Local Hour: The Yankee Clipper

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Local Hour: The Yankee Clipper

Date: December 4, 2025
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Mike Ryan, Tony, Jeremy, Zaslow

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Main Theme & Purpose

Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, the Local Hour delivers the signature blend of sports talk, South Florida flavor, and improvisational comedy that defines The Dan Le Batard Show. In this episode, the crew debates NBA player loyalty and superstar movement, spotlights the unique culture around the Miami Heat, relives Miami sports nostalgia, and dives into the ongoing saga of player empowerment and front office drama in basketball. Interspersed are running jokes, editorial riffs, and a comical debate over the phrase “took the Buck’s hole” versus “Buck’s soul”—a quintessential moment in the show’s audio-driven humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. South Florida Sports Scene & In-Studio Banter (01:28–04:07)

• The show opens with light, in-studio ribbing—including Tony’s description of a “sad bucket of bagels” and office observations.
• They riff on Heat predictions and the accountability of sports takes, emphasizing that “putting it on wax” matters for credibility (02:36).

Quote:
"Zazzle can't do the thing of 'I knew that was gonna happen.' When you have three hours the day before on the air. And you never said that was gonna happen." – Tony (01:28)

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2. Cooper Flagg’s Age and NBA Readiness (03:10–04:32)

• Debate on whether the young phenom Cooper Flagg, still only 18, is physically and mentally ready for NBA-level play.
• Jeremy marvels at Flagg's basketball IQ at such a young age.

Quote:
"He turns 19, I audibly gasped. That doesn't happen often watching a game." – Jeremy (03:22)
"I have never encountered someone who's 18 years old that I say, yes, of course he could play against... the Rudy Goberts in that league." – Zaslow (03:33)

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3. Heat’s Surprising Defensive Efficacy and Roster Moves (04:32–05:33)

• Discussion shifts to the Miami Heat’s uncharacteristically high pace and elite defense.
• Zaslow and Tony analyze the impact of point guard Davion Mitchell’s league-leading assist-to-turnover ratio.

Quote:
"If you're going to play at that pace, that efficiently and never turn the ball over, that's not someone you can bench." – Zaslow (05:07)

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4. NBA Player Empowerment & Giannis Drama (05:41–16:51)

• The conversation turns to superstar movement, speculating about Giannis Antetokounmpo’s possible exit from the Bucks.
• Hosts question if today’s stars might fake injuries to force trades, reflecting increasing cynicism in NBA narratives.
• The group agrees that Giannis’s professionalism and reputation make it unlikely, but entertaining the hypothetical shows how dramatic the league has become.

Quote:
"I believe that the faking of an injury is a bridge too far... that is a scar that should stay on your resume forever." – Zaslow (12:45)
“...the fact that we are where we are in how to escalate the drama... just shows kind of how nuts things have gotten in terms of those contracts and being moved.” – Jeremy (13:54)

Notable Side Topic (07:48–10:12):
Jokey confusion over “The Yankee Clipper” nickname leads to stories about Miami’s Yankee Clipper hotel, family lore about sleeping on the beach, and playful debates about what “homeless” means in 2025.

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5. The Debate: Has Milwaukee “Maxed Out” with Giannis? (20:31–28:47)

• Intense debate: Has Milwaukee underachieved by winning only one title with Giannis?
• Tony and Mike insist any title is an achievement – “Winning is hard.” Zaslow argues a player of Giannis’s stature should have won more.
• They acknowledge Milwaukee’s depleted roster and difficulty in building a contender around a star late in his contract cycle.

Quote:
"I would argue that... they’ve underachieved. That one championship is not enough to win when you have that player." – Zaslow (22:44)
"Why does he have to win two? Like, he won! He did!" – Tony (27:04)

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6. Banner Controversies & Heat Legends (23:06–25:32)

• Banter about the legitimacy of banners: Should the Heat (or Nuggets) put up banners for NBA Cup wins?
• Riff on whether Jimmy Butler, LeBron James, or other Heat stars should have their numbers retired.
• Discussion on Miami sports’ odd tradition of jersey retirements (even Dan Marino and Michael Jordan!).

Quote:
“Will Jimmy Butler’s number be retired by the Heat?... Put it in the bullshit.” – Mike Ryan (25:01)

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7. Front Office Choices & Farewell to Franchise Greats (30:13–41:04)

• Dan and Zaslow critique how the Clippers waved Chris Paul in the middle of the night—a disrespectful ending for the franchise’s greatest.
• They argue that, even with issues, a player’s legacy deserves better handling to preserve optics and respect.
• Humor peaks as the crew speculates the “worst-case scenario” for sending a star away (see Memorable Moments below).

Quote:
"You cannot have your franchise's all great sent packing in the middle of the night." – Zaslow (30:13)
"Lawrence Frank can wa him. But you have to make it look better than that on behalf of the organization." – Dan Le Batard (39:00)

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8. The “Buck's Soul” vs. “Buck's Hole” Debate (28:37–44:00+)

• A clip of Tony saying “the Heat took the Bucks soul” is repeatedly replayed, with some in-studio swearing they hear “Bucks hole.”
• The bickering escalates into one of the episode’s most memorable comedic threads, highlighting the show’s love of audio-driven bits and absurdity.

Quote:
“I heard Bucks hole. The same way I heard Pocracy yesterday. I heard Bucks hole.” – Zaslow (28:50)
“He took the buttle.” – Tony (repeated numerous times, 44:09+)

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9. Miami Parent Fashion & Wrestling Shirts (46:06–47:18)

• Tony describes attending a school function (his wife is the principal) wearing a Roman Reigns wrestling shirt and shorts—prompting mock shame and endless jokes from the crew.
• The discussion lampoons what it means to “dress the part” as an adult in Miami.

