Local Hour: Tony Calls Dan "Dad" (feat. Tom Bogert)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Local Hour: Tony Calls Dan "Dad" (feat. Tom Bogert)

Date: December 5, 2025
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Mike Ryan, Chris Cody, Tony, Roy, Jeremy
Special Guest: Tom Bogert (The Athletic)

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Episode Overview

This "Local Hour" episode, live from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, features the show's signature blend of South Florida sports, national headlines, soccer expertise, and the chaotic, playful banter that defines the Le Batard universe. The centerpiece: Inter Miami's surprising bid for a championship with Messi in the squad, analysis from soccer insider Tom Bogert, and plenty of digressions on the World Cup draw, college football playoff drama, the Florida Panthers’ woes, and LeBron James’ streak ending.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Who’s That Guest? The Arrival of Tom Bogert

• [02:22] Mike Ryan and the Shipping Container crew joke about the "mysterious" person joining them—Tom Bogert, praised for his mustache and status as a soccer authority.
  • Dan: “He’s got a hell of a mustache... He’s the premier soccer insider in the United States. One of them behind me just. It’s me, Tom.”

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2. World Cup Draw Hype and Sentiment

• [03:05] - [04:36] The crew banters about the World Cup draw spectacle.

  • Dan: “I think this might be the third largest global audience for any sporting event and it’s the World Cup draw. No games being played, just a lot of pomp and a whole lot of circumstance.”
  • Chris Cody: “Well, that’s stupid.”
  • Mike Ryan: “It is not stupid. What is your favorite pomp and what is your favorite circumstance?”

• Celebrity hosts get a mention; there’s incredulity over Shaq’s inclusion and Aaron Judge being the only active athlete among legends like Tom Brady and Wayne Gretzky.

  • Dan: "Aaron Judge is the only active athlete... it should have been Jeter, right? It should have been Jeter."

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3. Battle Court, Cyclones, and South Florida Sports Smorgasbord

• [04:50] - [07:59] Show transitions to a busy Miami sports weekend: Battle Court playoffs, Inter Miami's championship match, NFL games, and more.

• Shipping Container banter on Cyclones and Battle Court format:

  • Mike Ryan: “I don’t understand how the playoffs work in your sport.”
  • Shipping Container role-plays as Battle Court players to explain the format, with classic Le Batard Show inside-jokes and misdirections.
  • Dan (on Cyclones): “We won the first title own once they added teams to the league. This is our first appearance in the playoffs since they expanded to six teams… We have had Manu as our stalwart… now we are the top seed. We are favored.”

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4. Tony Calls Dan "Dad" – Comedy and Vulnerability

• [08:52] Tony accidentally refers to Dan as "dad", setting off a sequence of playful ribbing :
  • Tony: "I don’t even call my dad dad. Wow, that’s like. What are we doing?"
  • Dan (mock confusion): "Let’s talk about that. You confused me with dad."

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5. Messi & Inter Miami: Soccer Talk with Tom Bogert

• [09:35] - [12:31]

  • Mike Ryan asks Tom: How momentous is Messi’s run with Inter Miami, and why has it flown under the radar domestically?

    • Tom: “In the soccer world, I wouldn’t call it too quietly...In the mainstream... it’s behind a paywall and...they haven’t really promoted it that well. But on the field it’s been awesome. He scored or assisted each one of the team's first 12 playoff goals...It is unbelievable. I wish that we were talking about it more... than, 'Hey, why is nobody caring?'” [10:22]

  • On Messi’s enduring greatness:

    • Tom: “He’s just an alien. There isn’t real precedence... While his left foot is the best of all time, I think his best ability is his intelligence... his way to camouflage himself within the action. There is nobody that you should be paying attention to more if you’re a defender, and he constantly finds ways to just hide and then sprint and it’s a tap-in... He’s just so smart and I think that’s his best quality.” [11:14]

  • On Messi’s World Cup future:

    • Tom: “It’s weird that he keeps saying, I don’t know if I’m going to play at the World Cup...He continues to play. He continues to be really, really great. And he still says things like, I don’t know...Is he doing what the committee’s doing with Notre Dame, Miami—just like keeping us interested?” [12:08]

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6. Miami College Football Playoff Hype

• [13:08] - [18:00]

  • The guys discuss Mario Cristobal’s active media campaign for Miami’s College Football Playoff case, contrasting it with Notre Dame’s more reserved posture.

    • Mike Ryan: “He guaranteed it with every fiber of his being, not some of the fibers, not a percentage of the fibers, all of the fibers in his entire being.” [25:25]

  • Chris Cody recaps a Zaslow show interview with Cristobal comparing this year’s playoff scenario to last year’s, where Cristobal admits this year’s team has a much better case.

    • Cristobal (via Chris Cody): “Last year...we did not have a very good defense...This year it's not. This is about facts being presented. I just think that we have the best case scenario. You have a head to head, same record and common opponents and statistical data showing that we are playing our absolute best football.” [14:31]

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7. The U.S. World Cup Draw: "Pot" Talk

• [23:22] - [24:09]
  • Tony (explaining): “Today’s a big day. You find out the groups, will learn who the United States are paired against. They are in Pot A, which means they will not draw... the best teams in the world. You get one team per pot, and we’ll find out the other three opponents for the United States and obviously everybody else.”
  • Mix of excitement and derision for FIFA's ceremony (and the invented trophy for Donald Trump).
  • Tony (on the spectacle): “They invented a peace prize award to give to Donald Trump, and I think today is going to take, I don't know, nine hours.”

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8. The Imminent Messi Era 2.0

• [28:05] Tom Bogert: “This is going to be the last day of Messi 1.0 in Miami. Jordi Alba, Sergio Busquets are retiring, maybe probably Luis Suarez. And then 2.0 starts after this. So it's either are they defending a title or are they still trying to get back over that hump.”
  • On the stakes: Even a win won’t guarantee greater U.S. sports interest, but it’s a watershed for MLS.

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9. Florida Panthers Drama, Excuses, and Injuries

• [34:04] - [39:44]

  • Roy gets ribbed for his concern about the Panthers' losing streak.

  • Dan (on "good" excuses): “No one actually took out the Florida Panthers. Injury took them out, and we rebuild next year. But you could always say when you tell the story... [the team was] so banged up from all the winning...”

