hell can keep track of the names Guys are not going to make a team. But dude had four yards on the defender. He underthrew it so bad and it ended up being incomplete. Pass. I thought that's supposed to be a strength, that he's got a big arm and he sucks, man. I'd much rather I. I said it last week. I'd. After quinn ewers was 5 or 18. I told you. I'd much rather have Quinn Ewers on this team, let him develop as a backup, than have this Zach Wilson. I'm. I'm done with seeing him. Man sucks.

[Stugats]

Billy, rebuttal.

[Jeremy]

I don't have a rebuttal to that. He's not wrong.

[Billy]

He knows I'm right.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, no, he's absolutely right. I mean, Quinn, yours is already QB2. I think in everybody's mind. He cannot possibly be behind Zach Wilson on the.

[Guest]

I believe he is.

[Jeremy]

He can't. He's not going to head into the season as a number three quarterback with the way that two of them have performed preseason.

[Guest]

Zach Wilson, 6 million this year.

[Billy]

Sucks, man.

[Stugats]

How does that happen?

[Billy]

That's like the rate for backup quarterback.

[Stugats]

No, no, I'm just. No, I'm just saying Zach Wilson in general. Like you were.

[Billy]

It's weird, right?

[Stugats]

Like you were. Look, I get it. Maybe you weren't going to be the second best player in your draft class.

[Billy]

No, but it happens all the time what you're saying.

[Stugats]

But. Yeah, that's. But it's always funny to me. It's like, it's never. They miss like, oh, I thought he was going to be great. He ended up being okay. It's always, I thought you got to be great dog. How is that the gap every single time?

[Jeremy]

By the way, Zach Wilson is the least of the Dolphins problems at the moment, right?

[Billy]

Of course.

[Jeremy]

They have so many other problems. Like Zach Wilson's not make or break for the Dolphins season.

[Billy]

I mean, biggest problem right now is Devon H. Anger to be ready week number one. I feel like that's probably.

[Zaz]

They said it wasn't severe soft tissue, but not severe.

[Billy]

I don't know. I mean, he was pretty coy about it, that Mike McDaniel. It's gonna be days to weeks. Well, exactly. It's gonna be days to weeks. What does that mean?

[Stugats]

Like anything more than seven, it turns into weeks. Right?

[Billy]

Days to weeks.

[Stugats]

If it's eight days, you're already in weeks. Right. Because it's this week and then a little bit of next week.

[Dan LeBatard]

We're already headed to week one. Install. Don't want to tip Your cards. That's so that's all that is gamesmanship.

[Stugats]

I like the idea that this matters.

[Dan LeBatard]

I like that they take a break from the preseason. Like, all right, everyone gets one last vacation. And.

[Jeremy]

This team, it's more time for trouble. Honestly, like, you think that off week is going to be spent productively? Because I have no faith in this team.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think Tyreek Hill is just going to stay home and chill.

[Jeremy]

It seems like they just met each other a week ago. It's crazy to know each other still. It's been five years.

[Billy]

What are we doing right? Tyreek Hill told us he finally is starting to understand the offense okay on the team fourth year.

[Stugats]

Is that just him trying to say things that he thinks fans will like.

[Jeremy]

Or he's missing on that mark? I would say. I would say on the majority of things that he's saying, the fans aren't buying it. Like, I'm done with this team. I don't want to be here anymore. Whatever he said last year, that one missed the mark too.

[Stugats]

I'm just saying. Do you think. Is it possible, like, when he says, I'm finally starting to understand the offense.

[Guest]

In his mind, to your point? Yes. He thinks he's like, I got this fans right where I want.

[Billy]

He thinks he's being a leader now, right?

[Stugats]

Like. Like, people are thinking like, oh, cool, guys, this whole time he's been great and he didn't even understand the offense. Now that he understands it, we're going to be amazing. I think that's what he's trying to project as opp. So actually letting us know, I didn't understand the offense for four years.