Quote:
"Bunch of nine to five losers is what I'm looking at." – Tony (47:02)

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Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• Iconic Banter:
  “What if they killed him? ... Mid game, we killed him. Halftime show. Yes. Just murder.” – Tony & Dan riffing hypothetical worst-case Clippers farewell (40:00)
• Hot Sports Take:
  “If Bobby Portis and Isaiah Stewart started to fight, would you get out of your seat and leave the arena?” – Dan Le Batard (21:09)
• Meta Humor:
  “This is why no one takes me serious. He took the buttle.” – Tony (44:14)
• On South Florida Culture:
  “You are a judge. You're a lawyer. You are a race expert. ... But I think that what is hurting you is the way that you dress.” – Zaslow (44:30)

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Important Timestamps

• Heat predictions & Cooper Flagg’s age: 01:28–04:32
• Giannis trade/injury drama & player empowerment debate: 05:41–16:51
• Yankee Clipper stories and hotel nostalgia: 07:48–10:12
• Milwaukee’s NBA title debate: 20:31–28:47
• Banners & jersey retirement debate (Jimmy Butler, LeBron, etc.): 23:06–25:32
• Chris Paul’s Clippers exit, optics of player farewells: 30:13–41:04
• The "Buck hole" audio bit: 28:37–44:00, recurring
• Miami parenting/wardrobe bit: 46:06–47:18

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Final Thoughts

This episode exemplifies The Dan Le Batard Show’s unique brand: passionate, irreverent, and rooted in South Florida flavor. Whether debating serious topics like player empowerment or riffing on whether Tony said “Buck’s hole,” the crew blends sports analysis with a distinct comedic voice and cultural self-awareness. For listeners, the Local Hour delivers not just sports takes but also a vicarious seat at the most absurd Miami sports bar table you’ll ever find.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Zaslow]

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[Zaslow]

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[Zaslow]

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[Zaslow]

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[Tony]

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[Zaslow]

Visit jdpower.com awards for more details. Chevrolet Together, let's drive. I want to give everybody a brief recreation of what I walked in on this morning as everyone was gathered around a sad bucket of bagels that you'd find at the average PTA meeting that was filled with underperforming students and parents who didn't care. Jeremy is muttering under his breath. I'm not kidding. It's only one game. It's only one game. Zsasz is saying, I knew that was gonna happen. Yeah, I heard that. And Rose is singing in both a bad accent and bad singing voice. Chestnuts roasting on an open fire. She does this thing where she's so loud because she has her headphones on and she doesn't realize people can hear. Zazzle can't do the thing of I knew that was gonna happen. When you have three hours the day before on the air. And you never said that was gonna happen.

[Tony]

Oh, well, we're gon going to break down Heat at Mavericks on a Wednesday night.

[Zaslow]

In his defense, we didn't do predictions. I know, but I'm saying if you knew that was going to happen. And Tony, you seem to be someone who would call bullshit on this. Like if you knew it was going to happen, you got to tell somebody.

[Tony]

And then what would happen?

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on wax.

[Tony]

Would you prepare? If I like, if I told you yesterday, hey, the Heat are going to lose the Mavericks tonight, then what I've.

[Dan Le Batard]

Been like, okay, I'm going to watch a little bit more intently now. Zaz got a little bit something online. He said something, right? You say nothing. I don't care. You say something. I care.

[Tony]

All right, good. So you know what, are we going to make it a thing now where every day are the Heat going to win or lose?

[Zaslow]

You want to make it. You want to make it a thing that every day you announce your MVP candidate for the league and the MVP conversation. Similar imaging for his pick.

[Tony]

Glad you're on board. Will the Heat win tonight?

[Mike Ryan]

Tyler Hero, make a layup.

[Jeremy]

Mike Ryan, watch the game.

[Tony]

Andrew Wiggins. My God, can you make Ryan Nemhardt?

[Zaslow]

Wow.

[Jeremy]

I do.

[Zaslow]

Tangentially, Cooper flagg, is he 19 years old yet?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, he's 19.

[Tony]

No, no, he's 19 in December, two weeks.

[Jeremy]

He said it on the broadcast. When they said he turns 19, I audibly gasped. That doesn't happen often watching a game.

[Zaslow]

In the regular season.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh my God.

[Zaslow]

I know that you know, Kevin Garnett and a handful of others, LeBron James came to the league out of high school, but I personally have never met at that age someone physically who can play in that league. Like I've never encountered someone who's 18 years old that I say, yes, of course he could play against, you know, the Rudy Gobert physical players in that league. Like I. That, that's not. If I have not encountered a human being who is 18 years old that I would say that person can. Can play starting minutes, handle the ball in the NBA.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not only that. Once they switch him from actually playing a good point guard with Ryan Nemhard, his game is like almost taken another step.

[Tony]

They started the season with like him as the.

[Dan Le Batard]

Him as the point guard.

[Mike Ryan]

Tough.

[Jeremy]

It was too much and he was turn turning the ball over at a crazy rate. He had one of those types of turnovers last night too. But it's, it's not just the physicality. It's the IQ. This kid is such a smart basketball player at 18 that defense is legit. Like when Kyrie comes back, it's going to be really frustrating to play the game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did Nico have a vision?

[Jeremy]

The Heat?

[Zaslow]

Yeah, the Heat got unlucky last night though.

[Dan Le Batard]

Anthony Davis played that never happened. 17 and 17 too, by the way.

[Mike Ryan]

AD Big dog.

[Zaslow]

That defense is good, but so is the Heats. Like the thing that I There are two things above all others that I am surprised by that they're playing at that pace and can be that good defensively at that pace, which is a ridiculous pace. And you said, speaking of public comments that you have made, that Davion Mitchell was going to get benched when Tyler Herro came out.

[Tony]

Well, you say bench, that means like that he did something wrong. That's not how I meant it.

[Zaslow]

No. But that he was going to have to go to the bench and I was saying to you can't bench that assist to turnover ratio like it's the best. It's the best in the league. If you're going to play at that pace, that efficiently and never turn the ball over, that's not someone you can bench. Like that's, that's legitimately one of the biggest surprises in Heat history. That point guard. Even at a place that recreates and and fixes all manner of players.

