Local Hour: The Wickedly Talented, One And Only, Adell

Summary

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Podcast Summary – The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Local Hour: The Wickedly Talented, One And Only, Adell
Date: April 6, 2026

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This episode, recorded from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, finds Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the crew at their freewheeling, irreverent best, diving deep into uniquely bizarre moments from the sports world—particularly two spectacular baseball plays—and examining the recent Miami Heat front office missteps. The show also says goodbye to the long-standing "Big Suey" segment, reflecting on its tangled history. Expect the usual mix of South Florida sports talk, playful banter, cultural references, and vintage Le Batard confusion.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Death of "Big Suey" and Segment Renaming

• Dan announces the retirement of the "Big Suey" moniker, transitioning instead to naming segments by hour (Local Hour, Hour One, etc.).
• Confusion ensues as the crew tries to make sense of what is now officially "Hour One," "Hour Two," and so forth.
• Origins of ‘Big Suey’:
  • Mike: Recalls it started as a retaliatory extra hour when ESPN cut the show (03:33).
  • Dan: Remembers it as "bspn," a joking feud with ESPN, but concedes Bill Simmons got there first (03:33–04:13).
  • Sui/Seuy Explained: Derived from Luther Campbell describing something as “suey,” meaning worse than sewage—eventually evolving into a montage for callers breaking show rules (30:28–31:41).
• Memorable sound montage: Various random soundbites used to cut callers off for pleasantries.

2. Baseball’s Wildest Weekend:

A. Extraordinary Home Run Robberies

• Dan is enthralled by a minor league (err, college) baseball play where a ball bounces off the centerfielder’s head for a home run, comparing its improbability to the famous Jose Canseco incident (04:54-07:07).
  • Quote: “The greatest play in baseball history has been supplanted by the play we’re just showing you right now… and it wasn’t the greatest play this weekend.” — Dan (07:07)
• Clip replayed: The ball hitting the centerfielder and going over the wall.
• Rules Debate: Crew debates whether it should be a ground rule double or a home run (07:59–08:12), leading to the memorable “forehead rule double” joke.
• Physics & Odds: Dan marvels at the near impossibility of such a play happening again (06:07–06:34).

B. Joe Adell’s Defensive Masterclass

• Dan heralds Angels outfielder Joe Adell’s game, in which he robbed 3 home runs, calling it:
  • “The best defensive thing I’ve ever seen at a sporting event” (34:56–35:10).
  • “Joe Adele just did something more memorable in an Angel’s uniform than Mike Trout or Albert Pujols ever did.” — Dan (41:04, again at 41:31)
• Zaz (playfully skeptical) questions the home run robbery rules, especially when Adell falls into the stands (35:58-38:18).
  • “You could just run into the stands 10 rows up, catch a ball? … He’s in the crowd. How is that a home run?” — Zaz (36:28)
• Tony, Mike, Dan: Patiently explain rules regarding establishing position, catching the ball in the air, and what counts as a homer or not.
• Pop Culture Crossover: References to "Major League 2" and the “Mandela Effect” about memory (38:18–39:19).

C. The Play's Rarity and Meaning

• Mike: “That park’s dimensions play to this... that short porch in right is unique.” (40:46)
• Tony: Draws comparison to random statistical outliers in sports (41:18–41:29).
• Crew: In awe at the increasing frequency of home run robberies, speculating on game changes.

3. South Florida’s Greatest Defensive Plays (09:01–10:23)

• Dan asks for the most iconic local defensive plays; nominees include Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas (NFL), Barkov (NHL), Pudge’s famous NLCS tag at the plate (MLB), and Bosh’s playoff blocks (NBA).
• Quote: “The greatest defensive play is Pudge: ‘I got the effing ball, right here!’” — Zaz (09:53–09:59)

4. The Jokic-Haslam Exchange & Personality

• Dan plays a clip of Nikola Jokic (with Dirk, Taylor Rooks, Haslam, and Blake Griffin), highlighting Jokic’s rare burst of personality after a big OT Nuggets win.
  • Jokic jokes about fouling in Miami, but repeatedly clarifies “I’m joking” seven times.
  • Quote: “Not against me.” — Udonis Haslam, with instant respect from all (16:58–17:03)
  • The show counts how many times “I’m joking” and “Big respect” are said for comedic effect.

5. Atlanta Announcer’s Classic Rant

• Steve Holman of the Hawks launches into an epic complaint against the Magic for “dirty rotten” play, uttering the phrase at least seven times (14:07–15:16).
  • Quote: “This is what they do. They are dirty rotten players. Every one of them on that team can’t take the losing.” — Steve Holman (14:07–15:16)
• Dan: “If you’re calling someone dirty rotten, are you over 70 years old?” (18:09)

6. Miami Heat’s Roster Mismanagement

The Nikola Jovic Contract Quandary

• Dan and crew lambast the Heat front office for giving Nikola Jovic a 4-year, $62 million contract despite minimal production (20:30–28:14).
  • Jovic averages 6 points/3 rebounds, rarely plays, was reportedly kept out of key trade talks (Durant, Lillard).
  • Zaz: “That's one of my big problems with the Heat, is the lacking foresight.” (22:19–23:17)
  • Mike: “These are wasted years.” (24:16)
  • Dan: “To give him four years, $62 million, is an announcement: ‘We know something the rest of you don't’... and clearly they did not know.” (26:09–27:13)
  • Tony: Draws parallels to shopping—Heat refuse to “let a deal hurt a little bit” to get what they want (28:45–29:09).
  • Dan: The contract extension “doesn’t even kick in until next season... brutal” (29:16–29:44)
  • Past regrets compared (Waiters, James Johnson, Whiteside contracts).

