Local Hour: What People Think Of You

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz Episode: Local Hour: What People Think Of You
Release Date: August 5, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz," hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz engage in a lively discussion centered around the theme "What People Think Of You." The conversation delves into various topics, including sports attendance controversies, the impact of awards on podcasting, personal anecdotes, and the intricate balance between self-perception and external opinions.

1. Marlins Game Attendance Controversy

The discussion begins with a critical analysis of the Miami Marlins' recent game attendance figures. Mike Ryan expresses skepticism about the reported numbers, suggesting that the organization might be inflating attendance to appear more successful.

• Mike Ryan [04:00]: "The Marlins had their best pitcher going, Sandy Alcantara, trying to keep a winning streak alive against the garbage can banging Houston Astros. Do you know what happened? It was amazing."
• Andrew Hawkins [04:43]: "They got their ass kicked."
• Mike Ryan [05:15]: "You lie about that. If you actually look at the outer edges when it says sold out, you keep as an organization hundreds and hundreds of tickets that you keep in house..."

The hosts debate the legitimacy of the Marlins' reported attendance, discussing potential tactics like holding back tickets or purchasing a minimal number to claim a sellout. This segment highlights concerns about transparency and integrity within sports organizations.

2. Inflated Attendance Figures Debate

Continuing from the Marlins' discussion, the conversation shifts to broader implications of inflated attendance figures in sports.

• Chris Cote [05:25]: "Can you lie about the attendance figures? If you're saying like Saturday night they announced that it was sold out, does that mean it was sold out or can you also lie about that?"
• Mike Ryan [06:03]: "Excuse you. That is a heavy word to throw out three minutes in."

The debate intensifies as the hosts consider whether such practices constitute fraud or are merely "funny business." The consensus leans towards viewing these tactics as deceptive, albeit common in various industries.

3. The Impact of Awards on Podcasting

Shifting gears, the hosts examine the role of awards in establishing podcast credibility and popularity.

• Andrew Hawkins [17:05]: "I have won a lot of awards and I understand the award system. No cab neither."
• Dan Le Batard [17:16]: "You got a 40 under 40 in there?"
• Mike Ryan [18:10]: "I don't know of any successful business that doesn't have funny business."

The conversation critiques the validity and influence of award systems, questioning whether accolades genuinely reflect quality or are simply a result of strategic campaigning. This segment underscores the tension between authentic success and perceived achievements fueled by external validations.

4. Personal Anecdotes and Humorous Interactions

Dan Le Batard and Stugotz share personal stories and engage in humorous banter, adding a light-hearted dimension to the episode.

• Stugotz [30:16]: "David wouldn't wear a shirt someone had already worn without washing it?"
• Andrew Hawkins [31:10]: "It's a short sleeve sweatshirt. Never heard of a tactical vest and cargo pants."

These exchanges reveal the hosts' camaraderie and willingness to delve into mundane yet amusing topics, enhancing the show’s relatability and entertainment value.

5. Balancing Self-Perception and External Opinions

A significant portion of the episode tackles the central theme: how much weight individuals place on others' perceptions.

• Billy Gill [25:12]: "Why do you guys care so much about what people think of you?"
• Mike Ryan [25:14]: "Oh, man, I don't care at all what people think of me."
• Andrew Hawkins [25:20]: "That's all lies. Both of those. Both of what you just said are lies."

This segment explores the dichotomy between professed indifference to others' opinions and the underlying reality of caring about public perception. The hosts debate the authenticity of their statements, highlighting the universal struggle to reconcile self-assurance with societal expectations.

• Andrew Hawkins [34:14]: "It's fundamental that you can't care about awards unless you care what people think."

The discussion emphasizes that regardless of one's assertions, external opinions inevitably influence self-worth and professional success.

6. Reflections on Personal Experiences and Relationships

The hosts delve into their personal lives, discussing topics like parenting, relationships, and social outings.

• Mike Ryan [35:00]: "You had something that was blocking the parts on tv, but then you had another piece to, like, descramble that thing."
• Andrew Hawkins [35:00]: "It's a topless beach."

These anecdotes serve to humanize the hosts, providing listeners with a glimpse into their personal experiences and the nuances of maintaining relationships amidst public personas.

Conclusion

"Local Hour: What People Think Of You" offers a multifaceted exploration of perception, authenticity, and the intricate dance between self-identity and external validation. Through spirited debates, personal stories, and candid reflections, Dan Le Batard and Stugotz provide listeners with insightful commentary on navigating public opinion in both professional and personal spheres.

Notable Quotes:

• Mike Ryan [05:15]: "If you actually look at the outer edges when it says sold out, you keep as an organization hundreds and hundreds of tickets..."
• Andrew Hawkins [25:20]: "That's all lies. Both of those. Both of what you just said are lies."
• Mike Ryan [34:09]: "It’s fundamental that you can't care about awards unless you care what people think."

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This episode blends critical discussions with personal anecdotes, offering a comprehensive look at the pressures of public perception and the lengths to which individuals and organizations go to shape their image.

Transcript

[Andrew Hawkins]

You say you'll never join the Navy, never climb Mount Fuji on a port visit, or break the sound barrier. Joining the Navy sounds crazy. Saying never actually is. Learn [e-mail], america's Navy. Forged by the sea. Mike and Alyssa are always trying to outdo each other. When Alyssa got a small water bottle, Mike showed up with a 4 liter jug. When Mike started gardening, Alyssa started beekeeping.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, come on.

[Andrew Hawkins]

They called a truce for their holiday and used Expedia trip planner to collabor all the details of the trip. Once there, Mike still did more laps around the pool.

[Billy Gill]

Whatever.

[Andrew Hawkins]

You were made to outdo your holidays. We were made to help organize the competition. Expedia made to travel. This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't mind being in charge, but God, am I happy when Hawk's here and I'm ready to do show and just have fun.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Let's do it.

[Mike Ryan]

Two minutes. We're ready to start. You're getting performance enhancing coffee.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

And your valet tickets on the desk.

[Andrew Hawkins]

In case I need to be ready to go. I am absolutely going to be ready to go.

[Mike Ryan]

We're just starting.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I don't know how this is going to go. I didn't even know you were in the main chair today.

[Mike Ryan]

You don't.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I feel like you are absolutely, like, on it. Everything I was. I was three minutes early. And that was late to you.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Andrew Hawkins]

You know, and I'm. And I'm going off of vibes. That's what I operate off of. That's the fuel that fuels Hawk, is vibes. And so I'm excited about today's show because I have no idea how the hell this is gonna go.

