Local Hour: The Sink Be Shippin'

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Local Hour: The Sink Be Shippin'

Release Date: December 18, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Mike Ryan, Chris Long, Jonathan Zaslow, Kayla Jones, Aleli Mae, Matthew, Jeremy

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Episode Overview

This “Local Hour” episode delves into the raw and fraying emotions of South Florida sports fans—especially around the Miami Dolphins’ quarterback Tua Tagovailoa and the surging Florida Panthers. Against a backdrop of classic Le Batard Show banter, the crew discusses the shifting cultural tides of fandom, athlete accountability, the toll of professional sports, and the complicated, often conditional, nature of fan-athlete relationships. Also, expect their irreverent takes on press integrity, Miami sports culture, and some memorable detours into nostalgia and identity.

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Key Topics & Highlights

1. Journalism, Fan Identity & Sports Talk Performances

[02:16–07:13]

• Sports Host “Tor-rage”:

  • Zaslow’s intense emotions about the Dolphins and Tua’s performance draw criticism and mockery, sparking a conversation about whether sports talkers are journalists or fans with degrees.
  • Aleli Mae: “Just because you have a journalism degree does not make you a journalist.” (06:40)
  • The group jokes about Zaslow looking like an undercover cop and debate “what makes a journalist?”

• Integrity vs. Entertainment:

  • Kayla Jones prefers being “interesting than right.”
  • Matthew skewers sports hosts deflecting blame: “When I’m wrong, it’s not my analysis. The athlete messed up.” (03:00)

2. South Florida Hockey Renaissance: The Florida Panthers’ Grit

[08:09–14:21]

• Hockey vs. Football Toughness:

  • Mike Ryan: Proposes hockey players are the toughest athletes, given their travel, pain tolerance, and culture.
  • Chris Long: “Football players go a week... hockey players have four multiple car accidents a week.” (10:39)
  • Jonathan Zaslow: “Let me know the next time you hear a hockey player complain about anything.” (10:49)

• Consequences of Toughness:

  • Aleli Mae: Points out the darker side—lifelong mental/physical consequences and the hockey culture of subordinating self to team.

• Panthers & Generational Fandom:

  • Dan and others mark the emergence of new, generational Panther fandom, partly due to their relentless, hard-nosed play.
  • Dan Le Batard: “Generational fandom is being born now … because not just the winning, but the things that we’re talking about.” (13:11)

3. The Fickle, Conditional Love for Tua & The Dolphins

[21:12–47:00]

• Tua on the Outs?

  • Adam Schefter reports Tua will be third-string, likely gone soon.
  • Zaslow voices fan anger at Tua’s sideline laughter after a loss:
    • “Fans … love about the hockey team, they care so much … Tua, boy, he’s having a great time as he’s about to lose his job.” (21:50)

• Is It Fair? The Humanity of Quarterbacks

  • Dan Le Batard & Mike Ryan: Push back—reminding listeners of Tua’s humanity, pressure, concussions, media scrutiny, and personal struggles.
  • Mike Ryan: “He was kind of alone... as the ship started to sink.” (26:42)
  • Aleli Mae: “How do you have confidence... when your offensive line… is ranked the golden sieve…” (26:54)
  • Mike Ryan: “He looked like he had a ton of confidence when he was leading the league... but what if you wake up next to your new baby and you’re like, I don’t know how my brain is doing?” (27:21)

• Media’s Role & Fan Projection

  • Matthew: “Why aren’t you breaking your TV like a dumbass like I did last night? … Most people are able to compartmentalize.” (24:27)
  • Quinn Ewers: “The sink is shipping and Greer’s the first one out.” (35:07)

• Conditional Love & The Illusion of Loyalty

  • Aleli Mae: “You’re like the Russian mail order bride… only with him because he’s a multimillionaire. Now he’s gone broke… it never was real." (40:03)
  • Mike Ryan: “The fan base dared to care, and they’re mad at him for it, and I don’t blame them…" (43:37)

• Historical Perspective: Decades of Dolphin Disappointment

  • Mike Ryan: “Before 2000, this was the winningest franchise… then for 25 years, this fan base doesn’t win a playoff game. Not a single one…” (33:42)

4. Nostalgia & The Miami QB Graveyard

[44:18–47:00]

• Reminiscing best Dolphins QB moments of the last 25 years: Jay Fiedler, Gus Frerotte, Ronnie Brown’s Wildcat, Matt Moore, Cleo Lemon.
• Jeremy: “My first quarterback memory for the Dolphins is Jay Fiedler. He’s still my favorite.” (44:07)
• Kayla Jones: “Ron was the last line of defense.” (47:37)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Aleli Mae: "Journalism is something you live every day, Zas. In your heart, in your spirit, in your words. You are as biased as they come." (06:51)
• Chris Long: "He looks like an undercover cop. Witty might behave as an undercover cop..." (07:50)
• Mike Ryan: "I think what it takes to be a hockey champion physically is actually harder than all of the other sports." (09:33)
• Jonathan Zaslow: "Can you imagine a player on the Panthers... just yucking it up with the other player? That’s part of what has me so angry about this [Tua]." (21:50)
• Matthew: "This is the part where fans project their loser lives onto athletes. Why aren’t you breaking your TV like a dumbass like I did last night?” (24:27)
• Aleli Mae: "If I’m Tua… the only reason I’m putting my life on the line past all of these concussions is because I feel the love is real. And now you’re telling me, oh no, it never was real?" (40:03)
• Chris Long: "Very few athletes bring this out of me." (45:34)
• Mike Ryan: “We planned a trip to Las Vegas … because we thought the Dolphins were going to the Super Bowl that year.” (46:23)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |------------|----------------------------------------------------------| | 02:16 | Zaslow’s “tour rage” and debate about sports journalism | | 08:09 | Panthers' toughness and generational fandom conversation | | 13:24 | Miami vs. Broward fandom and Winter Classic worries | | 21:12 | Tua benched; Zaslow’s rant about laughing on the sideline| | 26:54 | The toll of poor O-lines and brain trauma on Tua | | 33:23 | The pain of 25 years of Dolphins disappointment | | 40:03 | Aleli Mae’s analogy: Conditional love for Tua | | 44:18 | Recapping decades of Dolphins’ quarterback mediocrity | | 47:00 | Show closes with Dolphins’ lowest moments |

