MUMMMM-RAAAAAAA | Hour 2

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz: “MUMMMM-RAAAAAAA | Hour 2” (June 12, 2026)

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Overview

This episode, broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, delivers the signature Le Batard and Stugotz mix: biting sports takes, playful pop culture nostalgia, irreverent tangents, and welcome unpredictability. Hour 2 is highlighted by a lively visit from Canadian personality Sid Seixeiro, World Cup fever (with a U.S. and Canadian twist), spirited debates on the “Sun Belt” Stanley Cup Final, and an epic, nostalgia-soaked debate over the greatest 1980s cartoon villains.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Canadian Sports Angst & The Stanley Cup Final

Sid Seixeiro Joins the Show

• The crew welcomes Sid Seixeiro from Toronto (02:33), perfectly timed with both the Stanley Cup Final and the World Cup underway.
• Discussion zeroes in on Toronto hockey psyche, Mitch Marner’s mercurial status, and Vegas' surprising run.

"This series has been so messed up...There’s a familiarity now with the Knights that we've seen in Toronto a lot in the Mitch Marner years...What's up with the power play? That has kind of been the deciding factor." – Sid Seixeiro (02:51)

• Sid laments Toronto's recurring playoff narrative: dazzling play offset by a vanishing power play and dicey goaltending.
• The crew riffs on how the analytics movement’s story might shift if Eric Tulsky and Carolina win.

Sun Belt Teams in the Finals

• Dan probes Canadian resentment over “non-traditional” markets (Vegas, Carolina) dominating the Stanley Cup (04:14).
• Sid is honest: the Canadian hockey psyche is bruised when the Cup is (in his words) paraded “to the elbow room and there’s like nine people there” in the Sun Belt, though he credits Vegas for their audacity and smarts.

"There is a feeling sometimes in Canada when you take the cup to the elbow room and there's like nine people there...That does make us feel a certain way." – Sid Seixeiro (04:41)

• Hilarious debate about which city holds the weakest championship parade, with Anaheim’s win called “the all-time disgrace.” (05:33)
• Owner impatience and mid-season coach firings are dissected as problematic league trends, especially if Vegas were to come back and win. (06:18)

2. World Cup Fever: “Big Game or Not a Big Game?”

Canada vs. Bosnia & Herzegovina / USA vs. Paraguay

• The segment “Big Game or Not a Big Game” (07:20) has Sid declaring the Canada opener “the biggest sporting event on Canadian soil since the Olympic hockey game from 2010 in Vancouver.”
• Genuine anxiety over supporter turnout in Toronto: rumors swirl of Bosnian fans potentially making up a majority at the stadium, with only 45,000 capacity and up to 30,000 Bosnian fans expected (10:45).

"If that building down by the lakeshore in Toronto is like 70% Bosnian for the game, I'm going to freak out. That's going to be an awful, awful look." – Sid Seixeiro (11:16)

• Canada faces setbacks: no Alphonso Davies due to injury (12:18), a fact the Canadian federation tried to hide for PR reasons.
• Zaslow and Sid also label the USMNT match versus Paraguay as a “huge game,” with optimism for the Americans’ round-of-16 chances if Christian Pulisic can deliver. (09:23)

World Cup Vibes: Canada vs. Miami

• Dan asks if the World Cup’s presence is being felt in Canada compared to muted vibes in Miami (13:01). Sid says the excitement is real but subdued outside official fan zones.

3. CFL, Relegation, and Americanization

• Dave pivots suddenly to Canadian football: could the CFL become a minor league or “relegation” tier for the NFL? (17:24)
• Sid calls this a “non-starter,” explaining Canadian football lifers are already resisting rule tweaks and would balk at giving up the league’s identity. (18:28)

"That's about as far as you can take it without losing your base. As we all know, in 2026 your base is important...I don't believe this alternate partnership with the NFL would work. It's an interesting idea, but relegation..." – Sid Seixeiro (19:08)

4. Portugal’s World Cup Hopes & Ronaldo Dilemmas

• Zaslow, part Italian, inquires about Portugal’s chances and whether Ronaldo could be a liability. Sid likes the squad—but is uneasy about “everyone else liking them too,” and again warns of the axis of Portuguese success running into Ronaldo’s immovable ego. (20:06)

"You have an ego at the front of the train that is immovable. Andre the Giant was more movable...Ronaldo's not going to go out there and run around huffing and puffing at 41 years old for 90 minutes if it's not working." – Sid Seixeiro (20:06)

• Sid compares their stacked midfield to mid-2000s Spain, yet warns Portugal is “often their own worst enemy.”