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In making their stars so important in basketball and making the NBA matter over the last 40 years by celebrating the stars they have created league that has a lot of delicious drama. So James Harden and Kawhi Leonard are legitimately shocked when in the middle of the night Lawrence Frank and Chris Paul are having a conversation that gets Chris Paul really unceremonious exit. When I'm thinking I can make the argument that Chris Paul is the best clipper ever. Right? Or who's in that discussion? Like if I just say best clipper ever. Okay, yes, that's Griffin who they also just discarded of. So. So there you've got the drama over there, but all of the drama around the league and the fact that everything changed with Damian Lillard on star player gets what he wants. I'm asking this question while I am leaning toward the innocence of I believe Giannis's injury to be real is the next step on countermeasures for players making sure they get to go where they want, faking non contact injuries. Like I believe everything that happened there to be real. But you come out of a meeting with the Bucks in which I can't hear anything you're saying right now because these guys won't stop arguing about best Clipper of all time.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not even close.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think it's Blake Griffith. I think it's Blake. I think of Chris Paul as a Hornet. I think of him as a Rocky.

Griffin changes.

[Zaslow]

He's still going to think about Chris Paul.

[Dan Le Batard]

Think of the synergy carpet.

[Zaslow]

I would nominate the Yankee Clipper.

Zaslow, is it unfair to say or to even wonder when Giannis wants to force him his way out of there? Because it's being reported that they're meeting to see if Giannis can work anything out with the Bucks. That's not what they're meeting about. You gave yourself the Hakeem Next laugh. You can't do that.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Yankee Clipper.

[Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

No, that was great.

[Mike Ryan]

You can't.

[Zaslow]

There's four people.

[Mike Ryan]

It's in the criteria.

[Zaslow]

Four people driving around listening to this being like Yankee Clipper. It's a hotel in Fort Lauderdale. No, it's not what you're thinking.

[Mike Ryan]

It's an actual Clipper now.

[Zaslow]

It's called B Ocean.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's right about that.

[Zaslow]

You think that the origins of the Yankee Clipper are a Hotel in Fort Lauderdale, 4th of July every year. Cody's it was great. Do you guys know, I don't know if Greg still does this, but Greg Cody, who has been white trash my entire life sleeping on the beach, does the vacation of sleeping on the beach. And it's really not. When I say sleeping on the sand at the beach, outside of a hotel on the beach in Hollywood, that's not the greatest of hotels. It's always after he's had too much to drink so he just doesn't get back to his bed. It would be a bunch of families doing it. And the families would go to the hotel room, but my dad and Papa Benson would sleep on the beach to protect everyone's stuff. Cuz we'd be there in the third and the fourth and it used to be a zoo there on the fourth. So instead of like setting up, resetting up every morning, they would sleep on the beach. And my dad would always bail at like 6am and stumble into the hotel room and try to like get two hours of sleep. And then he'd get. Benson would get mad at my dad, be like, I've been out here all night and Greg, my dad would just slither away. But he would sleep on the sand. And I'm guessing that occasionally, given what your dad gets into, that there wouldn't even be a Towel or blanket or anything out there. There would just be your dad with sand in his hair wandering back into the hotel room sleeping.

[Tony]

Crisscross applesauce.

[Mike Ryan]

Raw dog in the shore is crazy.

[Zaslow]

They would have issues like homeless people would come by and stuff.

[Mike Ryan]

Unhoused.

[Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Actually, no, you can say homeless again.

[Jeremy]

Thank you.

[Zaslow]

You can also say that your father was scaring the unhoused. It wasn't the unhoused. Scaring. Your father say homeless.

[Dan Le Batard]

Homeless guy was like, hey, can I get a cig?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. I knew Tony would have my back.

[Dan Le Batard]

They are homeless. They have no home. Homeless. What do we do?

[Zaslow]

Never got that one. Okay. Not for you to get. It's not offensive to you.

[Tony]

Home.

[Zaslow]

Fewer regardless.

[Dan Le Batard]

Them.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Because you're saying that you guys are.

[Mike Ryan]

All big on, like, how do you identify?

[Dan Le Batard]

Have we asked them, hey, are you cool with homeless? Do you own house? They're like, hey, I don't have a house. Do I give a shit?

[Zaslow]

They've got greater concerns.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

When do we acknowledge Joe DiMaggio is the Yankee Clipper?

[Tony]

Right.

[Zaslow]

Well, thank you for that. I really.

[Mike Ryan]

This whole time I thought it was Tyler Clippard.

[Zaslow]

I. I was about to ask him, actually, Jeremy, who was the Yankee who was nicknamed the Yankee Clipper to try and get the surprise out of him because I don't think he was going to get DiMaggio.

[Mike Ryan]

I think he.

[Jeremy]

Joe.

[Mike Ryan]

I thought it was Tyler Clippard.

[Jeremy]

He clearly did not know this a nickname for anyone.

[Zaslow]

He really, truly. It's a hotel. It's a hotel in Fort Lauderdale. It's a hotel named after Joe DiMaggio. But that's. It's also a hospital in Fort Lauderdale.

[Mike Ryan]

Kiss your cheek.

[Zaslow]

Named after Joe DiMaggi. Put it on the poll, please. At Lebitard. Show more famous Yankee Clipper. The hotel in Fort Lauderdale or Joe to.

[Mike Ryan]

Can you throw Tyler Clifford on there? I think I'm right about this one. A dog with a bone.

[Zaslow]

Jeremy, when you watch what it is that's happening with the Bucks and I'm going to play some Doc Rivers sound for you in a second. Is it wildly unfair for anyone to wonder. And again, I'm going to preface this by saying I believe he's actually injured. I am just wondering if the next step on making a mess where the player takes the power back is. Nah, nah, I'm just not going to play for you. And I'm going to make the mess bigger than any mess. And the way to make it a biggest mess because. Because the reports are from Windhorse that he Wants to be a nick that. He's just saying make me a nick. That, that it not a meeting about. Can you come back to the Bucks once you're at this point in the meetings, it's, I want to get out of here no matter what Doc Rivers says.

[Jeremy]

It's funny the way this is escalated because I came in here with sort of the same energy as you, which is, I think he's hurt. But if you were going to muck things up, it sure would be the right way to do it, which is delete everything off your social media and then immediately the next game you play come out with an injury of which was undetectable. Yeah, non contact, but calf strain. Zaz and I were talking like that.

