Local Hour: Tyreek Hill, Jimmy Butler, and the New Year In South Florida

Summary

Summary of "Local Hour: Tyreek Hill, Jimmy Butler, and the New Year In South Florida"

Episode Overview

In the January 6, 2025 episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz," hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz delve deep into the tumultuous landscape of South Florida sports. The discussion centers around the Miami Dolphins' disappointing season, the uncertainty surrounding Tyreek Hill's future, and the ongoing challenges faced by Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat. Additionally, the hosts touch upon broader issues of sports management and fan dissatisfaction within the region.

Miami Dolphins' Season Performance

The episode kicks off with a critical analysis of the Miami Dolphins' recent season. Despite having one of the best defenses in the league, the team failed to secure a playoff victory in eight years, leading to widespread frustration among fans and critics alike.

Dan Le Batard (00:41) remarks:

"They certainly wasted what I told you yesterday was the third. The defense that ranked third in the sport going into the game yesterday is the best defense the Dolphins have had in 22 years."

Mike Ryan (05:04) adds to the critique:

"I don't think anyone thinks the Dolphins are the Bill or the Chiefs, but I think if TUA played the whole season, are they not the Texans and the Chargers?"

Leadership and Management Issues

A significant portion of the discussion highlights the shortcomings of the Dolphins' management, particularly targeting General Manager Chris Greer. The team's inability to develop a reliable backup quarterback and poor strategic decisions have been pinpointed as major factors contributing to their underperformance.

Billy Gill (28:03) comments:

"Yeah, but it's uncommon for a guy to be a GM of a team for eight years, not win a playoff game, and still have a job."

In defense, Chris Cody (27:06) suggests that unforeseeable injuries played a more substantial role than management’s failings:

"The season got undone by the thing we were fearing for years would undo the season, which was an injury to a fragile quarterback."

Tyreek Hill's Future with the Miami Dolphins

Tyreek Hill's potential departure from the Dolphins is another focal point. Hill's season was marred by injuries, including a knee and wrist procedure, limiting his impact on the field and fueling speculation about his future with the team.

Stugotz (03:13) questions Hill's commitment:

"Tyreek Kill, are you in or you out? Make a decision."

Further emphasizing the issue, Stugotz (27:06) muses:

"If every star wants to leave Miami and I don't, you know, is it us? Maybe it's us."

Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat

The conversation shifts to the Miami Heat, where Jimmy Butler's relationship with management, led by Pat Riley, is under scrutiny. Butler's status as an overachiever who has reached his performance ceiling within the team highlights deeper issues in organizational support and player management.

Dan Le Batard (14:32) critiques Riley's handling of Butler:

"Pat Riley has failed over the last decade in a way that cannot be argued, to get Jimmy Butler the better help that he needed."

Butler's quest for a new contract and his growing discontent have intensified tensions, potentially leading to significant changes within the Heat's roster and management strategies.

Local Sports Highlights and Issues

Beyond the Dolphins and Heat, the hosts touch upon other South Florida sports developments, including the resignation of the University of Miami’s basketball coach and Tyreek Hill’s public comments about being traded. These topics serve to underscore the broader instability and leadership challenges facing South Florida sports teams.

At [27:06], the dialogue emphasizes:

"If every star wants to leave Miami and I don't, you know, is it us? Maybe it's us."

Fan Discontent and Expectations

A recurring theme throughout the episode is the growing disillusionment among fans. The Dolphins' inability to meet high expectations, combined with leadership failures, has left the fan base eager for accountability and change.

Dan Le Batard (33:09) encapsulates this sentiment:

"You cannot have another year of McDaniel end with this and not have a fan base that has not had a playoff victory this century since Lamar Smith in 2001."

Chris Cody (28:12) offers a more measured perspective, suggesting that the season's failures were not solely due to management but also a series of unfortunate events:

"The season got undone by the thing we were fearing for years would undo the season, which was an injury to a fragile quarterback."

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with a consensus that South Florida sports franchises are at a critical juncture. The Dolphins and Heat, in particular, face pivotal decisions that will shape their futures and either restore or further erode fan trust and support. The hosts emphasize the need for strong leadership, strategic planning, and accountability to navigate the challenges ahead and revive the region's storied sports legacy.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Dan Le Batard (00:41):

  "They certainly wasted what I told you yesterday was the third. The defense that ranked third in the sport going into the game yesterday is the best defense the Dolphins have had in 22 years."

• Stugotz (03:13):

  "Tyreek Kill, are you in or you out? Make a decision. Enough with these cryptic."

• Billy Gill (28:03):

  "Yeah, but it's uncommon for a guy to be a GM of a team for eight years, not win a playoff game, and still have a job."

• Dan Le Batard (14:32):

  "Pat Riley has failed over the last decade in a way that cannot be argued, to get Jimmy Butler the better help that he needed."

• Chris Cody (28:12):

  "The season got undone by the thing we were fearing for years would undo the season, which was an injury to a fragile quarterback."

This comprehensive summary encapsulates the critical discussions from the episode, providing a clear and engaging overview for those who haven't listened to the podcast.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

Goddamn right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Billy, how are you doing today? You've done a lot of work over the last few days. You were working harder than anybody on God bless football. Football never stops. How are you feeling today? You're still wearing the Dolphin hat from yesterday. And I would think that your allegiances. Chris Cody is too. I would think that your allegiances are in disrepair today.

[Stugotz]

Disrepair is making it seem like it's irreparable. Right? Disrepair.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think it can be repaired, but at the moment, in disrepair, it is in need of repair. I would think that your emotional fandom is in need of repair.