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Conclusion

The episode weaves the high-strung anxiety and resignation of Miami sports fans into an articulate, often funny, and at times poignant look into what it means to care about a team and the people who play for them. Through the lenses of Tua’s unraveling Dolphins career and the Panthers’ blue-collar surge, the crew deconstructs fandom, the myth of loyalty, and the human cost of professional sports—all while keeping the banter real, raw, and unmistakably “Le Batard.”

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For listeners and non-listeners alike, this episode is a masterclass in sports talk that’s at once deeply local and universally relatable, bouncing between nostalgia, skepticism, anger, hilarity, and pathos—matching the rollercoaster that is South Florida sports fandom.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Long]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

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[Mike Ryan]

Book [e-mail] Zaslow I'm made uncomfortable by your level of tour rage.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What's uncomfortable about it?

[Mike Ryan]

It's just outsized. It's. You're. You're not reasonably angry. You've got 25 years of resentment built up for this organization.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, you know what it is? I don't know if you're aware of this feature, this character trait when it comes to sports talk show hosts. Dan, we like to be right. And I've been very wrong about tua, so I don't like being very publicly wrong. All right? But at the same time, like, I don't know, like, that his behavior last game, it really bothered me.

[Matthew]

He's absolutely right. The number one feature of a sports talk radio host or sports talk TV is I want to be right. And when I'm wrong, it's not because I did poor calculations or poor projections or poor analysis. It's because the athlete I picked messed up. It's all his fault.

[Kayla Jones]

I think I'd rather be interesting than right.

[Mike Ryan]

Nick Wright.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I like being right. In this case, I was very wrong. And, yeah, this is me. Like, I get it. It could be dopey fan stuff. I'm totally.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not journalism to be that biased. To be. And I'm not saying that you and Amin aren't right. I believe it's a large governor and how a lot of people on sports television opine about athletes. They made me look bad, therefore I'm mad. My opinion is emotional.

[Chris Long]

I love admitting when I'm wrong.

[Aleli Mae]

Zaz, are you a journalist?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, yeah.

[Aleli Mae]

I would not consider you a journalist.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, that's great that you don't consider me one. But if you were ever to come to the Zaslow mansion, you would see that there is a degree from school journalism, and that makes me journalist.

[Chris Long]

Santa Fe School of Journalism.

[Mike Ryan]

Nope.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Never step foot on that campus.

[Aleli Mae]

University of Phoenix.

[Mike Ryan]

Let's start the show. A year with you Turning over, turning over, Turning over, turning over. Holidays are back.

[Kayla Jones]

Jack.

[Mike Ryan]

Drop a new track here with an audio almanac. We said, bye, bye, Billy, and that was whacked. When will Stu come back? You know about that. Thai food lifts my mood. Zaslow is a wild dude. Nice hat hole. I got the scoop salute Juju Gotti with the alley.

[Matthew]

Ooh.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What's the worst part of the line? Will forget got a new wife. Roy Bellamy loves to talk park when Christmas is up. He says, does Craig have a Back in my day, the traffic just got in his way. And then he says, you never know. Confirming you don't get the show.

[Mike Ryan]

We got Pablo vocal modulatin a means been weekend observatin. Connor McD's McGover rating again.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

The Panthers took the so let's give.

[Mike Ryan]

It to Dan cause his name's on the show and hand it to Mike cause he happens to know now pass me the ball. Like Stafford Dipuka. Super disrespectful of Trista. Second day in questioning your journalism credentials.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Especially because I know Trista and she knows me. We've been friends for a few years now. It's very disrespectful.

[Aleli Mae]

I was there for Jonathan Zaslow at his lowest moment in his career. I lent an olive branch.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

She really was. That's how we became friends. When LeBron went back to Cleveland, that was hard too. But we did not know each other back then. She was very sweet to me a few years ago when I got let go from 7:90. The ticket.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, okay, but that's nice. And she's been disrespectful.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I know. That's my point.

[Mike Ryan]

Saying you're not a journalist. You say you have a degree. She can.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, I'm saying I have.

[Chris Long]

Are you into this dynamic where you say something nice and then Dan just tries to put a bigger wedge between you?

[Aleli Mae]

I kind of like it, actually. I feel very strong in me and Zaz's relationship. But just because you have a journalism degree does not make you a journalist.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I don't think that's true at all.

[Kayla Jones]

What?

[Aleli Mae]

Journalism is something you live every day, Zaz. In your heart, in your spirit, in your words. You are as biased as they come.

[Matthew]

My brother Zaz, in essence, he's saying, just because I dress like a police officer does not make me one.

[Aleli Mae]

I don't think he dresses like a journalist either.

[Chris Long]

He does dress like an undercover cop.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, that is fine. All right, I will accept that.

