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Amin Elhassan
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Stugotz
Whoa.
Amin Elhassan
The Energizer Bunny's got so much power.
Mike Ryan
Wait, he's powered up all the toys. I think that means we're done for the year.
Chris Cody
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Stugotz
It's the shipping container talking to you on a Thursday. This is the Shadow Show. And what is that?
Chris Cody
That's a callback. That's what you call a callback. That's good nostalgia for legacy listeners. Jeremy, don't get that reference.
Amin Elhassan
Should have done one.
Stugotz
No, no, I know that reference. I don't know what the Shadow show actually is, is or supposed to be. You know what? Let's talk about that. Let's go around the room and say what you want the Shadow show to be. Amin, you go first.
Amin Elhassan
Over.
Stugotz
Oh, okay, that's fine.
Dan Le Batard
I second that.
Chris Cody
Third. I don't get this. I don't. I mean, I know it exists in the podcast, right?
Stugotz
Yes.
Chris Cody
So everything that we say does go to the big podcast audience. There's no visual cue to the people watching on YouTube. And most people probably just have us low in their office until they actually see something on the screen and then they know to put the volume up.
Amin Elhassan
So that's the funny thing. Cause Dan bills it. This is for the YouTube audience, the early arriving YouTube audience. But I'm not a YouTube consumer. I consume it via audio. It's in the audio. So this is basically the show. It's not a shadow show. It's in no shadows. It's out there in the light.
Dan Le Batard
It also started as like a little comment here or there and a joke and then we'd start. But recently it's just we've just been talking about Monday night Football, Sunday Night Game, and we're doing whole segments.
Stugotz
I think on Monday we played the clip of the Utah ad in the shadow. We did.
Chris Cody
We did. We played video on something that we don't have video for. We're working more.
Stugotz
You should see what Jeremy looks like today. But you can't because this is the shadow show.
Chris Cody
You haven't lived until you've seen Jeremy Tasha make excuses for the Miami Heat while dressed as a pop tart.
Stugotz
I'm just having.
Chris Cody
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Well, it's a shadow show. No one's watching.
Stugotz
We're talking about what we're talking about.
Dan Le Batard
Or are they? I don't know.
Stugotz
We're talking about what we're gonna talk about. And that is one thing we're gonna talk about on the show today. No, but talking about what we're gonna talk about would make sense. We're just talking about it when we do the shadow show. Like, none of what we do in the shadow show makes any sense. Our show is because it was supposed to be like a minute of like, hey, how's everybody doing before the show starts? And then it turned into five minutes and a topic. And then it turned into, hey, let's do an entire segment, but not on camera. So we forced our video team to start putting it on camera. Cuz otherwise we were all doing an extra segment of show for no reason. That's not a shadow show because it goes on the audio podcast. So we're just giving extra show for no reason. None of it makes any sense. We've broken Jeremy.
Amin Elhassan
Let me. Let me play devil's advocate here. What if the shadow show was kind of like in the batter circle? You're taking some practice swings. You're not actually at bat.
Stugotz
We have our donut on.
Chris Cody
Oh, so like I try out takes here.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Here's a question.
Amin Elhassan
It goes out to the whole audience.
Dan Le Batard
If you go one step further. Why do we need it at all? Why can't we just start the show like we've done for a long time?
Amin Elhassan
Because that bats count at that point. No, you need some practice swings.
Chris Cody
Gotta tune up the band. Shawn Michaels doesn't just throw a super kick. I mean, he might if Shelton Benjamin's jumping off the top rope and is a surprise movement. But he likes to tune up the band so everyone in the crowd knows he's powering up. And that's exactly what we're doing.
Dan Le Batard
I have no idea what you're talking.
Amin Elhassan
I understood all of It.
Chris Cody
Shelton Benjamin, Monday Night Raw.
Dan Le Batard
Shouldn't the audience know when the show starts?
Stugotz
Yeah, tuning up the band would make sense.
Chris Cody
I feel like the cast members, man. Jeremy, you have no peripheral vision, and this is going to be tricky.
Stugotz
Yeah, you're right.
Chris Cody
You're already talking over everybody. Not getting cute.
Dan Le Batard
You know when the show starts?
Chris Cody
Yeah, I don't. I often don't know when we're doing show.
Amin Elhassan
The show hasn't started yet. This is the shadow show, except it's.
Stugotz
Going to the whole audience.
Chris Cody
If there are consequences. We're on.
Amin Elhassan
The whole audience sees Aaron Judge take them. Bullshit. Practice swings at the batter circle.
Stugotz
This is not the batter circle. This is bp. This is batting practice before the game.
Chris Cody
I disagree. This is ab. This is an ab.
Amin Elhassan
No, this is.
Chris Cody
This is an official ab.
Amin Elhassan
This doesn't count.
Chris Cody
If we can get fired for what we're talking about, then show I get fired circle.
Stugotz
I used to go to Marlin's games for bp. Fans are around, so fans can see bp. If I start throwing middle fingers up and bp, it's still. I'm still going to see repercussions.
Amin Elhassan
There you go. That's a great example.
Stugotz
Some people can watch it. The people that show up early, like for bp.
Amin Elhassan
Exactly.
Stugotz
Can watch this.
Chris Cody
I've got all the middle fingers out and my pants are down.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Chris Cody
There are no consequences. At least visually. Sorry, Jess, but if I say something about a partner, then we're in trouble.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, that's how it works.
Stugotz
Another problem with the shadow show. When do you end it?
Amin Elhassan
No, that. That now. That one. I'm 100% with you.
Stugotz
You know what? Let's end it now.
Amin Elhassan
Okay.