[Jeremy]

Not that anyone cares about this, but like now when you look back and like, I'm not saying this to defend. Tua is a. Tua is like an elite quarterback in the league. But now that he's saying this, you look back at like the first two years and like, maybe Tariq was actually running the wrong routes the entire time when Tua kept missing. Like, wow, Tua does not know what.

[Billy]

He'S doing to a little bit here.

[Jeremy]

I'm saying, like, now he's saying, I didn't really know the playbook. It's like, oh, maybe, maybe we're wrong about that situation and we just gave Tyreek Hill the benefit of the doubt because he was the fast guy and he was from the Chiefs and Tua was the guy that the year before got benched and had the whole thing with Brian Flores. But Tua needs to step it up. Let's be Real.

[Jerbear]

Hey, it's Jeremy here. I don't know if you've noticed this about me, but I'm not quite someone who loves confrontation or fighting.

[Stugats]

I don't really want to end up.

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[Stugats]

You say you'll never join the Navy, that living on a submarine would be too hard. You'd never power a whole ship with nuclear energy, never bring a patient back to life.

[Dan LeBatard]

Or play the national anthem.

[Stugats]

For a sold out crowd. Joining the Navy sounds crazy. Saying never actually is. Start your [e-mail] America's Navy Forged by the Sea. Don LeBatard.

[Guest]

All right, we gotta go back out there. That was big. Wake him up.

[Stugats]

Oh, he doesn't want. He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that. As a result, he needs something that happens.

[Guest]

Can we bother. Are we bothering you right now?

[Stugats]

Turn on your microphone. My microphone's on st. Paint the scene.

[Guest]

The paint the scene is.

[Stugats]

I gotta go to work.

[Dan LeBatard]

Good night.

[Billy]

This is the D. Levatar show with the st.

[Stugats]

I'm really excited because Jackson Dart looks like the real deal.

[Zaz]

You're Giants, huh?

[Stugats]

Giants, you know.

[Billy]

Oh, that's your. That's your team?

[Stugats]

That's my team, man. You know, I said being a Giants fan is the most rewarding thing in my life because I know once a decade we're going to win a Super Bowl. Every year, every decade of my life, they've won a Super Bowl. So I'm like, you can be trash the rest of the time. Just give me one within a decade and we're good.

[Billy]

You know, it's funny because I hear you say that and then I think to myself, okay, would I rather that where we're likely going to be shitty for almost every year, but once a decade we are going to win a Super Bowl? Or would you rather, you know, maybe you're able to contend every single year, maybe you can win multiple Super Bowls. And then I stop myself and I'm like, your team, meaning me, has been shitty every single year for decades now. Wouldn't it have been nice they've given you. Mix in a couple of super bowl wins.

[Stugats]

They've given you neither. I like that. No, it's funny because I have the perfect. I'm a Yankees fan. And it's like, obviously I had that moment in the 90s and early 2000 that was amazing. But it's like you feel kind of that emptiness now. Like, wow, that was a long time ago. Versus the Giants. I have like once a decade, I get to pipe up and speak, talk my shit and like, aha. And then I go back into hiding and I don't have to worry about anything. And when people try to stress me about, like, oh, your Giants suck. I'm like, they'll be fine.

[Dan LeBatard]

And it's. Even though the NFC east is probably the division in the NFL with the most prestige.

[Stugats]

Yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's been random. Teams go from the bottom to the top.

[Billy]

I think you're right. It makes sense because we're talking northeast.

[Stugats]

Well, it's called Cowboys, Giants, Eagles and Washington.

[Dan LeBatard]

So that's, I think, famously, for several string, for a several year string, they had a different division winner.

[Billy]

And it's been longer than that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. And it's. It's kind of similar to the AFC south and the NFC south in terms of parity, but we don't think of it that way because you have really prestigious teams in there. But the Dolphins, if you want to just do, like, the. The jealousy of the fandom thing, the Giants have existed in this division that has a fair amount of parody. The Dolphins, once they finally get Tom Brady out of the equation, Josh Allen strolls in, right?

