Local Hour: We Did A Legitimate Draft Show

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Local Hour: We Did A Legitimate Draft Show
Date: April 24, 2026

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Overview

In this episode, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the crew celebrate both making it to Friday and pulling off what they call a truly "legitimate" NFL Draft Show the night before. The hosts and guests dive deep into the emotions and drama of draft night, the Miami Dolphins’ controversial picks, the local South Florida reactions, and the broader draft landscape. Pop culture moments and nostalgic first concert memories also pop up in signature show style.

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Main Topics & Key Insights

1. Show Vibes & Setting

• The group gathers at the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, joined (remotely) by Dave Dameshek in Pittsburgh.
• The mood is celebratory after executing a true NFL Draft show, generating both local and national buzz (05:10).

Dan Le Batard (05:10): “I got legit messages from people last night, people in sports media who messaged me … and you… you’re doing a real draft show, which we did. Let's give it up for Friday and for doing a real draft. How about that?”

2. Pittsburgh Tales & What to Eat (02:00 – 04:30)

• Dave attends the draft in his hometown, bringing in local color (e.g., debating sushi in Pittsburgh: thumbs down; Primanti Bros.: thumbs up).
• Pittsburgh’s football culture is highlighted as especially invested in the draft.

Chris (03:04): “Absolutely freaking not in Pittsburgh. What body of water is nearby Pittsburgh for sushi?”
Dave (03:15): “As it happens, there are three rivers … not one with fish inside of it that you want to put inside rice.”

3. Behind the Scenes: “A Legitimate Draft Show” (04:40 – 06:10)

• The team reflects on the show’s authenticity, noting real-time reactions and surprises.
• Discussion of "scooping" draft picks, with praise for Trista and some ribbing for missing out on inside info.

Trista (05:48): “I didn’t think journalists were still, like, scooping pics like that. … I haven’t been paying attention to that the last few years. I didn’t think they were still doing that.”

4. The Miami Dolphins’ Draft Controversy (07:40 – 18:00)

Kaden Proctor over Reuben Bain

• Major fan and host frustration as the Dolphins pass on local star Reuben Bain to draft Kaden Proctor (offensive lineman).
• Brooks Austin’s real-time negative scouting report on Proctor raises alarm before the pick is even announced (09:05).
• Discussion about whether the Dolphins should have picked the local favorite to generate goodwill, especially under a new regime.

Dan Le Batard (10:00): “Every time Mike Biamonte would walk in here to make his pick, we did not know who he was going to announce. I thought that was a cool little drama.” Dave Dameshek (10:28): “What if there were side by side two great edge rushers and one of them was Reuben Bain and the other guy was … from Stanford. You have to take the local guy if you’re the new regime to, to win over the locals.” Trista (11:41): “Let me push back on that. … I actually respect the fact that he stuck to his convictions. He clearly thinks Proctor is a stud…”

Nick Saban’s Lukewarm Endorsement (15:57)

• Dan plays Nick Saban’s cautious comments regarding Proctor’s work ethic and conditioning. The clip is used to question the Dolphins’ logic for making Proctor their foundational pick.

Nick Saban (15:57): “Now, the issue with him is he's not a bad person. He’ll do whatever you ask … but when he’s not in the building, he might get a little overweight. … He's not a self starter…”

Strategic Philosophy: Fan Goodwill vs. GM Conviction

• Heated debate: Is it wiser for the new GM to win fans with a hometown pick, or stick to his scouting convictions regardless of popular sentiment?
• Dave pushes empathy and local engagement. Trista adamantly defends conviction-based, not crowd-pleasing, decision-making.

5. Second Dolphins Pick: Trading Up for Chris Johnson (38:00 – 40:45)

• The Dolphins’ front office gives up a third-rounder to move up from 30 to 27 for San Diego State CB Chris Johnson — whose value is questioned as there were ostensibly higher-rated cornerbacks available.
• Hosts debate if the Dolphins’ “reaching” for players screams organizational overconfidence or inside knowledge—or simply front office overthinking.

Dan Le Batard (39:43): “Did they outsmart themselves? Did they play themselves here by giving up a third when they could have had this guy anyway?”

Dave (39:43): “It felt to me like the Dolphins two picks indicated they were kind of like the guy in your fantasy league who covets somebody so much that they overdraft him by like three rounds... Both of the picks felt that way for the Dolphins…”

6. NFL Draft Narratives & Notable Storylines (25:11 – 27:00)

• Beyond Miami, the crew covers major national draft storylines:
  • Caleb Downs to the Cowboys as a surefire, “can’t-miss” pick at safety.
  • The Rams’ selection of Ty Simpson.
  • Unpredictability of draft order after the top pick, adding to the night’s drama.

Dan Le Batard (25:50): “It was cool though, the draft last night, because like, we knew who was going to go number one. And then after that, I was like, all right, I really have no idea what's going to happen.”

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Notable Quotes & Fun Moments

• Dan, on Michael Biamonte’s guest appearance:
  (07:45) “Michael Biamonte, legend, goosebumps, walks in here straight out of retirement. That must have been a real thrill for the viewers.”