[Mike Ryan]

You know, there's only two people in the world I've ever called Hawk.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah, who's that?

[Mike Ryan]

You and Tony Andre Dawson.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Andre Dawson. The original Hawk. I'll give him that.

[Mike Ryan]

So now you're trying to be just Hawk.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah. I've done a good job of branding myself as Hawk. I have. I have the Instagram handle, the Twitter handle, I have the Snapchat handle, the TikTok handle. I think I've done a good job, pretty much.

[Mike Ryan]

And so does everyone now just call you Hawk.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yes. I don't think there's a large amount of who have no idea what my real name is.

[Mike Ryan]

Andrew.

[Andrew Hawkins]

That is my real name. Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

But I can't.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Andrew Austin Wyatt Hawkins, which is not a cool name.

[Mike Ryan]

I love that name. Are you gonna actually change it?

[Andrew Hawkins]

The fact that you love that name confirms that. That is not a cool name. You know? So I just. I'm Hawk, and I have been for a very long time.

[Mike Ryan]

I think you're super cool, and I will make it so that valet ticket stays don vautre posh for the next several hours.

[Andrew Hawkins]

All right, we'll see.

[Mike Ryan]

I won't let you leave.

[Andrew Hawkins]

We'll see how it goes.

[Mike Ryan]

Drink that coffee.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I am.

[Mike Ryan]

Are you tired from the Marlins game?

[Andrew Hawkins]

I'm gonna pull up chatgpt and figure out some of these topics as well, starting with the Marlins. What are we juiced about with the Marlins game?

[Mike Ryan]

Do you know? The Marlins are H o triple T, and we're in a room full of people who we're trying to get a relationship with. Again, a crowded. We got Billy and Mike and Tony and Chris, and I can't tell who that is.

[Andrew Hawkins]

It's me, Rodman.

[Chris Cote]

I'm Zaslow.

[Mike Ryan]

We just did. We just did nothing personal together. And what happened?

[Chris Cote]

What's different?

[Mike Ryan]

Why do you have blue eyes?

[Chris Cote]

I know. I'm really confident. That's why. It's okay. You'll adapt. I'm the most confident guy here.

[Mike Ryan]

I see all of your wigs on the show, and I don't know.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Whoa, whoa.

[Chris Cote]

What you're talking about.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're not supposed to mention the wigs, even though video constantly puts up like you're talking about.

[Stugotz]

You're gonna get in trouble.

[Mike Ryan]

By who?

[Andrew Hawkins]

Dan.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan's gonna text you late tonight. Also, part of the bet was that we never make mention of what he's wearing on his head.

[Billy Gill]

What was the bet?

[Dan Le Batard]

Even he was gonna be able to go to the Stanley cup final.

[Chris Cote]

Game six.

[Dan Le Batard]

Game six, Dan.

[Stugotz]

I'm not doing this.

[Dan Le Batard]

One ticket. It was a plus one.

[Chris Cote]

No, it was.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, right.

[Chris Cote]

Two.

[Dan Le Batard]

Two tickets.

[Chris Cote]

I was going to have to do a Sophie's choice with my boys.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, it's my least favorite expression.

[Dan Le Batard]

SGA had to get over choice. SGA had to get over 52 points, rebounds, and didn't come close.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Oh, hate to see it.

[Chris Cote]

So here we are.

[Mike Ryan]

I just wanted to have everyone ready because I, you know, I like being on time.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I get that.

[Mike Ryan]

And I had a slight panic because there was a lot of stuff going on, like, 20 seconds prior. And forget shadow show. I'm talking about, like, Zaz is looking, like, crinkling his nose and freaking out. We've got you with coffee. And Billy sat down, was eating what I couldn't tell what may have been a sandwich. And I just want to make sure our head's in the game. Because we get to talk and not reach for it. We get to talk. Marlins, they had their best pitcher going. The guy they didn't trade at the deadline, Sandy Alcantara, trying to keep a winning streak alive against the garbage can banging Houston Astros. Do you know what happened? It was amazing.

[Andrew Hawkins]

That was amazing. Tell me more.

[Mike Ryan]

They got their ass kicked.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Oh, shoot.

[Mike Ryan]

It was a nightmare. There are only 10,000 people there. Finally they're lying about attendance like I did. Finally. They used to have. If you go look at box scores, Billy, you'll notice that they're not going to announce under 10k anymore. You can't do it, so you just do a little tad over 10. What was the exact announcement last night? Was it like 10,000?

[Billy Gill]

I think it was less than 12 because I looked it up early. Let's see here. It was like 10 something.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, that's what we.

[Chris Cote]

Can you. Can you lie about the attendance figures? If you're saying like Saturday night they announced that it was sold out, does that mean it was sold out or can you also lie about that?

[Mike Ryan]

You lie about that.

[Chris Cote]

Really?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. If you actually look at the outer edges when it says sold out, you keep as an organization hundreds and hundreds of tickets that you keep in house that you can then give to the box office or release them online right before the game. And the odds are they won't get taken. So what you then do is you buy them for a dollar and then you can call it a sellout. So it's a totally legit business thing.

[Stugotz]

Doesn't seem legit.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, that's not totally, totally legit.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know.

[Andrew Hawkins]

About the same shape definition.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Would not suffice. It wouldn't usually.

[Mike Ryan]

Fraud.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Excuse you. That is a heavy word to throw out three minutes in.

[Stugotz]

All right, not fraud.

[Mike Ryan]

Funny business now. Funny business. I'm in fraud.

[Billy Gill]

Well, you know, you lost me.

[Mike Ryan]

Words have meaning.

[Billy Gill]

10,000, 8, 27, yesterday.

[Mike Ryan]

That's my guy. They're back. None of this crap of announcing 5842.

[Billy Gill]

Well, there's a lot of people at the Budweiser bar. That's why it looked like it was.

[Mike Ryan]

And they all happen to sit in the corner sections of the. Of the second deck.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

What a coincident.

[Billy Gill]

I mean, if those are your seats and you get to just walk around the promenade on the Conch 100 level, why wouldn't you?

[Mike Ryan]

We had talking points that we gave to broadcasters when Marlins park first opened to explain some of the openings in where there weren't fans. And we Said they're all out touring the ballpark. They're walking the concourse. They're looking at all the cool things.