[Stugotz]

I Could have done with. I could have done with a day or two of making Chris Greer and Mike McDaniel feel like there is a little bit of. Little bit of heat on their seat. You know what I mean? As the people say, like, let's. Let's make them sweat a little bit, not just immediately like, we thought about it, everything's fine. We're gonna do the exact same thing next year. Let's run it back. This was a great season. I could have done without that. Also. Tyree Kill, are you in or you out? Make a decision. Enough with these cryptic. I guess yesterday was the first time that we actually had like the first video.

[Chris Cody]

Wait, Matt. Like, are you in? Are you. Was it subtle yesterday?

[Stugotz]

Because this is. This is how it works. This is how it works with him. We tweet something and it's like, no, no, no, I meant this other thing. And then I'll tweet something else. Like, no, I meant this other thing. I was just, you know, I really wanted to wish the Chiefs a happy new year. And then next year he seems to just be thinking out loud, like, I think I got to get out of here. By the way, some people been saying that he's washed. Not gonna say who was. Some people have said that, but like, also, like, if you want to go, don't let the door hit you where the good Lord splits you. You know what I mean?

[Dan Le Batard]

Little bit of a difference between the management and strategy of how Jimmy Butler gets out of town and how Tyreek Hill does it. Just a general management difference.

[Chris Cody]

Well, Tyreek just does everything fast. Jimmy, this was very clearly. Well, no, that's the thing I want to ask you guys. He's also not as good this year, right? He wasn't. And there might be reasons for that. And I'm not saying that he can't be as good as he was like two years ago again, but I mean, it seemed like a pretty clear drop off. This is a strange.

[Dan Le Batard]

He didn't have a thousand yard season like that.

[Chris Cody]

He didn't look like the same kind of threat, but he's still talking about himself like he's the same kind of threat. And I understand, like, he's probably going to play for six more seasons and for three more teams because that kind of speed straight line is still such a valuable commodity.

[Stugotz]

I mean, he dealt with, with various injuries throughout the season. He had his knee procedure that we learned about and he had his wrist that needed to be repaired. He needs surgery on his wrist. I mean, there's lots of reasons why the Dolphins season went off the rails this year. Two of not playing. The majority of it was part of it. But also Tyreek Hill was not Tyreek Hill. Jalen Waddle dealt with injuries. You lost a lot of people on the defensive end. That's why I think the news almost immediately after the game that everyone's safe, we're just going to do the exact same thing next year was not something that the fan base wanted to hear.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't think anyone thinks the Dolphins are the Bill or the Chiefs, but I think if TUA played the whole season, are they not the Texans and the Chargers?

[Stugotz]

Well, you don't want to be Texans today. The Texans suck.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm just saying we are. I think if 2 is healthy the whole season, we're an easily a playoff team. They are. You could make the argument that they're.

[Stugotz]

Close, but close to what? I guess is the question, right? Like what are the Dolphins close to?

[Billy Gill]

Because to being the Texans.

[Stugotz]

That's not what you want, right? Like an argument can be made that they wasted this window.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes. They certainly wasted what I told you yesterday was the third. The defense that ranked third in the sport going into the game yesterday is the best defense the Dolphins have had in 22 years. That's 22 years they haven't had a defense that plays this well. They have no running game. You can't have that today. We'll get to all of the minutia there in a second because we got plenty to talk about. Chris Greer being safe. Most general managers, eight years, you don't win a playoff game. You. You don't have any Pro Bowlers this year. That's not safe.

[Stugotz]

And you wasted the best kicker in the league.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, we'll get to that in a second as well. We've got a picture of Billy Gill with Jason Sanders that we want to show you. Let's just get started. Let's go. Let's go.

[Stugotz]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the StuGats podcast.

[Dan Le Batard]

The first week that we were off. Over the last two weeks, some of the following happened locally. This is just some of it. The University of Miami's basketball coach stepped down. Tyreek Hill posted the Chargers as his co favorite to trade for him. That was at the beginning of this. TUA out for a couple of games. Pretty important games. Everyone got mad at both me and Mike and that and Cam Ward. Cam McCormick. A legendary run at UM is over after nine years. Tyler Herro got ragdolled by the Houston Rockets in what wasn't a Fight. But you never see an NBA player thrown like that unless he weighs 160 pounds. Jimmy Butler said he preferred a trade. Pat Riley said there will be no trade. Pat Riley got checkmated. We've watched 14 years of how Pat Riley loses power to the player we've watched. Or 10 years of it, I guess, is what we would say. Right. Since LeBron left him in Vegas, it's gone poorly for Pat Riley when it comes to player acquisition. And also the University of Miami fired its defensive coordinator. And Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald is going after Jimmy Butler's camp. Spin the wheel Chris Cody, because we've got a lot of local issues to get to.

[Jessica]

I'm celebrating a holiday today.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes. Happy January 6th. I love female Jose Gacky like we need. We need more.

[Chris Cody]

Remember, this is a man's job.

[Dan Le Batard]

In the corner of the screen you will see Billy Gill with Jason Sanders. A clear kinship partnership. Soul mates.

[Stugotz]

What a guy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Covered each other. And now Billy says that Jason Sanders is the best kicker in the league. They wasted a great Jason Sanders season.

[Stugotz]

I mean, Pro bowl snub if I've ever seen one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's go ahead and. Oh, Andrew Van Gingell made the Pro Bowl.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. Yeah. But he dropped that interception last night. That really kind of ended the Viking season.