  • Hilarious, winding riff on hockey injuries, especially a bizarre “barbecue accident” and whether severed fingers should go in milk or ice.

    • Tony (after Internet research): “The human heart and grand criminal Internet is saying for a severed finger, you should wrap it in a moist cloth or gauze, place it in a sealed plastic bag, and then put it in ice and rush to the ER. Milk is not recommended.”

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10. LeBron James’ Scoring Streak Ends

• [42:29] - [46:28]
  • Mike Ryan shares text from Nick Wright: "Ask Zaz what he thinks about how LeBron ended his streak..."
  • Chris Cody: “He was 4 for 17. All right, like, that's why he didn't get the streak, not because he chose to do the unselfish thing.”
  • Dan (on end of an era): “I think we're seeing the beginning of the end. Not that I think he's going to retire this year, because I think LeBron is going to announce a farewell farewell tour, which I think will last multiple years...”
  • Tony (mocking Nick Wright): “This has to be the worst take of the year by Nick Wright... saying LeBron would be an all star at 50 and then what he's done so far.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Messi’s vast impact:
  • Tom Bogert [11:14]: "He’s just an alien. There isn’t real precedence... his best quality is his intelligence."
• On World Cup draw ceremony:
  • Tony [24:02]: “They invented a peace prize award to give to Donald Trump, and I think today is going to take, I don't know, nine hours.”
• On Mario Cristobal’s CFA campaign:
  • Mike Ryan [25:25]: “He guaranteed it with every fiber of his being, not some of the fibers, not a percentage of the fibers, all of the fibers in his entire being.”
• On Tony’s accidental “dad” moment:
  • Tony [08:52]: "I don’t even call my dad dad. Wow, that’s like. What are we doing?"
• On the Panthers’ injury luck:
  • Dan [36:16]: “No one actually took out the Florida Panthers. Injury took them out and we rebuild next year. But you could always say when you tell the story…”
• On severed fingers (off the rails):
  • Tony [41:15]: “You should wrap it in a moist cloth or gauze, place it in a sealed plastic bag, and then put it in ice and rush to the ER. Milk is not recommended.”
• On LeBron’s streak:
  • Chris Cody [44:24]: “Is there an honest bone in his body?”
  • Mike Ryan [44:26]: “A fiber in his being? An honest fiber in his being?”

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Important Timestamps

• [02:22] - Tom Bogert is introduced and praised for his mustache and soccer knowledge.
• [03:05] - World Cup draw hype and celebrity involvement.
• [08:52] - Tony refer to Dan as “dad,” leading to running jokes.
• [09:35] - [12:31] - In-depth Messi and Inter Miami discussion with Tom Bogert.
• [14:31] - Chris Cody presents Mario Cristobal’s stance on Miami’s playoff case.
• [23:22] - [24:09] - Tom lays out World Cup draw logistics and why he dislikes the spectacle.
• [28:05] - Tom on the transition from Messi 1.0 to 2.0 in Miami.
• [34:04] - [39:44] - Panthers’ struggles, hockey injury anecdotes, severed finger hijinks.
• [42:29] - [46:28] - LeBron James’ scoring streak ends, the ensuing debates.

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Tone & Takeaways

• High-energy, irreverent, inside-jokey, but loaded with insight—especially regarding Messi’s career renaissance, South Florida sports culture, and the idiosyncrasies of American soccer’s spot in the landscape.
• Tom Bogert’s expert perspective elevates the episode’s soccer talk.
• Classic Le Batard Show chaos: frequent tangents, role playing, and meta jokes about the show’s own structure and interruptions.
• Memorable gags: Tony calling Dan “dad”, whether to put a severed finger in milk or ice, and the messy details of South Florida sports success and heartbreak.

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For listeners who missed the episode: This Local Hour traverses the absurd and the insightful, delivering serious analysis on Messi's impact with Inter Miami, the pending World Cup draw, and Miami sports, interspersed with the infectious, unpredictable humor and group dynamics that define the show. Tom Bogert’s thoughtful soccer analysis is a highlight, while the “Tony calls Dan ‘dad’” slip and escalating hockey injury anecdotes provide classic, laugh-out-loud Le Batard moments.

Transcript

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[Tony]

Let's drive.

[Stugotz]

Zaz, is that Jeremy's brother in the back corner of the shipping container? Who is that back there?

[Zaslow]

I don't know that fool.

[Stugotz]

I believe that we brought someone in because Mike Ryan needs to talk about a most historic finals match being played in soccer.

[Tony]

I'm not enough for him.

[Stugotz]

And well, Tony's not enough. Roy's not enough, Chris isn't enough. I'm not enough, Jeremy's not enough. And Zaz isn't enough.

[Dan Le Batard]

What are we talking about again? You called it the finals. It's just a final. There's no S. Yeah, like hockey. Singular game.

[Stugotz]

How many are there? How many are there that are just called a. Okay, I guess that's what it is.

[Dan Le Batard]

Singular. Final.

[Stugotz]

When it's one game, it's a final. And when it's More than one game. It's plural.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, not an hockey.

I understand. It's confusing. Battle Court, though. That's a final.

[Stugotz]

Oh, yeah, we'll get to that in a second. Goosebumps. No one's answered my question on who the hell that is. That's Tom Bogert in the right hand corner of the show.

[Dan Le Batard]

Welcome, Tom from the Athletic.

He is. He's got a hell of a mustache. That is his number one accolade. But his number two is he's the premier soccer insider in the United States. One of them behind me just. It's me, Tom.

[Stugotz]

Well, it's good then. We're going to have some people to talk soccer with on an important soccer day. They're going to be drawing ping pong balls today for 90 minutes of wild entertainment. What do you. Tony, what are you making?

[Dan Le Batard]

Pulling ping pong balls. I can see that on Twitter. Let me know who's on. Oh, Netherlands are here.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, cool.

[Dan Le Batard]

It is whatever. Pretty absurd that we were talking about it before. I think this might be the third largest global audience for any sporting event and it's the World cup draw. No games being played, just a lot of pomp and a whole lot of circumstance.

[Zaslow]

Well, that's stupid.