[Billy Gill]

The bobblehead museum.

[Mike Ryan]

Bobblehead museum.

[Chris Cote]

But what would they.

[Dan Le Batard]

When.

[Chris Cote]

How would they put it in the conversation? Would they just say, if you're wondering why there are empty seats, people are walking the concourse.

[Stugotz]

They're all at that center field nook where you can kind of see, like you're at a bar and I can kind of see that the home plate.

[Andrew Hawkins]

There's no. You got. You go on the offensive. You don't. You don't wait for it to come up. You say things like, and we got thousands of people touring the ballpark. That's why you see some of the empty sections. They're walking around.

[Mike Ryan]

You don't even say that. That's why part you go on the offensive. Never the explanation part, you say, thousands of people around you let them the pieces together 100%.

[Billy Gill]

So you just like open the broadcast.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Oh, welcome.

[Billy Gill]

Is another one today. Marlins versus Phillies. And for all you naysayers out there saying, hey, there's no one in the stand, say, that's not what's going on. They're all just walking around looking at the bobbleheads. They're buying some popcorn. They're buying some merch.

[Stugotz]

They're at the shut the hell up.

[Billy Gill]

When you say there's no one at.

[Stugotz]

This game at the sad kids area.

[Billy Gill]

That'S what you would tell, like, you know, Rich Waltz, that kids area. They go out there and start attacking people immediately.

[Mike Ryan]

We just wouldn't even say to all of you naysayers, you just go right out and on the offensive and say, this is the place to be. Enjoy this game. Enjoy this moment. And this is the time right now with the Marlins to enjoy what's happening.

[Billy Gill]

When I, when I do, like, radio calls for FIU football, I like just kind of throwing out there, whether it's true or not. Great crowd tonight. It's just. It's wild what's going on.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Like, oh, man, this is Miami, ladies.

[Billy Gill]

Look at this crowd. This is a good. It's radio, so you can really. Oh, man, look at this. This is a really energetic crowd we got here tonight.

[Stugotz]

Does your partner, like, look at you and, like, give you a look when you're doing that?

[Andrew Hawkins]

If you're looking at the four people in the stands, it could be true.

[Billy Gill]

Still, I also, I will like it's funny business on baseball games. When I do the baseball games, I was. Man, wind is really whipping around today. Just throwing the wind really whipping around. You get that in there nice and early because the wind can pick up, it could slow down. And then if there's a misplay ball later in the game, like I told you, that wind, man, I told you, first thing that wind is.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I like that.

[Mike Ryan]

You're already giving excuses for player ineptness and you're doing weather.

[Billy Gill]

I'm painting a picture. Whether it's the picture of what's going on or a picture in my head, I'm painting a picture.

[Andrew Hawkins]

That's it.

[Mike Ryan]

How would you do that in another sport?

[Andrew Hawkins]

What do you mean?

[Mike Ryan]

The picture you would pay.

[Billy Gill]

Give me a sport. I'll paint a.

[Mike Ryan]

Paint me the picture that would allow for bad performance later in the game that you're describing on radio.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, I mean, you mentioned the weather. You mentioned, you mentioned. Oh, it looked like I was walking around on the field today. And things, you know, not anything against the ground, screw it is turf, but it was raining last Wednesday. It's a whole thing. You got to figure this out.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Surface. Yeah. You know, and this is what you get with week 14 football, right, guys legs are not underneath them. They're a little bit beaten down. This is where the technique really comes into play. And these Thursday night football games, they're tough. They're tough turnarounds for these football teams. And they fight and they battle through it for the slugfest you see out here today. We have a 3, 6 score going on here in the fourth quarter, ladies and gentlemen.

[Mike Ryan]

Wouldn't it be windy?

[Andrew Hawkins]

This wind is picking up, man.

[Billy Gill]

This is. This is classic C usa Wednesday night football right here. I'll tell you what, tell you what, Corey, this is, this is the grind right now. This is what they've been working for. Throwing a little bit off. Here they go, the Friday game, the Saturday game, bounce right back. You have almost a short buy. It's a Tuesday game, then next week there's a Wednesday game.

[Andrew Hawkins]

And you look at this schedule, this maxion they got. They. They closed this season with three tough games. Ohio University, they got Central Michigan and a Kent State football team that has a kid that didn't play high school football. But they're excited about.

[Stugotz]

It's not your father's. Kent State.

[Billy Gill]

Don't let that Sam Houston 08 record fool you. I'll tell you what, they've been in every game.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah. And that's four of those games ended within two scores. So that tells you how. How right. There they are as a footballer, fighting.

[Billy Gill]

They're tough.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Absolutely.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't find Any of that to be funny business, though you would. Now, now, now.

[Andrew Hawkins]

You're over here. You're over here pitching.

[Billy Gill]

You're painting pictures.

[Andrew Hawkins]

We're painting pictures. Exactly. That's not funny.

[Stugotz]

Shout out to Kodak.

[Hawk]

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[Mike Ryan]

Don LeBatard oh, I like firing people, so I take the opportunity to fire whenever I possibly can because I can use it as a learning experience for them and try to help them out and try to point out what they did wrong. But in this case, the employee was enough levels below where I was that I did not do the firing, but I had it done within moments of discovery. I'm just.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Like firing people.

[Mike Ryan]

It's just absurd.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's absurd stugats.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm talking about people who I fire, who deserve it, who have done something that actively requires me to fire them. It is my unadulterated pleasure to do so.

[Andrew Hawkins]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach. What would be the equivalent for podcasting of saying that the place is sold out when you're actually giving tickets away to your staff for a dollar? Cause that happens in Every. Every industry.

[Mike Ryan]

When you take your show on the road.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Well, I mean, like, you're like, hey, not even the 1 to 1 of ticket sales. What is it? Listens. Downloads. Everybody pushes the funny business game. Oh, yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Fastest growing podcast.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Fastest growing podcast.

[Dan Le Batard]

Growing podcast.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Number one podcast on Apple is a. Is a pretty good one for like the new shows.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, that's.

[Andrew Hawkins]

That's because you had like a thousand downloads.

[Stugotz]

You screenshot it when you're in the top.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Brand new show. You game that Twitter bio.

[Andrew Hawkins]

A number one Apple podcast show. It's funny. It's all funny. Business man.

[Mike Ryan]

Nothing personal. Is an award winning podcast.