• Chris, on the Dolphins’ O-line logjam:
  (21:57) “The Dolphins offensive line, they have a left tackle… what, second round was Patrick Paul … All right, so then let's look at like right tackle. Austin Jackson's a good player when he's healthy. Yes, yes. So he's not going to take Austin Jackson's job if Austin Jackson's healthy.”

• Dan, on draft fandom humility:
  (20:55) “But let's just remember too, though, we don't know nothing, man. You're right, Buffalo boo when we drafted Josh Allen. I watched Houston boo when they drafted J.J. White ... We just need to wait and see.”

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Pop Culture Sidebar: First Concerts & Concertgoing

(26:10 – 37:52)

• Juju raves about a recent Bruce Springsteen concert ("the boss"), its protest vibes, and ticket pricing dilemmas (26:10).
• The crew reminiscences about their first concerts, including stories about Puff Daddy/No Way Out (33:01, Chris), Al Jarreau (Roy), Spice Girls (Trista), and Rage Against the Machine/Wu Tang Clan (Dan).
• Brief digression into the endurance and variation of Bruce Springsteen and Pearl Jam live performances.
• Collective admiration for musical acts with rabid fanbases (“the Grateful Dead culture,” “30 Pearl Jam shows,” etc.).

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment Description | |---|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:15 | Show kicks off, crew introductions | | 02:00 | Dave’s Pittsburgh anecdotes and food debate | | 04:40 | Draft show pride and “legit” media reaction | | 05:48 | Draft night scoops and internal show competition | | 07:37 | Dolphins’ draft reactions (Proctor > Bain controversy) | | 08:46 | Mike Biamonte’s surprise pick announcements | | 09:05 | Brooks Austin's scouting on Kaden Proctor | | 10:28 | Fanbase goodwill vs. GM conviction debate starts | | 15:57 | Nick Saban’s comments on Proctor’s work ethic | | 18:00 | Draft philosophy wrap-up; transition to pop culture | | 26:10 | Juju’s Bruce Springsteen concert breakdown | | 33:01 | Roundtable: everyone’s first concert memories | | 38:00 | Dolphins trading up for Chris Johnson at CB | | 39:43 | Debate: “Reach picks” and Dolphins’ strategy questioned |

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Tone & Delivery

• Classic “Le Batard Show” energy: irreverent, self-deprecating, heavy with Miami-specific grievances, and real-time banter.
• Combines sports insider takes, comedic asides, and pop-culture nostalgia.
• Frequent ribbing between show regulars, with an underlying mutual respect for the audience’s passion and knowledge.

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Takeaways

• The Dolphins’ draft decisions are both questioned and defended, with significant attention given to local emotions, new management, and the risks of reaching on conviction rather than consensus.
• Night one of the draft was deemed unpredictable and compelling, both for the on-field implications and the off-field drama.
• The crew’s ability to blend pop culture, personal stories, and sports analysis is on full display, making this “real draft show” a hit among their core audience.

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Transcript

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[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast. We did it, everybody. We made it to Friday. Give it up for Friday. Give it up for Friday, everybody.

[Roy]

Miracle.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's right. We did it. It's the end of the week. The NFL draft begins last night. We got lots of playoff action. There's Stanley cup playoffs. Let's introduce everybody we have here today because we are missing a few people. We got Chris, we got Roy, we got Jimmy, we got Juju, we got Trista. And of course Dave Damachek not joining us from the west coast. He's at his mom's house. He's at his mom's house in Pittsburgh. How about. How about waking up in the Lord's time zone and doing the Friday show with us? Dave, that's a treat for you.

[Dave]

I'm on cloud nine and not just because I'm talking to you right now. It's heavenly here on the banks of the three rivers. Yes, some discord because of who the Pittsburgh Steelers drafted, but people are in. Yes, that's right. Bingo. But. But yes, just magical vibes around here for most people run around Pittsburgh Please don't bring up the Stanley cup playoffs again. And I think we'll. We'll be in. We'll be better off if we can go that way. The only thing that was thumbs down so far. My travel mates here, Lucy and Rose and Carmen.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are they staying at your mom's, too?

[Dave]

They're not at my mom's. I offered. They didn't want. They said no, which I thought was little. Rude little, but whatever. They. They made their decision. But then I said, like, let me help you decide on dinner. And they wanted to go their way. And so they went off to dinner and apparently they went out for sushi. Would you go out for sushi if you're in Pittsburgh for a couple of days? Would sushi be the direction you would go?

[Chris]

Absolutely freaking not in Pittsburgh. What body of water is nearby Pittsburgh for sushi?

[Dave]

Well, there, as it happens, there are three rivers by.

[Chris]

By the city, not one with fish inside of it that you want to put inside rice.