5. World Cup Fraud Watch

• On the way out, Sid tips Spanish teenager Lamine Yamal—widely hyped as the “young player of the tournament”—as a possible “fraud of the tournament” due to fitness doubts. (22:05)

"There's the fraudulent belt, and it could go to Lamine." – Sid Seixeiro (22:19)

6. ’80s Cartoon Villain Power Rankings

Cartoon Villains: Zaslow’s Top 5

• Dan, Zaslow, and crew launch into a joyous debate over the greatest cartoon villains of the 1980s, prompted by Dan’s glowing review of the new He-Man movie. (25:08–31:38)

Zaslow’s Top 5:

1. Skeletor (He-Man) — “He-Man’s arch-nemesis...Jared Leto is phenomenal as Skeletor in this movie.”
2. Mumra (Thundercats) — “Very scary...Thundercats movies, you ever see Mumra Lives?”
3. Megatron (Transformers) — “Leader of the Decepticons...becomes super Megatron.”
4. Cobra Commander (GI Joe) — “He’s literally a terrorist.”
5. Shredder (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles) — “Trying to kill teenagers...the turtles are kids!”

• The segment is full of playful incredulity, as Dave and Joe admit ignorance, especially of Mumra (“Say it again, maybe we’ll know about it!” – Dave, 30:29). Gargamel (Smurfs) is dismissed as a “poser.”
• The crew debates whether Darth Vader, technically present in ’80s cartoons, would top the list (37:26).

Memorable banter:

"Gargamel’s nemesis are little 2 inch blue people and he has a hard time defeating them. Gargamel was a poser." – Dan Le Batard (31:58)

7. Sports/Nostalgia Mashups and MMA Top 5

• Conversation turns to overlooked “Laugh Olympics” villains, the educational value of seeing cheaters win, and a loving, geeky nostalgia for obscure cartoon baddies (35:48–38:06).
• New segment: Top 5 MMA storylines for the upcoming “UFC Freedom 250 at the White House” (39:12). Over-the-top, tongue-in-cheek hyping ensues, referencing everything from Michael Chandler’s struggles to “can Captain America defend America against Mauricio Ruffie and the Brazilians?”

8. Other Notable Bits

• The final minutes veer toward weather anxiety for outdoor fights, banter about rain delays, Sleepy Joe memes, and general comedic chaos (42:03–44:38).

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Notable Quotes

• Sid Seixeiro (on “Sun Belt” Cup winners):
  “There is a feeling sometimes in Canada when you take the cup to the elbow room and there's like nine people there...That does make us feel a certain way.” (04:41)
• Dave (on Anaheim’s parade):
  “They had to bribe people to show up at Disney with, with the Governator appearance and free wieners and Coke. That's how...That was the all-time disgrace.” (05:33)
• Sid Seixeiro (on World Cup supporters):
  “If that building down by the lakeshore in Toronto is like 70% Bosnian for the game, I'm going to freak out.” (11:16)
• Dan Le Batard (defending his villain rankings):
  “Gargamel’s nemesis are little 2 inch blue people and he has a hard time defeating them. Gargamel was a poser.” (31:58)
• Sid Seixeiro (Portugal analysis):
  “You have an ego at the front of the train that is immovable. Andre the Giant was more movable than this object…and Cristiano Ronaldo…” (20:06)
• Sid Seixeiro (“fraudulent belt” call):
  “There’s the fraudulent belt, and it could go to Lamine [Yamal].” (22:19)

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Important Timestamps

• 02:33–07:20 — Sid joins, deep-dive on Toronto, Marner, Vegas, and coaching chaos
• 07:20–13:47 — “Big Game or Not a Big Game”: Canada/Bosnia, USA/Paraguay, Canadian World Cup buzz
• 17:24–19:29 — CFL/NFL “relegation” debate
• 20:06–21:53 — Portugal’s World Cup prospects and Ronaldo’s sway
• 22:05–22:19 — World Cup “fraud alert”: Lamine Yamal
• 25:08–31:38 — Dan’s He-Man movie review & Zaslow’s Top 5 1980s Cartoon Villains
• 35:48–38:06 — Laugh Olympics, villain nostalgia riffs
• 39:12–41:51 — MMA “UFC Freedom 250” Top 5, live from the White House

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Tone & Vibe

Authentic, enthusiastic, off-the-cuff and full of the playful irreverence that defines Le Batard’s show. Banter is rapid-fire, references are deep-cut, and no topic — from Canadian sports insecurities to animated villainy — is too niche for the roundtable. Sid Seixeiro fits seamlessly, blending insight with self-deprecating wit. The show fluidly pivots from high-stakes sports analysis to pure nostalgia fests, never missing a comedic beat.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode:

• You’ll get up-to-the-minute takes on Canadian/U.S. World Cup stakes, Stanley Cup Finals, and what makes “Sun Belt” hockey still irk the Canadian hockey soul.
• Sid Seixeiro brings genuine Canadian perspective and World Cup expertise, especially about Toronto’s soccer nerves and Portugal’s higher ceiling if Ronaldo can get out of the way.
• Zaslow’s Top 5 ’80s cartoon villains erupts into joyous, geek-level debate, with memorable defenses (and dismissals) of icons like Gargamel, Megatron, and Mumra.
• Plus, plenty of bonus banter about outdoor MMA events, “Sleepy Joe” memes, and more classic Le Batard Show ad-libs.

Transcript

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[Dan LeBatard]

This is the Dan Levitt. Welcome back to our show with the Stugats podcast.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

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[Dave]

Let's go, Sid.

