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Dan Le Batard
this is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach Podcast.
Stugotz
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Greg Cody
I will say it again. It is the greatest call in sports history. Knocking out do youo Believe in Miracles? By Al Michaels. It is Matt Pinto of the Oklahoma City Thunder Radio Network.
Basketball Announcer
Wembanyama has it left wing Castle Petrel and Wemby lean in. 30 foot three to tie is in there. 26.3 to play.
Greg Cody
Biggest play of the season is in there. And so crushing that the announcer can't get any emotion except for defeated Despondent is in there.
Basketball Announcer
26.3 to play.
Tony Kornheiser
30 foot three pointer is in there to tie the game.
Basketball Announcer
30 foot three to tie is in there.
Chris Cote
It's the biggest play of the season. Not for the spurs.
Stugotz
The league.
Basketball Announcer
30 foot three to tie is in there.
Greg Cody
We go now to our spurs correspondent, Michelle Beadle. Michelle, welcome. Go.
Michelle Beadle
Thank you. Yes, thanks for having me guys. I just want to point out that candles were lit last night. The voodoo was successful. And this is what happens when you hand an MVP award out in front of a man who very much thought he deserved the MVP award a la Hakim Olajuwon, David Robinson. And it was absolutely glorious. Nerve wracking, infuriating at times, annoying by way of Alex Caruso and just One of the most glorious, satisfying games I've ever witnessed. That three. You know, if you have close neighbors that we all lost our minds, it's just. It looked like a movie had been scripted this way. I have listened to former players, legends, hall of Famers, run out of words in describing Victor Wembanyama. And we are just starting this movie. And I'd also like to point out Chet Holmgren should probably find some pride. You need to deal with Wemby. I know you don't like him. I know he's your boogeyman, but you have to. You've known this kid since you guys were in your early teens. You've been playing against each other, and you disappear when this man is on the floor. And I'm only saying this as a friend, obviously, it's glorious, guys. One of the greatest games I've ever watched in my entire life. Going to the finals, baby. Okay, sorry. That part was not.
Stugotz
Edit that.
Michelle Beadle
Thank you.
Greg Cody
Edit it out. Thank you, Michelle. We'll get out of here.
Tony Reali
Clip that. I'm gonna clip that and say that for later.
Tony Kornheiser
We'll talk to you next time. Thank you for being on with us.
Jeremy Schaap
Those two must have looked so awkward at age 13.
Greg Cody
I wonder if Chet Holmgren says to himself, I could have been born at
Tony Kornheiser
any time in history,
Greg Cody
and I had
Tony Kornheiser
to be born when this guy was born.
Tony Reali
She's absolutely right. Have some pride, man. Look in the mirror. You're soft. You're weak. Whenever number one shows in the town, where are you? You're as tall as a mouse.
Jeremy Schaap
He can't look in the mirror because he's taller than the mirror.
Tony Reali
You get the mirror, you pick it up and you hold it where your eyesight is.
Jeremy Schaap
Like in a hotel. Like, all right, I look good.
Tony Reali
No, he doesn't look good. You know why? Because Wemby's there and he's scared. Where's Wemby? He turns into a mouse. He turns into one foot tall.
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Tony Reali
Okay, like right here. Go up and stand.
Mike Ryan
Throw an elbow.
Tony Reali
Do something, man.
Jeremy Schaap
Shouldn't that have been goaltending late in the game? Come on. This is not allowed to. Just throw the ball to the rim and he catches it and just drops it in. That was on that. That was goaltending.
Stugotz
Imagine when he's fully grown to 8:1.
Jeremy Schaap
I don't care if it wasn't goaltending. That should be goaltending.
Mike Ryan
Everyone agrees with Tony, hates the spurs
Greg Cody
in a way that I think is unreasonable.
Chris Cote
He was just telling me a few minutes ago. I. I Can't get over. I still can't get over 2014.
Tony Reali
True.
Chris Cote
When the spurs beat the Heat, I'm like, there. There's. There's no.
Tony Kornheiser
There's.
Tony Reali
Where's your pride?
Mike Ryan
Where's your pride?
Tony Reali
Where's your pride? You were there, Popovic. You saw it happen.
Mike Ryan
I know.
Chris Cote
I was there.
Mike Ryan
They turned the AC off.
Tony Reali
They turned the AC off.
Chris Cote
I mean, Popovich isn't there anymore. Leonard Duncan, like, it's. It's not thing.
Tony Reali
But here's the thing. You're thinking of it as a person. I'm thinking of it as the organization. As. As what they. What The.
Valerie
The.
Tony Reali
The stain they are in the league. The San Antonio Spurs.
Greg Cody
Nobody thinks that.
Tony Reali
I think that. And there's dozens with me somewhere. Somewhere listening to me being like, you know what?
Mike Ryan
Yeah, I.
Tony Reali
The Spurs. Oh, what? They get lucky with the lottery. They got a generational player after getting lucky in the lottery the last time, getting a generational player, and they just go on a run of five titles and they are.
Greg Cody
They are the luckiest team in the history of the lottery.
Mike Ryan
Does that make you wonder that they are.
Tony Reali
Does that make you wonder?
Chris Cote
You know, it is kind of. Because it's one thing to land three number one overall picks when well documented. The Miami Heat have never moved up in the lottery. But the three times that the spurs get the number one overall pick, it happens to be each year we know there's a transcendent player. Robinson, Duncan, Wembanyama, like it wasn't a surprise.
Tony Kornheiser
And they got Kawhi in there too.
Tony Reali
Hall of Famers everywhere. And everybody just wants them to be
Miller Lite Advertiser
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Tony Reali
Underdog. Spurs.
Jeremy Schaap
Yeah.
Tony Reali
Go spurs, go. No, no.
Mike Ryan
Absolutely not.
Tony Reali
They're Darth Vader.
Greg Cody
Okay, put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Are the Spurs, Darth Vader and a stain on the league. I don't. They hadn't won a playoff series since 2017. Right. Do I have that correct? Has it been. Has it liter.
Mike Ryan
Literally been nine years since Sha Zsa
Chris Cote
took out Kawhi Leonard. That was the end.