[Dave]

I agree with you. Yes, I agree. Well, I mean, I happen to agree with you. It wouldn't have been my first choice. I tried to take them to promonthes, but not unlike Kirk Curb street, they gave it the hi hat.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, okay, so. So permanentes is the place that you would go to eat there in Pittsburgh. Because what happens with me when I'm on the college football tour with ESPN radio and I travel every week during college football season, everyone says, oh, you're going so and so you got. You got to get the barbecue. It's like, yeah, I know, man. Like, barbecue is great everywhere. Barbecue is always good. Everyone's recommend, you got to get the barbecue. I get it. Barbecue for you. Food is awesome. So if in Pittsburgh, where. What kind of food are we getting then?

[Chris]

What was that?

[Dave]

Well, like, in New Orleans, I know where you're going as like, in New Orleans, one of the best food cities in. On the big blue marble. They do say, like, don't get pizza, you know, because that. That. That they don't do well. And that's kind of I. What I would consider sushi. Not to say there aren't a couple of decent, very spendy places in Pittsburgh to get good sushi. But you don't just randomly hit the streets and say, like, let's get the. Let's get. Let's get some nice fresh salmon. You know, you out for some good pizza. And, you know, there's a great food town, but sushi is maybe where we come up a little bit short here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Lucy looked like she really enjoyed Herself last night in Pittsburgh during the trap. I will say I want to hear from Dave. I want a firsthand account of what it was like out there for you guys. But first, I do want to say we did, like, a real draft show last night. All right? Like. Like a real legit draft show. I got messages from Pete. I got legit messages from people last night, People in sports media who messaged me last night. I tuned in to you guys, and you. You're doing a real draft show, which we did. I. Let's give it up for Friday and for doing a real draft. How about that?

[Trista]

Like, they're really talking about one person there. You know, without Brooks, I feel like.

[Chris]

I feel a little bit like a failure. I'm very peeved. Carl put me on the case to try to find the picks that were tipped. And I came in here, asked Mike Ruiz, hey, like, who should I be following? He's like, I don't think you're going to find anybody who's going to be tipping pics. And guess what? Freaking Fuentes just made me look so bad. He was two, three picks at espn. I was like, well, my. I'm out of a job.

[Trista]

I'm not going to lie. I was very impressed with us, I think. I didn't think journalists were still, like, scooping pics like that. I haven't been paying attention to that the last few years. I didn't think they were still doing that.

[Dan Le Batard]

We. We did a really, really good show. So Shout up, of course, to Juju

[Juju]

and I are feeling pretty incompetent back here. You guys are just praising what a

[John]

great show you did, and we weren't even here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, we're not naming names, you know, It' like we said, hey, you did a good job. You did a good job. You did nothing.

[Juju]

Everyone did great. Yeah, it's a really good.

[Dave]

I. I especially. I thought I was standout.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, Dave. Dave. Okay, so what was. You guys were at a bar in Pittsburgh last night, you and Lucy, who again? She looked like she had such a great time. How was the experience last night for you guys out there?

[Dave]

Shout out McFadden's. Yeah, it was a. It was a good time in there. I had a nice burger and tasty fries.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was the highlight as well.

[Dave]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I just. Listen, I'm just. I'm just letting you know what went down the picture.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. I didn't realize we were, you know, giving out our meals before we get into the crust.

[Dave]

Yeah, well, that's what I guess you thought wrong. Yeah, because that's what I just did. But beyond that, it was great. It has the vibe right now in Pittsburgh of sort of like I don't know what's going on. And it's funny, the Stanley cup playoffs are going on in the local hockey team is down.03 in the series and there are the NBA playoffs going on. I'm vaguely aware of that. I hardly really. It's. It's that thing of like what day of the week is it kind of thing. This is. This is the only thing happening right now where I sit is the NFL draft. And it really is great vibes. And I don't want to overstate, like the ultimate football city, but it is the most consequential city in all of football America. So this makes sense to finally have an NFL draft here on the banks. But yeah, just. Just magical vibes out here.

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys did a great job overall, everybody here. I thought, I thought it was really fun. It was a really fun show. Really great job. And for the viewer last night you got what you wanted because the Dolphins were a major story last night. All right. At least for us locally. So you wait like again, people messaging me. I wasn't, I wasn't watching you guys. But when the Dolphins passed on Reuben Bain, I tuned right in to see your reaction. So last night was a great show for us. Before we get to the Dolphin stuff was the highlight of the evening. Michael Biamonte, like I would imagine viewers, because we didn't say that we were having a special guest announcer of the picks. And all of a sudden when you know the Raiders pick is in, they took Mendoza, by the way. When the Raiders pick is in and Mike Biamonte legend goosebumps walks in here straight out of retirement. That must have been a real thrill for the viewers. Can. Can we get like a sample of Biamonte there for folks who. Who did not tune in live last night after the trade with the Dallas

[Dave]

Cowboys, the Miami Dolphins select Kaden Proctor,

[Mike]

The guy that Brooks identified as the.

[Sports Announcer]

The bust 354 pound bus.

[Mike]

You had Reuben Bain on the board.

[Trista]

Let's go to the historian, the only

[Sports Analyst]

guy the injury fella said, I don't want to watch any more tape. I'm disgusted by it.

[Mike]

I gotta hear.

[Sports Analyst]

I can't watch any more of this.