[Sid Seixero]

Gentlemen. Gentlemen. Too kind as always. What it what a day. What a weekend we got in store here. This is gonna be something else.

[Dan LeBatard]

What is your experience because you're based out of Toronto? Sid Sid Sashero show. You can catch YouTube channel wherever you get your podcasts. Also now the Knights are a game away from being eliminated. But like, how are you handling the

[Sid Seixero]

whole Mitch Marner thing better if he loses? I'll be honest with you. Like, that's gonna be a tough one for Toronto. That's gonna be a tough one. Now this series has been so messed up. I'm not willing to throw away the Knight's chances going into Sunday night. But there is, there's a familiarity now with it, with the Knights that we've seen in Toronto a lot in the Mitch Marner years. And it's one question that was always asked at the end of a series. Here's the question. What's up with the power play? Mitch Marner power plays go quiet a little the longer the series goes. That has kind of been the deciding factor. Goaltending aside, the power play for the goal of nights has been awful and it's not getting any better. So I do find it interesting how Mitch Marner, who nearly had a four goal night last Saturday in game three, was talked about as the surefire MVP of the entire postseason. And a couple of nights later it's like, well, it has to be Jordan Stahl. Like, it's been one of those, it's been one of the better cup finals I've seen a long time. And honestly within the hockey world, what this will mean in terms of the greater analytics discussion is going to be staggering because we've been laughing at Eric Tulski in Carolina for about eight years. This will flip the script on all of that. With that said, it's been fascinating and as someone in Toronto watching Mitch Marner do that, it's been really fascinating.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dan isn't here today, but I'll, I'll ask you a point that Dan has made recently. You got Vegas and Carolina before this year. The previous six Stanley Cups were represented by either Tampa Bay or Florida. Like, is Canada as enraged about that? You know the Sunbelt teams, the non traditional market teams, are they enraged at a Stanley cup final like this one?

[Sid Seixero]

No, we're kind of used to it at this point. Listen, I think the whole league shouldn't be enraged with Vegas because they've come in and just slapped everyone in the face for the last nine years and taught people how to do it properly. Properly. To help with the picks, to help with the prospects, we're going to bring in players that can help us now no one has a right to be mad at Vegas. They've had more balls than anyone in terms of like. And I don't want to make this room unhappy with me, but there is a feeling sometimes in Canada when you take the cup to the elbow room and there's like nine people there that does make us feel a certain way. I don't mean that as a, as a diss. A Miami shot. I'm just saying as self conscious hockey folk that makes us feel a certain way.

[Dan LeBatard]

How do we feel about what Sid just said, guys? How do we. Are we.

[Joe]

I mean, as somebody who got hammered at the elbow room the day after the last championship, I guarantee you there were dozens of people there, not nine.

[Dave]

The most offensive one by far. Whatever happened in south beach is not comparable to when Anaheim won it. Everybody for every major championship turns out in droves, hundreds of thousands of people. Except when the Anaheim Ducks won the Stanley cup. They had to bribe people to show up at Disney with, with the Governator appearance and free wieners and Coke. That's how. Not Coca Cola. Coca Cola. To be clear, that's how they got. Still not very many people turned out. That was the all time disgrace. But Sid, it's better for Carolina, for the NHL in terms of credibility of regular season and otherwise. It's a bad look if Tortorello shows up on the eve of the playoffs and the Knights end up winning the Stanley Cup.

[Sid Seixero]

No, it's. I think it's bad for like every head coach in the league. I think it's a terrible look because right now in the NHL, what do you do if you're in a bind? Just fire the guy with 8 games left or 5 games left. Like that's. Look, and, and I know there's a lot going on right now. This Mike Babcock story in Edmonton, in terms of what happened in Columbus a few years ago, it's been a circus with the coaches. Vegas won't let Bruce Cassidy interview with the Oilers or anyone else. They have them on a non compete. It has been the Wild West. I will say this if I don't think Vegas are going to pull this out the way the goaltending is now going in Carolina's favor. But if Vegas come back and win. Yeah, ownership will take notice. All 31 other teams around the NHL will go. That seemed to work. So listen, we had two coaches get fired like with games ago. Last year was Patrick Waugh and Bruce Guest, Patrick 1, Long Island. So yeah, if I'm a coach, I don't like this at all. If I'm an owner, I like that I could pull that lever and potentially get a couple rounds out of it in the postseason.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sid, you're going to help us out here. We are. We're all into the World Cup. Some of us know a whole lot more than. Than others do about the World Cup. It started yesterday. We have a couple of games today. So, Sid, you are going to help us with today's edition of Big Game or not a big Game. Howdy, folks. Welcome to Big Game or Not a Big Game with Jonathan Zaslow. Oh, yes. All right, everybody calm down. Big game or not a big game. World cup today, 3pm Eastern Time. This afternoon, Canada versus Bosnia. How do I say the other country, Mike?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, they got to play two of them. Yeah, about that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Herzegovina, Sid. Canada versus Bosnia Herzegovina. Big game, but not a big game.