Stugotz
Yeah. You can't be Darth Vader if you have a long spell of not being dominant.
Tony Kornheiser
Darth Vader with a nine year losing streak, running the Galaxy.
Tony Reali
Oh, my bad. The five titles in 17 years didn't do it for you, Greg?
Stugotz
No. What have you done for me lately? You know?
Jeremy Schaap
Thank you for leaning into the mic.
Valerie
Yeah, thanks.
Greg Cody
Let's do movies with your father. He's reeling because he doesn't like that his ignorance is on display.
Jeremy Schaap
All right, Greg, doing terrible so far. Zero for two. Not even close to getting one right. Let's see what number three is.
Stugotz
Do you like apples?
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah.
Tony Reali
Well, I got a number. How do you like them apples?
Greg Cody
This is breathtaking.
Stugotz
Why can't you give me a normal.
Tony Kornheiser
They are normal.
Stugotz
Greg, we're giving everybody.
Tony Kornheiser
Greg, we're giving you easy ones.
Greg Cody
Do you recognize the voice? No.
Tony Reali
You like apples?
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Tony Reali
Well, I got a number. How do you like them apples?
Chris Cote
How iconic a movie line as there is.
Jeremy Schaap
How do you like them apples?
Chris Cote
Is just one.
Jeremy Schaap
It's probably top 10 most iconic movie lines ever.
Stugotz
Sounds like a mob movie.
Jeremy Schaap
I may have overstated it, but It's
Stugotz
a Danny DeVito character.
Valerie
No.
Chris Cote
From all those mob movies DeVito did, right?
Stugotz
Yeah. You can't. By the way, how do you like them apples? Cannot be called one of the greatest lines in movie history.
Tony Reali
Are you talking about Joe Pesci or Danny DeVito?
Stugotz
I'm talking about Pesci. Okay.
Tony Reali
You said DeVito. That's why.
Valerie
Which was a mob movie. Really?
Stugotz
Jimmy Hoffa. Yeah, that's the name of the movie. Jimmy Hoffa.
Tony Reali
How do you like them?
Stugotz
Is that true?
Valerie
No.
Stugotz
Oh, what was it called?
Jeremy Schaap
Ben Affleck and Matt Damon wrote this movie.
Stugotz
Ah, look at that.
Jeremy Schaap
Robin Williams showing the answer. Okay.
Stugotz
Goodwill Hunty. Yeah, yeah, I've heard of the movie.
Greg Cody
What do you think an easy one sounds like? I'm curious. Like, what is a movie line that you would consider easy? Because we think we're giving you easy ones, so. What? What? We gave you the Godfather. What? Like what?
Stugotz
The Godfather. I would know, but.
Greg Cody
Well, you didn't know it last week.
Jeremy Schaap
I have one here. I got one here. Let's throw him a softball.
Mike Ryan
We've been.
Tony Kornheiser
We've been throwing him softball.
Tony Reali
He said I would get the Godfather. We gave him the Godfather.
Jeremy Schaap
He didn't know what I would call my dad's, like, window for movies. Like, I know he knows this movie. So let's see.
Stugotz
You're gonna need a bigger pouch. Oh, yeah. Okay. That's Jaws. Of course.
Jeremy Schaap
Thank you.
Stugotz
I mean,
Valerie
that was a beach ball
Stugotz
that's in my wheelhouse.
Jeremy Schaap
Sometimes you just gotta throw them a little. You gotta tickle them a little.
Stugotz
I was going to movies back then. I still reject that. That's a horror film. I don't think it is, but a great movie.
Greg Cody
Greatest horror movie of all time. Put it on the poll at LeBatard show is Jaws. It is considered the greatest horror movie of all time.
Stugotz
You know, considered a horror movie.
Greg Cody
Greg Cody continues to insist it's not a horror movie.
Valerie
A man was eaten by a shark.
Stugotz
It doesn't matter. That doesn't make it horrible.
Greg Cody
Many, many people.
Tony Reali
Doesn't make it right.
Stugotz
It doesn't make it right. You're right.
Jeremy Schaap
You want to do one more? Here's another one with Yamaha.
Basketball Announcer
Has a left wing castle patrolling WEMBY leaning 30 foot, three to tie is in there. 26.3 to play.
Jeremy Schaap
What was that?
Stugotz
I'd like to see a movie made out of that. Are you kidding me? But this guy's getting a lot of. A lot of stick, a lot of criticism. What do you expect them to do? Be is start celebrating the. The score you. He's with the enemy broadcast team. What's he supposed to do? Act like it's a wonderful shot. You know, he's supposed to do exactly what he did.
Jeremy Schaap
I don't think people are saying it's a bad call. We're just laughing at his pain.
Stugotz
Okay, that's fair.
Greg Cody
And it's.
Tony Kornheiser
And it's muted pain, right?
Greg Cody
Because I would say what he's supposed to do is die a little bit in anguish, not try and smother it
Tony Kornheiser
down with a lack of emotion. Pretending it's a regular season game. Yeah, a game for first period.
Basketball Announcer
Wembanyama has a left wing castle petroleum. Wemby lean in. 30 foot three to tie is in there. 20. 26.3 to play.
Stugotz
He actually, he acts like he knew that it was going in. He didn't know?
Greg Cody
No.
Mike Ryan
Well, what happened there?
Greg Cody
I will tell you what happened there. The 26.3 to play is just a coping mechanism.
Tony Kornheiser
He was defeated and he's just like, let me give the.
Greg Cody
I'm going to look at the clock
Tony Kornheiser
and give the time because that hurt me.
Mike Ryan
So.
Basketball Announcer
30 foot three to tie is in there. 26.3 to play.
Greg Cody
Speaking of the movies, though, I wanted to accentuate John Travolta, his new look here, because over the many years that I have known John Travolta or have watched John Travolta, I don't know John Travolta. He has had many looks because he's bald. He's famously bald and he's bald.
Tony Kornheiser
He wears.
Greg Cody
He wears an assortment of wigs and
Tony Kornheiser
contraptions and things on his head to
Mike Ryan
conceal that he's been bald since I
Tony Kornheiser
think Quentin Tarantino resurrected his career in Pulp Fiction. Another movie that Greg Cody would not get any of my wheelhouse lines from.