[Dan Le Batard]

I wish there were a bet, a prop bet I can make on DraftKings. Will Andrew Van Ginkel touch a football during play today? I would make that bet because it's. We. It's weird how often he's around the football. I don't understand. I don't understand it. It would be just as confusing to me if he did it on a stallion with it with flowing hair. Two players in the league, I imagine, playing on a stallion. Him and Trevor Lawrence.

[Billy Gill]

Huh.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to talk, though, at some point. Don't. Don't let me leave here without talking to my father today, calling him up and getting to talk about that mutant Frankenstein McBride who plays tight end for the Cardinals, who I saw yesterday jump up in a way that his knee almost touched his ear and his knee was above the head of somebody, a linebacker who he stiff armed with his hip because we're just making just these weird mutants at tight end where Brock Bowers is the best tight end in ever in receptions, according to Gronk. Gronk is saying that's gonna be the best tight end ever. But let's go ahead and spin the wheel here on local issues.

[Billy Gill]

So all of those issues are on the wheel, you're saying?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes. Including your dad Everything, everything is on the wheel. And also Billy and Stugach just finished God Bless Football. It will be out shortly. Please, Billy, if Stugatz recycles any takes, I need you to keep I an eye on this because I want his fresh and his best stuff here. I don't want the recycled God Bless Football stuff. That's great over there. It's an award winning show at least in part because he, he does that over there.

[Stugotz]

It can be again, by the way, if you go to sportspodcastgroup.com you can vote for God Bless Football. Best American Football podcast. I believe this is the last week of voting, so we'd appreciate your vote. Also, I would ask two guys to check me if I repeat any takes as well because as you mentioned, we did a lot of streaming yesterday and then this morning. So I think I've observed everything so far in football. I don't know if there's any more observations to be had.

[Billy Gill]

This is the first time I've heard your love of Jason Sanders. So you're good so far.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, you are bringing the fresh stuff here, but people have been getting a lot of the duke the last 24 hours and I need to spin the wheel here and you guys tell me I can't see so well. So you guys tell me what it lands on. Please do, guys. Whoa.

[Billy Gill]

It landed on the Kansas City Chiefs. Dan, I am telling you, this is the year to get the Kansas City Chiefs. You know what they did yesterday, Dan? They did what champions don't do. They told the entire league. They told everyone. You know what? We're scared of Joe Burrow. We don't want Joe Burrow in the playoffs.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why?

[Billy Gill]

Because Joe Burrow is a guy who will walk into Arrowhead and he will beat the Kansas City Chiefs.

[Mike Ryan]

Stukat's major penalty. Five minutes.

[Billy Gill]

I'm not done yet. I'll get there. Trey Wingo has told me this story no fewer than a dozen times that last year Patrick Mahomes woke up on his way to work, he called his wife and he said, you know what? I've decided the Kansas City Chiefs are going to win the super bowl this year. And you know what I did this morning, Dan? I drove into work and I called my wife Abby, and I told her, abby, I've decided the Kansas are not going to win the super bowl this year. How about that? This is the year to get them.

[Stugotz]

They're scared.

[Dan Le Batard]

What just happened? Stugats has had two weeks off. That wasn't on the wheel. I clearly said what was on the Wheel. That was not on the wheel.

[Stugotz]

You can see it. It's covered.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jessica, can you tell the people what it says on the board behind me, please?

[Jessica]

It says, actually, we. We just spun again back here. You didn't hear it? It says the Pop Tart Bowl. Actually, that's. Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jessica, I don't know what show you're doing. I asked you, actually.

[Chris Cody]

Pop Tarts.

[Jessica]

That's my bad.

[Dan Le Batard]

Got a minor pen.

[Mike Ryan]

Two minutes for Rooney comedy.

[Chris Cody]

I learned during that broadcast that there's actually no such thing as a Pop Tart. If you get just one Pop Tarts, it's still a Pop Tarts.

[Jessica]

What? What?

[Mike Ryan]

That's crazy.

[Chris Cody]

That's what the broadcaster said.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jessica, I need you to leave, please. Thank you.

[Jessica]

But it was kind of funny.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, thank you for telling us that. I appreciate you telling us it was kind of funny. It's not what I asked you. And what's behind me, I believe to be funnier than that. Because I wanted you, gringa, to explain to people what it says behind me. Because the graphics and the video, people are wishing. It looks like they're wishing everyone a Happy New Year, which it's too late to be doing that. We've agreed on that. But also what they're actually doing is they're wishing people, I'm pretty sure, a Happy New anus. I think Anno, if you don't put the. What is that called? The enya is called the what? It's called.

[Chris Cody]

I always thought it was called an enye.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan, how do you spell enye? Is it a tilde? Like if you were explaining in the.

[Chris Cody]

Alphabet, Enye is its own letter.

[Stugotz]

I got this, like, squiggly thing.

[Mike Ryan]

The squiggly thing above the N, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, you need it.

[Stugotz]

Nailed it.

[Dan Le Batard]

We need the squiggly thing, but we just misspelled it.

[Chris Cody]

The N and Enye are two different letters.

[Stugotz]

It's hard. It's like one of those alt164 situations. Which alt is it? I don't know.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know either. Put it on the poll at Levitar show. Juju, do you know where the tilde or the Enye is on the keyboard?

[Chris Cody]

Well, I'm just saying it's a different letter. It might as well be a Z.

[Mike Ryan]

So we're saying Happy New Anus.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think anno is. Is anno not anus in Spanish. I think anno is. Is anus in Spanish, I believe. Roy, Roy, please look that up for us. Thank you for. For doing so. Can you spin the wheel again, please? Spin the wheel so that I can. Chris, what's on the wheel? Where did it land?

[Mike Ryan]

Heat fans thinking they could change Jimmy Butler.