[Stugotz]

It is not stupid. What is your favorite pomp and what is your favorite circumstance?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, today there's plenty of pomp. A lot of legends. Eli Manning is hosting a red carpet. Dan, of course, got draw assistance. You got the go to the game. You got Shaq, you got Wayne Gretzky, you got Tom Brady and represent baseball.

[Tony]

Aaron, Judge Jordan wasn't available.

[Stugotz]

Okay. But he's too busy doing those interviews from months ago with Mike Tirico. Are they still airing the same one, by the way, or they said have they done a fresh one yet or are they still airing the Michael Jordan, do you think? A couple of months.

[Tony]

Do you think Shaq knows he wasn't the first choice?

[Stugotz]

No, I think that Shaq probably assumes in all instances that he's always the first choice.

[Dan Le Batard]

Aaron Judge is the only active athlete out of that four. And they represent the big four sports in this. It should have been Jeter, right? It should have been Jeter.

[Tony]

Maybe he said no, Judge, you also weren't the first choice.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow, that's a close one. Was a Rod busy? I mean, it's on Fox, right?

[Stugotz]

What else are the highlights that involve the pomp and involve the circumstance? Finally, Donald Trump is going to get a peace award. Correct.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're just not going to let Tom talk on any of this. Tom, you Want to talk about Trump's Peace Award?

[Chris Cody]

Not particularly.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.

[Stugotz]

Lot of fun sports stuff going on this weekend. Beginning today. I was going to say at noon, but a little after that with Battle Court and the Cyclones. Hold on, we'll get to that in a second. We've got a lot going on this weekend. We've got four football games that people are going to be interested. Colts, Jags, Bears, Packers, Texans, Chiefs, Steelers, Ravens. We have Inter Miami playing for the championship. We've got the World cup draw. We've got. Jeremy. Tash, what are you doing on the Heat broadcast? Is this some sort of promotion? Jeremy, is someone out sick? What's happening here?

[Chris Cody]

I mean.

[Tony]

Yeah, Jeremy, what are you doing on the broadcast? I'm a courtside reporter.

[Chris Cody]

If somebody else sick, they called you. I do that like.

[Stugotz]

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I wasn't familiar with your game. My bad. The Cyclones are playing a matinee. A matinee today closed to the public. Although I saw Tony invited earlier today and Tony declined the invitation.

[Chris Cody]

I'm declined, Dan.

[Dan Le Batard]

I got my Battle Court shirt on right now. I'm very excited, Very ready. Yeah. You did decline. We asked you, hey, you want to come? And you're like, I got a thing.

[Chris Cody]

What time's it at?

[Dan Le Batard]

2:30Pm Eastern.

[Tony]

We got the like Texans, Bengals, Saturday.

[Dan Le Batard]

4:30 window, which is an insult because we're playing the Warriors. We're the top seed and as you know, Dan, this is Battle Court's oldest rivalry.

[Stugotz]

I don't understand how the playoffs work in your sport. Chris, can you help me understand how the playoffs work?

[Tony]

You know what, the players are here to explain it to you. Take it away fellas.

[Stugotz]

How the 4 21st playoff works.

[Chris Cody]

The top four team will meet a.

[Tony]

Face off to secure a spot in the championship.

[Chris Cody]

The top seated team will face the 4th SE team.

[Stugotz]

The 2nd seeded team will face off with the 3rd seeded team.

[Chris Cody]

All matches are doubles for the playoffs.

[Dan Le Batard]

In guests of a tie, the ICD.

[Chris Cody]

Teams get to pick a double space.

[Stugotz]

To go to a tiebreaker.

[Chris Cody]

Where it's a single set where the first of.

[Dan Le Batard]

Six advances to the championship.

[Stugotz]

Who are you hoping to see win the playoff?

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's go.

[Stugotz]

The Cyclones.

[Chris Cody]

The Davids.

The Fireballs.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Warriors.

[Stugotz]

Oh, goosebumps. The Fireballs had more energy than the Cyclones. I think we saw that together.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're conserving our energy. We have the 2:30 match.

[Stugotz]

How are you guys feeling about things? And we'll get to Tom Bogart in a second. Jeremy's brother, because he has some legitimate soccer expertise to give us on what is a big a giant soccer day. But you guys have been good owners of the Cyclones, and you haven't been this relevant in a while. You haven't been this competitive in a little bit.

[Dan Le Batard]

So we've actually been bad owners. We won the title once they added teams to the league. This is our first appearance in the playoffs since they expanded to six teams. Now, we're loyal. We have had Manu as our stalwart. He is our. He is the best backcourter in the world. And we've had a lot of bad, bad luck over the last few seasons. Right. But now we are the top seed. We are favored.

[Stugotz]

The playoffs are doubles, and he's great at doubles, and you guys are great at doubles.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Yeah. So, Lord willing, we'll punch our ticket to the Battle Court final.

[Stugotz]

I don't think the Lord cares.

[Zaslow]

That's where you. Lord willing, hopefully.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I've said two prayers in the last six months. They're for the Catholics to be sent to hell and for the Cyclones to.

[Tony]

Win Battle Match three has me nervous there. I'll say it.

[Stugotz]

I forgot to tell you, when we talk about heaven and hell and God, that the Nicholas Cage movie in which he plays Jesus. Dad, it's a horror movie. I forgot to tell you guys.

[Chris Cody]

His name is Joseph.

[Dan Le Batard]

Damn.

[Tony]

Did it again.

[Dan Le Batard]

My bad. I'm thinking about the pots earlier.

[Tony]

Cut it up.

[Stugotz]

Okay, Tom, I'm happy to have you here and your expertise because for those of you who do not know, he is America's preeminent soccer authority. And in print. In print. I don't think I could do that.

[Chris Cody]

I don't even call my dad dad.

[Tony]

Wow.

[Chris Cody]

They're like, what are we doing?

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's talk about. Let's talk about that. You confused me with dad.

[Stugotz]

The dad thing. So what's happening? Well, because not only did we rap. Rattle you. Not only did we rattle you, for some reason, the way that you decided to fix it was to say I'm still rattled from pod talk in the meaning. Which is basically something that only us know, like it's the group or pot.

[Chris Cody]

You.

[Stugotz]

You're. You know what? I've got a six.

[Chris Cody]

Geno Fudge is his fault.