Greg Cody
Oh, you think you'd get Pulp Fiction?
Tony Reali
We'll see we'll see about that. So this. This new look from John Travolta broke over the timeline. This weekend. I was getting ready to go to MMA hangout, and apparently over in Cons, where they were doing the film festival.
Chris Cote
A powerful pronounce the s at the end, huh?
Tony Reali
Cons.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Chris Cote
All right.
Greg Cody
I think it's Khan.
Tony Reali
That's kind of. I could show you a couple.
Greg Cody
I think you are too.
Tony Reali
I can show you a couple cons. Exactly right. So when this. When this look came out, I was like, wow. Travolta, a man of many looks, a master of disguise, some would say. When he pulled out with the beret, with the. With the soulful beret and. And beard combo, not connecting the mustache to the beard also, it's just like a different look with the glasses. I was like, what is going on here and why is it so powerful? It speaks to me, Dan. And there was a couple different instances of John Travolta wearing berets and kind of walking around with, hey, this is my new look. And he did. He did break his silence recently. I don't know if you want to hear about the look from John Travolta himself.
Greg Cody
Yeah, I would. Put it on the poll, please. Is John Travolta a man of many looks? Some would say, let's hear from John Travolta here on his new beret look.
John Travolta (clip)
The old school directors wore berets.
Stugotz
And the glasses.
John Travolta (clip)
And the glasses. And I thought, that's what I'm doing. I've been around for over 50 years doing movies, but I can't tell when I look back the difference between the events. And I said, I'm a director this time. You're an actor. Play the part of a director. Look like an old school director. So I looked up pictures, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s. And the old school directors wore berets and the glasses. And I thought, that's what I'm doing. I'm going to do an homage to being a director. So I'm going to play the part of being a director, and then when I look back, I'll know, oh, that was Propeller One Way Night Coach. That was Cannes. That's when I won the Palme d'. Or. And I'll have vividness of it.
Greg Cody
Did he pronounce any of those words right?
Tony Reali
Image was spot on, by the way.
Mike Ryan
Homage.
Greg Cody
Well, I don't. Is that also how you pronounce Palme d'?
Stugotz
Or?
Greg Cody
It might be, but I thought it was homage. I didn't think it was.
Stugotz
It Is homage.
Greg Cody
He pronounced it differently. But maybe it's the beret. Maybe it just changes a man.
Tony Kornheiser
Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Does the beret change a man?
Tony Reali
There's also, you know, as of recent, there's been an assembly of soulful white guys that have made the rounds on social media. And I want to put up a little bit of a. I gotta be in here. Of a montage here. Obviously. We've got Jack Harlow with his Talib Kweli look. We've got Billy Bob Thornton, whatever he's rocking there with the goat, you know.
Mike Ryan
Is that Billy Bob. That's Billy Bob Thornton.
Valerie
Looks like Konheiser.
Stugotz
Yeah, I like that.
Tony Kornheiser
It does look like.
Valerie
Is that.
Tony Kornheiser
Wait a minute. That's not Billy.
Mike Ryan
Is that Billy Thornton?
Tony Kornheiser
How can.
Jeremy Schaap
Photo of him.
Mike Ryan
But that doesn't look anything like Billy Bob Thorton. John Travolta. Look. That. That beard is painted on.
Greg Cody
That's lacquer or chapaporte.
Mike Ryan
That, that, that Carlos Boozer.
Jeremy Schaap
Whatever Carlos Boozer had for the audio audience. I believe it's the Billy Bob Thornton on the Colbert Show. Is that the Colbert Show, Tony?
Tony Reali
I think so.
Jeremy Schaap
I believe that it's pretty famous.
Tony Reali
Also Jamiro. Quiet. Didn't like his quotes recently. By the way. Did you see those?
Greg Cody
I did not.
Tony Reali
Did not.
Chris Cote
Did things coming out of.
Tony Reali
Did not like those quotes.
Valerie
Talking about quotes.
Tony Reali
I didn't. I don't ever want to see or hear. That's what.
Greg Cody
Now you have to give them to me because I don't know what you're talking about. Maybe the audience does. I don't know what you're talking about.
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Mike Ryan
Uh huh.
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Jeremy Schaap
When you open that with the can though, and you.
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Jeremy Schaap
I have goosebumps thinking about the first sip.
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Jeremy Schaap
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Tony Reali
I know it well. It's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
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Greg Cody
Walking like this.
Dan Le Batard
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Tony Reali
It has that effect on people.
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Tony Reali
Keep it Cuervo, baby.
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Stugotz
LeBatard the elephant went into a 711 and bought a pack of cigarettes. But My question to Ron is this.
Dan Le Batard
Stugats.
Tony Kornheiser
That joke didn't really land the way you wanted it to, did it?
Greg Cody
We all just stared at it.
Dan Le Batard
This is the Don Levatar show with the Stugach.
Greg Cody
I do want, though, to just, at
Mike Ryan
some point during what it is that
Greg Cody
we're doing here, just put up an assortment of John Travolta looks over the years, because he has put, as I've said, a number of things, including a ferret on his head in order to disguise his baldness. It's the way that Zaslo wears the cap. And we really don't talk about John Travolta unless we're playing the sound of him trying to. Trying to mispronounce a name.
John Travolta (clip)
Please welcome the wickedly talented one and only.
Jeremy Schaap
That's a Dina Menzel.
Tony Reali
He's trying to say the man is a wordsmith. Let's be honest. Okay. And there's Billy Bob Thornton on the Colbert Show.
Jeremy Schaap
See, I knew it.
Greg Cody
So that's a gypsy. That's a gypsy look he's going for.
Tony Reali
Say gypsy, I think soulful white.
Jeremy Schaap
It's a beanie over a fedora. Just so we know how that look gets done wearing a fedora. And then he put a beanie over the fedora.
Tony Reali
And if we could pull up the soulful white guy's quad there. We also have Jamiroquai, who has a big hat of some sort.
Chris Cote
I'm very disturbed by this Jamiroquai.
Tony Reali
Thank you.