Organizational Philosophy

• The crew charges that the Heat are too rigid in trade talks (“never willing to let it hurt”) and risk falling into NBA purgatory—not rebuilding, not contending.

7. Classic Sui Montage (31:18–32:19)

• For context, “sui” originated from callers violating show etiquette, leading to a soundboard eruption.
• Humorous throwback to wild, random drops played as “punishment.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan, on Big Suey origin:
  • “We wanted it to just be BSPN... hiding in plain sight as we were feuding with ESPN.” (03:33)
• Steve Holman (Hawks announcer) rant:
  • “They are dirty rotten players.” (14:07–15:16)
• Dan (on Adele Dazeem):
  • “It's great. It's John Travolta at an awards ceremony... he’s not a good reader.” (10:59–11:05)
• Tony, on Heat trade strategy:
  • “You almost expect to pay a little more because it’s what you want... They're not willing to do that.” (28:45-29:09)
• Zaz, challenging baseball rules:
  • “I'm just saying, the ball's in the crowd.” (36:28)
• Dan, on Joe Adell’s feat:
  • “Joe Adele just did something more memorable in an Angels uniform than Mike Trout or Albert Pujols ever did.” (41:04)
• Tony, joking debate:
  • “Zaz is an idiot. He doesn’t like anything fun.” (42:35, 42:40)
• Dan, self-aware confusion:
  • “For those of you who are more confused than ever about what we’re doing…” (29:44)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:27] Announcement: End of “Big Suey”: segment renaming confusion begins.
• [03:33–04:13] The history and intended meaning of “Big Suey” and “BSPN.”
• [04:54–07:07] Discussion of the infamous “home run off the head” college baseball play.
• [07:07-08:18] Deep dive into ground rule vs. home run, “forehead rule double.”
• [09:51-10:23] Local defensive plays hall of fame: Barkov, Pudge, Bosh, etc.
• [10:34–10:59 / 11:20–11:25 / 41:46–42:06] “Wickedly talented, one and only Adele Dazeem” clip and running joke.
• [14:07–15:16] Steve Holman’s "dirty rotten" Hawks-Magic call.
• [16:58–17:43] Jokic-Haslam playful exchange, “I’m joking” repetition, “not against me.”
• [20:30-29:44] Heat’s Nikola Jovic contract and organizational missteps.
• [30:28–31:41] Sui montage/origin story for new listeners.
• [34:56–37:41] Joe Adell’s 3-homerun-robbing game debate & rules argument.
• [38:18–39:19] Pop culture/“Major League 2” reference, fuzzy sports memory.
• [41:04, 41:31] Dan repeats his “Joe Adele > Trout/Pujols” moment.
• [42:06–42:24] Jeremy bids in after long silence, Mike pushes for Adell defensive stardom.

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Recurring Tone and Spirit

• The show is chaotic, deeply inside-baseball, self-referential, and meta. Arguments and comic confusion are as much the point as any specific sports take.
• Playful antagonism is constant, with cast members ribbing each other for “not liking fun” or being “an idiot” about arcane rules.
• Deep localism: South Florida sports references abound, but the show is always tipped with humor, digression, and nostalgia.

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Takeaways for New Listeners

• The end of “Big Suey” marks a history-rich, inside joke segment now transitioning to a more prosaic naming scheme—but the chaos and in-jokes remain.
• Baseball rules debates and rare on-field feats (head homers, multi-homer-robbery) dominate the day’s giddy discussion, exemplifying the charm of Le Batard’s world: celebrate the absurd, deconstruct the epic, and always question authority—especially in sports front offices.
• The Miami Heat, once celebrated for their developmental savvy, are now targets for questions about contracts, asset management, and missed opportunities—a thread likely to continue throughout the season.

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Summary by Segment Order:

1. Farewell to “Big Suey”: origin stories, listener confusion, and inside jokes.
2. Baseball insanity: physics-defying home run plays, Adell’s outfield heroics.
3. South Florida sports defense heroes: Who’s the local GOAT?
4. Basketball: Jokic’s rare on-air joke, Heat’s current malaise and front-office woes.
5. Callbacks to classic show traditions and soundboards.
6. Endlessly looping debate on baseball’s “robbed home run” rules, with pop-culture riffs.
7. Show closes with jokes, rules clarification, and ever-present nostalgia.

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Transcript

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[Dan LeBatard]

Do any of you have any feelings, emotional or otherwise, in terms of attachment to the name the Big Suey? The hour of our program that is called the Big Suey? I don't know if anyone here knows the complicated history of the name the Big Suey, but we are changing it today. We are retiring the Big Suey and it is going to become simply the cleverly named our one.

[Zaz]

Oh, that's good.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's gonna become hour one.

[Tony]

Wait a second. Hour one is hour one.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, now hour one is gonna be hour two.

[Tony]

What's hour two named?

[Mike]

No, technically, hour one is a local hour. That's the first hour we do.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, no, the local hour is the local hour. That's the first hour. Then there's hour one, which is the second hour.

[Zaz]

So hour one used to really be hour two.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hour one.

[Tony]

Hour one used to be hour three.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hour one has always been hour three since the Big Sui was in place. But now we're getting rid of the Big Suey. It is retiring. Do any of you have an emotional attachment to the name Big Suey? Because I'm curious whether Mike even remembers what the backstory was on what we were trying.

[Mike]

Why wouldn't I remember the backstory? I was in the middle of that night.

[Dan LeBatard]

Do you remember?

[Mike]

Yes, I remember. That whole nightmare.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, you want to tell people what we were trying to do?