[Sid Seixero]

Sorry, I hadn't heard the opening yet. I need a moment on the opening. Well played. Big game. How is it not a big game? Are we not a co host like my brethren down in Miami? We are technically a co host. A try host, if you will. This is the biggest sporting event on Canadian soil since the Olympic hockey game from 2010 in Vancouver. So of course it's a big game. We should. And because we're beating two countries, we should go 20 if we win this thing tonight.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

All right?

[Sid Seixero]

No question about it.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right.

[Sid Seixero]

I'm offended by the questions.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, take it easy.

[Sid Seixero]

By the questions.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, Take it easy. Settle down. All right. Big in and out of a game. 9pm Eastern Time tonight live, not from Sofi Stadium, Los Angeles Stadium. All right, Los Angeles Stadium. Tonight, the United States of America against Paraguay. Citzen, Cheryl, big game. And Abby game.

[Sid Seixero]

First off, the naming of these stadiums, just like Toronto Stadium up here and LA Stadium, it's like the early video games where they had no rights and you just kind of name things. Things be better. FIFA, find a sponsor. Huge game at SOFI slash Los Angeles Stadium tonight. Huge game. I. I'm stunned. I don't want to say this. I am very surprised how good Mauricio Pochettino's teams looked in those final friendlies going into this tournament. I know the Germany game wasn't a win, but there was some skill on display. And if Christian Pulisic can wake up and continue at this pace, which he did not do, which cost AC Milan a Champions League spot this year in Italy, I think the States have round of 16 written all over them. It's not the toughest group. Big game. And I'M fascinated. Tonight two big games.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, how about that? Two for two in big games for the World cup today.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, let's revisit that first big game, Canada. I'm a lot of expectation last World cup and a lot of big talk. They try to play teams, they try to hang with them, take the fight to them and it didn't exactly work out. Lot, lot of expectation now that they are a try host. This is a sneaky tough opponent. I know. I'm part Italian. What are you expecting from tonight?

[Sid Seixero]

Well, the thing that has my anxiety running right now is a story that broke this week from the Bosnia and Herzegovina consulate in Ottawa and they are claiming now again, the Toronto Stadium is I believe the smallest of all 16 venues in the World cup with like 45,000 and they to bring in like a lot of fake stands for that they are claiming in Bosnia. There's going to be 30,000 Bosnian supporters of this game today. Wow.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Isn't capacity. Capacity is under 50k there.

[Sid Seixero]

45,000 how like it's got some people nervous here now. I don't know. Now listen, you guys see the secondary prices the way we see them, it's insane. And that crowd in Guadalajara last night for for South Korea, Czechia was not good at all. So like this could be an early storyline on multiple fronts. Again, I'm going to try and stay positive on this. If that building down by the lakeshore in Toronto is like 70% Bosnian for the game, I'm going to freak out. That's going to be an awful, awful look in terms of the game itself, there's no Alfonso Davies. We did an interview with Alfonso Davies at Bayern Munich a few weeks ago. He told us flat out he was never playing in this game. We ran a clip of the interview last Tuesday after two hours online. They some folks behind the scenes asked us to take it down because Canada Soccer was freaking out at the messaging that badly. They did not want it out this early that Alfonso Davies was not playing in this game despite the fact he hasn't played 90 minutes for Bayern Munich since January. So the injury situation with Canada has been concerning. With that said, I don't think Bosnia are world beaters. They got some decent guys. There's no game breakers. Their best player might be their left back from Benny Fika Mardetich. I think Canada can get their first point in tournament history today. A win would be amazing. Again, Canada's not the toughest group either, but there are some sub storylines to this.

[Dan LeBatard]

What about Hertz Gavin?

[Sid Seixero]

Similar scouting report Zaz, similar scouting report. Yeah, it's not. No game breakers. We'll see. We'll see how they play against both teams tonight. Yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right. It's important question. How is Canada? Like, I feel like it's a little bit muted down here, the World cup and that. Like the games are about to be here in Miami Gardens. Like, I don't know. It doesn't feel like it to me. Like there's going to be games here 10 minutes from my house.

[Dave]

It.

[Dan LeBatard]

How does it feel up there in Canada? Like, does it feel like the World cup is happening?

[Sid Seixero]

I'm glad you said that because had I not been downtown, we recorded a pod downtown yesterday with Michelo Ultra around the fan fest. So obviously around the fan fest there's a feeling like you'd be. You'd be hard pressed to kind of get that same feeling around town here. It's a. It's a strange vibe. It's an exciting vibe. Like today, everyone's excited, but it's not like the signage is overwhelming you coming into the city.

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[Dave]

Well, I'm hard to take. I feel bad taking a hard right turn here, but I am curious. We were watching here at the house, me and Jean Claude Van Damaschek last night were watching a little Hamilton Tiger Cats, van the Blue Bombers from Winnipeg. And once again, the boy just discovered it. We, he was watching, he said is the field is bigger. And we were, you know, going into some detail about the differentiation and the rules and, and, and it led to where it always does for American football fans. How can we, without offending you, make the CFL a part of the NFL. And what it ultimately leads to is a minor league. But if you guys would be willing to change your field, imagine, I know it's a, it's a slap in the face given the history of the C, but imagine if we could create an environment in which we had relegation where the 32nd NFL team was dropped to the CFL and the best CFL team jumped up into the NFL. Wouldn't that be better for everyone involved? We can do some UFL if that'll make everybody happy as well. Wouldn't that make pro football even more satisfying in North America?