[Tony]

I agree with that.

[Stugotz]

Gino. Minor penalty. Two minutes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Murdering the show with their bare hands in a dismemberment.

[Stugotz]

Kid in cold blood out.

[Chris Cody]

If I can say Gino was the.

[Stugotz]

One that threw the groups in the get out. And then.

Listen.

Tom, when I tell you that Inter Miami is playing Vancouver for the championship, we were talking about this earlier in the week. The idea, I didn't think any of this could happen quietly, that Messi could be here, that he could play this way, and that Inter Miami could be playing for a championship that I don't think Miami's exactly going to celebrate with a parade if they do win it this weekend. But can you put into context before we talk about the World cup draw today, what it means that Messi has come here and done this and how mismanaged has the selling of it been, that it's happening somewhat quietly, that this is not a national or international story. When he has grown the sport, he's done everything that's been asked of him, but yet it's happening pretty quietly.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, in the soccer world, I wouldn't call it too quietly, but definitely in the mainstream kind of American sports. Part of that is that it's behind a paywall and part of that is they haven't really promoted it that well. But on the field it's been awesome. He scored or assisted each one of the team's first 12 playoff goals. Each one he had, I believe, 22 goals or assists in like a seven game span. It is unbelievable. And I wish that we were talking about it more and talking more about the on field stuff than, hey, why is nobody caring?

[Stugotz]

I know that in sports in general, whether it's Tom Brady or LeBron James or Serena Williams or Diana Taurasi, that athletes now can play into their 40s, but can you, can you give me some historical context for Messi still being this good at this age? Because I really thought that they'd be getting a fated star, not somebody who would be, you know, either scoring or assisting their first 12 playoff goals.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, he's just an alien. There isn't real precedence for what he's doing. Obviously MLS is a lesser league than La Liga or Spain or England or France or whatever, but he's still doing this with the Argentine national team. He is still viewed as one of the very best players in the world at his age. Obviously pace and agility and like, the physical attributes matter, but it's his brain, it's his technique. While his left foot is the best of all time, I think his best ability is his intelligence of movement and his way to like camouflage himself within the action because there is nobody that you should be paying attention to more if you're a defender. And he constantly finds ways to just hide and then sprint. And it's a tap in and people are like, oh, why aren't you marking Messi? He's just so smart and I think that's his best quality.

[Stugotz]

How and why is it that he is non committal still about the World Cup? What is the logic in that? If he's playing this well, clearly he's going to play in the World cup, right?

[Chris Cody]

It's jarring to me. It's weird that he keeps saying, I don't know if I'm going to play at the World cup when at first it was, I just want to wear the crest one more time with the gold logo after winning the World Cup. And then he continues to play. He continues to be really, really great. And he still says things like, I don't know if obviously he's playing at the World Cup.

[Tony]

Is he doing what the committee's doing with Notre Dame, Miami, just like keeping us interested. If he said yes a year ago.

[Stugotz]

Then we're not asking or there'll be some big announcement. Obviously it will be a big announcement when he makes it, even if it's anti climate.

[Zaslow]

Or maybe does he like the idea that my last World cup game, we finally won the World Cup?

[Chris Cody]

Then he wouldn't be continuing to play in friendlies. They just got back from like Africa. They played Angola for no reason other than money and he's playing in that game.

[Stugotz]

We'll get to the World cup draw in a second. But I think that Zaslow at ESPN is now challenging Stephen A. Smith for hardest working man in show business. I heard his recycled Chris Paul takes on the radio last night with. With Amber. He was doing the same Chris Paul takes he did in the morning.

[Zaslow]

Whole different audience.

[Stugotz]

Dan wanted to have a new take.

[Chris Cody]

The opposite take.

[Stugotz]

No, I just wanted him to have different points. It doesn't have to be a different take.

[Zaslow]

Amber hadn't heard me say it yet.

[Stugotz]

We're doing a. Amber listens and watches our show. She had heard you say it. But also, was Mario Cristobal on with you last night?

[Zaslow]

Hell yeah.

[Stugotz]

So that's a third show. That's a. That's a third show.

[Tony]

Like 13th.

[Stugotz]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's been on Cody. He's been on Kane's Insight. He's been on Zaz. Hell yeah, Coach.

[Stugotz]

Yes. He has made the rounds. It seems clear that he does not like me or Jeremy Tash.

[Chris Cody]

It's because he's afraid of me, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

He's afraid of my logical arguments. I call them logical and strength.

[Stugotz]

I think he might be not wanting to be around General Hijinks. On our show, but it could just be that he dislikes you. What did Mario Cristobal have to say on Zaslow show?

[Zaslow]

Yeah, well, I mean, I asked him here. I wanted to know if, if the way he feels right now, if it's similar at all to last year. Because last year at this time, 10 win team on the bubble of the college football playoffs. And yeah, here he was. This is the second year in a row you're a 10 win team. You're on the bubble. Last year you guys got left out. The way you feel now, is it similar to the way you felt last year or is this year different?

[Stugotz]

Oh, it's completely different. You know, I guess the best way to explain that I felt last year. No, we lost our last game to Syracuse and we were probably battling. I think it was a 9 and 3 team. So we had a really good offense. We did not have a very good defense and we did not play our best football at the end, in fact, we were playing poor defense. I felt like it was debatable. Like there was definitely some arguments in our favor and some that I couldn't make. I couldn't say we have a complete team and we're playing our. I couldn't say that. To me, that was all right. Their best points, which are really good versus ours because we have some holes in ours. It's. It's a debate. This year it's. It's not. This is about facts being presented. And I just think that we have the best case scenario. You have a head to head same record and common opponents and statistical data showing that we are playing our absolute best football.

[Dan Le Batard]

Whose computer was that?

[Zaslow]

No, that was his.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's embarrassing.

[Chris Cody]

Zaz, you're on ESPN with that.

[Tony]

You could at least cut that out of the clip.

[Zaslow]

That was his computer. What can I do about that cut.

[Stugotz]

It out clip there? I mean, the clip was a minute 15 seconds long. It could have been a minute 14 and a half seconds. Like, why would you not just cut that out of the clip when you put it in our absolute best football?

[Dan Le Batard]

Absolute best.

