Miami-Notre Dame Reaction Show

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Miami-Notre Dame Reaction Show
Date: September 1, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz & Crew

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Episode Overview

This episode is a lively, post-game reaction to the Miami Hurricanes' dramatic win over Notre Dame, featuring candid analysis, emotional responses, and plenty of irreverent banter. The crew dissects the pivotal plays, the conservatism of coaches, breakout stars, and the broader college football landscape—all while maintaining their distinct blend of Miami swagger and sharp critique.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Casino Antics & Team Vibes

• Show starts with Jessica, Billy, and Tony joking about playing slots at the Elser Hotel, setting the loose, playful tone ([00:43–01:40]).
• Observation about how beat up and celebrated the team (and the crew) are after Miami’s big win:
  • "I've never seen you look this bad in your life." — Mike ([02:20])
  • "That was a big win in year four. That was a really fun night. Not quite 2017 levels, but... really fun for Miami." — Dan ([02:34])

Miami’s Statement Win—But Are They “Back”?

• Miami beats a top-10 team again—both times since 2017, it was Notre Dame.
• Ongoing debate: “Is The U back?”
  • Record since Larry Coker: 16–40 vs. Top 25; Cristobal just 2–6 in these matchups ([02:46]).
• Billy raises skepticism about whether Miami can be called “back” with those numbers.

Notre Dame’s Resilience & Key Play Analysis

• Jessica, a Notre Dame fan, credits the Irish for resilience in the 2nd half, but admits Miami was in control early; the game swung on a few “fluky” plays ([03:42]):
  • “Notre Dame was very resilient in the second half… Miami got really conservative.” — Jessica ([03:42])
• Breakdowns of specific wild moments:
  • RPO interception with a ricochet off a Miami player’s cleat
  • “The touchdown before halftime that gave Miami the lead was an absolutely ridiculous play.”

Defensive Play & Athlete Spotlight

• Crew raves about Miami’s defense and athleticism, singling out the interception where a Miami DB “hit the football with his foot” while airborne:
  • “He was… above everybody who was trying to catch the football...” — Billy ([05:14])
• Malachi Toney, an electric 17-year-old Miami freshman wide receiver, “announces himself” with a game-changing performance:
  • “You saw the speed… It’s not a normal thing… He gets a little extra stardom… I did not know… he’s 17 years old.” — Billy ([07:35])

Coaching Conservatism: Miami & Notre Dame

• Miami's second-half shift to conservative play-calling draws widespread critique:

  • “It was maddening to see them play so conservatively…” — Billy ([07:35])

• Crystal Ball's trust in his defense over his offense, especially in the fourth quarter, frustrates fans ([18:50], [35:16], [35:55]).

• Notre Dame’s new DC, Chris Ash, less aggressive than predecessor Al Golden:

  • “He’s just not calling a super aggressive game plan.” — Mike ([09:06])
  • “Notre Dame just didn’t let their backs do enough.” — Mike ([15:24])

Quarterbacking & Moment of Maturity

• Carson Beck (Miami QB) under scrutiny:

  • Notable moment: Beck overwhelmed and crying post-game, “talking about what a hard eight months it has been” ([24:25]).
  • "The narrative around him…played out publicly…he had a tough departure from Georgia, a public breakup, a stolen Lamborghini..." — Dan ([24:47])
  • "I think Carson Beck really matured a lot over this offseason. That was a lot for a dude in his early 20s." — Dan ([26:55])

• Criticism of both QBs’ play under pressure:

  • “Both touchdowns by Carson [Beck]…he was getting hit. He didn’t see either.” — Billy ([11:39])
  • “I don’t know if Notre Dame has a great pass rush. I'm not convinced.” — Mike ([19:28], [19:53])

Ground Games, Stats & Style Comparisons

• Statistical breakdowns for rushing performance & explosive plays:
  • “Notre Dame's explosive play rate was 12%. Miami's was 4%... Based on the eye test…statistically, not a great rushing night.” — Mike ([17:40])
• Miami’s depth at running back credited after losing talent to injuries ([30:52]).

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Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments

• Resilience vs. Luck:

  • “It has to look a certain way, and it's starting to look a certain way for Miami. They have the athletes.” — Dan ([05:45])
  • “But I was really impressed with CJ Carr's poise as he grew into the game.” — Dan ([05:49])

• On Malachi Toney:

  • “The best receiver on the field is 17 years old.” — Dan ([13:40])
  • “He was doing whip routes where guys were getting left in the dust.” — Tony ([12:33])
  • “Fair catching that ball inside the five was a huge mistake, but Malachi Toney has a legit chance to catch Restrepo's records.” — Dan ([13:40])

• On coaching decisions:

  • “If you trust your offensive line… I don't understand Mario not trying to score a touchdown there.” — Mike ([35:53])

• Carson Beck’s journey:

  • “He had a public breakup with a girlfriend…a Lamborghini got stolen…He was living in a $5.2 million house in South Miami…We all have our struggles.” — Dan, Chris, Tony ([24:47–26:51])

• Fan Anxiety:

  • “I was just caught up in a force field of anxiety and I had to get the hell out of there.” — Dan, on watching the final kick ([60:38])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Casino jokes & the crew's post-win condition: [00:43–01:40]
• Analysis: Is Miami “back”, big win reaction: [02:34–03:42]
• Notre Dame’s gritty comeback, wild turnovers: [03:42–05:14; 10:21–12:33]
• Malachi Toney breakout & Miami’s young stars: [07:35–13:40]
• Second-half conservatism debate: [18:50–19:53; 35:16–36:31]
• Carson Beck’s emotional story & public narrative: [24:25–27:39]
• Discussion of NCAA's evolving offensive/defensive trends: [17:40–18:21; 53:43–54:45]
• Game-winning kick & final sequence anxiety: [59:18–61:03]
• Wider college football landscape (Alabama, OSU, Texas, etc.): [41:37–48:42]

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Broader College Football Talk

• Alabama’s new struggles post-Saban:
  • DeBoer losing to unranked teams, Saban’s absurd win rates ([41:37])
• Lee Corso nails picks in emotional moment: [43:19]
• Arch Manning struggles mightily against OSU:
  • “Arch had a really bad game…but it’s hard to go on the road…” — Mike, Billy ([47:39–49:35])

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Noteworthy Moments in Original Tone

• “It’s a funny thing to say: He endured a lot this off-season. His Lambo got stolen. That’s a funny thing to say.” — Billy ([27:58])
• “A man is a man, a man gets tempted. There’s only so much he could do.” — Tony, joking about Beck’s alleged breakup ([26:03])

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Takeaways

• Miami’s win was earned but unspectacular—excellent trenches, phenomenal first impressions from young players, questions linger about offensive explosiveness and aggression.
• Notre Dame showed tenacity but needed more playmaking and identity, particularly after losing key coaches and players.
• Carson Beck seems poised to shed a drama-filled narrative and emerge as a steadying force; Malachi Toney is a name to know.
• Both fan bases—mirrored on the show—are uncertain, nervous, and maybe a little hungover from drama and hope.
• The wider college football world is in flux: blue bloods—Alabama, Ohio State, Notre Dame—are being challenged, and Week 1 revealed more questions than answers.

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This episode captures the agony, euphoria, and neurotic speculation of major college football fandom—with a side of Miami flash and a dash of existential dread.

Transcript

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[Chris]

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[Tony]

I think they can hear us, but.

[Billy]

They can't see the kind of shape that Mike's in. They can't see.

[Dan Le Batard]

They can't see him?

[Tony]

No, they can't see him, but they can hear him.

[Jessica]

Guys, I'm playing the slots right now. Can you guys keep it quiet? Thank you.