[Sid Seixero]

That's quite a turn. I wasn't expecting the CFL question there. That is quite a turn. I like the CFL question. I'll say this. That's a non starter. Here's why it's a non starter. Stu Johnston is a guy who just became commissioner of the Canadian Football League. He made some rule changes that you guys might be familiar with. He moved the, the field goal posts to the back of the end zone. It's been at the front of the end zone for my entire lifetime. He moved into the back. Hardcore CFL fans didn't like that. He's making the field narrower. Hardcore CFL fans didn't like that. They're going to 100 yards. It's been 110 yards my whole life.

[Dave]

We're on the way. I like this commission.

[Sid Seixero]

Guess who didn't like that? Hardcore CFL fans. That is about as far as you can take it without losing your base. As we all know, in 2026, your base is important. And I, I don't, I don't believe this. This alternate partnership with the NFL would work. But I, but I. It's an interesting idea, but relegation, that's

[Dave]

to me, that's, that's the brass ring for all of North American sports leagues. That's what we need to steal from. From across Dave.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I actually have A working theory that we may actually see it in college football if they get this super League, and that's a cool way to make the regular season matter. Sid, I have a question. Back to soccer. I know you always got an eye on the Portuguese national team. I like their chances this year. I think Vitinha is one of the best players in the world. He doesn't score all the goals, but if you watch a game, you know the game, you know this guy's a dynamite player. I'm a little worried about Ronaldo messing things up for them. Do you agree with me that you like their chances to win this World Cup?

[Sid Seixero]

I'd like them better if everyone else didn't like them as much like I. It makes me nervous how much they're being talked up. Like, they're being talked up. Like the way Nigeria was being Talked up in 1994 in that world cup when Pele said, well, Nigeria are going to win the first African World Cup. Now, in terms of what you said about the PSG guys, Vitinia and Joel Nev and Nuno mended like there's really two nations in this tournament that have players that have won two straight champions leagues. It's France and it's Portugal. I like that. As someone who follows the Portuguese national team, I'm a fan of that. The problem is you have an ego at the front of the train that is immovable. Andre the Giant was more movable than this object at the front of Portugal's spear. And Cristiano Ronaldo, the ego is unlike anything we've ever seen. It's crazy. Now he's 41. We've been told through the media, look, what's good for the team is what will be done. Ronaldo's not going to go out there and run around huffing and puffing at 41 years old for 90 minutes if it's not working. That's what we've been told in this tournament, that. We were told that two years ago on the Euros, four years ago in Qatar. They tried to sit them in Qatar. It didn't work out there either. Like, Portugal, for some reason have tripped themselves up often when on paper, they've looked like the better team. I'm just trying to figure out how they lost to Morocco four years ago in the quarterfinals. I don't know how that happened, but on paper, this. This seems like it's the group, I think, in the central midfield, they. They have a Spain vibe. Back in the day of Xavi and Iniesta. They're not that level. But they're pretty good and I like their chances. But again this, they've been their own worst enemy at times. And we'll see.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sid's gonna give you plenty of World cup coverage. Sid seshero show on YouTube and wherever you get your podcast. Great job, Sid. Thanks for hanging out.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Sid, on the way out you got your eyes on a potential fraud.

[Sid Seixero]

Oh, there's some fraudulent behavior that might go on in this tournament for sure. I'll give you how about this? I think Lamine Yamal could be the fraud of the tournament.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Most people's young of the tournament, an

[Sid Seixero]

incredible player, but he's banged up. He didn't finish the season of Barcelona. Now Barcelona had nothing to play for. But I'm just saying I am a huge lamina guy. There's the fraudulent belt is on the table and it could go to Lamin.

[Dan LeBatard]

Great job. Thanks, Sid. Appreciate it man.

[Sid Seixero]

Take care guys.

[Dan LeBatard]

We got the hockey returning to Sunday night. Excuse me. Sunday night game six Vegas and Carolina. Roy hockey watch along.

[David Dwark]

Yeah, we got a hockey watch along on Sunday for game six the hockey show. Myself, David Dwark, Rosie and Ethan will be doing a watch along and possibly we'll see Carolina lift the Stanley cup on Sunday night. You can watch it on the LeVitage Show YouTube page or the Hockey Show DLS.

[Dan LeBatard]

I like the commercial they showed last night because you know, game six, obviously the cup could be won in a game six and it was like, well, we'll see you Sunday, you know, and it was a picture of the cup because the Stanley Cup's going to be in the building on set on, on Sunday night. Do you think the New York Knicks, like the Knicks fan wants the Knicks to win tomorrow? Right? Like, okay, you, you love the idea. In a perfect world, you win the NBA finals at home. But I feel like the Knicks kind of got their championship celebration two nights ago. Like they could win if they win the championship in a Game 6 at the Garden, they blow out the Spurs. The celebratory feeling would be muted compared to what happened a few nights ago. Right, Dave? Like they got the big championship in person moments. So they got it already. So you cut. You have to root for them to win tomorrow on the road if you're a Knicks fan. Right?