[Stugotz]

That is a Flanagan's football in the background. What are our thoughts on Marcus Freeman? Are we seeing him look a little mopier these days? Does he physically look a little as.

[Tony]

You didn't get Freeman still hot as.

[Stugotz]

Hell, but mopier because he realized what is what's coming this way.

[Dan Le Batard]

If you read his body language and the players too, you could say that Notre Dame is taking their cues from their head coach and they're handling this with Class. Which. Which they are. But here's why they're handling it with class. It's because they're football guys. And I can guarantee you Mario Cristobal may be out there doing like some. Some media stuff. As I went over the air. That's a fine. Mario Cristobal would be doing some media stuff, but it would all be about Oklahoma and Alabama.

[Zaslow]

I'm embarra.

[Dan Le Batard]

Embarrassed.

[Stugotz]

All right.

[Chris Cody]

He's gotta go, dad.

[Zaslow]

He's gotta go.

[Tony]

Take him out of here.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a mistake.

[Zaslow]

Two minutes delay a show. Embarrassed.

[Dan Le Batard]

Incredibly distracting. Here we go.

[Tony]

Why do you say that to me?

[Dan Le Batard]

What I'm trying to say is, Mario Crystal ball may be out there like arguing Common opponent with Alabama. We beat FSU might be arguing. Look at all the metrics. We're much better than Oklahoma. As bad as our defense was last year, that's as bad as their offense was. But if he lost to Notre Dame, was sitting at the same record. I guarantee you with every fiber of my being, Mario Cristobal would not be out there publicly saying that Miami deserves to be in there ahead of Notre Dame. And I can guarantee you the same for myself. I would not be doing that. I would turn my attention to that lackluster pot of SEC teams that I think is wildly overrated. But Notre Dame has. You would think that they benefited from the CFP discourse. It's actually done them wrong because they're going to wake up Sunday morning toe to toe with Miami, something that they do not want. They're the chicken heel Hollywood Hogan in the ring, throwing NWO members at Goldberg. They do not want to be side by side next to Miami because they know in competitive sports, the ultimate tiebreaker is head to head. And the CFP has done them a disservice. Because the real debate is Notre Dame, Alabama. The real debate is Notre Dame, Oklahoma. And they haven't had the opportunity to even have that debate. Nor are they prepared to have that debate because the entire discourse has been about Miami, Notre Dame.

[Tony]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard I feel like we need to normalize saying the scientific terms for.

[Chris Cody]

Organs on the air.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like if someone. Yes. You know what?

[Stugotz]

If someone takes a foul ball to.

[Dan Le Batard]

The penis, we should just say he took a foul ball to the penis. Stugats.

[Chris Cody]

That free kick hit him right in the cock.

[Dan Le Batard]

A doodle doo. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Stugotz]

I am being told two things by the producers of this show. One is that that thing with Zaslo did not go out over the air. It was just for you and Chris Cody. So you need to leave now.

[Zaslow]

Minor penalty, two minutes show.

[Stugotz]

So it was not something that everyone heard in the audience.

[Tony]

We all heard it. It was distracting to all of us. But the audience missed it.

[Dan Le Batard]

He was trying to speak to Jeremy and he did an all call. Okay, that's on the line. Well, we'll need Judge Zaz to rule out. All right.

[Stugotz]

That means you get out though. The other thing that the producers are pointing out to me. That's right, the delay.

[Dan Le Batard]

You made a great point for 30 seconds. Making great points.

[Stugotz]

Nop.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nobody listened to me.

[Stugotz]

Nobody.

[Dan Le Batard]

Everybody was talking for the entire 30 seconds that I was talking.

[Chris Cody]

Because you didn't include BYU.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hey, you shut up. My. I have to listen to him.

[Stugotz]

You know what?

[Dan Le Batard]

Jack shit out.

[Stugotz]

Delay of show. Please respect the call. The other reason that I wasn't listening to you while you were talking is because the producers were also telling me the entire time, hey, the new guy looks like Nacho Libre. Like they are. They're all pointing out that he looks like Nacho Libre. And so that's why I couldn't hear what it is you were saying. So, Nacho, please tell me what it is that it means both worldwide and in America. The draw that we're about to watch today as the World cup comes to. To the United States. And I'm going to really enjoy ramping up World cup coverage as we get closer and closer to the world's biggest sporting event.

[Chris Cody]

Event. Yeah. Today's a big day. You find out the groups will learn who the United States are paired against. They are in pot A, which means they will not draw.

[Dan Le Batard]

Told you.

[Chris Cody]

They will not draw. Argentina, France, the best teams in the world. You get one team per pot, and we'll find out the other three opponents for the United States and obviously everybody else. Except kind of. There are still playoffs going on. So the pot 4. What is air quote, the worst you could get? Italy, if they do qualify throughout UEFA's playoffs. So it's gonna be a big day. We'll know where the games are, we'll know what times all that stuff. Except for, again, the playoffs.

[Stugotz]

Do you enjoy today?

[Dan Le Batard]

You don't A little bit.

[Chris Cody]

Not even a little bit. The. This is the pomp and circumstance with FIFA. I hate it. They. They invented a peace prize award to give to Donald Trump, and I think today is gonna take, I don't know, nine hours.

[Stugotz]

So you hate that, but the world loves it, right? When you talk about. Mike was saying it's the third. Yes, they do. When he was saying it was the. The third most. It's going to be the third most viewed sporting event thing that there is.

[Tony]

Cowboys, outside of the football game.

[Stugotz]

Cowboys, Chiefs, Thanksgiving, did 52 million. It's not going to do that, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, it's going to do. Well, more than that. Well, maybe globally. Well, more than 52 million.

[Stugotz]

So you're. You're saying third largest viewing. Putting it behind what. In terms of what the numbers are. When you put it at third, I.

[Dan Le Batard]

Think you might touch a Billy on this global audience. You get out of here. I just served a penalty for some bullshit.

[Chris Cody]

You get out of here.

[Zaslow]

How about you push through? And someone's.

[Dan Le Batard]

I did.

[Zaslow]

I thought you could be a little bit professional.

[Dan Le Batard]

Talk to me how to be a pro.

[Zaslow]

I'm just being a pro. Push through, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

Being a pro.

[Zaslow]

Keep the show moving.