[Tony]

Oh, sorry.

[Jessica]

And. Oh, and we're here.

[Tony]

There we go.

[Billy]

Whoever wants it quiet during the slot.

[Dan Le Batard]

I just.

[Jessica]

I'm trying to focus. I don't know, ever. And when I'm playing slots, I don't know if I'm winning. I just, like, see the things move, and it's like, okay, I hope that's good.

[Billy]

The math is too fast, is the math.

[Jessica]

There's so many different ways to win in slots. It's like, oh, I got seven pigs there. Oh, but that doesn't mean anything in this game.

[Mike]

I thought. I thought you just had to have matching colors. Is that not you guys, right?

[Tony]

No, he's right.

[Mike]

He's.

[Jessica]

You guys. You guys aren't playing these slots.

[Chris]

The machine tells you if you win. The machine tells you. You don't need to, like, turn in a card that says, I think I won.

[Jessica]

My gosh. Okay. I can't do this with you guys.

[Billy]

He's playing the slots where he's trying to figure out whether seven things diagonally get him whatever it is that a cherry gets him. You know?

[Tony]

Exactly.

[Mike]

I didn't know that was a thing.

[Jessica]

Yeah, they've gone crazy.

[Billy]

Luis Suarez spit on a Seattle staffer last night.

[Jessica]

Is that what. Is that what their soccer team's called? The Seattle staffers?

[Billy]

Mike Ryan is hurting today, and. And I imagine Jessica is hur. Today as well, for different reasons. Although I thought both of those teams should feel pretty good about what they did last night. Let's start with you, Mike. How are you feeling in general? How much have you slept?

[Mike]

Not.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not much. I. I just did, like, my morning supplement routine, and I opened up the garbage can, and I saw that I had Chicken McNuggets at. When I came home, I forgot about that. Let's go.

[Jessica]

What a night.

[Mike]

I just want to say, I mean this in the nicest way possible. You look terrible right now.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yep. No, I. I earned that. I earned that. I earned every bit of that.

[Mike]

I mean, I've never seen you look this bad in your life.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, no, I. We. We celebrated. That was. That was a big win in year four. That was a really fun night. Not quite 2017 levels, but that was a really fun night for Miami last night.

[Billy]

So since 2017, Miami has only beaten top 10 teams twice, and both of them are Notre Dame. So there have been a lot of conversations since 2017 about whether the University of Miami is back, but I don't know when you're 16 and 40 against top 25 opponents, since Larry Coker and Mario Cristobal is 2 and 6 against them, whether you can say something like that. But how did you feel about that, what you saw, Jessica? Because I didn't feel like the game should have been close, but I thought Notre Dame kept it close because of how resilient they were and because they kept fighting. And you should be happy that your quarterback making a first start, you know, against what I now know is a good defense. Like, they fixed the defense. Just like last year in Week one, when I knew that they fixed the offense like they fixed the defense, because I know Notre Dame's offensive line is good.

[Mike]

Okay. There's, like, so much that you just set up that I want to respond to. So let me start with saying, very sad that Notre Dame lost. I'm not trying to, like, find silver linings in any of it, but I did think Notre Dame was very resilient in the second half. They made a lot of adjustments and played a lot better and kept it close. I also think Miami got really conservative in the second half. I thought Mario Cristobal was trying to give it away at times. I thought kicking a field goal on fourth and two in that. I think it was in the fourth quarter was they could have gone up by two scores there. And I was like, he's leaving the door open for a comeback. But I didn't know if Notre Dame's offense had it in them. And I agree with you, Dan. I thought CJ Carr played really well. I thought there were a couple really fluky plays that this game kind of came down to. Right. Like, the interception was a rpo, and he said after the game, you should have handed it off to Jeremiah Love and not thrown a screen Pass where there were a bunch of Miami defenders, and it went off the Miami guys cleat and ended up getting intercepted, which. That. That's a bad read, but also a crazy play. And then, of course, the touchdown before halftime that gave Miami the lead was an absolutely ridiculous play. So overall, I think your analysis is mostly right. I think both teams pretty good. Came down to a couple plays, ended up being a close game. What you want as a fan from the opening weekend, I guess from as like a college football fan, not as a Notre Dame fan, but, you know, a lot of good and I would say a lot of bad from this as Notre Dame fans, but good win for Miami.

[Billy]

Mike, do you agree with the assessment that your defense is now good because the interception she's talking about, it's not just Amari Brown and Keonte Scott doing things athletically and physically and quickly that you're talking about a Cornerback who was 6ft up in the air when he hit the football with his foot like that. He was. He was not. He was above everybody who was trying to catch the football when he hit the ball with his foot. And it just lands in at Reuben Bane shouldn't be over there. Like, I don't even know what he was doing over there.

[Dan Le Batard]

It has to look a certain way, and it's starting to look a certain way for Miami.

[Chris]

They.

[Dan Le Batard]

They have the athletes. And while that. That was a lucky play, I mean, he probably should have intercepted it on the first touch. You got to make your own breaks. But I was really impressed with CJ Carr's poise as he grew into the game. He probably kept it too much on the RPOs. I think Marcus Freeman even said after the game, like, we had to pull him aside and tell him, you know, hand the ball off a little bit. But when you consider how slick it was out there, I thought both teams played pretty clean. And I get where Jess is coming from. I think that was a general sentiment from what I could sample. I wasn't really looking at my phone all that much, but people were a little frustrated with the conservative play calling. But I thought Miami was playing complimentary football. And it was only until that fourth quarter after Notre Dame leveled the score that I felt like, wow, this is a surprise. I felt like Miami was kind of controlling the game for most of the game, kind of dictating where it was going.

[Billy]

I want to talk about some of the conservativeness because, Billy, you were like everybody else in America who's watching that game. When you see at the end of the first Half that. Miami's out of timeouts and they have 18 seconds left. You're assuming they're going to do the clock management incorrectly. And they got bailed out there by a one handed catch you don't see very often. And then toward the end of the game, when I heard Sean McDonough say they've gone four straight possessions without getting a first down. That never happened last season. Three straight possessions because of how good their offense was. I thought everybody was watching that. Expecting Mario Cristobal to cough up that game.

[Chris]

Yes, that's what he does. I think that everyone thought he was going to find a way to blow. I also thought the FAU kicker was going to miss the field goal. Did I hear right that he only had four field goals in his career before at fau? Because like, that's wild. When he was there for like three.

[Jessica]

Years, that he was 4 for 11, they used him just on kickoffs. He was their kickoff specialist.

[Billy]

It was maddening to see them play so conservatively that they're trying to get that kicker Carter Davis in position to kick a long field goal. Like that's. It's. Your offensive line is great. It's not good. It's great. This is. Look, I know people don't want to make huge extrapolations off of week one. Pat40 was among those pointing out last year LSU and USC played a game like that. 27, 24. And it didn't matter at all. At the end of the season. It's rare for a Malachi Tony to have a Sunday to himself like in football. That's not a normal thing. So he gets a little extra stardom on. On his name. I did not know unless until last night that he's 17 years old. And I don't know how Jess feels about. If I tell her, not that it's Miami, but you're about to play a team that has running backs and wide receivers named Malachi and Marty. That sounds a bit like an accounting firm or more. More than it does like wide receivers and. And running backs. But to see his speed and what Jessica was saying about the second half adjustments, what you saw in the second half of that game, what we saw in the first half and in the first drive of the third quarter is look at how big and strong Miami is. They're pushing them around a little bit. They're a third and one from ending this game because they're up 21 7. And then Notre Dame made a slew of adjustments, including putting their best defensive back on Malachi Toney. And all of a sudden, Miami's offense went right into the toilet.