[Dan Le Batard]

I really didn't say that either, but.

[Mike Ryan]

That'S just my hot take. You can talk Jimmy Butler, though. That's what it landed o Big Wheel. It's just. I mean, Jimmy Butler. How many marriages is this? And we thought we were the one that could change him. I mean, this is Heat fans just thinking that the culture and everything. I mean, Jimmy is who he thought he was.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, hold on a second. So you mentioned marriage. The number one reason for divorce is money. It's finances. It's the number one reason people get divorced. The number one reason that people go from loving to hating is divorce. From love to hate. I will get to the macro criticisms that everyone wants of Pat Riley. He has absolutely failed over the last decade in a way that cannot be argued, to get Jimmy Butler better help that he needed. He has been cursed by the fact, and Jimmy Butler was, too. They're very good at making overachievers, but what do overachievers do? They achieve to the maximum of what their ceiling is. And Jimmy Butler's was never better than it was here. It was a spectacular relationship. It worked while it lasted. Jimmy Butler bailed Pat Riley out of Whiteside and waiters. I mean, of Whiteside and waiters. Jimmy Butler covered a lot of shit over the last five years for the Heat. Spoelster covered a lot of shit for the Heat. But also, Jimmy Butler was the best Jimmy Butler here, and no one in the history of the heat other than LeBron has done more for themselves by virtue of coming through the land of overachievers. When you carry Max Stru and Vincent to the Finals, you get rewarded for that. So we will get to the criticism of the moment because I know he fans are mad, and they should be, because they've been passed in the conference by a whole bunch of people who are more aggressive. And we all saw how close Boston, Miami were. We saw the changes Boston made, and we've seen Kyle Lowry. We've seen very little since Chris Bosh had to leave the team other than getting Jimmy Butler. And so what ends up happening to the Miami Heat, we all know more than ever the last five years. They're great at making players better. We know it in a way that we don't really know it about any other team. Wow. I've seen for five years how they've got a bunch of overachievers, but the blessing is now the curse, because the overachievers. Look at who they are. Show me all the high draft picks, because all those players are at their ceilings. I know Bam's been terrible this year, but Tyler and Jimmy and Duncan, they're all, all of them at what is their drafted ceilings like. They're the best that they can be. They can't be any better than that. That's what the Heat do for you. Pat Riley gets credit for that. He gets credit for the culture, for SPO and all that stuff. But he has failed to get Jimmy Butler what he needed. And this is punctuational disaster at the end, because now his value is nuked and he got check baited by player empowerment, which is something that happened. Began to happen in 2014 when LeBron surprised him and left. And everything that's happened with player power since ends with Jimmy Butler being able to say, hey, Pat, BLEEP off. I've got the players union behind me. You didn't give me my extension. I've been upset about this for a while. I've been upset and I've been quiet. But now I want my money. And I understand why anyone in America who watches basketball would get mad at Jimmy Butler. What do you mean, you got no joy for basketball at this 50 million? Because you need the next 50 million. Like, what do you mean you've got no joy for basketball on a contract when you're already being paid $50 million?

[Chris Cody]

Anno with the regular N, not annual.

[Dan Le Batard]

With the inye.

[Stugotz]

Does in fact mean enos.

[Chris Cody]

One more time.

[Dan Le Batard]

Anno.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

The regular N. Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not annual.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Does in fact mean anus.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, good. So we're wishing everybody in America and on Peacock and on Sirius and on Max, we're wishing them a happy new anus. That's what we're doing.

[Mike Ryan]

Good for us.

[Stugotz]

It's nice.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

New year, new anus.

[Billy Gill]

I'd like a new anus.

[Stugotz]

I'd take one.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, go with mine.

[Stugotz]

Wanna trade yours in? Yeah, but it's one of those. You'd rather get it, you know, it's better to get a new one too early than too late. Correct.

[Chris Cody]

I liken it to, like an old baseball glove, you know, I've worn this one in.

[Mike Ryan]

This one's home.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll, please. At lebatard Show. Are you satisfied with your present anus?

[Billy Gill]

Would you like a new anus?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, that's the secondary. You can. And both things can be true. I suppose you could be satisfied with your present one and want a new one. What shouldn't be True is that the video staff is putting behind me that America should have a happy new anus when that's not what we're wishing people.

[Chris Cody]

Maybe Larynaga took that Enye with him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Spin the wheel again, please. We'll get back to Jimmy Butler. Jessica, what does it say on the wheel?

[Jessica]

It says Tyreek Hill.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, let's play the video of a rambling Tyreek Hill. Actually cut out the rambling for me and just play the end because this was strange and I don't know. Can you guys tell me what's true? Because, you know, the Internet always fools me. He missed a day of practice last week, and then on Instagram Live, he was clearly out shopping somewhere. Those things. People noticed it. Investigators noticed that Tyree Kill at least one day last week was not. Was out sick and didn't appear to be sick in public, not shopping.

[Stugotz]

I believe he was at one of the stores that he owns signing autographs.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. And this has been, it seems, ending for a while. Tyreek Hill is very useful when he's getting you 1800 yards. The other stuff becomes more problematic when it's less than a thousand yards in a season.

[Billy Gill]

I am just amazed that this. This Dolphin offense, which scored 70 points in a game, was an offense that a lot of offensive players were envious of and they wanted to play down here. And it has turned that quickly on Mike McDaniel and the Dolphins. I'm amazed by that.