Jeremy Schaap
Jeremy, you got it wrong. It's the fedora's over the beanie. Come on, don't be ridiculous. You were ridiculous.
Greg Cody
Well, I'm glad that's a good contribution. I think you guys just arguing about whether or not he got that right or not is good.
Stugotz
Yeah, the fedora is on top of the Whatever else that thing is.
Mike Ryan
All right, good. Let's stay there.
Chris Cote
Listen to this Jamiroquai. Dan Facts. He broke up with Winona Ryder. All right. You know Winona Ryder, right?
Valerie
Yes.
Chris Cote
Jamiroquais quote, she has this enormous breasts, bigger than they look on film. She had this habit of constantly wanting to play hide the sausage.
Jeremy Schaap
It was exhausting, the word association with her stealing. Right? Winona Ryder. She stole.
Stugotz
She steal.
Greg Cody
She was a shoplifter. Yes, shoplifter. She did some shoplifting. So did Juwan Howard here in Miami. It was a strange.
Tony Reali
Listen to what Zaz said.
Chris Cote
Everybody said something about hide the sausage, Dan.
Tony Reali
She said that she was too blessed and to wanted to play hide the sausages too much for him.
Valerie
He couldn't keep up whatever wow.
Tony Reali
Quotes I didn't want to hear. Don't like them.
Greg Cody
You don't like him and you don't
Tony Kornheiser
like the spurs either.
Tony Reali
Exactly right. I stand on both of those. Stand on business on both of those. Jamir Quiet quotes. Don't like them. Spurs don't like them.
Greg Cody
By yeah, Tony Kornheiser is saying or he said on PTI yesterday. Quote I'm very disappointed in the playoffs. It's like 75% of the games are routes. I'm struggling to remember two games in a row that were close, that had drama. Know if last night rescues that feeling for you, but that was elite basketball being played by two teams. And I'm not kidding you when I say that if you're in the west and you're the Lakers, how do you look at that amount of youth and that amount of depth and say we can keep up even with the stars that we have? If you're the Timberwolves, how do you look at what it is that you're watching in that game and keep up up with that? If you're Denver, how do you look at that and keep up with that?
Mike Ryan
If you're Houston, how it's those teams are too young, OKC is too deep and OKC is playing, I believe, the only team in the world that can beat them. It's the Amin said what he said
Greg Cody
yesterday about thinking that OKC will route
Mike Ryan
the spurs and that may yet happen. But what happened in that game yesterday, from the beginning, from the top of the game, is OKC has problems with that team. They look bad against that team in a way they don't look against anybody else this year. They have not just been beaten by the spurs, they've been throttled by the spurs. And they were throttled by the spurs when Zaz was sitting here saying that OKC was going to win 80 games this season because it looked like they, you know, look, they started whatever it was. I don't even remember what it 24
Chris Cote
and 1, but that was like five months ago, Dan. Let's get past that already.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, 25 and 1 or 24 and 1, but not even healthy like so Jalen Williams comes back last night, dear, and Fox is out and they beat you on your home court. Now that might have something to do with the fact that everyone says, Jokic,
Greg Cody
everyone says you don't want time off this time of year. You want some time off, but you
Mike Ryan
don't want a week off.
Greg Cody
That it shows in that first quarter.
Mike Ryan
It's not A coincidence that the Thunder went longer without scoring to open the game with their fans standing than they have all season because they weren't quite in the rhythm that you have to be. And playing that speed of basketball, playoff
Greg Cody
basketball, which is, you know, obviously another intensity.
Tony Reali
And they said as much on the broadcast. The person who was doing silent was like, I was just in the huddle with, you know, Oklahoma City listening to what they were saying, and Cruz was like, guys, wake up. Like, we haven't played in a week, but like, we gotta go. And it's like that, that length of, of time where you're not in the rotation every day doing, you know, your workouts, doing your games, doing all the prep and doing everything, like it completely changes the way that you play well.
Stugotz
And Dan asked the rhetorical question, what do you do if you're another good team in the West? Looking up at those two teams? The answer is you panic. You panic because you realize that the two best teams in the west are led by the two best players in the league. And they're both very young and just now coming into their prime. And for the next five, seven, eight years, it's going to be a two horse race in the NBA, not just in the West. Everything can change. Injuries can change everything. But right now it just looks like a two team domination. Like the beginning of an epic rivalry between teams and two star players.
Tony Reali
I feel like I got to push back a little bit on that because I really liked how Denver would match up against San Antonio. Right. They just got a bad matchup with Minnesota in the first round. That didn't allow that to happen because when Joker plays against Wemby, he dominates. I don't know if you've seen the splits with Joker and Wemby. Like he's averaging like 30 some odd points, like 15 assists, 15 rebounds, like he dominates. And Minnesota has had success with Oklahoma City. So it might have just been this year. You're looking around saying, man, the matchups really didn't fall in our favor. But going forward, Minnesota can get healthy if they can play against Oklahoma City. Like that nullifies Oklahoma City a little bit. Denver against, against San Antonio, like there's matchups there that make sense.
Chris Cote
You can't just do nothing if you're the other teams, because it's not like, all right, let's wait out this window before we decide to make a big move. He's 22 years old. Like this may be the case for another 10 years. You can't just sit around and do nothing.
Greg Cody
Well, I Think the thing that might be getting lost in here, wherever it is that the hyperventilation resides. And I know that we can be prisoner of the moment. Anybody can. Reacting to whatever it is that happened last night. But the thing that I don't think can be said loudly enough in terms of its rarity. He's 22. Like, that's not allowed to win.
Mike Ryan
That's just never allowed to win. It doesn't. That grows into winning. That's not allowed to win at the start. You don't have a. You do not have a 22. He is still 22, right? He's not yet 23, is he. Is he 23 yet?
Tony Reali
They're all under 22. And that's Harper. That's him. And that's. And it's Castle.
Mike Ryan
That's.
Greg Cody
That's the part that is staggering.
Mike Ryan
They're not formed. They're not as good as they're going to be.
Greg Cody
It.