[Mike]

Couple of Malachi's cutting up. Notre Dame's got a wide receiver. Malachi too. Dan. Yeah, I think, I think that the biggest surprise was just the defensive game planning from Notre Dame. I think that going into the game, I said this on my podcast with Michael Jr. The Echoes. Check it out wherever you get your podcast. And we're on YouTube. Follow us on social media, like subscribe, rate and review that the real battle in this game was going to be Notre Dame's defensive line versus Miami's offensive line. And I think that that's, that's absolutely what this came down to. I really didn't think that Notre Dame's offense, I have criticisms of them, but that's not my main, my main issue. I think my main issue is really that like we got Notre Dame fans, I think we got very used to the way Al golden calls a defense. And this was the first game without Al golden as the defensive coordinator. Brand new defensive coordinator Chris Ash comes in, he's playing more zone. He's not doing as much kind of specialty stuff with blitzes. He's just not calling a super aggressive game plan. And I thought that that was the thing that Notre Dame really needed to do to make Carson back, make mistakes. Because when he's under pressure, he's obviously not as good of a passer as when he's in a clean pocket. And when they were able to get pressure, you could see that like he got, he got a little anxious in the pocket and didn't play as well. So.

[Billy]

Well, let's, let's talk about the plays though in the first half that you're talking about because there were three touchdowns, all three of them were fluky plays, good plays by, by the quarterbacks. But all three touchdowns were big third down plays. Carson Beck on the first one is rolling to his left. Both touchdowns by Carson.

[Mike]

Hang on, hang on. Wait, let me. Mike. Mike is saying his. For his two touchdown passes were under crazy pressure. The second, the touchdown pass going into halftime. Would you think that was like an amazing pass? Yeah, Yeah, I think it was an amazing catch.

[Billy]

Don't.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not. Can it be both. It was, it was a great catch. It's one of the all time catches, but yeah, that was. Look, watch the play again. Everyone's focusing on the catch, but Carson Beck hanging in that pocket.

[Mike]

Look, he threw it straight to the Notre Dame safety.

[Jessica]

It looked like he just chucked it up.

[Chris]

A good catch has the ball hitting the number seven.

[Billy]

Okay.

[Chris]

Like a good pass.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I, I, I think we disagree and that's fine.

[Mike]

We can disagree on that.

[Dan Le Batard]

We can disagree on that. And I think that, I think, I.

[Mike]

Think the point, my point Mike, overall is that Notre Dame needed to create more pressure and they weren't to do that. And I think that that was the difference maker.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think they pressured Carson Beck four times and half those exactly. Back through a touchdown pass.

[Billy]

Well.

[Mike]

And go ahead.

[Billy]

Well, on both touchdown passes he was getting hit. He didn't see either of the touchdowns because he was on his back. And the, the touchdown that Notre Dame had and that C.J. carr had was a better, was a better physical play than either of those touchdowns by the quarterback because of how much he moved back to the 30 yard line to throw what ended up being a seven yard pass. But let's talk about Malachi Toney because I, that reminded me of Kevin Williams and Santana Moss where you're, and I know Restrepo's quick, but this is a different kind of quickness. And again, I'm going to say it again. I can't believe that human being is 17 years old. And you'll excuse Notre Dame for not game planning for him in the first half because no team has ever had to game plan for someone who's 17 years old. It's not something that you, you have to worry about generally. A true freshman who's 17 being unguard.

[Tony]

What shades of Ryan Williams from last year at Alabama, right. He came in at 17, he was the best player on the field basically instantly. And it was like, oh wow, this guy moves at a different speed. Malachi Tony is the same thing. He was doing whip routes where guys were getting left in the dust. When he would pivot around and go back to the sideline like he was the best athlete on the field. It's going to take a little bit of maturity to get game plan basically out of the second half. But then I think when you talk about the touchdowns for C.J. carr, they were basically both on busted plays, right? The defense was caught looking into the backfield when he was 30 yards down the field, ball went over their head for an easy touchdown. And then the other touchdown to number nine, I forget his name was basically wide open on another busted coverage. So Miami shores up some of those defensive got get caught looking in the backfield, ball goes over your head. This is a completely different game that feels more dominant than it really was.

[Mike]

Well, if Notre Dame has less busted coverages too, it's also sure, yeah, of course.

[Tony]

But like the two, the two scores that we remember from outside of the C.J. carr scramble were two busted coverage plays. Like, I felt like Miami had more plays that were. That were within their scope of their drive and playing complimentary football, like Mike said, that we kind of forget to.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Malachi Tony point. We mentioned a couple times, Sam, when you were out, that in practice I was a little uneasy with Miami's best receiver being 17 years old. But Shannon, in Shannon Dawson's offense, the slot receiver is always going to find the pockets. And Malachi Tony is a really smart football player. And we mentioned Carson Beck and Malachi, they started developing a chemistry out at fall camp. And you could tell that Malachi Tony was going to be a huge part of this offense. Now, there were some moments where he showed his age. I think fair catching that ball early on inside the five was a huge mistake. But Malachi Tony has a legit chance and we were saying this at fall camp, that he has a legit chance to catch Rich Repo's records. He's that good of a football player. But I was really Malachi Tony announced himself with that touchdown pass. But if you watch it back like that was, that was pretty much all Carson back. And it's going to look different than it looked last year. People are going to remember how special Cam Ward is. They're very different players. But Miami is a much better football team this year, much more complete. And in sampling all of college football this weekend, those two teams that played last night, they're really good and they're going to figure in the conversation in the playoffs. I was really impressed with the resilience that Notre Dame showed last year and continues to show this year. I think that those are going to be two teams that are going to be in a conversation come CFP time.

[Billy]

I'd like to say that those two teams are going to be really good, but I'm hesitant to do that with CJ Carr having a first game and not really knowing what he is yet because I thought Jeremiah Love was able to do. I. I thought Jeremiah Love was shut down in a way that nobody expected. Expected Nobody expected.

[Mike]

I actually. Let me. Let me just butt in really quick. I actually think that's my biggest complaint of the play calling, Dan, was that Notre Dame just didn't let their backs do enough. I thought when Jeremiah Love had the ball, he played well. I thought when Jadarian Price was get in there, he was playing well. And then when Notre Dame went back to. Went back on offense like A lot of those RPOs, I can't say off the top of my head how many there were because I haven't watched it back yet. They should have been runs or they should have just called more true runs. Especially in the second half when you're not able, like when you're not giving your running backs a lot of touches and really leaning on your offensive line, you're not going to wear out the defense. It's just going to be three and out and it's, you're making it easy for them. So I think that, like, you know, Miami, I, you know, I think their defense is very good. I'm not saying that this is. Miami is bad. This is a criticism of Notre Dame just really not getting their playmakers the ball enough. They tried to do it with some receipt receptions for Love. I thought, you know, it's good to get him involved that way, but there's just a lot of times there's like the best player on the field is not getting enough touches right now.

[Jessica]

I love when Jeremiah Love, like approaches a pile. His strategy is just jump over it.

[Billy]

Yes, he better stop doing that. He better stop doing that for two seasons. But he needs to stop doing that for, for himself. For himself.

[Jessica]

I love.

[Mike]

He's like, seems like it's his signature move. Like he's just a hurdler.

[Tony]

He got undercover like four times where he would like flip in the air. I was just like, okay, so the third time you didn't learn it. Now we're gonna do it a fourth time.