[Andrew Hawkins]

There you go. Business doesn't matter. The award show is the Andrew Hawkins Meadowlark Podcast of the week awards.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, there was that one too. That It's a multiple award winning show. I mean, how you go Podcast award. Billy Gill, you're. You're with me.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. Multi Timer.

[Mike Ryan]

A multi.

[Billy Gill]

3 out of 4 ain't bad.

[Mike Ryan]

Meatloaf.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. Now we're gone.

[Mike Ryan]

There's a lot of ways that you can make things look better than they are. And I'm not just talking about makeup.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

You can spin anything.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I know why you looked at me when you said, because you look so good.

[Mike Ryan]

I've never seen someone look this good up close.

[Andrew Hawkins]

All right, I'll take that.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, Hawk, I'm glad.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I'm glad we punched in on that is all I'm saying.

[Mike Ryan]

I feel funny. Like you're.

[Andrew Hawkins]

That's funny business.

[Billy Gill]

Just like you don't have scales.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

David said yesterday he would have sex with a fish.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Oh, okay. That's. Thanks for the.

[Stugotz]

Go on.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Quick context.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't think there's a reason to go on because today's Tuesday, but Billy.

[Billy Gill]

I appreciate just catching everyone up in.

[Mike Ryan]

Case they do listen to the show because every day. Why wouldn't.

[Andrew Hawkins]

It's award winning.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, this one actually.

[Andrew Hawkins]

This is. Actually.

[Mike Ryan]

I believe that Billy and I have won more awards podcasting than Dan has. I believe that.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Is that because you submitted for more? Well, I've won a lot of award this year. Look at me, Louie. For sure. I have won a lot of awards and I understand the award system. No cab neither.

[Mike Ryan]

Thank you.

[Dan Le Batard]

You got a 40 under 40 in there?

[Andrew Hawkins]

I got. I got a. I got two 40 under 40s this year. I'm not going to lie. I just. I won a hashtag award like two weeks ago and I realize the system of awards now, but does that make it valid?

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Andrew Hawkins]

If you submit for the awards, like how much Credence, do you put on those things?

[Mike Ryan]

Have you ever seen what, the Oscar, The Oscar race? The Tony race?

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, you go on a campaign, it's part of the budget of a movie, is the award campaign.

[Andrew Hawkins]

At what point it's all funny business then, is what I'm saying. Like even, even in a world where you might feel like an imposter, like, okay, my podcast has awards or I'm an award winning podcast. Even when you are that level, you still add more funny business on top. It's like the system that you need to do it.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know of any successful business that doesn't have funny business.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

In any industry, what happens to the.

[Stugotz]

Budget put aside for award show stuff? If you're like, movie's terrible or your project's terrible. And now there's like, you're not still submit. You still, you know, you don't know your, you don't know your stuff.

[Andrew Hawkins]

You don't.

[Mike Ryan]

So listen, if you believe that you have a money loser and you have a budget issue and you think that it's an absolute dog because you know it when it's happening. You take that money out of the budget and you put it back to cover some of the losses. Very important. That's like a trade deadline decision.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I never feel like my mind is a dog. I'm always, there's always a chance there's some idiot out there that's going to like this and we're going to, we're going to go for it.

[Mike Ryan]

You end every show saying, man, there is some idiot who like this.

[Stugotz]

I wish there was like, I wish someone could tell us like some examples of bad movies that thought they were good. It's like, no, no, they did the whole, they tried to get nominated. They did the whole stuff. But it's like, like G. You know what I mean? Like, what's the movie that was like terrible. Really?

[Andrew Hawkins]

I feel like that happens a lot. Like, hasn't there been so many.

[Stugotz]

It's what I. It's like my word association with terrible movies.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

I've never even seen it. I just know that that's.

[Chris Cote]

I think G is the movie that if you think of like worst movie, geely is the one that comes to mind.

[Mike Ryan]

What happened to Ishtar?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, Ishtar is invoked a lot right now. There is a movie that is getting destroyed by the critics. Was that War of the Worlds with Ice Cube?

[Chris Cote]

That's a real thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

So Ice Cube stars in a war.

[Chris Cote]

I thought it was like a fake AI poster.

[Stugotz]

We'll get to one of those later.

[Dan Le Batard]

Apparently the entire movie takes place on a computer screen and I haven't seen it. But I want to see it now because of how bad the review.

[Chris Cote]

Is it a sequel to the Tom Cruise?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, no, no. It's a reimagining Water World. That movie's great.

[Mike Ryan]

I enjoyed it, but it got pummeled.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, it got pummeled by the critics.

[Chris Cote]

Remember, it was the first ever hundred million dollar movie. Right?

[Dan Le Batard]

That movie rocks.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't recall its budget. That was the first ever.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was. It was. That was a whole deal with Water World. That it was the biggest movie studio budget people.

[Chris Cote]

That it was not $100 million to make a movie. I think it was the first one.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Stallone.

[Chris Cote]

That was the voice of the people executives.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Stallone was pissed. He said it seemed really. Costner was in the movie. But see, apparently.

[Chris Cote]

He was offended about.

[Andrew Hawkins]

How much money they spent on that movie.

[Chris Cote]

$100 million.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Rocky. Rocky's budget was half of that. What is this peeper?

[Mike Ryan]

There's no way Rocky 1 had a budget of $50 million. No, there is no chance. I bet you that budget wasn't $10 million.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah, maybe not. When was it? 19?

[Mike Ryan]

Rocky was in the 70s and that won awards and it created this great franchise. But if you check the budget.

[Billy Gill]

1.1 million.

[Mike Ryan]

1.1 million. Rocky.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Damn good movie. I like movies.

[Mike Ryan]

Kevin Costner with his hair. My recollection of that movie is that he tried too hard with the hair. Sort of like Zaz where when it got wet and he had the back ponytail that was like the Steven. Is it Stephen Adams? Who has that? The sort of.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're taking me back. Mariner. I love that guy.

[Billy Gill]

So good.

[Dan Le Batard]

Gills behind the ears.

[Mike Ryan]

It just didn't work.

[Dan Le Batard]

It worked. It worked. You were the problem. Waterworld is great.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I never seen it. Lost a fortune.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's an epic, okay? Who cares? Like Lost a fortune. That's all right. You guys lost a fortune. You won a World Series. Who cares?

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah, that's a fact. That is how they do it.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's all a house of cards, man. You can just default on everything.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Apparently nothing is real.