[Tony]

Like if you, if you have a cash strain, you don't have to play for a year. That's the new, that's the new Achilles tear. And you know what? I normally, I would obviously doubt that Giannis is faking an injury because that has never been his mo. He's a super tough, hard working player, great reputation, but he's doing the childish bullshit like you wouldn't have expected. Giannis doing the let's delete everything off of social media childish nonsense. So he may be doing the get me, get me out of here playbook.

[Dan Le Batard]

Remember his leg snapped on national TV in a finals game and played and had 50 points and 20 rebounds.

[Zaslow]

Okay, but, but I would say that if, if you're just willing to be most cynical and be willing to explore the hypothetical. I believe that the faking of an injury is a bridge too far. There's one thing with, you know, the childishness of deleting the team that you're following, that's, that's a different thing. The faking of an injury to me is something, while not criminal, is something that should ruin your reputation. Like if, if Damian Lillard wasn't willing to ruin his relationship with the fan base of Portland. I know that Giannis is not only a great spokesman for the league, Giannis is, as you say, the stories are legendary. Giannis used to run back and forth to the gym because he would just jog to the gym. He'd always want to be at the gym. He is a hard worker. Everyone has known him to always be a professional. But if you fake an injury to get out of somewhere, to me that is a scar that should stay on your resume forever.

[Jeremy]

Dude is not faking an injury. Like, he's not. This is not fake.

[Tony]

Never know.

[Jeremy]

Well, I think we'll know and I guess Technically short, we can go into it conspiratorially in saying we'll never know. He's not faking an injury. He loves that city. He might be frustrated with the organization, but he cares about the fans. He cares about his own career. He's not a guy who is one to fake anything. But the fact that we are where we are in how to escalate the drama to get what you want when you're a piece like Giannis, that we can sit around here and even question, it just shows kind of how nuts things have gotten in terms of those contracts and being moved.

[Dan Le Batard]

If you look at an injury that he had previously, a couple of years ago, it's kind of the exact same thing. There was a side by side of the videos of him pulling a calf the same exact way. A couple of steps after something happens, he goes down to the floor like, I don't think this is something that's fake. It's something that we've already seen before.

[Mike Ryan]

May I just say, I am so proud of us. We've done this for about eight minutes and we have not put him on the heat yet.

[Zaslow]

We've learned, I would say, that it is less likely that Giannis is faking an injury than the grand majority of players in the league, just based on what you think of their reputations, how much they want to be out there, how much they love basketball. He would be one of my last choices on this. But let's hear what it is that Doc Rivers had to say about this, because he says this is not Blake's fault. So here we go again. There's been no conversations. I want to make it clear just for the. I would say one more time, but for the 50th time, he clearly is not getting the one network for sure. Giannis has never asked to be traded, ever. I can't make that more clear.

[Mike Ryan]

He's only implied it.

[Zaslow]

So here we go again.

He's not asking to be traded. He's telling them to trade him.

It's not a request, it's a demand. It's not. It's not. He's not. He's not politely. He's not politely asking. He's politely telling, I don't want to be here anymore.

[Tony]

What? A reporter then followed up with, but has he told you he wants to be traded? Yes, he has that.

[Zaslow]

I can't make that more clear.

[Mike Ryan]

You could.

[Zaslow]

Wind Horse is saying that Giannis told the Bucks, I want to be a neck, make me a neck, end quote. So does everyone think Doc Rivers is just lying there.

[Jeremy]

Okay, well, that was over the summer. That. I mean, his initial report on that and everything that was going on, the whole long ESPN article that detailed everything was all about Giannis wanting out, asking for enhancements to the roster. They came back with Miles Turner. They told him, we're not moving you. The conversations between the Knicks and the Bucks were not the Bucks calling the Knicks, but the Knicks checking in. And it all just stalled out there. But now, all these months later, so.

[Zaslow]

Here we go again.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Zaslow]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Tony]

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[Zaslow]

Paid analysts, I don't want to mention names. Tnt, espn, you know. Oh, yeah, they are dead. They cannot, they're not going to make it. You know, even if they win in, if they lose in Miami. I need to calm you down. I need to calm down. That's right. They lose in Miami, they don't got a chance in Boston or they are going to have their ass. You know what, you know, stugats. They were wrong. They were. Are they going to lose their job? No. Are they going to get a cutting page? No. What are they going to do?

[Tony]

Keep predicting.

[Zaslow]

What is the obvious. They're going to say, oh, the Nuggets are going to win. Oh, Denver, the attitude. And you know what? The Heat are going to win it all. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

Okay, so this is what's happened to Giannis with Milwaukee, because I don't believe that yesterday is a conversation about, let's see if I can be here. Let's see what we can do. Let's see how we can fix this. I don't believe that that's the case. I believe that Giannis has been stewing in some form since they lost Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday. They're not the same team. He's out there with Bobby Portis now and yes, Miles Turner, who every team in the league could have had the last, the last three years.

[Tony]

Didn't see last night, by the way. We almost had a, a big time, big Time scrapping.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was serious scrap. I mean, two guys really scrap.

[Tony]

Bobby Portis, Isaiah Stewart. If I was at that game and those guys started fighting, I would get out my seat, I would leave. I'd be very scared.

[Zaslow]

Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. If Bobby Portis and Isaiah Stewart started to fight, would you get out of your seat and leave the arena?

[Dan Le Batard]

I gotta my seat and stand.

[Zaslow]

I'm excited to watch it.

[Tony]

I'm trying to stay safe. Tony, please.

[Zaslow]

You guys understand what I am saying though, right? That if you're 20 games into a season and you're under 500 and he's playing the way that he is, which is very well, and you look around and you're like, I can't win this way. This isn't a conversation about how do we fix this here. This is a conversation about how do you fix this for me so I'm no longer.

[Tony]

Oh, you don't think he's going in there to game plan with the front.

[Zaslow]

Office, but that's the way they're presenting it. Okay, you say, you say, of course, but that's not accurate. It's not an accurate representation of what's happening.

[Dan Le Batard]

But even with that, what assets do you have to trade? What assets do you have to make this team better? You don't. And then on top of that, when they've been with him, they've been a 500 ball club. Without him, they've been dreadful. Offensive rating drops like 15 points when Giannis is on the floor to when he's not on the floor. Like, this is a completely flawed roster from top to bottom. We knew that going into the season. And then it's like, oh, Giannis is just going to score 30 and have 15 boards a game. Like, I guess it'll be fine.