[Stugotz]

Zaslow was a pro yesterday on our show. He was a pro on ESPN Radio. He was a pro on his show. Zaslow is working very hard these days, giving his opinion everywhere. What else did Mario Cristobal have to say to you. Because I wish you'd been in here when Mike was making the point that Mario Cristobal, he guaranteed it with every fiber of his being. Not some of the fib, not a percentage of the fibers, all of the fibers in his entire being. He guaranteed that Mario Cristobal would not be out here making the rounds like this if he had lost to Notre Dame.

[Zaslow]

I thought that was. I think Mike's right because Cristobal said the exact same thing to me. And I thought that was super interesting and I thought it was classy and because I said to him, I don't remember you campaigning like this last year. And then he specifically told me that's because I was raised the right way.

[Stugotz]

Way.

[Dan Le Batard]

He knows he has a good hand. And I think people are going to be shocked tomorrow when they tune in on Saturday morning and they realize this discourse that has been kicked down the road is going to totally flip on Notre Dame. You're going to have Nick Saban, you're going to have Greg McElroy, you're going to have Kirk Herbstreet. You're going to have pretty much everybody unified in acknowledging the most obvious thing. It's not a hot take. If you lost a game to a team with the same record, the team you lost to is ahead of you and they are all going to come out in uniform in consensus and they are all going to be arguing for Miami ahead of Notre Dame.

[Stugotz]

You meant unison, right? Because now you've got them in uniform. It works well. But I have them in Catholics as well. In Catholics here.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know, my relationship with today's show. Not great. Everybody's being a real asshole except for Tom. Wait a minute. And Roy, thank you. I was listening to when you were talking about Miami. Me. You're fine. Thank you. So just me then. Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Can you explain, Tom, what you expect to happen and who's gonna be in our group? Inter. Miami. No, no, no.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to predict the ping pong.

[Stugotz]

No, no, no.

[Tony]

Who are we trying to avoid in B?

[Stugotz]

I want to talk about inter. We've got.

[Dan Le Batard]

What do we want?

[Stugotz]

And be a final on Saturday for a championship in Miami. And while I might not have the interest of the room, the entirety of the room, every fiber of the being of the room. I do know that there are a lot of South Floridians. They might not be Americans, they might not be here born in this country.

[Dan Le Batard]

But no one's going to actually watch this final in terms of like common sports fan. Right. Maybe. Maybe some casuals go find this game on network Fox. But if Inter Miami win this game, there is going to be a parade. There will be and maybe some of you might be Pasha. Parade? Why? Where is this parade going to be? By Chase Stadium, by the old Boomers location. It would be the biggest parade in the history of South Florida sports.

[Stugotz]

I am curious as to what is going to happen on Monday if Inter Miami wins on Saturday. But what I was asking Tom, not just for prediction because I don't know who he favors or why but. But is it good for the sport if Messi and Inter Miami win? Is it better for the sport if Messi and Inter Miami win?

[Chris Cody]

It's good that they're in this game and that I'm on this show talking about this game. For Miami and Messi to get to the final, whether they win or lose, I think this is still a huge moment for mls. This is going to be the last day of Messi 1.0 in Miami. Jordi Alba, Sergio Busquets are retiring. Maybe probably Luis SUAREZ and then 2.0 starts after this. So it's either are they defending a title or are they still trying to get back over that hump. So either way I think it works for the sport.

[Tony]

It's bigger than if Vancouver wins.

[Stugotz]

Dan for America, for the sport is what I was asking. I wasn't asking Vancouver, I wasn't asking about America.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was asking Don Garber. What's bigger for you? Messi winning a championship or Vancouver or the White Caps.

[Stugotz]

What are the betting odds? Do we know who's favored Miami heavily? So okay, so Miami. It would be a disappointment, a pretty large disappointment and large upset if Vancouver ends up beating Inter Miami.

[Tony]

You think the parade if they do win would come close to what Greg Cody did in his fans parade with us?

[Dan Le Batard]

I think you're going to get people coming from out of everywhere in South Florida just to catch a glimpse of Messi.

[Zaslow]

Do you think it'll start or end at the Wendy's on commercial?

[Dan Le Batard]

There is one thing though. Despite Miami being a favorite against Vancouver, Thomas Mueller is playing for Vancouver and that is the boogeyman fool.

[Zaslow]

I don't know that fool.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well Messi knows that fool because Messi does not have much luck against Mueller head to head.

[Stugotz]

You'll forgive my ignorance here but how rare is it for a team like they the Bugaboo last year was the first round and they lose to Atlanta. This year they get through the first round. How rare is it to win the two games before the final four? One you know by the number of Goals that they've won, they've outdated, outscored their opponents as the. Things have gotten tighter.

[Chris Cody]

Definitely very rare. They have dominated everybody in this playoff run last season when they lost. That is historically the biggest upset in MLS playoff history. And this is a league that is built on chaos, that it's built on upsets and things like that. So it was a huge, huge disappointment last year. And this, this year, they've. They've gotten much better. Obviously, the goals is what everybody's going to watch, talk about, because it's Messi, but they've gotten much better defensively. They played Vancouver in May in the Champions League, essentially in Concac. Vancouver in leg one at home killed them. And then they came down to Miami. Everybody expected Miami to come back and win, and Vancouver dominated them off the pitch in this stadium. So they're much better than they were in May, particularly defensively. But that's why Vancouver have a real shot.

[Dan Le Batard]

The World cup is coming back to North America for the first time since 94, 48 teams, these giant stadiums, the whole continent turning into one massive party. I cannot wait.

[Chris Cody]

Wait.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Amin]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Amin]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

441 Power Line Road. Second down to 9. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Stugotz]

Roy, I'm worried about in general your mental health as it regards the Panthers. They've now lost five in a row at home last night. Bobrovsky was good. He was excellent. And they still lost at home five in a row at home. However, if I had told you right before the season started, they're going to have the injuries they have and they're going to be 12 and 12. They're going to be 12. 12. They're going to. They're going to be at 500. You would have taken that, wouldn't you have?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, yeah, I would have you look.

[Chris Cody]

Where we are in this last place considering who's injured.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, I would have taken that. They will get better this Season, their last place. I understand they're in last, but I just asked.