[Mike]

Yeah. ESPN took an hour. There was, like, the middle of the end with us at espn. And this is when they kept doing things. They kept doing things that felt like it was just like shot after shot. Like, they. They took us off of ESPN2 or ESPN News, and they put us behind the paywall. And then they decided to remove an hour from our national show. And we didn't want to remove an hour from our show or our audience. So we decided to, in the wake of their decision to remove an hour from our show, do an entirely additional hour, which is something we had already done with the local hour. The local hour was ripped away from us on 7 90, and those partners didn't keep us in the loop. So we had already flirted with the concept of doing an additional digital hour just for our audience, and we said, let's just keep it going. So we devised the Big Sui.

[Dan LeBatard]

Mike is giving you a whole bunch of context. That isn't any of what I was thinking of. And it's also not anything I knew. I don't remember any of that. I remember that we named it the Big Suey because we eventually wanted. Wanted it to just be the initials bspn. And we wanted. We wanted to just be hiding in plain sight as we were feuding with espn. And all I remember was that the name was going to be bspn. But then I was told long after we created the imaging and everything else for. For that, oh, Bill Simmons has already done that because his initials are B.S.

[Mike]

yeah, we told Dan that pretty early, but he was still on this BSBN train. And we're like, you're just going to have to settle for it being bs.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. And it was. It was all bs. And now it's retired, and now just. I'm glad we clarified.

[Mike]

I taught you something.

[Dan LeBatard]

Now it's our one. Okay, so it's local hours, not hour one. That's the local hour. Yeah.

[Mike]

That is so funny that all you remember is espn, because you were like a dog with a bone on that. That's all you wanted. Meanwhile, I'm just, like, in the foxhole, like, giving way too much information.

[Zaz]

So hour one is local hour, hour two is hour one.

[Tony]

No, no, no. Local hour is local hour. Hour one is the new Big Sui Sui.

[Dan LeBatard]

Nice.

[Roy]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Have a bit of an odd problem on my hand for my hands for this time of year in April, which is. We've Got way too much to get to today. There is too much video, too much audio. We've got a women's championship being decided over the weekend. Two of the most famous coaches not even involved in the championship almost got into a fight in which Dawn Staley was threatening to kick Gino Auriemma's ass. We've got the national championship on the men's side being decided today. We have from minor league baseball something that has supplanted what I believe to be the best play in baseball history. I maintain that the greatest play in the history of baseball is a home run going off of the head of Jose Canseco. I think the mathematical odds of that kind of clumsiness have any precedent to that point in the history of either baseball or video for that to be the player who. That happened to a. A fly ball that shouldn't have even been a double becoming a home run because it hit him on the top of the head, I thought was the greatest play in baseball history. But now we have another here. Is this minor league baseball or college baseball?

[Mike]

Baseball.

[Dan LeBatard]

So this is college baseball. This is 10ft in front of the warning track. 10ft in front of the warning track. It seems like the ball hits the center fielder in the forehead and goes over the wall. That seems as. As a physics experiment. That seems impossible. And if they tried to do that, if they went out there and attempted to do that again, they could try it for the rest of the time and it would never happen that way again.

[Mike]

This is actually a treat for the audio audience because the play by play does work.

[Tony]

Hit it to right center field.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's going to hang up and it is off the head of the center fielder. That's going to be a ground rule double. No, it's a. It's a home run for today.

[Mike]

Vias.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh my.

[Tony]

It hit the head of the center fielder.

[Dan LeBatard]

How good? So far it went over the wall in Rice center field. And the umpire, I thought he was going to call it a ground rule double.

[Tony]

He indicates home run.

[Dan LeBatard]

So I need to do this again just so that people understand what happened here, because it wasn't even the best play in baseball this weekend. I'm going to get to that in a second. So just to clarify, the greatest play in baseball history has been supplanted by the play we're just showing you right now, and it wasn't the greatest play this weekend. Okay, but in the play by play that you guys just heard, because you heard it correctly, if you weren't watching the video, the center fielder in center field on a routine fly ball to center field. The ball goes over the fence in right center field.

[Zaz]

It's not a small wall.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's. He's in center field and the ball goes over. It's impossible for a ball to. To hit like that. That has to hurt so much. And no one feels better than the guy who hit a routine fly out to center field. And now he's jogging around the bases because the umpire is giving him the home run call.

[Zaz]

I'm sorry, why is that a home run? The play by play guys. Right. How is that not a ground rule double? It hits something.

[Dan LeBatard]

Didn't hit the ground. The thing was at the ground. It can't be a ground rule double if it doesn't hit the ground.

[Zaz]

It hits something in the field of play. Not the ground, not a player. Rule double. I don't.

[Dan LeBatard]

Forehead rule double.

[Tony]

You don't know the rules. That's just.

[Zaz]

I don't like it. I don't like it.

[Dan LeBatard]

But before I go any further on this, because I really can't believe what happened in an Anaheim Angels game. And I've been telling you guys for years. Do you not think it is weird that every damn week there's an outfielder stealing a home run in the big leagues? Every, every single week in the big leagues for several years now, somebody's reaching over the fence and stealing a home.

[Mike]

This isn't exactly San Diego Chargers zone, but they have been the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim for 15 years.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, thank you for that. But if it happens to the Angels, I believe it gets to us 15 years late. I believe people aren't celebrating what it is that we just saw this weekend.

[Zaz]

Remember, they used to be the California Angels.

[Mike]

I should bring that back, Jack.

[Tony]

Nah, I don't remember that whole state.