[Chris Cody]

I have to issue a correction now. This information about Pop Tart versus Pop Tarts came directly from the Pop Tart bowl broadcast in which the commentators said there's no such thing as a singular Pop Tart. However, I have been texted a photo of single packaged Pop Tart being called Pop Tart with no s at the end. So either some bad information was given.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Or this is a fake doctored photo. I will continue to work.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Tyreek Hill thing is interesting for a number of reasons, but let's go ahead and play the sound. This was after him two minutes of the. It was. You couldn't have seen this coming. This was very strange, the way this played out. We're not going to play the rambling two minutes before it. But at the end, he nails the gymnastics dismount. And this is the time, incidentally. Right there is the greatest moment to interview any football player about whether he wants to quit football on the spot. The end of a season that ends with you not making the playoffs for the first time in your life, the emotions are going to leak out of him. So here he is talking about, well, I'm done in Miami.

[Tyreek Hill]

I don't even know, bro. You know, this is my first time. I haven't been in the playoffs, man. So, I mean, for me, like I said, man, I just got to do what's best for me and my family, dog. If that's here, that's where. Wherever the case may be, man, I'm. I'm finna open that door for myself, dog. As I'm opening the door, like, I'm out, bro. You know? So it was great playing here, but, you know, I. At the end of the day, bro, I gotta do what's best for, you know, for my career. And, you know, what's best, because I'm too much of a competitor to be. You know, just. Does that mean out there?

[Dan Le Batard]

Mean you're thinking about leaving here?

[Tyreek Hill]

If it is. Hey.

[Mike Ryan]

Can I just start Call. Can I just call Tyreek Hill? Not Calais Campbell. Because you see Calais Campbell, he's just, like, the best leader you could ever be, the best teammate. And it's like, yeah, when everything's good, Tyreek's fine. But as soon as anything bad happens, he's just done with the energy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, everything has been good the entirety of his career, except his behavior. I don't know what happened in yesterday's game. Is that where he learned how to check out of a game? Like, what. What happened during that game? There was some confusion. It wasn't an injury. He was. McDaniel was told he was not available.

[Mike Ryan]

Once again, just not Calais Campbell. That's what he is.

[Dan Le Batard]

That is correct much.

[Mike Ryan]

Just immature. Just. God, I just. Sorry. I hated that sound. I just hate everything about that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, this is. This is how bad seasons end. This is how bad marriage is. And this is what's happening in this town at the moment. And it looks. Look, there's a leadership problem in town around sports, okay?

[Chris Cody]

Paul Maurice is still here.

[Stugotz]

If every star wants to leave Miami and I don't, you know, is it us? Maybe it's us. If we're the common denominator here, maybe it's us.

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[Billy Gill]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Mike Ryan]

Don LeBatard all right, we Gotta go back out there. That was big. Wake him up.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, he doesn't want. He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that. As a result, he needs something that happened.

[Mike Ryan]

You can see him, Mother. Eff. Can we bother? Are we bothering you right now?

[Dan Le Batard]

Turn on your microphone. My microphone's on st.

[Mike Ryan]

Paint the scene.

[Dan Le Batard]

The paint the scene is. I got to go to work. Good night.

[Stugotz]

This is the Dan lebatar show with the stugats.

[Billy Gill]

To Chris's point, he's right about Tariq Hill. This is the first adversity he's had to go through as an NFL player. He's been on great teams. He was on the Chiefs. He was on a great offense with a Dolphins for the first couple of years on the field, and his numbers have been great. But the second it goes the other way on the team and on Tariq Hill, he wants outs.

[Chris Cody]

A friendly reminder. Gustav Forsling and Samson Reinhart took discounts.

[Jessica]

Yeah, but Lucy, Jimmy Butler and Tyreek.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hill, we have a leadership problem in sports across South Florida. So Larenaga is out. He got chewed up at the end. All of this momentum, it usually doesn't dissipate that fast. That was sort of shocking to see. See how quickly all of that happened to Laraniega when they had the hardest thing, the hardest thing. You get to the Final four. That's the springboard. Go. Go now. And then it just collapses. They were terrible. They lost a Charleston Southern at home last year by 25. Truly terrible. And he doesn't get the punctuation he wants Chris Greer. There are reports slash rumors that he's going to have. Reports, slash rumors. I don't know what's true here. Billy, do you know anything here? Chris Greer is supposed to go to another position, allegedly in the organization with the Dolphins. I don't know how real that is. It is something that's being talked about.

[Stugotz]

Well, I mean, Steven Ross put out a statement yesterday saying everybody's kind of staying in the same roles. So I think that. That they've got. If that was a thing, I think they've gone away from that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, so that's eight years now without a playoff victory. There are no Pro Bowlers on the Dolphins. Andrew Van Ginkel just made the Pro Bowl. Traded Jamar Chase, traded Laramie Tunsil, traded the possibility of. No, he didn't. He didn't trade him specifically, but something in the transactions. Forgive me, because this is a tweet I've got to look at the source. And I got too many notes after two weeks. I'll get back to what it is. That is in a second. But Chris Greer has been in that job for eight years.

[Stugotz]

Stugot in the organization for 20, working his way up as well.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, but it's. It's uncommon for a guy to be a GM of a team for eight years, not win a playoff game, and still have a job. That's uncommon.

[Chris Cody]

This is not really. I understand the disappointment of this season, but Dolphin fans love this guy. Entering the seasons, the results weren't there. And we don't have to overthink this one. The season got undone by the thing we were fearing for years would undo the season, which was an injury to a fragile quarterback. You're overthinking this one. Chris Greer, while that player is actively campaigning to leave town right now, just a season ago, was voted the best player in the NFL. Chris Greer acquired him.