[Dave]

I think you just said it. In fact, it's funny because when you were talking about the Canes fans, as the final moments ticked off down there in, in Carolina last night, the fans sort seized the moment. The, the, the standing ovation and all of that felt like next time we see you guys, you're going to have a cup to, to hold up over your heads and go get them in Vegas was the vibe there. And if you're smart, if you're a Knickerbockers fan, not that you can actually influence, I don't think, by rooting for it from your couch, that is the result you obviously want to get. You do not want to mess around with the sports gods and root for your team to lose so you can attend the, the celebration. That's, that's, that's bad form and that's fraught with, with curses and such.

[Dan LeBatard]

Guys, I told you, I'm going to see Disclosure Day this afternoon and specifically before Team usa. Are you worried about Disclosure Day? It's not a documentary, Tony.

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[Dan LeBatard]

So I'm going to see Disclosure Day this afternoon. But let me tell you something. A couple of days ago, I saw the new he man movie. Oh my God.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You've mentioned that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh my God. I think it's the greatest cartoon to movie adaptation ever. I was so worried. I was a huge he man fan. Of course. I'm a kid of the 80s, all right. I was a huge he man fan. I had all the toys. And 40 years ago, 39 to be exact. 40 years ago, Masters of the Universe starring Dolph Lundgren came out in theaters. I saw. I had the flu. I was 6 years old and I had the flu. Didn't matter. I told my dad, we're going to see Master of the Universe. I won't cough on you, I promise. And we went to go see Masses of the Universe because I love he man. And 40 years later, this movie's out. And I told my son, I'm going to take him. He's 14 years old. He doesn't have a clue about Heman. He knows nothing. I'm like, you're coming with me. Okay? I took him and my, my 20 year old cousin is staying with us also this week. He don't know shit about he man either. He's Canadian. I don't even know if they have TV there. So I take him and my son, we go see He Man a couple of days ago. And I was worried about this movie because you look at the trailer, I'm like, trailer? I don't know, it looks corny, you know, I don't, I don't know if this movie is gonna be any good. I'm Worried. I'm worried about this movie. And I see the Rotten Tomatoes scores and. And I had friends texting me a few days ago, have you seen he man yet? And I'm like, no, no, I'm going to. You're gonna love it. And the Rotten Tomatoes scores are very high. The reviews are very, very good. And if I could tell you how much I loved this movie, it is so, so good. If you're a child of the 80s like me, if you loved he man, who was my absolute favorite, you're going to love this movie. And dare I say.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What is this, an ad?

[Dan LeBatard]

Dare I say Jared Leto, who's a terrible actor, does terrible films. He's awful.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Jared Leto give awards to terrible ag.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's terrible.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm with you, though. Lately.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jared Leto cold streak is phenomenal as Skeletor. Incredible. He nails it. He's great as Skeletor. Anyway, I love this movie so much. Everything you want, it has. And it got me thinking. All right, I got a top five free asses today.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You read this for my ass.

[Dan LeBatard]

Top five. Yes. Today I got a top five. It is top five all time 80s cartoon villain.

[Dave]

How are they all time if it's just all time?

[Dan LeBatard]

Top five all time 80s cartoon villains. You ready?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So ready, Zaz.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, Oli, we're getting right after it.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

We're workshopping back here a theory that you talk like that because you've hosted shows by yourself for so long that you have stretch like this is just another person.

[Dan LeBatard]

I ask a question, and then I

[Jonathan Zaslow]

answer it with this voice.

[Dan LeBatard]

Good point. Number five, Shredder.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Now you know who did the voice, Shredder.

[Dan LeBatard]

Who?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Uncle Phil.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, really? That's cool. All right. Love Uncle Phil. Shredder, the big bad from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I mean, he's trying to kill. Not only trying to kill the turtles, the turtles are kids. Like they're teenagers. They're teenage. He's trying to kill teenagers. Very bad. Number five is Shredder. Number four, Cobra Commander. Oh, yeah. GI Joe's number one. He's a terrorist. That's literally the character. He's a terrorist. Obviously, Cobra Commander is going to be one of the top villains, but he only comes in at number four. He's very bad, though. Terrorism. Number three, Megatron. Transformers. Come on. Autobots, Decepticons. Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons. And eventually he. He. He gets even more powers and he becomes like super Megatron. You don't want to f with that guy. Number two.

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[Dan LeBatard]

Oh yeah.

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So then why did they call Calvin Johnson Megatron instead of Optimus Prime? Who is the.

[Dan LeBatard]

He named himself that? Yeah, I mean he thought he was a bad guy. I don't know what to tell you, man. What do you ask him?