[Dan LeBatard]

California Angels put it on the poll at LeBatard show. If it happened to the Angels, does it take 15 years to get to the rest of us? But I want to talk about Joe Adell because I'm trying to think in the history of sports what anyone regards as the greatest defensive thing they've ever seen locally in town. The greatest defensive players we have had are Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas. Perhaps you think of Alex Gonzalez, Bowen or Hasan Whiteside. Well, triple, triple doubles with blocks would, would qualify. Alonzo. Yeah, Alonzo. Morning. Who do you think of when you think of defensive play?

[Mike]

Because it's Barkov.

[Zaz]

I mean, I think the greatest defensive play is Pudge. I got the F and ball. Right.

[Mike]

That's a great shout.

[Zaz]

That's the greatest defensive play in Miami sports history. I have the effing ball right here.

[Mike]

I mean, Bosh had a big block in the playoffs, but best offensive player has to be Barkov. That's the first ballot.

[Dan LeBatard]

More so than Bobrovsky because.

[Mike]

Yes, yes, yes. Because Bobrovsky, during his time with the Panthers was never considered the best doing.

[Zaz]

That's fair.

[Jeremy]

That's fair.

[Mike]

Barkov. You ask anybody up and down, this is the best defensive center.

[Dan LeBatard]

And so defensively it is hard to celebrate things, but Joe Adele. And please, this reminds me, it's been 11 years since this magical clip right here.

[Mike]

Please welcome the wickedly talented, one and only Adele Dazeem.

[Tony]

It's been that long? 11 years.

[Mike]

Not as long as the Angels have been the Los Angeles Angels.

[Zaz]

They used to be California.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

What was he trying to say? Idina Manziel is what he was trying to say. Play that.

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[Dan LeBatard]

Play that again. Play that again.

[Mike]

Please, please welcome the wickedly talented, one and only Adele Dazeem.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's great. It's John Travolt at an awards ceremony being handed a card that spells phonetically and he's not a good reader.

[Mike]

You're gonna love this, Stan. This is a rough look for me. In 2016, they dropped the of Anaheim.

[Dan LeBatard]

Give me now the shortened version so I could properly celebrate Joe Adele of the Anaheim Angels of Anaheim, Please welcome

[Mike]

the wickedly talented, one and only Adele.

[Dan LeBatard]

It is amazing that he stole three home runs and the last one he ends up in the right field bleachers because he fell over the entirety of the wall. Jeremy's on vocal rest because he threw out his voice this weekend with all the broadcasting, he. And he wants to save it for tomorrow's livestream. But quickly, Jeremy, because I don't know the answer to this question. That was not the final out of the ninth inning. Correct? That was earlier in the ninth inning. Correct. Thank you. If that's the only word you say today, it'll be your most efficient show ever. And I'm here for it again tomorrow, we're going to do a livestream at 6:30. This is a little bit inexplicable. We have to plan these things well in advance. So because the Panthers are out of the playoffs after losing by a combined score of 7,000 to 3 this weekend against the Pittsburgh Penguins, they've been eliminated. So we're going to be watching a Panthers game. The Heat have not been eliminated. They are the 10 seed, but they've got two games against Toronto.

[Tony]

But we hope they are eliminated on

[Dan LeBatard]

the Road and they got a game against Atlanta so they're unlikely to be in anything other than the play in game. And also we're going to be watching the first place Marlins. That's tomorrow at 6:30pm and we're just going to be doing random shenanigans, watching whatever it is that's going on in sports. But what are you guys expecting from the Heat these last five games? If SPO and BAM and all of them are right with we're better than this, we're better than this. The next five games would be a good time to prove it against Atlanta in Toronto. Next four games, excuse me, not against Washington anymore. You got two at Toronto says and one against Atlanta. What are you expecting? Because I'm expecting them to go 1 and 2 at best in those three games.

[Zaz]

My guess is they'll split the games in Toronto and and they could very well lose the last game to Atlanta because the Hawks could need that game. Like the Hawks right now are fifth. They're going to want to stave off number six. They're two up on Philly. So that's up in the air whether or not the Hawks are going to actually need that game. And the Hawks never lose anymore. My guess is that they, they go two and two in these final I'm

[Dan LeBatard]

at a real loss for how it is that they've dropped to 11th in defensive rating. I they, they've been terrible for about six weeks and partially because they're playing, but they're better than this defensively or they have been for the first 60 games of the season. Then all of a sudden they're not. But I want to play Atlanta announcer Steve Holman. I know you guys did some of this Friday, but I didn't think that we'd have a clip ever that rivaled Steve Holman getting mad at the heat 20 years ago and saying the Heat have resorted to thuggery. But I am told that against the Magic we have Steve Holman, the same announcer 20 years later, still bringing it in the lane.

[Zaz]

Get it knocked away.

[Jeremy]

But it goes right to Jonathan Kaminga. Now to Jock, who goes up and got fouled. Jock Landale just got knocked down. A terrible dirty play by the Orlando Magic. This is what they do. They just knocked down Jock Landale and hurt him badly. Oh my goodness. Somebody should get thrown out of this game. What a dirty rotten team this Orlando Magic is. Oh my goodness gracious. Jack Landale got knocked down hard. Dyson Daniels wanted to go over and help him. Pray to God that Jack Landale is not hurt badly, folks. That was a dirty rotten play by Orlando. I don't care what anybody says or anybody replays on this one. This is a dirty rotten team. They get down by 30 points and this is what they do. They are dirty rotten players. Every one of them on that team can't take the losing. The Hawks are going to be four. And oh, against this team, they whine and complain on everything and then they go to dirty rotten tactics. But that he has no business even being in the league. Go, go. But Dozzi should be thrown out of the game. Thrown out of the league for a play like that. He is a no talent dirty rotten player. They're going to come over. Look at this. They better throw him out on a flagrant, too. There's no doubt that this should be a flagrant 2. If they call anything else, it's the

[Dan LeBatard]

prior fails in our view for a potential flagrant foul.