Chris Cody
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Mike Ryan
Executive producer Chris Cody. What would you start with today? Have you given consideration to the idea that you're running a show today that is made and built for America? You don't know what the shadow show is, even though you're supposed to be governing that. And everyone seems to be confused about what it is that I want from that. How would you start the show today? Would you start the show today with DeShawn Elliot calling the Dolphins soft?
Stugotz
No. I would start it with Caitlin Clark being one of us. Oh, and if she can shank a golf shot, anyone can shank a golf shot. She's playing.
Dan Le Batard
I thought you meant she Also didn't like the shadow show.
Stugotz
She doesn't know what it is for sure, but she was at some pro am tournament, and she's got a gallery full of people around her, and she shanks one. She hits a low dart right in the crowd. And then the scary thing is she re tees.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah.
Stugotz
She takes a ball and goes right back to the tee. And you can see the gallery like, oh, my God. She's going again to start to move back, dog.
Amin Elhassan
There was no part of her that did the.
Mike Ryan
Oh, my God. I'm sorry.
Amin Elhassan
She's just like, damn. All right, let's go back at it again. It really hammers home all those points they were trying to make in that Pablo Tory finds out about. Maybe she's wired a little differently. You know what I mean?
Mike Ryan
I don't know why.
Dan Le Batard
I don't know what you mean. I was about to say this was. This was an LPGA pro Am that she played nine holes with Nelly Corda, who's, like, the best golfer in the world. So this is the shot. We're showing it right now.
Stugotz
Thousands of people around her.
Dan Le Batard
So many people. She was signing autographs for, like. I was going to say hours, but it probably wasn't hours. It wasn't like Dan at the Vegas show. It was slightly less time than that, but there was a ton of people there to watch.
Mike Ryan
Oh, my God, that's dangerous.
Stugotz
And look right back into the pocket.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah. She's like, oh, my bad. Not even a My bad.
Mike Ryan
Not even my bad.
Amin Elhassan
There wasn't even like a.
Mike Ryan
Not even my.
Amin Elhassan
You're supposed to raise your hand like, sorry, I almost.
Chris Cody
I almost killed Placo Polanco shooting a shot just like that.
Amin Elhassan
Pl.
Stugotz
That's a sentence.
Chris Cody
Yeah. He was playing golf with Chris Whittingham and I. We got paired together. And then in the back nine, he just dipped after. Almost.
Stugotz
Look at me.
Chris Cody
Blue win. They're almost getting one in the temple.
Amin Elhassan
One of these days, I want to go to these Tahoe trips. I just want to see it. I don't want.
Stugotz
No.
Chris Cody
This was actually in Mikasuki.
Amin Elhassan
Oh, wow. Okay.
Mike Ryan
I'd like to go on one of them, too. But right now, they're just golf outings for Mike and Stugatz to spend a lovely time in Tahoe. I think we'd all like to go on those. Chris, when you're saying she is all of us, are you simply saying that in that instance? Because you're not in that instance. I feel like all of us would have done something similar, which is you are now basking in the shame of everyone's watching you, and you are an embarrassing failure at what you've done. You don't embrace that. You don't apologize. You just give me another shot so I can correct this. Give me another shot, and I'm going to stare down at the tee, and I'm going to just line it up again because I'm so ashamed. All of you are watching, and I just did something terrible in front of you.
Stugotz
To her credit, she piped the second one. So with that pressure, she. It didn't get to her. That might have been a breakfast ball for all we know. Was that the first hole, it's got.
Chris Cody
To be a breakfast ball.
Mike Ryan
But she choked, B.B. she choked, right?
Stugotz
I mean, look.
Amin Elhassan
Look at Dan, right?
Stugotz
As I'm a decent golfer, I have felt the, like, the first Tahoe shot I ever hit. Like, I'm not used to a gallery. So even though Caitlin is used to this, it's just that when you're hitting a. Like, you're used to swinging alone, and all of a sudden, there's a thousand people watching.
Chris Cody
When sue and I take our exclusive golf trip, that is not at all to make content. And no invites are invited to anybody else in the show. And I step over that hole on 17. Oh, my hands are shaking. Thankfully, I'm two for two, and I haven't killed anybody.
Amin Elhassan
Nice.
Chris Cody
Ray Romano almost killed Ray Romano.
Stugotz
Hit me really close to my midsection.
Amin Elhassan
Wow. You got contact.
Stugotz
Yeah, it, like, hit my inner thigh.
Mike Ryan
They did a whole thing for weeks on it. Ray Romano joined us. They talked about how they're extended family. Ray Ro drilled, and I don't know why Chris Cody said my midsection. He almost hit him right in the ball.
Stugotz
Right. I was trying to avoid that word.
Dan Le Batard
Midsections, like, not near the balls.
Stugotz
Your stomach. No, crotch is what I should have.
Mike Ryan
Said what you said almost like what you did.
Dan Le Batard
You could have just said balls.
Mike Ryan
You put us so farther away from what we were doing.
Chris Cody
Oh, testicles.
Dan Le Batard
But I was picturing, like, a kidney shot.
Amin Elhassan
Bollocks.
Dan Le Batard
Or like, a stomach, like internal bleeding. Because it hit you in the stomach.
Stugotz
He hit me in my upper inner thigh.
Chris Cody
Made it seem like a kidney punch.
Stugotz
Grapefruits midsection. I feel like. I feel like I'm not too super wrong.
Dan Le Batard
It's a lower body injury if it.
Stugotz
Hits kind of wrong.
Dan Le Batard
Midsection is an upper body injury.
Amin Elhassan
Hue boss.