[Mike]

Gotta hear Greg Cody's take on this because they had Reuben Bain available there for them and they take Kate, you've gotta be me.

[Sports Analyst]

Let's go out to look at Nick Wright laughing at us. You Got to be shitting me. We've got the dolphin legendary columnist.

[Mike]

It is, it's very good.

[Sports Analyst]

Yeah, we've got the injury. Fella here, so sad, is disgusted by his tape.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was so disappointing. And look, full disclosure, I'll let you behind the curtain for a second. Every time Mike Biamonte would walk in here to make his pick, we did not know who he was going to announce. Like I thought that was a cool little drama that we added for us

[Trista]

and us being the scoop. People were tuning in like, oh, these guys are ahead. So like people were. It was really cool.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now in that instance, in that clip that we showed Mike Ryan knew that he was not going to announce Ruben Bane because Mike decided in that moment because it's Ruben Bane, because it's Hurricanes. He was given an early look to see what was about to happen. But otherwise none of us ever knew who was going to be selected. Dave.

[Dave]

Yeah, but how do we feel about pull back the curtain about Mike Ryan? Kind of sort of celebrating how funny it was that, that the Dolphins didn't take the Canes guy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, he's not a Dolphin fan. Like he doesn't care.

[Dave]

He's not. But it's still, it's still untoward. He's surrounded by Dolphins fans. He should be more empathetic. You know, by the way, I am society's greatest empath and so that's why I feel for you guys. Another one we forgot with this. It really I can't get over that they didn't take. Forget about Kaden Proctor. That element, that discussion of if he's going to pan out or not aside. What if there were side by side two great edge rushers and one of them was Reuben Bain and the other guy was, was from Stanford. You have to take the local guy if you're the new regime to, to win over the locals. You understand? You have four months until the season starts and you have two or three years before you know what Ruben Bane is as a pro football player. In the meantime, you've bought yourself. See I know I just moved down here. Dolphins fans, long suffering fans. But, but I'm with you. I'm with you spiritually and beyond. I thought that was just the loco pick of the draft, but Dave, let

[Trista]

me push back on that. Like you're actually serious that you want your GM of your team to make the decision based off what? Let me just make the fans his first pick. He finally gets the job to be the head GM somewhere and you think his first pick should be. I'm afraid. Let me just make the fans happy. I actually am going to argue like I actually respect the fact that he stuck to his convictions. He clearly thinks Proctor is a stud and obviously we don't know. I know a lot of people think he's wrong, but I actually am okay with a guy that's like, I don't care what all these mock drafts say. I have an eye. I've been at the, with the Green Bay Packers. I've probably scouted some guys that I drafted him in the fourth round. He was my guy. He was supposed to, you know what I mean? Like he, he's confident in his ability. So I'm actually okay with a guy just having conviction.

[Dave]

Well, I, I know what you're getting at with that. But of course they're intentionally tanking the season. Right. And so if you're trying to breed.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why do we keep saying that? I don't know that that's the case. I don't know that that's true. I mean they went down and they signed the most attractive free agent out there, that being Malik Willis. And they didn't sign him to this 10 year deal. They signed into a three year deal. So if you're intentionally going out to be terrible, you're throwing away a third of the contract you just gave out to a quarterback.

[Dave]

Yeah, that's what the Atlanta Falcons did a couple of years ago and now two has taken over up there. But in Atlanta. But that's basically the way it's going to play out. I felt bad immediately. Again, my empathy coming out for Malik Willis. He signs that deal and clearly then they deal away Jalen Waddle and everything else. It's seems like they intend to Ghost 2026 and if that is right. Maybe I'm wrong, Zaz, but that's my sense of things. At least you keep the locals eye on the ball a little bit. By having the Canes alumnus running around out there, you're not going to win a ton of games either way. So at least get the 2027 with the eye candy of like ah, he was great on the same field for the Canes and now he's doing it for the Finns.

[Dan Le Batard]

Chris, it's not about Miami. No, I think it does Chris. It's not about, it's not about being afraid. So let's pick the guy who is going to give us all the goodwill from the public. The point is you got two players here who are essentially who are both expected to be high picks. Why not take the guy like it's not a reach to take Ruben Bane. If anything, you would say it's a reach to take Kane Proctor. Reuben Bane probably should have been selected 4, 5, 6. I mean, when we had Nick Wright on right before the cheese pick, although it was after the cheese pick for us, it was before for him, because he was watching 15 minutes behind. He wanted Reuben Bane to be selected number six overall. He was hoping the Chiefs traded up for Reuben Bane at number six overall. It's not like it would have been a reach. I think what Dave is saying, and certainly what I'm saying is sometimes it's okay to make your customer base happy, like the entire customer base with a brand new boss. All right, John Eric Sullivan, Jeff Happley, they are the new bosses. They run. They run the operation. Now it's okay if you tell all the customers, you know what? We're gonna do something that you all like. And that would have been drafting Ruben Bane. But then on top of it, we had Brooks. I want to make sure I say his name right. Brooks Austin. We had Brooks Austin, who no ties whatsoever to the Miami Dolphins before, and he was great last night. Brooks, before the draft begins, he tells us the one guy who's expected to go kind of high in the draft, who he really dislikes, does not like the tape, Kaden Proctor. And goes in on it. You would. It was like. It was like a setup. He goes in on how this guy, he's miserable. I would never select him. And then, by the way, can we get the Nick Saban clip? So this was Saban from yesterday. Nick Saban was on with the Pat McAfee show because they were broadcasting live out there in Pittsburgh. You know, McAfee's a Pittsburgh guy. Saban's on with them all the time. Of course, Nick Saban, he recruited Kaden Proctor. He coached Kaden Proctor. And mind you, Nick Saban is generally super positive when he talks about his former players. This is before the draft. Here's Nick Saban on Kaden Proctor.