[Jeremy]

No kidding. Thank you very much, Ed Malloy. Mr.

[Zaz]

Obvious Chocolate, walked off in his own power.

[Dan LeBatard]

How many times did he call things dirty rotten?

[Zaz]

7.

[Dan LeBatard]

You guys were counting?

[Zaz]

Yeah.

[Roy]

Okay.

[Jeremy]

Dirty rotten team. This Orlando Magic is.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right. So I've got something that was repeated seven times this weekend from basketball as well. And it is. I was laughing because it is rare for Jokic to show this much personality. Okay. He's being interviewed by Dirk Nowitzki and Taylor Rooks and Yudanis Haslam and Blake Griffin. And they've just won. And it was a great game. God almighty. That game against San Antonio. Jokic has gone for 43 times against Wemby. He calls Wemby the most unique player in the league, but he knows how to bump him and get him out of the way. And he's gone for 43 times against the best defensive player in the sport. And Jokic wins in overtime. And he's got the trophy over his left shoulder from when they beat the Heat and Jimmy Butler in five games. While talking to you, Donis, and in all of this, I want you to not only hear the Jokic joke, which is funny, directed at you, done is Haslam, but how immediately he takes it back by saying that he was joking a full seven times. This is true. This is true. We did foul a little bit in Miami. I mean, yeah, you all win. Yeah, we. We see the position. Yeah, we see the background. I got three of them things. Now be careful. Hey, I got three of them things. Now be careful, Big dog.

[Mike]

Not against me.

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't have to go. You're right. You're Right, Right.

[Zaz]

Big respect.

[Dan LeBatard]

And big respect. Seven out. Three. Three.

[Tony]

Big respect.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right. But that is though, that. That line, if you can cut up for me, I'd like you to play the whole thing again. But Jokic saying that, that's a movie poster. Not against me. The way that he delivered that with that accent has some mercenary assassin in it. That's true. This is true a little bit. In Miami, I mean. Yeah, you all went. Yeah, we see the position. We see the background. Three of them things. Now be careful. Hey, I got three of them things. Now be careful, Big Dog.

[Mike]

Not against me.

[Jeremy]

Joking.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're joking. I'm joking.

[Jeremy]

I'm joking.

[Mike]

I'm joking.

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't have the gun.

[Tony]

You're right.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're right. Big respect.

[Jeremy]

Big respect.

[Tony]

I counted four on the redo of Big respects.

[Dan LeBatard]

Six.

[Zaz]

I'm joking.

[Jeremy]

Four.

[Zaz]

Big respects.

[Dan LeBatard]

Seven. Seven. I'm joking. Four Big respects. Not against me. I did have the guard.

[Tony]

You're right.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Jeremy]

He is a no talent dirty rotten player.

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[Mike]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Don LeBatard teammates can't shoot from three now they're gonna see a different Jimmy now he's just, just playing nickel back in the locker room. And Stugats now play D and show threes as they ch. That's for the six seed. These five words in his head scream are we winning games yet? This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. Speaking of basketball and the Miami Heat. I want Zaz's opinion and everyone's opinion here as the Heat try to make this season interesting when I tell you that Nikola Jovic since 2025, November 10th of 2025 is averaging 6 points and 3 rebounds on 34% shooting and that they gave him a 4 year $62 million contract and that they kept him out of the Durant trade talks. Is there anyone that can explain that, never mind defend it? It can't be defended. There's no circumstance under which you can defend it. But how do you explain it?

[Zaz]

Well, Nikola's defense is that they've changed their style of play and it doesn't fit him and he has a hard time with. That's, that's his defense that he mentioned because he finally got to play the other night, you know, against Washington cuz the Heat were up by a thousand and he mentioned that that's why this has been such a big struggle. But I know Mike and Amin, like you guys really got into it last week when I was away also and one of the things that I would certainly agree with you about Mike with the Heat over these last few years is they they've lacked foresight and one of those examples would be Nico Jovic, you know, where. Not just the four years, $60 million, and he literally never plays, but it's quite possible that they held him out of offering him for Kevin Durant, you know, and, like, are we going to have this conversation? I don't think we are, but are we going to have this conversation again in a couple of years from now where they wouldn't include Keller Ware in whatever, you know, trade X and maybe he turns into nothing again? I don't think that's going to be the case. But they were holding back Jovic, and they don't even play him. And so that is one of my big problems with the Heat is the lacking force. And it's, hey, you should have traded Norman Powell at the trade deadline, okay? Because there's no way you're keeping Hero and Powell next season. That's dumb. Like. Like, why didn't you know that Hero and Powell are completely redundant skill sets that they're not going to work together. It's stuff like this that I don't understand why they haven't had the foresight to maybe see some of these things.

[Mike]

They just missed the mark. Like, I mean, did the whole thing. Like, you don't know what was available to them. They decided that they were going to keep riding with what they had. They decided against being Sellers. There's always a deal to be made. They have guys on their roster. Are we to believe that they have the league's most undesirable roster? Because if there were no deals available to them, it's even more of a failure than we were, even hypothetically.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's keep it on this one, though. Just on this particular one, it's catastrophic.

[Mike]

It's a terrible. It's a terrible contract. Now, when we were all kind of nervous about it, but we're like, well, if he. If he progresses the way that their development team thinks, and it's actually not

[Zaz]

about the case with Lillard, too. Right. Like, I don't think they wanted to include him in a potential Lillard deal. It's like they never play him.