[Tony]

Here's the reality. They should trade him. And they are going to trade him. And not just because Giannis wants to be traded, because it's literally the best thing for the franchise. They put. They've already won a championship with him. Like, they've maxed it out. They've maxed it out. They have no assets. Like Tony said, they have no way to build around Giannis for the foreseeable future. They took big swings, they missed. And now the way to replenish is actually to cash in on Giannis.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm sick. It's like winning the in season tournament buys you nothing.

[Zaslow]

So Zaslo claims the Bucks have maxed it out. And I would argue that with that kind of player, they've Underachieved. That one championship is not enough to win when you have that player. I don't even mean it very much as an indictment because he's playing during an era when there are a lot of great players.

[Mike Ryan]

Two championships. There's two banners.

[Dan Le Batard]

Emirates Ist.

[Tony]

Do they have a banner up for that?

[Mike Ryan]

I know the Lakers do.

[Tony]

Boy, I'll tell you what. You know the Heater in the NBA cup semifinals? I hope. I really hope the Heat win. I'm into it. They better not put up a banner.

[Zaslow]

They've got Dan Marino's jersey retired up there.

[Tony]

It's like, in the corner and it's dark.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Zaslow]

How are you into it? But don't want a banner because I.

[Tony]

I would like to say that the Heat won the NBA cup, but you bet you better not put up a banner.

[Mike Ryan]

Does Mark Anthony still have a banner?

[Tony]

I haven't been to the arena in almost two years, so I don't know.

[Zaslow]

Wait a minute.

[Jeremy]

You haven't.

[Zaslow]

You haven't been to the arena since they let you go as the. That. Since you work there professionally in a su.

[Tony]

Yeah, since you got paid to be. Also Travis Scott concert there. I went to that.

[Zaslow]

Nice.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Did you see the Mark Anthony banner?

[Zaslow]

So Michael Jordan's banner is up there. Michael Jordan's jersey has been retired up there. Dan Marino's jersey is retired up there. But this is where Zaz draws the line. Not. Not. Not the Markov. Oh, it's a good one.

Haslam. They're going to put Haslam up there, aren't I think Haslam's already has.

[Tony]

They'll probably just keep it there.

[Mike Ryan]

Haslam's already like, yeah, yeah. Haslam's got the one without, like, hall of Fame below it. It's kind of a little sad by comparison or.

[Jeremy]

Gold medal.

[Tony]

LeBron doesn't have all of it. Or, you know, Bonds on up there.

[Mike Ryan]

But whenever, you know, yeah, LeBron's on up there.

[Zaslow]

Will he. Will he be?

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you happen to know?

[Tony]

I. I don't happen to know, and I'll be honest with you. I hope not.

[Mike Ryan]

If shaq's up there, LeBron's up there.

[Tony]

Get out of here.

[Mike Ryan]

If shaq's up there, LeBron's up there.

[Zaslow]

You guys are nuts if you think LeBron's not going up there eventually.

[Mike Ryan]

And you're crazy if you don't think Jimmy's going to be up there soon.

[Tony]

Oh, get out of here.

[Zaslow]

Shoot. Take that back.

[Mike Ryan]

Jimmy will be up there.

[Zaslow]

Shame on you. So here we go again. Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Would. Will Jimmy Butler's number be retired by the Heat and put in the bullshit?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, it would be. It would be. This isn't about Mickey. This isn't about Pat. It's about the fans. And I know it was ugly at the end, but Jimmy brought a lot of great memories here.

[Tony]

You think the fans want that?

[Zaslow]

I mean, Tim Hardaway is up there. He did, I guess, more than Tim Hardaway.

[Mike Ryan]

I think right now it's split. I think in 10 years time, we'll be like, you know, Covid.

[Tony]

The photo.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, like, you know what?

[Zaslow]

Like an. An asterisk for Covid. Just. Just gonna say Covid on the phone.

[Mike Ryan]

It made us all crazy.

[Tony]

I think in 10 years time, fans would be like, wow, we didn't win shit when Jimmy was here.

[Zaslow]

What? We went with Tim Hardaway.

[Tony]

I understand, but it's not the same.

[Zaslow]

I don't think this is fair. Okay? Like, I understand that the standard in sports is that there's one winner and everyone else gets to be a loser, but you don't get to disgrace everything. That of an era of basketball that was really good in Miami and really successful because they got close a few times but didn't end up winning the trophy. I'm not going to dismiss that entire era as loser, but I also think the hostility and the mess at the end will make it so that I doubt very much that while Pat Riley's alive, that jersey's going up there.

[Mike Ryan]

I'd love to see how that process goes. Is this something that they visit with annually? Is there a committee? Like, is there, like a board meeting where someone's like, all right, Goran Dragic and puts out feelers?

[Zaslow]

Okay, quick meeting.

[Mike Ryan]

We'll have this conversation next year for 22.

[Dan Le Batard]

They immediately gave it to Andrew Wiggins. Like, Jimmy left. They give 22 immediately to sign. Like, come on.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, but when LeBron came here, Mario's like, all right, I guess I'll give you six.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, okay. That's different.

[Zaslow]

Do you guys disagree with me saying that Giannis winning one championship in Milwaukee is not a max out, it's an underachiever?

[Tony]

I do disagree.

[Mike Ryan]

Two times.

[Tony]

I do disagree.

[Mike Ryan]

What if it's two titles?

[Tony]

I do disagree. I think winning is really hard in that sports. I mean, Luka Doncic, his time in Dallas, a major disappointment. You win anything.

[Zaslow]

Yeah, but if Giannis didn't win a championship, he'd go right there with Barkley as the best players in that sport to never have won a championship.

[Tony]

Right, but he did. Like, why does he have to win two like he won? He did.