[Nick Saban]

Now, the issue with him is he's not a bad person. He'll do whatever you ask him to do once you get him in the building. But when he's not in the building, he might get a little overweight. He might not come in in the best shape. And those are the kind of things you got to manage with him. But I think they're manageable. In other words, he's not really a self starter that's going to go out there and, you know, get in great shape and come to camp like you want them, but if you can get them to come to camp, if you got them there and get them ready

[Trista]

to go, I get it. We want the Dolphins to follow Mel Kuiper's mock draft.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, it's not.

[Trista]

Bane was supposed to go there. RGM shouldn't have any conviction about how he evaluates these players.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, it's not about following the mock draft. It's not about being a sheep and following everybody else. What it's about is if, if you're a brand new general manager and you have a high first round pick, you're trying, you're setting the, and it's a rebuild. You're setting the foundation for your team, for how you want to build your franchise. And his coach here, Dave, his former coach, is telling you he's got a hard time with work ethic when you're not all over him. He's got a weight issue potentially. If he's not in the building and he's not a self motivated, he's not a self starter. Is that the guy you want to say? This is the, this is my very first building block. And I think it's fair to say, man, that's super. Question.

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[Mike]

Hey, Roy, buddy, You know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody all together in unison knows to stand up on their feet?

[Roy]

Oh, absolutely.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mike.

[Mike]

Yeah. You've been at many big time sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you take your first sip of Cuervo.

[Roy]

Oh, delicious.

[Mike]

It's the signal that says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories. Cuervo, man. It's that high five. A random stranger effect. That's right. The game is popping. You're hugging people you never met before. That's the kind of energy that Cuervo brings. It's so smooth, so delicious. That's the Cuervo effect. Keep it Cuervo.

[Dan Le Batard]

Don Lebatard. John, can you rate my Al Pacino from that billiard scene in Carlito's Way? If I do it for you, I think it's pretty good.

[Trista]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, Stugarts, you think you're big time or you're gonna die big time.

[Dave]

That is on my infamous scale of 1 to 10. That's a. That's a 7.6.

[Trista]

Solid.

[Mike]

That's a suey nominee right there.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Commercial Voice]

But let's just remember too, though, we don't know nothing, man. You're right, Buffalo boo when we drafted Josh Allen. I watched Houston boo when they drafted J.J. white yesterday. Mike said, man, when we took Joe Thomas, I was sad we didn't go Brady Quinn, you're right. So we just need to wait and see. Wait and see, like David Sampson say.

[Chris]

But I think we can all agree, as a cowboy fan who lays low, lays really low. Caleb Downs was the sure fire, can't miss guy. One of the only freshman starters that Nick Saban has had, other than really top dudes. That was just a masterclass to make that draft trade to give up two fifth round picks and then to trade with the Eagles from 20 to 23 and then get two fourth rounds back and get the same edge.

[Dan Le Batard]

Rubber Malachi Lawrence.

[Juju]

You know about that?

[Dan Le Batard]

Malachi Lawrence, Yeah. Ucf, I guess. All right, take it easy.

[Juju]

Just a couple of programs with first round picks.

[Dan Le Batard]

So then I have other questions too. When it comes to Kaden Proctor, like the Dolphins offensive line, they have a left tackle is pretty good. They drafted him last year. What second round was Patrick Paul, I think he was like, he's pretty good. Okay. Or it was two years ago. He's certainly not going to play center. All right, so then let's look at like right tackle. Austin Jackson's a good player when he's healthy. Yes, yes. So he's not going to take Austin Jackson's job if Austin Jackson's healthy. So I think they can.

[Trista]

I think Proctor can play guard.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, no, he can. He can. But they spent. And again, I know it's not this regime, but they spent a second rounder on the Samoan kid who was not any good. He was bad. Okay, so maybe they wanted to play that position. I. I say Samoan kid because, God, I don't know how to say his last name. It's. It's really hard. Um, I mean, did they just draft a guard in the first round then? Like that? That's bad, drafting a guard. Unless he's Zach Martin, unless he's the best guard in the NFL.

[Juju]

I mean, if you take a guy that was skilled as a tackle. Right. And is capable of then being able to move into that guard position, when you're trying to build an offensive line and build your team from the inside out, it does feel like, just like Chris said, if this guy can turn into, not quite Zach Martin, because that might be the greatest card that's played this entire century. But if he could be one of the three or four best guards in this league, quickly now you've built yourself an offensive line that you can build a team with from there.