[Dave]

Megatron's a plane. He's a fighter jet.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Dave]

His arch nemesis, Optimus prime is just an 18 wheeler.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's right. Yeah, that's right.

[Dave]

Seems unfair.

[Dan LeBatard]

Number two, Mumra. You know what Mumra? Thundercats. Mumra was very scary. And they had. They had movies. You ever seen Mumra Lives?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Dave Damon Shack, you know about that Mumra?

[Dave]

No, I have never literally heard of Mum.

[Dan LeBatard]

What? What?

[Joe]

I've only heard of Shredder.

[Dan LeBatard]

Mumra coming in at number two.

[Dave]

Say it again, then we'll know about it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Mom.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Thunder. Thunder. Thunder Cats.

[Dan LeBatard]

Mamra. And number one. Number one. Number one, Skeletor. Of course Skeletor is number one. I mean, He Man's arch nemesis who is actually, I think it's He Man's uncle. All right, because you know, he died. He was part of the kingdom, became Skeletor. Skeletor number one. I told you, Jared Leto was an incredible Skeletor. Skeletor's great in the movie. Excellent battles. The action scenes are fantastic in this he man movie. I love the guy that played he man as he's a great He Man. That's my He Man.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

All right, I need more lists from you. Was there any Oli. Where's Dr. Claw?

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I told. Nah. Dr. The Spectre. Gadget was hokey. Dr. Got scared of Dr. Hokey. You're not scared of.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He was a mumra.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're not scared. That's right. So again to recap, number five, Shredder, number four, Cobra Commander, number three, Megatron, number two, Mumra, and number one, Skeletor.

[Dave]

I'm a fan, Zaz. I want to make that clear in advance. But, but, but this is a little bit of a hipster list here, right? I mean, Mumra, mumra number two, you don't make. You're talking 80s animated bad guys, Thundercats and you. Oh, don't mention. You don't mention Gargamel. You don't mention.

[Dan LeBatard]

No one was afraid of Gargamel. Gargamel's nemesis are little 2 inch blue people and he has a hard time defeating them. Gargamel was a poser.

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[Dan LeBatard]

Don LeBatard John, can you rate my Al Pacino from that billiard scene in Carlito's Way if I do it for you? I think it's pretty good.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

You think you're big time when you're gonna die big time.

[Dave]

That is on my infamous scale of 1 to 10. That's a. That's a 7.6 solid.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's a suey nominee right there.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Dave]

Well, listen, I mean if you really want to get going here and and. And get into bad guy in. In Rudolph the red Nosed Reindeer. But also what about the Laugh Olympics and the fact that you had the. The. The. The three way competition. You had Scooby's gang and then you had Yogi's gang and Captain Caveman and all the heroes. But then the. The villain. Remember the Laugh Olympics? Everybody with me on this or is that predate everybody in that?

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

I love the Laugh Olympics because they used to air them during summer vacation early afternoon on Cartoon Network. And it was a all star who's who.

[Dave]

That's exactly what it was. It was a blend of everybody you knew. Yeah. Even Hawkman was there with Dino Mud. Everybody. Every man. Genie made it.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Everybody was Hanna Barbera Universe.

[David Dwark]

Penelope.

[Dave]

Pit stop was remarkable was that the bad guys would win sometimes that you never.

[Dan LeBatard]

You don't.

[Dave]

You still don't see that anymore.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

But they would cheat to win too these gang.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Snidely Whiplash.

[Dave]

It was a powerful lesson for a young person.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, is that. No. Is Snidely Whiplash. That's a bad guy from Rocky and Bull. Uncle Dudley Do Right. Yeah. The adventures. So who is Mutley? Was. Belonged to who?

[Dave]

Dastardly. Dalton.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I think Dick Dastard. Was that his name was Dick Dastardly. Yeah, it was Dick Dastardly Uncle Dick.

[Sid Seixero]

Wow.

[Dave]

That was a show. But listen, what was it? Mumra, Thundercats.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dave Thundercats.

[Dave]

I didn't. I. I missed Thundercats. I. I tuned out on that. And also, listen, can we just cut to the chase? The greatest villain of them all in movie, animated or otherwise, is Darth Vader. Can we. Can we. Can we all.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, but that's all we did. We did all time. 1980s cartoon villain. That's what.

[Dave]

Okay, well, Darth vader appears in 1980s movies and.

[Dan LeBatard]

And cartoons.

[Dave]

Animated version of it.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, they did.

[Dave]

They absolutely turned it into a cartoon invader Is. Is would laugh at Mumra, would laugh at him. He would scoff at the challenge.

[Dan LeBatard]

Look, I'm not going to sit here and try and defend Mumra to you, all right? Like, I'm just not a bit like a. I'm not a fan. I don't. I don't root for the villains, so I'm not gonna sit here and try and prop up Mumro to you. I'm just telling you he was the second greatest villain all time in the 1980s. I don't know what that sounds.

[Sid Seixero]

That's Mutley.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh,

[Jonathan Zaslow]

by the way, a bit of

[David Dwark]

a correction on the promo we just did for the hockey show. Watch along. It's only going to going to be on the hockey show. You YouTube page. The Hockey Show DLS. Because on the Levitar YouTube page will be MMA Hangout.