Mike Ryan
All right, let's analyze this for a second. Now, because if we're doing midsection, he's technically right. Because midsection is under the nipples to the knees. That's really. That's.
Stugotz
Thank you.
Chris Cody
But why is he hedging? Why is he being careful? He knows exactly where he got hit.
Stugotz
I didn't want to say balls.
Chris Cody
Yeah, the grapes.
Mike Ryan
Okay. But what you ended up.
Stugotz
There it is. You wanted it and you got it.
Mike Ryan
I didn't. I didn't want it.
Stugotz
No.
Mike Ryan
I shouldn't be saying.
Chris Cody
You shouldn't be saying that.
Stugotz
Look, I. Look, that's where it hit me.
Mike Ryan
I didn't want it. It's a strike zone. Midsection. The problem with what you did is you were so afraid in today's America of saying the wrong thing. And I think that's the way we should be going. I think you should just run from all the Rogan boys. Just run screaming and scared because you can't say balls anymore, because that's how down the middle, Chris becomes a lefty.
Chris Cody
Wait, are we the liberal Joe Rogan?
Amin Elhassan
Wow.
Mike Ryan
Chris Cody.
Chris Cody
We were the liberal Joe Rogan the whole time. Every time I saw that tweet, I'm like, we've been that.
Mike Ryan
That's right. But now Joe Rogan's people are throwing rocks at us, and Chris has to run scared and makes it the midsection and makes it so geographically confusing that now no one knows where he was almost hit, when the funniest place that he could have been hit is where he was hit.
Amin Elhassan
Hoo ha.
Mike Ryan
Hoo ha is a good one.
Dan Le Batard
Technically, he is correct. I guess it was your midsection, but it was not really a great descriptive word considering where it actually hit you.
Amin Elhassan
I hear midsection, and I think you got hit in the abs. That's what I think.
Dan Le Batard
That's what I'm exactly that.
Mike Ryan
When I think midsection, because I'm being literal here, and I'm doing strike zone. When I do midsection, it's nothing under the hips. But technically, if we're doing the body in thirds, the midsection has to go from knees to nipples. That's almost. Although you guys saw what Giannis did last night to celebrate his three point shot. Did you see this?
Dan Le Batard
I did not see this.
Mike Ryan
Okay. Sam Cassell did, Once Upon a Time, the testicle dance. Giannis is a child, and he was more overt. And so he just did a long swinging penis by putting his elbow at his waistline. Like he's got a giant penis at his midsection. Right.
Chris Cody
And I think he meant cock.
Amin Elhassan
Dan, I think what you just uncovered is a new segment called loopholes. Right. Like what he did was hit the loophole. Because if you don't know. The big ball dance that Dan is referring to, that Sam Cassell used to do was popularized by the movie Major League. Pedro Serrano, right, was running around the bases, and he was kind of juggling two large invisible testicles as he rounded the bases.
Chris Cody
Didn't Eddie House also get fined for that?
Amin Elhassan
Eddie House was the one, I think was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Chris Cody
Like, we'll allow Sam Cassell to do it.
Amin Elhassan
Once Eddie started doing it, then it was a problem. So this dance has now been banned by the NBA. You do it, it's an automatic fine. So what Giannis did is he said, okay, you said, no shirt, no shoes, no service. Nobody said anything about pants. I'm walking in pantsless. You said, no ball dance. Hey, I didn't. I never gestured balls or showed balls. All I did was point my arm low to the ground and let it swing back and forth. Hey, maybe it's just my hand is dead.
Chris Cody
Amin. The detail that actually gets him out of trouble was he did three fingers at the end of the tip. So it just looks like a three point celebration. But he's definitely mimicking a giant penis.
Amin Elhassan
Yes, he is, because he's kind of pointing at it as it swings back and forth. He's proud.
Chris Cody
It's got inertia to it.
Stugotz
I'm with Amin. His hand could be asleep, and he's just trying to get the blood black into it.
Amin Elhassan
So he's just like, ever do that, Dan? Ever have your hand fall asleep and you just kind of shake it, shake it?
Mike Ryan
Did you just say the blood black into it? Is that what you said?
Chris Cody
No, he didn't.
Mike Ryan
That is.
Chris Cody
No, that's. No one heard that better than you.
Mike Ryan
I'm pretty sure that's what he said.
Amin Elhassan
Joe Rogan heard it.
Mike Ryan
The video that I want to keep showing people is not just the Sam Cassell dance, but I also want to find the Eddie House dance, because the Eddie House dance is where the balls dance went to die. But I feel like Giannis crossed a line, and it's not because I'm being sensitive. There's a lack of subtle, subtlety in this. There's a lack of subtlety in this celebration that makes it not offensive to me as, you know, a cultural purist. Offensive to me because it's a lame celebration. It doesn't have the subtlety. I need to have a wiggling noodle as opposed to balls, as opposed to the more subtle dance that Cassell got fined for.
Chris Cody
We are not Liberal Joe Rogan. Because we didn't lead with aliens. Yeah, we led with Caitlin Clark, who's an alien.
Mike Ryan
The new Netflix documentary. Is that what you're talking about?
Chris Cody
No, I'm talking about what happened in Washington D.C. yesterday where a government official said we collected non human biologics from a crash site and a military person said we're not alone, we're just not. There are other living beings in this universe and we have to come to grips with that. But yesterday was a big news dump, so it kind of got lost in the shuffle.
Amin Elhassan
That was the big news out of Washington yesterday, huh?
Chris Cody
This is exactly it. This is exactly what the government wants. You guys talk about other cabinet members. Meanwhile, we collected alien DNA.