[Mike Ryan]

You cannot default.

[Dan Le Batard]

The president was bankrupt like 11 times.

[Andrew Hawkins]

We're good now.

[Mike Ryan]

People can recover from bankruptcy. Bankruptcy. Even companies can. Yeah, but movie studios disappear quickly. Very quickly.

[Dan Le Batard]

They'll just get bailed out.

[Chris Cote]

I want to hear more about this Ice Cube. War of the Worlds. I swear I thought it was fake. I saw the movie poster yesterday. It says, Ice Cube is not doing War of the worlds.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Is it out?

[Mike Ryan]

It's got an IMDb rating I believe of below 4, which I had never seen before and maybe it's different now and maybe it's higher now.

[Stugotz]

Rotten tomatoes?

[Chris Cote]

No, IMDb is scale 1 to 10.

[Billy Gill]

No, the Tomatometer has it at 0% and 12% audience scores.

[Mike Ryan]

That's hard. What about the IMDb number? There's a number out of 10 that is always there.

[Billy Gill]

3.2 out of 10.

[Mike Ryan]

That 3.1. I'm trying to think if I've seen a lower one.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Are they rating bombing it though? Maybe like a rival movie studio who really wanted this script this on Prime?

[Mike Ryan]

I don't think I so it's a straight to streaming.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I don't know.

[Mike Ryan]

That's not so negative anymore. Zaz, stop that straight. That's like saying, oh, your Show's only on YouTube.

[Andrew Hawkins]

What? You're going right to Apple Music, right?

[Mike Ryan]

Exactly.

[Andrew Hawkins]

You're not putting this thing in Radio Shacks with the rest of the albums.

[Dan Le Batard]

Here's some reviews I really don't like the sound of a lot of modern reviewers when they say outlandish statements like this is the worst movie ever made, mainly because it devalues films like War of the Worlds who had to work really hard to actually be one of the worst movies ever made.

[Mike Ryan]

It's such a bad review that you can't even watch it now. Sometimes you'll watch something just to see whether you disagree. But this one, I think it'll just be a straight pass and it'll disappear from the when you turn on Amazon, does it get blown to you by your algorithm? Because it was to me for a few days where you turn on Amazon and it's right there for you. My guess is it's going to change now.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I've seen the screenshot of this movie. I didn't know it was an actual movie. I just saw Ice Cube as an old as a gray haired man and I'm like oh, he's back in the acting game, doing something new. Eva Longoria's in it.

[Mike Ryan]

Eva?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, that's what he said apparently.

[Andrew Hawkins]

What did it sound like?

[Dan Le Batard]

I said this seems like a brokered film. A lot of the reviews are or just like this is just one big infomercial for Amazon. Not sure how not not really curious to see it. I'm usually down with the idea of watching a bad movie thinking like oh it's going to be funny bad. And then I watch Morbius. I'm like oh, this is just bad, bad. There's nothing Funny about this.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah, it happens.

[Mike Ryan]

I like the idea that Amazon or these companies can pump out these movies and they've got deals with people similar to the Adam Sandler movies. Although Happy Gilmore people are loving. I still haven't watched Happy Gilmore. Really?

[Andrew Hawkins]

Because I've heard it's the worst movie they've ever seen.

[Mike Ryan]

I won't watch it on principle alone. I won't watch that.

[Andrew Hawkins]

You've heard people love it and I've heard that it was because it made it almost ruined the franchise.

[Mike Ryan]

My principle is very simple. I am not rewarding lack of originality.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Okay, who has said it's the best.

[Stugotz]

Movie of all time? I feel like there are some people that are like, it was fine and funny. I feel like that's as far as I've heard anyone.

[Chris Cote]

I liked it a lot.

[Stugotz]

Well, that's as far as I've heard anyone go. But he's not saying the best movie.

[Mike Ryan]

Of all time just because you're making it uncomfortable for him to do that. I want this to be a safe space. I want him to be able to say that to him, it was the best movie of all time. But the way you presented it.

[Stugotz]

But I don't think he actually even says that.

[Chris Cote]

No, I don't believe it's the best movie of all time. Kind of idiot would say that it's the best movie of all time.

[Mike Ryan]

Just someone who.

[Billy Gill]

In blue.

[Chris Cote]

I don't want to look like an.

[Stugotz]

Idiot, but I think it is. Is the people that didn't like it think if you say it was even good, you're crazy. That's where I think the disconnect is.

[Billy Gill]

Why do you guys care so much about what people think of you?

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, man, I don't care at all what people think of me.

[Andrew Hawkins]

That's all lies. Both of those. Both of what you just said are lies.

[Billy Gill]

Me and him?

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah. You asking the question like as if you don't care what people think.

[Billy Gill]

It's not that I don't care, but.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Like him being so definitive that he does not care what people think about him.

[Stugotz]

Couple liars cutting it up.

[Billy Gill]

I don't care. But it's like if I didn't think Gigli was bad, I'm not gonna say it's the worst movie of all time just because everyone else in the room is saying it.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah, I get that you might not be influenced by what people say or you might have differing degree of how that influence affects you. But to say that you don't care what people think about you is not a True statement, Hawk.

[Mike Ryan]

We're not true. We're not close yet. But I'm feeling like there's a chance. But not yet.

[Andrew Hawkins]

No, no, no. I can. I can confirm that were it to.

[Mike Ryan]

Happen and we would have any sort of relationship, you would quickly learn that. And there are people in this first.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Human I ever met. You'd be. I'm looking forward to getting to know you, Sam.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm excited to keep that green card in your wallet for the duration.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look at that shirt. Do you think he'd wear that if he actually cared what people thought?

[Andrew Hawkins]

You know, I don't. I don't mind that shirt.

[Mike Ryan]

Really great shirt, Mike. Don't hate.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I don't mind it. I like it. I like the fact that he wears it like it doesn't. That's different though.

[Hawk]

That's a different.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I know, but what I'm saying is, would you wear that shirt? Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

You would wear that shirt.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I can wear anything and look good.