[Aleli Mae]

I am looking for some Mary Joanna out here. Do you know where I can find some kids?

[Mike Ryan]

What are we doing here with in general, the look? Are we saying, zaz, give me a undercover cop? Give me a list of categories. Is undercover cop better than skateboarder? Dresses like a skateboarder, Retired skateboarder.

[Chris Long]

Those are all the same Thing are they.

[Mike Ryan]

Can you give me a list of other things that are like that to knock off of the top undercover cop I thought was Witty acting at his strangest, trying to be a human being. I thought that was the standard we had around here for undercover cop. I don't know that this would fool anybody.

[Matthew]

No, he looks like an undercover cop. Witty might behave as an undercover cop, that guy looks like an undercover cop. But I'll give you something, he looks like more than undercover cop or retired.

[Chris Long]

Skateboarder, soda drinker, new metal frontman, fidget spinner salesman.

[Mike Ryan]

Put all of those on the pole.

[Aleli Mae]

Juju troll on the Internet.

[Mike Ryan]

I want to get to tua being benched and feeling hurt about being benched. And I want to get to the University of Miami as well in a second. But I do want to start by throwing you guys a theory on our local hockey team and see if you guys bite on this as they beat Los Angeles last night and hold it together in a way that is unusual given the injuries that they have.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What a team.

[Mike Ryan]

My theory is on when you say what a team is, basketball and baseball are hard on human beings physically. Okay, because of the amount of travel. People underestimate how hard it is, but the amount of travel and everything makes it very hard. But I think our standard bearers for toughness outside of boxing and the individual sports are hockey and football and what it takes to actually be a champion and what it takes to take the championship from a champion, a two time champion. The amount of physical resolve that it takes in that sport, culturally to become champion, I think shows you what this team is even without its best players as they try to hold this season afloat because it means something more to them to defend that championship. Because every day they're getting out of bed with physical pain and going to work. And the standard is you play no matter what the pain is. And it's in football too. But football doesn't also have the travel schedule that baseball and hockey have. So I believe that what it takes to be a hockey champion physically is actually harder than all of the other sports. And when you win the championship in that sport, you're actually tougher than you are in all of the other sports.

[Chris Long]

Is Evan Rodriguez even alive right now?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Did he get hurt again last night? Like, I know he got hit in the ear and then he came back. I'm like, look, he doesn't even have an ear anymore. He's still playing.

[Jeremy]

I just googled it. Google. AI says yes, professional hockey player Evan Rodriguez is alive and well.

[Chris Long]

Not well, I can guarantee.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I don't know about the well parts.

[Mike Ryan]

So take me through the two parts of my theory. First of all, would you be willing to concede that if it's harder to win the championship in that sport, people say than it is in any of the sport, that the hockey champion is tougher, just tougher than all of the other athletes?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I think just the hockey player is tougher.

[Mike Ryan]

Football, even football. Because I think most people listening to this would say football. But again, I'll tell you, football doesn't also have the schedule. They're traveling all over the place. You don't hear them complaining about load management. And they're traveling just as much as the baseball and the basketball players are.

[Chris Long]

Football players go, you know, a week, sometimes more in between car accidents. Hockey players have four multiple car accidents a week.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And you'll still get the football player every now and then who will come out and talk about, oh, you know, they want us to play an 18th game or they want us to expand the schedule. Do they really care about our safety? Like, let me know the next time you hear a hockey player complain about anything.

[Mike Ryan]

But I think, I do think that most of us would concede that football physically is harder than hockey on their valid complaints.

[Matthew]

Is this the part where we talk about their players association being weak and not taking care of its constituency?

[Chris Long]

You could argue that it's just a weird cultural thing with hockey. They're just different dudes.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, it is bizarre. And I think most people who love hockey know this. I don't know that most people in South Florida know about what it takes to be a two time champion in that sport when that's the culture you're talking about. The culture is you play through anything to defend that cup. Broken femurs, you break, you're a torso out there. You play through every single thing. And the guy next to you expects you to play through every single thing.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh my God. Like I've, I've made the point when it comes to the load management with the NBA. Like, can you imagine a hockey player walking into the dressing room the morning of the morning skate like, oh, you're not putting your stuff on today. What's going on? You know, I'm taking the day off. Like, the reaction will be crazy.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay? But, but I also think that hockey players are unhealthy mentally and physically.

[Aleli Mae]

Definitely. Oh yeah. And they put the culture of the team ahead of themselves and probably end up with lifelong mental issues as a result of all those concussions.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I mean, look, Matthew, Tkachuk, what he, what he played through in the postseason last year to defend their Stanley cup and of course win it again, is why he has not played yet this season.

[Chris Long]

And we forget the Stanley cup that they lost to the Knights in. He had a broken sternum, came back, had a game winning assist, and then missed the rest of the series.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, and that morning, too, Brady had to help him get dressed.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

I do want sort of the nation, though, to understand the link that's being made emotionally right now between this town and this team, whatever it is the Knicks are feeling for a team that hasn't won a championship. You are seeing the seed sown on that team represents me. I love its grit. I love how it fights. I love that it represents me in a way that I'm going to pass down to my kids. Generational fandom is being born now in South Florida because not just the winning, but the things that we're talking about. Oh, they're going to be that proud about the way they try to defend their titles.

[Matthew]

Dan, I hate to break it to you what's happening. You're right. Seeds are being sown and grown and maybe lifelong fandom. But the biggest thing that's happening is that every other professional sport in this market isn't doing this.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay? That's how the Heat did it for 20 years. That's how they stole the entire market.