Mike Ryan
And so we're not gonna do top cop Matt Gaetz resigning from Congress and evidently to avoid Ethics committee report that will make top cop or would have made top cop the guy who was allegedly trafficking in young people over state lines. Like we're not gonna talk about any of that, right? No, we're not. To do that would make us the liberal Joe Rogan.
Chris Cody
No, I think we should stop talking politics and stick to sports.
Mike Ryan
Well, I was saying before of Caitlin Clark when it is that Chris was talking about just shame and embarrassment. I told Amin before the show that I missed him yesterday because the thing that happened at the end of the Miami Heat Pistons game that triggered a lot of arguing around here. And I don't think that Billy is wrong when he says people should have perspective. If you lose game 10 of an NBA regular season, it shouldn't haunt you for the rest of your life. And the reason I know that that I missed Amin yesterday is because I'm just certain that he agrees with me, having lived in the furnace facility that is competitive basketball, that it's going to be very hard to find a coaching mistake any of us have ever seen in that sport as embarrassing, shocking and haunting as that one where you're the buzzer beater mistake, where the coach makes the buzzer beater mistake that just ends the game because you're stewing in your own shame and shit in the middle of the court. And SPO I've never seen him look like he lacked conf. Confidence more shrinking inside himself as he like tail between his legs to the sidelines because he realized what he had done. I mean, he realized that he had cost them the game before anybody else realized he had cost them.
Amin Elhassan
I've seen SPO in many a post game press conference, including playoffs and the NBA finals. I've never seen him look that devastated. And what it is, is exactly what you're describing. It's a lot of times you lose a game, you're like, well, the game wasn't lost on that play. We could have done this better. We could have done better. But he knows there's no other place to point the finger. You pointed out yesterday. It's not that he didn't know that they didn't have any timeouts. He just like, from the moment they're in that huddle talking about, hey, remember, we don't have any timeouts to what happened on that play that made him so furious that it was almost like a knee jerk reaction. Like, like in the cartoons back in the day, they hit you with the hammer on your knee and then you just kick. That's exactly what he did. Bullshit. Happened on the court.
Chris Cody
Yeah. Instinctually call the time out, because that's what I do. He messed up, but it wasn't. I know this is hard to believe. In his mind, I think his mistake was. Damn it, Terry's still in. He's going to screw this up. Damn it. It happened. No, Terry. Timeout. And instinctually called the timeout that he didn't have. But the mess up was like personnel wise. He didn't get it right.
Amin Elhassan
You know what's funny? They could have taken a delay. A delay a game. Like he could. He could have just walked out onto the court and they would have called. Would have called. Delay a game because you get one warning before they hit you with the automatic.
Chris Cody
But again, can you make a sub after a delay a game, though? Because that would be an unfair advantage.
Amin Elhassan
No, I don't think you can.
Chris Cody
Yeah, I'm sure the competition committee was like, someone's going to exploit.
Amin Elhassan
Well, they had six people on the floor, so it was up to him. It's not actually a sub. It's like, oh, no, that guy's a bad.
Chris Cody
That's how you do it.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, man. You gotta do. It's a game within the game, Dan. It's a game called Loopholes. Giannis won that game the other night. SPO lost the loophole game.
Mike Ryan
Your thoughts beyond that, though, when. Because the part about this that was so interesting to me, having watched. You know this building across the street is a military complex. It's like a mil. It feels like a military facility. Pat Riley, Pat Riley's basketball. Military facility across the street where if you were to walk in there, it would be a bunch of people walking around from science lab to science lab to get into better shape because they got the cult over there that builds whatever it is that they build that wins basketball games to watch at the end of that game. Somebody who came through the video department and is now one of the five people who runs that multi billion dollar organization to watch in real time. Someone who learned with Stan Van Gundy and Pat Riley how to be a crazy person about winning. To watch him sink into. I'm a control freak who knows he controls only about 10% of what's happening. Once I give the basketball away, I'm a control freak. When I'm at maximum rage, what am I going to do? Time out. The power comes right to me. He was so enraged by everything that had happened there that he grabbed his maximum control freak at a time where they were, you know, had to be shouting from the sidelines, hey, you don't have any timeouts left. You've just gone. You've lost your mind because you wanted control again. And the way you do it for 17 years is by stomping out on the court and saying, game's mine now everybody get over here. And you did it at the impossibly wrong time.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah.
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Chris Cody
St. Every cup game and what this is the Dan Levatar show with the stugad. I mean, I want to try again to be liberal Joe Rogan. Infowars has been purchased at auction by the Onion.
Amin Elhassan
No way.
Chris Cody
Yeah. I thought the Onion was making an article about this, but apparently it's so.
Mike Ryan
I was going to.
Chris Cody
But I'm only the true liberal Joe Rogan. If I actually got that wrong and I have to be corrected by a producer five minutes later.
Mike Ryan
Can you guys get me the video, please? Because that was funny yesterday, watching that go viral where evidently, Alex Jones is sitting in the middle of just an awful apocalypse of his own making that sort of foretold everything that's happened in America since that that person, through what he was doing, could deny things like school shootings to have him in the middle of his. What used to be his empire that birthed this nonsense that's happening in America right now. That went viral because he was watching auctioneers wander around his facility putting tags on what had. Because he owes so much money for his conspiracy theory. Doing that has fried the brain of America. Like, that's what was going viral yesterday, was him sitting in the middle of what was an Infowars empire, watching auctioneers go around and put tags on the things in his studio that had value. And you're telling me that the Onion has now purchased that facility and all things Infowars.
Dan Le Batard
That's Secretary of the Interior Alex Jones. So just watch what you say.
Chris Cody
Watch your mouth.