[Chris Cote]

It's sweatshirts right now.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Swag. Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Zaslow]

So Bob Odenkirk is one of my actually all time favorite actors. He could be comedic, he could be dramatic, obviously Better Call Saul, one of the great shows literally of all time. And a couple years back, he showed up out of nowhere as an action star in the movie Nobody. And I honestly really loved it. I couldn't believe what I was watching and had an absolute blast. Was blown away by his physicality. Movie was a ton of fun. And now he's back in the sequel, Nobody 2, hitting theaters on August 15th. So Bob returns as Hutch, and this time he tries to go on a vacation with his family, only for all hell to break loose. It's really a delight to see a guy like Odenkirk kicking some serious ass. Nobody 2 is produced by 87 north, the same team behind hits like John Wick, Bullet Train, and the Fall Guy. The film also stars Connie Nielsen, RZA, and the legendary Christopher Lloyd and Sharon Stone. Nobody 2 is a perfect summer movie. You don't want to miss this one. Nobody 2 is only in theaters August 15th.

[Billy Gill]

Russ Springer, Paul Sorrento, Alvaro Espinosa, Jeremy Bernitz, Buddy Black, Chad O.J. julian Tavares, Paul Assenmacher, Alan Embrey.

[Hawk]

Could he pull off the vest that you have on right now?

[Dan Le Batard]

Switch your chance.

[Stugotz]

David wouldn't wear a shirt someone had already worn without washing it?

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah, correct.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not even like it.

[Andrew Hawkins]

He came in here coughing though, and I know if it was reversed and I walked into the studio coughing, he would have shut the show down.

[Mike Ryan]

I thank you, but no. So I finished the two hours in the other room of Nothing Personal and I wanted to get a throat clear done prior to starting this show.

[Stugotz]

Just the preemptive cough. To avoid future coughs, you have to do the preemptive.

[Mike Ryan]

And in terms of the way you look at it, for those of you not watching, it's a beautiful black sort of heavier T shirt that looks more like a sweatshirt. That's a short sleeve shirt.

[Andrew Hawkins]

It's a short sleeve sweatshirt. Never heard of a tactical vest and cargo pants. And I'm wearing a hat with a black panther on it, literally. And I didn't realize until I was in the elevator of what kind of signal this, this, this, this, this outfit could give off. That did not register once over he.

[Stugotz]

Did the elevator once over. We talked about that.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yep, the elevator once over. And then Franklin also was like, I like that hat. I'm like, yeah, they have a bunch of them. I have a scorpion. I have one that is a tiger. Right? And then I'm like, a little different, though.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a tough outfit.

[Andrew Hawkins]

It's a militant outfit, dude. It is. It is making an unintentional statement.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're a face mask away from asking me for my papers.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Except in these times.

[Mike Ryan]

Diamond necklaces, read the room.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Diamond necklaces, that's. That kind of brings it a little lighter.

[Mike Ryan]

I think it changes the whole package.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Thank you. And I like. I do like your shirt. I would wear that with a diamond necklace. It's very Miami. I'd probably, you know, depending on how many drinks I've had, button it. Unbutton it down to the belly button area.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't have a chest like that.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah, but I mean, you gotta go.

[Mike Ryan]

With what you got.

[Andrew Hawkins]

You got your chest, but if you don't care what people think, it doesn't matter.

[Mike Ryan]

And hairless and unattractive.

[Andrew Hawkins]

But if you don't care what people think. Yeah.

[Hawk]

Need a little hair on there.

[Andrew Hawkins]

If you don't care what people think.

[Mike Ryan]

Then you're missing it. I care what I think. I. I'm talking about how I look to me.

[Andrew Hawkins]

So nobody cares what you think, and you don't care what anybody else thinks. Maybe that is.

[Mike Ryan]

Are you telling me that my self worth is going to be by whether or not Tony likes my shirt?

[Andrew Hawkins]

Am I getting specifically.

[Billy Gill]

I think if Tony liked your shirt, you'd have a better day. If Tony told you he didn't like.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Me, you know, you don't like compliments.

[Mike Ryan]

No, because I don't appreciate. Because I don't listen to insults. What you got. You can't have it both ways. You can. You can't just say, oh, my God, you look so pretty, and think, oh, you look pretty. But then when someone says, oh, I don't like the way you look, you can say, screw you, I look great.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I agree.

[Mike Ryan]

You can't have it both ways.

[Andrew Hawkins]

So you do not like compliments?

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know. I just said I don't. I don't believe them. That's a very big difference.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Okay, you don't believe compliments.

[Mike Ryan]

Stay with me. You've got this. I don't believe the positive or the negative, which is the only way to survive in this town with a room full of Mike and Billy's.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I guess that is. Does it Affect you. So there's a positive. I agree with comment Affect you? Do you. Does somebody say you're I like your podcast make you feel good. So it's not about you, but I.

[Mike Ryan]

Don'T got you done that.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Does it affect you? Do the awards make you think you have a good podcast?

[Mike Ryan]

No, but the awards make other people think I have a good but you.

[Stugotz]

Don'T care what they think.

[Mike Ryan]

No. But you want them to listen.

[Andrew Hawkins]

No. He's full of shit is what we're getting at here.

[Mike Ryan]

Wait a minute.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Let's keep going.

[Mike Ryan]

Excuse me. Me Hawk. I want. We're going to keep going and love listeners.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I know you have to have them both. I get you.

[Mike Ryan]

I understand you need everybody.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I understand you need fans.

[Mike Ryan]

I want fans to go to Marlins park. Who ate the Marlins. I love the other team because I want them to have that experience and to buy their money because it makes me look better when it's a full house when I get to announce who.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Cares how you look?

[Mike Ryan]

That is what the point is in order to be a successful president in your own mind and have you exude success. Why do we win the World Series for you? No paid for it.

[Stugotz]

You're still taking victories when the Marlins like oh yeah, right now.

[Dan Le Batard]

But you inflated attendance. How is that I don't care what people think.

[Mike Ryan]

We inflated attendance. There's no way never have the opportunity for people to say the facts are you have the 30th rated attendance.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Sampson here's the worst.

[Dan Le Batard]

So you cared what people said about.

[Andrew Hawkins]

This is what you got to understand.

[Mike Ryan]

Are trying to catch me. You can keep going.

[Andrew Hawkins]

It's not catching you. It's fundamental that you can't care about awards unless you care what people think. And you can say, well, I want people to listen. Well, you can't want people to listen unless you care what people think. You could say, I want the money. Well, you can't want money unless you care what people think. Well, I want success. Well, there's no definition of success if you don't care what people think. You would just live like all of these things still tie back to other people and you at some point, even if it's a minuscule amount caring what someone else thinks.

[Mike Ryan]

Is that why when you're a castaway, you wear like a little thing over your yes thing because you're right that someone's got that's real life.