[Matthew]

But. But the point is the Heat get Giannis tomorrow and go to the finals. That this town.

[Mike Ryan]

Hockey.

[Matthew]

Get the hell out of here.

[Jeremy]

No, I'm not.

[Chris Long]

I'm not remotely going to argue that we are a hockey town, at least not yet. That's why I'm really curious and excited and a little bit of me is fearful about the Winter Classic, too. I think this is certainly Broward's team.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Meaning you don't think it's gonna be a crowd?

[Chris Long]

I hope it is. I think it's. This is Miami Dade County's opportunity to show that team from Broward how much it's appreciated the last three.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I mean, also, Mike, like, it's. Yes, it's Broward and it's Dade. It's not a three hour drive.

[Chris Long]

I understand. I understand all those things. It's also a bigger stadium.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It is Friday rush hour. It might be rough.

[Mike Ryan]

I think this is a reasonable concern that he has that Miami could get embarrassed and be national laughingstock here because Galle Ocho, look, these are two very different cities. I don't know if anyone here care about Radio Mombi ending its existence after 40 years. In this market firing their entire on air staff. But there are a contingent of people in Miami who only speak Spanish. That was their news source. It's gone after 40 years in this market. But. But it's keeping heat in Marlins games.

[Chris Long]

Oh, that's great.

[Mike Ryan]

They're getting rid of their on air staff. But they are because that that translates usually in both languages.

[Chris Long]

For those that aren't familiar with where Lone Depot park is, it is in the middle of a neighborhood in the most Hispanic area in Miami Dade. There are roosters walking the streets. It is Little Havana. The World cup is coming back to North America for the first time since 1994. 48 teams, these giant stadiums, the whole continent turning into one massive party. I cannot wait. But actually getting tickets to any of this. Yeah, that part.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Brutal.

[Chris Long]

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[Kayla Jones]

We're confident against the lighting. This is a different team. You're a Panther Group Chat. No, no, I think. No, but, dude, you're. You're so wrong on that. We've been terrified of this team forever, and I think there's a different energy where the Panthers, they want the Lightning sts.

[Mike Ryan]

I want T shirts made for this Panther run. What could be this Panther run? Our Panther Group Chat. We're not afraid of the lightning.

[Chris Long]

That's a Tagline for World Raw 3.

[Mike Ryan]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the St.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Trista. You know about that Lone Depot Park?

[Aleli Mae]

No, but I am so jacked. I would like to go. When is this?

[Chris Long]

It's the old Orange Bull site and it's going to be January 2nd. And I'm not necessarily fearful of it not being a great turnout. I think they'll pack the house. But I just want that team to feel appreciation. Specifically from Miami Dade County. We know how they've developed this following in Broward County. I see the crowds at the bars in Miami Dade. It's still very much growing here. And I just want this team to get respect the way that they deserve it.

[Matthew]

Are we saying hold on? The Lone Depot park is in the middle of a deeply Hispanic neighborhood. Who could have thought about putting it there? Who is this genius that we can thank?

[Jeremy]

The reality is Broward's gonna travel well. Like Broward will travel well for this because it's just one individual game.

[Mike Ryan]

And Ranger. Yeah.

[Chris Long]

But I want it to feel Miami. I want it to reflect the area, the precise area that it's in the old Orange Bull site. I know there are Latino Panther fans out there that make the trek up to Broward. And I just want this to feel a little bit more vibrant and reflect that community specifically.

[Matthew]

You can say vibrant.

[Chris Long]

Q Tip said vibrant thing.

[Mike Ryan]

I think that what Mike is speaking to is sort of how the World Baseball Classic, when it came to Miami, and all of a sudden it's super Latin in the crowd he's talking about. Will M represent the culture on a street of land where my grandparents lived and didn't speak English the entirety of their lives because there are roosters around there. And there was supposed to be a town that was supposed to be an economy that got lifted there. You're asking it for. For it to be super Latin. Not just energetic, but Latin.

[Chris Long]

I understand why it's not.

[Matthew]

They.

[Chris Long]

They announced one of the musical performers. And while it's a guy that you know a bit of a guilty pleasure, mine I like role model.

[Mike Ryan]

Role models perform.

[Chris Long]

Had a decent as performance.

[Kayla Jones]

It's not who's going to be his Sally.

[Chris Long]

It's not Pitbull. You know, that's what I kind of want. Second. Second intermission. You know, let's liven it up a little bit.

[Mike Ryan]

We'll talk more about the Winter Classic tomorrow. But I want you guys to answer the question before I get to TUA and the University of Miami of whether you're willing to buy on the idea that whether South Florida fully embraces it because it understands hockey or doesn't understand hockey, you're presently looking at something that not unlike the Chiefs and the Patriots, is the best thing this town has had in sports in terms of everything that you feel about sports. Because it's not just the winning. But you're going to fall in love with the players because they care as much as you do in a way that's super unusual.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So isn't that the answer to what you asked me 15 minutes ago? And what has me so angry about Tua? Like, the dolphins season ended on Monday night, and the face of the franchise who plays the most important position is laughing, is belly laughing, is cackling, is having a great time with a guy on the other team. And the Panthers, they give everything to the winning. Like, can you imagine. Can you imagine a player on the Panthers after they get eliminated from the playoffs? Just a regular season game? Can you imagine just yucking it up with the other player? That's part of. I think what has me so angry about this is all these things that we love about the hockey team, they care so much. And fans. That shit's important to fans. And then you got this where Tua, boy, he's having a great time as he's about to lose his job.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, we've got sound from Tua that doesn't sound like he's as happy as you're portraying him. I understand your rage. It's 25 years built up. Adam Schefter saying on McAfee, Clearly, Miami is going to be moving forward without Tua one way or another. He's third emergency quarterback this week, and that's just to protect his head and his trade value. Like, that's simply a business decision. But can we get the sound of Tua? This doesn't seem like a person who doesn't care, Zaslo. This is a person. You can't accuse him of not caring, can you? Just because he's laughing on the sidelines.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's not even just laughing on the sideline. It's after the game, like, it wasn't a singular laugh. Like. Like the one shot of him on the silent.