Amin Elhassan
I don't even know if you're playing or if you're real right now, Jess. That's the scary part, right? I don't know. You know, I'm sorry. I know we said we were gonna talk politics. The Secretary of Defense one is the one that blew my mind. He got a news host like.
Mike Ryan
And look, that's the one that blew my mind.
Chris Cody
That one doesn't even register anymore.
Amin Elhassan
Honestly, that one does blow my mind. I'll tell you why. Here's why.
Stugotz
Why?
Amin Elhassan
Because I can hear people say, that Matt Gaetz thing, that's a conspiracy. He never did any of that. That's just a liberal media. I can hear them say that. What I cannot hear is any actual explanation that a TV host should be the Secretary of Defense, should be in charge of generals and armies and the Pentagon. I Cannot. Like that's the part. Is there not a line for them over there? Them bar there across the aisle to say, hey, hold on. What the are we doing?
Mike Ryan
I think we're long past that point.
Amin Elhassan
But they won. They got it all. You have it all, right? No, you have it all.
Chris Cody
It's yours. Do it what you please. But not that you guys just want to ignore. We collected DNA that was non human.
Stugotz
Who cares?
Chris Cody
And I don't think they meant a parrot was at this crash site. Okay, There was a crash site.
Amin Elhassan
I mean, whoa.
Chris Cody
There was non human DNA in this crash site that we collected, and you're over here talking about shanked golf shots and attorney generals. None of that matters. We are not alone.
Amin Elhassan
What form of DNA do you think it was?
Chris Cody
A green person?
Amin Elhassan
Not what kind of. No, I'm saying what type of DNA from the green person was it? Because when I hear DNA at a crime scene. Are you suggesting one thing and one thing only?
Chris Cody
Are you suggesting that this is.
Dan Le Batard
Yes, that's what he's suggesting.
Chris Cody
I mean, what voice was that earlier that you just did?
Amin Elhassan
A Bane. Not a good Bane, though.
Chris Cody
That was a Bane.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, do with it as you please.
Dan Le Batard
I thought it was pretty good.
Amin Elhassan
I tried.
Mike Ryan
I thought it was Sean Connery. Oh, wow.
Chris Cody
Did you know that Christopher Nolan says the sequence that he's most proudest of in his career is the opening sequence of Dark Knight Rises?
Amin Elhassan
I believe it. Man. That's a great sequence.
Dan Le Batard
They expect one of us in the wreckage, brother.
Mike Ryan
She's such a better Bane than you.
Amin Elhassan
I know. I didn't say I was good at it.
Mike Ryan
How dare you go in front of her Bane with that Bane, though. That's the master Bane.
Dan Le Batard
She no Baner.
Amin Elhassan
She's got. She's got a different Bane, though.
Mike Ryan
Like a better Bane. Well, the best.
Amin Elhassan
It's also different. It's not just regular Bane. It's Bane with a.
Chris Cody
You keep crafting your bad Bane character, okay?
Mike Ryan
Keep working on bad Bany. None of. None of us knew why it is that he bad Beany.
Chris Cody
I mean, but seriously, like, what about the bomb exploding in Oppenheimer? I think that that's more of an a. A cinematic achievement.
Amin Elhassan
You think bad Beanie was bad? I got whispered in my ear. Won't give away who said it. Desmond Bane.
Dan Le Batard
What is this, Bane capital?
Stugotz
Jeremy said that to me.
Mike Ryan
As if we couldn't tell. Who told you? As if we all couldn't point at the Pop Tart.
Amin Elhassan
I don't know.
Mike Ryan
Wait, who told you who the bad pun came from?
Dan Le Batard
But the open of that movie was so good that I remember where I was. Like, I remember what seat of the theater I was in when I watched the Dark Knight.
Chris Cody
Hot take. Not even the best opening sequence of Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy.
Stugotz
The Dark Knight opener is great, where.
Chris Cody
He robs a bank.
Stugotz
Spectacular.
Chris Cody
Is Glenn Powell in that scene?
Dan Le Batard
I think he is, yes.
Chris Cody
God, he's hot.
Dan Le Batard
Was he people's sexiest man, or is it John?
Mike Ryan
I thought I saw that.
Dan Le Batard
Glenn Powell was people saying. And then a day later, liberal Joe.
Chris Cody
Rogan says, it's Benny Blanco. He read that somewhere.
Stugotz
The Internet not happy about Krasinski. They're like, what is this, 2014? That's what the Internet's saying.
Mike Ryan
Okay.
Stugotz
We're still efforting for that video, by the way.
Mike Ryan
I am here, though. Wait a minute. That was Alex Jones. That's an. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I am.
Amin Elhassan
No, but.
Mike Ryan
I know. I know. But don't run away from me yet, because I want you to craft two impersonations for me, because it's not even Alex Jones that I want you to perfect. The one I'd like for you to perfect is the Internet.
Amin Elhassan
Ooh.
Mike Ryan
You speaking as the character. The Internet is what it is that I want. I want that character to burst to life and just be swelling, covered in boils and just be an acid pit of. Here is the sound of the Internet.
Chris Cody
Internet sound like. Does it sound like a Russian Alex Jones?
Amin Elhassan
I've given you guys the voice of the Internet for years. It's whiny.
Mike Ryan
Oh, my God.
Amin Elhassan
That's the Internet. What are you talking about?
Stugotz
See, the problem is, I went straight from Internet into Alex Jones, so I already forgot how I did the Internet. I gotta go back and, like, listen to it. Oh, I'm the Internet. Was it something like that?
Dan Le Batard
No, that's a means. That's the same.
Chris Cody
That's Chad. GPT, I think.