[Zaslow]

Oh, because I thought he was going to be dominating the sport over an narrative. It's like, if Wemby only wins 1 1. To me, the kind of player that Giannis was. When I'm looking at what that was physically and I. Again, we're. We're really splitting hairs, because I don't mean this as an indictment of Giannis. I've said of Aaron Rodgers, that's underachievement. I've said of Shaq, that's underachievement. And I don't mean it as indictment. I just mean those are physically such gifted players that they should win more than they've won because they were the best among the best of what it is I've ever seen.

[Jeremy]

And I would think in this conversation, you're using that more as a indictment of the front office.

[Zaslow]

Well, that. But I'm saying they won with Drew Holiday and Chris Middleton. Like, it's not. That's fine. But it's like, that's fine, but it's his two best teammates winning a championship. That. It's exactly what I'm saying. It's why he's leaving. Like, it's because since they won the championship, you're supposed to build off that, and they've gotten on nothing but down. Because he's like, you're not even going to get me Drew Holiday and Chris Middleton. You're going to get me Miles Turner.

[Dan Le Batard]

But they were old at that point, right? Like, they were already kind of on the cusp of. All right, These guys are older guys that are champion veteran players. Now, all of a sudden, you get rid of those guys. You don't tool up on young guys. You get A.J. green, who's running out there shooting threes. You're like, what am I going to do with this?

[Mike Ryan]

They did get them Damian Lillard, though, and they won that bidding war.

[Tony]

Everyone was in on that trade. Everyone.

[Mike Ryan]

And it resulted in, again, an Emirates cup title. You can't. You guys keep glossing over this thing, and I don't get it.

[Tony]

Can we just say the very obvious, and that is that in. In the year 2023, Jimmy Butler and the Heat took the Buck soul.

[Mike Ryan]

They did what?

[Tony]

They took the Bucks soul.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay?

[Zaslow]

The soul. I heard Bucks hole. The same way I heard Pocracy yesterday. I heard Bucks hole.

[Tony]

You think I said they took the Bucks hole?

[Zaslow]

You said they take that. Yeah. You're the inventor around here of taking that ass.

[Tony]

Why would anyone say I thought that's.

[Mike Ryan]

What the guy that says take that ass would say.

[Zaslow]

I heard that, Tony. How did you hear that?

[Dan Le Batard]

I heard soul.

[Zaslow]

I know what he said. Jeremy. What did here? Solar hole.

[Jeremy]

Hole for sure.

[Zaslow]

Get the hell out. It didn't sound like you said Buckshole.

[Tony]

When you take a box, that box.

[Zaslow]

Hole is what you said.

[Tony]

What happens when you take their hole?

[Zaslow]

You. You.

[Mike Ryan]

What happens when you take that ass?

[Tony]

Oh, you got to happens.

[Zaslow]

You said they took that buck's hole. That's what I heard anyways. That is what I heard. I want to go back on two different things here. First, the Chris Paul thing, because I don't think we talked about this enough yesterday. I almost don't care what happened outside of an illegality. You cannot have your franchises all great scent packing in the middle of the night. Like you're telling. You're sitting here telling me that the Bucks are constructing an assortment of lies to protect their franchise, their optics and everything. An assortment of lies as it relates to Giannis. But the Clippers in this case, who by the way, put this on the poll at LeBatard show. Did Pablo Torre ruin the Clippers?

[Tony]

Did he take their. Take their hole?

[Zaslow]

Did. Did Pablo Torre take the Clippers hole?

[Jeremy]

Maybe we shouldn't phrase it that way.

[Zaslow]

Because this has been a Clipper disaster. They won last night in Atlanta. I defy you to look at that Atlanta roster last night and figure out how it is that that team was 13 and nine headed into that game. But you can't let the best player in franchise history, I'm saying, outside of an illegality, outside of him committing a crime, that's not the way you can have that career end publicly almost no matter what he's done. If he's arguing with Lawrence Frank in the middle of the night in a hotel room for three hours, whatever it.

[Tony]

Is, what if he spit in Lawrence Frank's face?

[Zaslow]

You can't do that. You cannot there.

[Jeremy]

I mean, Zaz went to the extreme.

[Zaslow]

No, I know. I'm saying you cannot have Chris Paul's career end in a way that looks like that. You can absolutely wave him. But it's got to look better than that at the end, because what ends up happening the way that they did that, okay, people wake up in the morning and they're like, what happened with Chris Paul? And all you have after that is everyone asking what else happened there. You have to be able in protection of your franchise, in protection of who it is that Chris Paul is, in protection of what it is that he's done for Your franchise. You have to protect the optics better than that. If you're willing to tell me that the Bucks are just out here lying. Just lying about what? What's happening with Giannis. Why wouldn't they lie in this situation to simply wait until the next day. Wait. It's the. Sending him home in the middle of the night, shocking his teammates where. Where you're now got a locker room the next day.

[Tony]

Day.

[Zaslow]

Where Hardin and Kawhi Leonard are giving the quotes of like, this totally surprised me.

[Tony]

So you're telling me Lawrence Frank can be sitting there with a loogie hanging from his face like, all right, I'll see you at practice tomorrow.

[Zaslow]

I'm saying they can waive him and make it look better than that. He doesn't have to come to practice. You could, you could say. You could actually say conduct detrimental, whatever it is that you want to say. You can't just send them away in the middle of the night and leave all of the questions there when it's an all time great. Like when I'm sitting here looking at this, when people are saying they're, they're. I'm listening to the COVID average yesterday, I'm like, Chris Paul, I think is the best player they've ever had. Like the clip. This is. We're still debating it back here. This is a franchise. This is a franchise that before Chris Paul got there, was a laughingstock for 30 years. Like before Chris Paul. Chris Paul is the beginning of them getting to be more credible. Chris Paul's the beginning of Ballmer being able to make one of the dumbest trades in history that we all thought was a good trade at the time.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Tony]

And I guess because everything you said is true, I guess the place that I go is he must have been impossible to deal with this season for them to do all of those things you just did.

[Zaslow]

Yeah. But you can have all of that be so. And still protect your organization and optics better than that. The way that you're doing it, the way that the Clippers did it, as far as I can tell. Show me all the hypothetical worst ways they could have done. Done it. Give me, give me all the things that you imagine that a PR team, a crisis team, a marketing team on optics. Tell me how they could have done it worse than the way that they did it, where they're just leaving a bunch of questions for people in the morning on like, what the hell happened.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Zaslow]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Zaslow]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Zaslow]

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[Mike Ryan]

As.