[Mike Ryan]

He.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He's having a great, great time after the game with Jalen Ramsey.

[Matthew]

Zaz, what if Jalen Ramsey says something funny, man? Like, you.

[Dan Le Batard]

You.

[Matthew]

You're. You're discounting how funny Jalen Ramsey is. And he's a former teammate, so, like, it's not out of the question, right? Like, sometimes. Hey, man, it doesn't mean, like, oh, I got. I'm angry. How do you know I'm angry, man?

[Mike Ryan]

Look at my face.

[Matthew]

Oh, you said something. I won't laugh with you.

[Mike Ryan]

Come on, man. Grow up.

[Matthew]

Grow up, man.

[Mike Ryan]

The adults.

[Matthew]

That mean he's not upset about losing. You know, I like making two jokes as Much as anybody. But like the idea, like this one snapshot of him talking to a former teammate, laughing. That means he doesn't care about anything.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It doesn't fly with me, man. Like I, I don't need, I don't need the players on my team who lose to be to go into some deep depression, some dark place after they lose the game. But can you have a little bit of self awareness as to what is going on here? You're the face of the franchise and you play like shit this year and this is how we're behaving in front of everybody. Come on, have a little self awareness.

[Matthew]

I think there's a difference in him running around like being the jokester, not taking anything seriously on a regular basis versus a 15 second clip of him talking to somebody he knows after the game. This is the part. You know what this is? This is the part where fans project like their loser like lives onto athletes. Why aren't you breaking your TV like a dumbass like I did last night? Because we lost his game. Sorry, man. Like that doesn't like that level of rage that just makes you kind of like angry at your family and all that stuff. Like that's not normal. Most people are able to compartmentalize.

[Mike Ryan]

You got mad at the TUA press conference.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, no, there's nothing to get mad about with TUA yesterday. I mean, I don't know what there is to be upset about. Like he's going to say I'm upset, of course. Like, what do you expect him to say?

[Mike Ryan]

You're not questioning the amount he cares. Correct. Because McDaniel is saying he wants conviction from the quarterback position. Let's play the McDaniel sound here. Talking about what seems like a slap at tua because his, his decision making, if it's not there on the first option, he needs him to have conviction about the second option. So he's basically saying he's got a quarterback who doesn't have confidence. And if you throw 15 interceptions, lead the league in interceptions, you're going to lose confidence.

[Quinn Ewers]

Ultimately, the team needs. And I'm looking for conviction in quarterback play.

[Mike Ryan]

And understanding that he is a rookie, I felt that he would play the.

[Quinn Ewers]

Position most convicted, which is.

[Mike Ryan]

And which impacts every player on the field.

[Quinn Ewers]

And you know, realistically, that's what I was looking for. I needed more convicted play from the quarterback position.

[Mike Ryan]

I thought Quinn could deliver on that. That's not used correctly. Most convicted means arrested a bunch of times. Like he's using the, the coach is using the wrong words. He needs his quarterback to have most more confidence. That's damning. He's slapping him when he's down. I want to examine the entirety of this with Tua because I will tell you that he lost this team in the middle of the season. And wherever it is that he didn't have real confidence, it evaporated right there when the guys in those locker room. In the locker room didn't like how he reacted to the adversity. So I imag imagine he's got a quarterback who's. Who's. You think he's mentally broken because of the concussions? I think he's mentally broken because this is a really hard job and he was kind of alone in doing it as the sink started, as the ship started to sink.

[Aleli Mae]

How do you have confidence or at least maintain confidence when your offensive line year after year has been ranked the golden sieve for worst in the league and you're under duress and Tua has been hit a bajillion times so close that we think he could retire at any time. It's really hard to have confidence when those two factors continue to be right there.

[Mike Ryan]

The one that she's like when I say the. All of it. Okay. There's one player in the entire league who's consciously watched the last few years as television has talked about his brain might not be right. This sport is dangerous. He looked like he had a ton of confidence when he was leading the league in passing. But what if you wake up next to your new baby and you're like, I don't know how my brain is doing and I gotta hide some of this from people. And now when I get in front of the microphones, everyone's mocking me when I'm in front of the microphones, cuz I'm losing and I'm a caricature. The last five years as an avatar for everyone in this sports media who's biased about being right and wrong is yelling about me on television. Whether or not I'm actually a good quarterback or a product of my coach. I imagine that would shake any human being's confidence.

[Jeremy]

McDaniel was looking for the word confident, right? Like the most convicted. I think he was he saying maybe having the most conviction.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, that's what he was going for.

[Jeremy]

I could, I could not figure out what word he was going for there.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, he just was trying to say he needs somebody who's maximum confident. But I just, I really do think we underestimate, like the humanity in the center of these huddles. Man, like, he's waking up next to a new baby every morning after six years of people arguing about, is this guy good or not? And then he gets like eight months of good where he gets to feel good. What are you laughing about?

[Matthew]

I mean, cause you keep saying, oh, he's waking up to a new baby. And in my mind I'm thinking of him waking up, like, who the is this?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Get that baby its own crib.