[Billy]

Gotcha. The reason, the reason though, am hesitant to proclaim these, you know, the upper level teams that we're talking about, which for the last, the teams that we're talking about over the last 10 years are Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State and Clemson. And, and so the reason I'm slow to put it in that group is only because in seeing these two teams play, I was really, really disappointed by the absence of big plays. Like, I understand that the touchdowns, I know that the touchdowns were exciting, but outside of that and the, and play, the offenses were pretty limited. It wasn't what I was watching last year, where, where specifically those two teams, because of the quarterback play, were able to run all over the field offensively.

[Mike]

So let, let's say Notre Dame's explosive play rate was 12%, which is 87th percentile, and Miami's was 4%, which is 8th percentile. And then Notre Dame's EPA per rush was 74th percentile. So they had a pretty good rushing game versus Miami's which was only 12th. I mean their EPA per was negative 0.25. So like, I think based on the eye test, especially in the first half, it seemed like Miami was just moving the line of scrimmage really well and was running the ball really well. But really statistically not a great rushing night. I think it really like the difference maker is just that Notre Dame couldn't create pressure. Not that Miami was able to really push a lot, I guess, if that makes sense.

[Tony]

I just, I wonder, like when you talk about the EPA and it felt like Miami was moving the ball however they wanted on the ground, does that EPA factor in, like when they were just basically running into the back of the center for one yard at a time in the fourth quarter where they just completely abandoned any sort of like outside runs? Because it felt like Miami in the first half and in that first drive to start the second half especially, they were reeling off 6, 7, 8 play, 8 yards per attempt on Russia.

[Mike]

But they only averaged I think three yards per rush in, in the game. So.

[Billy]

Yeah, but he's the math that he's doing. You're right about that. Their rushing average was terrible for the game, but it's at least in part because of everything that happened in the second where they were just super conservative and they were, they, they weren't doing like what happened in the second half to me was Mario Cristobal trusting his defense and not trusting his offense. When, when I'm watching that game, I'm having the same reaction I'm having the year before, which is, man, that offensive line is good. That quarterback's going to stay protected all season because that Notre Dame pass rush is good. The things that are best about Notre Dame. Jess, you correct me if I'm wrong.

[Mike]

I don't know if the Notre Dame pass rush good. I'm not convinced.

[Billy]

Top of this game, this order. Well, okay, so this order is what I would say. I'd say they're good on the offensive line. Second would be defensive back plays, although they don't have depth. And then what they've got along the defensive line, I would say that that was stymied by Miami. I think that offensive line is absolutely good and that Carson Beck is going to have time to throw all season.

[Mike]

Yeah. So I would say I'm not convinced Notre Dame has a great pass rush. That's why going into the game I said that was going to be a big matchup because Notre Dame lost a coup good interior defensive lineman's to the draft last year. So they were replacing Some talent. I thought the second half, they certainly were better. I thought the best player on the defense was probably Boubacar Traore, who's coming off at acl, who was really good last season before he got hurt. But there's some young guys in the pass rush, like some young edge rushers that, you know, I think will probably get better through the season. But I wouldn't say that was a strength going into the game that I felt like would. That's. I mean, that's why I was concerned about it, quite frankly. That's why I talked about a lot on our podcast last week. As far as the offensive line goes, I would also say not a great offensive line night for Notre Dame. I thought that they got beat a lot, and I think. I think that's just because my. They're playing probably the best defensive line they're going to play in Miami. I thought Reuben Bain had an amazing game and he's just really, really good. So it's possible the O line will rebound, but they also may not have to play talent like that for. For a few weeks, which would be helpful. So, Dan, I would say, like, this team isn't exactly what it was last season as far as Notre Dame goes. And the strengths that they had last season, I think came a lot from the coaches, putting a lot of emphasis into strengths and less into weaknesses. And so this is why I kind of put this one on the coaching staff. Because offensively, I don't think Notre Dame knows what its identity is yet. I think early on they were trying to get CJ Car to just get the ball out of his hands to get him less nervous. And as the game went on, they just weren't sure what to do. Are they running? Are they passing? They didn't.

[Billy]

You're putting this on Notre Dame's coaching staff. They can't control. They can't control the turnovers. They can't. They. They did. I thought when they're down 217 and Miami's got the ball third and one and has held the ball half of the third quarter, I think if Miami gets a first down there, I was expecting Notre Dame to totally cave for the remainder of the game. I didn't think. I thought the coaching in the second half with the quarterback draws and the changing things up so that Miami wasn't doing anything off. I thought that they were doing the things that they needed to do because I thought they got. They were a little overmatched athletically, strength wise.

[Mike]

I think in the first half, that was that was when Notre Dame lost the game. I thought the first half was, was pretty weak. I don't think they knew what they wanted to do on offense yet and I don't think the defense was really pushing and I think that a really good play caller on defense if you're losing your one on one matchups can create some mismatches or at least least disguise things in a way that makes it a little bit harder for the offense. I just don't think they did that much of that to start out the game.

[Billy]

So the last time Notre Dame had such few pressures was in 2017 against Navy. Navy obviously doesn't throw the ball. Mike, you've been watching the camp and that offensive line, I had the same feeling and I'm not, I'm not this person who, who does this with my biases that are hopeful. That offensive line the last two years has created pockets that three years ago were absolutely not there. That pressure was something that I expected a quarterback to see. In the last two seasons I've watched quarterbacks not have very much pressure. I thought that was done to Notre Dame.

[Dan Le Batard]

I, I would agree. And that's what Mario Crystal Ball does. He's in year four a recruiting based head coach that built along the trenches and in year four that tree is bearing fruit and they're winning a very physical game. I was impressed with Notre Dame. I think that, that that win's going to age really well. I understand trying to hyper analyze the game and, and place blame. I think that was a good football game between two good teams that are going to get better as the year progresses. And I don't really think after sampling the college football weekend there's really going to be a team that sets itself apart with a huge talent advantage. I think parody is here in college football and like I said earlier, those two teams are going to have a say in how this season plays out. A lot has been made of Carson Beck and the narrative around him. And you just pointed out how crisball is performed against top 25 teams here in Miami. I don't think he's been a favorite in many of those games. Carson Beck just won his fifth top 10 matchup. He's 5 and 2. It may not be as jaw dropping and awe inspiring as Cam Ward, but the results are going to be better for Miami this year. They're a more balanced team and he's a more complementary quarterback to this type of style. And I think Miami's going to have plenty of big wins this year.

[Jessica]

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[Billy]

Were any of you surprised in any way that Carson Beck was crying and couldn't keep himself together in the interview talking about what a hard eight months it has been? I wasn't surprised that he would endure or feel like he endured something the last eight months.

[Chris]

What did he endure?

[Dan Le Batard]

I can, I can actually give voice to that. He actually endured a lot and it played out publicly. Look, the, the narrative surrounding his departure at Georgia wasn't good. When Gunner Stockton came took over the reins, the. The commentary was, this is the, the locker room guy. This is the quarterback that the locker room will rally around. There's discrepancies in, in sides when it comes to the injury that he sustained and the pressure that he felt from Georgia to play through that. I'm not at liberty to say what, what Georgia told him, but it didn't end well. He didn't have.

[Billy]

Wait a minute. So you happen to know, but you're not at liberty to say? That's a different thing. I thought that happened to know. Know something here.

[Dan Le Batard]

He, that Georgia tried to make him play through an injury that he needed to get surgery for, and then he transferred over to Miami. He had a public breakup with a girlfriend.

[Chris]

He cheated on her, allegedly. With Cuban girls.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I mean, it played out publicly. What a man to do.

[Mike]

The shooting is very cool, right, Tony? Tony?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, I didn't say that. We were shrugging.

[Chris]

I thought you agreed with me.

[Tony]

I said, when you get to Miami, things are different.

[Chris]

I mean, Tony, you're a cheater.

[Tony]

A man is a man. A man gets tempted. There's only someone she could do.