[Mike]

Yeah. From where I'm sitting, keeping guys like where and Jovich out of these deals doesn't really make sense to me. But they seem to like them, which is, you know, a strong disagreement that I have, and they find themselves in the plane again.

[Dan LeBatard]

You strenuously object.

[Mike]

These are nothing years. These are wasted years.

[Tony]

I think the part that's upsetting is that you have this great developmental team within the Miami Heat that gets these diamonds out of nowhere. But then they go on and just don't really get anything for them. They leave and they go sign big contracts somewhere else. But there's no really real return. Like with Jovic, it felt like people in the league saw around like, oh, wait a second, like there's something there. If you can mold him in the right way, that's a good player for the next maybe seven to eight, nine, 10 years. And now it's like, how do you take on a guy who's taking, who's making what never plays $45 million, you know, for the next 60 years after this year, he'll make 45 in the next couple, you know, two, three years.

[Mike]

Excellent point. It's an excellent point by, by Tony in that they do develop these guys. They develop them to the place in the marketplace where Gabe Vincent goes and signs a huge contract, leaves for nothing. But yeah, you either. The only times it ever goes, either the Heat signed them to a big inflated deal or they or someone else says, and again, they don't add to their assets, which the thing with this franchise over the last few years is that they've obviously whiffed on a lot of trades. And the argument always is, well, they don't have enough assets. They don't have enough assets because they keep some of the more desirable ones off the table when it comes to trade talks or like this season, they don't do anything to add to it to them.

[Zaz]

That's one of the things that has also bothered me over the recent years with the heats when it comes to trying to make trades and what they're willing to give up. And this, this is also very much their MO when it comes to signing players in free agency where they attach a value to a player when they're looking to trade. And it's like, this is what we're willing to go willing to give up. We're not going to go over this, all right? You're not going to bully us into making the trade. We are good with this trade, but this is the price. And it's like they're never willing to pay a little bit extra to get the deal done. They're never willing to let it hurt a little bit to get the deal done.

[Dan LeBatard]

Can I keep you on this one contract? I understand the overall frustration that you have about a lack of foresight. They decided to pay this person when they and only they knew they were going to go up tempo offense. They came out of the box and surprised us. We did not know that they were going to play with the fastest rate of speed the league. Now, Yovich himself says in a quote, we're trying a lot of stuff. Last four years, we're basically the same team with the same record, and I guess they've tried different things. Some stuff suits you better, some stuff doesn't. I have to make it work to give him four years. $62 million is an announcement. We know something the rest of you don't. What did you know? What did you see? You have more information than us. You knew what you were going to do with your offense. You could tell whether he would fit or not. And at this time, you could have gotten in trade talks with Durant, with this player, because you knew more than anybody that he wasn't going. Or you should have known more than anybody that he wasn't going to work in what you were doing offensively. But clearly they did not know. And how is that possible?

[Tony]

If I could be a precise translator for Jeremy today, who was on vocal rest, they thought that they, when they instituted this offense, this would be a good thing for Jovic, and it hasn't turned out to be.

[Dan LeBatard]

How can you miss that?

[Tony]

A big miss.

[Zaz]

Very bad.

[Dan LeBatard]

But how, when you have all the information, you're in charge of the money, you. You know more than us in every single way. How can this player not be a player who can get on the court for you, that you're giving $62 million when you're not giving much of anybody

[Tony]

money and Simone Fontechio is playing more than Nikola Jovic? It doesn't make sense.

[Dan LeBatard]

So that's it. We're going to. We're going to say $62 million doesn't make sense. We're just going to say that is an act of stupidity. That is. That. That, like, give me what they've done worse than that. For all your complaints about all the things that they haven't gotten and Amin's complaints on the other end, you don't know what they could have been offered. Well, I know that this was available to them, and I know that they had more information than we did on every single thing. And I know they decided this was a good player and this has not been a good player.

[Mike]

Yeah, this fits at waiters, James Johnson, Whiteside type of mold and regrettable contracts. They're ice cold right now just as a front office and as a franchise. They're in one of the worst spots you could be, which is not in the lottery and not a threat in the playoffs. They're not adding to their assets to kind of get out of it. And we're just hoping that for the fifth consecutive year, the moon, the pie in the sky moonshot scenario of getting a whale finally works out for them with what they have to.

[Tony]

Zaz's point, like, whenever you go buy anything, you almost. You go in with the. With the expectation of like, I'm gonna play a little bit more because it's what I want, right?

[Zaz]

They're not willing.

[Tony]

They're not willing to do that. If you go to a car dealership, you're like, hey, I really want this car. And the guy's like, it's Gonna cost you 2500 extra.

[Zaz]

And you're like, it has to be on their terms.

[Tony]

And that's the problem. Nobody's gonna play that game with you. You could have packaged Norm Powell and Yovich to the deadline and give it to a contender and somebody would have paid something.

[Zaz]

It's like it's okay for the deal to hurt a little bit for you to get what you want, and they're never willing to allow it to hurt a little bit.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, but this is going to hurt you guys more than a little bit because I haven't even given you the worst part of this, because it gets worse. His extension, $62 million extension, doesn't kick in until next season, Right? So he's under contract through the end of the decade, longer than any other Heat player is under contract. That's brutal.

[Zaz]

Right? They've been not playing him while he doesn't make any money next year.

[Tony]

I thought it was year that he signed it.

[Zaz]

No, it's next year.