[Dave]

I like the idea I'm trying to run through in my head, not just in football, but in any sport where, like Stanley Roberts from lsu, who was side by side with Shaquille o' Neal way back when. There must have been an issue down there in Baton Rouge back in the day with how good the food was as a matter of fact I guess I know the food is really good down there either way. How often do you hear about would be legends in sports as long as they don't eat themselves out of the league. That's like a bad. I'm with. I'm with Zaz. It just. It hits the ear weird in and the. The ability to say for the next three or four months like the. The storyline of like it's the dawn of a new day Dolphins fan that doesn't matter.

[Trista]

So ridiculous to take a guy so that you can win the.

[Dave]

Don't you want people if you think going to the game if, if, if.

[Trista]

If the Dolphins GM thinks Reuben Bane is not a good player. The idea that he would take him just to like win the screen.

[Dan Le Batard]

Bain's not a good player. He's dumb.

[Dave]

I mean I'm just saying that's the other thing right? What Ruben Bane's not going to work. I mean he's. He obviously went where he went for for a reason. I think though I'm trying to figure it out because we're talking a ton of Dolphins for obvious reasons here. I do think to Trista's point like America's alleged team getting Caleb Downs. I think that is to me the. The weirdest. I mean Kaden Proctor is the weirdest pick where he went if it's not from the Rams. Ty Simpson is a weird pick. That's big storyline number two. I also thought Caleb Downs in the copycat league. Everybody sees Kyle Hamilton and what a difference maker he is in Baltimore. Wouldn't you want someone who can play big nickel and and play outside if you absolutely need.

[Dan Le Batard]

I love a badass safety. I think if you got a good player safety it's such a cool, such a cool position to have a player.

[Dave]

Well why didn't the Dolphins do that as well? You know the Dolphins should have also made that pick. If you. If you're just getting some building block pieces. Yes, left tackle is a premium position and safety isn't. But when you start talking about that hybrid secondary guy now it's a different conversation. And so it made sense to me that they would have gotten Caleb Downs. The Steelers pick was. Was an interesting one and I'm trying to think of the other big storyline.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well yeah. Well yeah. So we'll get back to the. Because look there's a lot of stories last night. The trap was.

[Dave]

I think those are only the big ones. I think I just hit the big ones.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was. It was cool though the trap last night because like we knew who Was going to go number one. And then after that, I was like, all right, I really have no idea what's going to happen. And so, like, last night was fun. And by the way, like, that was only round one last night. There's still a lot more draft tonight and tomorrow. Only tonight, though. For Vrabel, tomorrow's all about family and counseling. Jeremy, how come. How come you, like. What did you make of last night?

[Juju]

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu I was at the Bruce Springsteen concert. It was incredible. I mean, the guy is still at unbelievable form, and he's nearly 80. The entire E Street band. E Street nation, if you will. I mean, the boss. It was such a special. Yeah, it's my first concert. That's my ninth Bruce Springsteen concert.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, now hold on a second.

[Trista]

That draws another one of these.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, so obviously there's sentimental value because it's the first concert you've ever been to, but if it was. If he wasn't your first concert, like, is whoever you went to first was going to be your favorite?

[Juju]

No, but I was raised on Springsteen and he's my. My favorite. He is. He has fulfilled all of the promise of what Bob Dylan was supposed to.

[Dan Le Batard]

Doesn't bother you He's a Mr. Hardworking Blue Collar guy, and the ticket prices nowadays are outrageous for Bruce Jones. Yeah, but he is.

[Juju]

But he has, like, worked with certain ticket companies.

[Dan Le Batard]

I saw what the prices to make sure.

[Juju]

Yeah, the demand is high. Sorry, you want him to give away $30 tickets?

[Dan Le Batard]

Secondary market. I'm talking regular price.

[Juju]

I understand what the regular price is. What do you expect from demand when you're looking at arenas? That's not the conversation.

[Trista]

You see my mom and aunt?

[Juju]

No, I didn't see your mom and aunt. I should have said hello. Look, what was really amazing about this tour is that it wasn't initially supposed to happen. And then everything happened in Minneapolis that did, and he was able to put together this tour that is just a giant protest. It's all of his protest music. It's all of the. The stories that he's told over the course of the years. Tom Morello of rage against.

[Mike]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Juju]

He's touring with him again on tour with him.

[Dan Le Batard]

I've seen Bruce one time and I went. It was like 10 years ago. I went when Tom Morello was originally touring with them, which was awesome.

[Commercial Voice]

Truly.

[Dan Le Batard]

And they played the ghost of Tom Joe.

[Juju]

Yeah, of course they played the ghost of Tom Joe. What do you Think this is his solo on the Ghost of Tom Joad, which is an eight minute song. When they play it together is one of the sickest things I've ever seen anyone do live.

[Chris]

Question though, is he giving back? If this is all about protest, then I'm gonna need to see some of those exorbitant ticket price sales going to causes.