[Mike]

That's what I just said. And you disagreed with me because I just.

[Tony]

Because I disagreed because it was alleged.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was alleged.

[Chris]

Allegedly.

[Mike]

What is alleged? You just said the same thing that I just said.

[Tony]

No, I said it completely different.

[Mike]

No, you said it the exact same.

[Tony]

I didn't say the circumstances word.

[Jessica]

Whoa.

[Mike]

At the same time. One, two, three.

[Tony]

Thank you, Dan.

[Dan Le Batard]

To my earlier point, everybody seems to have an opinion on what happened there because it played out publicly. And I don't think we all have all the facts. And this car got stolen, and that's a lot of change for a young man that it's in his early 20s.

[Chris]

His Lamborghini got stolen.

[Billy]

Never forget that.

[Tony]

He was living in a $5.2 million house in South Miami.

[Chris]

We all have our struggles.

[Dan Le Batard]

I, I, I. This one I do happen to know. Carson Beck had A very difficult time adjusting to, to this big time move in in Miami. And it took him leaning on his family, it took him decompressing and he came back after powwowing with his, his family a different guy. And Miami kind of echoes that. Echoes, echoes, echoes. I think Carson Beck really matured a lot over this off season. That was a lot of stuff that happened in the young man's life. And yeah, I, I, it's fine for us to kind of poo poo all those things. He got a Lambo still stolen and he cheated on a tick tocker. I think it's a little bit more complicated than that. Yeah, I think.

[Mike]

Are you confirming?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, I'm, I'm talking what you guys are talking like, allegedly. Allegedly.

[Chris]

I thought they were star basketball players a year ago.

[Tony]

Stars. Stars. Generous there.

[Chris]

Jeez.

[Billy]

Go ahead.

[Jessica]

I'm sorry, are we implying that if it was like a Honda Civic, this would like, seem like what are we doing here to this Lambo?

[Billy]

Well, no, let's, let's. I want to offer a couple of diluters here. One, it is funny to say he endured a lot this off season. His Lambo got stolen. That's a funny thing to say. But, but it his car being stolen, I don't believe that we would be laughing quite the same way at him potentially crying during the interview because his car was stolen if it weren't a Lamborghini.

[Dan Le Batard]

I feel like this also goes without saying. He had a pretty important surgery to his arm where he didn't know if he, he'd throw the ball.

[Billy]

That's the one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I have to remind you guys that, like, there is a pretty major thing. He didn't know if he would be able to play the position the same way. And when he was struggling getting out of that injury, who wasn't throwing the ball the same way, and he had a difficult time adjusting to that. It's a lot for the young man to go through and I think that we kind of sound a little crass and just overlooking it because we just see cars. Like, it's just it, it was a lot for a dude in his early 20s.

[Billy]

I was just laughing at. He's endured a lot. His Lambo was stolen. He, he two years ago completed 72% of his passes. He was, wasn't that last year? And I imagine you tell me if you guys had some of this. As much as some people expected Mario Cristobal to cough up that game, I imagine there was also an expectation that Carson Beck might make a bad play. Correct. Because I, I do feel like there were times last year that people expected him to make the wrong play, that he was a different player last year, at least in part because he was a little bit hurt, I would imagine. Imagine.

[Dan Le Batard]

I, I think there was a lot of reasons why he was a little bit more reckless. His and he lost his tight end. Yeah, I mean he lost lad McConkey and Brock Bowers, but his receivers led the nation and drop passes and dropped air yards. I, I, I, I think that the narrative got so far out of control because of the circus, because of the calendar thing, because he was the, the reported money that he was being paid and all this stuff. There was like a three week stretch there where Carson Beck just couldn't get out of the news and people just made up their minds that this guy that followed Stetson Bennett at a 24, 3 lifetime record at quarterback was not a good player and that I think he's going to really reshape the opinion of him a little bit. Again, it's not going to look like Cam Ward and it can't for Miami to actually win big time football. It can't look like that. It can't possibly. Miami's going to control games. You're going to see. I thought it was a shame that Jordan Lyle got hurt in that game because Jordan Lyle is a really good running back. But you saw the depth of Miami's running back room there with Fletcher and, and Marty Brow down. That's what this, this team is going to look like. Undulating waves of depth. And that's what it's going to need to be for Miami to get to the CFP in Charlotte.

[Jessica]

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[Billy]

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[Tony]

Them being different, obviously Cam Ward and and Carson Beck are is the offense gonna get entrusted to have Carson make plays in the second half? Obviously it was early first game. You're still trying to figure out what you have across the board but it felt like they just didn't trust Carson to make the plays when needed that last year they would have trusted Cam to do so. Are we going to see that playbook open up a little bit closer to.

[Billy]

How can it close up more than the second half?

[Tony]

You're running into the, you're running into the back of the center four times.

[Billy]

In a shoved it up like he didn't, he didn't open the playbook. It was locked closed.

[Tony]

They gotta do something right. They gotta trust him a little bit more.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, I'm not gonna hyper analyze that. It was a three point game and Carson Beck made two big time plays in the face of pressure. That was very rare for Notre Dame. The Malachi that is those are game winning plays. Yes, EJ Daniels made an unbelievable catch.

[Tony]

But my second half, I'm talking about second half.

[Dan Le Batard]

Second half. I think that Miami had pretty much surmised the advantages they had along the lines and were just trying to win that football game. Yeah, I, I to, to your question. Carson Beck's going to look really good at times this season. I don't know how many times he's going to play a team as good as Notre Dame. I think the team will get better. I think Malachi, Tony will get better. I, I don't really have this issue. I know that they were conservative and I wish that I wasn't nervous at the end of the fourth quarter but I'm really happy with the top 10 win against a good football team and I'm not gonna lose any sleep over man, there was three straight plays where we didn't get any traction on the ground. That's a national runner up that Miami just played.

[Billy]

Did lose sleep though. You only slept two hours last night. You literally lost sleep.

[Mike]

I was celebrating Add like I don't think Notre Dame secondary had their best game that I've ever seen but they are, I think they're really good and I, I think that they were just a lot better in the Second half in particular. There's like also some nitpicks I could say about defensive back personnel, especially in this first and second quarter, but I would just say, like, it's possible Notre Dame won't play a passer as good as Beck the rest of the season. It's also possible Beck won't play a secondary as good as Notre Dame's for the rest of the season. I also think, Mike, like the decision to kick the field goal on 4th and 2 when Miami, I think was about to go two touchdowns or maybe even.

[Billy]

No, you. They were up. You're not talking about the one that made it a ten point game, right? You're not talking.

[Mike]

Yes, I'm talking about that was fourth and two. I believe in maybe right outside the red zone or in the red zone that I go ahead seven though.

[Billy]

And they went up 10 with like he was trusting his defense there. And they immediately had the dumb broken play that, that was, that went as long, went 30, 40 yards longer than any other play Notre Dame had had.

[Mike]

The, and the subsequent drive. I'm saying like my just want to say stay on Miami for a second. Like, I think if you trust your offensive line and you trust your offense to gain two yards. Like I don't, I don't understand. Mario Crystal ball not trying to score a touchdown there and just pour it on. Especially when the field goal unit already fumbled a snap earlier in the game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Strong disagree. They made it a two score game.

[Mike]

Game and then Notre Dame tied it and Notre Dame had a chance to win it. I mean, they had a bad two minute drill at the end of the game, but they could have won that game on a touchdown and, and then like the game's over.

[Billy]

Yes, she's right about that. But I think throughout almost all of football history, except for the last couple of years, when you're up seven there in that position on fourth and short, you kick a field goal. Only because of the way that the sport has changed in the last few years where everyone goes for it on 4th and short. Is that something that's in play? Because I, if you do trust your offensive line there, that is something that I would also consider in the modern age.