Mike Ryan
This is just them starting. And the way this is supposed to go is they lose this series and they figure it out next year or the year after that when he'll be 24. Like, the thing that happened with LeBron here in Miami is they got an MVP in his prime at 25. But he came here because he couldn't win. Like, the reason he came here is, yeah, he was plenty great, but what he faced in Boston was older and better at 22 years old. This is asinine, what I just said to you about Shaquille o'. Neal. This game, statistically, has not been had by anybody this deep in the playoffs, except for 2001. Shaq, who is the most dominant player that year anyone's ever seen. Like, it's you, if you want to go, Wilt, maybe. But the way that Shaq says, and nobody refutes it, I'm the most dominant that there has ever been. The season that he did, that was 2001, and he had to fail a bunch in Orlando. He had to change teams. Like the original Shaq. I remember seeing. I think it was. Was it his first game here in Miami? I don't know whether he played his
Greg Cody
first game here in Miami. It wasn't very good, but he was
Mike Ryan
somebody who was skinnier and could dribble the length of the court at his size.
Greg Cody
And no one had seen that.
Mike Ryan
Like, he would go on fast breaks, and everybody would just have to get out of the way because you're not going to take a charge on that.
Chris Cote
It was his first game ever. It was in Orlando against the Heat.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
And and he wasn't very good in that one. But he had to go almost 10 years before he learned a post up game. And this guy's taking 30 footers with 26 seconds left in the game. That shot reminded me. Do you guys remember the shot that Klay Thompson made in the third quarter
Greg Cody
against OKC years ago when it looked like Golden State was in big trouble against Durant and Westbrook and Clay just pulled up from 30.
Tony Reali
Was that the 37 point quarter?
Greg Cody
That was. I don't. Was it the third? No, I don't think that was. No, but he had a shot.
Mike Ryan
He had. They were down 9 or something and
Greg Cody
it looked like they were in deep trouble against Oklahoma City. And Clay just pulled up from 35ft.
Mike Ryan
I cannot tell you how absurd it is to see someone that size and that age shooting from there in that situation.
Stugotz
Right. Yeah. I mean, he's changing the rules is what he's doing. Wembanyama is, is rewriting the old standard that you got to lose before you win. What, what Dwyane Wade was saying that you quoted earlier today. That's common thinking. There's a reason for it. But somebody has to break that. Somebody has to shatter that. Somebody has to be the first to win it all in their first opportunity. And if he does that, that's just one more reason to look at Wembanyama as just a unicorn who's going to be changing all our minds about Greatest
Tony Reali
ever was not the 37 point game that happened in January.
Greg Cody
Can you play for me another movie clip for Greg Cody, please? Let's see what we have here. We. Greg Cody's on a hot streak. He's gotten Jaws correctly. Let's see if he can get this one correct.
Jeremy Schaap
Here's the next one.
Greg Cody
Whose motorcycle is this?
Stugotz
It's a chopper, baby.
Greg Cody
Whose chopper is this?
Stugotz
Zed's.
Greg Cody
Who's Zed?
Tony Reali
Zed's dead, baby.
Stugotz
Zed's dead. Was that Travolta? Was that Travolta?
Greg Cody
It was Bruce Willis.
Stugotz
Okay, I, I mentioned earlier and, and it's verified now. Willis, not a distinctive voice. I don't know. A motorcycle movie. Hell's Angels.
Greg Cody
I don't know. Pulp Fiction. You said that was Pulp Fiction.
Valerie
Unbelievable.
Stugotz
Oh, no. See, Pulp Fiction, you got to give me a Travolta.
Chris Cote
Do you know who Zedd was in Pulp Fiction? He just said zed's dead.
Greg Cody
Now why would you, why would you remember that scene?
Stugotz
I, I remember the dancing scene. You know, the Travolta.
Greg Cody
But you said you just got Done
Tony Kornheiser
saying that you would recognize quotes from Pulp Fiction.
Stugotz
I memorized the entire script.
Mike Ryan
No, but it's.
Tony Kornheiser
It's a memorable movie.
Greg Cody
And I think. I think everyone listening to this.
Mike Ryan
I know everyone in the container recognized
Greg Cody
what that movie was.
Stugotz
Well, they go to movies. They. They recite lines from movies, which I don't do. You know, I could if I wanted to.
Tony Reali
We go to movies. Pulp Fiction came out in 1994. I was three. Jeremy hadn't been born yet.
Stugotz
That's right. Yeah, I saw the movie. It's a great film. It doesn't mean I memorize it all, you know, I mean, when I started, In Absence of Malice, you know, I saw the script.
Chris Cote
But Zed, not. Not a. Not a memorable character. Right.
Stugotz
I got a line. I memorized it. Said, though, who was Zed? Yeah. Was that. Was that Travolta?
Greg Cody
Zed's dead, baby.
Jeremy Schaap
All right, moving on. All right, you can just get that out of your brain. Let's move on.
Stugotz
It's already out.
Jeremy Schaap
Next line was never in.
Stugotz
What does Marcellus Wallace look like? To answer his question, I don't know because I don't know that movie. What does Marcellus Wallace look like? I don't know.
Greg Cody
This is staggering.
Stugotz
Who. Who would know that?
Mike Ryan
It's Pulp Fiction.
Stugotz
Again with the Pulp Fiction.
Valerie
Again with the Pulp Fiction.
Stugotz
Now you're just trying to. To brain beat me. Yeah, and you know it. Pulp Fiction.
Greg Cody
Do you know what character.
Tony Kornheiser
Do you know who the actor was
Greg Cody
who was just saying that?
Stugotz
Sam Jackson.
Valerie
Okay, there you go.
Stugotz
Okay.
Jeremy Schaap
That's one of his moves, by the way. In this game is like abbreviating. Very successful, very common.
Tony Kornheiser
Jackson put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Does anyone call Samuel Jackson Sam L. Jackson?
Stugotz
I bet. I bet his mother calls him Sam Samuel. Come on. Highfalutin.
Tony Reali
How does Samuel Jackson.
Chris Cote
I think he's close to 80. Sam Jackson.
Tony Reali
Is he Mom's still alive?
Stugotz
Yeah, she is 109. Good for her. She and I socialize. Sam Jackson's mom and I. I don't have no idea why I just said that. All right, enough with the movie game.
Jeremy Schaap
She died in 2020.