[Kayla Jones]

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[Mike Ryan]

Cards.

[Kayla Jones]

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[Chris Long]

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[Jeremy]

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[Mike Ryan]

Don LeBatard.

[Kayla Jones]

All right, we gotta go back out there. That was big. Wake him up.

[Mike Ryan]

Up. Oh, he doesn't want. He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that. As a result, he needs something that happens. You can see him.

[Kayla Jones]

Mother effing.

[Mike Ryan]

Can we bother?

[Kayla Jones]

Are we bothering you right now?

[Mike Ryan]

Turn on your microphone. My microphone's on St.

[Matthew]

Paint the scene.

[Kayla Jones]

The paint the scene is.

[Mike Ryan]

I gotta go to work. Good night. This is the Dan Levatar show with the St. Gods. You guys aren't understandably being very human about the mockery, laughter and anchor that we throw around to his ankle at the end here. Thanks for the good times. Get out of here. Hurry up about it. And I get it. Journalists I get. But I get it, man.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I could turn it off and on it.

[Mike Ryan]

25 years dolphin fans have been wrong about this team. You think the journalists are angry? Like, 25 years, this guy. This is the worst thing is being poor after you've been rich for five minutes there. This fan base dared to hope because of this quarterback who kept getting brain injured. And now we're mad at him because he dared to allow us to hope and we look stupid.

[Matthew]

You're absolutely right. That's what it is. If they. If he had just been not good, like, everyone be like, all right, well, who's next? Quinn? Yours? Give him a try. But it's the idea, Dan, that he tantalized them for a brief moment in time. They thought they saw a future. Remember the Super Bowl? We were like, what if the Dolphins make the super bowl here? That was a thing that we talked about.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, I'm not kidding you when I say, before 2000, this was the winningest franchise in all of sports. And then for 25 years, this fan base doesn't win a playoff game. Not a single one. He feels betrayed, he's pissed off, he's angry. And every time he voices any of this, it's just universal applause from the audience and thank you. Thank you for saying what I've been saying for 25 years. We suck in all the ways. But for five minutes, he thought he had a good team.

[Matthew]

That's a good sports media journalist right there, man. He knows what the audience wants. He's feeding them.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, my God. He gets another. More applause than everyone sucks. Get them all out of here. It's the easiest move in sports radio down here. People still care about this dumb thing. And Tua gave us five minutes of, wait a minute. Can they fake their way into having another Marino? Because nerd boy can call up 18 touchdowns for Raheem Mostert. Like, that's. The fan base is so pissed off and betrayed, so angry. And this is an easy point to just dump all their acid.

[Quinn Ewers]

But if you can put aside the betrayal and the feeling, the Quinn Ewers move is right right now. Because if you find something in him on that low contract, then you. You can kind of eat what's going on with Tua right now. Because it's been evident, like, it's embarrassing to have to hide your best or highest paid player every single week. So if Quinn can come in and be any kind of value, I think it's a win for the.

[Mike Ryan]

That's so interesting to me to see. The sink is shipping and Greer's the first one out. It's gonna.

[Chris Long]

It's the second time the ship is sinking. What I said what I say the sink is shipping.

[Matthew]

Which, by the way, I'm not mad at that. I want to see a sink be shipped away like that.

[Mike Ryan]

That means it's over.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm glad you mentioned that, because the first time he said I'M like, I've never heard that.

[Chris Long]

He caught it the. But then he just let it loose there.

[Matthew]

Let that sip.

[Mike Ryan]

Soon the ship be sinking. Michael Ray Richardson said it and I was uncomfortable around it then. And now I've got some sort of trauma in the middle of it where I don't know how to say that. That dolphin thing has been falling apart in front of our eyes for, I don't know, I'm gonna say 18 months. But the last five knockout, Greer McDaniel's in trouble. The three faces of this team that made it not a regional team, a national team, were Tyreek, Hill, McDaniel and Tua, all fighting for their jobs. And one after another, they fall out in different ways. And this is how Tua falls out. It's messy. And this will fall on McDaniel if he's fired too. Cuz he'll be the last place to put it. All of this anger has to go somewhere. And this is the worst place for it to go because this fan base is turned on this quarterback. My God, you pretended to love him through the brain injuries.

[Chris Long]

I don't think anybody pretended to love him.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Let him pretend.

[Chris Long]

I think they loved him. I think they loved him and I think he was given some grace and it's ending the way that it ends for any quarterback that is playing poorly for a pro team.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's why it sucks. I wasn't pretending to love him. I didn't love Tannehill.

[Chris Long]

I actually think he's being extended a compassion and a grace that most of the quarterbacks in his position aren't offered because I think everyone kind of understand. Understands there's a line of demarcation here. And the drop off was when these head injuries started to mount up.

[Matthew]

I think Dan is saying pretended because you guys turned on him so fast.

[Mike Ryan]

Superficial.

[Matthew]

If you actually love them. Exactly.

[Quinn Ewers]

That's what I was about.

[Matthew]

You'd feel bad for him and say, well, you know, I hope he gets the help he needs. Not like, get this bum out of here.

[Chris Long]

Well, it's not like he's coming over for Thanksgiving. Their relationship with him is superficial, so they care for him.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

How are we confused about what this relationship is?

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, wait a minute. I do think all of you are confused about it. And you're forgetting how adamant you were about fighting the media. No, this is real. This number one offense, this quarterback, real. You guys. You guys are being real. Rationalizing with this person is someone you rallied around making the Dolphins a national hopeful figure because you thought you had a quarterback.