[Andrew Hawkins]

No, it's because I don't want the wind to hit my dong and dong.

[Billy Gill]

Burn'S serious tongue burn is a serious.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Issue that I don't think you're taking serious enough.

[Mike Ryan]

I do not take that seriously at all.

[Billy Gill]

You do take it seriously. You don't walk around dong out, dong breeze.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

You don't like the dong breeze.

[Mike Ryan]

Have you been to a nude beach?

[Andrew Hawkins]

I have not been to a nude.

[Mike Ryan]

None of you have been to a nude beach?

[Dan Le Batard]

No. Goes against.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I care what people think. So do you frequent them?

[Mike Ryan]

I don't frequently say that's the wrong word, but I've been to nude beaches.

[Stugotz]

Do you partake?

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. Being a creeper.

[Mike Ryan]

You are nude at a nude beach.

[Stugotz]

It's like, to get in. There's like a thing, like, take it off.

[Mike Ryan]

It's just everyone else's. Drop them.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's just tan lines. Is that the purpose, the function of it?

[Mike Ryan]

It's just to feel free and to be cool about it.

[Chris Cote]

Who'd you go with?

[Mike Ryan]

Someone I used to be married to.

[Stugotz]

Is it like in Euro trip?

[Dan Le Batard]

I feel plenty free at a regular beach.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

There's never a time where I'm like, man, I'm so constrained by this. By this, by this bathing suit. I. I need to be more free.

[Chris Cote]

Wish I was able to have my penis out.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I wish I could feel that breeze on my dog.

[Mike Ryan]

Do you remember the first time you went to a topless beach? There's one in Florida.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Everyone remembers every beach. I think every beach is Florida.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not that in mind. Everyone.

[Andrew Hawkins]

No. Miami is literally the top of the beach.

[Dan Le Batard]

But a lot of Europeans, a lot of.

[Mike Ryan]

So the European beaches are the topless one. There's one right near Sunny Isles. And when we came, when we first got here from Montreal, a bunch of us lived in Sunny Isles. And we took family, we went to the beach because we were very close to it. And all of a sudden we came across a sign which said, you are now entering a topless beach area. I don't know if it's still there or if anyone's heard of it, but it was awesome.

[Stugotz]

Can you paint this picture? Is this, like, you, Perry Hill?

[Mike Ryan]

Not Mike Hill.

[Billy Gill]

Who else?

[Andrew Hawkins]

Who?

[Mike Ryan]

Larry Beinfest.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Okay.

[Mike Ryan]

Claude Delorme.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Nice.

[Chris Cote]

You were at the nude beach with Larry.

[Stugotz]

I almost idented.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Andre Dawkins.

[Mike Ryan]

Wow.

[Andrew Hawkins]

That is weirdly close, though.

[Stugotz]

Like, that's.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Just think about that.

[Stugotz]

I just had a moment.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Andre Dawkins and Andrew Hawkins are two letters from being the same.

[Stugotz]

I feel better about.

[Andrew Hawkins]

We're both nicknamed Hawk.

[Billy Gill]

Well, because that's not his.

[Mike Ryan]

Andre Dawkins?

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. His name's Dawson.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I screwed it all up three Letters away from.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can we answer Zaz's question? Did you go to a nude beach with Larry Binefest?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. This is important.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Topless beach. Let me help you out here. It was a topless beach.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you go to a topless beach with Larry Binefest?

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Billy Gill]

Specifically, like, to see boobs.

[Mike Ryan]

We didn't know it was there.

[Billy Gill]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's kind of weird that you decided to go to the beach with Larry Beinfest.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hawkins]

A regular beach with Larry Binef.

[Dan Le Batard]

I've never turned around to the. We worked on the shoreline, and I was never like, hey, Chris, let's go to the beach together.

[Andrew Hawkins]

That's not a thing.

[Billy Gill]

That's a topless beach also.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah. Isn't all of south beach topless?

[Dan Le Batard]

Am I wrong, Zagak?

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

I mean, really?

[Mike Ryan]

That is not.

[Dan Le Batard]

No one's ever going to say no. Don't do that.

[Andrew Hawkins]

It was no, I think Miami for 20 years.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hawkins]

And every time I'm on the beach, people are walking around topless. That is like, such a normal thing. And as a college kid, it does like, oh, snap, there's women here that are topless. But then you realize it's Miami and all the beaches are pretty. They're topless. They don't have signs. You don't have to sign a waiver. It's just what happens.

[Mike Ryan]

It's the first time I ever saw an unscrambled pair of breasts with Larry Binefest.

[Billy Gill]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

At a topless speech in.

[Hawk]

What do you mean by that?

[Andrew Hawkins]

Hold on.

[Hawk]

What do you mean by that?

[Stugotz]

Like, they were over easy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Unscrambled porn was a lot harder to find. And sometimes you would have an illegal.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Cable box descrambler unscrambled. I get it. Okay. I was wiggly.

[Dan Le Batard]

Lads, we can make some of the stuff out.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah. Squiggly line.

[Mike Ryan]

Wild can make out a Vice channel.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Hitting the side of the.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Hawkins]

So wait a minute.

[Hawk]

You had something that was blocking the parts on tv, but then you had another piece to, like, descramble that thing.

[Billy Gill]

It's just that the channel is messed up. It wasn't like, specifically here.

[Dan Le Batard]

You would hear them go. And then you'd be like, all right.

[Mike Ryan]

And then you'd say, oh, God, that was a man's elbow. And that would be a problem. So you'd. I mean, for some people.

[Billy Gill]

What did you think? The man's elbow?

[Andrew Hawkins]

The audio came through. That. That was a very weird. Yes, the audio. It was complete audio. It was like just. They would just scramble the visual. But the audio Was completely full on porn.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Correct. That's a crazy time that just have on the television.

[Dan Le Batard]

Had to work for it.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Channel 78. Are you kidding me right now?

[Mike Ryan]

You had. It was Channel J in New York on the cable box.

[Dan Le Batard]

J, you had letters.

[Mike Ryan]

Channel J.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Channel JJ. You had 26 channels.

[Mike Ryan]

Exactly. It was Robin Byrd and Midnight Blue with Al Goldstein.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I mean, those times, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know those names.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Remember the channel guide or the tv? The TV just scroll. And then they started putting ads in the corner there. And you just had to wait and just get the good advertising. As a business mind, that was probably some of the money well spent on media because you had to sit there.