[Juju]

Yeah, so he had the. I believe the specific name of the. Of the organization is the floor Florida Immigrant Coalition that was there specifically to help with folks who were being illegally detained or deported, specifically from the state of Florida. He's working with different local organizations, but what last night was about was just all of these moments where he's. He's just constantly speaking about the state of what's going on in America.

[Dan Le Batard]

Does he play the same show every night?

[Juju]

No, he'll alter some of it, but it's been a lot of the same set, which is rare. Springsteen normally. I've seen Springsteen one time on. On two out of three nights. It was back to back concerts. He played 27 songs in each concert and he only played three of the same songs.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, that's a good job.

[Juju]

Back to back nights.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now do we remember. Do we remember our first concerts? Juju, do you remember the first concert you ever went to?

[Commercial Voice]

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[Trista]

Sit on the chair and think about it.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the D Ler show with the St. Gods. Trista. First ever concert.

[Chris]

First ever. 12 years old, my mom and sister pulled me out of summer camp to go see with my best friend from middle school. Pulled us out in the middle of the night to see Puff Daddy. No Way Out. Featuring Mace. So full circle moment. It was Mace, it was puff, it was 112. It was foxy Brown, it was Black Rob, it was the Locks. I mean, this might be the greatest rap concert ensemble of all time. And it was my first one. And I told that to Mace the first time I met him. It bought me a lot of, like, real cool points.

[Dan Le Batard]

Roy. First ever concert.

[Roy]

Al Jarreau. My mom and her sisters, children across the street to Bayfront Park. And the children were busy playing Uno while the ladies enjoyed the show.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, Chris.

[Trista]

Spice Girls.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, that's not true.

[Trista]

It was with my. No, no, this is actually true. It was with, like, a group. I was young. I was like 9 or 10. It was with, like, my couple buddies and my. Some mom took us. Was that the. It was at the West Palm amphitheater.

[Dan Le Batard]

My first 1997 in the West Palm Amphitheater as well back then. Coral Sky Amphitheater. Rage Against Machine. Wu Tang Clan. Incredible show. Uh, Dave. First ever concert.

[Dave]

I caught that. The Chicago leg of that exact same tour.

[Dan Le Batard]

What a show.

[Dave]

How about that?

[Dan Le Batard]

What a show.

[Dave]

Yeah, it was great. It was great. Yeah. Rage opened and. And the Wu closed it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, they would trade off. They would trade off, I think because WU opened when I went zaz.

[Juju]

Do you know that I'm a member of the Wu Tang Clan?

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know how to answer that.

[Juju]

It's the truth.

[Roy]

You say? No, here's a.

[Dave]

Here's my question. My answer is, by the way, it was Genesis on the Invisible Touch tour at three River Stad. Phil Collins and company used to fill stadiums. The zaz, though. So you've been. I've heard tale that you've been to 30 plus Pearl Jam shows.

[Dan Le Batard]

Exactly 30 these days. Yeah. 30.

[Dave]

30.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Juju, you're a man of peace and love, but way in here, too much.

[Commercial Voice]

I mean, look, once you like something, you like them, bro. At least he's supporting them with his cash and he's putting his. The younger generation. I think that's why a lot of those shows get att. So he can put his two sons on. So am I right, Zaz?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. And it's also like I asked Jeremy, does Bruce play the same show, Pearl, every tour I see Pearl, James, several times. Last year, I saw them four times. It's a completely different show every single night. And now I have the thrill of both. My boys, especially my older one, are really into Pearl Jam, too. So I have a buddy that I travel with every time to go see them.

[Chris]

I saw the Roots like, eight or nine times. I'm going to go see them again. So I. Fallon. Yeah. Not with Fallon. No, just on their own.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Does that count? If you go to Fallon, do you get to then say, I saw the Roots tonight. Does that count?

[Commercial Voice]

Wow. Two America's ladies and gentlemen, the Roots. We need to put some respect on the Roots.

[Trista]

No, I'm making it. I know that the Roots are legend. I'm just saying that that's where you can see them sometimes.

[Dave]

Anyway, Juju, which would you rather you have to go to nine Bruce Springsteen shows or 30 Pearl Jam shows? And keep in mind before you answer again, like, I. I don't want to be a curmudgeon, but everybody celebrates Bruce Springsteen. Like, when you go in there, he's old. He's like, he. He's like 87 years old. And you go in there three and a half hours, non stop, just song after song. Like, seems like about the two hour mark, I'd be ready to punt. Like, all right, I'm good, Bruce, see you. See you next time.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, right.

[Dave]

How say you, Juju?

[Commercial Voice]

I ain't gonna lie. I probably would rather hit 30 Pearl jams.

[Juju]

That's crazy.

[Commercial Voice]

Just because, like you say, and Bruce, his voice, it hasn't touched my soul before. And so I would probably fall asleep.

[Dan Le Batard]

I do think, though, Dave, at shows like Bruce, even though it's an arena full and sometimes stadium falls, I. I feel like 95% of the audience are, like, hardcore. And they love three and a half hours of Bruce.