Stugotz
All right? I fail. I fail movies. Okay, you got that right.
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Dan Le Batard
Don Levatard. This is the quickest it goes. Hey, this is the quickest it goes. Stugats, everybody. This is the quickest it goes. Yeah. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
Greg Cody
The Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody. He updated dates, his countdown if you want the latest.
Tony Kornheiser
He has banned us.
Greg Cody
He has not allowed us to celebrate his catchphrases on today's show after, you
Jeremy Schaap
know, playing a little game with them, joking with him those last few. Should we give him one that we think he might get? It'll be hilarious if he doesn't. But just one that he can't.
Greg Cody
Okay, let's see, let's see. He won't miss this one.
Tony Kornheiser
Let's see what we got here. My mom always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get.
Stugotz
Everybody knows that one.
Jeremy Schaap
Oh, he can't find it.
Stugotz
Tom Hanks, right? Yep. Yeah, that was Tom Hanks. Now I gotta come up with the name of it, though. I can picture the scene. He's got a box of chocolates on a. On a park bench and there's a young lady with him and I don't remember their relationship.
Valerie
They were strangers.
Stugotz
There you go. Strangers in the night. Give me a second.
Tony Kornheiser
It was daytime.
Stugotz
Give me a second. Clearly, shrimp involved.
Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, yeah.
Stugotz
Damn it.
Jeremy Schaap
I. I've played this game so many times with him. He's gonna get there.
Stugotz
I mean, if you give me time,
Greg Cody
we'll give you time.
Tony Kornheiser
You got the rest of the show.
Stugotz
Okay, good.
Mike Ryan
In order to think of it, did
Greg Cody
that movie indeed beat Pulp Fiction this year for the Oscar?
Stugotz
It should have. No, I love that movie.
Jeremy Schaap
No, this movie that you don't know Beat Pulp Fiction.
Stugotz
Oh, oh, oh, oh. Well, Hanks, when he ranks, he's rattled. Was that real really? Him running, or was that like a.
Tony Kornheiser
It was him playing ping pong. That. Well, it was him, yes. In all of the black and white film that they superimposed him in.
Stugotz
Why can't I think of the name?
Greg Cody
This is amazing.
Tony Kornheiser
It really is.
Stugotz
I will think of it.
Tony Kornheiser
Okay, well, we'll. And we'll get very excited for you if you.
Stugotz
I promise not to look it up.
Greg Cody
Okay.
Tony Reali
Talking to the mic.
Stugotz
If you see my fingers on the keyboard, you'll know that I've betrayed your faith.
Jeremy Schaap
That is a nice on ramp to circle back to black. Chet's Chet Hanks.
Tony Kornheiser
He has no idea the joke you just made. But that's a good joke. That is the rare. That's the rarest of things, the Jeremy good joke.
Stugotz
I already said Hanks was the star of that movie.
Greg Cody
What is the name of the movie that you're thinking of?
Jeremy Schaap
You want to hear the line again? Maybe it'll refresh your drink.
Greg Cody
I think I can say flatly that this is Tom. He's got a lot of them.
Mike Ryan
But this is Tom Hanks's greatest role, right?
Greg Cody
It's not Castaway. It's not Philadelphia.
Chris Cote
Most famous role.
Stugotz
Yeah. Hanks. Yeah.
Tony Kornheiser
My mom always said life was like a box of chocolates.
Greg Cody
It's.
Tony Kornheiser
I can't believe you never know what you're gonna get.
Stugotz
I know. It's two words.
Greg Cody
That's right. Yes.
Tony Reali
It's his name.
Greg Cody
It's the name of his character in the movie.
Valerie
Yes.
Chris Cote
This is shocking.
Tony Kornheiser
It is. It is. This is. This is the most shocking one I think, that we have had so far.
Greg Cody
The Godfather was pretty bad, but this
Stugotz
is as bad as it's on the tip of my tongue.
Jeremy Schaap
Think trees.
Stugotz
Forest Gump.
Valerie
Very good job.
Stugotz
Of course. See, I knew it all along. Finally, you know, the case comes out, and I know it, and I got it.
Jeremy Schaap
I don't feel good about how I gave you that. So we're gonna play the game again, right?
Stugotz
I got that.
Greg Cody
No, I mean, not with clues.
Jeremy Schaap
This is where he goes, I get half credit. No. When we give you 14 clues, there's no credit.
Stugotz
You didn't give me a clue.
Mike Ryan
He gave you trees.
Tony Kornheiser
And that's when you got it. You said forest.
Stugotz
No, it was already on the tip of my tongue.
Jeremy Schaap
All right, here's the next one.
Dan Le Batard
You hear me talking, hillbilly boy?
Tony Kornheiser
I ain't through with you by damn sight. I'm gonna get medieval on your ass.
Stugotz
I like that. Medieval don't know the movie, but I like the line, it's fun. It's good comedy.
Chris Cote
What does that mean when he says, I'm gonna get medieval?
Stugotz
I don't know, but it's fun. I like the word medieval.
Tony Kornheiser
I'm gonna get medieval on your ass.
Stugotz
Yeah. It's open to imagination.
Greg Cody
He's been sodomized against his will. And Zed's dead and sodomized.
Stugotz
Are you talking about.
Valerie
That's what happened.
Jeremy Schaap
It's Pulp Fiction again.
Stugotz
Oh, that's quit. Enough with the Pulp Fiction references.
Tony Kornheiser
You said that you would get Pulp Fiction. You said you announced on the show that you would get Pulp Fiction.
Stugotz
Okay. A certain scene. Not that one.
Valerie
Zedd was hillbilly boy in that situation, by the way.
Stugotz
Hillbilly boy?
Valerie
Yeah, that's what he called him.
Greg Cody
I want to get back to something. It is that we did yesterday that I think Greg Cody would enjoy, that I don't think that we spent enough time with, because I kind of sped through the end of the show, and I assume that people enjoyed what we were doing yesterday. Mike Ryan came up with a top 10 list of things that we did to piss off ESPN while we were there. I came up with a top 10 list of things that we did to piss off ESPN while we were there. And the lists were pretty substantively different. So if you guys have any questions and you want to rummage around in this bin a little more, I will recap what both of those lists are, and I will tell you that when I got home, my wife said to me, your list was terrible. I've got a better one. And her list has a different 10 things. Yes. She didn't. She said that I was remembering wrong some of the things that I did and we did to bother ESPN the most.