[Zaslow]

They chase the nets for the six seed. These five words in his head scream away winning games. Yet this is the Dan Levatar show with the stug.

[Mike Ryan]

Briefly revisiting the worst basketball trade of all time. Everyone was grateful that the Clippers got into that thing because if Kawhi went to the Lakers, they would have ruined the sport. Why even have the games? The Lakers are going to win everything and then cut to now. That trade did end up ruining the sport because OKC is unbeatable.

[Jeremy]

Just thought of something. Do we think that the Clippers did this to destroy from Pablo's aspiration story so that that way there's just something crazier that's happened more recently that seems like an even bigger front office and ownership bungle?

[Mike Ryan]

No, because there's a mystery here with the Clippers and the last thing they want is another mystery.

[Dan Le Batard]

Though I feel bad for the PR people, right? Like just one storm after another. It's the aspiration thing. It's. This is that all of a sudden they wake up, you guys did what to Chris Paul? Now we have to clean up. What again?

[Tony]

I know we like to talk about front office executives, general managers, even coaches. They're stupid. They don't know what they're doing. All right, I'm guilty of that as well. Lawrence Frank definitely understands the optics of what he did or was about to do before he did it, yet he still did it. So doesn't there have to be something.

[Zaslow]

Really bad that happens again? The fact that they've left that question your mind a day later is part of the problem. I don't assume Lawrence Frank's no Lawrence Frank knows what he's doing based on how I saw him with weeks to prepare for the Pablo allegations, how he arrived at camp to talk about that publicly. We can get that sound. Get. Get me the sound please. That we were making fun of Lawrence Frank about when it is that he made those comments when he had weeks to prepare for the making of those comments. But also get me the sound of Hawks fans last night just chill ranting that they're wondering where Chris Paul is. Where's Chris Paul? Where's Chris Paul? This is it. This is in Atlanta. And this is the fans heckling the Clippers saying where is Chris Paul?

Where is Chris Paul? The idea that you would take an all time great, just basketball great. Nevermind Clippers great. Because again, I'll just, I'll keep saying it. Whoever you think is the best Clipper of all time. In my lifetime watching basketball, it's been Chris Paul just seeing everything that is happening around the Clippers reminds me that they've been a laughing stock when they've cleared some of that laughing stock energy off of them over the years. But Mike mentioned that Kawhi Leonard would have ruined the sport if he had teamed with LeBron. Chris Paul would have ruined Los Angeles in basketball if they'd let him go to the Lakers before David Stern stepped in and said, you can't go to the Lakers. Like, if they'd let him go to the Lakers, the Clippers would still be something that we're laughing at, because Chris Paul is more responsible for the Clippers resuscitating them themselves than the Clippers have ever been for resuscitating themselves. And it shifted in Los Angeles, where the Clippers became something formidable when he got there. And I just don't know what he could have done when he says spitalogie in his face, like. Like Jamar Chase and Jalen Ramsey when he says spitalogie in his face. Chris Paul is more important to everything the Clippers have been than Lawrence Frank is. By leaps and bounds. Like, it's not Lawrence Frank doesn't have to eat it. He can wa him. But you have to make it look better than that on behalf of the organization. So I ask you guys the question again. What is the hypothetical worst way that they could have done it if it's not this?

[Tony]

Mid game. Right. Mid game, he's not playing. Yeah, but if at one point, like, Tyler just walks over, what if they killed him?

[Dan Le Batard]

Just flat out kill.

[Tony]

Hey, mid game, he's dead.

[Zaslow]

Mid game, we killed him. Halftime show. Yes. Just murder. Okay, you got me, Tony. You did.

[Mike Ryan]

Thank you.

[Dan Le Batard]

You sat in the chair.

[Zaslow]

Electric chair.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's dead. Sorry.

[Zaslow]

Okay. Really? It was a play elect. So. So electrocute him. Electrocute him to death in Atlanta.

[Mike Ryan]

Pro capital punishment, my man.

[Zaslow]

All right, very good. I appreciate the. The effort. Let's check in here with Zaslow and make a final verdict here on whether he said, take their soul or take their whole.

[Tony]

Jimmy Butler in the Heat took the buck. Soul vindicated.

[Mike Ryan]

I hear holes.

[Zaslow]

Play it again.

[Jeremy]

Right.

[Tony]

Jimmy Butler in the Heat took the buckhole.

[Zaslow]

I still hear holes.

[Dan Le Batard]

That S is not doing that.

[Zaslow]

S is not direct to the Bucks. That.

[Dan Le Batard]

That S. Dan has the S somewhere else.

[Zaslow]

I'm with Zaz on this. I hear soul. No, listen to me. Just listen to me closely. That S is attached to the buck. It is not attached to the hole.

[Tony]

Jimmy Butler in the Heat took the buck's hole.

[Zaslow]

Buck's hole. That's possessive. That S belongs to the buck.

[Tony]

Something wrong with your ears?

[Zaslow]

You keep playing that. Keep playing that.

[Mike Ryan]

We're fine tuning the buck soul.

[Tony]

Come on.

[Mike Ryan]

What do you mean, come on?

[Zaslow]

I still hear hole.

[Tony]

He took the buck soul. Yeah, that's definitely.

[Zaslow]

Wait a minute.

[Dan Le Batard]

There's only one S. Like Dan said, you shouldn't.

[Zaslow]

There's not two S's there. There aren't two S's. There's one S. There's one S is.

[Tony]

The bridge took the buck soul.

[Zaslow]

And it's with the hole. It's not with the buck.

[Mike Ryan]

The more I listen to it, the more it's whole.

[Tony]

The more I listen to it, the better I feel. He took the buck soul.

[Zaslow]

That like Yankee win.

[Mike Ryan]

There's no S. This one is only.

[Tony]

One took the buck soul.

[Zaslow]

That is not vindication for Zaslo. I don't know how you hear vindication there when all I hear again and again is hole.