[Dan LeBatard]

That is brutal. Chris Cody has spent the last 40 minutes looking for a sound that will allow us to properly retire the Big Suey as a name. For those of you who are more confused than ever about what we're doing, the second hour of our daily show has been called the Big Suey for a long time. I'm gonna guess about eight years. We're now going to change it to simply our one. So it's not hour one, cuz the local hour is the first hour, but it's gonna be local hour, hour one, hour two, hour three. And for those of you who do not know or don't have any of this history. Okay. Do you know what the word suey means and the origins of sui on this show?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. You know, because I'm assuming a lot of people do not know that. Luther Campbell of two Life Crew one time came on here and he was reviewing a Kobe Bryant rap song. Suey that's what he called it. He just said, it's sewage. It's worse than sewage. It's worse than hot garbage. It's suey. So later on, when we were taking calls from car phones and landlines, we had a rule of no pleasantries on the show. You cannot start the call with, hey, hello. What's going on? We just wanted you to get to whatever it is your point was? And anybody who did start with a pleasantry got hit with the sui guillotine, which was just an assortment of random sounds. So I want you to imagine somebody calls in, hey, how you doing, guys? And we just hit them immediately with something like this. So it's me versus you.

[Zaz]

My mom, my dad's in town. Can I. Can I offer him an invitation?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yarn. And I don't wish that girl any bad luck, but I hope she gets hit with a car. He's got aids. No. Ed Malloy.

[Zaz]

I Love Selling Blood.

[Mike]

Time capsule.

[Zaz]

That's a good song.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think that that was the best sui montage, but it's.

[Tony]

That was long. So a guy would call in, and for. For him to. Not. You would hit him with that, which was wrong, but.

[Dan LeBatard]

But entertaining. See, it's not. It's. It's not. Hey, how you doing? It's this. So it's me versus you.

[Zaz]

My mom, my dad's in town. Can I. Can I offer him an invitation?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yarn. And I don't wish that girl any bad luck, but I hope she gets hit with a car. He's got aids. Go ahead, Malloy. I love selling blood. That was Tommy Lorda Love Selling Blow. Yes. Yeah. That was a rap song by Tommy Lasorda that. Yeah. He loves selling Blow. You didn't know that?

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[Dan LeBatard]

Meal and Hunt Tricks Meal have just dropped at McDonald's. They're calling this a battle for the fans. What do you say to that, Rumi?

[Zaz]

It's not a battle.

[Dan LeBatard]

So glad the Saja boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.

[Zaz]

It is an honor to share.

[Tony]

No, it's our honor.

[Dan LeBatard]

It is our larger honor.

[Zaz]

No, really, stop.

[Dan LeBatard]

You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side

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[Zaz]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Stugats is this Chum Bucket. This is the Dan lebatar show with the Stugats. I want to get back to Joe Adele for a second because I just can't believe that this happened. Do any of you find as fascinating as I do? Because it cannot be covered enough. It cannot be a. To me, it could not be a sports story that gets covered by the mainstream media sufficiently to say that in a single game, a guy reached a shot of out a one nothing game, a guy reached over the fence three times to steal home runs and on the third one in the ninth inning ended up fully in the right field bleachers in one of the coolest photographs you will ever see. Given the historic nature of the moment, and I'm willing to say it's the best defensive thing I've ever seen at a sporting event that, that three. I just can't imagine the mathematical odds against being able to steal three home runs in a single. And I don't know, all of them were clean. All of them were great. All of them were him reaching over the fence and the last of them was the best of them and the most important of them.

[Zaz]

There are. There are a few things that make all of it so cool. Like when you're, when you're growing up and you're playing baseball, we all would. Would fantasize about stealing a home run. It's one of the coolest things you could possibly do do. Not only did he do it three times in at game, all three of them were legit. Robbing home runs. Like Aaron Judge I think on Saturday took away, you know, a home run from one of the Marlins here, but not really. Like he just kind of stuck his arm up and Like, I don't even know if would have cleared the wall.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's also a giant.

[Tony]

So, okay, he's also massive with like a 9 foot, you know, 8 wings fan.

[Zaz]

But all of these would have been home runs. And of course, it was a one nothing game. Now, I don't want to be this guy, Dan. All right? But the third one, which is the coolest, do this.

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[Zaz]

And it's on the short porch in right field. And he falls.

[Tony]

Let him cook.

[Zaz]

How is that a home run? The ball is in the stands. The ball's in the stands. How is it not a home run? He catches it, but he's in the crowd. You're telling me you could just run into the stands 10 rows up, catch a ball. Oh, no, it's out. It's not a home run. Cause I caught it. He's in the crowd. How is that a home run? Not a home run? I'm just saying the ball's in the crowd.

[Tony]

Do you have eyes? Because he jumps from the field of play, out of the field of play while the ball is still in the

[Zaz]

air, catches it, and everyone lands in home run territory.

[Mike]

So he should have taken it out of his glove, thrown it back into the field of play and just made it a double.

[Zaz]

If a ball lands in the crowd over the wall, it didn't land.

[Mike]

It didn't land in the ground.

[Tony]

He caught it.

[Zaz]

Of course it did. They all landed in his glo than in his glove. But he is in the crowd.

[Tony]

He jumped out. He hasn't landed yet, Right. What you're not understanding is that he jumps the Allen in the air as

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[Tony]

Exactly. He hasn't landed yet, right? So if he lands and then catches it, yeah, it's a home run.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think the part you're not understanding, Zaz, is that for it to be a home run, it has to hit beyond play. The ball has to land somewhere beyond the fence. It can hit. Hit. If it. If it hits over the fence and falls behind the fence or even there. There are times, right? There are. There are markings in the big leagues that something could hit a facade, end up back on the field. But because it's gone over the fence, it's a home run. But the place it hits beyond the fence can't be a glove, right? But it can be anything but a glove if it hits anything but. Well, I suppose he could catch it in his hat as well.