[Chris Long]

I think I'm being a realist in describing the relationship for what it is.

[Mike Ryan]

Yep.

[Chris Long]

I think you're trying to make the relationship with the market something bigger than it is. I think people understand, like, it's a. It's a quarterback that plays for a pro team.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'll never understand why anyone would be confused with my feelings toward a player when he's playing well and he's benefiting me, and my feelings toward the player when he's playing terrible and making me unhappy. That's the relationship journalist. That's how sports work.

[Quinn Ewers]

And I think that's the full circle moment right there, which is why Tua is allowing himself to have a great time after the game. Because he tune into you, he hear you like, okay, this is how the fans have turned on me. I need to have. I need some kind of laugh with my friends so that I don't go home and have that depression that you speak of. Because listening to you talk about him, you would think he did something to your family. And you say you used to love this man.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I just, you know, like, I go back and I. I tweeted this out yesterday, like, man, the Dolphins would lose a game. We're talking 20, 25 years ago. And Dan knows this. You go in that dolphin locker room, you go talk to Jason Taylor, you go talk to Zach Thomas. You would think that someone died in their family different.

[Chris Long]

It's a different game these days as well.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Like, if Jason Taylor was sitting right here and I said to Jason, Tay Taylor, what do you think about two on the field laughing, you know, the other night with Jalen, he'd be disgusted.

[Chris Long]

I'm not saying that this isn't callous. It is. We should probably be nicer. But I would say that he's being offered more grace than, say, Daniel Jones was.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, but he was. I don't think it's the same relationship, guys. I think you're shrugging your shoulders.

[Chris Long]

Daniel Jones won a playoff game for New York.

[Mike Ryan]

You're shrugging your shoulders, I think, on something that ignores that while you're saying the correct things about this is the relationship. I'm the customer. Make me feel good, I will applaud. The love's not real. It's obviously conditional. But what if you get your identity from your sport playing quarterback and are making life and death decisions about whether I should keep playing because my brain's not working right. And you say that compassion is being extended to him now. And I say it is not being extended to him.

[Chris Long]

Dan, it's being extended to him over his objection because he pushes back on the notion about his brain being scrambled.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He was asked yesterday, are you dealing with any injuries?

[Mike Ryan]

We just talked about this with hockey, like, everything about it is incentivized.

[Chris Long]

I'm just saying, like, the grace is such that we're extending something to him that the player himself is not extending to himself.

[Matthew]

Yeah, he's like, come on, baby, French toast.

[Aleli Mae]

If the relationship is purely transactional. And you guys are all saying it's transactional. It's what have you done for me lately? As soon as you're not performing, you're a bum. Get out of here. Then if I'm tua. The only reason I'm putting my life on the line past all of these concussions is because I feel the love is real. And now you're telling me, oh, no, it never was real. You're like the Russian mail order bride who's only with her husband because he's a multimillionaire and now he's gone broke. So it's. I don't know.

[Mike Ryan]

Melania, do you have the sound of me screwing that up? The sink is shipping.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I was confused.

[Mike Ryan]

Do you have anything that you did.

[Chris Long]

Confirmation from home Depot that you got on your phone?

[Matthew]

Finally, it's in stock.

[Mike Ryan]

Did you do anything creatively with me screwing up matriculating yesterday?

[Kayla Jones]

Dan, I have you saying matriculating.

[Mike Ryan]

Matriculate the ball down the field.

[Matthew]

That's what I'm saying. You guys kind of just. You guys just moved on. And I was like, what?

[Mike Ryan]

Matriculate the ball down the field. Matriculate this year, Santa, don't be late. Cause Dan Levatar's not speaking. Great Nema. Tick my tick my trick, my trick you late this Christmas. The Phil dance Stocking with books and pens this Christmas and some hooked on phonics tapes to wrap around his ears. I send him an elf just to educate so maybe his mouth will miscalculate.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Never take my take my trick, my.

[Mike Ryan]

Trickulate this Christmas everybody. Never take my take my trick, my trick, you late this Christmas. I thought you guys were gonna help me age with grace. You were wrong. I don't think I'm wrong about this TUA thing, though, because if you allow me the starting point on 25 years of betrayal, Emotional fan base feels like it's being laughed at. Was the winningest franchise in sports. Dared to hope for a few minutes, and that player made them a national player for the first time in 25 years where people were talking about them nationally because they Were arguing about whether this could be. If that guy is the star of your team. You're telling me it's the same as. As Daniel Jones disappointing the Giants? You think it's the same thing?

[Chris Long]

I think it's the same. And I think, like, right now we're being hyperbolic. I think he goes away for two years and he's a welcome luminary and gets received warmly at Hard Rock Stadium for the things that he did on the field that were positive.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I don't agree with that.

[Chris Long]

Well, I. You're. You're representing one side of the spectrum as a journalist.

[Mike Ryan]

He's on the fan.

[Chris Long]

As a response. As a response.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I don't like the insinuation.

[Chris Long]

Yeah. But I. I think he'll be making appearances for the club and it'll be fine.

[Kayla Jones]

He was better than Tannehill and Tannehill would get. If Tannehill came back, he would get.

[Chris Long]

Two is going to get a warm reception. Yeah, Two is going to get a warm reception in a couple years.

[Jeremy]

By far the best quarterback I've ever watched play for the Dolphins, which is terrible.

[Mike Ryan]

No.