Chris Cote
Okay, so then Mike's list, your list, Valerie's list, your. There's no way there's ever been a sports radio show then that has at least 30 notable incidents.
Jeremy Schaap
Didn't Dan Mike's have a couple?
Greg Cody
Yeah, we had a little bit of
Mike Ryan
overlap, but I don't think Valerie's has
Greg Cody
any very impressive on it. So I'm going to just give you the list here, and you guys tell
Mike Ryan
me how much redundancy there is and
Greg Cody
how much you want to, you know, ask elaborations of some of these on the list. So number 10 for Mike Ryan is Ron McGill complaints. They complained a lot about Ron McGill. They wanted his segment off of the show.
Stugotz
I would have guessed that was higher.
Greg Cody
Well, that's one of the funny things about the list. You would think that a lot of things on here would be higher because the way that it started is Mike Ryan said us upsetting Rob Manfred would have been on his list. And it is, but it's not on my list. Us upsetting the commissioner of baseball. Number nine was just in general the looks like games. Yeah, a lot of the talent. Buster Olney. We've repaired the relationship with Matthew Berry, but we said that he was a retired clown who now works in a balloon shop. And he didn't like that initially.
Jeremy Schaap
But we didn't say he was that. We said he looks that.
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Greg Cody
That is correct. Well, I think Berman.
Tony Kornheiser
I think Chris Berman was the angriest
Greg Cody
because he was a Ben Franklin. Ben Franklin wax figurine that had been left in a hot car too long on a summer day.
Stugotz
He is a sweater.
Jeremy Schaap
Why he would not like that.
Greg Cody
So number eight was just general friction with the NFL department of espn. Number seven was weei, which was totally racist against my father and wanted to deport him. Number six was me telling the mortgage sponsor after stugats had read their ad that they were a predatory lender. Number five was Mike department meeting where he embarrassed a guy who was in charge. Number four was Rob Manfred. Number three was the LeBron billboards. Number two was the violating of their politics policy with kids in cages. And also number one was me lamenting that I needed sports figures in order to do anything in the way of political stories, which led to this video right here, which will allow me to end the segment with Billy in charge as executive producer because Mike was out of town as I was violating ESPN's corporate policy. Racist, dangerous rhetoric and not calling it out makes you complicit. The send her back chant and the go back to where you came from are so antithetical to what we should be. It is so right what he is saying there. It is so wrong what the president of our country is doing, trying to go down getting reelected by dividing the masses at a time when the old white man, the old rich white man feels oppressed, being attacked by minorities.
Mike Ryan
Black people, brown people, women.
Greg Cody
That's who we're going after now.
Mike Ryan
Black people, brown people, women.
Greg Cody
And that's the like. Let's do it as the platform. That's what you're seeing and the only
Mike Ryan
way we can discuss it around here, because this isn't about politics, it's about race. What you're seeing happening around here is about race.
Greg Cody
And it's been turned into politics.
Mike Ryan
And we only talk about it around here when Steve Kerr Popovich says something. We don't talk about what is happening unless there's some sort of weak, cowardly sports angle that we can run it through. When sports has always been a place where this stuff changes. Where stuff. Wait, man. Muhammad Ali was fighting for this stuff in the 60s. The Bill Russell and Jim Brown are really old. Kareem Abdul Jabbar is old. These people who were fighting the most powerful among us in sports, who are fighting in the real. In the civil rights era for things. Atrocities happening to black people that we're still paying for now in a country where this is our greatest sin.
Stugotz
What a time.
Greg Cody
I urge you listening on audio to check out the YouTube on that because that's a visual joke. I will tell you again that the director smartly. This was an order and it was direct. Put Billy on the screen so that news organizations couldn't play that sound and show that I was violating their corporate policy. And so many news organizations had to play that video. That made no sense with the sound. My top 10 list was number 10. I did not return the call of the boss for eight months. He was calling a lot. He called Stugats and threatened him.
Mike Ryan
Number nine.
Greg Cody
I called the UFC the sewer right after they'd signed a contract with the ufc. Number eight was a bad meeting about us selling T shirts. Number seven was selling my Deadspin hall of Fame vote. Number six was Chris Cody, your son, going downstairs with me and standing behind the first take set as a battery. Number five was I was pissed off because we were growing in New York and they took us off in New York. Number four was the billboards. Number three was hiring back your son. Number two was not running a story I wrote about China and LeBron. That was one of the best things I've ever written. And number one was Billy in the penalty box.
Valerie
Don't forget the art of conversation.
Greg Cody
I did forget the art of conversation. It's on Valerie's list. You want Valerie's list here? It's different.
Jeremy Schaap
I believe they took us off New York because they put Stephen A. On.
Tony Reali
Right?
Jeremy Schaap
Wasn't that the reason?
Greg Cody
That is correct. But we were doing very well in New York. I didn't object to this taking us off in Los Angeles.
Tony Kornheiser
We were doing poorly in Los Angeles. Like, I had no problem with that, but we were crushing it in New York.
Mike Ryan
Number 10 on Valerie's list is they
Greg Cody
got really mad that I got a hippo named after me at the zoo.
Basketball Announcer
They thought it Was a liability.
Stugotz
Yeah, I remember that.
Tony Reali
What if the hippo eats somebody?
Greg Cody
That right.
Jeremy Schaap
That's more ridiculous.
Tony Reali
ESPN radio.
Tony Kornheiser
What if it escapes and harm someone? Hippos are dangerous. They kill a lot of people.
Jeremy Schaap
That'd be a Zion situation.
Tony Kornheiser
It's usually in Africa. You think it'd be good for us?
Jeremy Schaap
I think espn. Just like Dan Levitar.
Tony Reali
Whoa, whoa, Dan. Also in Colombia. Big Issue hippos in the rivers in Colombia because of Pablo Escobar.
Stugotz
Wow.
Greg Cody
That's true.