[Mike]

It's two yards and you're averaging three yards per carry. Like I just was. If that, if he was more aggressive there, I think that game ends very decisively for Miami. We're not saying like, oh, three point game between two top ten teams. I think Mario, this is what I'm trying to do. Deuce as a fan is like, did Mario keep it conservative or did Notre Dame have a better game plan in the second half? Like, I will not know that for sure unless I rewatch this game. Maybe I'll never know. But there were definitely points where I just felt like Miami could have really put the hammer down and they just couldn't do it or wouldn't do it. And that was one of those times.

[Chris]

Scared money don't make money, right, Tony?

[Tony]

Amen.

[Billy]

You covered fiu. You were a part of a giant victory on Friday as the. As the Panthers brothers rolled to. What was it, 42. Nine was the game.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Chris]

No touchdowns allowed against Bethune, UM's next opponent. By the way, Mike, how did your broadcast. What does that mean? Oof. What is that?

[Jessica]

They must be. God, how bad must they be?

[Chris]

What is that? Wait, what is that supposed to mean? Elaborate, please.

[Jessica]

I heard the score. I was just like, I can't wait to hear what school this is.

[Chris]

Yeah, Bethune Cookman. Their band came down for battle of bands. It was awesome.

[Jessica]

I was expecting worse.

[Billy]

Well, you. You lost that, right? You lost that. The Battle of the Bands. FIU is not winning the battle of the Bands again. That was the biggest upset in the history of college football.

[Chris]

There was no official scoring of the Battle of the Bands. It's just called the Battle of the Bands. But Bethune did go second on the road. Yeah, no, there was no, like, official, like, okay, Bethune wins this round, you know, 10 to nine or whatever. It was. Also. Also just because their band is so good. The halftime show took forever because two bands performed and then when the second half was going to start, they had about 90 seconds on the field to warm up, but no one was going to be like, all right, band, you got to get off the field here because like the band leader, it's like his 45th season or something, and he's retiring and his 98 year old mother was there to watch it. What an emotional day.

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard. Jez, you can't talk about double digit national titles won. Every single call of you winning tunnel sounds like this. Oh, there's. There's Chubby Jacket running down the sideline if the audio. Yeah, that's not true.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

And there's a World War II veteran pitching into another white guy. And he avoids another white guy.

[Mike]

Oh, my God.

[Mike Ryan]

Notre Dame.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Fighting Irish have done it again for the eighth time only paying white people.

[Billy]

Stubby Checker.

[Dan Le Batard]

Sorry, he's black. He's black. And I was really going. It was a lady named Chubby Jacker. I picked up like, I'm sorry, man. I'm improv in here.

[Billy]

It's a pretty cool rib checker running down the side.

[Dan Le Batard]

He spells it differently. All right. His name is Chubby. Maybe you didn't hear me correctly.

[Mike Ryan]

His name is Chubby Checkers. There's an S at the end.

[Billy]

I feel like that should be the largest of five.

[Dan Le Batard]

And Chubby Check it. It sounds like a college football name.

[Billy]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stook Scots. I want to talk about some of the other things that happen in college football. There is no example greater that people don't know what they're talking about than when 2 and 10 FSU knocks out Alabama the way that they did. Tommy Castellano said Saban can't save them. And Saban couldn't save them. Alabama got mad about all of that. And Saban warned on game day, don't do that to Alabama. Now on get up today, Green is saying to Paul Feinbaum, do you bring Nick Saban out of retirement right now and allow him to go back to Alabama? And Feinbaum is saying, go on back immediately to Alabama. Let me give you some numbers here. These numbers are crazy. These numbers are crazy. When, when you think of. Don't follow the guy who's been the legend ever. Okay, so when Nick Saban was favored by two touchdowns, he was 131. 1 and 2. So he lost two games out of 133. DeBoer has now lost four of his 14 games in total. But he's 4 and 4 as a two touchdown favorite. And Alabama had gone 230 games without losing to an unranked, unranked opponent. DeBoer has lost four of 14 times to an unranked opponent. Opponent like, and, and, and then Alabama has also lost three of its last four games. They lost three games in a season twice in the last 17 years. Sheesh.

[Mike]

Can I say one thing we haven't discussed yet? Lee Corso absolutely nailing his pick six zero. Picking Florida State, which seemed like such a crazy, crazy homer pick. Homer pick Saturday going for 6 for 6 on the way out was absolutely bananas. And I feel like he, he spoke a lot of this into existence. So good for him going on not.

[Billy]

Six Jessica, but also all the teams he played for and coached also won on Saturday. Like every. Everything went right. He has to in that spot though, pick Texas just to bother those 90,000 people. Like he has to put the longhorn hat on in front of those 90,000 people. That was a biased pick. That was not. That was. That was not authentic. He didn't believe that. I know, but he didn't authentically believe that. He just did it as a crowd. Please.

[Jessica]

Good on the big news, the Fox show, doing what we suggested and literally taking the feed. I. I respect to them.

[Mike]

But then can I also just complain about a game and noon kickoff kicking off at 12:15. Like we need to stop doing this, right?

[Jessica]

Like the Corso thing, you know, they.

[Mike]

Just, they decide when the game kicks off there this. It can be moved. Like they, they. The Mississippi State game that was on ESPN had already kicked off like well before the Texas Ohio State game. And also last night. A.B. i know. Like, I think Chicago, the Chicago market, maybe the Miami market too, had a pregame show in, in my market, I had America's Funniest Home Videos.

[Tony]

And then, yeah, that's what we had. Seven have any program.

[Mike]

7:30 they put on Hard Rock Stadium. No kickoff until after 7:45. Like 16 straight minutes of nothing before they kick it off. I mean, it's gotten out of control.

[Billy]

Dano, can you guys listen to what I'm about to say here and try. I try not to be amazed because I dare you to not be amazed by what I'm about to say Brett McMurphy is saying about Ohio State. After that Texas shellacking and Arch Manning. Good God. Good God, was that terrible. Brett McMurphy points out that these are the last seven games for Ryan Day. Beat number one, Texas 14 7. Beat number three, Notre Dame, 34 to 23. Beat number four Texas 28 14. Beat number one Oregon 4,120 1. Beat number seven Tennessee, 42 17. Beat number five Indiana, 38 15. And then right in the middle of there, like a big giant turd. A 13 to 10 loss to unranked Michigan. The one he. The one he wants most. Like the worst loss there, the worst victory there is against top seven. That's all top seven teams. But he's got unranked Michigan in there just stinking up his life.

[Jessica]

What was going on with his nipples?

[Mike]

Oh, he pierced them.

[Chris]

That was.

[Jessica]

Yeah, that was a sight to see.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Do you see his nipples, Dan?

[Jessica]

Back to you, Dan.

[Billy]

I saw that you tweeted that in celebration he should pierce his other nipple that you were. That you were tweeting.

[Mike]

Question. Did you have no context for that? Because that's very funny. Funny.

[Billy]

No. I knew he had a nipple, Pierce, but I didn't know.

[Dan Le Batard]

He definitely does not right?

[Mike]

He doesn't definitely does.

[Jessica]

I thought it was just cold.

[Tony]

So you had three nipples there, Greg.

[Billy]

I have nipples, Greg. Can you milk me? Jordan Rogers. Jordan Rogers gets to be right then on Arch Manning, like Jordan Rogers was the only media member. There was a runaway freight train of people telling us how great Arch Manning was. Coach O and others were saying, best since Joe. Joe Burrow. And that was borderline incompetent.