[Stugotz]

I didn't ask him about, I didn't ask him about last place. That speaks to the difficulty of the conference. I just said if I told you after 25 games they'd be 500 and Tkachuk would be out and you'd, you know, know you've got Barkov out, would you have taken a.500 record? Why are you guys in disagreement on that? I. You're just bothered by last place because.

[Zaslow]

They'Re in last and they're the lowest scoring team in the conference.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, but you know the reason for it.

[Zaslow]

Of course, but. And they're going to get Kachuk back soon. But there are still a ton of other injuries on this team. Like, yes, Matthew Tkachuk is going to help, but just Matthew Tkachuk is. It's so hard to gain ground in this league because the three point game, they're in last place. Like, I, I'm super concerned about them missing the playoffs.

[Dan Le Batard]

For reference, Matthew Kachuk spoke to reporters after his very first skate around with the team and he's like, I feel so much better today than I did during the Cup Final.

[Zaslow]

And that's exciting. It is. But again, so hard to gain ground in this league. And they're in last.

[Tony]

I mean, you went four in a row, all of a sudden you climb halfway up the East.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're not in last, by the way. Buffalo's in last.

[Tony]

Ah, Buffalo.

[Stugotz]

I'm wondering though, as we talk about this, what is the more disappointing way to not be able to defend two consecutive titles? Is it getting eliminated in the playoffs when you're healthy or just being unhealthy and having a reason that's not the team has gotten worse. You've got an explanation.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is low key. So much better than being defeated. I was so envious of how the warriors dynasty, well, even though they won afterwards, but the KD incarnation of the warriors went out because they could. Even though the Raptors, I so firmly believe, would have won that series. They get to hang their hat on Klay and KD getting hurt. And you always had that in your back pocket if you're a Warriors fan.

[Zaslow]

I agree.

[Dan Le Batard]

And no one actually took out the Florida Panthers. Injury took them out and we rebuild next year. But you could always say when you tell the story of the.

[Zaslow]

From being so banged up from all the winning.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's right. They went to three straight Stanley cup finals. I think in that instance, you do put the S on.

[Zaslow]

I like a good Excuse Dan.

[Stugotz]

So when we talk about Bobrovsky being bad this year, how much of that do we chalk up to the fact that he has had to be under the pressure of 69 playoff games?

[Zaslow]

I mean, their defense sucks three years, but.

[Stugotz]

But. Okay, but you, you, you said their defense sucks before I asked the question, which you still haven't answered.

[Zaslow]

I couldn't wait.

[Stugotz]

But you didn't answer the question, which is, he's been bad this year. But how much does that with. You've played 69 playoff games the last three years under an intensity that seems to be super pressurized, and you're the one guy who's never getting hurt.

[Dan Le Batard]

You got to imagine all, all those extra minutes that you're playing add up. I mean, Barkov, it seemed to be a fluke injury, got hurt like the second he touched the ice in preseason camp. And we know that historically you get banged up. Actually, this most recent cup final was Florida's best line luck when it came to injuries. But when you look at what troubles them specifically right now, it's goal scoring. We know that they have talented goal scorers out and the forecheck is really lacking. And it's not just Barkov, that one's obvious. But Luca Ryan and like that freak barbecue accident. He is one of the most.

[Stugotz]

What are the details there? You've mentioned a barbecue accident. He's mentioned this a couple of times now. And at this point now I need to ask follow up questions.

[Tony]

All right, fine. I had a team barbecue.

[Stugotz]

What was the barbecue accident? What do you imagine barbecue accidents look like? Because I've got an exploding grill. Got to be around the grill. Correct. Like it's not apart from the grill. If you're saying it's a barbecue accident, it has to be around where the fire and the barbecue are.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, Peter, Peter Burns had a barbecue accident.

[Stugotz]

Remember, his name is Burns and he had a barbecue accident. And I assume it has to be the grill.

[Dan Le Batard]

Lower body injury with the propane tank. This is why I don't.

[Chris Cody]

Did it explode?

[Stugotz]

Like, that has to be it.

[Tony]

I've got it being a barbecue at Eckblad's house. Ekblad's on the grill flipping a burger. Loose drainage, like 10ft away. He's got a plate with a bun on it. He's like, here you go, go.

[Chris Cody]

Coming in hot.

[Tony]

And he flips it over and it hits him right in the eye.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, he just ate too much and.

[Chris Cody]

Went to tummy ache city for a while.

[Dan Le Batard]

A.

[Stugotz]

A lower. A lower leg injury involving a propane tank suggests to me that he didn't run into the propane landmine.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, what happened. He's actually kind of lucky because it was kind of like a freaky week when it came to hockey and off ice injuries. Luke Hughes cut his finger off. Like in the kid.

[Stugotz]

Jackie.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jackie is sorry.

[Tony]

With Frank the Tank.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, like, yeah, he was. He was just chopping it up in the kitchen and he cut his finger off. True, Dan.

[Zaslow]

With Frank the Tank.

[Tony]

You know, Frank the Tank.

[Stugotz]

Was there an explosion with the propane tank? Do we know if they are basically our hockey players now? Playing through landmine explosions of the lower body.

[Dan Le Batard]

You got to be happy that Jack Hughes did that thing. Now. The. The exploding propane tank under the radar. But we miss him. Come back. E2.

[Stugotz]

The cutting off of the finger. Clearly there's no game time missed there. Right. The hockey player just continues to play through a cutoff finger.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nope, nope, nope.

[Stugotz]

No.

[Dan Le Batard]

He is out. Yeah. For a couple of months. They were able to reattach it. I don't know how. Well, how did it happen?

[Stugotz]

How did they do that?

[Chris Cody]

They say to put it in milk. That you put the finger.

[Dan Le Batard]

You put it in milk. I think you put the finger in.

[Chris Cody]

Milk and take it to the hospital.

[Dan Le Batard]

And you're like, hey, I got a thing. And they're like, hey, I always heard it was ice.

[Stugotz]

Is your finger in milk?

[Tony]

Good.

[Chris Cody]

Look it up.