[Tony]

He took the buckhole. Thank you for playing that again because now I definitely know I said buck soul. Thank you.

[Jeremy]

Got to pay the troll toll.

[Zaslow]

Jeremy, do you have a ruling on this? Because I believe. I don't believe Mike and I are doing bit here. I keep hearing. Now, this might be one of those things where you hear whatever it is you want to hear before you start the conversation.

[Mike Ryan]

It is, but I'm telling you, the more you hear it, the clearer it becomes.

[Jeremy]

It's obvious there's one S there. He just flew through.

[Tony]

The other is why you're not a judge.

[Zaslow]

Okay, but you've got to give Chris Cody time to edit this. When he's editing most ferociously, his mouth hangs open and he panicked. I can tell he's editing this.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yelled an F word.

[Zaslow]

Can't hear what I'm editing when you guys are talking. Everyone shut up.

[Mike Ryan]

Stop blowing the car.

Just give him time.

[Zaslow]

Layout is his mouth is open.

[Mike Ryan]

You lay out and you feel. Now we do something.

[Zaslow]

I have Lawrence Frank talking about rules.

[Tony]

Which was, has Dennis Robertson, Kawhi's uncle, ever asked for any extra benefits that wouldn't be allowable under the NBA seller cap directly to you? There's been a lot coming out of his asks.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, look, Dennis knows the rules. Kawhi knows the rules.

[Zaslow]

Mitch Frankel knows the rules, and we know the rules.

Is that a guess or a no, though?

[Jeremy]

Yes, we all know the rules.

[Zaslow]

You're positive he knows what he's doing?

[Jeremy]

You're.

[Tony]

You're telling me it's not possible? Chris Paul spit a loogie on that guy's face.

[Mike Ryan]

I Heard hole.

[Jeremy]

Are you reporting it?

[Zaslow]

Let's relive this.

[Tony]

He took the butthole.

[Zaslow]

That's obvious. Whoa, it's obvious? Like, that's how I've heard it every single time.

[Mike Ryan]

It wasn't even saying bucks. It was just straight up butthole.

[Tony]

He took the butt. He took the buttle.

You guys are bullshit.

[Zaslow]

What do you mean?

[Mike Ryan]

You're bullshit.

[Zaslow]

You said it. You said it and we heard it that way. You're a professional communicator. We often listen around here. We listen. We listen to the clip of about 91% around here to what other people are saying. And multiple people heard you say that. He took the bucks hole.

[Tony]

He took the bottle.

[Zaslow]

And now it's even worse. Now it's even clearer to me. The more I hear it, the more obvious it is to me that you said something that' appropriate and you should be on the cusp of being canceled.

[Tony]

He took the bottle.

[Zaslow]

Is that not obvious to you? What are you making faces for?

[Tony]

This is why no one takes me serious. He took the buttle.

[Mike Ryan]

It's the backwards flex fit hat.

[Zaslow]

It's the fact that you wear a Roman Reign shirt. Nice hat.

[Tony]

Hitman heart.

[Zaslow]

No.

You are a judge. You're a lawyer. You are a race expert.

[Tony]

Race war expert.

[Zaslow]

You're a journalist. You're a journalist. You are being taken seriously around here. But I think that what is hurting you is the way that you dress like. I believe that Juju is right when he says you can be taken more seriously. Anyone can be if they dress for the part.

[Tony]

I had to go to a school function last night with my older son, my younger son. Excuse me. My wife couldn't come because she had something else going on. I was wearing a wrestling shirt. I said to my wife, do I have to change? Change? And she said, you wear whatever you.

[Zaslow]

Want, but date night is different. The rules.

[Tony]

Well, yeah, because I wasn't with her last night, but date night, you know, I'm right next to her. So I guess she felt that. That's the difference.

[Zaslow]

Okay, so the shame is not of having you as an adult, dressed like a toddler, being among other parents, as her husband.

[Tony]

And my wife's a principal of the school, by the way.

[Zaslow]

Whoa.

[Tony]

What? What happened?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, wait. The same school?

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

So people know you. You're like, kind of like a. Like a boss around there.

[Tony]

I mean, I'm not there that often, so I don't know if they know me.

[Zaslow]

I want to clarify a couple of different things here. As Jeremy Please isolate the shocked woe From Jeremy as he just fled the microphone with, like, shame and embarrassment on behalf of Zaz. The way that Zaz feels shame and embarrassment when watching anything Tim Robinson does on an airplane. The idea that your wife, when you're next to her, would have an objection to going out to dinner with you wearing a Roman rain shirt. But she's fine with you representing among other parents at the school where she's the principal, which is really a detail I did not know either. And inside, I had the same reaction that Jeremy had outside. It came out of Jeremy's mouth, but it was in. It was pinballing inside me. I just didn't want, you know, Zaz to feel my shame, which is, oh, my God, the principal must be so embarrassed that her husband is going out in public among other parents wearing a Roman reigns shirt that none of those kids would wear.

[Tony]

I was glad she finally allowed me to express myself.

[Dan Le Batard]

What did your kid wear? Is he also wearing a wrestling shirt? He's like, dad's wearing the wrestling shirt.

[Tony]

I will go like, nah, school uniform.

[Zaslow]

So everyone there is dressed professionally. You're the worst one. You're dressed worst.

[Tony]

I think you're mispronouncing.

[Jeremy]

She looks more like the middle schooler than the middle schoolers.

[Tony]

I look great. I was very pleased with my look last night.

[Zaslow]

But when you look at the other parents, is there anyone else see a bunch of.

[Tony]

Bunch of nine to five losers is what I'm looking at.

[Dan Le Batard]

Got a point there.

[Tony]

You don't think they trade places with me?

[Dan Le Batard]

Of course. Did you wear jeans?

[Tony]

No, I don't wear jeans. I wore shorts.

[Dan Le Batard]

Your shorts at night?

[Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Tony]

Whatever, man.

[Jeremy]

Okay. You never wear jeans.

[Tony]

I don't do. He took the buttle.

[Zaslow]

So nine to five losers is what you have now called the principal's constituency.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Tony]

He took the bottle.

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[Zaslow]

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[Zaslow]

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[Zaslow]

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