Dan Le Batard
Okay. This is from the New York Times, Dan. To give some context, it says the Onion said the bid was sanctioned by the families of the victims of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook elementary school, who in 2022, won a $1.4 billion defamation lawsuit against Mr. Jones and his company, Free Speech Systems. Every Town for Gun Safety, a nonprofit dedicated to ending gun violence that was founded in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook shooting, will advertise on a relaunched version of the site under the Onion.
Amin Elhassan
You know what? They missed a great opportunity. They should have bought it anonymously and kept running it as if it's still infowars, but just infiltrate it with more and more ridiculous stories just to see how far people will believe.
Mike Ryan
I was going to say that Amin is a classic critic hater, second guesser, because he immediately gets information that is indisputably clever about the darkest of humor. The idea that the Onion would be able to purchase with the sanctioning of the families, because in the search of helping, the families would purchase this joke of a thing that changed the way that the American news coverage happens because people were believing in conspiracies. The idea that it would happen in real life and that Amin would say, you could have used that power to then turn infowars into something else by working in the shadows and not telling people you were the Onion. That's even FUNNIER Somehow that InfoWars just.
Chris Cody
Overnight become satirical and it takes several months to be able to tell. I don't think that that's the height of dark comedy. I think the height of dark comedy is Jess giving that information while a pop tart sits next to her.
Mike Ryan
I was hoping that at some point today we would. He would have some very serious commentary while dressed as a pop tart.
Stugotz
Oh, don't you worry. I can do that whenever you want, Dan.
Mike Ryan
Yes, I know you can. I do know that you can. Do we want to talk at all about the desean Elliott story?
Dan Le Batard
Because, oh, my God, Dan. The Steelers have safeties that are talking shit. They have wide receivers that are acting weird. We got a pass rush. We have a run game. The Steelers are so back.
Mike Ryan
Your enthusiasm is fun because you've got a deep passing game. Your offense is no longer constipated. The Steelers, actually, people have been questioning how good the Steelers are for a few years. But because of the improvements they've made recently that include a coach making a really ballsy quarterback change, people are thinking the Steeler are more for real because they have deep ball possibilities in Pickens than they have been. And I'm inclined to put down some of my doubt just because maybe Tomlin can get a little something out of Russell Wilson. But the desean this story, though, you never see this story, correct. Where all of a sudden, all over the locker room in Dolphin Land, reporters are spread out, asking everybody, every single person in the facility, are you soft? People who do that for a living, wandering around talking to the Dolphins, asking them, are you soft? And I thought that Javon Holland had the best response, which is just like, it's just empty noise until you've named names. Go ahead and say that Javon Holland is soft and go ahead and put names on it. Otherwise you're just a guy yapping to get attention.
Stugotz
The reason that this is a story is because he's accusing them of something that everyone has accused them of. Like this has been thought of as a softer defense. So it's like if he had called them bad tippers, I don't think that this would have been a news story. It would have just been like, oh, that's that. They're probably not bad tippers. He's probably just. But he said exactly the thing that they are criticized for being. So it's definitely going to be something that they're asked about. Barry Jackson was just touching his nipples when that sound got hurt.
Mike Ryan
The part that I'm objecting to is besides that. Yes. Beyond the Barry Jackson touching his nipples is. Who among us is calling anybody in that sport soft? Like, what are we doing? What are we doing?
Stugotz
I would never do that on a spectrum.
Chris Cody
I would never see Blaine Gabbard flinching in the pocket and say esoft. Never me. Nope.
Mike Ryan
An entire team calling an entire team soft that you're no longer on in that sport. Look, we can, we can talk about how they're built for finesse.
Chris Cody
You trusted Alec Kingold.
Mike Ryan
We could talk about them being built for finesse. We can also talk about them being fast. I thought we were all of the understanding that when you go fast, you're going to give up size, you're going to give up physical. The way that they play football is not to out tough the next guy. You guys really believe that out toughing is often a thing in the NFL?
Chris Cody
Yes. Out physically, 1,000%. The Ravens, the Steelers, they're more physical.
Mike Ryan
Not out physicaling, where you have. No, not out.
Chris Cody
Isn't that like a synonym?
Mike Ryan
Well, no. You're making them synonyms. I am not. When you say someone soft, it's not because they're too weak minded to actually conquer you with their strength. It's because they're physically not strong enough. When you're getting manhandled, when everyone in the league is getting manhandled by the Lions offensive line or on the tush push the Eagles offensive line, it's because Lane Johnson is stronger than everyone in the league. Not tougher. Physically stronger than every single person who's across from him. And so was Kelce.
Chris Cody
Okay. I guess if you peel back the layers and you get down in the nitty gritty, I get what you're coming from. And he did say mentally soft, which is a distinction. But I think that you can. Look, Miami's a Team that's built for speed and finesse, and they made off season choices that only leaned more into that. So I think that you can certainly deduce that there are teams that are physically tougher than the Miami Dolphins.
Dan Le Batard
Is he doing a cold weather thing?
Chris Cody
Maybe, Perhaps.
Mike Ryan
I believe that cold weather people are tougher. I believe that.
Dan Le Batard
Well, then we all agree with them.
Chris Cody
Rust Belt.
Amin Elhassan
That's what they want.
Chris Cody
All right, we might be liberal.
Mike Ryan
Joe Rogan, put it on the poll, please. At Le Batard show. Are cold weather people people tougher? Yes. I don't think of my. Can I say this about Miamians? Do I think of Miamians as tough, not tough? I am not toug. And my father came down here particularly because he's not tough. In fact, my father said, why would I ever want to die a hero? I'd rather live as a coward.