Tony Reali
He had a zoo and he let all the hippos go. And now they're in the rivers in Colombia. Now it's. Yeah, they're killing people at a very high rate.
Greg Cody
Number nine was the president of ESPN before Skipper called into our Sunday morning radio show and scared the hell out of an $8 an hour board op. Because I said, coming up next, we talk about what Bob Ryan said on the sports reporters. And he called the board op and he said, the hell you will.
Tony Kornheiser
And the argument I got into with him afterward had me asking out loud,
Mike Ryan
who the hell do you think you're talking to?
Greg Cody
Number eight. That I said right before Lance Armstrong hosted the ESPYs, that he was Barry Bonds and should be considered a cheater like Barry Bonds. Number seven is our first studio day at espn. The day before me and my brother put all of the art in over their objections. We hadn't told anybody, so we did all of this.
Tony Kornheiser
Disney famously proprietary about its cartoons, so
Greg Cody
they weren't really happy that we did that. Number six was the livestream. I cursed on
Valerie
Dunk Lebatard.
Greg Cody
Yeah, they took it away from us after that.
Tony Reali
Greg famously deterred by the lights, I think, in that situation.
Stugotz
Yeah, I remember that.
Jeremy Schaap
Yeah.
Greg Cody
Not deterred, confused.
Stugotz
Well, I was on medication at that time.
Valerie
Mike was left with the bill.
Greg Cody
Yes. Mike was on the floor on his knees saying, this night couldn't have gone any worse.
Tony Kornheiser
And then a Clevelander waitress came over and handed him the bill because we had all left. Yeah, we were already. They ended up giving that whole thing to McAfee.
Greg Cody
Like.
Tony Kornheiser
Like that. They were starting the livestream there. We fouled up our chance because I had too many drinks with McGill at dinner and I got there late.
Greg Cody
Number five is I wouldn't do live spots,
Tony Kornheiser
especially for Walmart.
Greg Cody
Number four was the art of conversation. Number three was that we had successfully negotiated a T shirt company. No one had done that. And they got really mad that someone had allowed that to happen because again, Disney proprietary about its cartoons. Number two was over those pay cuts that they asked us to, quote, unquote, volunteer for during the pandemic, even though
Tony Kornheiser
no one got bonuses when things were
Greg Cody
going well and we had to volunteer for them. It wasn't really volunteering. And I was saying, can I just give that money to our staff in Miami, a bunch of cameramen who don't speak English? And they got mad about that. And so I had to pay those
Tony Kornheiser
people for months myself.
Greg Cody
And number one was we did the Masked Singer with Billy Gill the morning
Tony Kornheiser
right after the Super Bowl.
Jeremy Schaap
That was a great one.
Date: May 19, 2026
Location: The Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
In this lively episode, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and their rotating crew serve up a spirited mix of sports commentary, pop culture banter, and classic show hijinks. The hour is anchored by a passionate, prematurely optimistic Spurs rant from Michelle Beadle, playful debates about iconic sports calls, a hilarious movie quotes quiz (and Stugotz’s reliably dubious performance in it), deep NBA playoff analysis, and a look back at the show's most notorious run-ins with ESPN management. If you love irreverence, tangents, and genuine sports debate, this episode is classic Le Batard Show chaos.
“And this is what happens when you hand an MVP award out in front of a man who very much thought he deserved the MVP award a la Hakim Olajuwon, David Robinson... Just one of the most glorious, satisfying games I’ve ever witnessed.” (02:30)
“You’re as tall as a mouse. Whenever number one shows in the town, where are you? You’re as tall as a mouse.” (04:20)
“The 26.3 to play is just a coping mechanism.” —Greg Cody (10:36) “He was defeated and he’s just like, let me give the time... because that hurt me.” —Tony Kornheiser (10:42)
“Put it on the poll... Are the Spurs Darth Vader and a stain on the league?” —Greg Cody (06:25) “You can’t be Darth Vader if you have a long spell of not being dominant.” —Stugotz (06:43) “Darth Vader with a nine-year losing streak, running the Galaxy.” —Tony Kornheiser (06:48)
“Travolta, a man of many looks, a master of disguise, some would say.” —Tony Reali (11:50) Travolta describes his homage to old-school directors: “I’m going to play the part of being a director...” (12:37)
“The two best teams in the west are led by the two best players in the league. And they’re both very young... For the next five, seven, eight years it’s going to be a two horse race...” —Stugotz (23:16) “They’re not as good as they’re going to be... The way this is supposed to go is they lose this series and figure it out next year or the year after that—this is just them starting.” —Mike Ryan (25:34)
Michelle Beadle, exhilarated by Wembanyama’s ascent:
“I have listened to former players, legends, hall of Famers, run out of words in describing Victor Wembanyama. And we are just starting this movie.” (02:44)
Stugotz on young NBA superstars:
“The two best teams in the west are led by the two best players in the league. And they’re both very young and just now coming into their prime...it’s going to be a two horse race in the NBA, not just the West.” (23:16)
Greg Cody on the iconic yet joyless OKC announcer:
“Biggest play of the season...so crushing that the announcer can’t get any emotion except for defeated despondent ‘is in there.’” (01:55)
Tony Kornheiser riffs on the Spurs as post-empire villains:
“Darth Vader with a nine-year losing streak, running the Galaxy!” (06:48)
John Travolta’s self-mythology:
“I’m going to play the part of being a director, and then when I look back, I’ll know, oh, that was [the film]. That was Cannes. I’ll have vividness of it.” (13:20)
Stugotz, resolutely not getting ‘Pulp Fiction’ trivia:
“You said that you would get Pulp Fiction. You said you announced on the show that you would get Pulp Fiction.” —Tony Kornheiser (37:45)
This episode is representative Le Batard: chaotic, deeply knowledgeable, self-mocking, and unafraid to blend passionate sports talk with comic asides, personal vendettas, and offbeat cultural observations. From the “spiritual” exuberance of Michelle Beadle to the group’s endless texturing of sports mythology and movie trivia, it’s a slice of audio comfort food for anyone tired of formulaic radio. If you like inside jokes, NBA deep dives, and a show that gleefully questions its own importance, this is an essential listen.