[Chris]

Where does someone find Jordan Rogers's thoughts?

[Mike]

Yeah, is he on? He's on one of the networks. I saw him last night actually, but I can't remember.

[Jessica]

My Instagram ad reads like doing like that healthy juice that you see. It's like Mike Rico and Jordan Rogers, they're like, yeah, you gotta.

[Tony]

Rico, really good friend.

[Jessica]

Random people.

[Mike]

To answer your question about Arch, I. He had a really bad game. I am very skeptical, leaning on not great with him. But I also think playing on the road against Ohio State in your opening game is really, really hard. And the next three defenses they play are bottom defenses in college football. They're playing like utep, they're playing San Jose State. Like, defense is ranked like 72nd in DFEI. So I think, think it's very possible that he sort of gets things right. I'm more. I think I'm more. Okay, maybe not more, but a little bit. Putting it on Sark. I thought the red zone offense for Ohio or for Texas was. Was pretty bad. And I don't think you put that all on Arch. Like, even though Ohio State won and they got conservative at the end to try to like, you know, ice out the game, I think the post game win expectancy was. Was pretty low. It was like under 20%. So bad. Bad game for Arch Manning. But I think, you know, he's got a. He's got a few more games to figure it out before they play Even a top 25 defense in Florida, I.

[Billy]

Will make this point too, just because we skip past stuff on the idea that, you know, that's a hard assignment for C.J. carr last night. It's a hard assignment for Arch Manning to go into those places. The defensive coordinator for Ohio State while a clown the last five years years was someone who was. When defensive coordinator of the Patriots frustrated Peyton who was pretty good at football. And so it would stand to reason that Arch would go into that place and perhaps not be prepared for what all of that was because I mean, Matt Patricia has had many, many months to prepare for Arch Manning and we know what Patriots defenses did when they had a lot of time to prepare for things. So I know Matt Patricia is a clown, but Matt Patricia is playing against, against, he's coaching against somebody who hasn't played a lot of actual real top line football.

[Mike]

Yeah, I'm curious to see how that ages throughout the season when they play a little bit better quarterbacks. Matt Patricia is such a weird football character. Like such a horrible tenure with the Lions and then going back to the Patriots and they're being really bad with them again. And then the Eagles thing. They, he was terrible with the Eagles and then the next year they won the super bowl with like the best defense in, in football. So I'm very, I'm not like, I think he's going to do a bad job. I'm not saying I think he's going to do a good job. I think their defense look great in that game. But I'm very curious to see how that turns out.

[Jessica]

I watched Texas Ohio State on Saturday the perfect way because I was out a Friday night. Las Rosas got the best of me. I was tired, all right. So I got on my couch. I bet the under. I fall asleep and just check in on that game throughout it seven nothing. Seven to ten, seven in the third quarter. I was just like the under was in the whole time time. Nice little nappy poo. Get ready for the 3:30 games. Fantastic.

[Chris]

So you watch it the best way possible and not watching it at all.

[Tony]

10, seven also have two safeties. Did I, did I miss those?

[Jessica]

It was 10 to seven at some point late and it was just like the under was always in. I'm just telling you, you guys want to have a nice afternoon? You bet an under on a game and then you just check in in the third quarter and it's just clearly under. Oh, delightful.

[Mike]

That's another, another complaint I have about Saturday. Chris, I, I know you found your nap window. I could not because that Florida State, Alabama game. I thought it would be a snooze. Ended up being one of the most exciting weekend. And then rolled straight into Clemson, lsu, which was also a really good game. And there was just no time to take a nap, even on Sunday. I mean, I dozed a little bit in the third quarter of Virginia Tech, South Carolina, but, I mean, it wasn't. It wasn't restful at all.

[Billy]

Billy, what are you laughing about?

[Chris]

The final score is 14 to 7. So it was never 10 7.

[Tony]

Never 10 7, 7.

[Jessica]

The under was always in.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right?

[Jessica]

Relaxing, not paying attention.

[Billy]

And. And Las Rosas got you the night before you said it. I do think that we all need to. I know nobody cares about this, I'm sure, other than Ohio State, but there has never, ever been a team in college football as good as stopping people in short yardage situations as. As the last two years of Ohio State football. I know nobody can get a short yard on them.

[Tony]

And the other thing, too. Nobody's bold enough here to say it. Arch Manning, even though he did. Did, you know, not look great, had some moments where he flashed that one.

[Mike]

I agree with you, Tony.

[Chris]

He threw a.

[Tony]

He threw an absolute laser deep in his own territory.

[Mike]

Right between.

[Tony]

Yeah, between the. Between the safety and the corner that he put it directly on there alongside the field. So it was like, whoa, those throws are there. It felt like Sark kind of betrayed him a little bit, but there was flashes where Arc was like, oh, wait a second, Arch. Excuse me. I have the thing where I go, arc. Arch. Yeah, like, Archipelago, too.

[Mike]

I. It just. It was kind of.

[Tony]

At all.

[Mike]

It was a bummer seeing him miss, like, the short, easy throws, though.

[Tony]

Like, first one of the game was brutal, where he skipped an open, open pass that would have gone for 25 yards.

[Jessica]

Everyone turned into a quarterback coach. They're like, look at the mechanics on this throw. Like, all right, everyone, shut up.

[Billy]

Wait a minute. What. What everyone did there. What everyone did there was. Oh, that's what happens in the throwing motion when your sphincter's really tight, right? Like, it gets.

[Jessica]

There were a few cliffs where everyone's like, look. Arm angle, look.

[Chris]

Footwork.

[Jessica]

It's like, everyone.

[Mike]

That is one of my favorite things, though, as, like, I'm not a quarterback guru at all, but I can tell when it looks kind of weird and, like, sometimes I'll watch college football quarterbacks, and I'm like, that looks kind of weird.

[Billy]

I. I would say it always looks kind of weird, though, when they skip the pass at the feet of the receiver, when it comes away, you know.

[Mike]

Like, arm angles is the thing you gotta master over time. So I'm told, like, all of those.

[Jessica]

Ohio State defenders will at least be on a practice squad. Squad, right?

[Mike]

I mean, close maybe.

[Jessica]

I mean, that's just. That's what we're talking about here, though. So I'm gonna give them a.

[Tony]

That's the bar. Some of them will be.

[Billy]

They lost seven starters on defense. They. They lost seven starters. Like, yes, Ohio State did some of that to him, but also he was awful. Like, he was awful. He's got. It's not like Ohio State's athletes are that much better than Texas's athletes. He was awful.

[Mike]

Texas. Texas lost a bunch of players too. So it was. I mean, I think these like week one games, the road teams other than LSU did not play their best games. I think LSU was really the exception there. Alabama may have bigger fish to fry. I don't know what's going on with them, but they just did not look like they were ready to play in that game. They were not really physical at all and just got totally stomped by Florida State. And so, I mean, maybe there's something to that. I think another thing is, like going into that game, I think the unders were. Were like 14 and 2 in this first 16 games. With FBS versus SBFS teams so hard to score in opening weekends. I think even Notre Dame, Miami, for as much scoring as there was, hit the under. I believe the under 49.

[Tony]

So 51 and a half.

[Mike]

51 and a half. Okay. Well, there you go. I mean, it was. It was a opening weekend. You kind of expect the offenses to have some work to do and defenses are just able to play a little faster and freer maybe.

[Billy]

So we are back Belichick in a little while and apparently the guest list, it's going to be a hell of a celebrity guest list of Julius Peppers and Lawrence Taylor and a whole bunch of people are going to be showing up. Belichick evidently is a three and a half point dog in the game. Michael Jordan is gonna. Is evidently going to be there.