Chris Cody
There are tougher. There are people that. That are tougher in South Florida in certain actions. I'm saying generally in Kendall, not the toughest.
Stugotz
I feel like this is a confidence that comes just for playing for Mike Tomlin and the Steelers. You go to Mike Tomlin and the Steelers, you just instantly feel tougher than everybody else. He's looking around and he just. The uniforms we wear, the way our fans wave those towels, we're tougher than you.
Chris Cody
All right.
Stugotz
That team soft. Mike McDaniel, too quirky.
Mike Ryan
Let's examine this for a second. Because Kendall is the hood, according to Alex Rodriguez.
Chris Cody
Alex Rodriguez, he did grow up in.
Mike Ryan
The hood with me and Kendall.
Chris Cody
We both grew up in the hood.
Mike Ryan
I want to talk about this for a second, because I The examination of a sports entity and us thinking those people seem mentally not tough, those people who are doing that thing for a living, that is pretty difficult. I find it pretty consistently exasperating that any of us would do that. But when a person who has lived in that world comes out of the locker room and gives voice to it, even if people don't know who this person is, all of a sudden it becomes, oh, this is a way to talk about the Dolphins. This is interesting. Let's run through the locker room rubbing our nipples and ask every single dolphin and hey, you guys aren't tough, right? This guy said, you guys aren't tough. When they're halfway through a season, that breaks all of those bodies, like all of them are limping through that facility. And that's the question they're being asked midweek because we need the context to.
Chris Cody
Literally said at a press conference, I don't care. I Love it to the death of me.
Mike Ryan
That's right. His brain. That's right. The guy with the brain problem. In the middle of that is saying, yep, I'm in the middle of this, and I'm giving my brain to the cause. And you think I'm not tough, Dan.
Amin Elhassan
I think when we're talking about this, we have to clarify. Like Chris said, it's a spectrum. Like, to us, of course, it's like when NBA players say, yeah, how many points have you scored in NBA? Well, you're not comparing to me. If you were, you wouldn't be in the league either. The comparison is against your peers. And so these are peers talking amongst each other. It's like if Steph Curry told Klay Thompson, you're not that good of a shooter. To Steph Curry, he's not. Not to the rest of us, obviously. He's way better than anyone we've ever seen in our lives. So when they say this, when. When Elliott says this, he's saying it within the con. Like, you can't say those guys are walking around hurting something. Of course he knows that his team's doing the same thing.
Mike Ryan
All right, let me play the sound for the audience so we can hear this in his own words.
Chris Cody
So this. This will be fun. This will be very fun. I haven't been. I haven't been able to play against Baltimore the way I wanted to because last year I played for a team that was soft.
Mike Ryan
As.
Chris Cody
I mean, oh, my God, I can't put that on there. That was pretty soft. The guys on team, but there were some guys who were tough. But, like, for the majority. Majority of the team, there's not mentally tough individuals.
Amin Elhassan
So to be on a team with the full team of mentally tough guys.
Chris Cody
Going against another mentally tough team and.
Amin Elhassan
AFC north ball, you know, just gonna be.
Chris Cody
It's gonna be fun.
Mike Ryan
I have told this story a couple of times, and I will tell it again just because we're all in agreement, Right. That Ricky Williams as a football player was pretty tough. Yes.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Amin Elhassan
So Ricky, some would say, mentally wasn't tough. He couldn't do it.
Chris Cody
He didn't quit on his team.
Mike Ryan
Right. Okay. So the reason I asked the question is because the image of him gets distorted. I always thought that he was too gentle a spirit to exist in that world, but he, you know, had more rushing yards than anyone in the history of running a football in college. And then get to the pros. And Ditka trades all his draft picks for him. He's walking through the Raven locker Room. And he's saying, with Ed Reid and Ray Lewis in the room, I feel like a rabbit among wolves that those two people are not built in any way the way that I am built. But Ricky Williams was tough enough to carry a ball 400 times a season in that sport. And, you know, go looking for Roy Williams in your second. Because he wanted to bully him. He was tough enough to do that. And so I ask you, why do you think that you can hit a football team with so many different personalities with an allegation like they're soft at football?
Chris Cody
I'm a little confused, because I think even Ricky Williams, while we all admit is tough. He's admitting that there are degrees of toughness.
Mike Ryan
Agreed. But that's a team locker room right there. Yes, that is what happens.
Chris Cody
I don't doubt that the Dolphins are tougher than us, but I don't think that they're tougher than the Steelers.
Amin Elhassan
Dan. I'm pretty sure, like, Terry Rosier was the best basketball player in middle school that he ever played against, probably in high school. In college, he was really good. And then you get to the pros and you're like, oh, there are a lot of people who are good like this.
Mike Ryan
Right.
Amin Elhassan
Like Zachary Rishe of the Atlanta Hawks said this the other day. He said, in Europe, I was the most athletic guy, and here I'm just a dude. And so perhaps when it comes to Ricky Williams, yes, he's tough in high school. Yes, he's tough. The toughest in college. But you get to the pros and you see Ray Lewis, you see Ed. Really? No, I'm not tough like that. Not like that. I'm tough. I'm not tough like that.
Mike Ryan
So you tell me who we could look at in the NFL, because you guys are doing a different thing than I'm willing to do.
Amin Elhassan
What's that?
Mike Ryan
I'm not looking at the Philadelphia Eagles when they're physically mauling everybody on both sides of the front of the ball. Well, I'm not looking at that and saying they're tougher than everybody. I'm looking at it and saying they've got a number of physical gifts that work together that are physically stronger than everybody. I think there is a ceiling on tough on people who play those positions. They say of defensive linemen, for example, they say of offensive linemen, they're the guys who can put your refrigerator together. The defensive linemen are the ones who would tear it apart with their teeth. Everyone, they say that everyone there is tough. Yes, like that. The defense the thing that is said in that sport in terms of the difference between the two positions is one has a mentality that tears things apart. The other has a mentality that puts things together.