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

Ready tailgating?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. All right, let's do it, man.

[Dave]

Go away,

[Dan LeBatard]

Windy.

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

You know, this is going to be really unfortunate for those of us that believe we control the weather.

[Dave]

Number five, Mamra.

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

All right.

[David Dwark]

Means pictures right there.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Maybe.

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Maybe a means pictures made it. Finally. Can Josh Hokutt remember that name? Is the middle fingers at the UFC Miami fight.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He can't be allowed to speak at the Lincoln Memorial, right? Tell Me. We're not letting him do the way in thing. He's not.

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He spoke at the press conference earlier. Excuse me, last year month. But he will not be speaking later on.

[Dan LeBatard]

So that guy's a big winner then. I mean, because he was acting wild at the UFC Miami event and now he's on the White House.

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

But they realize what about maybe keep him away from the monument?

[Dave]

What about the robots that used to play the Harlem Globetrotters in the Animated series?

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Now we don't care about those.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

As you know about that Hordak.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, I know if those guys went up head to head with Mumra, I know who's coming out on top.

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

Safe to say this is the first you know who is scary. The bmf.

[Dave]

You know, scary.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Go ahead, Dave.

[Dave]

The cobra. The cobra that, that fought against. It was like a family of cobras maybe, but I think there was one particular cobra against Ricky Tikki Tavi. Remember that?

[Dan LeBatard]

I know you were talking about like, like the, the cobra, like the scepter that Cobra Commander used to kill Duke in GI Joe. That's the cobra I thought you were

[Dave]

talking about like you killed him, not the Cobra Commander.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Actually I had the same exact question that they've had.

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[Dave]

Number one.

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[Dan LeBatard]

It's usually they do like good job selling it.

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UFC 320, whatever. Which is the next one? Conor McGregor International Fight Week 329. But this one's like UFC Freedom 250 because it's like kind of a.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sure.

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Play on the.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Sure. Happy birthday. Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Isn't there a chance, like, it's gonna be incredibly humid. They're out outdoors fighting rains, bugs, and there's be lots of lights coming down.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Lights.

[Sid Seixero]

Yeah.

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[Sid Seixero]

Oh, take that back.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, but there's gonna be a canopy over the ring. Like.

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No, it's a claw. It's a claw. It's not a canopy.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, I'm hoping for rain.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, you know, I'm hoping for rain then. I think that could be fun.

[David Dwark]

Absolutely.

[Shopify Advertiser]

You think it'd be fun?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah. Yeah, we think it'd be fun.

[Dan LeBatard]

I've never seen it.

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T shirt contest.

[Dan LeBatard]

You think that's what it's gonna be? It'd be a barrel.

[Dave]

Laughs are going to be out there

[Dan LeBatard]

fighting in the rain.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I want this to happen.

[Shopify Advertiser]

You want. You want the cobra that Dave's talking about to be out there in the rain?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I want a rain delay during a us.

[Shopify Advertiser]

No, I don't want a rain delay.

[Sid Seixero]

I don't want this thing to happen.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's too bad happening.

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There's the clock.

[Joe]

I wonder what their rain day pro programming will be.

[Shopify Advertiser]

Well said. I don't know. But here's the thing. If the rain sideways usually does, you know, then it could be an issue if it rains from just top to bottom.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

If it rains, we'll just go inside and do this thing in the oval.

[Dave]

Come on.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's why we need the ball.

[Dave]

Can he stay awake? Can he stay awake?

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That doesn't matter.

[Dave]

Dropping down on him.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

To answer your question, absolutely not. He has proven this time and time again.

[Joe]

Rain delays.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Kind of crazy for a guy that still calls him Sleepy Joe, that he just sleeps all the time and they. They just lie about it. They just say, no, he's not sleeping. What do you mean? I'm watching him. He is very clearly falling asleep. No, it's still Sleepy Joe.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jim Dolan said he was not asleep. He's just looking down at his nose.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, I do think sometimes he's looking down, but he's falling asleep. He often when I look down, he is falling asleep.

[Joe]

You look down, all of a sudden

[Dan LeBatard]

you're like, oh, this is comfortable and

[Jonathan Zaslow]

all right, here we go. Tangent time. Yeah, like they're worth it. Find the liberal that said no, Joe Biden's got it together. They keep doing this thing. They kept lying to us. Guys, Joe Biden didn't run again because everyone kind of realized that this guy is falling asleep every day.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm not.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's not a lie. Every day there is a new video, provided he's actually meeting with somebody. Or at Walter Reed.

[Dave]

We'll see.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He is falling asleep every frickin day.

[Dan LeBatard]

Why don't they let him sleep in so he could, like, be less tired when he wakes up?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's a joke. You know we're at war. I know he's.

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No, we're not at war.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, I know.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I know he's. No, he's declared victory 39 times. And we got to see. Hey. He's conveniently sending JD to Europe to make sure that JD is not there to either bleep a couch or ruin the vibes.

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