[Dan Le Batard]

And watch it waiting for scores on ESPN2. I wonder who won between the Orioles and Red Sox. Let me wait around here for 10 minutes.

[Andrew Hawkins]

There's no other way to get aerobics.

[Mike Ryan]

9, 7, 6, 1, 3, 1 3.

[Chris Cote]

That's how you call to update all.

[Mike Ryan]

Your bets from a landline, From a land or from a landline. 9, 7, 6, 1, 3, 1 3. And every 10 minutes it would refresh. Or you could go to Headline Sports. Jerome Drunovich, Headline Sports. And it would be at 22 and 52 after the hour. And you'd get scores that way in.

[Andrew Hawkins]

New York when you're.

[Mike Ryan]

No, that was national. That was on Bumble, Pennsylvania.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I don't know if we had that channel.

[Billy Gill]

That's Channel L. Yeah.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Oh.

[Mike Ryan]

So one of the things that I've spoken to my kids about, to no avail, because obviously they don't care and don't listen, but how many children you have? Three. Three, 30, 27, 22.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah. Boy, girl, girl, boy. Three girls.

[Mike Ryan]

Girl, girl, boy, girl, girl, boy.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Who's the oldest?

[Mike Ryan]

Girl, girl, girl, girl.

[Stugotz]

Started with girl. You work your way down.

[Mike Ryan]

Normally backwards.

[Andrew Hawkins]

No, I was with you.

[Stugotz]

I don't know why he.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I have twins, so I. I will say girl, girl, boy, just because if I think of my daughter first, I got to think both girls and then go, son, even though he's the oldest.

[Stugotz]

I've heard that some parents of twins don't tell the kids who's older because of, like. It can create a dynamic.

[Andrew Hawkins]

It does definitely create a dynamic because.

[Stugotz]

My wife is a twin and they know. But I've heard that there are twins out there that, like, they don't know which one's older.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I wish I would have done that because it's like they. They are.

[Stugotz]

The other one holds it over the other one.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah. It's like I'm 17 minutes.

[Billy Gill]

Are they identical?

[Andrew Hawkins]

No, they're fraternal.

[Billy Gill]

Okay. I was gonna ask, like, if they were identical when you, like, officially decided. Okay, this one is this one and that one is that one. Because, like, early on for sure. Like, first couple weeks, it's like.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I don't know, man.

[Mike Ryan]

You need a different color bracelet.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yep.

[Mike Ryan]

For the newborn. Identical. That's the only way to know. You tag them.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

You have to tag them like cattle.

[Andrew Hawkins]

It's part of it, man.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, you didn't have to do that with fraternal twins.

[Andrew Hawkins]

No, no, no, no.

[Mike Ryan]

Is it Schwarzenegger and DeVito?

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yes.

[Billy Gill]

That's. Yes.

[Hawk]

Identical.

[Billy Gill]

He has an Austrian and.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

Are you expecting to say one of his daughters are in shape and the other one is a fat meatball?

[Andrew Hawkins]

No, no, I think he means height wise.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, is it easy to tell them apart? I've got nephews who are fraternal twins, and one is big and one is small. One is schwarzenegger, one is DeVito. That's not.

[Andrew Hawkins]

They're not that. It's not that much of a discrepancy. I think one is about. They're 10, and one is, I think, an inch and a half taller, which is significant at 10 years old.

[Stugotz]

If your nephews were listening right now and one of them heard you refer to them as Danny DeVito, they would probably be a little insulted.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, you're like one of them.

[Andrew Hawkins]

They would have no idea who Dan DeVito is.

[Billy Gill]

They also wouldn't care genetically.

[Andrew Hawkins]

It's like Larry Beinstein, Bind Fest by Fest Dawkins. Who gives it.

[Mike Ryan]

You're having a name issue today.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I'm not. I do not know or care about these people.

[Mike Ryan]

About Andre Dawson.

[Andrew Hawkins]

No. Andre Dawkins.

[Chris Cote]

Was Andre Dawson at the nude beach with you too?

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

He's an Adonis.

[Billy Gill]

What does that mean?

[Mike Ryan]

And yet I just. Yes, he actually is still very much in shape. He's a. He's great. He works out every day.

[Andrew Hawkins]

An Adonis.

[Mike Ryan]

He's got brand new knees, brand new hips. Brand new.

[Andrew Hawkins]

You can't be an Adonis with fake knees. That's what I'm like. These are literal things that you're saying. You can't be.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think you can.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Wow.

[Mike Ryan]

That is an insult to Adonis.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Ionic Adonis.

[Dan Le Batard]

For, like, his.

[Andrew Hawkins]

For his age group, I guess. He rents a funeral home now.

[Mike Ryan]

You are hating on people with fake knees.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I'm not. It's my future. Just saying. Guaranteed I'm not fading on those people.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are there any body parts?

[Andrew Hawkins]

I appreciate the ones with real knees at the moment, because I know that that will be my reality.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Are there any body parts on you that you're like. That's going to need replacing?

[Andrew Hawkins]

Right now they're trying to get better with ankle replacement technology.

[Dan Le Batard]

It sounds like a rough one.

[Andrew Hawkins]

It's not as, like, advanced as hip and knee, but my ankles are. They are. It's tough. It's tough down there. Seriously.

[Dan Le Batard]

Describe.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Well, there's really not any. Like, I would equate it to a shock system. Right. When you step down, the tip of your foot eases your back heel into the ground and then lift off mine. Kind of just like fee fi fo thumb. Because they don't have any of this anymore unless I medicate. And I don't medicate anymore because I don't have to play on Sunday.

[Mike Ryan]

Medication makes you able to step better or just have it not hurt.

[Andrew Hawkins]

It basically clears up the arthritis, the inflammation, and it allows it to function as an anchor.

[Mike Ryan]

So it's not like Toradol, which is just the.

[Andrew Hawkins]

And Tordahl as well. Yeah, I took Toradol my entire career.

[Mike Ryan]

Vitamin T. Did you have tummy aches? I've taken Toradol running and you get a bad, bad tummy.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I don't know. I don't think you. Really. I don't think you. I would have noticed. I'm a football player, so that's like.

[Mike Ryan]

Sorry, God forbid that you.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I gotta. I gotta go across the middle against Ray Lewis. You think I'm worried about a tummy ache?

[Mike Ryan]

Thank you.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Think that's gonna be the thing that logs my. In my mind.