Stugotz
Who builds refrigerators?
Chris Cody
And this is a thing they say Frigidaire.
Mike Ryan
The offensive linemen build refrigerators. You and I should know that. We love fridges.
Dan Le Batard
William. The fridge par. Dan. Mike McDaniel's response was also very funny. He said, I just worry about this year's team. He said it on a podcast. Cool podcast.
Chris Cody
Cool podcast. This is. This is manna from heaven for Coach McDaniel. This is. You know who they're playing next.
Stugotz
This chum to throw it, the Raiders.
Chris Cody
And the Raiders historically tough. You know, the autumn wind. It's a pirate, Dan.
Mike Ryan
It's man from heaven is what it is. Man. I'm going to out tough. It's not man up front. It's not. I'm so you guys just.
Chris Cody
There are tougher players in the league, dude. Like, I don't know what to tell you. I think I look at James Harrison. I look at really Williams. I say, yeah, James Harrison, tougher. Now, you may argue, well, he's bigger and stronger. And I will say, good point. That's what makes him tougher. Dan.
Mike Ryan
I would argue that nobody listening to this would argue that the Chiefs won the super bowl for the reasons that had to do with toughness.
Chris Cody
That was a tough defense.
Stugotz
Chris Jones would like a word.
Chris Cody
Yeah, Chris Jones, tough.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. Really? Pacheco physically strong. Unbelievably strong.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, if we're just doing a.
Chris Cody
Weather thing, Pacheco's tough. Wait, there are bigger running backs than I say a hard runner, and no one, really in the league can replicate his running style right now. He's unique. So how do you explain that that's not just a physical attribute. Damn. He's not bigger and stronger than everybody else at the position. He's tougher.
Dan Le Batard
I'm still doing a weather thing here. I think that the Chiefs won because they were mentally tougher when it was negative 30 degrees in Kansas City.
Mike Ryan
They were mentally tougher on that blocked field goal last weekend. They were mentally tougher.
Chris Cody
You're moving the goalpost here, Dan. Like, it's just like you mentioned, Chiefs. We give you examples of guys that are tough.
Mike Ryan
No, I. Yeah, thank you. You gave me examples of guys in football who are tough.
Chris Cody
Yeah, Pacheco. Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Like, you want to go. How did you possibly come up with examples in football?
Chris Cody
I don't know what you're doing. You're saying they're not tougher, they're bigger and stronger.
Mike Ryan
Okay, agree to disagree.
Chris Cody
I think that makes you tougher.
Mike Ryan
No, what I am saying is let's go ahead and do it. Let's do this right now. Let's go through the recent champions and you give me the champions that you think won because they were tougher. Like you give me where that was.
Chris Cody
The Philadelphia Eagles, a quarterback by Nick Foles. They were tougher and that was a really tough team that they went up against. But in the trenches, they were physically tougher and dominant. And I think toughness is an attribute that you can assign to them.
Amin Elhassan
And do you know why they were tougher? Because Nick Foles had an arm that was hanging between his legs that he pointed to with three fingers on it.
Mike Ryan
I don't know how you make the distinction tougher. When I'm like, and that's the best offensive line I've ever seen.
Chris Cody
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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz Episode: Local Hour: What's The Point Of The Shadow Show?
Timestamp: 01:11 – 05:31
The episode kicks off with Stugotz introducing the concept of the "Shadow Show." However, confusion ensues among the hosts as they attempt to define its purpose and nature.
The hosts speculate on the Shadow Show's intent, debating whether it's meant for YouTube audiences or as an extension of their main podcast content. They acknowledge that the Shadow Show has evolved from a brief pre-show comment into a more substantial, albeit seemingly purposeless, segment.
After a brief attempt to redefine the Shadow Show, the hosts decide to discontinue it, humorously acknowledging its lack of clear purpose.
Timestamp: 07:08 – 44:18
The conversation shifts to Caitlin Clark, a prominent basketball player, who reportedly mishit a golf shot at a pro-am tournament. The hosts humorously dissect the incident, highlighting the pressure athletes face during public appearances.
Chris Cody introduces a satirical segment about The Onion purchasing Infowars, leading to humorous exchanges about conspiracy theories and media satire.
The core of the episode revolves around a recent incident involving a Dolphins coach (referred to as SPO) criticizing his team for lacking toughness. The hosts delve into the implications of such statements, exploring the spectrum of mental and physical toughness in sports.
They debate the validity of labeling an entire team as "soft," considering the diverse personalities and roles within a sports team.
The hosts further analyze historical examples of toughness in football, referencing players like Ricky Williams and contrasting them with modern perceptions of team resilience.
A deep dive into what constitutes toughness, both mentally and physically, in the NFL. The hosts discuss various players and teams, weighing their attributes and contributions to the sport's competitive nature.
They also touch upon the cultural aspects influencing perceptions of toughness, drawing parallels between team strategies and individual player resilience.
The episode primarily serves as a platform for the hosts to explore and debate the concept of toughness within sports teams, using recent events as a springboard for broader discussions on mental resilience and team dynamics. The initial confusion around the Shadow Show sets a humorous tone, while the subsequent analysis of team behavior and player characteristics offers insightful commentary for sports enthusiasts.
For listeners who haven't tuned into the episode, this summary encapsulates the essence of the discussions, offering a comprehensive overview of the key topics and insights shared by Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and their co-hosts.