[Dave]

Same as you while. Right. And same as you as Pearl Jam. And I admire anybody who can figure out how to tap it or when the fan base kind of takes over and has a life of its own. Like the Grateful Dead. I don't think necessarily loved the association. I mean, I think they did, like, everything that came along with it, that they have a durable fan base that goes wherever they go. But I don't think they dug the culture as much as the culture dug itself. I saw the Dead maybe four times. Rage against the Machine probably four times. Maybe have you seen fish?

[Dan Le Batard]

If you've seen the dead, you've seen. I've seen fish like, like, maybe like six.

[Dave]

I've only seen them once. I've seen fish bone three times. That's the best live band of all time.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, I didn't know that. Now I know. So the first pick for the Dolphins last night, Kaden Proctor. And then we get around to the end of the first.

[Dave]

Look at that from Fishbone.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Dolphins. Yeah, that's how we do it. And so the Dolphins are selecting 27. Now help me out with this. Okay, so the Dolphins are coming up on. On. They're getting near 30, but then they trade up to 27. They traded up with San Francisco, where they moved up three spots, but also gave up a third round pick to San Francisco while acquiring San Francisco's, I think, fifth round pick. So they moved up three spots. It cost them a third. They added a fifth. It was number 90 overall that they gave up. Help me out here. So they selected Chris Johnson, cornerback out of San Diego State, which again, I, I know a little bit of college football. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that. I'm an expert, okay? And, and these guys, it's their job to really study and know these guys. But Chris Johnson, there were four cornerbacks that were rated ahead of him when the Dolphins that were available that were rated ahead of him when the Dolphins made that pick. So a, is that worth giving up a third round pick when you're only three spots away? That's question number one. Question number two is, is my logic incorrect when I look at this? Where. All right, could they have still gotten him at number 30 without giving up a third round pick? Because number 28 was a tackle, number 29 was a defensive tackle, and number 30 ended up being a wide receiver. So did they give up? Like, did they outsmart themselves? Did they cause a third round pick for a team that's rebuilding is rather valuable? Like, so did. Did they play themselves here by giving up a third when they could have had this guy anyway?

[Dave]

It felt to me like the Dolphins two picks indicated they were kind of like the guy in your fantasy league who covets somebody so much that they overdraft him by like three rounds? Like, I really like this rookie and I'm gonna, I'm gonna jump the rest of the draft. Like, like, yeah, good for you, man. You could have had them in the, in the seventh round. You didn't have to do that. That both of the picks felt that way for the Dolphins, but especially. And I'm with you, as I don't want to be a pretentious ass. And juju is 100% right. No one knows anything. We have no idea if either one of those guys for the Dolphins is going to work out. And how do I know that? Because the people who you say Zaz devote their entire lives to this are right 50% of the time. They're right half the time. So who are we to sit here and say, oh, that guy is definitely a bad pick. But it does. To your point, I think you're. You're right there. Is there any indication that anybody was about to jump the line to get Chris Johnson from. From the Aztecs? Specious.

[Chris]

And it's a. It's a good point. And I wanted to get you and Zaz's opinion on this as a new regime coming in, new gm, new coach, rebuilding. What do you guys think about going out so far outside of where mock drafts are and trying to get creative and zany and jumping up and trying to make trades for players who are probably going to be there at your position? You better be freaking. Really? Right. If you're coming in. In this perspective, because you could have just done the safe thing and people would have given you guys some grace.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I mean, look for the. The. The guy that the Steelers took. Dave. I'm not even going to try and say the tackles.

[Dave]

Max Ian at your Iheanachor. All right, forget the Max part. Mike Fuentes helped me out with pronunciation here. He said, Ian Achore, and I'm like, no, no, no, he's not an Englishman. He's not Ian Achor. It's. It's Max something. Oh, no, right. There's a first name. Max. Ian at your. You know, it's. It's kind of. It's not to say it's definitely not a good pick, but it is a double, nay, triple down on the same position. The Steelers have now taken offensive tackle three out of the last four years. And if you include Derek Harmon, they've taken tackles in four straight years. Yeah, I hear you, Trista. This is this again. This is not a team that's playing at the fringes to try to get itself from playoff team to super bowl contender. They're starting, it feels like, from square one. And I think things are going to feel very different a year from now for Malik Willis, which is why I feel bad for him. Everybody's like, ah, listen, it's fine. Everybody understands the situation. But I think that it's almost inevitably that he's going to get screwed by this new regime. They get, they sign him, then they deal away Jalen Waddle and they give away all this stuff. You know, they're, they're going to draft somebody in the first round, they're going to draft a quarterback next year. Right? Isn't that almost inevitable? So where does that leave Malik Willis? It feels very sort of confused. Almost like they're playing against themselves. The, the, the, the new Dolphins regime.

[Juju]

Dave, I stopped listening when you brought up that guy named Max, because all I could think about was Max Weinberg,

[John]

the incredible drummer of the E Street Band.

[Commercial Voice]

I know Max from Conan o'. Brien.

[Dave]

Conan, be respectful.

[Chris]

Two Americas

[Mike]

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