[Stugotz]

But I think what the season did was it cast a spotlight on the fact that there. There was no contingency plan. And now you're moving forward. And if Tua gets hurt again, which is a very real possibility in any form, not just the concussion thing. We saw the hip thing undid him at the end of the season. What is the plan? And it seems as though they're trusting the same people to be in charge of making that plan next year. When we saw this year, there didn't seem to be a very good one.

[Mike Ryan]

We better see the best quarterback room ever next year. I don't know why we didn't see it this year. I'm with. I'm with Greer. I'm fine with Greer staying. Like, obviously, the elephant in the room is that quarterback position. Like, you screwed that up. You thought Skyler Thompson was enough to be your backup, and that was just a big fart.

[Billy Gill]

Who do you want in that room?

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Billy Gill]

Damn. We're talking quarterback. Hold on, hold on.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't want to talk Dolphins.

[Stugotz]

Did you see that? That rumor?

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on. I know what you guys want to talk about. I'm not interested in that portion of this at the moment. The portion of this I want to talk about, because Chris brought it up, they would have been a playoff team if Tua has stayed healthy. He played in a career low 11 games. Okay, so he missed six games. He's averaged four missed games per season. All the teams deep in the playoffs, their quarterbacks have stayed healthy. Right. It's a little bit of Jalen Hurts here. Might be hurt for a Little while Jordan Love might miss a game or two, but largely the playoff teams, if you look at their quarterbacks, their quarterbacks aren't missing six games. Yes, they have a fragile quarterback, but when you say that's not Chris Greer's fault. And I heard Mina and Dominique talking about this. Dominique will join us here in a little bit. The Dolphin run game is one of the worst in the league. Their offensive line continues to be a problem. McDaniel was supposed to solve that as somebody who did that as the offensive coordinator in Atlanta. When Matt Ryan became a mvp, he was supposed to bring run game with him. No matter whether it's mostert 18 touchdowns or HN or anybody that the touchdowns, it does not matter. Yeah, it's better to have McCaffrey, but from that chain, you run the football. They could not run the football at all. And so then what it's built on is Tua, can you do it in 2 seconds every time? Can you do it in 3 seconds every time? That's pretty flimsy. Like when the whole thing is built on that. It's. It's. And then go win in the cold, he's going to get hurt. You're going to miss games. You're not likely to get the buy and go win in the cold with a. With a Ferrari.

[Chris Cody]

If I may, like, that's a staple of the Shanahan off, and McDaniel's a disciple of that. His first year, we were all wondering, when is this run game going to explode? Second season it did. Third season here in Miami. It seems as though in the early part of the season, defenses adjusted to what Mike McDaniel was doing. And then Mike McDaniel, in the middle of the season, decided to change his strategy. Did a lot of interesting things with motion. All of a sudden, Janue Smith becomes the focal point of the offense. I think Mike McDaniel actually showed you a lot in terms of being able to pivot and understand the adjustments that defenses make. Also, this coaching staff knew it had a defense problem last season and they corrected it. They made a pretty strong hire last yesterday's game notwithstanding, they seem to be more solidified defensively. I do think there are good things here. The contingency plan thing is something that we were all confused by. Why'd you bring in Mike White just to let him go? It's not. I know that Tua just had his healthiest season, but this is not a question mark that simply goes away because of one season. They failed there. They took a chance. The bet blew up in their face. I don't think you fire people just because the thing that we all feared happened, might happen, did actually happen. I trust them to actually make the right corrections like they've proven they can.

[Billy Gill]

Imagine Joe Flacco on that quarterback.

[Stugotz]

I was just looking it up. Right now he's available.

[Billy Gill]

Oh. Oh my God.

[Stugotz]

And he's gonna be turning 40.

[Billy Gill]

Or Joe Milton.

[Mike Ryan]

Give me Dalton and a rookie.

[Billy Gill]

That's what I want.

[Stugotz]

Red Rifle, Dalton and a rookie.

[Mike Ryan]

I need options.

[Dan Le Batard]

Forgive me. Chris Greer selected Waddle instead of Chase is what he did. Traded Minka. Fitzpatrick, traded Laramie Tunsall. A trade that I liked. The larger point is the bottom line on eight years is zero playoff wins and another season that now has because of where the expectations were. Man, we saw this with the Browns dugouts. We lived all of this because of where the expectations were with this team. You cannot have another year of McDaniel end with this and not have a fan base that has not had a playoff vict victory this century since Lamar Smith in 2001. You cannot have all of this without the fan base wanting a place to put the blame. It can't. It can't go blameless for eight years where you used to be the winningest franchise in all of sports. You built this town and all the sports around it based on dolphin excellence. And there are two generations of people who have no familiarity with the Dolphins being any good.

[Chris Cody]

Someone needs to suffer the consequence. Sports fans, when you have a season like this that ends in disappointment, a season that you're talking super bowl before they want a pound of flesh. But I think that they do have their explanation. It was tua. It was the thing that you always feared and it undid this season. And you have to do your best to address it. Tua seems like hell bent on continuing to play. This hip injury thing is actually really concerning to me because we all know the issues that he has with concussions. But this was the actual question mark that we had about him when he entered the draft. It's why he wasn't, you know, the number one consensus pick. Like he was being discussed about when he was at Alabama's because it was a devastating injury.

[Billy Gill]

In fairness to the Dolphins, it's tough to have a backup plan when you're dealing with tua. This is fairly unprecedented, right? Like it's. Quarterbacks are going to be hesitant to come here because if stand that if two is healthy, Billy, he's going to play all 17 games. So you're coming here for what in the event that he gets concussed again and you get a chance to go.