[Jeremy]

But I realized yesterday, like, my first connection to this show, just to show the mediocrity of the Dolphins for my entire lifetime, was Mike Ryan writing a song about Joey Hainos. It was sent in a group chat yesterday because they were talking about Darren Waller potentially playing quarterback instead of Quinn Ewers. Joey Hainos.

[Mike Ryan]

The fan base dared to care, and they're mad at him for it, and I don't blame them. And I think he speaks for it more than you do. I think that you don't care the way he does.

[Chris Long]

I definitely don't care. But I'm saying I don't care at all. I'm just a fly on the wall watching Dolphins fans, sports fans. I will say that I cared about Baker, the man, and I thought he was wronged. And because it was tied to the Deshaun Watson thing, I left my fandom, and I'm still a Baker guy.

[Matthew]

So, Jeremy, let me get this straight. You don't think Gus Farrat was killing. You don't remember when Gus Farot was on?

[Jeremy]

No. I mean, my first quarterback memory for the Dolphins is Jay Fiedler. He's still my favorite.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Love Jay Fiedler.

[Jeremy]

I like Cleo Lemon.

[Mike Ryan]

Jay Fiedler.

[Chris Long]

What quarterback has had a nice breakup with this market over the last 25 years? Like, I think Tua is leaving. Yes. It's loud now and people are pissed because it was a wasted season. A season of Expectations, which honestly, that's on them. Why would you expect this team to be good? You, you guys were the problem. This team was bad from the jump.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What do you think the correlation would be between me and Jeremy and Jay Fiedler?

[Jeremy]

Happy Janucca.

[Chris Long]

You all love Anthony Mason, Chad Henny.

[Mike Ryan]

I think that we have to do a fan spectrum, I think, because I do think Zads is on the fan spectrum, I think. And it's not a good way way. It's an unhealthy way. And I think he speaks for the fan base. Mike's detached look 20 years now, Insider, booster. You know, the things he cares about. Dolphins ain't one of them. So he's very comfortable telling you how Dolphin fans feel. And I would go to journalist Zaslow on that one because I'm telling you, there's nothing that gets more applause than him crushing everybody. And he comes after two awfully hard. He's rage filled and he's getting nothing but applause for it. Like there, there hasn't been a dissenter. Right, everyone, have you had one person say, hey, take it easy on him.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

99% have been on my side.

[Chris Long]

I didn't even tap into that for Jimmy Butler. And I love the Miami Heat, love them. But Kyle Lowry brought this out of me.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Me too. Hate him.

[Chris Long]

Terry Rozier brought this out of me. Very few athletes bring this out of me.

[Matthew]

So Matt Moore on Hard Knocks didn't do it for. You know what?

[Jeremy]

Matt Moore was great. I loved Matt Moore cuz he wasn't Chad Henney.

[Mike Ryan]

I think that the anger of 25 years, the resentment of the fan base. You underestimate both how attached they were to a star figure and what that hope did to them and how betrayed they feel by him being the face of that hope. You told me we had another Marina. You told me after I loved Jay Fiedler as my best choice in 25 years that I had a quarterback guts. Chris Long is saying, I'll get a tattoo of TUA on me if that's a good quarterback and that wins the Super Bowl. And we planned a trip to Las Vegas that cost this company half a million dollars because we thought the Dolphins were to the super bowl that year.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That really played a role in making that.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, they were 9 and 2 the.

[Jeremy]

Year they scored like 70.

[Mike Ryan]

They were 9 and 2 and then lost to Tennessee at home on a Monday night game. They were 9 and 2 led by.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

14 early in the fourth that game.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, it was our watch party.

[Matthew]

Watch party. Joey Harrington didn't do Anything for you.

[Jeremy]

Chad Pennington did go Ducks. Actually. Ronnie Brown playing quarterback is really the best quarterback player.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That was when we learned Ronnie Brown's lefty.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. That's the best quarterback play I have seen as a Miami Dolphin fan. Was Ronnie Brown running the wildcat?

[Chris Long]

Tony was saying Will Levis reminded him of Dan Marino.

[Jeremy]

Oh, yeah. Oh, Dan's loud. Wrong about Bo Nicks, by the way. He is Dan Marino.

[Mike Ryan]

I think you can put together 20. I'd like a top five. Top 25 list of best Dolphin moments. If you want to make the national audience laugh. Best moments over the last 25 years. Ronnie Brown at quarterback is like in.

[Chris Long]

Your top five easily wildcat game.

[Mike Ryan]

It's in your top five easily the last 75 years.

[Chris Long]

And the comeback against the Ravens.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, I think. And that's why Tua, by the way, is. Is the best we had because he's two of those top five memories.

[Quinn Ewers]

And the Kenyan Drake touchdown.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

The win against the Bills like three years ago. The home game, the Camarillo when Ken Dorsey crashed out Miracle in Miami.

[Kayla Jones]

Yeah, the Kenyon Drake I forgot about. Bron was the last line of defense.

[Jeremy]

I was on the sideline with Drew Rosenhaus at that moment.

[Chris Long]

I didn't remember it all that well because I was listening to that game on the radio. So I still don't know what. What happened.

[Kayla Jones]

Gronk last line of defense. That was great.

[Mike Ryan]

That was a good one, right? That was. Is that top five?

[Chris Long]

I think we got the top five. That was pretty good.

[Mike Ryan]

For sure.

[Chris Long]

There have been so few moments.

[Mike Ryan]

Zaslo was listening to that game on the radio and didn't know what was happening until the 10 yard line of.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

The Patriots gave me nothing until he got to the 10 yard line.

[Matthew]

Two words. Fitz Magic.

[Chris Long]

The throw against the Raiders.