[Billy]

The team who went 17 years with no playoffs now runs your decision.

[Dan LeBatard]

So you never get the. Well, at least we have. We're that random division. At least we get the benefits of a home playoff game where we can snipe one of these teams that are better. The best you guys have ever felt about your team in the last 20 years. You had to stroll into Arrowhead Stadium and It was negative 20 degrees out. It's. It's. It's a little unfair.

[Stugats]

It feels cruel on some level. The other. The other thing about being a Giants fan is finding out that Daniel Jones is still in the NFL. That shocked me.

[Billy]

I was like, what might start week one?

[Stugats]

That's what I'm saying. I'm like, oh, he's alive and, like, competing for a job. How's this possible? And then I thought about Anthony Richardson. I said, is he about to have the same sort of situation as Zach Wilson? Where it's like, you went from, oh, this guy's gonna be amazing to not. Not just not great, but not good.

[Billy]

Well, the difference being Zach Wilson had a resume in school. Like, everyone thought Zach Wilson was going to be a good quarterback in the NFL. Anthony Richardson had, like, a dozen starts in college.

[Stugats]

Your entire collegiate career, you know, called me crazy. I knew Zach Wilson wasn't going to work out. You know, when I knew the Heisman trophies, like, finalists, when they got him up on stage and he, like, looked at the guy, left him, like, and he does this cartoonish goal. That's when I knew, that dude will never, ever be good. Because you can't be intimidated. Like, it's an award show. First of all, why would you be intimidated by that? How insecure are you?

[Billy]

Who was the guy next to him?

[Stugats]

It was whoever the finalists were for Heisman that year, someone could look it up. But it's. I swear to God, if video can find it, it is the funniest thing ever, because, like, and the final is for Heisman, and they all, like, step up onto the stage, and it's like, he's A little shorter than other guys. And he looks to the left and looks to the right and his eyes get wide and he's like, is that.

[Dan LeBatard]

The draft or the Heisman?

[Zaz]

I think you might be conflating the.

[Stugats]

Two where all the draft.

[Guest]

First.

[Zaz]

First round guys step up and then he's there. Like I remisibly smaller than everybody.

[Dan LeBatard]

Looks around like, yeah, I remember him being memeable from the draft. I don't even recall him being in New York for the Heisman finalist. It may be.

[Stugats]

Maybe. I stand corrected. Maybe. But either way, it was before he played an NFL second.

[Zaz]

It was good scouting on your part, though, because you saw and you were like, there's fear in those eyes.

[Jeremy]

Fear.

[Stugats]

And then the gulp. And then. So you could see in his mind like, come on, Zach, Pep, you're just as good as these guys. And he stands up, he's like. He tries to puff off his chest. I'm like, get the hell out of here, man. You're supposed to be a leader in a locker room. You're supposed to tell people what to do. You're like, oh, I don't know. These guys look kind of big, Mom.

[Dan LeBatard]

So he has a big arm, but he's undersized, turnover prone. He has a big arm, but he takes sacks and oftentimes the ball ends up in the other team's hands. So what does Zach Wilson actually bring to the table to earn $6 million and another opportunity? Is it the fact that he has starting experience and teams value that? I'm sure the Dolphins can get out from this contract because he's not a starter. I don't know what level of guarantees are there, but I understand why with a quarterback like Tua, who you will perpetually have injury concerns with. He's a hit away from his career. I guess anybody is a hit away from their career ending, but it feels.

[Stugats]

Like it's actually really close.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, TUA feels like an innocuous hit may end his career.

[Stugats]

I don't want to shout too loud around here.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. So are you comfortable with going with Quinn Ewers as your backup quarterback when Quinn Ewers also is undersized as opposed to Wilson?

[Stugats]

Man.

[Dan LeBatard]

But I'm trying to figure out what he brings to the table. If it's experience. I'm pretty sure an experienced quarterback is going to get cut around the league that he can bring in.