[Dan Le Batard]

In like you in the Sam Darnold event. In the event that Sam Darnold can take a job because you're quarterback. Like, that's probability stuff. That's what Kenny Pickett did.

[Stugotz]

Like, the league is full of people that have backup plans.

[Billy Gill]

I know, but you have to be sure that you're right on that plan. Like, it's not Skyler Thompson. You have to be sure you're going to get it right if you're going to have a backup plan. For tua.

[Chris Cody]

They bet big because of their salary cap situation. They didn't want to tie any more salary cap into that room outside of T.O. and it just. They got it wrong.

[Dan Le Batard]

Guys, it can't be. The season ends and we're talking about the backup quarterback. Like, just like it. It that.

[Stugotz]

Well, that's part of why the season ended yesterday.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look, there's plenty of places to blame a thousand different things. What I'm saying to you is there's no winners talking about their backup quarterback situation right now.

[Stugotz]

Well, no, the winners are talking about the playoff games. So we don't have a playoff game to talk about.

[Dan Le Batard]

It can't be. You tell us that it has nothing to do with structure. And the most important thing in the structure is you needed a better plan at backup quarterback. That's fine. Like, it's fine as an analysis, yes. They could have won three more games and what, gotten dragged by Buffalo again? Because they can't beat Buffalo and their quarterback doesn't get hurt because he's not made of balsa wood. Their quarterback never gets hurt.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Stugotz]

What was it with the sunglasses yesterday? I mean, we're throwing out. We're throwing out some fodder for conspiracies when we're wearing sunglasses at night, when we have a history of concussion issues. Correct. And then we all of a sudden have a hip injury that, like, just appeared two weeks ago. It didn't seem like a big deal. And then all of a sudden, it's maybe a partial tear. Tear of a muscle. And if he plays and it's a full tear. But then again, we're wearing sunglasses at night because of the lighting in the stadium, which is. You're setting it up for people to assume that there was a secret concussion. Right. Like, I'm just. I'm just. I'm just gonna put out there what people were saying. That was the chatter. People were wondering, was there another concussion issue that we're just gonna say was A hip issue. Because we don't want to have that conversation again.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is a good conspiracy right here. Like, I. If you want to be just totally irresponsible on this, let's see what we can do here.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, time to throw away, doll. Journalistic credibility and get reckless. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation.

[Billy Gill]

You're good.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're good, Billy.

[Stugotz]

Oh, we're good. We're good. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just asking the. I'm just. I'm not saying anything. It's just that there was chatter out there. Maybe there's something more to this injury than what was let on. And I'm not insinuating anyone's fudging any incidents reports or any, you know, health records that's. It's unheard of in the.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait a minute. You were reckless before I played the sound concussion. And then you start.

[Billy Gill]

Well, he was reckless before. You hit the reckless sound. And then you hit the reckless sound. I understand why he's confused.

[Stugotz]

I thought you were going to add on to this situation exactly around it.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Stugotz]

He may. He may have a concussion.

[Chris Cody]

There we go.

[Stugotz]

Maybe, right? Possibly.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm. I'm pretty sure that that would break all of the rules of football and whatever it is that they're pretending to do when.

[Stugotz]

Not if you have a hipp. I mean, he has a hip injury. What is he going to do? Partially torn if he plays again? And maybe fully torn. That's what they told us. Even though they didn't tell us that, like a week ago. Right. Week ago is like, yeah, maybe he'll be.

[Dan Le Batard]

The hip did come out of nowhere, even though it didn't come out of nowhere. Because Mike's not wrong when he says it was the thing. It seems like so long ago that. That's the thing we were worried about.

[Stugotz]

The sunglasses, though, didn't cross your mind yesterday when you saw it into his defense?

[Mike Ryan]

It was 4:25 start, not nighttime.

[Stugotz]

No, but in New York it was nighttime. It's nighttime there. It was dark out. Like, the sunglasses were not because of the sun. What were they for? Fashion.

[Chris Cody]

You know, that that was.

[Mike Ryan]

They look cool.

[Chris Cody]

You know that. That was the third best jets quarterback season in franchise history.

[Billy Gill]

Yep. Saved his best for last. I mean, 28 touchdowns, 11 interceptions.

[Stugotz]

I think you could talk yourself into bringing him back next season. I already have.

[Billy Gill]

See how good he looked yesterday?

[Jessica]

Gave you just enough. Don't worry about the fact that Miami saw the score of the Broncos game and was like, whatever. That doesn't matter.

[Dan Le Batard]

He was pretty good the second half of the season.

[Billy Gill]

Really good.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not. Not terrible. He looked healthier. He looked healthier. I do want to circle back around, though, to the. To the backup quarterback thing, because I was reminded yesterday, I don't know how many of you needed this reminder that Jessica's beloved Trubisky was the backup in Buffalo and that they went out there with their backup.

[Billy Gill]

That's what Week 18 is all about, Dan. You find out where all the bad quarterbacks are playing.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, but when we're talking about physical sturdiness at the position, you realize that the Dolphins have spent 20 years trying to topple quarterbacks at the top of that division who. Who don't get hurt. Like Brady was gone for one season and they. The patriots still went 11 and five with Matt Castle. But once you get to the backup quarterback Stugach, the Chiefs aren't good without Mahomes like Wentz. You could get six games out of Winton. What do you think that's going to look like? Like they're going to fall apart. It's going to look like what you just saw in Denver because they're backups for a reason. And so I'm just dismayed by sitting here talking about the Dolphins after another one of these. When the expectations you guys dared to he dared to believe again the expectations were in a place they'll win a playoff game with the genius boy wonder coach who can turn that into a quarterback. But then you're reminded that football injures people and that in the league he's got the reputation more than any of them on it's not going to be Baker Mayfield. Like it's not going to be one. He More more. Who's second on this list of this guy's going to get hurt. Like you can't trust.