[Mike]

He could.

[Tony]

Bare hand, too.

[Mike]

We saw that in only their own what if he jumps over the fence and then establishes himself?

[Zaz]

That's what I'm saying.

[Tony]

You can't establish yourself. No, that's in the air.

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[Mike]

When you no way back into right field, he hops over the fence, builds up momentum and runs, leaps, lands in the field of play.

[Zaz]

You have to bring the ball back into the field to play. That's, that's robbing a home run. Run. That ball is over the fence.

[Roy]

Whatever. He stands on top of the fence and catches the ball.

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[Dan LeBatard]

That was Major League 2. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. I'd have to look this up. I'm going to try and look it up during the break. I'm pretty sure. In a Japanese baseball game one time there is a famous video clip of a guy standing on top of the wall.

[Mike]

And again, that's Major League two.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I know, I know.

[Zaz]

Japanese player.

[Dan LeBatard]

He was in Cleveland. Oh, guys.

[Zaz]

They traded Parkman for him. Yeah, Marbles.

[Dan LeBatard]

He had the audacity to challenge Serrano and nobody did that. That was before the life insurance commercials. That's when Serrano was menacing.

[Zaz]

He named wild things pitch the master hands.

[Dan LeBatard]

I am not confusing. He had good hands. I am not confusing the Japanese player in Major League 2 with a real home run. In Japanese baseball it also. No, no, not me.

[Mike]

There is a chance and you're like low key afraid of it.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I'm no sweating. I'm going to.

[Tony]

We can't trust our memories, Dan. Do you know that?

[Mike]

Did you know that this could be a Mandela effect?

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm telling you that before I saw it In Major League 2, I had seen it in Japanese baseball. But I'm going to look it up during the break to prove myself to you guys. Now you may remember, you may not remember that last year during the first half of a Vikings football game, speaking of defensive things, Isaiah Rogers had both like a 66 yard fumble return touchdown and like an 87 yard pick six in the first half of a game against the Bengals. And when that happened, I'm like, that's. That's probably one of the best defensive halves anybody's ever had. The mathematical odds against Joe Adelling catching three home run balls in a single game, when the most home run robberies by a single player in the entire season last year was four for the entire season. And it's only because the home runs are getting robbed more than they ever have. Can someone please explain to me what's happening there? How is it possible? Is it because baseball players are better athletes? Is it because they're all trying to hit home runs? But how is it possible that I would go an entire Marlin season without watching anybody get a home run stolen? And now all of a sudden, every single week, it's happening with somebody in baseball, and now it's happening three times in a single game.

[Mike]

I mean, it should be noted that that park's dimensions play to this. What was that? They played to this. Like, that short porch in right is pretty unique.

[Zaz]

But at least that was just one of the three, you know, Otherwise he's not two.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, the other two weren't over there. The other two were closer to right?

[Zaz]

So two.

[Dan LeBatard]

It wasn't that' where the other two were. Again, Joe Adele is his name. And he just did something more memorable in an Angels game than Albert Pujols or Mike Trout ever did.

[Tony]

I mean, it's an outlier though, right? Like, you're looking at something that. That rarely happens.

[Zaz]

I think it's completely random.

[Tony]

It's the BAM 83 point game. Like, why aren't people scoring more? It's like, well, we had this random guy do it. He had three. Three stolen home run plays.

[Zaz]

I think it's a weird random base.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm going to say it again. Joe Adele just did something more memorable in an Angel's unif than Mike Trout or Albert Pujols ever did.

[Mike]

The wickedly talented one and only.

[Dan LeBatard]

I want to go back to that original clip because you can't play John Travolta enough. He's trying to say Idina Manziel. He has a card in front of him that spells it phonetically. He panics and decides to do it with a flourish. And it's a terrible idea.

[Mike]

Please welcome the wickedly talented one and only. Only at the other.

[Zaz]

Do you think when he walked off the stage, you just think yourself? All right. I don't think anyone noticed.

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[Dan LeBatard]

Jeremy, don't waste too much of your voice. Pick your spot here. We've been talking for 40 minutes without your help here, so pick your spot on anything that was said in the last 40 minutes that you'd like to either counter or address.

[Mike]

Adele is one of the best outfielders in Major League baseball. Defensively got emotional.

[Dan LeBatard]

You guys are stupid. What do you mean we're stupid?

[Tony]

Not you, Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm trying to celebrate something that.

[Tony]

As you should. Zaz is an idiot.

[Mike]

He doesn't like anything fun.

[Zaz]

Just trying to get a clarification of the rules.

[Tony]

You're an idiot. Ball off a player or his glove

[Dan LeBatard]

goes over the fence. That's a home run. Guy catches the ball to out.

[Zaz]

I'm telling you, I think the one that was ruled a home run should not be a home run run. And the one that was not a home run should be.

[Mike]

Because you hate things.

[Dan LeBatard]

None of them were home runs. What are you talking.

[Zaz]

Well, the one that went up the kid's head.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, the one.

[Zaz]

But I don't think it should have been.

[Tony]

Oh, I see what you're doing now. He got tremendous after that, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, for sure.

[Tony]

It started growing almost immediately. You know when you. You hit your head and you get that, you chong. And you're like, oh, my God, I

[Dan LeBatard]

cannot believe I woke up this morning with a bowling pin.

[Zaz]

It was like in Looney Tunes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Like, he was. He was 20ft from the warning track. Like, it doesn't seem physically possible. That ball. If I just said he was a riddle. Hey, the center fielder, 20ft from the warning track, got in the forehead. Is there any way that it goes over the fence behind him? For home run knows the answer to that.