[Jessica]

Eric.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Jessica]

Everybody.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow.

[Mike]

Tyler.

[Tony]

Our studded event.

[Mike]

What'd you guys think of Dabo on Saturday night, do you think? I'm not sure about Thompson.

[Jessica]

Do you think he's. He's. How old is Dabo? Do you think he had before? Every season does like a run down the hill just to make sure he still got it, you know, like he's in his no cameras with no one looking videos. Let me make sure I still Got it. And then why is there.

[Chris]

Why is there canon so little like. And why is it on a U haul like dolly that they run down the hall? They launch the can and they run it down like a little dolly. And then the guy's trying to avoid the mascots. Like, why don't we like affix the cannon onto something like on this side and not run down with a cannon.

[Mike]

What if they leave the cannon on the hill? That's where the freshmen stand during games and then the freshmen blow it off during a game. I feel like that that's a hazard.

[Billy]

Tom Brady's supposed to be there today. Mike Tyson, Jeff Bezos is supposed to be there.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, no, those were guys that were all at the game last year night for Miami. There were a lot of VIPs, Ron.

[Mike]

DeSantis with Jim Kelly.

[Dan Le Batard]

Saw him in the board, was there last night. Yeah, I mean, he lives down here. Apparently. Jess, isn't his son enrolling in Notre Dame.

[Mike]

I have heard that. I don't know if that's true. I think his. I think he's just turned 18. I don't really. I didn't really know his oldest was college age yet. I heard that all of those people, Bezos, Brady, Trump's, I think Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner live on an island right off of Surfside where apparently they've had some like legal battles over where their poop goes after they poop. And they have. They've now foisted their poop on the city of Surfside. I look into it. I saw an article about it. It seemed very interesting, all this and.

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[Tony]

Dan. You're gonna appreciate this. I was over at my parents house watching the first half of the game. We leave during halftime and I'm getting to the house.

[Jessica]

Classic newborn parent thing leaving at halftime.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Tony]

She was starting to get a little fussy, so I was like, you know what, babe? We'll go to the. We'll go to the house. No worries. Dan, as I was driving over, put on wqam, was listening to Joe Zagaki.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay.

[Tony]

It was just perfect. He called the touchdown drive. That first drive where they went for seven, you know, 10 minute, seven minutes, 15 plays, where whatever it was, it was just a thing of beauty. Jim Kelly joined DBJ and Zagaki after a little while talking about the 1981 game.

[Mike]

Can you introduce me to Ron DeSantis? He's in your boot. He's in your box.

[Tony]

I think I heard him in the background in the. In the. Love what he's doing down here, the broadcast booth. But, Dan, it was just perfect. My wife's like, that's Joe Zagaki. And I'm like, yeah, babe, if you gotta go, you gotta go. Oregon.

[Billy]

Don't you. Don't you believe that when you leave to go get food, it affects the outcome of. Of games?

[Tony]

Depends. The thing is, if you got to do it pregame.

[Jessica]

Yeah, Tony's right.

[Tony]

If you leave pre game and get what you gotta get and then come back before kickoff, you're good, right? If you go at halftime, you're good. You can never leave during the actual game. You got to send somebody else to do that or order it in. Like we have the modern convenience of all the different apps now. But if you leave during the game window. Yeah, you're done. You're cooked.

[Chris]

Did leave, though. You went. Went home.

[Tony]

Yeah, but I was in the halftime.

[Jessica]

At halftime, Billy, it's a different.

[Tony]

Exactly, exactly. Plus, I was listening to Jose Gaki, which actually reverses the curse. So when you listen on live radio, on am, now fm, they can hear us in Jupiter. That's what Big Dog says. So when. When you hear it on the radio, the planet.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Tony]

That's what Big Dog makes it seem like, right, Mike? Am I crazy?

[Billy]

I. I want to ask all these aliens listening to me, yes or no question. Carter Davis goes out there to take that kick at the end of the game. Game. We do all of this analysis, but Carter Davis goes out there to take that kick. Billy, you expected him to make it or miss it?

[Chris]

I was hoping he would miss it, but I thought he was gonna make it.

[Billy]

I expected him to miss it. Chris, what did you expect?

[Jessica]

Felt like overtime.

[Billy]

Jess, what were you expecting?

[Mike]

I don't know. I had no Expectation I, I had fully disassociated at that point, Dan. I was viewing the game through someone else's mind body.

[Dan Le Batard]

Tony, I thought he was gonna yank.

[Mike]

Looked like it was kind of going.

[Dan Le Batard]

Going a little wide right, painting the.

[Tony]

Goal post the entire time on the extra points too. I was like.

[Billy]

It wasn't just all the stats they were giving to me, it was just everything that was happening with the conservative nature of the game that was going to end with people yelling the way they yelled when he didn't kneel at the end of the Georgia Tech game. Mike, you were expecting him to make the kick.

[Dan Le Batard]

I had. I want to know part of that kick. I wanted, I wanted. I want to know part of watching it or experien. I. I was sitting next to Kevin Clark at, at. At the game and he was just such a bundle of nerves that I guess it rubbed off on me and I just. I.

[Billy]

Look at me, Lou.

[Mike]

Look at me, Louie. For Kevin Clark, who did that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Well, he just got me so nervous because he was so like dialed into the game and in the fourth quarter it, it just like went off the rails for him that you've never gotten an ancillary anxiety. I was just caught up in a force field of anxiety and I had to get the hell out of there. So I just ran down to the tunnel as they lined up to what?

[Tony]

To hit that one for that hit. Hit it again.

[Jessica]

That's what I did for the Alex Gonzalez home run. That back in the World Series, like sometimes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I didn't wanna, I didn't want to watch a kick. I was just like listening. I was listening to the crowd. And when.

[Chris]

I mean the tunnel, he means the.

[Tony]

Actual tunnel where the players run out.

[Mike]

The way this game played out was very eer to the Orange bowl between Notre Dame and Penn State in that it felt like Notre Dame got outplayed in the first half. But there was a small league going into halftime. Obviously a little bit bigger lead for Miami because they did convert that touchdown right before the half. But going into halftime, like not an insurmountable lead. And then Notre Dame made some adjustments and came back, kept it close. It came down to a game winning field goal. I mean, that's exactly, exactly the same score as the Orange bowl, same game winning kick. The only difference is Notre Dame still had a minute left after the kick and they just were not able to do anything because Miami just wrecked them on the offense, wrecked their offensive line. But very, very weirdly similar game script there. And Those were also two top 10 teams.

[Chris]

It didn't really impact the game. But I thought it was weird that the Hard Rock scheduled a football game there on Saturday and there was a game played there on Saturday. There was horrible weather and then the bigger game was played on Sunday, which you'd think the field could have been in disastrous shape which like you know, shout out to their grounds crew for not letting it play. Be that. But playing the Orange Blossom Classic the day before a nationally televised game seems like a strange decision for me because like we would see that when um would play, then the Dolphins would play the next game that a lot of times the Dolphins field was in rough shape.

[Billy]

I missed the days when they used to play in baseball stadiums and oh.

[Chris]

I love the field was on there. Yeah, that was the best.

[Billy]

The soggy infield. The soggy infield. Let's leave on this note here because you mentioned that Michael Irvin was at the the game last night with a, a Stephen, a Smith and a fedora. Go ahead Billy.

[Chris]

Which did you like more? The baseball game that was played with like the 10 yard line drawn in the middle of center field or the football game where the pitchers mound is where they're kicking field goals from and it often like threw the ball off to the side.

[Billy]

Let's open the show tomorrow with that. Let's close this one today with Michael Irvin just dancing on the sidelines being max maximum. Michael Irvin.

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