[Billy Gill]

That sounds crazy. But it might be Mahomes.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean it's not Mahomes.

[Billy Gill]

I mean Dan Baker. Baker doesn' get hurt.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stafford furthermore.

[Billy Gill]

Stafford maybe Anthony Richards. This is the year to get the Chiefs.

[Dan Le Batard]

Talking about the Chiefs indestructible.

[Chris Cody]

The year to get him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stafford's indestructible coward.

[Billy Gill]

He fakes that ankle injury every year.

[Stugotz]

He does lead the league in tweaks that he plays through and looks better after tweaking something.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think Baker Mayfield does.

[Stugotz]

Wow. Did anyone Baker Mayfield.

[Chris Cody]

You're saying Burrow gets more hurt than Baker? Baker.

[Mike Ryan]

Did anyone feel gross Yesterday watching Week 18? It was just something about it. It's like the first like 18. I'm just like I feel good watching like red zone.

[Jessica]

It was the Sunday scaries combined with some truly, you know what meaningless games.

[Mike Ryan]

That's probably what it was. Coming back to work after a two week break. I was just. Yesterday I was just like, I don't even. I don't want to be watching this, but I'm watching it. And it's just like playoff contention. All these seating. The Dolphins are in it even though there's. They have no God forsaken chance.

[Jessica]

I watched Cardinals Niners for a little bit and that was. I was like, why am I. Why am I doing this? And then I watched the end of Jets Dolphins because it was the last game on and I was like, again.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why am I doing this?

[Chris Cody]

Were you doing it because you needed 178 yards from Marvin Harrison to cash a future?

[Jessica]

No, I just needed something to occupy my eyes while I sat on the couch with a heating pad on my tummy.

[Mike Ryan]

If he was playing the Saints, Harrison would have got that. I mean, geez, just Chan Hill park over here.

[Dan Le Batard]

I am with Chris Cody on yesterday. Felt a little football gross. Put it on the Polette LeBatard show because it's all of it. You gorge college football. The hollow. God knows how much chocolate you've eaten. I've been watching you.

[Mike Ryan]

It's the 18th one of these in a row. Just like, just get me to the playoffs already. I don't need another. I'm just over Scott Hansen at this point. Just for this one. Like don't. I love Scott. I don't want like that to get. I love you, Scott.

[Stugotz]

I don't.

[Mike Ryan]

Yesterday I was just like, get away.

[Stugotz]

By the way, friendly reminder, cancel your red zone today so that you're not paying for it for six months when it's an inactive channel. Dan, did you just say that you just like watch people eat chocolate like you're like an elf on the shelf? That you just show up at people's house when they're eating chocolate, watching them?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, I've been watching you with my new anus.

[Jessica]

He did send me a picture of people like eating cookies in the kitchen a few weeks ago where they didn't know he was taking pictures of them. It was a little sketchy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Have you eaten too many cookies and too much chocolate over the last two weeks? But this is part of it. I did. And did you feel football gross yesterday? Because I'm with Chris Cody on this. I'm like, ah. Even he's AN I'm admiring McBride. I'm like, that's a 12 yard run. And he just jumped way up in the sky. And these guys are all basketball players and I don't know how any of them do anything. I shouldn't be watching this anymore. This is not healthy for me. I. This has not been a healthy two weeks.

[Mike Ryan]

I felt gross. I put it in. I put in an incentives parlay. Everyone, like all the incentives out there, hardly any of them came in. It was just a, just a gross day. Just people playing football only to make money. Mike Evans, just the love of the game.

[Stugotz]

What do you think they're doing the other seven?

[Mike Ryan]

They weren't doing it. They're not though.

[Stugotz]

They're not playing just for money.

[Mike Ryan]

Incentives though, like it felt a little gross.

[Tyreek Hill]

No.

[Jessica]

Do you know, Smith was kind of a cool story.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Mike Evans one is one of the coolest things I've ever seen involving money in sports.

[Jessica]

Yeah, I take it back. Yesterday was awesome.

[Mike Ryan]

It was a great. Saints kind of handed him that last play. But does that take away from it at all?

[Chris Cody]

Take about what should have happened on that last play because the game was enhanced and there was only one thing to do and it was a really cool way to end the game because you have the compounded emotions of we've made the playoffs, we've won this game, we've completed the comeback and we got Mike this record. But Dan has the best take.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do me a favor, please find me David Sampson so that I can just ask him what he would do in management if instead of victory formation, the game was over and they'd won the division in victory formation. The Bucks ran a play that everyone in the stadium and everyone watching knew was meant to get Mike Evans a few more yards so that he could be a Hall of fame receiver with 11 straight thousand yard seasons and hit an incentive clause with a throw that was for $3 million at the end of a one game. They should have just knelt. If you're the Saints, if you have a rivalry in the division, you've got to send all 11 men at Mike Evans. All 11 of your defenders have to. And you say I was trying to get the ball, I need to win the game. If you're not going to victory formation, me, my entire defense and we're. And we're pass interfering and we're. It's just all 11 of our men are not going to allow you to get him this nice moment.

[Stugotz]

They were doubling him like all game. Like it seemed like their mission was to cost him money the entire game. For some reason.

[Chris Cody]

And I guarantee you, even if they put all 11 guys on mike Evans.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, he was gonna try to move that one.

[Chris Cody]

Like he's still gonna find the window.

[David Sampson]

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