[Stugats]

Where's Tannehill?

[Billy]

Nowhere.

[Jeremy]

Still waiting to get that starting job on a playoff team.

[Stugats]

Y' all remember last year I said, man, Tannehill should go to the Dolphins because the dude is definitely going to get hurt.

[Jeremy]

They're not going to bring him in here. We talked about this last week. The Dolphins are not going to bring in anyone to be a number two quarterback that's a threat to Tua starting. Like they are not going to do that. That's why they've had bad backups. But Quinn, you were like this was supposed to be them going and like doing a thing like oh, Zach Wilson. Now we're going to take this seriously. But they don't want a quarterback controversy.

[Guest]

I love that you. Billy has them being like we need a bad quarterback. They're finding. Trying to find the best of.

[Jeremy]

No, not someone that's too good. They don't. They. You think that.

[Billy]

I think Billy's right.

[Stugats]

He's on to something. I think Billy's onto something.

[Guest]

They're not going to terrible way to do that.

[Jeremy]

Well, that's why we see the results that we've gotten because of the approach that they've been taking.

[Billy]

Let me ask something, Chris. Let me ask him. Forget about the money. If there was a way to acquire him to be your backup, do you think it'd be a good idea for the Dolphins to acquire Kirk Cousins?

[Guest]

Oh, yes. I'm with you.

[Billy]

And I would say no because of exactly what Billy's talking about.

[Guest]

And I wouldn't worry about to his feelings. I would just be like if I'm Chris Greer, like I want the second best quarterback that I can possibly find in the like amount of money I have to spend on a back.

[Jeremy]

They could. They could have signed Jameis Winston if they wanted to for another one. I would for a two year deal worth the same as Zach Wilson's one year deal and they didn't do it.

[Stugats]

Great, man. Well.

[Billy]

And you know why they don't do that though? Because exactly what Billy's talking about. The entire locker room, no matter what team he's on, loves Jameis Winston.

[Guest]

Might it be the media more they're worried about? Like we would be talking about Tannehill.

[Billy]

It plays a part.

[Guest]

Like I think the locker room would be like I'm gonna tell you right.

[Stugats]

Now, any team that does. I'm sure it happens. But it's really rare. Does stuff because they're worried about what the media are going to say. Like unless it's an off the field issue that doesn't exist.

[Guest]

But that's where that narrative would be bigger.

[Stugats]

But what Billy's saying is absolutely right. Where it's like you want a guy who's Good, but not too good because we don't want to kind of upset the golden goose and push back.

[Jeremy]

It also shows kind of like, I don't know how much they actually believe in Tua if that's the approach. Right. Because if they actually believed in Tua, they're like, well, we're never even gonna have to get to this. So it doesn't matter. We'll have someone, but it doesn't matter. But with Tua, like, you know, an injury is definitely a possibility at some point in the season. And if your backup is better than Tua, then what do you do when you just gave him $50 million a year?

[Zaz]

I think that's the part. It's like, you should be from a responsible front office. You should be getting a quarterback that can be very, like, good to very good. If your guy's going to go down knowing that TUA is one shot away from falling.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, back to the original point. Jameis may be available because Jackson Dart did look good.

[Jeremy]

He's going to end up in New Orleans again, right, Jamis? New Orleans is a. They need a real quarterback. Spencer Rattle.

[Zaz]

You don't like Tyler Schuck?

[Billy]

No. They're going to go with Tyler Schuck, probably.

[Zaz]

They've got a tough start to the season, by the way. First six games, tough.

[Stugats]

Shuck and jive. Mike White on the Bills.

[Zaz]

You've been watching Hard Knocks.

[Stugats]

I have been watching Hard Knocks.

[Billy]

Son of a bitch.

[Stugats]

I was like, wow, man. And everyone's giving him great props.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

And I'm like, well, if he's that good, then why the Dolphins let go of him?

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[Stugats]

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[Stugats]

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[Stugats]

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