[Stugotz]

Put it on the poll. Better than looking it up. Put it on the pole at Lebatard show. If you cut off your fingers, should you put it in. Should you put it in milk? I don't know if you guys saw nobody 2. I enjoyed it because I love the idea that action stars are now getting older and older and older and you can't do better than Bob Odenkirk as funny old. And it's a great action movie somehow. Even though it stars Bob Odenkirk. But there is a scene and spoiler alert, there's a scene in that movie where someone just slices off his finger. He chases it as it rolls off of a boat and then a fish eats it. I don't know. I do not know if he intended to put that in milk or not. But Tony is telling you that the way to Tony. I don't know why you have such knowledge about dismemberment things. Yeah. But you've got suspicious knowledges and suspicious areas where you just simply know how to hide things. Human heart and criminal.

[Tony]

The Internet is saying for a severed finger, you should wrap it in a moist cloth or Gauze, place it in a sealed plastic bag, and then put it in ice and rush to the er. Milk is not recommended.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not recommended. But again, who are we listening to that?

[Chris Cody]

Who is that? Gemini.

[Stugotz]

WebMD. Come on. Google AI. Okay.

[Chris Cody]

Exactly. Thank you so much.

[Stugotz]

For humans, we do not know if the milk helps the severed finger or.

[Dan Le Batard]

A little I in it.

[Tony]

I imagine if you don't have ice and the milk's cold, you know, fine.

[Dan Le Batard]

But that kind of thing.

[Tony]

I'm going.

[Chris Cody]

Nice.

[Stugotz]

Okay. I'm glad you mentioned that, and I'm glad that you've offered your particular wisdoms to this. Thank you. Zaz. I got a text last night from Nick Wright. As soon as LeBron James is. Well, I don't think you're going to be happy with what it is that he had to say, but as soon as LeBron James's streak ended, LeBron James had scored double figures in every game he had played in since 2007. And last night, he scored eight points, but he assisted on the game winner. And Nick Wright just wrote to me, ask Zaz what he thinks about how LeBron ended his streak now.

[Zaslow]

Yeah, I mean, I think that he made the type of play that he's been making his entire career, but for everyone to say that he. He. He chose to win the game instead of get his streak. He didn't get a streak. He was 4 for 17. All right, like, that's why he didn't get the streak, not because he chose to do the unsolved.

[Stugotz]

What I sent Nick Wright as response was something that you texted me as soon as the streak ended, which is, lebron streak is over. Dan. He definitely wanted that shot to miss at the end and go into overt time. And then Nick Wright just wrote back, he's an all time dope.

[Dan Le Batard]

Talk about me, about Zaz.

[Chris Cody]

He called you a sucker.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait, Zaz is the dope, yo.

[Stugotz]

He's an all time dope. I'll.

[Zaslow]

I'll apologize to Nick right. Right here. All right? Because maybe he's off his rocker now since I owned him a couple days ago on the show. So you know what? I'm not even going to take offense that he may be reeling based on. On me dominating him in that debate.

[Stugotz]

So here is LeBron talking after the game about. And no one asked him the question, were you hoping that the game winner wouldn't go in so that you go into overtime? No one asked him that, by the.

[Zaslow]

Way, because we all know the answer.

[Stugotz]

It is a. It is a really funny, silly thing that we do with numbers. Because LeBron's streak of scoring eight points in a game since 2007 is still in play like that. That's still. That's still alive. But because the 10 points is no longer alive, LeBron is asked, and this is what he says after the game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now that the streak has ended for you, what feelings did you have, if any?

None.

[Stugotz]

We won.

[Zaslow]

Is there an honest bone in his.

[Stugotz]

Body, A fiber in his being? An honest fiber in his being?

[Zaslow]

Dan, He. He remained. The last game he played, he was in the game in the fourth quarter, down by 26 to keep the streak going. Like, is there an honest bone in his body?

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm going to hold your feet to the propane tank here. Do you think he's fallen off like he is? Is this, like, Jeter's last season all star till 50? Is it?

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Because, like, Nick Wright's calling you a dope when that guy said he'd be an All Star at the age of 50 and that. That's aging like the milk we're putting a disembodied finger in.

[Stugotz]

Yes.

[Zaslow]

I think. I think we're seeing the beginning of the end. Not that I think he's going to retire this year, because I think LeBron is going to announce a farewell farewell tour, which I think will last multiple years. All right? One year of giving LeBron presence and flowers every time he goes to your buildings on Enough. I think it'll be two years, but I do think that we're seeing the beginning of the end.

[Tony]

This has to be the worst take of the year by Nick.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right.

[Tony]

Like, if we're looking back at this entire year of shows saying LeBron would be an All Star at 50, and then what he's done so far.

[Zaslow]

Don't be too hard on him. He's shook based on what I did.

[Stugotz]

But just wait a minute, all right? Because worst take of the year when it comes. You say worst take of the year, but when it comes to nominating, most obvious take of the day, really, it's the beginning. Beginning of the end for LeBron. This is 23rd season.

[Tony]

He said till 50.

[Chris Cody]

We didn't say. We didn't make him say that.

[Dan Le Batard]

At least he had the courage to answer the question.

[Stugotz]

Dan, he's the oldest player in the league. Like, what do you mean? It's. Of course it's the beginning of the end. It's been the beginning of the end. It should have been the beginning of the end ten years ago, but it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Never felt like it. But now it feels like it like.

[Tony]

We started feeling like it as soon.

[Zaslow]

As Nick said that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, we. We haven't seen him, like, let me sit out for a month because my back hurts. Let me throw up a 4 for 17. As one of the most efficient basketball players in the history of the game. I don't recognize that guy.

[Stugotz]

He's got sciatica gout. Leprosy.

[Chris Cody]

Right. Then don't say he'll be an all.

[Tony]

Star till 50 like you're proving our point about dumb.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was. He literally gave a quote. Like, when you wake up this age, something new hurts every day. You're not making it till 50.

[Chris Cody]

No, I think they're just building this offense around Luka. I think what LeBron needs is a wide open offense where everybody shares the ball and there's lots of body movement.

[Tony]

Can always tell when you're doing anyone else involved?

[Dan Le Batard]

Hey, I'm with him on this thing. Yeah, it's true. I would. I would take him today also. That streak should have ended in 2011.

[Chris Cody]

In the NBA Finals, but that doesn't count.

[Stugotz]

Chris, you're so right about Jeremy. He's like your dad.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's got.

[Stugotz]

You could tell first if you think.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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